rssObey: White House Suggested Cutting Food Stamps to Pay for Education Program
Friday, July 16, 2010 at 5:04 pm
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This entire interview with Rep. Dave Obey (D-Wis.), the head of the House Appropriations Committee and a powerful veteran member of Congress, who is retiring this year, is worth a read. But one passage is particularly striking. Obey is discussing his proposal to divert funds from the Obama administration’s Race to the Top education program to save teachers’ jobs. Due to the states’ fiscal crises, as many as 200,000 local government employees, many of them teachers, might lose their jobs in the coming year.
The proposal made it in to the House war-funding bill, which needs a Senate vote. The White House has threatened to veto the war-funding bill if it contains Obey’s change. Here is the quote, from an interview with The Fiscal Times:
The secretary of education [Arne Duncan] is whining about the fact he only got 85 percent of the money he wanted .… [W]hen we needed money, we committed the cardinal sin of treating him like any other mere mortal. We were giving them over $10 billion in money to help keep teachers on the job, plus another $5 billion for Pell, so he was getting $15 billion for the programs he says he cares about, and it was costing him $500 million [in reductions to the Race to the Top program]. Now that’s a pretty damn good deal. So as far as I’m concerned, the secretary of education should have been happy as hell. He should have taken that deal and smiled like a Cheshire cat. He’s got more walking around money than every other cabinet secretary put together.
It blows my mind that the White House would even notice the fight [over Race to the Top]. I would have expected the president to say to the secretary, “Look, you’re getting a good deal, for God’s sake, what this really does is guarantee that the rest of the money isn’t going to be touched.” We gave [Duncan] $4.3 billion in the stimulus package, no questions asked. He could spend it any way he wants. … I trusted the secretary, so I gave him a hell of a lot more money than I should have.
My point is that I have been working for school reform long before I ever heard of the secretary of education, and long before I ever heard of Obama. And I’m happy to welcome them on the reform road, but I’ll be damned if I think the only road to reform lies in the head of the secretary of education.
We were told we have to offset every damn dime of [new teacher spending]. Well, it ain’t easy to find offsets, and with all due respect to the administration their first suggestion for offsets was to cut food stamps. Now they were careful not to make an official budget request, because they didn’t want to take the political heat for it, but that was the first trial balloon they sent down here. … Their line of argument was, well, the cost of food relative to what we thought it would be has come down, so people on food stamps are getting a pretty good deal in comparison to what we thought they were going to get. Well isn’t that nice. Some poor bastard is going to get a break for a change.
If Obey is right about this, it is, in a word, horrifying. Food stamps are not particularly generous. They help families that are often desperate. They are just about the last thing that should get cut in the midst of a horrific employment crisis in the wake of a job-sapping recession.
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Comment posted July 17, 2010 @ 12:00 am
From what I've heard, these changes are in out-years and not necessarily in the short-term. If food prices do go back up, changes could be made in the other direction.
Race to the top is not particularly generous and why should it get cut in the midst of a horrific education crisis?
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Comment posted July 17, 2010 @ 2:08 am
gee, I wonder who thought that (rahm the WH pimp) thought that up?
Comment posted July 17, 2010 @ 2:10 am
Race to the Top targets almost the same “audience” as the food stamps. Try sitting in class hungry, and see how much you'll retain of that knowledge that's being imparted to you (that's assuming that you'll even bother to get your sorry ass there). And I don't know about your area but, in mine, programs like free school lunches and weekend “home care packages” got sliced looong ago.
That's one reason for keeping the food stamps up to par, even if the ed funding has to be sliced by some 20%. Another reason is that, at least at short term, food stamps are one of the best/most efficient “kick starters” for economy in general; they'll pay for themselves much faster than the — long term — education spending.
Vis your: “If food prices do go back up, changes could be made in the other direction.”… Have you ever tried to screw money *back* from the govt, once it had been apportioned? Takes *ages*. Meanwhile, food prices are so volatile, they don't even make the consumer price index.
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Next up: Solving the foreclosure problem by bringing back Debtor's Prisons.
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Comment posted July 17, 2010 @ 6:59 am
Will it take somebody starving to death for us the wake up that the “nanny state” where we don't let poor people die isn't a bad thing?
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Comment posted July 17, 2010 @ 8:08 am
meh…it ain't really a Obummer thang.
He's a puppet like the last POTUS.
I am sure if it was up to him, he wouldn't cut teachers or starve poor people…I'm sure Buffett wouldn't do the same thing if asked.
But they differ to a System that would…like the rest of us.
It's NOT like it's going to get any better, regardless of your ideological or religious persuasion, the next time you vote.
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meh…it ain't really a Obummer thang.
He's a puppet like the last POTUS.
I am sure if it was up to him, he wouldn't cut teachers or starve poor people…I'm sure Buffett wouldn't do the same thing if asked.
But they differ to a System that would…like the rest of us.
It's NOT like it's going to get any better, regardless of your ideological or religious persuasion, the next time you vote.
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I simply can't believe that people don't understand that this is the Corporate States of America. these corporations have been setting themselves up to become the government since Richard Milhaus Nixon. Doesn't anyone see all the steps that lead up to this? Nixon took the US off the gold standard after the Fed Reserve provided a study that said that “fiat currency” should be used instead of backed precious metal securities (those federal reserve notes on your paper bills) and disassociate the precious metals from the coins and paper notes that we use today? Does anyone know if there is still gold at Fort Knox? I have not heard a response to that question since 1972. We gave up our independence on that dark day. There is NOTHING backing our currency. Fiat currency is a joke: “In most cases, a fiat monetary system comes into existence as a result of excessive public debt. When the government is unable to repay all its debt in gold or silver, the temptation to remove physical backing rather than to default becomes irresistible. This was the case in 18th century France during the Law scheme, as well as in the 70s in the US, when Nixon removed the last link between the dollar and gold which is still in effect today.” http://www.kwaves.com/fiat.htm
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Comment posted July 17, 2010 @ 9:47 am
Thought about?
So, we had a White House that didn't think 2001 -2008.
Now we complain that we have a White House that thinks????
Pure BS!
Comment posted July 17, 2010 @ 9:48 am
Shut up liar, people like you are so gullible its pathetic!
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Comment posted July 17, 2010 @ 11:32 am
The government is responsible for the mess our economy is in. The citizens should not have to suffer because of the governments stupidity of getting us into wars on behalf of Israel that have bankrupted America. We need some politicians put on trial for the treason they have committed by putting their Master, Israel, before the US citizens, and, if they are found guilty, they should all be taken out and shot with great speed. These agents for Israel that pose as “Representatives” can be spotted immediately upon examining their voting record regarding Isreal. Those that give Israel billions while stopping unemployment benefits are Israeli agents. Let the smoke from burnt gunpowder choke Washington DC.
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Comment posted July 17, 2010 @ 4:17 pm
Privatize the gains and socialize loss. Looking at who and what gained in the last 10 years or so, it should be clear who actually runs our country. American democracy = best government money can buy!
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Comment posted July 17, 2010 @ 7:22 pm
Anyone still believes on that 'hope' and 'change' bullshit?
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