Reid Weighs A “Down Payment” Approach To Immigration Reform

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Tuesday, July 27, 2010 at 6:07 pm

Immigrant rights groups are trying new “down payment” approach to reform: small bills now, major legislation later. The Washington Post’s Krissah Thompson reports that in lieu of comprehensive immigration reform this year, advocates hope to pass the DREAM Act and AgJOBS, two bills that would help smaller segments of the immigrant population.

Prospects for the bills are still uncertain — chief sponsor Sen. Dick Durbin told DREAM supporters last week the bill could be passed this year but has been vague about whether it would come as part of a comprehensive reform effort.

Reform advocates are eager to show that this “down payment” strategy is working: America’s Voice sent out a press release claiming Reid is stepping up on the DREAM Act and “is meeting today with Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) to discuss moving forward on DREAM.”

America’s Voice might be inflating the truth a bit — Reid meets with Pelosi for a leadership meeting every Tuesday, and Jim Manley, Reid’s spokesman, declined to comment on whether DREAM was discussed today. No one in Reid’s camp is saying that he has given up on comprehensive reform, but Manley confirmed that the senator is looking closely at the smaller bills:

He is still committed to reforming a system that is unfair to the American taxpayer, worker, and economy, but that isn’t possible without Republican support. In the meantime, he is exploring whether he can pass smaller legislation, such as AgJOBS or the DREAM Act, of which he is an original co-sponsor and long-time supporter. However, Republican support and 60 votes is still needed to address any aspects of our broken immigration system this year.

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So the Dream Act covers students 12 to 35, for students who are 12 to 18 does that mean their parents get automatic citizenship. If the student is 24 and comes into the country illegally but goes to community college or gets a GED they get automatic citizenship? I really am confused? I understand the problems for these kids. They were raised American but in reality they are not. I can see 17 and 18 year old's whose family are illegal but the children have completed their education and are working, with proper social security or working papers being able to stay. But they would have to be investigated for criminal acts, also if they were on Welfare or other county services at any time I would have to say no. We have given them an education it is time to let them take this gift and use it to enhance their own country. Then if they want to come back they can have an advantage in the citizenship process by knowing what is required to become an American. My other question is if 12 year old's can stay but their parents or family can't whose responsibility are they? The state? This is a problem we have been ignoring for years and like the unemployment and budget problems that have come to a head. This issue has to be addressed very carefully. I really feel for these people but too many others who have come to our country have done it the right and legal way. We would be slapping them in the face and I am sorry but if you want to be an American citizen then you must go through the proper channels. I also want to know how the government would know at what age these people actually entered the country? If they are illegal, how do you know they were 15 and not 27? School records I don't think so. Too many fake identifications.

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I received this today

Some children were brought here as little as 1-5 years old. Do you think they knew what was happening? I don't think so. They live their lives as Americans only to find out, when their parents think they're old enough to handle the truth, that they're illegal aliens. In the mean time they have been working as hard, if not harder, than anyone in their school who is legal. They have to go through with the emotional detachment from society, a feeling of desperation everyday of their lives. They are only children. Some have everything to give back to America. I do. I'm 17. One of the most respected students in my high school. Ranked 5th. Run Cross Country & Track, Participate in 4 Honor Societies, various clubs including Student council, FBLA, Peer Mentoring. And I volunteer. I don't know if I'll get into college… I pray everyday for reform to come. The only reason I don't give up is because I have hope. I think a lot of Americans today are partially bias on this issue because they don't know someone who came here illegally, but we're everywhere, and its our biggest secret. I wrote a letter to the president last week about this. I just hope something gets done. Please don't feel offended by my comments, I am just trying to provide you with a perspective.


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My response

“I think a lot of Americans today are partially bias on this issue because they don't know someone who came here illegally, but we're everywhere, and its our biggest secret. “
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This paragraph you just wrote is the answer to you question. except it is no longer a secret, it never really was. Do I feel for you and your family and friends yes I do, But your family knew what they were doing, they knew it was illegal and they knew the Consequences. They were able to give you a good education and you sound like a very good person. Have you or any of your family ever tried to apply for Citizenship? I don't want to hear sad stories, I want to know if you actually tried. Is the American government responsible for this mess, oh yes indeed.But just because a wrong has been allowed to slip between the political cracks doesn't make it a right. You stated that you have a good American education, then you must have spent sometime learning our constitution and the rules of our country. As American citizens it is our duty to respect and follow the law of the land. Your families actions did not, I am sorry you are in this mess and I am not upset or angry about your comments I really am concerned. By our country's failure to follow our own rules we failed ourselves and you. Now take your education and your knowledge of our country and use it. Go back to your home country and make changes within your own government that would help effect changes to ours. But please don't expect to be rewarded for your family breaking our laws.The sins of the father are visited upon the son, but you have the opportunity to take this as a challenge to change the rules for tomorrow. This is my perspective.


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There are three solutions. 1. Deport all those evil nasty rats, they are not human and only suck the life out of America (keep in mind this is not a Mexican issue alone, just an example there are an estimated 100,000 undocumented Canadians here) 2. Americans should realize we all need immigrant labor and they need us. Go ahead trace every piece of fruit or meat you buy and you'll find out that either an undocumented worked planted it or harvested/packed it on the supermarket shelf, that's the facts. 3. Realize this is America, freedom for all not some. What is there to hate about? They are undocumented we all know this; we all support them from fields to the restaurants and even in our homes. Why not let them pay the fines, get right and move on. The bucket is leaking and the duct tape is not longer working, nor is the idea of saying illegal is illegal. There are varying degrees of punishment for crimes, so what's your solution? We are better than this people. Racism has taken another form and it's packaged in a newly minted word called: illegal alien.


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