⭐🔥 Click here to check Latest Celeb News & Celebrity Gossip in 2022! 🔥⭐
The Washington Independent
The Washington Independent

Clinton and The Ticking Bomb

Sanah Connor
News
Last updated: Jul 31, 2020 | Jan 31, 2008
Illustration by: Matt Mahurin

There’s been a lot of controversy over a line in Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL)’s  jab yesterday at Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-NY) over foreign policy. As Matthew Yglesias reported, Obama drew a contrast between himself, his rival, and Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz) by saying the Democrats don’t need a nominee who "actually differed with [McCain] by arguing for exceptions for torture before changing positions when the politics of the moment changed." Oh snap!

As this Politico story from the fall notes, Clinton shifted positions on torture, having previously said she would seek a legal exemption for torture in the case where the U.S. has a detainee in custody who knows of an imminent attack — the famous "ticking bomb" hypothetical." But she now says "as a matter of policy it cannot be American policy, period," which is hardly an ironclad repudiation, since one can imagine exemptions for torture that aren’t official "policy." Such are the ways in which the meddlesome priest is gotten rid of. So let’s take a closer look at torture, even in the ticking bomb case.

When I was reporting my CIA interrogations piece, I talked with Mike Rolince, a longtime FBI counterterrorism special agent. To call Rolince, who has interrogated many detainees, a strident opponent of torture is to understate matters by orders of magnitude. I brought up the ticking-bomb case with Rolince, since torture advocates roll it out to make their strongest case. Rolince turned the tables on the would-be torturers: he said that torture would ensure the ticking bomb detonates, despite the lazy assumptions of the torture proponents, who ignorantly fancy themselves to be tough on national security.

"If a person is put under durress, coercion, or tortured, they’ll say anything, whether it’s true, false, made up, or saying what you already know," Rolince told me. "Let’s say they give you — I’m making up this number — 100 [supposed] facts, and ten of them true. That’ll lead you someplace, and I would argue that you could get [those ten] some other way. But the 90 that don’t lead you anywhere, that aren’t true — how long, and at what cost, will it take for people to learn that they’re bullshit? How many people will die as a result of that strategy? The amount of wasted time doesn’t justify what you think you’re getting, and could get in other ways. [The ticking bomb case] is nothing but a scare tactic."

Does Sen. Clinton agree?

Sanah Connor | Sanah Connor, a motivational keynote speaker, helps people and organizations improve their communication, interaction, and trust so they can have a greater effect on the world. She coaches her clients with zeal, assisting them in strengthening and elevating their leadership vision to new heights. Sanah knows how to rock a stage, interact with a crowd, and provide training so that others can effectively do the same. She has over ten years of corporate training experience, a talent for making substantive connections with audiences, and an insatiable appetite for helping others optimize their potential.

Related

$1.3 trillion in federal spending unaccounted for, report finds

Despite calls for independent bodies to keep government accountable, the Sunlight Foundation’s most recent Clearspending report has found the federal

$1.89 billion given to states to fight HIV

The federal government Monday announced more than $1.89 billion in funding to states to fight the HIV epidemic with access to care and with more cash for the failing AIDS Drug Assistance Program. According to an HHS press release , $813 million of that money will go directly to the ADAP programming. An additional $8,386,340 will be issued as a supplement to 36 states and territories currently facing a litany of unmet needs and access issues.

1 Brigade and 1 Battalion

ISTANBUL – It’s 10 p.m. in the lowest level of the Istanbul airport. In 20 minutes I’ll be allowed to board my plane to Kabul, bringing me to the

1. Brian Schweitzer

As governor of Montana, Schweitzer doesn’t represent one of the most highly populated, high-profile electoral states in the country. But this

#1 in Conspiracy Theories

Andrew Young’s tell-all biography of John Edwards, hitting shelves next week, is surging in one Amazon.com category in particular. #1 in Conspiracy

$1 Million for Toomey

Pat Toomey, the former Club for Growth president and leading Republican candidate in Pennsylvania’s 2010 Senate race, has announced a $1 million haul in the

$1 Trillion for Fannie and Freddie?

That is the worst-case scenario, according to Egan-Jones Ratings Co., quoted in a Bloomberg article making the rounds. The agency says that if home prices

$1.3 Million for Brown

The GOP’s candidate in the Massachusetts special election raised more than one million dollars -- double the goal -- in a 24-hour moneybomb on the Ron Paul

Ten Loopholes That Can’t Make It Into FinReg

Dan Pfeiffer, the White House communications director, wrote a blog post that lists the loopholes lobbyists most want inserted into Sen. Chris Dodd’s (D-Conn.)

Bachmann uncomfortable over earmarks ban

Republicans appear to have boxed themselves into a corner with their portrayal of earmarks as wasteful spending, as many of them have backed a moratorium on

Troubled mine holds hope for U.S. rare earth industry

China currently controls 97 percent of the world’s rare earth production. The Mountain Pass Mine could change that -- if it can overcome serious environmental concerns.

© Copyright 2022 The Washington Independent All Rights Reserved

Terms & Privacy | twi.news@washingtonindependent.com

⭐🔥 Click here to check Latest Celeb News & Celebrity Gossip in 2022! 🔥⭐