Carlson Launches Right’s Answer to HuffPost

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Thursday, January 07, 2010 at 6:00 am
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The offices of The Daily Caller evoke a long-ago era of journalism, circa 2005 or 2006, before the Los Angeles Times closed its big-city bureaus, The Washington Times fired 60 percent of its staff, and magazines from Gourmet to Portfolio shuttered for lack of revenue. A staff of 21 reporters and editors sit in blindingly white offices and a wide-open center space, cranking out content for the site’s January 11 launch. Other possible hires walk in and out of Editor-in-Chief Tucker Carlson’s office, past a lounge inhabited by liquor bottles and a sleeping dog, and decorated by clocks that tell the time in far-flung and random locations: Pyongyang, Jackson Hole, Washington, Honolulu.

“I just thought it was funny,” said Carlson, chewing on a piece of Nicorette. (He quit smoking last year, on his 40th birthday.) “We dispatched some intern to go and get those signs made. Actually, it was $150 — I never would have done it if I’d thought it would be so expensive. But something about it amused me. They’re on velcro. We swap ‘em out — we’ve got a whole drawer full of ‘em.”

[GOP1]Last February, Carlson — the conservative former host or co-host of shows on CNN and MSNBC, and still a Fox News contributor — gave a speech to the annual Conservative Political Action Conference in which he urged activists on the right to “copy” the journalistic model of The New York Times. “They need to get out, find out what’s going on, and not just analyze things based on what the mainstream media has reported,” Carlson said. He was roundly booed. Four months later he officially announced plans to launch a news site “along the lines of The Huffington Post” with an ideology “not in sync with the current program.” When he talked with TWI on Wednesday, Carlson suggested that the desire for news like that, and the potential to break big stories, was greater than ever.

“When was the last time you saw, on television, a straight explanation of what’s in the competing House and Senate health care bills?” Carlson asked. “What’s in them? People want to know that!”

In the time between that announcement and next week’s debut, Carlson and his partner Neil Patel — a former aide to Dick Cheney — raised money, scouted out staff (“we didn’t ask about ideology,” said Carlson) and held poker games at their original, grimier office in Washington’s Dupont Circle. A June launch date was pushed into autumn, and then pushed back again. The reason, explained Patel, was that “our aspirations kept growing.”

“The size of the staff is much bigger than we started with,” Patel said. “We were very lucky to get the amount of money we did based, basically, on a PowerPoint.”

As they convinced funders and advertisers that the online journalism model was viable — “two years ago, who would have thought that The Huffington Post would get more traffic than The Washington Post?” — they expanded the scale of the enterprise. When they go live, it will be with more than $3 million in start-up capital, enough to run the site for at least a year.

That site will bear as much of a resemblance to The Huffington Post — the juggernaut that now clocks around 17 million hits per month — as Carlson speculated that it would back last summer. According to Carlson, there will be at least one editor monitoring and posting stories “24 hours a day, around the clock, in the office.” The top story of the moment will run at the top of the page, with more content running beside it. Stories written by the magazine’s reporting team, which includes Washington Times veteran Jon Ward and Government Executive’s Gautham Nagesh, will be cycled in, marked as “DC Exclusives,” much the way that stories by Huffington Post reporters trade space with headlines that link to stories from other publications. A staff blog — possible names include “Caller ID” and “The Daily Trawler” — will indulge in more humor, some of it written by long-time conservative blogger Jim Treacher (real name Sean Medlock) who moved to Washington from Indianapolis after Carlson gave him a call. And an iPhone app is on the way.

“Tucker is one of the most talented journalists I know,” said Ana Marie Cox, a host and reporter for Air America Radio who spars with Carlson in online chats hosted by The Washington Post. “Given free rein, he’ll definitely produce something interesting, compelling, and conversation-starting. Whether that thing can wind up being a financial success, I have no idea. If I could answer such questions I would not be a journalist.”

Carlson and his staff are spending the final hours before the launch polishing off content that can break out of the gate — exclusive interviews, lists like the Top 15 Most Wasteful Stimulus Projects, and short features from think tankers and established politicos. Arianna Huffington will have one of the first pieces on the site. Carlson, who started his career as a magazine writer, is working on an investigative piece for later. When Carlson talked to TWI on Wednesday, he had a wallet full of business cards handed to him by excited political candidates, Tea Party activists and PR flacks who’d heard him speak at Grover Norquist’s weekly meetings of the conservative movement. It was the first time, said Carlson, that he’d ever gone to the meeting. He wanted as much news, and as many stories, as possible. Whether they came from ax-grinding researchers or established reporters didn’t much matter.

“If there’s a story whose facts are verifiable, and it generates interest, and it comes from Satan himself, I will take it and I will pay him a reporting fee,” Carlson said. “But if we take a piece from Satan, that does not mean we’re on board with Satan’s agenda. It just means that the provenance of the piece, the origins of the piece, is not the most important thing. People don’t give you stuff because they love journalists. They give you that stuff because they’re pushing an agenda.”

The New York Times-style investigative journalism that Carlson has told conservatives to cultivate will not largely come, as the Times’s investigations come, from inside the organization. The Daily Caller is taking one page from Andrew Breitbart, whose biggest story — a multi-city hidden-camera investigation of ACORN — came from two freelancing conservative conservative activists. The Daily Caller’s investigative pieces will come from outside; some will develop in-house, but most are being sought out from the ever-expanding population of journalists who need work. “Our view,” said Carlson, “is that there are enough seasoned freelance journalists out there that you can let them do it.”

Veterans of other new media start-ups are sold on what they’ve heard about the “HuffPo of the Right.” Conor Friedersdorf, a freelance journalist who worked for the short-lived site Culture11, contrasted Carlson’s focus on journalism with the much-praised, quick-hitting tactics of Breitbart’s Big Hollywood, Big Government, and Big Journalism.

“I hope that The Daily Caller aspires to produce writing that is as well written and professionally edited as the stuff that the talented Tucker Carlson writes for Esquire,” said Friedersdorf. “The alternative — the Andrew Breitbart model — is to publish poorly reasoned, atrociously edited screeds on the cheap, on the assumption that ideologically friendly readers will keep clicking anyway.”

Carlson’s full-time staff, still taking shape this week (Helen Rittelmeyer, slated to be a reporter, left Monday for a job at National Review), is skewed toward younger reporters who had, in his view, the “energy and temperament” for the job. They don’t have hard quotas for blog posts, articles, or pageviews. They seemed ready to work hard without that.

“I keep reading all of these Nick Denton memos for Gawker,” said Carlson, “these ferocious memos to writers where it’s like ‘get a million pageviews this week or you’re fired!’ Maybe we’ll have to do that! But it’s not my personality at all.”

Whenever he’s asked, Carlson will happily admit the lofty goals he’s set for the site. It’s got to fill the gap that the “pathetic” media has left in coverage of how government works. It’s got to generate buzz and drive the conversation, getting stories that other media have to chase and topping a million page-views a month, “although one word I’ll never use is ‘metric.’” It’s got to be fun. That’s the point of the foreign clocks and the random posters Carlson has placed around the office. But there’s the occasional strange found object that makes a greater point, like the photo of a joyful Korean businessman perched on top of his store during the L.A. riots, holding a rifle.

“Because he’s taken the time to defend himself with a firearm,” explained Carlson, “he’s not going to be victimized by the racist mobs below. He is smiling. That’s a smile that reflects both his self-satisfaction and also the promise of America. The promise of America is ‘We’ll let you do what you want, as long as you defend yourself.’ I just love that. I’ve had that over every desk I’ve ever had as an adult.”

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CestWhat
Comment posted January 7, 2010 @ 10:17 am

Considering Ana Marie Cox doesn't exactly have the Midas touch…

But it's not just that I don't want to look at Tucker Carlson's website, I actually really want it to fail.


CestWhat
Comment posted January 7, 2010 @ 11:14 am

Just wondering… Was this “execlusive” Tucker Carlson and crew's way of trying to lure David Weigel away from the Washington Independent (TWI realize you've got a value poster and DW, PLEASE don't work for Tucker Carlson)


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EricBlair
Comment posted January 7, 2010 @ 11:46 am

And he can write just as well as he can dance!


strangely_enough
Comment posted January 7, 2010 @ 11:47 am

Considering how much of HuffPo's “content” is now tabloidy BS, can we expect tons of Drudgey crap from Carlson's carny sideshow?


Herrence Meritocracy
Comment posted January 7, 2010 @ 1:17 pm

“decorated by clocks that tell the time in far-flung and random locations: Pyongyang, Jackson Hole, Washington, Honolulu.”

Evidence that as the HuffPo aims to serve the limousine liberal crowd, the Daily Caller aims to serve the millionaire pretend cowboy crowd. Also, bonus neocon points for the Pyongyang clock!


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NotAReaderYet
Comment posted January 7, 2010 @ 1:27 pm

I suppose Conor Friedersdorf and his dog-eared copy of Roget's will get a byline or two, which is a good enough reason not to read it. If they want to get this thing off the ground, they'd better pay attention to what Breitbart does. Breitbart may not be the pinstriped crowd's cup of tea but he actually features some real reporting.


JimTreacher
Comment posted January 7, 2010 @ 2:00 pm

help i am being held prisoner


24AheadDotCom
Comment posted January 7, 2010 @ 2:15 pm

I've already predicted Weigel's next career stop.

As for the publication, it'd be interesting to know who came up with the money, and whether that will influence what they write. It'll also be interesting to see how closely they hew to the party line; the Treacher hire is minor but it isn't a good sign. And, when they cover imm. matters, it'll be interesting to see how much or how little they try to mislead; I suspect the first.


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Comment posted January 7, 2010 @ 2:46 pm

I don't hope it fails, but I sure wouldn't go near anything corrupted by Friedersdorf's bloated ego, dearth of talent, and utter lack of humor.


spoiledyappingdog
Comment posted January 7, 2010 @ 3:23 pm

Better Tucker burn thru his trust fund on a vanity site than try to buy arms for the teabaggers for the upcoming race war.
/sarcasm off


tnazar
Comment posted January 7, 2010 @ 3:43 pm

Tucker is still a d**k.


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Comment posted January 7, 2010 @ 3:51 pm

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Comment posted January 7, 2010 @ 5:43 pm

Bullseye, Yapper!!!
You have completely nailed the yapping little ankle-biter—–my daughter has no idea who Carlson is, but she named her chihuahua Tucker, nonetheless.


Kev
Comment posted January 7, 2010 @ 5:48 pm

The Daily Caller is taking one page from Andrew Breitbart, whose biggest story — a multi-city hidden-camera investigation of ACORN — came from two freelancing conservative conservative activists

“Conservative conservative activists? So does that mean they're really conservative?


Brian Garst
Comment posted January 7, 2010 @ 6:13 pm

Based on the level of left-wing vitriol in these comments, I'm sure it will be a rousing success!


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Comment posted January 7, 2010 @ 6:17 pm

Well, if Jim Treacher is a part of it, then…


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George
Comment posted January 8, 2010 @ 12:12 am

I thought Politico was answer to Hufpo?


NewsCorpse
Comment posted January 8, 2010 @ 1:11 am

Where did Tucker get $3 million from? So far he's failed on PBS, CNN, and MSNBC. And there are still investors willing to sink $3 mill into his sorry enterprise?

What is he offering that isn't already available from NRO, Fox Nation, Breitbart or web sites from conservative newspapers like the WSJ or the NYPost? And the Washington Times just folded their entry, TheConservatives.com.

This seems like a bad investment to me.


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matthewwp56
Comment posted January 8, 2010 @ 7:46 am

Godspeed Tucker C – We the People are sick and tired of stupid actors making the right look retarded on Fox; they are not conservatives at all.
Maybe Tucker will be a true conservative and address the VITAL issues of our day such as; The Pacific Gyre, Watersheds, The Monetary System (being on a solid Gold/Silver standard) and other criminal tricks our govt plays like the IRS.


jtdavis
Comment posted January 8, 2010 @ 9:06 am

“We the People are sick and tired of stupid actors making the right look retarded on Fox; they are not conservatives at all.”

Aha, the “No true Scotsman” fallacy. Seriously, the modern American right has never needed any help in that area – looking and acting retarded. But thanks for playing!


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Irish_Wake
Comment posted January 8, 2010 @ 11:51 am

Perhaps the gentleman was referring to the Fox actors that help the retarded right to appear conservative. However, I find that someone using 'We the People' when referring to themselves is substituting ideology for clear thinking. Is Mr. Carlson still spewing spittle over Jon Stewart?


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Comment posted January 8, 2010 @ 1:25 pm

Responding to Jon Stewart


rootdown42
Comment posted January 8, 2010 @ 5:13 pm

“Because he’s taken the time to defend himself with a firearm,” explained Carlson, “he’s not going to be victimized by the racist mobs below. He is smiling. That’s a smile that reflects both his self-satisfaction and also the promise of America.”

The promise of America is symobolized by a guy who needs a gun to to defend himself from other Americans? What is wrong with this pinhead?


rbryanbenafieldjr
Comment posted January 8, 2010 @ 8:21 pm

Was the slam of Breitbart necessary? No Could it have made Freidersdorf sound more like an bitter, elitist snob? No. I hope Carlson distances themselves from those remarks, because, they are going after some of the same readers. I hope it does well. I'll read it for Jim Treacher (or whatever his real name is) alone.


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WilyArmadilla
Comment posted January 11, 2010 @ 7:10 am

actually, I hope this site works out to be what Carlson hypes it to be. Unfortunately, we all know that the relationship between conservatives and verifiable fact haven't been good for quite a while now. It'll be interesting to see if, and how, they can reconcile honest, fact-based reporting with conservative ideology.

I wish 'em good luck, because we can never have too many facts…


brantl
Comment posted January 11, 2010 @ 9:37 am

I can't wait for Tucker to bomb, and big, just like he has everywhere else. Jon Stewart booted his juvenile little butt all over the place, he's never going to be ready for the big time.


Bobby_the_Lip
Comment posted January 11, 2010 @ 12:51 pm

Tucker is a bowtied moron. He should do well.


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Billrdt
Comment posted January 11, 2010 @ 4:42 pm

Interestingly, from the moment Jon Stewart did his thing (no one remembers Begala hiding in the shadows, that cowardly beatch), the major networks have turned into a total propaganda format. MSNBC and Fox got rid of any in-house debate or bi-partisanship and all these networks do is appeal to their base without honest, above board, jettison the talking points conersation the likes of which dominated Crossfire for about 15 years. Basically, Stewart brought upon the age of no thinking, no debate, propaganda-based lazy reporting. You go get 'em Tucker!


Irish_Wake
Comment posted January 11, 2010 @ 6:55 pm

You imply a correlation (or cause) between Jon Stewart and the decline of journalism. Here is what Mr. Stewart told Tucker Carlson :

“It's not so much that it's bad, as it's hurting America … Stop, stop, stop, stop hurting America.” –Jon Stewart, to “Crossfire” hosts Tucker Carlson and Paul Begala

“Right now, you're helping the politicians and the corporations. And we're left out there to mow our lawns.”

“you're doing theater, when you should be doing debate, which would be great.”

'It's not honest. What you do is not honest. What you do is partisan hackery.”

“You know, the interesting thing I have is, you have a responsibility to the public discourse, and you fail miserably.”

Unless I'm mistaken, Mr. Stewart stated your points with greater precision and depth of feeling. He did not, as you state, bring upon us the age of no thinking, no debate, propaganda-based lazy reporting.

Mr. Stewart feels the same way you do, yet you heap scorn on his ideas and cheer for those who are responsible for the age of no thinking, no debate, propaganda-based lazy reporting.


chrisjay
Comment posted January 12, 2010 @ 5:01 pm

At least Stewart is conscious of being a comedian—-one gets the feeling Carlson actually takes himself seriously


trippin
Comment posted January 13, 2010 @ 9:37 am

Ahhh… the “Propeller Head Post.” Sweeeeeet.


Irish_Wake
Comment posted January 13, 2010 @ 5:59 pm

I'm still confused by Bill's statements. Jon Stewart was pleading with these people to stop being no thinking, no debate, propaganda-based lazy sock puppets.

Jon told Carlson et. al. the same thing Bill said, using better imagery. Carlson not only thought Jon points were invalid, but felt cheated Jon didn't do a comedy routine.

Why would anyone think Tucker Carlson is capable of honest, above board talking points?


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Billrdt
Comment posted January 13, 2010 @ 6:46 pm

Stewart was bemoaning what Crossfire had become, a shouting match. What I am tryingt to establish is the irony that from that day, all the cable networks decided to get rid of any real dialogue and became impossibly partisan. Fox and MSNBC got rid of any semblance of real debate – thusly appealing solely to their bases.

If Stewart were to go on one of his lecturing rants today, what would he say to MSNBC and FOX? Things went from bad to worse.

Sometimes fixing a problem is best; had they brought back the old Crossfire it would have been best. Kinsley v. Novak was sublime and no one could get away with their talking points. Where on TV do you see senators, congressmen getting challenged by a supremely intelligent opponent and journalist in such a naked setting? Nowhere is the answer.


chrisjay
Comment posted January 14, 2010 @ 6:00 pm

Blaming Stewart for the state of news punditry is a little like blaming Will Rogers for how the Chicago Tribune kid-gloved Hitler in the 1930's.
Strangest causal-connecting theory I've heard in quite some time…


Billrdt
Comment posted January 15, 2010 @ 12:13 am

I respectfully disagree. While Tucker had already given his notice months before the tet-atet with Stewart, the head of CNN cancelled Crossfire shortly after the well publicized incident “agreeing” with Stewart. Google it and you will see that there was a cause and effect.

I agree that Stewart did not then cause the networks to become impossibly partisan (thusly avoiding any real intellectual debate – something that was at the heart of the first 10-15 years of Crossfire, but lacking at the end.

My point is that it is interesting that Stewart, who bemoaned the lack of dialogue, has not pursued his sermon further. If he was aghast at Crossfire, he should consequently be speechless about what then occured… except that the lack of actual dialogue has helped him take potshots at the networks. So he seemingly is OK with what has occured so long as it helps his career.

Shouldn't he be raving at how there is no longer any forum for contrarian views? Shouldn't he be calling for a show like Crossfire? Shouldn't we all?

What are our options? Rush, MSNBC, Fox? CNN has collapsed upon itself since, so where are we to turn for the platform that used to be Crossfire? Back in the day major politicians used to duke it out, naked, exposed, with one another, and we, the public could witness this lucid real life dialogue.

Everything is scripted these days.

I remain convinced that the last of the free speech days ended with Crossfire from a network POV.


chrisjay
Comment posted January 15, 2010 @ 10:00 pm

I'll really try to take your j'accuse at face value: Stewart is far from being the first (or only) one to skewer the Crossfire rage-orgy phenomenon; it's been a satire evergreen for years with SNL, Randi Rhodes etc. To me, the interesting thing about your observation would be to note that the left-leaning satirists have increasingly cornered the market on political humor seemingly as an inversely proportionate reaction to the monopoly which rightwing radio & tv punditry (all astoundingly humor-challenged) locked in as a benefit of Reagan's dismantling of the Fairness Doctrine in the mid-1980's.


AngryLiberal
Comment posted January 16, 2010 @ 10:25 am

Did you lose the bowtie Tuck? How come, tired of looking like the former Senator Paul Simon? (yeah not the singer)
Sign, HuffPo Sucks, so if that is their model… good luck, they are so going to need some luck to keep it up an running.


Irish_Wake
Comment posted January 16, 2010 @ 7:20 pm

Enough of this who-is-more-at-fault stuff.

I just logged onto Tucker Carlson's 'The Daily Caller' to review its content offering.

The site is created by morons catering to idiots. There is no content worthy of analysis. My IQ dropped while searching for any sign of interest.

Through his own actions, Mr. Carlson has proven Mr. Stewart correct.
Mr. Carlson has a long career ahead of him.


Irish_Wake
Comment posted January 17, 2010 @ 12:20 am

Enough of this who-is-more-at-fault stuff.

I just logged onto Tucker Carlson's 'The Daily Caller' to review its content offering.

There is no content worthy of analysis. My IQ dropped while searching for any sign of interest. My apologies to Ms. Cox.

Through his own actions, Mr. Carlson has proven Mr. Stewart correct.
Mr. Carlson has a long career ahead of him.


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