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		<title>CIA&#8217;s Indictment of Bush on Torture</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 14:43:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Spencer Ackerman</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[About that David Rose piece for Vanity Fair I mentioned: really, give it a read. Rose patiently tracks how the collapse of Jose Padilla&#8217;s prosecution begins with the detention and torture of a recovering heroin addict named Binyam Mohammed. When Rose asks FBI Director Robert Mueller if any terrorist attacks on the U.S. were disrupted [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>About that <a href="http://www.vanityfair.com/magazine/2008/12/torture200812">David Rose piece for Vanity Fair</a> I <a href="http://washingtonindependent.com/22390/what-cheney-tells-you-is-total-fing-bull">mentioned</a>: really, give it a read. Rose patiently tracks how the collapse of Jose Padilla&#8217;s prosecution begins with the detention and torture of a recovering heroin addict named Binyam Mohammed. When Rose asks FBI Director Robert Mueller if any terrorist attacks on the U.S. were disrupted because of torture, Mueller replies, &#8220;I don’t believe that has been the case.&#8221; And there&#8217;s a special guest appearance by Libby-and-Blagojevich-hunter Pat Fitzgerald, who accompanies an FBI agent in 1998 to Morocco to interrogate a terrorist. (Interestingly nicknamed &#8220;Joe The Moroccan.&#8221;) They secure his testimony &#8212; and use it to convict his accomplices &#8212; without laying a finger on him.</p>
<p>And in light of the controversy over John Brennan and <a href="http://washingtonindependent.com/22029/amid-bush-era-taint-an-intelligence-dilemma">finding a new leadership for the intelligence community untainted by torture</a>, consider carefully what this anonymous CIA official tells Rose:<span id="more-22399"></span></p>
<blockquote><p>“We were done a tremendous disservice by the administration,” one official says. “We had no background in this; it’s not something we do. They stuck us with a totally unwelcome job and left us hanging out to dry. I’m worried that the next administration is going to prosecute the guys who got involved, and there won’t be any presidential pardons at the end of it. It would be O.K. if it were John Ashcroft or Alberto Gonzales. But it won’t be. It’ll be some poor G.S.-13 [bureaucrat] who was just trying to do his job.”</p></blockquote>
<p>You wouldn&#8217;t approve of treating Lynndie England or Charles Graner as the architects of torture at Abu Ghraib, would you?</p>
<p>Finally, here&#8217;s something that rarely gets discussed in all the talk about intelligence failures from 9/11 to Iraq. Best intelligence practices say torture is an unreliable method for yielding useful information. Yet intelligence analysts who had to craft assessments from the debriefs of captured Al Qaeda operatives were left without any way of knowing that the basis for their reports was unreliable:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;We didn’t know he’d been waterboarded and tortured when we did that analysis, and the reports were marked as credible as they could be,” the former Pentagon analyst tells me. “The White House knew he’d been tortured. I didn’t, though I was supposed to be evaluating that intelligence.” To draw conclusions about the importance of what Abu Zubaydah said without knowing this crucial piece of the background nullified the value of his work. “It seems to me they were using torture to achieve a political objective. I cannot believe that the president and vice president did not know who was being waterboarded, and what was being given up.”</p></blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;s pretty much designing failure into the architecture of intelligence work. If the point of the torture is, <a href="http://washingtonindependent.com/22390/what-cheney-tells-you-is-total-fing-bull">as Dick Cheney says</a>, to yield reliable information &#8212; leave aside the actual relationship between torture and <em>unreliable</em> information &#8212; it&#8217;s nonsensical to exclude such a crucial data point from intelligence analysts. The only reason to do so is to protect the torture program from outraged CIA or Pentagon analysts who might blow the whistle to an inspector-general, or to Congress, or to the press. And at that point it&#8217;s clear that good intelligence work is no longer what&#8217;s at issue here.</p>
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		<title>Obama, Brennan, the CIA and a Compounding Misunderstanding</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 15:35:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Spencer Ackerman</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Shane Harris of National Journal has a good, short piece about John Brennan&#8217;s withdrawal from consideration for CIA director. (Unfortunately, it&#8217;s behind NJ&#8217;s subscription wall, so I&#8217;ll have to use a screencap to pull what I consider the relevant text.)
The nickel version is that CIA people are astonished that criticism from bloggers like Glenn Greenwald [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shane Harris of National Journal has a good, short piece about <a href="http://washingtonindependent.com/20721/experience-and-intelligence-go-hand-in-hand">John Brennan&#8217;s withdrawal from consideration for CIA director</a>. (Unfortunately, <a href="http://www.nationaljournal.com/njmagazine/ad_20081206_1783.php">it&#8217;s behind NJ&#8217;s subscription wall</a>, so I&#8217;ll have to use a screencap to pull what I consider the relevant text.)</p>
<p>The nickel version is that CIA people are astonished that criticism from <a href="http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/11/16/brennan/">bloggers like Glenn Greenwald over torture</a> drove Brennan out &#8212; they mean that derisively &#8212; and they worry that it means Obama won&#8217;t support the agency&#8217;s operators:<span id="more-21057"></span></p>
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I myself <a href="http://attackerman.firedoglake.com/2008/11/26/brennantorturereconsidered/">equivocated</a> on Brennan, and consider the ultimate test about the guy &#8212; <a href="http://washingtonindependent.com/20094/brennan-wont-be-cia-director">who I&#8217;d heard described in exactly these torture-opponent terms</a> &#8212; to be dependent on a full declassification of how the torture policies actually came together.</p>
<p>But here&#8217;s the thing: it&#8217;s not inconsistent for Obama to want his intelligence team to represent a clean break from Bush&#8217;s, contra the implication of the ex-official who asked if Obama would stand behind CIA operatives when they&#8217;re &#8220;asked to do tough things.&#8221; If <em>Bush</em> dumped Brennan, <em>that</em> would be inconsistent. Obama is under no obligation to continue the Bush administration&#8217;s policies &#8212; indeed, he was elected to <em>reverse</em> them.</p>
<p>You can say that it&#8217;s not fair for Brennan to be a part of Obama&#8217;s team. But it&#8217;s groundless to say that it augurs some kind of CIA sellout. The agency, however, lives in fear of this sort of thing, as <a href="http://www.thenation.com/doc/20080714/ackerman">its history is one of taking the fall for the cockamamie and illegal schemes of presidents</a>. And so this perception is as good as reality &#8212; as anyone who&#8217;s ever bickered with a spouse over a misunderstanding knows &#8212; and Obama&#8217;s probably going to have to send a CIA director to Langley with flowers, jewelry and gift certificates to the spa.</p>
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		<title>Recasting the War on Terrorism</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 10:10:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Spencer Ackerman</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Liberal groups see a successful counterterrorism strategy doing more than ending torture, closing Guantanamo Bay, restricting CIA interrogation practices and curbing domestic spying. It must restore America's moral stature in the world, and one way to do that is help resolve Arab-Israeli conflicts. The new administration seems receptive to the need for change.]]></description>
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<p>Buoyed by high expectations for the first year of Barack Obama&#8217;s administration, an informal coalition of progressive national-security and civil-liberties experts are urging the president-elect to redefine the war on terrorism.</p>
<p>Eight years of the Bush administration&#8217;s approach to counterterrorism have yielded two open-ended and bloody wars; a massively expanded security apparatus, and spending on defense far outpacing outlays on domestic programs, even during a crisis-plagued economy.</p>
<p>Yet while liberals have spent much of this time opposing the Bush administration&#8217;s agenda, many of their proposals for Obama go beyond merely rolling back President George W. Bush&#8217;s policies &#8212; withdrawing from Iraq, shuttering the Guantanamo Bay detention complex, abolishing torture &#8212; to offer new areas of emphasis, like stabilizing Afghanistan, an Arab-Israeli peace and a re-envisioned balance between security and liberty.</p>
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<p>Through white papers delivered to the Obama transition team, new reports and interviews with reporters, this loose affiliation of progressives is saying it has a real opportunity to recast the U.S. effort against terrorism in fundamental ways.</p>
<p>Consistent with the broader progressive agenda of achieving global security through multilateral cooperation, economic development and respect for human rights, the past few days have seen a series of proposals urging rejection of the Bush administration&#8217;s militarism. To the degree these various progressive groups have a concerted goal, it&#8217;s to influence the transition with specific liberal ideas for new directions in the war on terrorism.</p>
<p>&#8220;Not just his rhetoric,&#8221; said Joanne Mariner, terrorism and counterterrorism director at Human Rights Watch, &#8220;but in the promises he&#8217;s kept &#8212; his vote against the Military Commissions Act of 2006, [which] was quite important &#8212; Obama has made clear he has a very different approach in mind to counterterrorism than the [Bush] administration has taken.&#8221;</p>
<p>Mariner&#8217;s organization, one of the leading global human-rights groups, released a report Friday listing 11 recommendations for Obama. Chief among them: sign an executive order restricting the CIA&#8217;s interrogation practices to the same Geneva Conventions-compliant standards of the U.S. military; repudiate Justice Dept. memoranda that reserved for the president the authority to approve torture and indefinitely detain suspects in the war on terrorism; close Guantanamo and begin trials of its inmates in civilian courts, and create a commission to investigate human-rights abuses.</p>
<p>The Obama presidency provides &#8220;an opportunity for this to be implemented,&#8221; Mariner said. &#8220;There&#8217;s a broad recognition of a change of course needed by this new administration &#8212; particularly as it&#8217;s the one that has, in many ways, signaled it wants to make dramatic changes. There&#8217;s almost a perfect storm of possibility for change.&#8221;</p>
<p>In the two weeks since his election, Obama has sent a number of signals that he intends to move quickly on reversing much of the Bush counterterrorism agenda. &#8220;I have said repeatedly that I intend to close Guantanamo, and I will follow through on that,&#8221; the president-elect told CBS News&#8217; Steve Kroft Sunday on &#8220;60 Minutes.&#8221; &#8220;I&#8217;ve said repeatedly that America doesn’t torture, and I’m going to make sure that we don’t torture. Those are part and parcel of an effort to regain America’s moral stature in the world.&#8221;</p>
<p>Some of the expected front-runners for Obama&#8217;s cabinet have sounded similar themes. Eric Holder, the former Justice Dept. official believed to have the inside track for attorney general, gave a speech at the liberal American Constitution Society in the spring that unequivocally rejected torture and Guantanamo and waxed almost metaphysical about the importance of a re-imagined counterterrorism approach.</p>
<p>&#8220;Let me be clear,&#8221; Holder told the lawyers&#8217; association. &#8220;I firmly believe that there is evil in the world, and that we still face grave dangers to our security. But our ability to lead the world in combating these dangers depends not only on the strength of our military leadership but our moral leadership as well. &#8230; To recapture it, we can no longer allow ourselves to be ruled by fear. We must evaluate our policies and our practices in the harsh light of day and steel ourselves to face the world’s dangers in accord with the rule of law.&#8221;</p>
<p>As welcome to liberals as such statements are, an impromptu coalition of civil-liberties and national-security organizations joined forces, beginning in July, to deliver a then-prospective Obama administration with a coordinated agenda.</p>
<p>More than 25 organizations, including the Center for American Progress, a progressive think tank, the Gun Owners of America lobby group and the well-heeled Washington law firms of Arnold &amp; Porter and Crowell &amp; Moring, united under the aegis of the Constitution Project, a progressive legal foundation, to present a one-stop-shopping resource for both the presidential and congressional transitions. Titled &#8220;Liberty and Security: Recommendations for the Next Administration and Congress,&#8221; the 62-item report was released Tuesday.</p>
<p>Its agenda is not dissimilar with Human Rights Watch&#8217;s. High on its list are ending torture, indefinite detention and rendition; restricting the FBI&#8217;s ability to obtain communications without a court order; rolling back this year&#8217;s changes to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act that civil libertarians believe contravene 4th Amendment&#8217;s privacy guarantees; curtailing the president&#8217;s ability to issue so-called signing statements that unilaterally exempt him from obeying laws, and strengthening Congress&#8217; exclusivity over declaring war.</p>
<p>Becky Monroe, policy counsel for the Constitution Project, explained that her organization began in late spring asking veterans of previous administrations what was most helpful to their work of staffing a new government. The general answer: consolidation.</p>
<p>&#8220;We were acting more as a convener,&#8221; she said, since &#8220;so many different groups were coming forward with different documents&#8221; outlining their vision of a recalibrated liberty-security balance.</p>
<p>The resulting coalition intends to present &#8220;members of the transition team [and] staffers on the Hill&#8221; with the report, Monroe said. &#8220;Further down, we want to set up experts with meetings&#8221; with transition staffs, she said. While Monroe didn&#8217;t say so, such meetings could go a long way toward landing liberal security and civil-liberties experts jobs in the all-important middle tiers of the federal government.</p>
<p>Beyond the formal reports, the constellation of progressives in and outside of Washington have no shortage of ideas for Obama to take up.</p>
<p>&#8220;A successful counterterrorism agenda for the new administration needs to place a high priority on resolving the Israeli-Palestinian and Arab-Israeli conflicts,&#8221; said Jeremy Ben-Ami, a senior White House policy aide in the Clinton administration who is now executive director of the progressive American Jewish organization, J Street. &#8220;If the new president is looking for a single bold strategy that can not only weaken extremist non-state actors, undermine the pull of state sponsors of terrorism such as Iran and bolster the governments of allied moderate states, he need look no further than active efforts to promote a comprehensive Arab-Israeli peace. President-elect Obama’s victory provides the best opportunity in a generation to repair the U.S. image and restore its leadership in the world, enabling it to rally the world to defeat the forces of extremism and terror.&#8221;</p>
<p>Richard Smith, an Army veteran of Afghanistan who is now a member of the progressive veterans&#8217; organization VoteVets, urged a less conventional approach to the Afghanistan war that Obama has pledged to reprioritize.</p>
<p>&#8220;I&#8217;d like to see a specific effort in the agricultural sector,&#8221; Smith said in an email. &#8220;Often, the guys who fire a [rocket-propelled grenade] at a [U.S. military base] or convoy aren&#8217;t Taliban loyalists, but farmers who have felt pocketbook pain as a result of poppy eradication.  The Taliban offer them a little something, and they get to feed their families for a few days.  Basically, destroying poppy to defund the Taliban also helps them recruit.  However, the areas were poppy is currently cultivated (particularly Helmand province) was once famous for pomegranate orchards.  If we can provide agricultural assistance and help develop an export market for Afghan pomegranates, I think it would be a great benefit to the [counterinsurgency] effort.&#8221;</p>
<p>Taylor Marsh, a progressive political analyst and former radio host, also urged a renewed counterterrorism focus in South Asia. &#8220;Counterterrorism in the Obama administration has to begin with the Af-Pak region immediately,&#8221; she said, referring the to Pashtun areas of Afghanistan and Pakistan. &#8220;First, we need limited additional deployment of forces into Afghanistan. Afghan cities must be made more stable, through working with NATO countries, or we&#8217;re going to have more problems not fewer with regard to terrorism. Because focusing on Pakistan alone, the jihadists will simply cross the border where we&#8217;re not building security. The Af-Pak region deals with two countries of varying complexities and unique challenges for Obama &#8212; but neither country can be dealt with in a vacuum.&#8221;</p>
<p>Michael Froomkin, a law professor at the University of Miami and a blogger at Discourse.net, argued for a greater U.S. cultural re-engagement with the world, including a removal of visa restrictions on foreign graduate students. The U.S. needs &#8220;way more exchange programs,&#8221; Froomkin emailed. &#8220;We win both ways &#8212; they come here and learn we&#8217;re OK (or even wonderful); we go there and learn the language and culture and learn how not to step in it&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
<p>Still others urged a broader theoretical reconception of the war on terrorism. &#8220;Counterterrorism should be a law-enforcement accountability, not military,&#8221; emailed Jesse Wendel, a veteran of the Army&#8217;s 101st Airborne Division, and his co-blogger, the pseudonymous Minstrel Boy, who said he is a U.S. Navy Seal veteran of Vietnam. Both blog at the popular Group News Blog, which Wendel publishes.</p>
<p>&#8220;Treating terrorists as military targets gives terrorists enormously too much credibility,&#8221; they contended in a co-signed email. &#8220;Terrorists are <em>not </em>nation-states; they are criminals and should be treated like the murderers they are, without giving them a political platform or publicity. The military is not trained to hunt civilians worldwide. The military is trained to kill targets in a kill-zone.&#8221;</p>
<p>Similarly, Matt Stoller, the progressive netroots activist and blogger with OpenLeft, said he hoped the Obama administration heralded an end to &#8220;security theater&#8221; &#8212; using a term coined by cybersecurity expert Bruce Schneier that means ostentatious but ineffective displays of increased security.</p>
<p>Schneier himself, reached in London, was skeptical that security theater would be eliminated. &#8220;Imagine you&#8217;re an elected official,&#8221; said Schneier, the chief security technology officer for BT, the British telecommunications corporation. &#8220;You can either exaggerate the threat or downplay the threat. If you exaggerate [to say], &#8216;We must do all these things,&#8217; and you&#8217;re wrong, no one notices. You can even claim you&#8217;re right.</p>
<p>&#8220;But if you downplay a threat,&#8221; Schneier continued, &#8220;and you&#8217;re wrong, you&#8217;re out of a job. So it&#8217;s the natural propensity for anyone to overplay the threat. It makes you look strong.&#8221;</p>
<p>Still, Schneier expected Obama to represent a significant improvement over Bush in the counterterrorism realm. &#8220;He&#8217;ll do a lot of good things to make us truly safer,&#8221; he said. &#8220;Will he eliminate the [Dept. of Homeland Security's] color-coded threat system? Probably. Will he rollback airport security to pre-9/11 levels? Probably not. Will he make our foreign policy more sensible? More likely. Fund intelligence fully? Most likely.&#8221;</p>
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