Republicans Feed Immigration Fears

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Tuesday, September 07, 2010 at 8:54 am

Border safety is shaping up to be a major campaign issue, with some Republicans seemingly intent on arguing the Obama administration has been weak on immigration enforcement.

“I suspect Republicans will also hammer immigration, a topic that preys on economic fears and highlights an issue on which Obama has not acted enough,” Christine Todd Whitman, chair of the Republican Leadership Council and a former governor of New Jersey, wrote Sunday in the Washington Post. And Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) said on Fox News Sunday that the government must up the ante on border enforcement if it wants to prevent the spread of drug cartel violence into the U.S.

His rhetoric on border violence, coupled with talk about beheadings in the desert from Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer, paints a dramatic picture for the urgency of the border safety problem. But the reality on the border is somewhat different — which Brewer was forced to admit Friday when she told the Associated Press she “misspoke” about beheadings:

“That was an error, if I said that,” the Republican told The Associated Press on Friday. “I misspoke, but you know, let me be clear, I am concerned about the border region because it continues to be reported in Mexico that there’s a lot of violence going on and we don’t want that going into Arizona.”

Drug cartel violence in Mexico is a huge problem, and money flowing to the cartels often comes from the U.S. Still, experts argue that the Obama administration is already making the right moves to prevent spillover violence: Long-term efforts should be focused on helping the Mexican government reestablish order, not keeping Mexican nationals out.

The Obama administration already stepped up its border efforts, sending National Guard troops to the border and signing a $600 million border security bill — pushed by Democrats — to increase patrols along the border. Violent crime is down in Arizona, and border residents say they feel safe. Department of Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano has said the next step should be comprehensive immigration reform.

The New York Times agreed in a Sunday editorial:

The border crackdown has been therapy for a nation spooked. But for solving the real problems of immigration, not so much. The terror babies are a fiction, but millions of unauthorized workers are not. At some point the economy will recover. The demand for immigrant labor will heat up, and illegal crossings will rise. Companies will go begging for legal workers. The drones and the boots and the fences will deter many new migrants, but not all. Eleven million people will still be living and working outside the law.

And the country will learn that it spent billions at the border to solve a problem a sealed border won’t fix.

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The Times view has no empirical support. In fact, state-level enforcement of even modest employer sanctions has (even before the Great Recession) begun to cause jobs to dry up and illegals to start to drift back home where they belong. This has already happened in states like Georgia and Oklahoma and Arizona that took even modest measures to discourage hiring of illegals–eg by requiring businesses to use EVerify. The attrition strategy works perfectly well, and the “11 million are here to stay” line is completely bogus.

The idea that we need to introduce an amnesty now, before we have a secure border and strong disincentives to hiring illegals, is laughable–and any fool can see that it creates an incentive for future illegals. “If they amnestied everybody else who broke the law and went there, why should I not believe they will eventually amnesty me?” would make perfect sense. And indeed, the NYTimes would eventually want to amnesty new waves of illegals, too!

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Next on the–INCUMBENT HIT LIST–on illegal immigration is Democratic Senator is Russell Feingold of Wisconsin, who is following the same pattern as other pro amnesty politicians. In the midterm Feingold comes up against Republican candidate Ron Johnson who has stated “secure the borders, but affirms no path to citizenship. “ Because of the billions of dollars involved in processing another Amnesty, the costs would be foolhardy and once again be extracted from taxpayers. Another Amnesty would just reason another rush for the border, unless Americans put their foot down and demand—NO MORE?.

Here is list of how Senator Feingold has unresponsively voted since he's been in Washington. Voted–YES–on continuing federal funds for declared “sanctuary cities”. (Mar 2008) Voted–YES–on comprehensive immigration reform. (Jun 2007) Voted–NO–on declaring English as the official language of the US government. (Jun 2007) Voted–YES–on eliminating the “Y” non-immigrant guest worker program. (May 2007) Voted–NO–on building a fence along the Mexican border. (Sep 2006) Voted–YES–on establishing a Guest Worker program. (May 2006) Voted–YES–on allowing illegal aliens to participate in Social Security. (May 2006) Voted–YES–on giving Guest Workers a path to citizenship. (May 2006) Voted– NO–on allowing more foreign workers into the US for farm work. (Jul 1998) Voted–NO–on visas for skilled workers. (May 1998) Voted–NO–on limiting welfare for immigrants (Jun 1997). Neither Democrats nor Republicans have proved their worth, relating to the mess cased by the invasion, but ordinary Americans have summoned the strength to reprimand both political parties, for not representing the citizen voter. Now both sides of Washington and the incumbents who think they are safe are now under the Tea Party, Independents and other surfacing organization bombardment.

Our government needs to prove to American labor that they mean what they say? That means secure borders and interior immigration enforcement. E-Verify are part of nationwide enforcement, a tool that has caused hysteria amongst the open border demagogues. E-verify was nearly sold out by Sen. Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, Rep. Joe Baca (D-Calif.) and even Janet Napolitano. But this time they failed to arrest it's capability to remove E-Verify from the Parthenon of tools that addresses the illegal immigration invasion. Brought into the spotlight by Senator Sessions, they Democratic leadership were unable to sink it beyond the enlightened eyes of the attentive public. In every state E-Verify should be mandatory, including the 287 (G) policing law. State troopers, highway patrol should have the power of arrest in any suspicious police stop.

With a growing list of states gathering behind the Arizona laws, it’s time that the Democratic federal government stop harassing states trying to protect its citizens from the illegal alien storming and deal with issues as only originally allowed by the founding fathers. Many of the Obama policies are overstepping their mark, and treading into the jurisdictions of state government. As with the 1986 Immigration control and reform bill, those no administration has–NEVER–tried to–ENFORCE–the law. THROW ALL THESE ANTI-SOVEREIGNTY LAWMAKERS OUT IN NOVEMBER. Even so the border remains open in many places which leave US landowners in peril daily from marauding illegal alien convoys tearing down fences, killing livestock and burglarizing their homes. Of course the tide is turning and no political hype from the Liberal aggressive, the negative lying media and border openers will halt the political refurbishing of the Capital elites. One can find out the truth for themselves by going to SECUREBORDERINTEL website, and viewing the massive volume of illegal immigrants slipping past the border by the thousands daily, carrying automatic weapons and their drug “mules” carrying large panniers of drugs.

Extraction by E-Verification will cause–expedited ATTRITION–without huge expenditures, without forced deportation. Agents of ICE only need to mobilize a large force of Auditors to investigate employer I-9 records nationwide, zeroing in on the 127 Sanctuary Cities. Not just new hires should be vetted through E-Verify, but–ALL–long-time employees. Nobody should be exempt, because jobs are being stolen by illegal nationals with fraudulent documents. There is always the Social Security Administration to resolve the hiring issue? Informants within the company can contact ICE if they have a suspicion individuals working there? Businesses should be responsive that there are severe monetary risks or even prison, for employing illegal employees?

We need politicians we can trust, instead of those elected such as Sen. Reid, Speaker Pelosi, Feinstein and a whole list, who can be graded as Anti-American worker, anti-sovereignty, pro-illegal immigration and compromiser's of the Rule of Law. Let them hear your anger and frustration at 202-224-3121 Find out the buried truth at NUMBERSUSA, JUDICIAL WATCH & CAPSWEB, for overpopulation facts.


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Comment posted September 7, 2010 @ 9:07 pm

The economics of immigration, Stephen C. Goss, the chief actuary of the Social Security Administration and someone who enjoys bipartisan support for his straightforwardness, said that by 2007, the Social Security trust fund had received a net benefit of somewhere between $120 billion and $240 billion from unauthorized immigrants.

That represented an astounding 5.4 percent to 10.7 percent of the trust fund's total assets of $2.24 trillion that year. The cumulative contribution is surely higher now. Unauthorized immigrants paid a net contribution of $12 billion in 2007 alone, Goss said.

Previous estimates circulating publicly and in Congress had placed the annual contributions at roughly half of Goss's 2007 figure and listed the cumulative benefit on the order of $50 billion.

The Social Security trust fund faces a solvency crisis that would be even more pressing were it not for these payments.

Adding to the Social Security irony is that the restrictionists are mostlyOLDER AND RETIRED WHITES from longtime American families. The very people, in other words, who benefit most from the Social Security payments by unauthorized immigrants.

THE FACTS ARE THAT JAN BREWER AND THE REPUBLICANS ARE DOING THIS TO GET REELECTED, HERE ARE FACTS.

1, HOW MUCH MONEY $$$$$$$ IS ALLOCATED TO ENFORCE THIS LAW?? NONE.

2, HOW MANY NEW POLICEMEN / WOMEN SHES HIRED TO HOLD AND PROCESS THE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANTS? NONE.

3, HOW MANY NEW IMMIGRATION JUDGES SHES HIRED TO PROCESS THE THOUSANDS OF DEPORTATION CASES?? NONE.

4, HOW MANY NEW JAILS SHES BUILT TO HOLD THE THOUSANDS OF UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANTS? NONE.

5, HOW MANY BUSES / PLANES SHES BROUGHT TO DEPORT THE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF THOSE WHO ARE ORDERED BY THE IMMIGRATION JUDGES TO BE DEPORTED?? NONE.

CAN ANYONE ANSWER THESE FACTS? THE REPUBLICAN STATES ARE TRYING TO MAKE THIS THEIR PLATFORM, THEY WILL LOSE BIGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG TIME.
ALL ARE GODS CHILDREN. NO HUMAN IS ABOVE ANOTHER. ALL ARE CREATED BY ONE ALMIGHTY GOD WHO LOVES ALL HIS CHILDREN.
I AM NOT SAYING DON'T CLOSE THE BORDERS I AM SAYING STOP THE FOOLISH HATE AND IGNORANCE.

Moments after signing Arizona's tough new immigration law in April, Gov. Jan Brewer was asked WHAT A ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT LOOKS LIKE????

The question, posed during a news conference that was broadcast live on TV, seemed to catch Brewer off guard. After a long pause, she said, “I DON'T KNOW WHAT A ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT LOOKS LIKE. I can tell you that there are people in Arizona that ASS-U-ME they know what an illegal immigrant looks like. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY KNOW THAT FOR A FACT OR NOT.”

Her answer cut to the very heart of the controversy surrounding the law, which takes effect July 29. Although there are many people who assume they know what an illegal immigrant looks like, the fact is, IT IS IMPOSSIBLE to tell a person's immigration status by appearance, experts say.

So despite assurances to the contrary, some civil-rights groups and others fear that enforcement of the law will lead to racial profiling. Several lawsuits already raise worries of civil-rights violations, and a group of Arizona law professors concluded the law authorizes enforcement based on ethnicity. That, they allege, would mean officers would end up harassing and possibly detaining people who aren't illegal immigrants.

The vast majority of illegal immigrants are Hispanic. But most Hispanics in Arizona are not illegal immigrants – they are legal residents or U.S. citizens, many with roots dating back generations.

Read more: http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/news/articles/2010/07/18/20100718illegal-immigration-profiling.html#ixzz0u2wY1a1d

What both these Republicans FORGOT to Mention in their SPIN POLITICS is that

It’s all about economics! Removing undocumented workers from the U.S. would total a loss of $1.8 trillion in annual spending and $651.5 billion in annual economic output, according to a study by the economic analysis firm The Perryman Group. It would cost about $28 billion per year to apprehend illegal immigrants, $6 billion a year to detain them, $500 million for extra beds, $2 million to judicially process them and $1.6 billion to transport them home. $230 Billion is the estimated amount it would cost over the next five years to enact the scenario of the mass-deportation caucus and deport the undocumented population, according to a report by the Center for American Progress. Legalization of undocumented immigrants would significantly expand the economy—by a cumulative $1.5 trillion in gross domestic product over 10 years. A deportation approach, by contrast, would have the cumulative effect of draining $2.5 trillion over 10 years from the U.S. economy. Illegal immigrants are paying their share of taxes, they pay the same taxes as you and me when they purchase anything, They don't carry a card that says Undocumented Immigrant, DON'T CHARGE TAXES
Start looking at FACTS & NUMBERS.

Who’s behind these laws?

FOLLOW THE MONEY$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ Many may want them gone, but illegal immigrants in Oklahoma can be good business.

So say county officials who handle the purse strings of some sheriff's departments in the state. Millions in revenue for transporting and detaining immigrants for the federal government have financed jobs, departments and, in some cases, entire jails.

“It's a good business plan,” said Tim Albin, chief of the services division that oversees the budget for the Tulsa County Sheriffs Department. “It allows us to bank and put money back and carry over for other things.”

Read more: http://newsok.com/jailing-immigrants-adds-funds-for-some-counties/article/3489827#ixzz0yC9uF24O

The Immigration Reform Law Institute, or IRLI, the legal arm of the Federation for American Immigration Reform, or FAIR, drafted the Arizona law and most of the copycat bills. The Southern Poverty Law Center designated FAIR a hate group because of its founder’s writings, its repeated participation with white nationalist groups, and its receipt of major funding from a racist organization.

Copycat laws frequently rely on the work of attorney Kris Kobach, who works for IRLI. Kobach’s lawyering has cost localities who have hired him millions of dollars while the laws have been found unconstitutional. The Arizona law was brought forth by State Senator Russell Pearce, who the Arizona press has described as having a history of associating with neo-Nazis and sending anti-Semitic emails.


Facts
Comment posted September 7, 2010 @ 9:08 pm

Before you Scream and show Ignorance and Hate at least read the Immigration Law regarding Undocumented Immigrants. http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/F?c111:1:./temp/~c111807rby:e428513:

The Undocumented immigrants paying more taxes than you think!!

http://www.cfr.org/content/publications/attachments/ImmigrationCSR26.pdf

http://www.immigrationpolicy.org/

http://www.immigrationpolicy.org/images/File/factcheck//EconomicsofCIRFullDoc.pdf

Eight million Undocumented immigrants pay Social Security, Medicare and income taxes. Denying public services to people who pay their taxes is an affront to America’s bedrock belief in fairness. But many “pull-up-the-drawbridge” politicians want to do just that when it comes to Undocumented immigrants.

The fact that Undocumented immigrants pay taxes at all will come as news to many Americans. A stunning two thirds of Undocumented immigrants pay Medicare, Social Security and personal income taxes.

Yet, nativists like Congressman Tom Tancredo, R-Colo., have popularized the notion that illegal aliens are a colossal drain on the nation’s hospitals, schools and welfare programs — consuming services that they don’t pay for.

In reality, the 1996 welfare reform bill disqualified Undocumented immigrants from nearly all means tested government programs including food stamps, housing assistance, Medicaid and Medicare-funded hospitalization.

The only services that illegals can still get are emergency medical care and K-12 education. Nevertheless, Tancredo and his ilk pushed a bill through the House criminalizing all aid to illegal aliens — even private acts of charity by priests, nurses and social workers.

Potentially, any soup kitchen that offers so much as a free lunch to an illegal could face up to five years in prison and seizure of assets. The Senate bill that recently collapsed would have tempered these draconian measures against private aid.

But no one — Democrat or Republican — seems to oppose the idea of withholding public services. Earlier this year, Congress passed a law that requires everyone who gets Medicaid — the government-funded health care program for the poor — to offer proof of U.S. citizenship so we can avoid “theft of these benefits by illegal aliens,” as Rep. Charlie Norwood, R-Ga., puts it. But, immigrants aren’t flocking to the United States to mooch off the government.

According to a study by the Urban Institute, the 1996 welfare reform effort dramatically reduced the use of welfare by undocumented immigrant households, exactly as intended. And another vital thing happened in 1996: the Internal Revenue Service began issuing identification numbers to enable illegal immigrants who don’t have Social Security numbers to file taxes.

One might have imagined that those fearing deportation or confronting the prospect of paying for their safety net through their own meager wages would take a pass on the IRS’ scheme. Not so. Close to 8 million of the 12 million or so illegal aliens in the country today file personal income taxes using these numbers, contributing billions to federal coffers.

No doubt they hope that this will one day help them acquire legal status — a plaintive expression of their desire to play by the rules and come out of the shadows. What’s more, aliens who are not self-employed have Social Security and Medicare taxes automatically withheld from their paychecks.

Since undocumented workers have only fake numbers, they’ll never be able to collect the benefits these taxes are meant to pay for. Last year, the revenues from these fake numbers — that the Social Security administration stashes in the “earnings suspense file” — added up to 10 percent of the Social Security surplus.

The file is growing, on average, by more than $50 billion a year. Beyond federal taxes, all illegals automatically pay state sales taxes that contribute toward the upkeep of public facilities such as roads that they use, and property taxes through their rent that contribute toward the schooling of their children.

The non-partisan National Research Council found that when the taxes paid by the children of low-skilled immigrant families — most of whom are illegal — are factored in, they contribute on average $80,000 more to federal coffers than they consume. Yes, many illegal migrants impose a strain on border communities on whose doorstep they first arrive, broke and unemployed.

To solve this problem equitably, these communities ought to receive the surplus taxes that federal government collects from immigrants. But the real reason border communities are strained is the lack of a guest worker program.

Such a program would match willing workers with willing employers in advance so that they wouldn’t be stuck for long periods where they disembark while searching for jobs. The cost of undocumented aliens is an issue that immigrant bashers have created to whip up indignation against people they don’t want here in the first place.

With the Senate having just returned from yet another vacation and promising to revisit the stalled immigration bill, politicians ought to set the record straight: Illegals are not milking the government. If anything, it is the other way around.

The Undocumented Immigrants pay the exact same amount of taxes like you and me when they buy Things, rent a house, fill up gas, drink a beer or wine, buy appliances, play the states lottery and mega millions . Below are the links to just a few sites that will show you exactly how much tax you or the Undocumented Immigrant pays , so you see they are NOT FREELOADERS, THEY PAY TAXES AND TOLLS Exactly the same as you, Now if you take out 10% from your states /city Budget what will your city/state look like financially ?

Stop your folly thinking , you are wise USE YOUR WISDOM to see the reality. They pay more taxes than you think, Including FEDERAL INCOME TAX using a ITN Number that is given to them by the IRS, Social Security Taxes and State taxes that are withheld form their paychecks automatically.

Taxes, paid by You & the Undocumented are the same in each state check your state : http://www.taxadmin.org/fta/rate/sales.html

GAS Taxes paid by you & the Undocumented are the same. Go to and check out your states tax; http://www.gaspricewatch.com/usgastaxes.asp

Cigarette Taxes paid by you & the Undocumented are the same, check this out in : http://www.taxadmin.org/fta/rate/cigarett.html

Clothing Sales Taxes, are the same paid by you & the Undocumented Immigrant; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sales_taxes_in_the_United_States

City Taxes, are the same paid by you or the Undocumented, since he pays rent and the LANDLORD pays the city : http://www.town-usa.com/statetax/statetaxlist.html

Beer Taxes, are the same paid by you or the Undocumented: http://www.taxadmin.org/fta/rate/beer.html

TAX DATA : http://www.taxfoundation.org/taxdata/show/245.html


Facts
Comment posted September 7, 2010 @ 9:10 pm

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/reagan-insider-gop-destroyed-us-economy-2010-08-10

This week, the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR) came out with a report entitled, The Fiscal Burden of Illegal Immigration on U.S. Taxpayers, which discusses the costs of unauthorized immigration to the United States. As usual, FAIR has put out a highly misleading fiscal snapshot of the costs allegedly imposed on U.S. taxpayers by unauthorized immigrants and completely discounts the economic contributions of unauthorized workers and consumers. Moreover, FAIR inflates their costs in a variety of ways and conveniently ignores any contributions that would offset these costs.

While the publication is long and deals with a wide range of issues that warrant more dissection by credible economic experts, the trade publication Education Week has already begun the deconstruction with an item that sheds light on their misleading claims about providing English language services in schools.

Another argument FAIR makes, which makes it hard to glean what their solution would be is the high cost of deporting undocumented workers which FAIR blames on the immigrants themselves. It's a somewhat circular argument to say that the cost of undocumented immigrants includes the cost of failing law enforcement efforts. So, in essence, FAIR is saying that the deport-them-all approach costs too much money and doesn't work. Yet their “solution” is to spend even more money on enforcement.

FAIR's data is meant only to reinforce their vision of “attrition through enforcement.” It is not rooted in an effort to move the immigration debate forward. Therefore, passing comprehensive immigration reform – which would yield a cumulative $1.5 trillion in added U.S. gross domestic product over 10 years – is the only sound economic decision the United States can make.

SOURCE Immigration Policy Center

Who’s behind these laws?

The Immigration Reform Law Institute, or IRLI, the legal arm of the Federation for American Immigration Reform, or FAIR, drafted the Arizona law and most of the copycat bills. The Southern Poverty Law Center designated FAIR a hate group because of its founder’s writings, its repeated participation with white nationalist groups, and its receipt of major funding from a racist organization.

Copycat laws frequently rely on the work of attorney Kris Kobach, who works for IRLI. Kobach’s lawyering has cost localities who have hired him millions of dollars while the laws have been found unconstitutional. The Arizona law was brought forth by State Senator Russell Pearce, who the Arizona press has described as having a history of associating with neo-Nazis and sending anti-Semitic emails.


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Comment posted September 7, 2010 @ 11:05 pm

Long-term efforts should be focused on helping the Mexican government reestablish order, not keeping Mexican nationals out.
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Oooh. That was way, way to close to the business of experts agree. You probably consider Joe the Bartender the best expert you know, but we prefer the ones that have made it very clear we maintain our border, and we do not allow illegal aliens to dictate our Immigration Policy. An excellent resource..
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03/17/AR2010031703115.html?hpid=opinionsbox1
http://immigrationcounters.com/
http://www.numbersusa.com/content/issues.html
http://one-simple-idea.com/BorderSecurity.htm
http://www.usillegalaliens.com/

Facts tells us the information is misleading.. but he doesn't give us a clue as to where the correct information is. Oklahoma would STILL be waiting if we depended on him, and so… this continues to be the case…

City of Los Angeles welfare
http://www.the-signal.com/news/archive/12489/

It is totally unacceptable and if we don't control the illegal aliens, it will be coming at all of us on a rocket sled.


American
Comment posted September 7, 2010 @ 11:45 pm

Why do you refer to this topic as “immigration”?

Republicans don't have a problem with immigration, they do however have a problem with ILLEGAL aliens.

Please tell me, what part of illegal don't you understand?


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Comment posted September 25, 2010 @ 3:20 pm

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