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		<title>Over half of 2011 New York Times issues to date contain articles sourced to WikiLeaks</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Apr 2011 21:48:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Despite attempts by the federal government to <a href="http://news.antiwar.com/2010/12/03/state-dept-warning-students-not-to-read-share-wikileaks/">delegitimize WikiLeaks</a>, a new <a href="http://www.theatlanticwire.com/global/2011/04/over-half-2011s-new-york-times-issues-use-wikileaks/37009/">review from The Atlantic</a> indicates that the whistleblowing organization has a great deal of impact on the media conversation over international relations, particularly in coverage from the news organization WikiLeaks has quarreled with the most, The New <a href="http://washingtonindependent.com/108571/over-half-of-2011-new-york-times-issues-to-date-contain-articles-sourced-to-wikileaks" class="read_more">More...</a></p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Despite attempts by the federal government to <a href="http://news.antiwar.com/2010/12/03/state-dept-warning-students-not-to-read-share-wikileaks/">delegitimize WikiLeaks</a>, a new <a href="http://www.theatlanticwire.com/global/2011/04/over-half-2011s-new-york-times-issues-use-wikileaks/37009/">review from The Atlantic</a> indicates that the whistleblowing organization has a great deal of impact on the media conversation over international relations, particularly in coverage from the news organization WikiLeaks has quarreled with the most, The New York Times.</p>
<p>The Atlantic’s Caitlin Dickson reports:</p>
<blockquote><p>By our count, on 63 days so far this year the paper&#8217;s reporters have relied on WikiLeaks documents as sources for their stories. Since April 25th is the 115th day of the year, that&#8217;s over half of all their issues this year. And just to be clear, we didn&#8217;t count stories that merely mentioned WikiLeaks or Julian Assange or Bradley Manning, only the ones that used documents from the site as a reporting source.</p>
<p>It now seems routine for WikiLeaks to serve as a source when it comes to American diplomacy, especially regarding the Middle East. Sometimes these stories are billed as revelations from WikiLeaks&#8217; cache, such as the March 2 story by James Risen on the Qaddafi sons&#8217; <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/03/world/africa/03cables.html?scp=85&amp;sq=wikileaks&amp;st=nyt">bitter business battles</a> which was headlined, &#8221;2 Qaddafis Fought Over Business, Cables Show.&#8221; But often the WikiLeak-ed documents are used as a stand-in for an American diplomatic spokesperson, source or expert.</p></blockquote>
<p>The Atlantic&#8217;s review of the prominence of WikiLeaks as a source for The New York Times comes the same day as the <a href="http://www.americanindependent.com/180724/nyt-classified-gitmo-docs-reveal-seat-of-the-pants-intelligence-gathering">Times reported on just who’s been detained at Guantánamo Bay since 9/11</a>, part of another round of leaked secret files &#8212; though, interestingly, the Times <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/25/wikileaks-gitmo-documents-backstory_n_853126.html">had to get access from a different source</a> given its relationship with WikiLeaks. The newly-leaked documents reveal that <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-13184845">nearly 20 percent of the detainees were completely innocent civilians</a>. Another 49 percent were low-ranking guerrillas of little utility to American intelligence.</p>
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		<title>NYT: Classified Gitmo docs reveal &#8216;seat-of-the-pants intelligence gathering&#8217;</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>On Sunday, <a href="http://wikileaks.ch/gitmo/">WikiLeaks</a> released more than 700 classified military documents on Guantánamo Bay prisoners, part of a trove of classified information it received last year, a portion of which the anti-secrecy website previously leaked to <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/25/world/guantanamo-files-lives-in-an-american-limbo.html?_r=1&#38;emc=na&#38;pagewanted=all">The New York Times</a> and <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/apr/25/guantanamo-files-lift-lid-prison">The Guardian</a>, among other publications.</p>
<p>WikiLeaks announced it will <a href="http://washingtonindependent.com/108534/nyt-classified-gitmo-docs-reveal-seat-of-the-pants-intelligence-gathering" class="read_more">More...</a></p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On Sunday, <a href="http://wikileaks.ch/gitmo/">WikiLeaks</a> released more than 700 classified military documents on Guantánamo Bay prisoners, part of a trove of classified information it received last year, a portion of which the anti-secrecy website previously leaked to <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/25/world/guantanamo-files-lives-in-an-american-limbo.html?_r=1&amp;emc=na&amp;pagewanted=all">The New York Times</a> and <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/apr/25/guantanamo-files-lift-lid-prison">The Guardian</a>, among other publications.</p>
<p>WikiLeaks announced it will be revealing details on each detainee every day over the coming month. According to <a href="http://www.npr.org/2011/04/25/135690218/military-documents-detail-life-at-guantanamo">National Public Radio</a>, the new information was made available to the The New York Times by another source, on the condition of anonymity; the two media outlets are reporting on the information in tandem.</p>
<p>In this latest secret documents release, WikiLeaks, headed by Julian Assange (who last week made <a href="http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,2066367_2066369_2066107,00.html">TIME&#8217;s 2011 list of most influential people in the world</a>), says it is &#8220;shining the light of truth on a notorious icon of the Bush administration&#8217;s &#8216;War on Terror.&#8217;&#8221;</p>
<p>All told, WikiLeaks released details on 758 out of 779 total cases of detainees at the Cuba prison &#8212; details obtained from thousands of pages worth of memoranda from the <a href="http://www.jtfgtmo.southcom.mil/">Joint Task Force at Guantánamo Bay</a> to the <a href="http://www.southcom.mil/appssc/index.php">U.S. Southern Command </a>in Florida, from January 2002 to February 2009. Details include prisoners&#8217; personal information, capture information, prisoners&#8217; health assessments, given reasoning for detainment, detainees&#8217; accounts, &#8216;enemy combatant&#8217; status and photos of most of the 171 prisoners still held in the prison. In addition, the organization has released summaries of evidence and tribunal transcripts on the first 201 prisoners released between 2002 and 2004, which, according to WikiLeaks, have never before been made public.</p>
<p>Wikileaks says these documents reveal evidence that the U.S. detained innocent men by mistake and offered &#8220;substantial bounties&#8221; to allies for al-Qaeda or Taliban suspects.</p>
<p><a href="http://wikileaks.ch/gitmo/">From WikiLeaks</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Crucially, the files also contain detailed explanations of the supposed intelligence used to justify the prisoners&#8217; detention. For many readers, these will be the most fascinating sections of the documents, as they seem to offer an extraordinary insight into the workings of US intelligence, but although many of the documents appear to promise proof of prisoners&#8217; association with al-Qaeda or other terrorist organizations, extreme caution is required.</p>
<p>The documents draw on the testimony of witnesses &#8212; in most cases, the prisoners&#8217; fellow prisoners &#8212; whose words are unreliable, either because they were subjected to torture or other forms of coercion (sometimes not in Guantánamo, but in secret prisons run by the CIA), or because they provided false statements to secure better treatment in Guantánamo.</p></blockquote>
<p>As details on detainees &#8212; and the evidence against them &#8212; makes its way to the public, The New York Times, The Guardian, and National Public Radio have provided varying insights on what this information tells us about the how the U.S. government has handled Gitmo.</p>
<p>From <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/25/world/guantanamo-files-lives-in-an-american-limbo.html?_r=1&amp;emc=na&amp;pagewanted=all">The New York Times</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>What began as a jury-rigged experiment after the 2001 terrorist attacks now seems like an enduring American institution, and the leaked files show why, by laying bare the patchwork and contradictory evidence that in many cases would never have stood up in criminal court or a military tribunal.</p>
<p>[...]</p>
<p>The government’s basic allegations against many detainees have long been public, and have often been challenged by prisoners and their lawyers. But the dossiers, prepared under the Bush administration, provide a deeper look at the frightening, if flawed, intelligence that has persuaded the Obama administration, too, that the prison cannot readily be closed.</p>
<p>[...]</p>
<p>The dossiers also show the seat-of-the-pants intelligence gathering in war zones that led to the incarcerations of innocent men for years in cases of mistaken identity or simple misfortune.</p>
<p>[...]</p>
<p>[F]or all the limitations of the files, they still offer an extraordinary look inside a prison that has long been known for its secrecy and for a struggle between the military that runs it — using constant surveillance, forced removal from cells and other tools to exert control — and detainees who often fought back with the limited tools available to them: hunger strikes, threats of retribution and hoarded contraband ranging from a metal screw to leftover food.</p></blockquote>
<p>From <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/apr/25/guantanamo-files-lift-lid-prison">The Guardian</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>The files depict a system often focused less on containing dangerous terrorists or enemy fighters, than on extracting intelligence. Among inmates who proved harmless were an <a href="http://gu.com/p/2ztxq">89-year-old Afghan villager, suffering from senile dementia, and a 14-year-old boy who had been an innocent kidnap victim</a>.</p>
<p>[...]</p>
<p>The range of those still held captive includes detainees who have been admittedly tortured so badly they can never be successfully tried, informers who must be protected from reprisals, and a group of Chinese Muslims from the Uighur minority who have nowhere to go.</p>
<p>One of those officially admitted to have been so maltreated that it amounted to torture is prisoner No 63, <a href="http://gu.com/p/2zgty">Maad al-Qahtani</a>. He was captured more than nine years ago, fleeing from the site of Osama bin Laden&#8217;s last stand in the mountain caves of Tora Bora in 2001. The report says Qahtani, allegedly one of the &#8220;Dirty 30&#8243; who were bin Laden&#8217;s bodyguards, must not be released: &#8220;HIGH risk, as he is likely to pose a threat to the US, its interests and allies.&#8221; The report&#8217;s military authors admit his admissions were obtained by what they call &#8220;harsh interrogation techniques in the early stages of detention.&#8221; But otherwise, the files make little mention of the widely-condemned techniques that were employed to obtain &#8220;intelligence&#8221; and &#8220;confessions&#8221; from detainees such as waterboarding, sleep deprivation and prolonged exposure to cold and loud music.</p>
<p>The files also detail how many innocents or marginal figures swept up by the Guantánamo dragnet because US forces thought they might be of some intelligence value.</p></blockquote>
<p>A few key findings outlined by <a href="http://www.npr.org/2011/04/25/135690218/military-documents-detail-life-at-guantanamo">National Public Radio</a>:</p>
<ul>
<li>A former detainee, <a href="http://www.npr.org/2011/04/25/135694391/guantanamo-document-abu-sufian-bin-qumu">Abu Sufian Ibrahim Ahmed Hamuda Bin Qumu</a>, who is believed to be training rebel forces in Libya, has closer ties to al-Qaida than previously understood publicly.</li>
<li><a href="http://projects.nytimes.com/guantanamo/detainees/535-tariq-mahmoud-ahmed-al-sawah">Tariq Mahmud Ahmad al Sawah</a>, who claimed to have designed the prototype for a shoe bomb that failed to ignite on a U.S. plane in 2001, was recommended for release from the prison.</li>
<li><a href="http://projects.nytimes.com/guantanamo/detainees/239-shaker-aamer">Shaker Aamer</a>, also known as Sawad al-Madani, said he had no connection to al-Qaida. His military assessment says he was Osama bin Laden&#8217;s personal English translator.</li>
<li><a href="http://projects.nytimes.com/guantanamo/detainees/10015-abd-al-rahim-al-nashiri">Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri</a>, the suspected plotter of the USS Cole attack in Yemen, reported directly to Osama bin Laden.</li>
<li>Guantanamo officials were aware that they had innocent men in captivity, yet it took months to return them to their home countries.</li>
<li>One detainee from Yemen informed on so many of his fellow detainees that authorities decided the reliability of his information was &#8220;in question.&#8221;</li>
<li>A Russian detainee was transferred to the control of Russian authorities, on the basis of assurances that he would be incarcerated back in Russia, only to be released from Russian custody a short time later. A Saudi detainee threatened to arrange the murder of &#8220;four or five&#8221; Americans in revenge for his imprisonment but offered not to follow through on the threat if he were paid $5 million to $15 million in compensation.</li>
</ul>
<p>The Times and NPR have created a <a href="http://projects.nytimes.com/guantanamo">database</a> featuring government documents, court records and media reports on the 779 detainees at Guantánamo.</p>
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		<title>As Crowley resigns over Manning comments, Rep. Kucinich reports unofficial denial of visit request</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Over the weekend, State Department spokesman P.J. Crowley announced his resignation from his position via a statement <a href="http://www.state.gov/secretary/rm/2011/03/158240.htm">available on the State Department website</a>. His resignation follows comments he made during a visit to MIT last week in which he called the Department of Defense’s treatment of Pfc. Bradley Manning <a href="http://washingtonindependent.com/106372/as-crowley-resigns-over-manning-comments-rep-kucinich-reports-unofficial-denial-of-visit-request" class="read_more">More...</a></p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Over the weekend, State Department spokesman P.J. Crowley announced his resignation from his position via a statement <a href="http://www.state.gov/secretary/rm/2011/03/158240.htm">available on the State Department website</a>. His resignation follows comments he made during a visit to MIT last week in which he called the Department of Defense’s treatment of Pfc. Bradley Manning “ridiculous and counterproductive and stupid.” <a href="http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/03/13/state-departments-p-j-crowley-stepping-down/?hpt=T2">CNN sources report</a> that the resignation was not Crowley’s decision and that officials in the Obama administration demanded it.</p>
<p>In Crowley’s resignation statement, he does not apologize for his comments, instead taking “full responsibility” for them and exhorting the government to exercise power in a way that is “prudent and consistent with our laws and values.”</p>
<p>Crowley wasn’t the only public official last week to decry the ongoing treatment of Manning at the Marine Corps Brig in Quantico, Virginia. Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-Ohio) <a href="http://kucinich.house.gov/News/DocumentSingle.aspx?DocumentID=223651">announced back in February</a> that he had requested an audience with Manning in Quantico. On Friday, he said in <a href="http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/03/13/rep-kucinich-unable-to-visit-accused-wikileaks-source/">a radio interview</a> that his request has not been officially denied, but that he has been bounced around the Department of Defense and two branches of the military for the last month without getting an answer. “The fact that he’s awaiting trial and they’re doing this to him raises serious questions about our criminal justice process.”</p>
<p>The news that Kucinich is being stonewalled in his attempts to visit Manning comes just days after <a href="http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2011/03/07/109907/guantanamo-visit-on-tap-for-some.html#ixzz1GX8lxU5S">a report that Rep. Allen West</a> (R-Fla.), a freshman congressman affiliated with the Tea Party, will this week visit Guantánamo Bay with five other congressmen whose names have not been disclosed. The purpose of the visit is said to be an investigation of detainee treatment and a review of military trials at Guantánamo. West, a retired career Army officer, faced disciplinary action following a 2003 incident in which he used gunplay as an intimidation tactic during an interrogation in Iraq. He was ultimately ordered to pay a $5,000 fine but avoided court-martial.</p>
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		<title>Senate Panel Blocks Funding for Obama&#8217;s GTMO Closure Plan</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>The Senate Armed Services Committee just released its <a href="http://armed-services.senate.gov/press/NDAA%20FY11%20Markup%20Press%20Release.pdf">summary text</a> of the defense authorization bill it marked up last night. And look what the bill does, <a href="http://washingtonindependent.com/85355/house-panel-deals-gitmo-closure-a-major-setback">just like its House counterpart</a>:</p>
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<div id="_mcePaste">Eliminates availability of funding for the construction of a military detention facility in Thomson, Illinois.</div></blockquote><p> <a href="http://washingtonindependent.com/85984/senate-panel-blocks-funding-for-obamas-gtmo-closure-plan" class="read_more">More...</a></p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Senate Armed Services Committee just released its <a href="http://armed-services.senate.gov/press/NDAA%20FY11%20Markup%20Press%20Release.pdf">summary text</a> of the defense authorization bill it marked up last night. And look what the bill does, <a href="http://washingtonindependent.com/85355/house-panel-deals-gitmo-closure-a-major-setback">just like its House counterpart</a>:</p>
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<div id="_mcePaste">Eliminates availability of funding for the construction of a military detention facility in Thomson, Illinois.</div>
<div>Restricts the transfer of detainees at Guantanamo Bay detention facility to certain countries where Al Qaeda has an active presence.</div>
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<p>The full text of the bill isn&#8217;t yet available. Robert Gibbs, the White House spokesman, last week floated that the money to buy Thomson &#8212; key to the administration&#8217;s plan to close Guantanamo Bay &#8212; could come from the Justice Department&#8217;s budget, which is still before the congressional judiciary committees.</p>
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		<title>Military Judge&#8217;s Ruling Likely to Delay Gitmo Hearing</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>GUANTANAMO BAY &#8212; The military judge presiding over Omar Khadr&#8217;s military commission on Monday handed the 23-year old Canadian citizen something he&#8217;s grown accustomed to in his eight years in U.S. detention centers: delay.</p>
<p>[Security1]Col. Patrick Parrish today granted the government&#8217;s request to conduct an independent psychological examination of Khadr, <a href="http://washingtonindependent.com/83858/military-judges-ruling-likely-to-delay-gitmo-hearing" class="read_more">More...</a></p>]]></description>
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<p>GUANTANAMO BAY &#8212; The military judge presiding over Omar Khadr&#8217;s military commission on Monday handed the 23-year old Canadian citizen something he&#8217;s grown accustomed to in his eight years in U.S. detention centers: delay.</p>
<p>[Security1]Col. Patrick Parrish today granted the government&#8217;s request to conduct an independent psychological examination of Khadr, who is charged with killing an Army Special Forces sergeant in Afghanistan in 2002. That exam, Parrish ruled, must occur before the defense can present its own expert mental-health witnesses in a hearing to argue that Khadr&#8217;s statements to his interrogators at Bagram Air Field and Guantanamo Bay ought to be inadmissible before the commission. The effect, said Khadr&#8217;s attorneys &#8212; who were reading Parrish&#8217;s ruling while holding an impromptu press briefing late Monday afternoon &#8212; will almost certainly be to pause the hearings for what the ruling calls &#8220;a period of four weeks&#8221; beginning next Monday.</p>
<p>&#8220;My general sense from a quick scan of the order that the judge doesn&#8217;t purport to actually compel Mr. Khadr to participate in the examination, but my expectation is that he will conclude that if Mr. Khadr does not participate, then it will be unfair for us to present our mental health testimony,&#8221; said Barry Coburn, one of Khadr&#8217;s attorneys. &#8220;It looks to me that what the judge is intending to do is adjourn, basically stop the hearing for a four-week period after the government completes presenting its evidence, which could occur tomorrow or the day after.&#8221;</p>
<div>Parrish&#8217;s order instructs defense counsel to advise the court by Friday if Khadr will consent to the psychological exam. Although Khadr&#8217;s attorneys said last week that they &#8220;tend to think he would not&#8221; consent, now that Parrish has ruled in the government&#8217;s favor, &#8220;I think it&#8217;s overwhelmingly likely that he will participate,&#8221; Coburn said. If so, then beginning on Monday, May 10, the government will have until June 7 to conclude the exam.</p>
<p>The delay also means a deferral in determining whether the latest version of the government&#8217;s military commissions for trying terrorism detainees &#8212; what officials hear have taken to calling &#8220;Military Commissions 4.2&#8243; &#8212; will provide a modicum of justice for defendants. &#8220;The government has refused to tender interrogators as witnesses and for deposition by the defense,&#8221; said Jennifer Turner, a human-rights expert observing the trial for the American Civil Liberties Union. &#8220;The fact that this decision will delay the presentation by the defense witnesses and a real presentation of what happened to Omar Khadr is a concern.&#8221;</p>
<p>During opening statements last Wednesday, Coburn&#8217;s co-counsel, Kobie Flowers, argued that the government&#8217;s desired exam was unnecessary, since the government had &#8220;the same access to all the [Khadr mental health] records we have access to&#8221; and warned that Khadr would essentially be &#8220;incriminating himself by participating in their examination.&#8221; But Air Force Cpt. Christopher Eason, one of the prosecutors on the case, argued that the defense &#8220;cannot use [mental health] as a shield to protect their client from our experts and a sword to attack our evidence.&#8221;</p>
<p>The defense&#8217;s mental health experts, retired Army Brig. Gen. Stephen Xenakis and Dr. Kate Porterfield of New York University, intend to testify that Khadr&#8217;s youth &#8212; he was 15 when captured in Afghanistan &#8212; rendered all of the government&#8217;s interrogations inherently coercive to a degree that render them inadmissible for trial.</p>
<p>One aspect of that coercion emerged in testimony today from <a id="ii:s" title="a former Army medic at Bagram called by the prosecution to testify" href="../83781/bagram-ex-medic-says-khadr-not-abused-but">a former Army medic at Bagram called by the prosecution to testify</a>. Khadr swore in his affidavit that while at Bagram, &#8220;the soldiers tied my hands above my head to the door frame or chained them to the ceiling and made me stand like that for hours at a time.&#8221; Mr. M, the pseudonym given to the medic, testified that on one occasion, he saw Khadr handcuffed to the frame of the outermost door to his cell, with his hands &#8220;lightly above eye level, about in line with his forehead&#8221; and &#8220;some type of a cloth hood&#8221; placed over his head.</p>
<p>Khadr sustained bullet wounds to his shoulder about three months before the incident, and Mr. M said that when he removed Khadr&#8217;s hood he observed Khadr crying &#8212; though more from being &#8220;very frustrated&#8221; than from pain, in his view. Mr. M testified that the guards placed Khadr in that position for &#8220;punishment&#8221; for an unknown infraction. He did not state how long Khadr was remained shackled.</p>
<p>Coburn called the testimony &#8220;the most substantial&#8221; piece of independent corroboration of Khadr&#8217;s affidavit to date. &#8220;All we have heard from the government, to my knowledge, in response to that affidavit has been skepticism,&#8221; he said. &#8220;I think it&#8217;s quite interesting, really, to see that a witness &#8212; not a witness that we called, but a witness the government called &#8212; has so directly and substantially corroborated an allegation of what I regard as egregious, inexcusable and repulsive abusive treatment&#8230; It&#8217;s torture.&#8221;</p>
<p>But before Parrish will indicate whether he agrees with Coburn &#8212; or, at least, that the behavior Khadr experienced materially impacts the admissibility of his statements to interrogators &#8212; the government will get to subject Khadr to psychiatric evaluation. While the government sought in its motion for the exam to exclude defense counsel from attending, Parrish&#8217;s ruling does not address that request, and both Coburn and Flowers said they did not expect Parrish to block their attendance. Accordingly, they dodged a question about whether they would premise Khadr&#8217;s participation on their ability to observe the exam.</p>
<p>Flowers expressed disappointment with Parrish&#8217;s ruling. The government&#8217;s psychological exam is &#8220;arguably a way for them to re-traumatize this guy,&#8221; Flowers said. &#8220;I do believe that it&#8217;s just completely unnecessary. They can get an expert, like it&#8217;s done all across this great country, and read what the reports are, read what the raw data is, and make a decision.&#8221;</p>
<p>The prosecution is expected to finish calling its witnesses as early as Tuesday, when the five-day hearing resumes. Parrish informed both the prosecution and the defense at the conclusion of Monday&#8217;s hearing that he would entertain arguments on the terms of the exam.</p>
<p>Coburn said that Parrish&#8217;s decision meant it was &#8220;perhaps a little bit less likely at this moment than it was a couple of hours ago&#8221; to keep to the scheduled July beginning for Khadr&#8217;s military commission. &#8220;I think that&#8217;s going to be a great disappointment to Mr. Khadr,&#8221; he said, &#8220;because he has been anxious to move forward with this.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Most Dramatic Testimony of Post-9/11 Era Expected at Gitmo</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 May 2010 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Spencer Ackerman</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>GUANTANAMO BAY &#8212; The pre-trial <a id="rzfr" title="hearing for a 23-year old Canadian citizen tried before a military commission" href="../83458/gitmo-abuse-contaminated-governments-case-attorneys-say">hearing for a 23-year old Canadian citizen tried before a military commission</a> is likely to host some of the most dramatic testimony of the post-9/11 era this week. That is, if <a href="http://washingtonindependent.com/83715/most-dramatic-testimony-of-9-11-era-expected-at-gitmo" class="read_more">More...</a></p>]]></description>
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<p>GUANTANAMO BAY &#8212; The pre-trial <a id="rzfr" title="hearing for a 23-year old Canadian citizen tried before a military commission" href="../83458/gitmo-abuse-contaminated-governments-case-attorneys-say">hearing for a 23-year old Canadian citizen tried before a military commission</a> is likely to host some of the most dramatic testimony of the post-9/11 era this week. That is, if the government and defense attorneys don&#8217;t reach a plea deal to settle the case of Omar Khadr, who has been held in detention for nearly eight years and charged with the murder of a U.S. Special Forces soldier.</p>
<p>Khadr&#8217;s attorneys plan to call someone known only as &#8220;Interrogator #1&#8243; to testify this week. According to attorneys Barry Coburn and Kobie Flowers, Interrogator #1 will testify to having personally threatened Khadr in 2002 with sending the then-15 year old son of an Osama bin Laden associate to Egypt to be raped if he did not cooperate with interrogators at Bagram Air Field in Afghanistan.</p>
<p>[Security1]Additionally, during cross-examination during the first four days of the hearing &#8212; in which Khadr&#8217;s attorneys are asking a military judge to exclude all of their client&#8217;s statements to his interrogators from the government&#8217;s case against him, arguing that they occurred under coercion and even torture &#8212; Khadr&#8217;s attorneys have asserted that the first person to have ever interrogated Khadr at Bagram was court-martialed from the military for participating in the abuse of detainees.</p>
<p>This interrogator appears to be a different person than Interrogator #1, since Coburn said in a Saturday press conference that the court-martialed interrogator was &#8220;someone whom I&#8217;d very much like to be here,&#8221; and Interrogator #1 is scheduled to testify. &#8220;If that person is not here, and testifies electronically, that would be disappointing to me, but the most important thing is that that witness testify,&#8221; Coburn continued. He would not answer any substantive questions about either interrogator or their possible testimony.</p>
<p>If either Interrogator #1 or the other &#8220;First Interrogator&#8221; testifies, their faces will be visible in the super-secure courtroom here and their names will not be revealed. But published reports indicate a few likely possibilities for their identities. Former Army Spc. Damien Corsetti, a military interrogator at Bagram in 2002, was acquitted by a court-martial of various disciplinary infractions, but has confessed to involvement in the abuse of detainees. &#8220;I firmly believe it was torture and unfortunately I took part in it,&#8221; Corsetti said of Khadr&#8217;s treatment at Bagram <a id="wve7" title="in a 2009 interview with the Toronto Star's Michelle Shephard" href="http://www.thestar.com/unassigned/article/573298">in a 2009 interview with the Toronto Star&#8217;s Michelle Shephard</a>.</p>
<p>While Corsetti is not believed to have interrogated Khadr, he might still have threatened the 15-year old during detainee operations at Bagram, where Khadr was held after his July 2002 capture by U.S. troops before his transference to Guantanamo in October 2002. A Saudi man who was detained at Bagram has said that Corsetti threatened him with rape, according to <a id="ej4a" title="a New York Times account" href="http://www.nytimes.com/2005/05/20/international/asia/20abuse.html?_r=1&amp;pagewanted=all">a 2005 New York Times </a>expose into detainee abuse at the prison.</p>
<p>That same report identified Joshua Claus as an Army specialist responsible for the violent deaths of two detainees at Bagram, named Habibullah and Dilawar, a few months after Khadr was transfered to Guantanamo. Claus served five months in military prison in 2005 after pleading guilty to assault and misrepresenting his involvement in the deaths to investigators. A former lawyer for Khadr said in 2008 that Claus conducted &#8220;<a id="qolz" title="virtually all" href="http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=373277">virtually all</a>&#8221; of Khadr&#8217;s Bagram interrogations.</p>
<p>Testimony from any interrogator about personal involvement in detainee abuse on behalf of an abused detainee will be a milestone for the military commissions, or for any other forum for post-9/11 justice. No other case has featured such a dramatic and potentially self-incriminatory development. Asked last week why an interrogator would potentially incriminate himself, Coburn <a id="bt18" title="replied" href="../83458/gitmo-abuse-contaminated-governments-case-attorneys-say">replied</a>, &#8220;I don’t know the answer to that.&#8221;</p>
<p>Any account from former interrogators about abusing Khadr will contrast sharply with the accounts of five interrogators who have testified thus far on behalf of the prosecution. Those interrogators, who worked for the FBI, the Naval Criminal Investigative Service and the Defense Intelligence Agency, have testified  that Khadr was a cooperative and good-natured detainee who cooperated with his Bagram and Guantanamo detainees without any coercion. All interrogated Khadr when he was 16 years old, and said he responded positively to such inducements as food from McDonald&#8217;s, car and motorcycle magazines, and the promise of what one called &#8220;Islamic children&#8217;s books.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;If you notice the way the government is presenting evidence in this hearing, what we&#8217;re hearing from overwhelmingly are FBI agents or Naval Criminal Investigative Service agents who talked to Omar Khadr way later, long after he was initially detained,&#8221; Coburn told reporters Saturday when challenged about their accounts, indicating his witnesses would pre-date the government&#8217;s. &#8220;This was just sort of renegade conduct that occurred for a certain period of time, which is, from our point of view&#8230; something that poisoned the well.&#8221;</p>
<p>This week&#8217;s hearing will not resolve Khadr&#8217;s case. It&#8217;s to adjudicate the defense&#8217;s contention that initial mistreatment of Khadr in Bagram &#8220;poisoned the well&#8221; of evidence that the government can use against him during his scheduled July military commission &#8212; hence the testimony of the interrogators on the question of Khadr&#8217;s treatment.</p>
<p>But it&#8217;s possible that all remaining questions in Khadr&#8217;s case &#8212; from his treatment in detention to his alleged killing of U.S. Army SFC Christopher Speer &#8212; could be rendered moot.</p>
<p>Both the government and the defense have now publicly acknowledged negotiations to resolve Khadr&#8217;s case out of court. Anonymous administration officials told The Washington Post that they do not want the first military commission of the Obama administration to be against someone who was a juvenile when he was detained. Additionally, if the government loses the hearing to suppress ostensibly coerced evidence, it could threaten the viability of the commissions themselves, as all other detainees charged before the commissions could potentially cite Khadr&#8217;s case to argue that the circumstances of their detention are inherently coercive &#8212; thereby weakening the government&#8217;s cases against them, even in a forum like the military commissions that afford fewer rights to defendants than civilian courts.</p>
<p>But Coburn said on Saturday that his highest priority was securing the most favorable outcome possible for his client, not potentially assisting other detainees by pressing on with the so-called &#8220;suppression&#8221; hearing. &#8220;I don&#8217;t think that either I or Mr. Khadr or the other members of our team are thinking that much about the precedential value of what’s happening here as far as it might effect other detainees,&#8221; he <a id="d06." title="said" href="../83743/khadr-lawyer-opens-door-to-a-plea-deal">said</a>.</p>
<p>Even if there isn&#8217;t a plea deal announced this week, there&#8217;s another procedural snarl that would, at the least, delay the proceedings. Army Col. Patrick Parrish, the military judge presiding over Khadr&#8217;s case, said he would rule Monday on a request by the prosecution to subject Khadr to its own psychological screening &#8212; without defense counsel present. The prosecution said when it unveiled its request on court Wednesday that it anticipated needing &#8220;five weeks&#8221; for the desired examination. That would essentially freeze the suppression hearing in place for approximately a month without a resolution, making it more difficult to open Khadr&#8217;s actual military commission on schedule in July.</p>
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		<title>Will GTMO Honor Judge&#8217;s Request for Khadr to Appear in Court?</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Apr 2010 18:01:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Spencer Ackerman</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>GUANTANAMO BAY &#8212; We&#8217;ve just been informed that <a href="http://washingtonindependent.com/83509/confusion-reigns-at-gitmo-after-khadr-is-a-courtroom-no-show">the recess ordered by Col. Patrick Parrish, the military judge, to ensure Omar Khadr will be advised of his fundamental rights in his military commission,</a> has been extended to 2 p.m. But that doesn&#8217;t mean we&#8217;ll be out of the procedural <a href="http://washingtonindependent.com/83541/will-gtmo-honor-judges-request-for-khadr-to-appear-in-court" class="read_more">More...</a></p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GUANTANAMO BAY &#8212; We&#8217;ve just been informed that <a href="http://washingtonindependent.com/83509/confusion-reigns-at-gitmo-after-khadr-is-a-courtroom-no-show">the recess ordered by Col. Patrick Parrish, the military judge, to ensure Omar Khadr will be advised of his fundamental rights in his military commission,</a> has been extended to 2 p.m. But that doesn&#8217;t mean we&#8217;ll be out of the procedural thicket in another hour.</p>
<p>Uncomfortable with moving forward until Khadr knows his rights, Parrish told Khadr&#8217;s lawyers that either they can administer those rights by proxy at Camp Delta or he&#8217;ll order what&#8217;s called a &#8220;forced cell extraction&#8221; &#8212; having guards force Khadr into court. Khadr did not attend a pre-trial hearing this morning, and prosecutors and defense counsel sparred over whether that decision was actually voluntary.</p>
<p>But even if Parrish opts for the &#8220;forced cell extraction&#8221; (or FCE in military acronym-ese) that doesn&#8217;t necessarily mean Rear Adm. Thomas Copeman, the commander of the detention facility housing Khadr, will comply. <span id="more-83541"></span>&#8220;In the past Admiral Copeman has refused to do a FCE without a court order,&#8221; Navy Commander Brad Fagan, a spokesman for Copeman&#8217;s command, emailed reporters here. &#8220;As per Khadr and today&#8217;s events, we&#8217;d have to wait and see what the judge/court decides to do (i.e., if they decide to issue a court order or not).&#8221; Parrish, in other words, may have to issue a formal court order for the FCE &#8212; and see if Copeman complies.</p>
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		<title>Gitmo Abuse &#8216;Contaminated&#8217; Government&#8217;s Case, Attorneys Say</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Apr 2010 11:00:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Spencer Ackerman</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>GUANTANAMO BAY &#8212; Making the most of their first court appearance since President Obama halted and then resumed the military commissions, attorneys for Omar Khadr, the Canadian citizen held here since he was 15 years old and charged with murder and support for terrorism, launched a forceful case Wednesday afternoon <a href="http://washingtonindependent.com/83458/gitmo-abuse-contaminated-governments-case-attorneys-say" class="read_more">More...</a></p>]]></description>
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<p>GUANTANAMO BAY &#8212; Making the most of their first court appearance since President Obama halted and then resumed the military commissions, attorneys for Omar Khadr, the Canadian citizen held here since he was 15 years old and charged with murder and support for terrorism, launched a forceful case Wednesday afternoon that a military judge should bar from court all statements Khadr made to his interrogators for the last eight years.</p>
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<p>[Security1]&#8220;We will show this case was tainted by these statements from the very beginning,&#8221; Kobie Flowers, one of Khadr&#8217;s lawyers, told a packed courtroom, with Khadr himself seated just a few feet away. The physical and mental abuse that Khadr claims in an affidavit to have suffered at the hands of U.S. law enforcement, intelligence and detention personnel &#8220;contaminated&#8221; the heart of the government&#8217;s case against Khadr, he said: &#8220;The well, as it were, was poisoned.&#8221;</p>
<p>A team of four prosecutors led by Jeffrey Groharing, a retired Marine major, responded that Khadr&#8217;s lawyers hadn&#8217;t met their burden for demonstrating that Khadr was abused, as Khadr &#8212; looking healthy in a white shirt and thick beard &#8212; looked on stoically. Dismissing a central aspect of the defense, Groharing bluntly stated that &#8220;no secret evidence&#8221; would be used in the government&#8217;s case against Khadr, and called to the stand an FBI special agent who testified to &#8220;non-confrontation[ally]&#8221; interrogating Khadr in October 2002 in Afghanistan. The prosecution additionally contended that Khadr&#8217;s own affidavit about his abuse should be excluded from court, since prosecutors couldn&#8217;t cross-examine the defendant &#8212; a motion that the judge in the proceeding, Army Col. Patrick Parrish, quickly rejected in the only question settled during the three-hour hearing.</p>
<p>But in the hearing&#8217;s most dramatic moment, Flowers said at least one interrogator would testify to having personally taken part in Khadr&#8217;s abuse. As <a id="dgsz" title="detailed in a motion filed by the defense in 2008" href="../83108/will-military-commissions-under-obama-differ-from-the-bush-era">detailed in a motion filed by the defense in 2008</a>, Khadr claims in his affidavit that his interrogators threatened him with rape, denied him medical treatment for gunshot and shrapnel wounds he suffered in his July 2002 capture in Afghanistan, and used him as a &#8220;human mop&#8221; to clean up his own excrement. The interrogator, referred to in the hearing only as &#8220;Interrogator #1,&#8221; will testify on behalf of the defense that he personally threatened Khadr &#8220;with rape&#8221; by threatening to render Khadr to an undisclosed Arab country where he would face the abuse.</p>
<p>Asked for clarification after the hearing why the interrogator would risk incriminating himself, Flowers&#8217; co-counsel Barry Coburn replied, &#8220;I don&#8217;t know the answer to that.&#8221; He said he expected the interrogator to testify either late this week or early next week.</p>
<p>Flowers and Coburn further alleged that the government has impaired its ability to investigate Khadr&#8217;s case and accordingly hindered their ability to defend their client. They said that at least 31 different law enforcement and intelligence agents had interrogated Khadr, but that the government had only provided them access to three &#8212; and that one of them, known only to the court as &#8220;Interrogator #3,&#8221; may have falsified a report of Khadr&#8217;s interrogation &#8212; something they learned only after reviewing an extensive report from the Justice Department into FBI knowledge of abuse at Bagram Airfield in Afghanistan and Guantanamo Bay.</p>
<p>In response, the hearing&#8217;s only witness thus far, FBI Special Agent Robert Fuller, testified to interrogating Khadr six times in Bagram during a two-week period in October 2002, shortly before Khadr&#8217;s arrival in Guantanamo Bay. Fuller, a ten-year FBI veteran with the Joint Terrorism Task Force in New York City and before that a New York police officer, called Khadr&#8217;s treatment &#8220;comfortable, reasonable&#8221; and &#8220;conversational, non-confrontational,&#8221; leading Khadr to confess to throwing a grenade that killed a U.S. Army Special Forces sergeant, Christopher Speer.</p>
<p>The FBI agent further said Khadr never once complained to him of any abuse the detainee experienced and that his interrogation sessions would feature &#8220;snacks&#8221; and bottles of water brought for Khadr &#8212; although he also said that guards brought Khadr into the interrogation room with a full hood over his head.</p>
<p>Consistent with his behavior for the entire hearing, Khadr did not have any distinct reaction to Fuller&#8217;s testimony. The detainee, now approximately 23 years old, showed only the slightest of responses during the three-hour hearing, occasionally shifting in his chair, resting his chin on his fist to listen to the proceedings, or grinning understatedly at the few dozen observers lining the maroon-carpeted courtroom. After the hearing adjourned around 4:15 p.m. &#8212; so Khadr could pray &#8212; one of his Canadian lawyers, Nathan Whitling, told reporters, &#8220;he&#8217;s pretty uncomfortable in there.&#8221;</p>
<p>That wasn&#8217;t the only uncomfortable moment in the hearing. <a id="ucl6" title="Parrish cancelled the entire morning session" href="../83365/khadr-trial-delayed-a-few-hours">Parrish cancelled the entire morning session</a>, scheduled to begin at 9 a.m., so officers of the court could read 280 pages worth of rules of evidence and procedure issued only the previous evening. Coburn said he didn&#8217;t even receive the so-called Manual for military commissions until 9:20 a.m., and he was back in court by 1 p.m., citing rules in the Manual that he later called &#8220;extremely marginal improvements&#8221; over an earlier edition that was overridden after Congress and the Obama administration passed a law last year restructuring the military commissions.</p>
<p>Some of those provisions, contained in what the Manual calls Rule 304, speak to the suppression of coerced evidence that Khadr&#8217;s attorneys seek. It bars statements produced by torture or coercion. But it allows the entrance into evidence of statements a defendant makes if a judge finds &#8220;the totality of the circumstances renders the statement reliable&#8221; and that the statement was &#8220;voluntarily given.&#8221; Additionally, lawyers can use statements of other detainees &#8220;allegedly produced by coercion&#8221; if a judge finds them to be torture-free, reliable, and if &#8220;the interests of justice would best be served by admission of the statement into evidence.&#8221;</p>
<p>Other aspects of the Manual appear incomplete. Several rules are listed as blank &#8212; an implicit recognition of the rush with which Pentagon officials completed the Manual barely in time for Khadr&#8217;s pre-trial hearing, as even former commission officials expressed surprise that the Pentagon could move forward with the hearing without rules of evidence and procedure in place.</p>
<p>Additionally, as <a id="dzft" title="first reported by The Miami Herald's Carol Rosenberg" href="http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/04/28/1602894/new-war-court-manual-reaches-guantanamo.html">first reported by The Miami Herald&#8217;s Carol Rosenberg</a>, the Manual strips judges of the ability to factor into sentencing the years detainees have already served at Guantanamo Bay, and it doesn&#8217;t resolve a long-standing question vexing the commissions: Whether a detainee can plead guilty to a judge in a war-crime hearing that carries a death sentence.</p>
<p>The Manual can&#8217;t resolve more fundamental disputes concerning the military commissions. Several times throughout Wednesday&#8217;s hearing, Khadr&#8217;s lawyers referred the detainee&#8217;s &#8220;Constitutional rights,&#8221; only to face objections from the prosecution that the Constitution doesn&#8217;t apply to the Guantanamo population. Parrish, seeking to streamline the issues he must adjudicate, instructed counsel to table the debate.</p>
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		<title>&#8216;Urban Myth&#8217; Behind Graham&#8217;s Support for 9/11 Military Trials</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 11:00:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Spencer Ackerman</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Lindsey Graham is on the verge of winning an argument. Graham, the  Republican senator from South Carolina, has pledged for weeks to deliver  the votes from his fellow Republicans to finally close the detention  facility at Guantanamo Bay, a campaign pledge from President Obama, if  and only if Obama agrees <a href="http://washingtonindependent.com/78925/urban-myth-behind-grahams-support-for-911-military-trials" class="read_more">More...</a></p>]]></description>
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<p>Lindsey Graham is on the verge of winning an argument. Graham, the  Republican senator from South Carolina, has pledged for weeks to deliver  the votes from his fellow Republicans to finally close the detention  facility at Guantanamo Bay, a campaign pledge from President Obama, if  and only if Obama agrees try Khalid Shaikh Mohammed and the other 9/11  conspirators in a military commission. On Friday, the White House said  it was &#8220;weeks away&#8221; from any decision about whether to scrap a civilian  trial for the man known as KSM &#8212; which could give Graham what he wants.</p>
<p>[Security1] There&#8217;s  just one problem. Graham&#8217;s rationale for why KSM needs to be tried in a  military commission and not a civilian court has to do with the  procedures in the commissions for protecting classified information. But  the revisions to the military commissions approved by Congress last  year &#8212; with significant input from Graham himself &#8212; removed any  significant difference between how classified information is handled in  military and civilian venues. Accordingly, Chris Anders, a lobbyist for  the American Civil Liberties Union, said Graham&#8217;s position was founded  on &#8220;one big urban myth&#8221; &#8212; though whether that will affect Obama&#8217;s  political calculation over the trial remains to be seen.</p>
<p>Asked to  specify Graham&#8217;s objection to trying KSM in civilian court, Kevin  Bishop, Graham&#8217;s chief spokesman, said that the senator is concerned  about the potential for releasing classified information in open court.  &#8220;Military justice and the military framework &#8212; a military commission &#8212;  would allow us to better protect classified information,&#8221; Bishop said.  Graham made a version of that argument on February 13 in the Republican  radio address, referencing a 1995 terrorism trial and asserting,  &#8220;valuable intelligence was compromised.&#8221;</p>
<p>But the military  framework for handling classified information is almost exactly the  civilian framework for handling it. <a href="http://www.defenselink.mil/news/2009%20MCA%20Pub%20%20Law%20111-84.pdf">The  Military Commissions Act of 2009</a>, which set procedure for the  revised military commissions, explicitly instructs military judges to  look to the civilian rules for protecting classified information, known  as the Classified Information Procedures Act, or CIPA. Under the Act&#8217;s  fifth subchapter governing the &#8220;construction of provisions&#8221; for the  &#8220;protection of classified information,&#8221; the text says that &#8220;the judicial  construction of the Classified Information Procedures Act (18 U.S.C.  App.) shall be authoritative,&#8221; except in certain specific cases that  Justice Department officials said are legally arcane.</p>
<p>&#8220;Any  concern about the treatment of classified information in federal court  is a solution in search of a problem,&#8221; said Joshua Dratel, one of a  handful of defense attorneys to have taken on terrorism cases in the  pre-9/11 civilian courts, in the post-9/11 civilian courts and in every  version of the military commissions. &#8220;There simply has not been a  problem in handling classified information in civilian federal court  trials.&#8221;</p>
<p>The commission rules for handling classified  material only outpace CIPA for marginal aspects of trial procedures,  such as explicitly prohibiting the disclosure of verbal testimony and  not just documents &#8212; even though judges for years have considered the  distinction meaningless and have prohibited all such disclosures.  Accordingly, Attorney General Eric Holder testified to the Senate  Judiciary Committee in November that &#8220;the standards recently adopted by  Congress to govern the use of classified information in military  commissions are derived from the very CIPA rules that we use in federal  court,&#8221; making the two venues a distinction without a difference from  the perspective of protecting sensitive material. &#8220;We can protect  classified material during trial,&#8221; Holder said.</p>
<p>Dean Boyd, the  spokesman for the Justice Department&#8217;s National Security Division,  underscored the point. &#8220;Over the years, experienced prosecutors have  worked closely with the intelligence community to protect classified  information in such cases, using CIPA procedures, and have successfully  prosecuted many terrorists while complying with the applicable rules,&#8221;  Boyd said. &#8220;The system provided by CIPA for cases prosecuted in federal  court has generally worked well in protecting classified information,  while also ensuring fair, credible, and effective trials.&#8221;</p>
<p>The  CIPA system was good enough for Graham during last&#8217;s year&#8217;s debate over  the commissions, when he helped craft the provisions of the Military  Commissions Act of 2009 governing classified information. On July 23,  2009, Sen. Carl Levin (D-Mich.) introduced those provisions into fiscal  2010 defense authorization, the vehicle for passage of the commissions  act. &#8220;Madam President,&#8221; Levin said, &#8220;the amendment I now offer, along  with Senators Graham and McCain, would modify the procedures for the  handling of classified evidence by military commissions&#8230; It has the  support of the Justice Department and the Department of Defense.&#8221;</p>
<p>Graham  has other reasons for supporting a military commission for Khalid  Shaikh Mohammed &#8212; &#8220;Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, if he&#8217;s not an enemy  combatant, who is?&#8221; Bishop said; the Obama administration <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/03/13/AR2009031302371.html">has  abandoned the &#8220;enemy combatant&#8221; designation</a> for suspected  terrorists &#8212; but Graham&#8217;s specific objection to the civilian trial  centers on a claimed distinction between civilian and military  procedures for handling classified information.</p>
<p>During the 30  years CIPA has governed classified disclosures in civilian courts, &#8220;the  government is always in control of what gets released publicly,&#8221; said  Dratel. All officers of the court, from defense counsel to a judge&#8217;s  clerks, must hold security clearances to view classified information in  secure facilities. &#8220;There is a court security officer, some of the most  competent people if not the most competent people in the government, who  operate to control these situations.&#8221; When judges permit defense  counsel like Dratel &#8212; never their clients &#8212; to view classified  information relevant to a case, &#8220;it doesn&#8217;t go to me; it sits in a  secure room in a courthouse or other government building that no one has  access to except people with a key and a combination.&#8221;</p>
<p>Any  piece of classified information defense counsel wishes to enter into  evidence must be approved by a judge. &#8220;If a judge agrees with me, then  the government has a choice,&#8221; Dratel continued. &#8220;It has the choice of  either declassifying the information or offering a substitution that  would satisfy due process &#8212; in other words, my right to present my  defense while at the same time protecting the classified information.  And most classified information, in my experience, is about sources and  methods.&#8221; These procedures now form the basis for how military  commissions handle classified information as well.</p>
<p>To underscore  Graham&#8217;s concerns, Bishop cited the 1995 case of Omar Abdul Rahman, the  &#8220;blind sheikh&#8221; successfully prosecuted for involvement in the conspiracy  to bomb the World Trade Center in 1993, in which the government&#8217;s list  of Rahman&#8217;s unindicted co-conspirators reportedly leaked out of the  courtroom and made its way to Osama bin Laden. &#8220;Our intelligence  services later learned this list made its way back to bin Laden tipping  him off about our surveillance,&#8221; Graham stated in his February radio  address arguing against a civilian trial for KSM. &#8220;A conviction was  obtained in that trial, but valuable intelligence was compromised. The  rest is history.&#8221;</p>
<p>In 2008, however, a lengthy investigation into  the criminal justice system&#8217;s handling of terrorism cases sponsored by  Human Rights First determined that the list was never classified &#8212; and  that prosecutors on the case never even sought to &#8220;invoke CIPA or other  protections regarding the names on the list of unindicted  co-conspirators.&#8221; The report, written by two veterans of the U.S.  Attorney&#8217;s office for the Southern District of New York who did not work  on the case, continues, &#8220;Had the government sought a court order  restricting dissemination of the list, perhaps it would not have been  disseminated to Bin Laden.&#8221; One of the authors of the report, Richard  Zabel, is now the chief of the Criminal Division of the U.S. Attorney’s  Office for the Southern District of New York.</p>
<p>&#8220;If it had been  classified and only available to [security-]cleared counsel, it never  would have been circulated,&#8221; said Andrew Patel, one of the lawyers for  Rahman&#8217;s co-conspirators. &#8220;This is the archetype of the government  saying &#8216;we need additional tools&#8217; when they failed to use the tools they  had.&#8221;</p>
<p>Indeed, Holder addressed the Rahman disclosure in a  November exchange with Sen. Orrin Hatch before the Senate Judiciary  Committee. &#8220;The co-conspirator list was not a classified document. Had  there been a reason to try to protect it, prosecutors could have sought a  protective order, but that was not a classified document,&#8221; Holder said.  &#8220;The provisions designed to protect sources and methods in the military  commissions are based on the CIPA Act that we use in [federal] courts.&#8221;</p>
<p>The  ACLU&#8217;s Anders wondered whether the novelty of military commissions &#8212;  especially as the legal rules under the commissions have changed three  times since the Bush administration created them after 9/11 &#8212; might  make them more likely avenues for inadvertent disclosure of classified  information in a KSM trial. &#8220;Who is going to do a better job with  applying the substantively difficult law protecting classified  information,&#8221; Anders said, &#8220;federal judges who have regularly applied it  in many cases, or military commission judges who have never even tried a  complex criminal case, much less the most important international  terrorism case in history?&#8221;</p>
<p>Dratel agreed, citing a case he  argued at Guantanamo Bay in which a judge blurted out that something  stated in court &#8220;probably&#8221; ought to have been classified. &#8221; Any  preference for military commissions based on some purported danger of  release of classified information in federal courts is like worrying  about ships going too far toward the horizon because they&#8217;ll fall off  the edge of the earth,&#8221; he said. &#8220;It is simply without any factual  foundation, and ignores the 30-year history of federal courts handling  classified information in the context of criminal prosecutions.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Conservative &#8216;Rebuke&#8217; of Cheney Plays Itself Out</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 05:00:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>David Weigel</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>One of the things Charles &#8220;Cully&#8221; Stimson remembers about the interview that cost him his job is just how run down he was when it happened. His January 11, 2007 <a id="od83" title="sit-down with Federal News Radio" href="http://www.federalnewsradio.com/emedia/59677.wma">sit-down with Federal News Radio</a>, said Stimson, was one of 40 interviews he&#8217;d <a href="http://washingtonindependent.com/78688/conservative-rebuke-of-cheney-plays-itself-out" class="read_more">More...</a></p>]]></description>
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<p>One of the things Charles &#8220;Cully&#8221; Stimson remembers about the interview that cost him his job is just how run down he was when it happened. His January 11, 2007 <a id="od83" title="sit-down with Federal News Radio" href="http://www.federalnewsradio.com/emedia/59677.wma">sit-down with Federal News Radio</a>, said Stimson, was one of 40 interviews he&#8217;d given that week. That&#8217;s one of the reasons the deputy assistant secretary of defense for detainee affairs stumbled so badly when talking about a Freedom of Information Act request that would have revealed the names of attorneys who were defending prisoners detained at Gitmo.</p>
<p>[GOP1] &#8220;When corporate CEOs see that those firms are representing the very terrorists who hit their bottom line back in 2001,&#8221; said Stimson to Fed News, &#8220;those CEOs are going to make those law firms choose between representing terrorists or representing reputable firms, and I think that is going to have major play in the next few weeks.&#8221;</p>
<p>The comment, coming only days after Democrats took charge of both houses of Congress, blew up in Stimson&#8217;s face. Within three weeks, he had resigned. He apologized to the lawyers that he &#8220;allegedly was slamming.&#8221; He would never have done such a thing. Cut to last week, when he saw an ad by Keep America Safe, a national security think tank founded by Liz Cheney and Bill Kristol, that demanded the names of attorneys who&#8217;d defended Gitmo detainees &#8212; what it called <a id="c2.x" title="&quot;the Al Qaeda Seven&quot;" href="http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/03/05/liz-cheneys-al-qaeda-seven/">&#8220;the Al Qaeda Seven&#8221;</a> &#8212; and gone on to work for the Department of Justice.</p>
<p>&#8220;I think the blowback against me,&#8221; Stimson told TWI, &#8220;especially the ad hominem attacks, was unfair. And I think that these ad hominem attacks &#8212; calling the Department of Justice, where I proudly served, the Department of Jihad &#8212; are disgusting.&#8221;</p>
<p>Over the weekend, Stimson joined 19 other conservative lawyers, many of them fellow veterans of George W. Bush&#8217;s administration, <a id="ubaa" title="signed a letter" href="http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0310/34050.html">signed a letter</a> condemning Keep America Safe for &#8220;a shameful series of attacks on attorneys in the Department of Justice.&#8221; The letter, written by Ben Wittes of the Brookings Institution, compared what the lawyers did to what John Adams did in defending the soldiers accused in the Boston Massacre. One reason Stimson signed the letter, he told TWI, was that his &#8220;controversial&#8221; 2007 episode would bring more attention to a cause he supported.</p>
<p>One week after Keep America Safe launched the campaign, the strategy of Stimson and co-signers like Ken Starr and David Rivkin appeared to have paid off with plenty of <a id="dwy9" title="articles" href="http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/declassified/archive/2010/03/08/i-was-disgusted-says-former-bush-official-about-liz-cheney-ad.aspx">articles</a> about their criticism and a partial apology from CNN for the way it packaged its segment on the subject. But the pushback is unlikely to become what critics hoped it might &#8212; a humbling moment for Cheney, Kristol, and neoconservatives who aim to move the administration&#8217;s national security policy closer to that of the Bush administration. Sources close to Keep America Safe acknowledged that its &#8220;Al Qaeda Seven&#8221; ad had played poorly in Washington, but were confident that the &#8220;conservatives versus Cheney&#8221; story had played itself out without dealing a substantial blow to national security conservatives.</p>
<p>On Monday, the effort by conservative attorneys to criticize Keep America Safe had apparently peaked. In op-eds and in conversations with TWI, other Bush administration veterans largely defended Cheney, even if they agreed that the TV ad had gone too far. Curt Levey, a Bush DOJ veteran who now runs the Committee for Justice &#8212; one of several conservative legal groups that vets Obama nominees for court slots &#8212; told TWI that the criticism could have been headed off had Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) received, as he had requested, the names of the DOJ lawyers who&#8217;d done work for terrorism suspects. (The names, as Fox News would find, could be located with some digging on the internet.)</p>
<p>&#8220;Attorney General [Eric] Holder brought this controversy on himself by resisting Grassley’s reasonable request,&#8221; said Curt Levey. &#8220;Despite the usual rhetorical excesses of political ads, Keep America Safe has not argued that the Al Qaeda Seven’s past work disqualifies them from working at DOJ. So the Human Rights Watch letter is aimed, at least in part, at a straw man argument. I would add that it’s curious that many of the Democrats who defended Holder’s refusal to disclose are the very same folks who gleefully investigated every detail of the Bush Justice Department’s hiring practices in the hope of proving that the department deliberately tried to increase the paltry representation of conservatives among the ranks of DOJ’s career attorneys.&#8221;</p>
<p>A similar argument came from Marc Thiessen, a former speechwriter for Bush and Donald Rumsfeld, in the column he now writes for The Washington Post. &#8220;Where was the moral outrage when fine lawyers like John Yoo, Jay Bybee, David Addington, Jim Haynes, Steve Bradbury and others came under vicious personal attack?&#8221; <a id="s7vt" title="wrote Thiessen" href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03/08/AR2010030801742.html?hpid=opinionsbox1">wrote Thiessen</a>. &#8220;Their critics did not demand simple transparency; they demanded heads. They called these individuals &#8216;war criminals&#8217; and sought to have them fired, disbarred, <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/19/opinion/19sun1.html?_r=1">impeached</a> and even jailed. Where were the defenders of the &#8216;al-Qaeda seven&#8221; when a Spanish judge tried to indict the &#8216;<a href="http://www.newyorker.com/talk/2009/04/13/090413ta_talk_mayer">Bush six</a>&#8216;? Philippe Sands, author of the &#8216;<a href="http://www.tortureteam.com/">Torture Team</a>,&#8217; crowed: &#8216;This is the end of these people&#8217;s professional reputations!&#8217; I don&#8217;t recall anyone accusing <em>him</em> of &#8216;shameful&#8217; personal attacks.&#8221;</p>
<p>Hans Von Spakovsky, a former counsel to the Assistant Attorney General for Civil Rights in the Bush administration &#8212; and like Stimson, now a Heritage Foundation scholar &#8212; aligned himself with Cheney. &#8220;I don’t think it is unfair or somehow improper to criticize those lawyers who have volunteered to help the enemies of the United States who are dedicated to killing as many innocent Americans as possible and destroying our country,&#8221; Von Spakovsky told TWI. &#8220;I certainly don’t think those same lawyers should be in the Justice Department directing policy and making decisions on prosecutions of those same terrorists. That would be like hiring Mob lawyers in the Organized Crime and Narcotics Task Force or hiring someone who volunteered to defend the Klu Klux Klan in the Civil Rights Division. Those lawyers who all come from big firms have a wide choice of who to help on a pro bono basis and their choice of terrorists says a lot about them –- I would not hire them to represent my company, either, if I were still a corporate in-house counsel, because I would not want my company’s money subsidizing that kind of legal work.&#8221;</p>
<p>One week after Keep America Safe launched its campaign, there was more evidence of <a id="s8u9" title="rallying effect" href="http://michellemalkin.com/2010/03/08/thank-you-keep-america-safe/">rallying behind Keep America Safe</a> than of more conservatives turning on Cheney. Allies of the group laughed off the idea that Democrats could stoke more controversy by re-enacting the legislative drubbing that Republicans gave MoveOn.org for its 2007 ad asking whether Gen. David Petraeus would mislead in his testimony about Iraq and become &#8220;General Betray-Us.&#8221; Democrats, they argued, knew that they didn&#8217;t have a long-term winning argument to buttress the murmurs of conservative anger. In his conversation with TWI, Stimson poured cold water on any Democrats who hoped he&#8217;d become a steady critic of Keep America Safe.</p>
<p>&#8220;I like Bill Kristol,&#8221; he said. &#8220;I like Debra Burlingame. If I met Liz Cheney, I&#8217;m sure I&#8217;d like her, too.&#8221;</p>
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