Senators Gripe About DREAM Act, Will Likely Still Vote for Defense Bill

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Wednesday, September 15, 2010 at 4:34 pm

Some Republican senators, along with centrist Democrats, aren’t happy with Harry Reid’s decision to slip the DREAM Act into a defense authorization bill up for a vote next week — and they are arguing it could kill the bill, although none have explicitly said they plan to vote against it.

“It’s made it needlessly controversial,” Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell said yesterday. “I can’t tell you right now how easy it will be to go forward with that bill, but it’s certainly created an element of controversy that would not have been otherwise there.”

Will opposition to the DREAM Act, which would help some illegal immigrant students become legal residents, actually stop the bill? It’s unclear, but politicians are generally averse to voting down major defense legislation. Last year, Sen. Carl Levin (D-Mich.) successfully added language that expanded protections for hate crimes to the defense authorization bill. Republicans were angry, but approved it anyway.

Still, senators argued adding the DREAM Act is a misuse of the bill. “It’s totally unrelated to the defense authorization bill,” Sen. John Thune (R-S.D.) bristled yesterday.

“This is an all-time low for me being in the Senate and that’s saying something,” Lindsey Graham told Foreign Policy’s The Cable yesterday. “The one area that has been kept off limits from partisan politics has been the defense of our nation. To say that you’re going to bring up a defense bill and put the Dream Act on it … to me is very offensive.”

Some Democrats have joined in the threats. Sen. Ben Nelson (D-Neb.) said today Reid may lose his support for the defense authorization bill if the DREAM Act is added.

“It would depend on a lot of factors, but it certainly would make it that much more difficult to support something such as the defense authorization bill,” Nelson said. “Don’t do it.”

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Comment posted September 15, 2010 @ 9:22 pm

Why is anything off limits? They used defense to push wiretaps, loosely defined enemy combatants, and breach of due process through under the guise of being patriotic. Nothing is sacred in a cauldron of liars and thieves like them.


Djsojd55562
Comment posted September 15, 2010 @ 9:26 pm

What difference would it make if the DREAM ACT is passed next week or passed a year from now. The only reason Republicans are against it, is they don't want it to pass period. How do these folks sleep at night using the 'AMERICAN PEOPLE' to advance their own political agenda. Secure the border, secure the border, the MEXICANS ARE COMING! In 2007 when the border was less secure they voted for the immigration bill, now with it actually being more secured, more funding, more technology they still complain. Now, it's the economy when Americans are out of work. Well, I ask you this when Americans were enjoying raising home prices, when the stock market was seeing no ceiling in sight, when jobs were flourishing WHAT MY FRIENDS were the argument for not passing the bill then. FACT is, one group have always tried to hold the latest group of immigrants down. Keep in mind the undocumented immigrants are not just from Mexico. They are from Canada, Ireland, France, Germany, Italy, Australia, and all parts of Asia and the African continent. Why educate these student from birth to age 18 and then tell them this is not THEIR AMERICAN also? Think about telling that to your high school child ready for college. They he was born in France and really is not an American or can never be President because he was not born in America. How would he feel, how would you feel these kids have lots of potential. THE DREAM ACT is about an opportunity, a chance to really make something out of life. This is AMERICA FREEDOM FOR ALL NOT SOME. We lose sight of that, HER very foundation is compromised. We are better than this or are we? The answer lies within what you truly believe America is about.


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Shirley Lake
Comment posted September 15, 2010 @ 11:33 pm

How can we look are kids in eye and tell them that their are not jobs for them when they graduate from college. Their parents made a mistake. We as Americans are not obligated to make that right. No Amnesty, Any politician who is foolish enough to let the Dream Act pass will be saying good-bye to their political careers. We cannot take care of the entire world, we can barely take care of ourselves. This country is in sorry shape.


Shirley Lake
Comment posted September 15, 2010 @ 11:36 pm

Oh and someone will come on this site and call me a racist or bigot. If in fact that is the case, look at yourself in the mirror because the problem is not with me it is with you. To make something right, you do not add another mistake. No jobs now. We have returning military. They are entitled to any available jobs.


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MMaria
Comment posted September 16, 2010 @ 12:26 am

@Djsojd55562 don't what world you are living in or what fanatsy drug you are on but our borders are NOT more secure. Come live on the AZ border for a while. Billions on billions given in aid to foreign countries and a measly 60 million to fix our broken border. One area you are right about is just because it is the Mexico border that is the biggest problem for us it does not mean the ILLEGAL immigrant problem is just about one country or one skin color. ILLEGAL is not a race. NO AMNESTY. NO DREAM ACT until we can fully educate our own children, My child who is a citizen of this country has no guarentee of a college education any where so why should an illegal immigrants child have more rights than mine!


Patval1986
Comment posted September 16, 2010 @ 12:34 am

your an idiot maybe your child should study harder


Djsojd55562
Comment posted September 16, 2010 @ 1:29 am

me me me you're on the fantasy drugs my friend. Fact is if American's didn't use drugs, there would not be a market for it in the USA. You big cry baby. This is not about you or your kid, and as the person said maybe your child should work harder. Nobody is asking for a handout with the DREAM ACT. Those kids don't want your money, they want a chance. Are you that much un-American you can't understand that's what American is about.


Djsojd55562
Comment posted September 16, 2010 @ 1:32 am

It's in sorry shape because of the cry babies like you. You walk into walmart and buy your food, clothes or stores that thrive on the backs of immigrant labor and then talk like that. The wine industry alone is running on the backs of undocumented migrant labor, picking the fruits each and everyday so fools like you can stuff your guts. Get a life another cry baby


Ism3x
Comment posted September 16, 2010 @ 1:38 am

Such a misleading article. But at least I am glad some Republicans don’t buy it and actually ask real question.
I am an illegal youth and you owe me nothing. In fact, we want this bill to pass to prove to you we want to help the American citizen. It would take a decade to actually become a citizen, and many people will be filtered out. Because they will register for the Dream Act, they will be deported if they do not pass the tests. Many of us are actually moderate in ideology. But we find ourselves being defending by liberals. I can tell you that even if you kick me out of what I believe to be my homeland, I would still support the deportation of other illegals. You don’t know the illegal experience, I do. Out of the 12 million illegals only a few hundred thousand are actually Dream act Americans. The rest of the people have abused the country by feeding from their US born children, without ever learning the language, culture or surrender to the flag. Some even say we would send money to Mexico but what you don’t get is that in our minds we are Americans and have no interest in Mexico or our country of birth. Main Einstein can explain to you that sometimes perception is more important than say being born in Panama like McCain.


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StokeyBob
Comment posted September 16, 2010 @ 4:12 am

Dream Act???

Why the special treatment?

Some of us once had dreams of our own.

Back in the 60’s the Federal Government came into the public schools and brainwashed us as little children with the message that the children we were about to have were unwanted because the population was rising so fast. They launched a program called, “Zero Population Growth”. They pushed Family Planning and birth control pills. Now they call the same programs, “Safe Sex” but the results are the same. I think you and I both know that you only have to trick people for their few child bearing years and there is no going back.

Many of us never had a say in the future of our unborn.

I am the result of two living cells. One from each of my parents. They are the result of two living cells, one from each of their parents. I wasn't just born. I am a continuation of life. I am a living thing that reaches back into time perhaps 400 million years and the result of billions of joining of pairs of cells. It is possible that if you were to follow my cells back to my parent’s cells and beyond that my family tree touches every living thing here on earth. That is if we limit ourselves to believing life was created here on earth. If it rained down from the immensity of the universe it could reach back into that immensity of time and space, and who knows what relationships and who knows what species.

My family line succeeded, at least until I came up against the Federal Government and their plan to control the population.

I have seen the Federal Government do little else to control the population.

The open border, United States laws only apply to some, is a serious slap in the face. No, not a slap in the face, it reaches well beyond that. Maybe back to the beginning of time and stretch to the bounds of the universe.


Brittrio
Comment posted September 16, 2010 @ 4:28 am

A quick way to make the dream act more palatable would be to also embrace non-resident but here in the US legally children,namely E2 children.Here in the US by way of their parents E2 small business visa they grow up both educationally and culturally as Americans. Sadly the E2 visa has no pathway to LPR (green card status).

An estimated 50,000 plus would either immediately qualify or fit the framework of the bill if it were to allow legals to also apply.For now though they simply age-out of their parents visa coverage upon reaching 21 years of age.

Interesting to see if some senators will seek to support and improve the prospects and lives of similarly impacted young people but who happen to be legal!


Jbaltazar03
Comment posted September 16, 2010 @ 4:53 am

All these kids are asking for is a chance. Why not give it to them, whats wrong with letting someone reach their potential i thought that was what America stood for. I just dont get why there's so many people complaining not to let the dream act pass to me it just sounds like them being a bunch of cry babies, some of these kids are engineering students some are premed, there's all types are you really that scared of their potential that you're gonna deny them a shot.


Erock
Comment posted September 16, 2010 @ 5:47 am

I completely agree with your comment.


Jjamaya1
Comment posted September 16, 2010 @ 5:59 am

Pass the DREAM Act. Its only fair. We can't punish these students for being here undocumented. They were brought as babies. Like Durbin said, “If you arrest someone for speeding, and they have a baby behind them, you don't charge the baby for speeding.” It would be illogical. These students are students that have graduated from high school. They have excelled in the educational system. Some of them even want to go to the Army and with the DREAM Act, they would be able to risk their lives for America the land they love. PASS The DREAM ACT!!!!


Sean Woo
Comment posted September 16, 2010 @ 6:19 am

DREAM Act is included in the Department of Defense’s FY2010-12 Strategic Plan to help the military “shape and maintain a mission-ready All Volunteer Force”. DREAM Act would allow those who meet all eligibility requirements, serve in the U.S. armed forces for at least two years and maintain “good moral character” to obtain regular lawful permanent resident status after six years. Many Military experts have come out in support of the DREAM Act because it would significantly increase the pool of qualified recruits in the Latino population, which comprises the majority of undocumented immigrants and which research indicates are more likely to enlist and serve in the military than any other group.


John Petrow
Comment posted September 16, 2010 @ 6:29 am

I hate Republicans, they discriminate against hispanics, blacks, jews, and muslims. There are millions american rednecks who sit on welfare and do drugs, but Republicans are against lagalizing youth who will become educated or serve this country?


FedUpWithUSGovt
Comment posted September 16, 2010 @ 7:02 am

FACTS about the “Nightmare” Act –

FACT – This bill is NOT just for teens and college students. Senate DREAM bill allows you to be up to 35 years old to qualify. House bill has NO upper limit!

FACT – Bill is open to gigantic fraud. The bill is written so that the 2, 3 or 4 million illegal-alien applicants only have to CLAIM to meet the criteria. They don't have to PROVE anything.

FACT – This amnesty has no enforcement measures at all. It allows employers to continue to hire illegal aliens, enticing millions more parents to bring their children here illegally and stay long enough for them to become high school students and demand another amnesty in a few years.

FACT – DREAM leaves intact the chain migration system that will allow these 2.1+ million illegal aliens to eventually send for millions more relatives. A large percentage of the illegal aliens in the U.S. today are extended family members of the illegal aliens who got amnesty in 1986 and also those in the six more-limited amnesties in the 1990s.

WAKE UP AMERICA! Our elected officials are selling us RIGHT DOWN the river, and feeding us the lies necessary to pass this KRAP legislation. Call your Congressman ASAP and stop this from passing !!!!


Megaman789
Comment posted September 16, 2010 @ 7:17 am

americans can rot in hell for all i care, stupid bleaced crackers


melissa seepersaud
Comment posted September 16, 2010 @ 11:24 am

this entire immigration issue is so sad cause these are real people with real lives who just want a shot to better themselves. Can't imagine being illegal and then having politicans deciding on your future… they have all these people lives and future in there hands and thinks nothing of it….. really disappointed but then again i have no faith in politicans. Its albout votes votes votes ,their career and pockets while america slips in the shadows. Every decision they make is for themselves not the country or the people


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Ali Alexander
Comment posted September 16, 2010 @ 3:42 pm

Melissa, does it occur to you that AMERICANS are real people with real lives–lives which are harmed by the presence of illegal aliens? Who do you think has been losing jobs to the parents of these “kids”? Who do you think has been providing the “free” healthcare and educations for them–while our own suffer? If these kids want a “better life”, then let them look to their home countries for it. Mexico, for example, is a wealthy country, home to the world's richest man–yet it won't provide “better lives” for its own people?!


Ali Alexander
Comment posted September 16, 2010 @ 3:43 pm

And you wonder why we don't want to amnesty illegal aliens? What racists you are. Thinking that you're above the laws of this country.


Ali Alexander
Comment posted September 16, 2010 @ 3:45 pm

Some people might not consider it “punishment” to go back to their homelands.

Furthermore, plenty of American kids feel the consequences when THEIR parents break the law. Why shouldn't these? What makes them SPECIAL?


Ali Alexander
Comment posted September 16, 2010 @ 3:48 pm

Tell us–who needs engineers and doctors more. The US or Mexico or some other Third World country? Fact is, the countries these kids are from need them far more than we do.

There are plenty of people waiting to come here LEGALLY who deserve it far more than these kids do. Furthermore, the Dream Act would enable legalized “kids” to then sponsor the very people who broke the law to bring them here.

Tell you what. Make it a condition that the parents of these kids return to their homelands, never to come here again, and we'll consider amnestying the kids. Otherwise, all we'd get would be more illegal aliens trying the same thing.


Ali Alexander
Comment posted September 16, 2010 @ 3:49 pm

Chances are, the kids you talk of aren't Hispanic. This a stunt to try to get Hispanic votes.


Ali Alexander
Comment posted September 16, 2010 @ 3:54 pm

Unfortunately, this bill makes no distinctions among illegal alien “youth”. It applies to people up to age 35 who need only CLAIM that they were brought here before age 16. The education requirements are minimal and contrary to what you say, there are NO provisions for enforcement. (Given how the Obama Administration is enforcing existing laws, you can bet NO illegal would be deported short of committing murder.) Even gang members would qualify if they claim to reject the gang. The final straw is that legalized illegal aliens would then be able to sponsor the very people who brought them here illegally and other relatives.

If bright illegal aliens want to go to school here, then they should return to their home countries before age 18 1/2 and apply for a student visa. Otherwise, it's up to you and your parents to figure how to deal with the problem your parents created for you.


Ali Alexander
Comment posted September 16, 2010 @ 3:56 pm

If drugs were the cause of Latin America's problems, then wouldn't our northern neighbor, CANADA, have the same problems? Fact is, your problems are because of YOUR OWN CORRUPTION and your OWN POVERTY. It might occur to you that the two are interlinked. Mexico is a wealthy country, so how is it that so many of its people live in poverty.


melissa seepersaud
Comment posted September 16, 2010 @ 5:52 pm

Ali, it's funny how people weren't complaining before but now the shit has hit the fan and everyone is pointing fingers at these people when in fact the people on wall street are the ones who are responsible , its because of greed that's why were in this position. I'M not justifying entering this country illegal is right or it should continue but it's only fair that these people be treated fairly and humanely. Your so full of anger and hate that you can't see straight


Ali Alexander
Comment posted September 16, 2010 @ 6:07 pm

The Dream Act has been proposed a dozen times since 2001. It has yet to pass for the simple reason that most Americans don't want and both parties know it.

The Dream Act is the “thin edge of the wedge” to legalizing all illegal aliens. As it is, it would legalize more than 2 million illegal alien “children” plus their parents–and who knows how many more illegal aliens who'd bring their kids here illegally for just this purpose. The Dream Act seeks to use the most “sympathetic” of illegal aliens, “children”, to try to convince us that WE'RE at fault if we don't want amnesty “for the children”. The fact is, the situation of this kids is the fault of their parents and it is up to their parents to deal with it. We're already told that we must accept the births of anchor babies to illegal aliens and that they're citizens. Now, it's any “child” born anywhere whom we're supposed to accept–and eventually their parents. Sorry, but this assault on American citizenship and rights of Americans to decide who we will admit and who we won't has simply made people fed up.


Ali Alexander
Comment posted September 16, 2010 @ 6:13 pm

My, my, my. Fact is, most illegal aliens are undercutting Americans and American wages to do those jobs you mention. And they and their employers are subsidized by American taxpayers, starting with K-12 educations for these “cry babies” demanding the Dream Act.

The fact is, most illegal aliens do NOT work in agriculture, but alongside Americans in jobs Americans and legal immigrants are and will do. Even in agriculture, do you really think that employers couldn't find legal workers IF they were to raise wages? But why do that, when you can get illegal alien labor? Legalize the illegal aliens, and agriculture would cry for still more illegal aliens and “guest workers”–even though it's refused to use the existing guest worker programs. Fact is, agricultural workers on average have an income far below poverty level–largely because there are so many of them willing to work cheap. Cesar Chavez knew that the constrant availabiliy of illegal alien labor undercut his efforts to organize the UFW and negotiate with employers. I guess today's illegal aliens are too stupid to realize that they're re-creating the same situation as in their homelands–too many uneducated unskilled workers for too few jobs.

And by the way, the usual lament is that we “need” illegal aliens to do the work that Americans won't do. Now, it seems, we should legalize illegal aliens so that we can pay for their college educations so they can do the work that Americans most definitely are and will do. Somehow, it doesn't sound the same.


Ali Alexander
Comment posted September 16, 2010 @ 6:18 pm

People, such as illegal aliens, who don't behave “fairly” shouldn't expect “fairness”. We can and should “humanely” deport them to their home countries. My concern is to behave fairly and humanely to those who do the same–other Americans and to legal immigrants and students who respect our laws and wait their turn. I can see perfectly straight. It's you who have blinders on to the very real fact that amnesty has only led to more illegal immigration, and that citizens are suffering because they're losing jobs while 5-7 million illegal aliens still have them.

Tell you what–let the Dream Act require that the PARENTS of these kids return to their home countries, never to be able to return here, BEFORE the kids get amnesty, and even I might go along with it. To do otherwise is simply unfair to Americans and to legal immigrants and students.


Ali Alexander
Comment posted September 16, 2010 @ 6:23 pm

We've got news for you. There are lots of illegal aliens who get welfare on behalf of their U.S. born kids. 30% of the welfare recipients in California, which has the largest number of welfare recipients in the country, are in households headed by illegal aliens.

By the way, I'm a DEMOCRAT, a labor Democrat, and amnesty is contrary to the interests of the party's traditional constituency, blue collar workers. You know–the guys who are losing jobs to illegal aliens or seeing their wages cut.

As for discrimination, that's rich, considering that Reid is pushing this now in order to appeal to the HISPANIC vote because of course, those most likely to benefit from the Dream Act are Hispanic illegal aliens. Now, why is that? Because some people are so racist as to believe that SOME ethnic groups shouldn't have to follow the laws of this country.


Ali Alexander
Comment posted September 16, 2010 @ 6:27 pm

Tell you what–let ONLY those kids who join the military and serve honorably get amnesty and we'll buy it. As it is, we end up paying for the college educations of illegal alien kids while our own kids struggle. Furthermore, the Act has minimal education and verification requirements so almost anyone could claim amnesty. The reason Latinos join the military is the same as for other “disadvantaged” groups–a secure job for people who have no real skills and live in poverty. But let the U.S. taxpayer subsidize college or vocational school for illegal aliens and you really think they'd go to Afghanistan if they can avoid it?


BeatReid
Comment posted September 16, 2010 @ 7:46 pm

The DREAM Act really should require more than 2 years of college or military service. But it's not really the existence ot the DREAM Act that most reprehensible. It's the attaching of dubious legislation to defense authorization bills that would otherwise go through the full debate in the Senate. This is an inexcusable abuse of partisan politics. [ http://www.beatreid.com ]


Brittanicus
Comment posted September 17, 2010 @ 12:09 am

Sen. Reid has done nothing to safeguard his state from being overrun by illegal alien workers in the entertainment and service industries or taking taxpayer unemployment benefits. With 15 million American workers jobless nationwide, one wonders why Reid hasn’t made E-Verify permanent across America to save jobs. Reid must be coming out of a coma, as he obviously in complete denial that the majority of the people want nothing to do with amnesty or back door amnesty of the Dream Act This Path to citizenship or the “DREAM ACT” is not limited to a few College graduates but an amnesty that includes illegal aliens up to age 35! And the illegal families homesteading arrival can even incorporate children as late as age 15! This bill is a giant fraudulent loophole that nationals can claim an amnesty without, providing proof of meeting certain conditions.

NEXT WEEK–Majority Leader Harry Reid is determined to see any form of amnesty for illegal aliens pass Congress before November's election. His new strategy is to add the DREAM Act Amnesty to the Defense Authorization bill. This dangerous proposal has already failed in Congress twice in the past 4 years, but the Senator Reid continues to favor illegal aliens over unemployed Americans.The DREAM Act amnesty is an anti-American worker, anti-American student, anti-legal immigrant, pro-illegal alien bill that would put millions of Americans out of a job and reward millions of illegal aliens for breaking the law.

As an addition, it will cause even more people to get citizenship, through “chain Migration.” Bringing even more to overpopulate this nation? More than half of Nevadans think undocumented immigrants are taking jobs away from Nevada citizens, as in a recent Las Vegas Review-Journal poll showed. Tea Party favorite Sharon Angle's ad blasts Reid for voting to give “special tax breaks to illegal aliens” and to give those Social Security benefits “even for the time they were here illegally.”

If this bill is passed it leaves intact the “chain migration system” that will permit these 2.1 million illegal aliens, to eventually send for millions more relatives. The ominous DREAM ACT leaves intact the chain migration system that will allow these 2.1 million illegal aliens to ultimately send for millions more relatives. In quick succession, the legitimized illegal aliens would be able to get green cards for their parents. In the future millions of additional relatives would be able to start planning their applications and a working visa. This starts with adult siblings and moves on to aunts, uncles, cousins, etc. A large percentage of the illegal aliens in the U.S. today are extended family members of the illegal aliens who got amnesty in 1986 and also those in the six more-limited amnesties throughout the 1990s.

Like Arizona, Nevada and the Sanctuary State of California, Border States have by far in the largest population of illegal immigrant households, that have been continuously gnawing at the public welfare programs and across the rest across the country. Whereas, Arizona's Governor Jan Brewer, state Senator Russell Peirce and Sheriff Arpaio have enacted laws such as SB 1070, to try to prohibit the illegal immigration invasion. I'm surprised that patriotic politicians has not openly expressed concern why the omnibus Consolidated Appropriations bill included a little-known provision that gutted the major provisions of the Secure Fence Act of 2006. This provision — buried on page 123 of Division E of the Consolidated Appropriations Act, crushed within a month of the original extra border fence barrier.
If anybody cares to review the 2006 Secure Fence Act, that if remained un-amended by Republican Kay Bailey Hutchinson the growing occupancy of illegal aliens would not have happened and reached the 18 and up population.

Is 2010 shaping up to be an Anti-Incumbent, Anti-Liberal or Anti-Democratic year, definitely anti-pro-amnesty and ant-illegal alien beginning with the displacement Democrat Martha Coakley? Is this the year of anti-tax and spend? Smaller government and returning the power back to each state and the people. Is this the beginning pages of politicians working for “The people” again and not for the special interests, Wall Street, open border lobbyists—or financial gain? Only time will tell in the final results of the November midterm elections? Then as for a reduction in the illegal alien population In America shouted in the Liberal media? I don't believe it for one minute? NOR DOES ANYBODY ELSE IN THEIR RIGHT MIND?

Perhaps not the best person to be witted against Sen. Harry Reid, is Candidate Sharron Angle. But unlike Senator Reid the lady did NOT partially dismantle E-Verify, the illegal worker verification system, implemented by the Social Security administration and Homeland security databases. Angles doesn't carry ominous political baggage including supporting the Nevada welfare, unemployment benefits for illegal’s Reid is also a confirmed Pro-Amnesty lawmaker, when his own state of Nevada is suffering chronic unemployment and a withering state deficit.

OVERPOPULATION, congestion, urban sprawl, pollution, environmental damage, crime, diminishing resources, Diseases, lack of affordable housing, depressed wages, underground economic, fraudulent documents, identity theft, tax evasion, soaring crime rate, increased tax burdens, overcrowded schools, uneducated children, overcrowded prisons, inadequate health care, the balkanization of our communities and a large and growing population with loyalty to other Nations. Unknowingly you are supporting the 18–up million of illegal immigrant poor, who slipped across our intentionally undermanned border. An additional half-million are coming every year. Americans who are losing jobs to cheap immigrant labor. In a 1996 study, a Rice University economist estimated that illegal aliens were then displacing 730,000 American workers a year.

Vent your anger on the phone lines to Washington and your Senator and Congressman at 202-224-3121. Want justice on the illegal alien occupation—go to NumbersUSA.


Carlos_ElecEng
Comment posted September 17, 2010 @ 12:44 am

Yes, I am so happy that this might go through. I came here illegally thats true, but if I could have made a choice I would have chosen the legal way. I have grown up here all my life, since I was 7 years old, I dont even remember my home country, and even though I see this country as my own, I cant completely call it home. I am now in college and after I graduate, if this law passes, I will be able to practice my career and help this country like it has helped me.


Markg
Comment posted September 17, 2010 @ 2:23 am

Nobody is asking for your approval anymore. Fact is the military is stretched. They are counting on the DREAM ACT as part of the defense of the USA. Why pay for education from K-12 and then not get something back in return. DIVIDENDS, come on now you have at least played monopoly. Don't be so dumb, go try and understand your credit score at least. If you don't know what FICO stands for your argument on immigration is useless.


Markg
Comment posted September 17, 2010 @ 2:26 am

AND Your point is? Undocumented immigrants are crash dummies who don't eat, drink, or sleep? Try tracing the produce you eat and you'll find that an undocumented immigrant picked it. You buy wine from California? You'll find they harvested the grapes. The bias lies with you


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Comment posted September 17, 2010 @ 2:28 am

THE DREAM ACT WILL BE LAW THIS YEAR. LIKE IT OR NOT.


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John, It seems you quit skool a bitt too soon.
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Comment posted September 19, 2010 @ 9:22 pm

I have to agree that no matter what matter unrelated issues should NEVER be allowed to be added to bills, ever. If this does not have to do with defense… OUT. No idea how they are able to cobble together such a mess of different topics and vote on it at once.


Markg
Comment posted September 20, 2010 @ 1:42 pm

Looks like your did too “skool.” Maybe you can do like mini Palin, and get your degree 1 month before running for office. I heard she “dabbled” in witchcraft also, maybe you can try that while you're at it. The excuses she's giving you now, will be the same if she's ever in office. They are called politicians for a reason.


Cristina
Comment posted September 21, 2010 @ 3:52 am

you do realize that even if they returned to their “homeland” before they were 18 they would still have to wait twelve years minimum before being able to return. Do you want to wait until you are thirty to go to school because your parents were stupid?
Also, what ticks me off the most is that you act like the government can't check and see how long a person has been here. All they need is bank records, bills, license, there are a hundred different ways. That is how they prove someone has been in the US and that they have to wait 12 years before trying to re-enter legally.
Did you know that 50 to 75% of illegal immigrants pay taxes? And that many states (if not all of them) have put laws in place that state that illegal immigrants CANNOT receive welfare, medicaid, or almost any kind of government help even though they pay taxes for it. Don't their kids at least deserve something for all the money the have given to the government? And WHO CARES if this is a way for illegal immigrants to become legal? Do you know what that really means? It means that they would become trackable. The ones that don't pay taxes would be forced to. The economy would be boosted because the people who hire illegal immigrants would be forced to document them and pay them regular wages because they wouldn't be illegal anymore, and the jobs would become competitive again.
This law opens the door to a lot of immigration reform, as well, which this country desperately needs. I pray that this bill becomes law. I have friends who have been waiting for years for this to happen.


Kaipuffcat
Comment posted September 21, 2010 @ 6:55 pm

Melissa you can't reward illegal entry with anything! All this is wrong…..they are here illegally. Why do you all not understand that?


Kaiupffcat
Comment posted September 21, 2010 @ 6:59 pm

It does not MATTER THE FATE they are SUFFERING NOW! For the simple reason that they came here ILLEGALLY! SO REAP WHAT THEY SOW!! What starts wrong….entering illegally…..cannot end right! Simple! Not FAIR FOR US who entered here LEGALLY!!!


Kaipuffcat
Comment posted September 21, 2010 @ 8:30 pm

Yes and other illegal aliens have waited long too…..and these people should go first because…….??


Kaipuffcat
Comment posted September 21, 2010 @ 9:31 pm

Listen you idiot…you are the cry babies. We DID NOT ask them to come here and endure these conditions, they their parents did!! Don't cast blame on us poor Americans that have done naught wrong! I want idiots like you and them to give me my country back. My brother fought in Vietnam and is a proud American as I am. They ARE NOT AMERICANS!


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Comment posted September 21, 2010 @ 9:32 pm

it's offensive?…. To senator graham? How grandiose!


Monica:)
Comment posted September 21, 2010 @ 11:08 pm

You are being very arrogant. First of all you have NO idea what its like in Mexico(and the fact that you singled out Mexico only adds to your arrogance because illegal immigrants come from Guatemala, El Salvador, Venezuela, and so many other countries. Not just Mexico.) Just because the world's richest man is from there, doesn't mean anything. What, just because Bill Gates and Donald Trump are rich does this mean that every single person in the U.S. is too? You have no idea how hard it is to get a good job in Mexico. Frankly, you know nothing of what people go through. I was born in Mexico and my parents brought me here illegally when I was TWO YEARS OLD! I had no control. If it had been up to me I would have immigrated here legally. The Dream Act is for people like me. People who had no choice who want a bright future. I'm currently a sophmore in high school with amazing grades and a 4.2 GPA, but if i'm not legal, how am I going to go to college? How am I going to follow my dreams of being a psychologist and support a family? If the Dream Act passes millions of people like me will be able to do this. And not to mention join the military and protect your country-OUR country.


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Comment posted December 16, 2010 @ 3:56 am

You are a idiot if you think it will pass. The Republican will fillbust it!!! Like it or not


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Comment posted December 16, 2010 @ 7:53 pm

That is the type of language I would from ignorant trash.


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Comment posted January 8, 2011 @ 7:49 am

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Comment posted January 8, 2011 @ 7:50 am

bwa’hahahaahha..WRONG!!!!! go home foo


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Comment posted January 8, 2011 @ 7:52 am

you lose..dream act is only a dream.republicans have the white house now. you lost..we won..so there..nyahhhh!!!!


Djteel
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doesn’t matter..you lost..hehehehe


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it’s clear that you don’t liek us..it’s a-holes liek you that we don’t want here..if you don’t like americans go back to mexico jackoff!!!


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