Reed asked Haynes about the service JAGs dissents, solicited by Myers through Adm. Dalton. “I believe I was shown a couple of them when I appeared before your committee in closed session about a month ago,” Haynes said, “and that was the first time I had seen them.” However, he said, he did know there was dissent within the services to the interrogation techniques.

You weren’t curious to see these memos? Reed asked. “I don’t know that I was aware of them,” Haynes said. Reed was incredulous: “You either were or you were not.”

“I don’t recall being aware of them,” Reed said.