How Much Does it Cost to Deport 392,000 People?

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Ms. Foly has made so many mistakes in her previous presentations, it is a wonder she is allowed to make this one. In fact, why IS she allowed to make this one.

It DOES cost money to deport the illegal aliens. It costs a whole lot more to let them remain in this country, and if you look at what is happening, the protests on the illegal aliens are about the cost of the illegal aliens. The Catholic Church claims all Americans are racist and xenophobes.. they do love to call names.. but read the countless websites using government documentation and the issue is MONEY.. and illegal aliens are very, very, very expensive.

http://www.fairus.org
http://www.cis.org
http://www.numbersusa.com

http://marysaggies.blogspot.com/2008/01/illegal-immigration-and-catholic-church.html
http://maverickphilosopher.typepad.com/maverick_philosopher/2010/05/immigration-the-catholic-bishops-and-the-misuse-of-scripture.html

Boil it all down and the issue is STILL framed in these two sites.
Cost of deporting… $94 billion.
http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/09/13/estimate-for-deporting-illegal-immigrants-94-billion/

Cost of amnesty for illegal aliens… 2.6 trillion.
http://www.heritage.org/research/immigration/wm1490.cfm

Shuck the amnesty and this is a very, very good idea.
The right way to mend immigration
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03/17/AR2010031703115.html?hpid=opinionsbox1

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Yes the heritage Foundation can always be trusted to come up with honest #'s regarding immigration…wack jobs like you should stay in your basement cowering from poor and desperate people.

At roughly $22,000 per illegal it is worth every penny when you stop and think about the savings to the taxpayers. Schooling costs roungly $8,000 per pupil so from that perspective alone we break even in about two and a half years and over the next 7 and 1/2 years ( assuming they drop out at 16 as most do ) we save $60,000 per deportee. Then of course let's not forget the free medical care they get at emergency rooms. Count that as at least at least a few $1,000 per year, assuming they need the same average health care as everyone else, unless they are on kidney dialysis or cancer treatment then it's a couple hundred thousand per person. Factor in the cost to automobile accident victims of their driving without insurance and since they have abysmal drunk driving records that will save at least $22,000 per illegal over their life time ( easily estimated by recognizing insurance companies pay back most premiums in claims over time and the average cost of insurance is probably around $800 per year per for the average person). And of course let us not forget the fact probably 20% of the million plus men in prison are latinos at a cost of $40,000 thousand per year for many years. All the while they are depressing average wages and taking money under the table without paying taxes when working and when not they are getting foods stamps, housing aid and other assistance and it starts to look like a heck of bargain to get rid of this dead weight for a mere $22,000 per person.

Surely, Mike, you are a smarter and more decent person than your very hateful post indicates?

Do you really think of human beings as “dead weight?”

The essence of bigotry is mischaracterizing all of the individual members of a group as a single stereotyped villain.

There is no factual basis for your generality that all illegal immigrants are 'freeloaders.” On the contrary, most studies indicate that the majority of 'undocumented workers' make a net financial contribution to the U.S. economy.

There is a legitimate controversy about the effects of illegal immigration on wage rates on the lower end of the income scale. The studies are inconclusive, and none take into account the reduction of the cost of food eaten by the poor due to cheap foreign labor. This issue is not dissimilar to the Walmart controversy where one side accuses Walmart of crushing independent businesses and depressing wages while the other side says that Walmart cheap labor policies make goods less expensive for less affluent consumers.

It does seem that one of the few genuinely important “changes” made by the Obama administration from the Bush administration insanity has been to focus INS resources on deporting criminals, many of whom are much more damaging to our society than your imaginary freeloaders.

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Surely, Confus(ed?), you are smarter than your obviously less than thoughtful reply to Mike would indicate.

While the term 'dead-weight' may seem a bit harsh, the point Mike was making – and that you are are not correct on – is that illegal aliens ARE a net overall drain to the U.S. economy and the bigger percentage of illegals use more social services than contribute to any tax base. Certainly even you know that the larger number of illegal aliens work in sub-standard or lower wage jobs and a greart many work in 'day-labor cash-pay' jobs. How do these people contribute to the tax base? Oh, right, by the sales taxes on their grocery purchases……

LOL….hippie

Joelwisch cites EIGHT sources to make a point and all you can do is inanely ridicule ONE of them?

The number of illegal aliens is higher than the 10.8 million(M) figure often used by DHS and other groups. Of course, there is no method of accurately measuring or reporting the total number – as illegal aliens are not prone to be easily identified.

However, if you begin at the 1986 amnesty and use the reported numbers from a variety of sources, both in the federal government and from pro-illegal support groups, you arrive a different number. Again, I cannot say with any certainty that I am absolutely accurate, but I am using their own figures.

Okay, so using 1986 as a base year, counting to 2010 would be 24 years.

The federal government has stated that between 3-4 million (M) people illegally cross the border each year – therefore…24 (years) times 3M equals 72M people (x 4M = 96M).

The Border Patrol captures and removes about 1M of these people each year, so – 24 x 1M = 24M….subtract from 72M equals 48M.

Pro-illegal alien support groups (LaRaza, MALDEF, etc) claim that at least 1M people 'self-deport' each year, so – 24 x 1M = 24M….subtract from 48M equals 24M.

As you can see, the remaining total is more than DOUBLE the estimate used by DHS and other groups.

In the interest of complete disclosure, I have been reminded that a (small) percentage of this number is people who were removed more than one time. So in fairness, I would subtract 5% from the total, but tha still leaves over 20 MILLION illegal aliens.

Additionally, this does not include the tens of thousands of persons who enter legally with a visa and remain beyond their lawful departure date.

THis would add 1-2% back into the total – but the point is that the figure used by DHS and others of 10.8 is intentionally low.

Remember that until just a couple of years ago, the number of illegal aliens was quoted as 3-5M, then slowly raised to 'perhaps as many as' 8M, then slightly modified to 'somewhere between' 8-11M, and finally settled on 10.8M.

Would anyone in the U.S stand quietly by if the government allowed the figure of 20-plus million to be publicly admitted to? Recall that it was just revealed that the White House tried to suppress the total number of barrels of oil initially released in the Gulf oil spill, so is it too hard to believe? I think not.

Oh, the best strategy for reducing the numbers of illegal aliens is to strictly enforce employer sanctions and to deny (as per the 1996 law) access to ANY social welfare services. Without a job and no food stamps, illegal aliens will just return home by themselves.

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Dave,

First, you are correct about the screen name.

Second, calling people “dead weight” dehumanizes them. Stereotyping all members of a group dehumanizes them. Demonizing all members of a group dehumanizes them. Similar tactics in the past have preceded most of history's greatest atrocities.

Second,you are making a lot of assertions that are inconsistent with what I have been reading about immigrants. Admittledly, this is not a forum for scholarly annotations, but much of what you say seems contrary to reported facts and common sense. Do you really believe that these workers are all paid in untaxed cash? Do you have any proof that all illegals use more social services than they pay in taxes?

As for your point about depressing wages, see the fifth paragraph of my earlier remarks.

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Don’t you adults have any thing better to do than insult each other? I’m 13 I know illegals are bad for the economy. Get a clue.

Lulu,

First, you are confusing debate with insults. As best I can tell, the foregoing discussion was far more substantive than most on the internet.

Second, when you are about 18, you will be surprised to discover how much the rest of us learn in a mere 5 years. One of the things that few people learn without years of experience is that the people who think they “know” something usually know much less than the people who understand their personal opinions may be mistaken.

Even though I disagree with what you assert you “know” about immigrants, it is refreshing to encounter a young person engaging in public discourse.

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Check the actual studies and stop listening to just the media and the people who dislike immigrants. The actual studies show that immigrants are not as bad as what people think they are on our economy. Do you know what an ITIN(Individual Taxpayer Identification Number) is? It is like a social security number but only used for taxes. Many immigrants do actually pay taxes and support the schools and government. I think the number was like 2/3 of immigrants pay taxes, putting money into social security knowing that they will probably never see any of that money. People rely too much on other opinions, check the facts yourself.

http://www.hks.harvard.edu/fs/gborjas/Papers/HANDBOOK.pdf

http://ctj.org/taxjusticedigest/archive/2011/04/undocumented_immigrants_pay_ta.php

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