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Elise Foley fails at very basic math.

Let's say there are 100 college slots available, and 101 people apply for those slots. And, let's say one of those is an illegal alien.

If the illegal alien is selected for a slot, that means that a citizen didn't get a slot. In other words, the illegal alien deprived the citizen of college.

The DREAM Act is anti-American: it lets illegal aliens take college away from citizens.

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as an Australian it seems like you americans are scared of everything, this is sad, america is becoming a country of pansies and liars, hey look at me i cant take a little competition in schools, oh no lets find a group to bar from college, lets blame the recession on illegals! get off your lazy asses and WORK, create jobs, build universities, if the problem here is there's not enough seats, then that means you need to build more universities, not find a group to blame for it and bar them from school, an educated country is a country that can create jobs and survive, a country that oppresses its own students is bound to fail

Stop being so scared of things and do something, someones gonna take your jobs, your class seats, and anything else if your not willing to work for it, if its not the illegals its the gypsys, or the merpeople, or the french or something like that, you are pathetic

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well the spot should go to who ever earns it. If the citizen had lower grades than the illegal why should they give him a slot?
im illegal and i DO pay taxes by the way

What about their skills does that count to you? I am pretty sure all of those citizens are not better than that illegal alien.

Illegals still cant work in this country so educating illegals not only takes away funding for legal kids from k through 12 but now you want to take away the legal kids chances of getting a better paying job, more skills, etc.

Our education budget has to be stretched alot further to educate illegals and anchor babies from ESL, bigger classes, etc and its past time we stopped doing it. The supreme court needs to reverse its 1982 ruling.

Why would you take skilled people away from poor, 3rd world countries? In the good ol' days, people like you would raid poor countries for people and goods. Now, people like you have made it easier on yourselves: invite poor people to come here and braindrain poor countries.

And, for every person covered by the DA, you can find at least several Americans with the same or better qualifications.

As should be clear by now, those who support the DA have little or no loyalty to the U.S. and (if applicable) their fellow U.S. citizens. They're willing to take valuable, finite, non-partitive resources from U.S. citizens in order to give them to foreign citizens. They're traitors in all but the legalistic sense.

Fine, pay a $500,000 fine for jumping the line and you can stay. That should pretty much cover what you have and/or will steal from Americans and legal immigrants.

Well as an Austraulia we really should kick your ass out first just like Austraulia does to illegal aliens, they have some of the most strict immigration laws in the world and rigidly enforce them.

There are millions of law abiding foreigners around the world with better skills than that illegal and they are willing to pay full tuition, why should we reject them in favor of a low skilled freeloader? And yet that happens all the time.

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If I agree to pay 500,000 for coming to the U.S as a child, would you agree to pay 500,000,000 for all your European ancestors that came undocumented to the Americas? And if anything the U.S has stole from us b/c none of family members have ever asked for welfare or any aid from the goverment. My taxes are paying for the services of lazy ass us citizens that have done nothing for this fucking country that they call their “America.” I would leave if the U.S ever fucking pays me what I have invested in this country.

Not my fault that most U.S Americans are stupid. Get the grades and schools will be looking for you like they were looking for me.

Why are you then living in our stupid country? Shouldn't you instead be living in a country with smart peope? I guess you are more stupid than Americans, those schools were just looking for an affirmative action payoff.

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This has nothing to do with you coming as a child, it has everything to do with you staying illegally as an adult.

No aid from the US government? Who paid for your K-12 education? Did you ever get in state college tuition? Nobody in your family ever received Medicaid or food stamps?

What I don't understand is why do you stay here if America is so bad?

By the way all my European ancestors were documented, my American Indian ancestors weren't.

I did paid out of state tuition. I think my parents and my older brother paid enough taxes for my 6 years in American schools. Again, we never got food stamps or medicaid. How can undocumented people get those services? I'm curious; maybe you can elaborate. By the way, the U.S hasn't given me anything because I have sweated for everything I have. I really doubt all your ancestors came documented, and I bet your American Indian ancestors didn't like the idea of your european ancestors invading and infesting the Americas.

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I don't think so. Private scholarships paid for my studies. Don't worry, I don't plan to stay and wait for the dream act. I'm in the process of leaving to another country that is willing to give me an opportunity.

yeah so thats a lie, there was no such legal way for europeans to enter the US. in fact there was an amnesty for europeans.

so they werent documented….

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I love your comment i could not agree more

you can not compare USA with Australia the truth is that this country for years take advantage from the immigrants and now because the “bad economy” you do not want them…

Tough luck you know what. They are already here and still being truth hat they are doing the jobs that most of the American do not do.This kid of politics are exploiting fear

“Illegals take away our jobs” vs “we do the jobs American don't want” is not the way to argue, Instead say this:

Legal immigrants stood in the immigration line for years to immigrate. Why should they bother with that? Don't tell me it takes too long or our immigration system don't work. This is not for you to judge when you are not a citizen. And legal immigrants do get through this long line everyday. Just go research for our yearly legal immigration rate. Illegals cut in front of all legal immigrants while they are still standing in the immigration line right now.

@ Austin Sumner

Legal immigrants also have children, they want to go to American schools and grow up to support the economy and military as well, but why do they have to stand in the immigration line for years in order to come to the US while illegals are just here when they feel like to immigrate? Is it because legal immigrants only have half of an American Dream? Or do they only have half the desire to have a better life and future for their families? Why do they have to stand in line while the illegals do not?

@mariana

Don't tell there is drug violence and poverty. What do you call that thing there for kids who live in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan? They only have some bombs everywhere and sand. But these kids are not here, YOU are.

Further, I'll let you have the excuse of “drug violence and poverty”. Illegals are here (while legal immigrants are still waiting), being here illegally, we have not much drug violence and poverty, is that enough for you? NO! Ok, we give you free K-12 education and health care, is that enough for you now? NO! 10 states give you in-state college tuition (as if you are their legal residents), is that enough for you? NO! You want Dream Act and be legalized while all legal immigrants from all over the world are still waiting in the immigration line!

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#1. This is not about immigrants, it's about illegal aliens,

“Illegal aliens are not immigrants, they are foreign intruders”

Jean Baptiste Truong, Executive Director, Immigrant Rights Foundation

#2. HA, illegal aliens have taken advantage of American taxpayers for decades now!!! They cost Americans 138 billion a year, American taxpayers never wanted them, only corrupted politicians and greedy employers did.

#3. No way are illegals doing the jobs Americans won't, that's a giant anti-American lie, last week two white American guys in front of Home Depot hit me up: “Hey boss, cheap labor here” they said.

Really, 150 years ago there was no legal immigration? Amnesty for Europeans? When? Who has been brainwashing you?

In California minor illegal aliens get those services, all across the USA children born to illegal alien receive them.

My American Indian ancestor freely married my European ancestor (a French trapper), everybody got along great at the time, both parties prospered from all the trading going on.

Did you know the Wampanog Indians gave the Pilgrims permissing to live at Plymouth Rock? They had a mutual defense agreement.

Good for you, and you know you are welcome to come back legally. Maybe you are frustrated by the long waiting times? They were caused by all the past amensties pushed by people similar to the Dreamies. See the info at http://www.immigrantrightsfoundtion.org.

Mexico Has Invaded/Sabotage The U.S Jobs Market & Economy and Increased Border Violence… Mexican government dose not stop their population when crossing South West U.S Borders. Help Legal U.S Citizens Liberate The U.S From Mexico's Government & Help End The Worlds Largest Illegal Immigrant Invasion Of Over 30 Million People… These Illegal’s Also Need To Stop All This Protesting Because They’re Just Pissing Us Off Like The Jews Did In Germany/Europe!!!

A Plan For A Real “American Dream Act” Bill & Counter Attack To Save Legal U.S Citizen From Silent Invasion:

First bring back our soldiers from this Afghanistan war that is costly and going nowhere. Middle Eastern and Asians love to see us waste money and go broke fighting for freedom when they don’t really want it. This is their main weapon and we keep falling into their trap. Then we need to regroup military troops and military force to invade/overthrow Mexico’s government turning it into a U.S territory.
The new land will be used as an industrial/business commerce zone. U.S citizens will be able to by property and have a dual citizenship between U.S and Mexico. Mexico will keep its current currency and there current government will be demoted to local municipal law enforcement as long as they surrender to the U.S.
The U.S will be in full control of all laws, finances, local law enforcement, military and our “Secondary Army of Illegal Soldiers/Enforcers” in Mexico. The path to dual citizenship will require the illegal immigrants living in the U.S to serve in the U.S Secondary South Boarder Military for teen years… Along with completing the invasion/overthrow of Mexican government to expand U.S lands, business, and revive our economy. For Mexico citizen requesting to come to the U.S temporary worker programs and legal paths to citizenship & residence will be granted to those who qualify.
This action is to liberate Mexico from its corrupt government that is destroying it self and the U.S slowly. It is also a test for them to redeem them selves for us to see, how much heart they have, how patriotic they are, and much they love this country including us, laws in all.
This Government, past & present, Republican & Democrat, have allowed this invasion of 20 to 30 million illegal aliens of which is the largest invasion of any Nation, at any time, by any means and in direct violation of Article IV Section IV of the U.S Constitution. Our government has failed the most basic and primary task & duty of government, spelled out in our Constitution Article IV Section IV to protect this Nation and its Citizens from invasion and enforce its laws.
We need real change and action on this now!
Give Central, South & Caribbean Americans Rights Reside In Mexico To Work
U.S. Constitution – Article 4 Section 4 Text Copy
Article 4 – The States
Section 4 – Republican Government
The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence.

Pass It On To Congress & The President!!!

Hahahaha!!! “everybody got along great at the time, both parties prospered from all the trading going on”. Tell that to the native americans that YOUR ancestors destroyed with smallpox. Or tell that to the now alcoholic and depressed native americans that “prospered” from YOUR european ancestors. YOUR ancestors raped and forced themselves onto the native american women so please don't bs. I say your ancestors because just like you group us all together, YOUR ancestors were all worthless pesant, uneducated, coward immigrants.

Funny how those worthless peasans, uneducated, coward immigrants managed to build a First World superpower, and your ancestors did not (I presume you are Latin American of some sort?)

You want to benefit from what they built, but you have the nerve to criticize the people who built the very things you want.

American universities were BUILT and PAID FOR by generations of American people, for their children and grandchildren, NOT for illegal immigrants. No matter how “qualified” you think you are for an American college seat, you are still parasiting off the efforts of other people.

I'm sorry that your country of origin was not able to build the kind of educational system that my ancestors built. It's truly unfortunate. But it's NOT MY FAULT, it's the fault of your ancestors, and I shouldn't have to pay for your ancestor's lack of ability.

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Oh so you want me to show my gratitude? Thank you very much Europeans, thank you for raping my ancestors, burning their villages and cities, and exterminating some of the most brilliant tribes known to man. How's that?

And as far as building a “first world superpower” goes, you do realize that your ancestors did it by exploiting African slaves right?? I don't know how your ancestors can claim to have done anything, everything that was accomplished by them was done on the backs of slaves; asian, africans, indians, and now my people. Think about it, behind every major accomplishment there is a sad story of enslaved people suffering.

And if I'm truly “parasiting”, then why do schools, that wouldn't even glance at your children, ask me and offer me money to attend? Most of the Ivy league schools are supporting the DREAM ACT….. what does that tell you?

I thought that I should add, in fear of sounding like you and people like you who feel entitled, that I am not a racist. I have many caucasian friends, and even date one, but it really just gets to me how some people lost track of the old saying: “the best man for the job” and now say: ” I was born here so I deserve it”

I think most of you argue for the sake of arguing but don't realize the harm that you are inflicting onto others. Think about your children;place them in the situation that these kids are in…. How does that feel?

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Thanks for that, I'll let my it guy know and report your ip addy to ICE. Have a nice day ;0)

If you're illegal, you're an ass for bragging about it on message boards, and, luckily, I'm just as big of an ass, my it guy will have your ip addy by the end of the day…..and so will ICE. ;0)

is this the new amnesty

first off you should thank the US for saving your asses from the japs in ww2 we dont want any dirty mexicans here and we dont want any dirty aussies here either what are you doing here anyway we dont have any sheep for you to have sex with you must be lonely

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yes they are better they are American so they are better if we were in mexico the mexican would be better a mexican has no pride I dont know he can look his family in the eye even a dog would not run over to live off the nabor just because the nabor has better stuff dont they love there country how can you sneak out on your country dont you have any shame

I know and what army in there right mind would want someone who all ready has proven they are a trader they snuck out on there very own country because the new one had better stuff what if we were fighting a country that had better stuff then us would they start dreaming again and sneak over to the other side and get all our loyal soliders killed

you are a low life thief you have no pride you snuck out on your own country in the middle of the night aren't you ashamed of your self how can you look in the mirror americans love there country they would never sneak over to mexico they have to much pride I guess its just an American thing you will never get it but you will get it and sooner then you think your time is near soon you will be forced to become part of your country the one you turned your back on even a dog would not go over to the nabors just because they had better stuff

there were 3men at an airport a cowboy an Indian and an ileagle alien the Indian said once my people were many now we are few the ileagle said once my people were few now we are many and the tall handsome cowboy said that's because we aint gotin around to playing cowboys and illegals yet but its a coming

I am glad you have sweat ed for so much stuff because the government will take it all back when you and your like get DEPORTED

then why in the world woud you and all your trader friends leave your beautlil country to live here ?????????????please xplane lier

I'll be waiting. Maybe I even get a free ride. The U.S is overrated. So many countries offer better opportunities without dealing with stupid nationalist that don't even do shit for their beloved country. I bet that I have dome more for the U.S than all you nationalist. Peace.

The Democratic Liberal virus has infected our lawmakers established with Senator Harry Reid, Senator Barbara Boxer, Speaker Nancy Pelosi, Janet Napolitano and all those incumbents are up for a renewal to Washington. Not eliminating them from the already corrupt Senate and House in Washington will be the immediate enactment of open border laws in lame duck sessions.. The-Amnesty– AGjobs, Dream Act, bringing to the US a “Chain Migration” of immediate family members, parents, Sisters, Brother, uncles and aunts. Sick and infirm can take advantage of our ailing hospitals, education for their children–that will be a taxpayers demise. Amnesty for all those already here, which means massive processing of documentation that will also cost billions of dollars. Jerry Brown Vs. Meg Whitman is another political battle, as old Jerry Brown would promote another Amnesty, while Madam Whitman stated–NO AMNESTY.

Then there's San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom, Democratic Liberal candidate for lieutenant governor of California, never tried to halt the 'Sanctuary City” policy of San Francisco and stopping the police from questioning the national status of people, living in San Francisco. Nobody who has established their image of a pro-illegal immigrant should hold office? Money will pour out for illegal alien public entitlements by the billions of dollars, legally for the hundreds of instant baby citizenship, then illegally for bogus ID documents as the scam carries on unceasingly while 15 million Americans remain jobless. Remember Reid emasculated E-Verify to a voluntary verification legal workers computer program.

There is not enough room in my comments to explain the how this issue of illegal immigration–effects us all. But as I have constantly repeated, do your own investigation of those politicians who have appalling immigration records at NumbersUSA, GOOGLE–Illegal alien costs or Voter Fraud. Illegal aliens will try to affect the course of the midterm elections by violating the voting laws–specifically absentee ballots, as they do not need to appear in person. As I have stated America cannot afford any Democrats or Republicans who think we can keep on giving amnesty, to just about anybody? This will eventually lead to overpopulation, water shortages, energy disruption and loss of environment open land Even now water is in short supply in California and other border states.

I didn't leave my “beautiful country”, you infested it during the 15th century…….

It was you Spanish who did all that infecting and raping, not the French and English.

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Spaniards are Spanish. The Spanish, French, and English are all Europeans, they are all the same except for the language. They raped our people like your ancestors raped Africans and Indians. If you are going to be racist at least know your history.

This coming from a country who discriminates against their minority race the Aborigines??? People who live in glass houses should not throw stones!!!

Illegal immigration grossly creates discrimination against African Americans by taking their jobs, by taking their educational resource funding for ESL classes, and making African Americans invisible as second class citizens. This has been going on for years since the major influx of illegal immigration. Illegal immigrants are taking advantage of the discrimination and non enforcement of the laws that were designed to protect African Americans.

the African Americans were forced to come here as slaves. they worked and helped build this country while being treated as property. They were denied their right of land, were held in slavery well after the law, were given rights and declared citizens without any justice in upholding them, and still have not received any apologies for slavery violation of rights the reparations the Tuskegee mess and the blatent and gross discrimination today.

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U.S. Americans have suffered in schools by having numerous programs cut to support the ESL classes for illegal immigrants. The U.S. Americans would be extremely better off educational wise with all of their funding for schools restored.

My man, please don't feed into the white folks strategy to have us fight for the bottom. As minorities in this country controlled by racist white folk, we need to unite and fight for whats fair. I was born and raised in south central l.a. and have now lived in Baltimore, MD for six years, All of my friends are black, I love them like brothers and sisters and they love me back. Please don't make it seem like we can't live together in peace. Remember back in the 50s and 60s Che Guevara was the only person that publicly supported Malcolm X during the civil right movement.

It is not feeding into a strategy. Since the formation of this country from the time African Americans were slaves everyone including immigrants have benefited from the unfair and discriminatory treatment of African Americans. This is 2010 and now you feel that my rights aren't valid to stand up and demand for justice. African Americans have suffered greatly while other immigrants and the illegal immigrants prosper from the oppression. If you truly call them your brothers you would want to see justice and support this that has been denied for so long verses seeing a group of people who recently came here illegally getting more support and justice than African Americans who have yet to be made whole for equal rights

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When and how has the best man for the job ever worked for African Americans??? Even African Americans have to work twice as hard in school to get the grades as others are able to do. The illegal immigrants are entitled to advanced English proficiency classes(which means college level assistance) while African Americans are denied assistance. If the statement of the best man for the job was true then why are a majority of African Americans not hired for these jobs vs illegal immigrants???

ok so let me get this right, so because African Americans have suffered from the unjust in the past you think that it's ok to now do it to another race? kinda like balancing things out right? And come on man, I'm from the hood and I know like you know that it is a fact that there are some jobs that African Americans refuse to do. Jobs like picking watermelonsm, cleaning the machines used to kill poultry in chicken plants, and so on. Haven't you notice that illegal immigrants do the jobs that your ancestors used to do?

The suffering of African Americans is going on right now. Your ignorance to conclude that it was in the past is ridiculous. Take a look at the unemployment data as you can see African Americans have the highest rate. If you look further you will see that data effecting African American unemployment, schools, and income has proved that the influx of illegal immigration has disparaged the African American. I am further disgusted by the fact that when ever illegal immigration is mentioned it pertains only to agriculture. When in fact it includes all forms of business: hospitals, restaurants, construction, roofing, landscaping, clerical, etc. Yes these are all jobs that African Americans are qualified and entitled too as U.S. citizens. Also did you not notice that there are alot of African American farmers still waiting to be compensated for being excluded for years from the USDA.

C'mon now you're just being over dramatic, “the suffering of the african americans now”… what suffering? both of our races live in the same ghettos so we both feel the impact of the recession equally…..Yes, I agree the landscape is still unfair for african americans but I think you are just trying to find someone to blame for your misfortunes. Rather than blaming immigrants why don't you motivate and encourage other african americans to pursue higher education so that you don't have to fight with illegal immigrants for these bottom feeding jobs that nobody else wants to do.

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Learn how to spell, then maybe you can comment….IGNORANT! You're just as ignorant as many “legals” are. Maybe that's all it is, maybe that's why you don't support the DREAM act, because you fear. You fear being surpassed by us “illegals”. I'm sorry a Social Security card doesn't always come with a brain. Good luck on the hating, because the DREAM act will pass…. like it or not. =)

Learn to HOW TO SPELL!!! ha ha ha..

Ha Ha Ha… it is HILARIOUS to read all of your retarded comments!!! “lier” ha ha ha…. It's LIAR you MORON!

In response to Cagarcia136. Having blue collar jobs in America as a U.S. citizen does not mean we have not went to college. Every one should always want to gain knowledge. Also a lot of blue collar jobs require some college or trade school. For someone claiming to have African American friends you certainly must be a closet bigot to assume that all African Americans who work physical jobs/blue collar jobs are uneducated. Some African Americans have taken these jobs because of the racism in applying for other prestigious jobs. Regardless of that fact these jobs are just as important to citizens of the U.S. and illegal immigrants are not entitled to take these jobs away from U.S. citizens especially the African Americans. How do you expect an oppressed race to achieve upward mobility when they cannot even get their foot in the door when these jobs are taken by illegal immigrants. And when is it ok for African Americans to be considered the same as illegal immigrants in their rights or justice? African Americans are citizens of the United Staes their heritage started at the formation of this country they did not show up here 20 something years ago. Also do not try to justify your own plight with African Americans which has been happening since the formation of this country. Stop riding the back of their civil rights when in fact it is selective discrimination against U.S. citizens in which you chose to ignore.

There is no moral imperative to allow people to come here illegally for their own economic benefit. If you want to help people of other countries improve their lot, there are ways to do that that don't require breaking US laws. If there is any moral imperative regarding illegal immigration, it is not advantage those who jumped the line over those who followed the rules to come here. How do you explain to someone who waited years to immigrate here legally that we look the other way while millions gain jobs by slipping over the border? That's the outrage here.

Millions have come from Mexico illegally ,have overstayed visas and stolen across our borders like sneak thieves, disrespecting our laws, culture and citizens. They are anarchists, further breaking our laws by using stolen Social Security numbers, fraudulent identity documents, driving without valid licenses or insurance, lying on I-9 forms and taking American jobs in an unholy alliance with criminal employers. They suck services and tax dollars from our economy and could care less about the very real and very extensive economic damage they have caused to American workers through lost jobs and reduced wages. They are dishonest with poor integrity and tarnished character. They have proven themselves to be unworthy of the most valuable citizenship in the world. The same holds true for illegal aliens of all nations.

“Every one should always want to gain knowledge”. Alright so don't you see how you contradict yourself there? That's what we are arguing about here, not about jobs, economy, or who was here first, the dream act is directed towards kids that want to gain knowledge and educate themselves regardless of their parents mistakes. How could you as an African American sit there good and tell another group of people ” you're not good enough to pursue and education” and you talk about a closet bigot?? Why do you think that most of the civil right activists that marched with Dr. Martin Luther King back this legislation? I can assure that there are no illegal immigrants working in the the corporate world and that should be the only door that African Americans should try to get their foot into; not working in the kitchen of a KFC. And don't start this argument with me about African Americans being here when this nation was formed because my ancestors were here long before then. Stop riding the back of past injustices that were done to your race a long time ago and using that as an excuse every time that something doesn't go your way. Oh and by the way what makes you, as a human being, any better than an illegal immigrant.

The dream act is directed to providing to give illegal immigrants a choice of going to college or the military before becoming citizens. U.S. citizens have to register their sons regardless of going to college for the military. All of these people who are illegal immigrants could have went and applied to be citizens before they came here just like the legal immigrants have did. If their was a problem in their own country these illegal immigrants should have addressed it. They are not refugees that the U.S. recognized, they came here illegally. This country the U.S. has policies in place to protect it's citizens and the U.S. Constitution was made to protect the U.S. citizens. A citizen's rights are violated by the pursuit of happiness, discriminating against national origin(U.S. citizen), race(U.S. citizens (African Americans and others)) and liberty when illegal immigrants take jobs, use resources, and educational resources. As an American citizen we have the right to work any job that we want. We are entitled to our rights. Oh and those KFC jobs and other jobs that you feel you are entitled to in the U.S. used to be filled with teenagers, retired people, and working mothers. Some of the African American teens who worked these jobs provided an income for them in high school and they were able to use this as a reference for future jobs( upward mobility). You keep mentioning about before the country/government/U.S. was formed. Read the Constitution and who it protects is U.S. citizens. It is you who feel that you have standing and rights in a country that you are not a citizen of. My questions to you would be why do you constantly try to demand your rights here without becoming a U.S. citizen to get those rights? It sounds like you want us as a country to benefit you in any way possible by creating more oppression to our African Americans. You can try to argue it any way you want but I know if the oppression and selective discrimination against African Americans were brought up in a court of law against illegal immigration illegal immigrants would have no standing or justification because by doing so would violate the laws and the U.S. Constitution. No U.S. citizen can have their rights abridged. It is not about being better it is about our country and the laws that are in place to protect citizens. I think you already know this though and if you do not you do now.

The Dream Act or any other amnesty/legalization program will not be enacted because it is illogical to reward lawbreakers and simultaneously punish those who wait patiently in their own countries and respect our laws from the get-go. To reward people already committing a multitude of law violations (illegal entry, identity fraud, perjury, immigration fraud, illegal presence, overstaying a visa, driving without a license, etc.) who do not value the rule of law is to invite more and more illegal entrants/overstays. Just look what happened after the “one time only” legalization program of 1986. Now we have as many as 5 times more here illegally. Yet another legalization program outside of our already generous legal immigration system would be disastrous.

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@Gittarman45 You say “Dirty Mexicans” Im pretty sure I can call you A RACIST! What about legal Mexican immigrants? Oh wait your talking about Mexicans a whole? DICK!

That Ad really capitalized on the word ILLEGAL lol. Over 80% of our nations crops are picked by ILLEGALS. Lets deport them all and then throw our economy in an even worst state. All we have to do is alert Homeland security OH WAIT! they already know where they are yet they arent deporting them HMMM? maybe its because they know the bad outcome. However this is more of an issue about AGjobs.

I personally support the Dream Act. IT IS NOT AN AMNESTY and less than 1 Million would benefit if they earn it. It does not apply to the parents of the undocumented students and It also helps our Military. In fact there are plenty of undocumented soldiers in our military yet they still wont get legal status =[. I am not saying that I support illegal immigration however this Act only applies to a portion of the issue which is a GOOD FIRST STEP.

As far as the whole “well how do they pass the good moral part since they broke the law and are illegal” argument well I guess people have a point. LETS CRIMINALIZE ALL THE LITTLE CHILDREN WHO WERE BROUGHT HERE THROUGH NO FAULT OF THEIR OWN?
Obviously they should not be penalized and if they are then I guess this country has turned into one inhabited by emotionless ROBOTS

BTW I get that we are in bad shape right now, but I dont see Republicans proposing bills to reform Immigration and well THE PROBLEM WONT GO AWAY IF WE IGNORE IT. At least the Dream Act is trying to evoke change by bringing the issue more attention. Kind of like how SB1070 did except this bill wont get me pulled over for having Brown skin lol

Yes lets punish the little 7 year old girl across my street. TAKE HER TO JAIL! wooo! lol (sarcasm =P)

BTW did you know that most of the LEGAL immigrants are upper middle class who own property (which apparently is needed in Mexico in order to get a VISA) however not that many Mexicans own. My Cousins from Mexico never visit me, instead I have to visit them because they can never get a visa. Maybe just maybe many Illegals resorted to coming here illegally because they had no other way. SO YES Reforming immigration also includes reforming the way we give out Visas.

I agree that the 1986 program was a bad one. SO LETS LEARN FROM OUR MISTAKES =]

Its not that easy to come to the U.S legally. I hear it is a very tough and long process especially for those in Mexico (they have the strictest enforcement when it comes to entering the country legally).

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Check this article about the picture used in the AD, it seems that Sharon Angle showed a picture of ACTUAL MEXICAN CITIZENS IN MEXICO. Plus the photographer knows she used it out of context.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/10/republicans-scary-immigrant-photo-depicts-mexicans-mexico-photographer-reveals/

I agree with u Cagarcia136, African American why do u think illigals are the cause of why blacks are discriminated and treated unfair??? dont u think illigals are goin through the same thing? u blaming the wrong people here. There is no war between minorities, there is peace. Together we can both fight for our own rights. There are sill many places in souther US where white racist supremecy groups hate people of color…..mainly blacks. Dont you think these are the people that discriminate and treat u unfair??? Think about what ur sayin, if u really think that illegal immigrants are the reason why african americans have it hard in this country, you arent really an african american…..

If I get a pet chihuahua from Mexico without papers will he become a citizen too if he attends puppy training?

wow… its really sad how people talk with shoes on thier feet maybe they should try being barefoot for once

Are you really COMPARING A DOG WITH AN ACTUAL HUMAN BEING? DICK!

a dog has more pride then an ileagle invader a dog would not sneak over to live at the neighbors house just because the nebor has better stuff a dog is loyal has pride and dont ever compare a criminal ileagle invader to a dog dogs are good

you should read a book by father patrick bascio he tells how ileagle imigrents devastated the black families in harlem how many fathers left there families in sham because the jobs they once held are being stolen by people who schould not be in the country in the frist place

and getting a loan at a bank is also hard but ileagle imagrent thinking is then get a gun and steal the money

Obviously you have not read the freaking article because if you did then you would know we are talking about the kids who were brought here without their consent through no fault of their own.

Is a little 7 year old girl who was brought here illegally a CRIMINAL, should we throw her in jail. At least the illegal immigrant students raised here can SPEAK AND WRITE IN ENGLISH PROPERLY!

How about you write proper English? Remember we are talking about the good immigrants who should not be punished. Do not lump the criminal drug smuggling immigrants with those that have done nothing wrong except grow up in America without legal documents (through no fault of their own).

In the mid 1800s there was a lot of job competition between African Americans, Mexican Americans, and Native Americans. What they all have in common is that they were take advantage of and mistreated by the white men because back then they thought they were Elite. So why are you trying to blame the Mexicans for taking African American slave jobs? Do you even hear yourself talk? There is this thing people do often, think before you speak.

whats up lucy you lonley has ICE deported ricky on you you can dream all you want it will never pass hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahaahahand come november when we get all the anti ileagle invaders in office you wll all be sent homehahahahahahahahahahaah

Unfortunately, not all people that would like to come to the United States can. We have limits for a reason. But you are wrong about the types of legal immigrants to our country. Most green cards are for family-based immigration, and those recipients have in general very low education levels and wealth levels. In fact, Mexicans are one of the top receipients of green cards. I believe 17% of green cards in a recent year were given to Mexican immigrants.

The point that I was trying to make is that rewarding illegal behavior only leads to more illegal behavior. Amnesties are an incentive fore more illegal immigration.

Yes I completely agree with you. What I meant about the upper class legal immigrants is that they usually come here for short periods of types for shopping and for the better hospitals.

Yes Mexico gets a lot of green cards, but the process is still a tough and long one and I believe that it is because a high percentage of immigrants come from Mexico. It makes sense that we try to limit immigrants from Mexico. And Yes Amnesty would encourage illegal immigration, however The Dream Act is not a form of Amnesty. In fact less than 100,000 would benefit.

Ed, if the 100,000 figure were true I would believe it, but have you read the criteria for the dream act? It accepts people up to 35 years old. Those are not children. Also, there is no requirement for graduation from a university, and the children can petition for their family members. The estimates I've seen are over 2 million not counting any family members that could be petitioned. I would be for it if the number could be strictly limited to 100,000 with no ability to petition for family members. But proponents even write about the dream act as a “first step.” First step to a general amnesty???

Originally the age was much lower than 35, but Republicans made sure to change the age because the bill was not getting passed since its first introduction in 2001. Now we must take into consideration that those who qualify and are 35 have been here since the age of 16 so this is their home plus do you really think we will be seeing hundreds of people in their 30s going to college? (remember that they must have been here since the age of 16 and must have attended high school here).
As for the whole petitioning part, I keep hearing about this from other comments, however I have read the bill many times and have found no such thing? Maybe I missed it or something. I dont think it would have gotten so far last year if that was the case? I certainly would oppose it because then it would be a form of Amnesty? Could you please tell me or direct me to where I can find this information?

Let's say there are 100 college slots available, and 101 people apply for those slots. And, let's say one of those is an illegal alien.

Then the undocumented student worked harder unless this is all based on luck instead of merit

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yes lets all protect the invisible lines we have in a map. whatever happen to my land is your land? oh yea Racism happen. Really theres murder, rape, and war but we all focus on so called 'illegals” Ask yourself isnt your fore fathers immigrants too? Were they deported? Did your fore fathers commit crime as they wanted to start a new life here?

yes lets all protect the invisible lines we have in a map. whatever happen to my land is your land? oh yea Racism happen. Really theres murder, rape, and war but we all focus on so called 'illegals” Ask yourself isnt your fore fathers immigrants too? Were they deported? Did your fore fathers commit crime as they wanted to start a new life here?

and lets say that illegal has better grades then the rest? which usually happens…

you should let a person achieve goals by merits and not a number, but I bet your so use to that with todays politics

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