Rand Paul to Unemployed: Take a Pay Cut and Stop Asking for Handouts

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Monday, June 21, 2010 at 2:04 pm

Via Talking Points Memo, Rand Paul — son of Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas) and the Republican nominee for a Kentucky Senate seat — has some advice for the unemployed: Take a pay cut and stop asking for government aid.

“As bad as it sounds, ultimately we do have to sometimes accept a wage that’s less than we had at our previous job in order to get back to work and allow the economy to get started again,” he said. “Nobody likes that, but it may be one of the tough love things that has to happen.”

Paul also suggested that regardless of whether the benefits could be paid for with cuts somewhere else, it might be time for some people to just stop asking for government aid. “I think the issue is bigger than unemployment benefits.” Paul said, referring to government spending. “It’s all about priorities, what is the priority. And sometimes tough decisions will have to be made.”

“I’m not sure what the answer is,” Paul said. “In Europe, they give about a year of unemployment. We’re up to two years now in America.”

The latter point is simply not true. Sweden, for instance, grants the unemployed up to 450 days of unemployment benefits and then offers a program guaranteeing work for the long-term unemployed. And the former point is dismissive and cruel. There are 7 million Americans who have been out of work for more than six months and a million who have been out of work for more than two years — and not for a lack of “tough love,” or because they are refusing jobs with lower salaries. They are competing five-to-one for jobs. They often work in places that have suffered the collapse of personnel-intensive industries (home building in Las Vegas, car manufacturing in Detroit). Those jobs are not coming back, and if you are underwater on your mortgage, taking care of a sick parent or a jobless kid and tied down to your community, it is not easy for you to pick up and find work elsewhere. There are a number of governmental programs that could help these millions of people — direct hiring and extended benefits among them. But politicians’ belief that the debt is more important and that sometimes people just have to stop asking for handouts means that aid is not likely forthcoming.

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fazsha
Comment posted June 21, 2010 @ 6:15 pm

boo hoo. If there are no jobs in your town, move to another town.


Edioe90
Comment posted June 21, 2010 @ 6:35 pm

Annie,

Cry me a river. There was NOTHING dismissive or cruel about Paul's Statements. Furthermore what he said makes complete sense.You whiny dems don't get it do you? You just want to take this country further down the toilet with all your entitlements. Do you ever get sick of feeling you have a right to other peoples money?


Jburge1
Comment posted June 21, 2010 @ 6:39 pm

We are not asking for a handout. Just a hand. For the first time in 40 years and after paying into U.I. fund I am using this . I also suggest doing away with all welfare,(at some time these worthless parents have to get off their lazy asses and find work. Also anyone who has been collecting social-security since the seventies and eighties used up what they paid into it after two years so that has to stop.all public sector jobs have to have pay cuts of half their wages and or salaries and pay into their own benefits and their own insurance.


Patrick
Comment posted June 21, 2010 @ 6:49 pm

I had to take a new job with lower pay. Sucked but I made it work. I dont care where you live and how many people you are taking care of, it does not take more than a year to find work, aside from injuries or disabilities. You dont have to be living off of the government to mail out resumes.


Snowcrash108
Comment posted June 21, 2010 @ 7:10 pm

Anne Lowrey wrote, “Politicians’ belief that the debt is more important and that sometimes people just have to stop asking for handouts means that aid is not likely forthcoming.”

You're not helping people by causing the economy to tank. This country is bankrupt. We can't sustain these loose money fiscal policies and the increased welfare measures you're advocating will only make things worse for the very people you say you want to help.


Jdmaz
Comment posted June 21, 2010 @ 7:13 pm

How dare you scum bags state that we are looking for hand outs. Here in PA I have been looking day and night for work and still cant find anything. All I here is oh you are way to over qualified well WTF. If I did not need a job I would not be applying. Then I have to read all your shitty comments about enough is enough and we are all welfare low-life's. I owned a company where I was forced to shut down do to our wonderful government screwing me over. I had over 50+ people woken for me. When I had to make the choice to close down I at least tried to help my former employees find work by doing a out placement for them. Weather they took jobs or not that was not my choice but at least I tried to be a decent human and care for the well being of others. Some how I still cant find work not matter how hard I try so please spear me with your insults. Live a day in my life and then come talk to me with your great job. Please. Remember most of us are decent people trying to make the best out of a shitty position that happened due to no control nor faults of our own. Most of us would gladly shovel shit for penny's on the dollar an I am no different. My ego has been checked at the door a very long time ago seems as if you all need to check yours before you try to judge people more. May god bless each and every one of you. And for those of you that have a nice job I hope in the next coming weeks you all lose yours and then maybe you will feel the pain we are all in. But only this time because of your rudeness and disrespectful comments unemployment will no longer be available for your. Now try to live on that.


Early Music AJ
Comment posted June 21, 2010 @ 7:32 pm

I agree 100% with Rand's “shocking” statements. Where do we think this money comes from?


superpeople
Comment posted June 21, 2010 @ 8:00 pm

I like how Rand compares our unemployment system to Europe but when liberals compare healthcare to Europe's, the response is usually ” This is America, not France” lol. I am so tired of it. Go away Rand.


strangely_enough
Comment posted June 21, 2010 @ 8:19 pm

Paulbots so awesomely facile.


Believe in yourself
Comment posted June 21, 2010 @ 8:20 pm

I thought Rand Paul gave a thoughtful considered response. Headlines only allow for terseness. I understand that. The growth of industry has lagged behind the growth of the government sector far too often. I think we need continued financial incentives to industry to hire the unemployed.

I wish more job training programs sponsored by industry would be set up. Then when you make it out of the unemployment pool, with the help of this type of training program, the right thing to do would be to give back financially to the program to help others so the program can continue to stay strong and function.

It is hard to remain upbeat interviewing amidst rejection. I understand this. It is tough out there but the guy with the sullen face and the best qualifications may get sympathy, but not the job. Also, if you are overweight, try to lose a few pounds. Looks matter more than they should.


webcelt
Comment posted June 21, 2010 @ 8:33 pm

Did you even read the article?


webcelt
Comment posted June 21, 2010 @ 8:34 pm

You've never been long term unemployed. I can tell by your dismissive comment. You also don't get how this drags on the whole economy.


webcelt
Comment posted June 21, 2010 @ 8:37 pm

The reason there aren't more industry sponsored training programs is industry doesn't need to do it. If that was the only way to get trained people I'm sure they would, but when experienced people are lining up for jobs, they can pick who they want and don't need to go to the expense of training. Governments or non-profits might run such training — if they have the funding, because they're thinking long term about preparing trainees for the labor force, but business has no incentive to do that.


monkey99
Comment posted June 21, 2010 @ 9:39 pm

O.K., then.

If you don't like the way the country's being run, move to another country.

Idiot.


TroubleCominEveryday
Comment posted June 21, 2010 @ 9:55 pm

How come you never blame the lazy ass RICH and the “I want to be RICH”, who keep coming up with these devious schemes that throw the whole world into chaos just so they can get rich at somebody else's expense and have all kinds of access, and “Get Out of Jail Free” cards.

It isn't the poor, people on govt programs, or the unemployed who did this. Where are these people in control of anything? Its the BOSS, not the Bossed.
You are the ones who “just don't get it”. You've been PLAYED all your lives. You have been told all your lives that COMPETITION is a good thing, well is it? The Capitalists who freemarketed millions of jobs to some other land, (who are the ones destroying this country?) don't provide enough “jobs” and definitely does not provide enough jobs that pay decently We are forced into competing for everything. Competition makes people divide against each other and devalue each other just like you did to these people, your fellow Americans and this is what is destroying America.


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Mike
Comment posted June 22, 2010 @ 3:30 am

Start a business webcelt.

You hire all the unemployed and see if you can make it with all the government taxes and health care programs you will have to pay for.


Edioe90
Comment posted June 22, 2010 @ 3:34 am

I left the comments above that you responded to. Not only have I been unemployed, I've been so for long periods of time. I've been self employed for the last 20 years, three years ago I was clearing $70,000+ a year, I made $36,000 and $32,000 the last two years and will be lucky to make $30,000 this year if things continue the way the have been. I can't get unemployment, because I work for myself. Yet two of my ex employees get unemployment checks in the mail…. thank to me, as an employer I HAVE to pay state and federal taxes to cover the unemployed. So I pay for others but can't get it myself! I know EXACTLY what the economy and the Bush/Obama polices and spending has done to people, I know first hand. I also have NO PROBLEM with unemployment benefits for an allotted time usually 26 weeks, that's, now the government keeps extending the “benefits” for you guys that work for others, while those of us who provide you with jobs and pay for your unemployment checks are left out in the cold. There is NO reason people should be getting paid NOT TO WORK for many months and now YEARS on end. That's BS, if you can't find another job in a few months than YOU ARE NOT LOOKING HARD ENOUGH!!!! Why do you people who work for others get to sit on your asses and get paid for it when employers like me can't get a penny from the government when I'm out of work? My comments are not dismissive, government in NOT there to hold your hand and tuck you in at night and kiss you on the forehead. Government can lend a helping hand temporarily than you are on your own..AS IT SHOULD BE! Ever hear the song “With a little help from my friends”? The key words there are “a little”. The song isn't called “With a TON of HANDOUTS from your friends”.


Mike
Comment posted June 22, 2010 @ 3:35 am

I don't understand why the unemployed don't start their own business?

Why wait on someone else to hire them?

I think everyone in the country should be an independent contractor.


Edioe90
Comment posted June 22, 2010 @ 3:41 am

I doubt the honesty of your post. I doubt you had to shit down anything because I doubt you ever had a business, If you employed 50 people at one time, you were an employer not and employee and thus you don't qualify for unemployment benefits and thus you would KNOW this and thus you would not post what you did. I haven't seen anyone here accuse anyone of wanting handouts, however there are plenty of people on entitlement programs who not only want, but expect handouts.


webcelt
Comment posted June 22, 2010 @ 4:26 am

You seem to think a slowdown in business is the same as being unemployed. I went through that horrible experience last recession, and you have no idea. That you think you can just sit on your ass and collect money shows you're clueless about this. You are REQUIRED to search for work, and be able to prove you did. You get less than basic living expenses, at least for someone with a dependent, you you just slow down the decrease in your savings. Do you really not get it? The jobs aren't there to be had! When it happened to me, I'd have been happy to to get $30,000. But you know what? Even with extensions, the benefits run out, and you tell people selling possessions to pay rent that they're lazy.


neoconned
Comment posted June 22, 2010 @ 4:28 am

And how do you sell your house when jobs to support a mortgage have disappeared? Want add do not magically appear. Banks are not extending credit for payroll. The Banksters have all of our money and is not lending it back out.


webcelt
Comment posted June 22, 2010 @ 4:32 am

They don't start their own businesses for the same reason they lose their homes, deplete all their savings, borrow where they can to eat: they don't have any money. Besides, if there was so much business to be had, would employers be laying off? Would you extend a loan to someone going into business because they'd lost their job? Start a business with what capital, and sell to whom?


fazsha
Comment posted June 22, 2010 @ 4:47 am

Yes I read the article. Yes, I have been unemployed for 8 months in the past, yes I've lost my job, and yes, I picked up and moved to another town. I've done everything I'm telling you to do. I'm telling everyone the solution to their problem is to go where the jobs are, don't wait for them to come to your town.


webcelt
Comment posted June 22, 2010 @ 5:27 am

That's awful you were unemployed for eights months, and nice that you were able to move. But do you understand that many people can't? Instead complaining about how much money goes to unemployment benefits, you should complain about how BP and the financial industry has unlimited cash to lobby after causing disasters. Unemployment benefits just aren't much compared to what the banksters cost us, yet look at all this crud being thrown at people who have little — certainly not enough to hire lobbyists!


Hillviewky
Comment posted June 22, 2010 @ 10:38 am

Rand's the type of guy that obviously doesn't care about anyone else. Maybe he'll have a good stroke and seize up get his own karma.


Hillviewky
Comment posted June 22, 2010 @ 10:43 am

Where's all those family supporting living wage jobs at? I agree totally and those people making their crappy comments need to have their own karma delivered right back to them. Maybe its an accident or a health condition or they lose their job because someone doesn't like them. That's ok for all of us so let them eat their craptastic sandwich that they so much deserve. As far as receiving unemployment, I don't Edioe has a clue. Just because you don't receive unemployment doesn't make you any less unemployed or in a bad situation. It doesn't take long to lose ones life savings when running a business or anything else especially in an economic collapse. But then again, stupid TeaBaggers will say anything to prove themselves as stupid as they have been the last couple years


Hillviewky
Comment posted June 22, 2010 @ 10:44 am

So where's all those jobs you're Republican hypocrites are crowing about


Hillviewky
Comment posted June 22, 2010 @ 10:46 am

Well with your attitude, let's hope you get a nice dose of karma and end up out on your a@@ and then we'll see whose going to be crying. With the economy going into a double dip, it very well might get you this time and if that doesn't happen lets hope a lot of other maladies end up changing your attitude


Hillviewky
Comment posted June 22, 2010 @ 10:48 am

Guys like that just don't get it. They never been in a position to draw but that's their luck. Just hope his business goes straight into the toilet and he loses it all and then he can see how it feels.


Hillviewky
Comment posted June 22, 2010 @ 10:49 am

Guess that you're not much of a businessman if you can't figure out how to make it or the economy got you. I didn't realize that we already had all these government health care programs limiting employer hiring the last few years. I didn't think it all kicked in until 2012 to 2014. Maybe instead its the lack of business acumen and honesty from some of these scoundrels.


Hillviewky
Comment posted June 22, 2010 @ 10:51 am

Hey Fascist, so you're telling all those people that they should move to North Dakota, Texas, or wherever else while they have a house to still pay for. I guess they could rent it out until no can afford to rent it. Or perhaps the fact is that you people are the most uneducated and stupidest people out there. Stupidity must be your calling in life.


fazsha
Comment posted June 22, 2010 @ 12:10 pm

In my view, few people truly “can't” – most people, when you get down to it, are too scared or just don't want to. If people can move from Ireland to America in the 1800's because of a potato famine, they can certainly move now.


fazsha
Comment posted June 22, 2010 @ 12:11 pm

That's where you're misled – stop paying for a house that isn't worth anything! You lost money! It's worthless, that's why you can't sell it!


Mike
Comment posted June 22, 2010 @ 2:15 pm

You don't need money just need the willingness to work for free, until you can build your capital to the point where you can pay yourself. Trust me I've worked and continue to work many hours for free.


Mike
Comment posted June 22, 2010 @ 2:26 pm

Actually I think he cares deeply for others if you look at history free societies always provide a better life than welfare/warfare states.

People will have to pay the piper threw loss of freedom if they don't get off the government dole through random drug testing what type of food you eat where you have to live.People should take a close look at what’s happening in Venezuela exploding food prices lack of serves government providing for the people will always lead to shortages and rationing.


Mike
Comment posted June 22, 2010 @ 2:33 pm

Maybe you are the businessman we all need to hire us? Please step up to the plate and get it done, stop waiting and blaming others.

I say everyone in the country should be their own businessman instead of needing others to tell them what to do and then getting mad at them when they do it.


Mike
Comment posted June 22, 2010 @ 2:46 pm

You are right about the banksters and lobbyists, I think most of America is on the same page with that stuff it is just the solution is different. We need to get the big bureaucracies off our back First the biggest one of them all the FED which is obviously controlled by the banks.

Don't you see as power is more and more centralized the it makes it easy for the big business to take over and own our bureau’s IE, SEC FED FDA


Paltalk
Comment posted June 22, 2010 @ 3:13 pm

Actually I know people who refuse to work because they have seen their paychecks robbed for so long to give handouts, they figure it's their turn now. When I look at my deductions on my paycheck they are TWICE the ammount of my mortgage payment! WHY am I being robbed to pay for the REAL unemployed as well as the ones who have given up in favor of collecting a check, just because it's easier? What if I drop out too? Who is John Galt?


brbr2424
Comment posted June 22, 2010 @ 3:45 pm

I don't know aout the guy above but I did have a business. I tapped out my home equity adding over 300k to my debt load to meet payroll for my employees. I finally pulled the plug last year and let the last of my employees go. I am getting unemployment because I was an employee of my corporation although I went a year without a paycheck. The suggestion of starting a business shows a lack of understanding of the economy. I just closed a business to my great relief. Running a business costs money and in good times the business owner will typically lose money for the first 5 years. The problem is that the economy shrunk. I'm certainly not going to start a business because having zero monthly net income is way better than having negative 20k monthly net income. People are not spending money and businesses have seen vast reduction in their sales and have had to reduce the number of employees they retain if they stay in business at all. When consumers stop spending and businesses stop spending the only thing that will save the economy is smart spending by the government. If that doesn't happen then maybe you will lose your job too and join the great unwashed also.

People who post obnoxious comments especially Rand Paul have their heads in the sand. They for whatever reason are immune to the effects of the shrunken economy and should quietly count their blessings.


rp421
Comment posted June 22, 2010 @ 4:24 pm

If you run such a successful business, then why are you online taunting the jobless. Classy!


Mike
Comment posted June 22, 2010 @ 6:27 pm

Did you not read the pert about me doing a lot of work for free? I don't know man keep waiting for someone else to help you I hope it works out.


Austindave
Comment posted June 22, 2010 @ 6:46 pm

That's brilliant Einstein, Lets get rid of all the people who want to start up businesses and we'll just keep printing money to hand out to everyone. Government taxes, regulations and market manipulation is what caused all the manufacturing jobs to leave this country. Worldwide economic turns can not happen without government and Central Bank manipulation. Partial reserve banking is fraud! The banks do not care what bubbles are created because it is not their money that they gamble with. It used to be if you wanted to expand your business you needed to have a good product, be innovative and save for the expansion. This kept most businesses local and in turn kept any economic swings local. Now you just have to convince a banker to loan you the money for this expansion. The money that the bank loans is not theirs and if you fail in this endeavor the bank loses someone elses money. The banks, with the help of government subsidies, decide where they want to create the bubbles and can take more chances because of worldwide investors and government protection. Keep taking it out on business owners and we can all compete with each other at the bread lines.


Ererep
Comment posted June 22, 2010 @ 7:27 pm

Rand Paul has his head in the sand? Everyone is effected to varying extents by the economy. Do you know how long it takes, how hard you have to work, the money it costs.. to become a doctor? Don't be upset with Rand just because he chose a profession that doesn't necessarily flounder in a bad economy, though it certainly could, especially when Obamacare hits. I don't know that Rand should be counting (quietly to boot) his blessings. You study hard and work hard for a decade in order to become a doctor, that's not a blessing, it's damn hard work and commitment, oh yeah, and brains. Most people don't have the intellect to become a doctor, blame God for that if you want to, but don't blame Rand Paul. BTW, I'm not even a fan, I like his father though.


Ed
Comment posted June 22, 2010 @ 7:29 pm

Want some cheese with that whine?


Yahiope
Comment posted June 22, 2010 @ 7:31 pm

Ever been to a “whinery” ? you'd fit right in!


Edioe90
Comment posted June 22, 2010 @ 7:42 pm

You sound like nut job or something! Are you living in Bazaaro world? We don't need no stink'n businesses, we're ENTITLED to have food, clothing, shelter, medical care, transportation, vacations, toilet paper, water and heat and gas for our cars! These are all RIGHTS! We don't have to work for them, we are AMERICANS!!!


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Anonymous
Comment posted June 23, 2010 @ 4:49 am

The potato famine is a bad example. A million people out of eight million starved to death. Besides, it was a man-made famine. The landlords took all the crops claiming the rights of private property, and the government refused to help because doing so would have violated free-market economic theory. So it’s a really awful example for the point you’re trying to make. Yes, people are afraid to move and potentially have even worse problems, but that’s basically rational and nothing to fault people for. Nor does everyone have the resources to move. Even the emigrants during the famine were the ones who could pay for passage after selling everything they owned. Those without such resources had nowhere to go.


MEB
Comment posted June 23, 2010 @ 12:10 am

What about those of us who have earnestly looked and found nothing we can do. There are some of us that are 62 and can't just do “any” job that comes along for physical reasons, among others! Also, if we are “overqualified” or “overeducated” for some menial job we won't get hired if we were as fit as Olympic runners! Grow up and look at the facts of the situation (1) the Bush Administration drove us into the financial ditch, (2) Obama came in with a plate full of Bush crap to fix, and he has done a lot of it already and (3) the fault lies with the fact that we are still trying to pull ourselves out of the economic disaster that were the “Bush Years”. Make that into a documentary and then talk about what you would do…take a job, any job. Mr. Hatch, just try it yourself – you're old and experienced…try getting “any” job…..


MEB
Comment posted June 23, 2010 @ 12:12 am

I said Mr. Hatch (who also espouses this crap), but in this instance I should have said Mr. Paul.


Edioe90
Comment posted June 23, 2010 @ 1:09 am

Doesn't care? Then why has he and his father both given medical care pro-bono for years? Err, you probably don't know what that means, look it up.


webcelt
Comment posted June 23, 2010 @ 4:42 am

Actually, I really don't wish hard luck on anyone. I just urge people to try to imagine themselves in circumstances they haven't personally experienced, and to recognize they might then have a very different perspective. Too many of us assume our own experience can be extrapolated to everyone else, and so since we haven't experienced a problem, it isn't real.


webcelt
Comment posted June 23, 2010 @ 5:07 am

I've done that when I had no other choice and had to build a business from scratch with no income. Funny thing though, the landlord wasn't that hot on waiting for the rent. I also had a skill that I could freelance, which most people don't have.


Shnnshn69
Comment posted June 23, 2010 @ 10:22 am

Those of you that think that the unemployed as a whole are fiddling around and not searching for work are likely going to have a wake up call. A lot of you are about to lose your jobs too. The only thing keeping this economy going recently is the unemployment benefits that 1,000,000 plus are getting ready to lose. When that happens, mortgage forclosures are going to go through the roof, and people will have even less money to spend… On the products or services that the company you work for sells.

Guess what happens then…


monkey99
Comment posted June 23, 2010 @ 4:48 pm

The biggest sham with the baggers like Paul is that he can grouse about the unemployed, but has no answers. He wants to do away with UI, but where is his solution to the million-plus going under because of Repugnican idiocy?

That's the trouble with you baggers. NO SOLUTIONS! Just a lot of whining and moaning. Or is it you would do like Sharon Angle wants, and just shoot em'? Because I can guarantee you, they will vote for those who are willing to address their problems. Kicking them when they're down just creates more votes for the party that finds a way out for them.

So, all you baggers, keep up the tantrums and petulant howling. Go ahead, keep it up!


Austindave
Comment posted June 23, 2010 @ 9:03 pm

Not quite sure where your accusation of tantrums comes from but I can sure see that you are an expert at them so I will take your word for it. “The way out” will never come from government. The Government only cares about creating an illusion of their own importance. WE have the power to make life better, not the Government. Many solutions are offered by Constitutionalsts but they involve each one of us once again taking responsibility for ourselves and the people in our communities. I know, sounds outragious but people in this country are generous if given the chance. Before the crimes of the Income Tax and Faderal Reserve acts were perpetrated on the people of this country, People kept what they earned and were able to support their families while other family members volunteered in the community. Schools didn't cost a community $13,000 per student and were filled with people that worked there because they wanted to and not because they had to. The government forced all family members to work to pay for all these schemes at the expense of the community because the politicians feel as they know better than you do of what's important to you. I would love to have the ability to assist my neighbor but the government feels that it is more important that I help out companies, unions and other countries. The government's vast over-reach of it's powers is the cause of all this turmoil and will most certainly not contribute one bit to any recovery without statesmen who will abide by their oath of office. Rand Paul will keep that promise, so it's a good start toward a prosperous and united future for everyone should he win. The fact that he wants to work toward giving us back the ability to take care of each other in hard times only sweetens the deal for me.


monkey99
Comment posted June 23, 2010 @ 9:16 pm

You see? More platitudes, but no answers. No solutions, except Paul's brand of 19th century idealism. Hate to break it to you, but it's the twenty-first century, not the nineteenth.
Tantrum? After all the nonsense coming from the right, as well as you baggers for a year and a half, one gets a bit tired of it. No use reiterating that point here, though.
I guess we'll see in November.


Crisscrossout
Comment posted June 24, 2010 @ 12:21 am

Pay cuts are not the issue Dick! People cant get interviews because no one is hiring- Oh ya! and you have to speak spanish to service the illegals by crooked employers – People from small towns have it BAD! there are no jobs because people AREN'T out spending money and servicing their establishments. NO CUSTOMERS, NO JOBS jerky. So, how did you manage to stay employed because you are a total idiot, ignorant people like yourself need to go jump off a cliff.


Edio9
Comment posted June 24, 2010 @ 4:45 pm

I lived in the basement (a real basement, not a finished one) of an apartment complex and took cold “showers” from a spicket, slept on a table with a sleeping bag. The land lord had no empty apartments, he helped me out the best he could. I ate mustard and bread sandwiches. sounds like a joke, but it’s true. I even got food stamps.. ONCE, and then said to myself… this isn’t the life I want to lead, I have to get it together. I was young, stupid and down and out, depressed and bewildered. I grew up at some point and realized I’m the only one who could get myself out of that situation. It took a long time, but I got my act together. Let me tell you that was REAL, my friend.


justarandom
Comment posted June 24, 2010 @ 2:15 pm

yeah that 19th century idealism called the US Constitution that worked until we started dickin around with it say around the 20th century. Yeah, there's your solution; Follow what the Founding Fathers implemented. It was working, and if ain't broke don't fix it. Guess common sense doesn't really apply to a lot of people these days. They would rather be told what to think than actually think for themselves.


Edio9
Comment posted June 24, 2010 @ 8:40 pm

You’re wrong on both counts. I’ve been out of work for long stretches and it’s not the unemployment that drags the economy down. I’m not sure what you even mean by that statement. Unemployment is a byproduct of a bad economy, bad policy, too much spending and many other things.


Edi09
Comment posted June 24, 2010 @ 4:11 pm

You've got to be kidding? Ron Paul has more solutions than anyone in the history of politics! This guy has introduced numerous bills, championed causes, rallied the public, spoke at length in the media and in chamber about real solutions. He's about the only one who has any idea what this country needs to reclaim it's status in the world. Come out from under your rock.


Edio09
Comment posted June 24, 2010 @ 4:16 pm

Ron Paul has been trying to CUT spending for decades, he's about the only one in congress who understand THIS is what our country needs. Cutting spending for the 60% of federal programs that DO NOT WORK (governments on statistics) would be a HUGE help. Just reducing spending would be a start. End these crazy going nowhere wars and save trillions! How about that for a start?/ That's not a real solution? The biggest problem in this country is GOVERNMENT SPENDING, to curtail that would be to fix 90% of the problems facing America today.


Edio9
Comment posted June 24, 2010 @ 4:18 pm

You think the unemployed are keeping this country going???? Are in the forth grade?


Edei09
Comment posted June 24, 2010 @ 4:30 pm

No one is saying people don't have it bad, but is it everyone else's fault that you didn't save and invest for the golden years over the last four decades? I mean untimely aren't we responsible for ourselves? Isn't that what freedom is? Bush was bad, Obama is worse. I don't owe you part of my pay check, you don't owe me part of yours. If you want to help me out when I'm down, great, I'd do the same for you, many people would. But don't make it law that I have to give you my money just because times are hard. You need help, if you didn't prepare while you were younger then it's tough, but no one's fault but yours. Swallow your pride and turn to family and friends and relatives and churches and charities and neighbors. How do you think people got by when times were tough in the past when there WAS no unemployment benefits, when there was no social security, when there was no medicare? These things are haven't been around that long and they are all bankrupt. How did people survive before them?


monkey99
Comment posted June 24, 2010 @ 4:39 pm

Read the header?

We're not talking about Ron.


monkey99
Comment posted June 24, 2010 @ 4:46 pm

I know that Ron and Rand are father and son, but you need to be able to tell the difference.
Yes, there are areas we can cut spending, like both wars (I'm a two-time Iraq war vet, and now vehemently anti-war). Then send it into INFRASTRUCTURE. Without that, this country won't come out of the recession. Government spending in that area is what's kept this country from tanking, if that escaped your attention.
Telling the unemployed they're out of luck is NOT the answer!


monkey99
Comment posted June 24, 2010 @ 4:47 pm

Everything you just posted could be just as easily applied to you.

Try again.


Edio9
Comment posted June 24, 2010 @ 6:30 pm

You said “that's the trouble with YOU baggers, no solutions” I thought Ron was a bagger to you bleeding hearts?


Edio9
Comment posted June 24, 2010 @ 6:33 pm

It's very hard to have a conversation with someone who believes government spending on infrastructure has kept this country from taking. How on earth can you believe such a ridiculous thing? First of all, the country IS ALREADY IN THE TANK. Second, government spending on infrastructure has only made it WORSE.


monkey99
Comment posted June 24, 2010 @ 6:54 pm

You must then be blind as well as deaf and dumb.

Nothing more to do here…..


monkey99
Comment posted June 24, 2010 @ 6:59 pm

O.K., then.

By your ridiculous assessment, we shouldn't have spent a dime, after the Bush fiasco, just fed the money back into the treasury, and sat on it, while the country went into depression.
You baggers just keep talking stupid things, like they're the answers to the country's ills, when the reality just doesn't support them.
Yes, it IS hard to have a conversation with regressive, naive people.

It's why I'll fight you nuts every step of the way……Thanks for reminding me….I have to get back to my activism.

See ya!


Edio9
Comment posted June 24, 2010 @ 8:33 pm

You're going to fight me every step of the way? You said in your last post “Nothing more to do here….. ” Which is it?

You are right, we should not have spent a dime, not a single dime on bailouts or “stimulating” the economy. Bush had it wrong, Obama has it wrong. I thought Obama assured everyone the 800 billion “stimulus” would create up to 4 million jobs by the end of 2010? Obama said “The Job Impact of the American Recovery and Reinvestment Plan” would bring unemployment BELOW 8 percent in 2009. Here we are halfway through 2010 and a trillion dollars poorer and guess where unemployment stands?

Yeah, the stimulus really helped a lot. And you call me naive? At the very least learn to tie your shoes before you attempt to debate me on the economy.


PhoenixfromJersey
Comment posted June 24, 2010 @ 11:34 pm

In reply to Rand Paul…1st of all…I think any company laying off anyone over the age of 45 & younger than 65 should be FINED…HEAVILY!!! I am one of those who worked 11 yrs faithful service…USES funds were deducted from MY PAYCHECK each week as INSURANCE of lay-off! Now…It's approx 1.5 yrs since my lay-off…I'm 56…Looking for work (and I HAVE BEEN) has been HELL! I even took a “temp to perm” job in hopes to find a new work home…They laid me off after 3 mos! NOW…I'm on EMERGENCY UNEMPLOYMENT COMPENSATION via a re-opening of the original claim…(What happen to all that $$$ taken out my check over the yrs?) I STILL have bills to pay and am NOT looking for a “hand out” as Mr Paul calls it! All I want is a fair chance to find a job without some “border-jumping” greenhorn taking it at a lesser pay! I may not be a “kid” (anyone just out of school), but an experienced, hard-working individual who WANTS to work…Even with “reasonable” pay-cut just to SURVIVE!!! Someone PLEASE tell this high-polluting dude who is probably “comfortably retired that not everyone is a dead-beat! We just want to survive and aren't going to fall off the face of the planet anytime soon to suit him! (Or any other person with the same opinion as him!) As for Mr Obama's “change”…He should keep it and be made to live like people like me who faces losing EVERYTHING they ever worked for in the 1st place! I already keep a TIGHT budget and even clip coupons for things I buy (not “frivolous” items…NECESSETIES!) and have tightened my belt to the MAX! Excuse the cliché but…THERE IS NO MORE that I could cut back on without living in the city park! This country is headed for a revolution! Mark my word! We “peasants” are tire of the B.S. being dished to us! The CHANGE needs a CHANGE! Thank you!


Anonymous
Comment posted June 25, 2010 @ 6:01 am

Unemployment obviously comes after the economy goes bad, but then it reinforces it and holds it down. Someone has to spend money, and unemployed people don’t do that. Employed people who figure they could be next also don’t spend money, and that feeds back into the bad economy. Unemployment insurance benefits are the fastest way to stimulate the economy because unemployed people are almost guaranteed to spend the money. Government jobs just to get any sort of paycheck in someone’s hand also stimulates. So extend unemployment benefits just to keep body and soul together, and jobs for a long term stimulus until the private sector is creating jobs again.


Anonymous
Comment posted June 25, 2010 @ 6:05 am

Of course your experience was real, but what you don’t get is other people’s experience was real too. You’ve been young and unemployed and struggling. Have you tried being middle-aged with a dependent? It’s not the same. Have you tried responsibly saving for retirement and had it all go to basic living expenses? It’s not the same to be in your twenties and have your whole working life to recover, and being older with much less time to rebuild. When the economy is crap, it means a lot of people do everything right and still lose everything. Extending unemployment is just about showing some mercy.


webcelt
Comment posted June 25, 2010 @ 5:19 am

“How did people survive before them?” They sometimes didn't. Look into why the safety net was made. It wasn't for non-existent problems.


Anonymous
Comment posted June 25, 2010 @ 6:52 pm

Utter bullshit, which you would know if you’d bothered to read any history of urban or industrial 19th century America.


Anonymous
Comment posted June 25, 2010 @ 6:53 pm

Not only are you an idiot, you have a heart of stone.


Anonymous
Comment posted June 25, 2010 @ 6:54 pm

And Rand Paul takes government welfare, aka Medicare.


Anonymous
Comment posted June 25, 2010 @ 6:54 pm

Then what’s your answer? Hoovervilles?


Anonymous
Comment posted June 25, 2010 @ 6:55 pm

I dare you to walk into a DET office in Detroit, Michigan, and repeat yourself. You should be ashamed of yourself.


ellid
Comment posted June 25, 2010 @ 6:37 pm

Ron Paul is a libertarian and an idiot. His son Rand is a teabagger, a libertarian, and an imbecile. No way I'd vote for either of them.


ellid
Comment posted June 25, 2010 @ 6:39 pm

And lack of government spending on infrastructure results in situations like the bridge in Minnesota collapsing and killing citizens on their way home from work. Sorry, but I'll take infrastructure over Ron Paul and his acolytes any day.


ellid
Comment posted June 25, 2010 @ 6:40 pm

I work for an economics firm. Trust me, things would be much, much, MUCH worse if the stimulus plan hadn't been passed.


ellid
Comment posted June 25, 2010 @ 6:41 pm

Alas, it's not the 19th century. It's the 21st. Try again.


ellid
Comment posted June 25, 2010 @ 6:42 pm

It's “fourth,” dear. Thought you'd like to know.

And please tell me how 1 million people suddenly not being able to buy food, pay their mortgages and utilities, and spend money on things like gasoline and clothing, HELPS the economy. Thank you.


ellid
Comment posted June 25, 2010 @ 6:44 pm

You heartless piece of CRAP. There are people out there who haven't worked in almost TWO YEARS through no fault of their own! And guess what – THEY'VE ALREADY GONE THROUGH THEIR RETIREMENT SAVINGS!!!!! There's literally nothing left except living in their cars or in a Dumpster because thirty years of Reaganomics and Bush I and II policies have left this country in ruins.


ellid
Comment posted June 25, 2010 @ 6:46 pm

Then GO Galt, shut up, and leave the rest of the country alone. Maybe you'll actually get a chance to read something that isn't juvenile bull pucky by a Russian adulteress.


ellid
Comment posted June 25, 2010 @ 6:46 pm

That's “Bizarro World,” dear. Thought you'd like to know.


ellid
Comment posted June 25, 2010 @ 6:47 pm

What a condescending, snotty post.


ellid
Comment posted June 25, 2010 @ 6:48 pm

And how is someone who's working “for free” supposed to eat, pay the rent, and purchase gasoline if there's no money coming in? Buy office supplies? Pay office rent? Internet access?


ellid
Comment posted June 25, 2010 @ 6:50 pm

Then tell us how you were able to pay for your car, rent, utilities, food, clothing, and supplies if you were working for free. I'd really like to know how you did it, since I tried doing that a few years ago and damn near ended up in a homeless shelter.


ellid
Comment posted June 25, 2010 @ 6:51 pm

“Pro bono” means free of charge. It doesn't mean taking Medicare (which Rand Paul does, regularly).


Edio9
Comment posted June 25, 2010 @ 7:33 pm

You think any company laying off anyone over the age of 45 & younger than 65 should be FINED? You might have liked to live in the Soviet Union, maybe China would be to your liking? Or you can keep praying Obama's plan to socialize America keeps working. you've been out of work 1.5 years and you've been getting paid for not working and you're complaining? You sicken me you unAmerican communist.


Edio9
Comment posted June 25, 2010 @ 7:38 pm

Obama? You're not fooling anyone with your pseudonym (look it up Einstein).


Edio9
Comment posted June 25, 2010 @ 7:40 pm

Wrong, Government is responsible for inspecting all bridges and declaring them safe. It's government regulators who are to blame.


Edio9
Comment posted June 25, 2010 @ 7:42 pm

Ok, Nancy (Pelosi).. I'll trust you…


Edio9
Comment posted June 25, 2010 @ 7:55 pm

Ok, since you're playing school teacher as a result of my brain fart let me help you out.

When referring to numbers less than 10, the correct grammar is to spell the number (i.e. one not 1). In addition you never start a sentence with a conjunction (i.e “And”).

Back to your question:

It doesn't help, I never said it did. However government spending money it doesn't have, adding to our 13 trillion debt, as well as stopping off shore drilling for all oil companies when only one company with a bad safety record (which regulators willingly ignored), as well as passing new banking regulations when they don't even enforce the ones they already have (which would have prevented this depression to begin with) only serves to prolong the agony for both the employed and unemployed.


Edio9
Comment posted June 26, 2010 @ 5:22 am

Bull poop! No ABLE BODIED person has to be out of work for two years or two months. Whine some more. If you haven't worked for two years you're a LAZY BUM! Go cut grass, go wash dishes, go deliver pizza. Do WHATEVER you have to do in order to get by until you find a better job. You expect me to feel sorry for someone whose been sitting at home watching Oprah and eating corn chips and stealing my money???? Go to hell you bleeding heart pansie!


Edio9
Comment posted June 26, 2010 @ 5:27 am

Sorry Sweetie, it's actually “Bizzaro World”. You tried to correct my grammar and got it wrong. That's a double whammy! Don't you feel like a compete and utter moron, now? You certainly look like one.


Pete Mackin
Comment posted June 26, 2010 @ 8:43 pm

If you bankrupt the country, who will bail US out? So to not “worry about debt” is an evil of the common-sense devoid principle of Keyensian Economics. I'm a Michigan resident who was happily assembling tractor engines and transmissions at Terex in Baraga County (now home to the highest unemployment in the nation.

Rather than take unemployment, I got a part time jobs from McDonalds, Manpower, a local church and odd jobs from friends and family as they came up. I moved from a house to a small apartment which was a third of the cost, and I paid off as many credit debts as possible to shrink my monthly expenditures. This all was difficult, but life goes on and we build from here.

Democrats up here are doing everything they can to prevent mining (which has existed for thousands of years in Michigan), to hamper forestry, and global corporate food conglomerates are driving food prices down thanks to the Clinton/Bush globalists, wiping out our agricultural community.

We don't need more unemployment benefits, we need preventative healthcare ONLY; we need infrastructure projects like a restoration of our rail lines; we need to stop creating loopholes for the largest and richest corporations and start applying equal protection under the law to our tax system; we need taxes levied on items to go to the expenses created by those items (i.e. sales taxes from tires, oil changes, car sales, rentals, leases, etc. to go to transportation and not a “general fund”.)

Most of all, we need people with real life experience representing us in our state and national capitols. We need more farmer, doctor, teacher, grocery store owner and miner representatives. Lawyers, community organizers, baseball team owners, real estate sham artists and you know, it's funny – but I can't find out what Nancy Pelosi did for a living before coming to Congress. Not on her site or on Wikipedia. Her husband's a millionaire, and her dad was a mayor, but what her job was I can't find.


Pete Mackin
Comment posted June 26, 2010 @ 8:52 pm

If we went back to year 2000 spending, we could eliminate the IRS and the Income Tax. This would put roughly 37% more income into every working American's pocket each pay period. Tell me that wouldn't boost the economy and get people back to work. Since the 1970's, this idea has come from Ron Paul (and many others.)


Edio9
Comment posted July 3, 2010 @ 7:08 pm

The same way millions of people have done it throughout history. Do you actually think most successful people got it handed to them? Do you actually think most successfully people didn’t have to overcome all of the problems and pitfalls inherent in starting from scratch and that it was “easy” for them? They all started out with a a million dollars and didn’t have to suffer from week to week, month to month, year to year until they finally started making money! Yeah, all the business owners, all the “rich” just had it given to them.


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Comment posted July 14, 2010 @ 12:40 am

will you take a pay cut


Blueskys
Comment posted July 14, 2010 @ 6:37 pm

Two years without work– crazy. Jobs exist, downsize your expectations and get one or move to North Dakota or Texas. Our great grandparents would be horrified at the whining.


Ynotryme
Comment posted July 15, 2010 @ 4:17 am

my wife is a contractor, she doesn’t get any benefits. no vacation or sick days, no health insurance. we live in a right to work state, Texas, which really means the right to be fired without reason


Ynotryme
Comment posted July 15, 2010 @ 4:07 am

do you mean when the robber barons ran America and there was very little middle class


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Comment posted July 15, 2010 @ 3:55 pm

you are a azz.and should get it kicked


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Comment posted July 15, 2010 @ 4:00 pm

ooooooooooooooh big words


Bah
Comment posted July 21, 2010 @ 12:49 am

Blueskys: There's no jobs even in the lowest earning, cheapest places to live in Texas. I know, I'm here.


Rmbeachbum
Comment posted July 26, 2010 @ 1:33 pm

First of all, why don't you for one day week or month, walk in our shoes. The only people who can talk big like yourself is the others who have never gone through this in there live times. #2 you take a pay cut, if you can get a job, even at any fast food place. Go from your earnings to $7.15 hr. Then you have a right to your stinking opinion. From all of us who never asked to be unemployed. Go to hell.

pissed off


Rmbeachbum
Comment posted July 26, 2010 @ 1:37 pm

Are u as stupid as you sound. your in denial,and clueless ):


Geraldstein
Comment posted August 2, 2010 @ 8:49 am

this is ridiculous. These idiots have no idea how embarassing it is to ask for more money but ive worked my whole life helping other people and now i can't even get help for myself. This country is going to communism and socialism. Start stocking up on guns cause that is what the country is going to. Crazyness and kaos. They will never know because they live in there gated community with there stable million dollar job and white picket fence. Lets look on the other side of that fence and ride in our shoes for just a week.


casey
Comment posted August 6, 2010 @ 4:49 pm

Rand Paul is an idiot. I have been unemployed for 16 months, have 25 years professional experience and an MBA and would be happy to take any job, no matter what the pay. I have applied for those and am “overqualified”. I am willing to relocate at no cost to the employer – no luck. I can't sell my house so am making payments from my retirement funds. At the same time I'm paying $464 a month for COBRA which will run out soon.


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Quirky1
Comment posted September 13, 2010 @ 7:26 pm

How old are you ? You are one cold hearted SOB ! When I was younger minimum wage was so low there was no money left over to save for retirement or anything else and as l got older the cost of living kept going up while minimum wage remained low . For those of us born into poverty there was no money for education to get a better paying job . Whatever world you were born into mister you have no clue how some of us live or had to live . Social Security has been around a long time I am 66 and I received my first card as a kid so please your talking the pioneer days . Church’s help ,lol, been there in the past turned down. If you think people as cold hearted as yourself who cry over a few dollars in taxes are going to suddenly become aultristic and generous to their neighbor you are living in self deception. Your heart is closed you wouldn’t help anyone who doesn’t think like you do so be honest about it and own your selfish greedy agenda and stop trying to hide who you really are from yourself .


Quirky1
Comment posted September 13, 2010 @ 7:26 pm

How old are you ? You are one cold hearted SOB ! When I was younger minimum wage was so low there was no money left over to save for retirement or anything else and as l got older the cost of living kept going up while minimum wage remained low . For those of us born into poverty there was no money for education to get a better paying job . Whatever world you were born into mister you have no clue how some of us live or had to live . Social Security has been around a long time I am 66 and I received my first card as a kid so please your talking the pioneer days . Church’s help ,lol, been there in the past turned down. If you think people as cold hearted as yourself who cry over a few dollars in taxes are going to suddenly become aultristic and generous to their neighbor you are living in self deception. Your heart is closed you wouldn’t help anyone who doesn’t think like you do so be honest about it and own your selfish greedy agenda and stop trying to hide who you really are from yourself .


Quirky1
Comment posted September 13, 2010 @ 4:51 pm

Yup and this is the Tea Party's choice ! Are they nuts ? Read between the lines people ,,no empathy there for people its all for big corporations . I wonder if this guy can not even find enough empathy in his entire being to realise that for most people its not about taking a job for lesser pay thats the problem it's that there are no jobs available .Now when you need a roof over your head and food in your stomach and your families you can't just say okay I am too proud I won't take unemployment . BTW does Rand Paul realise that its the people who support the government with their taxes dollars ? So why shouldn't the government take care of these people when they are jobless or whatever the case may be .This is what these fools in the Tea Party want to usher in as our next president ,,a self centered Republican with no empathy for the people in this country whose only interest is helping Big Corporations make even more money and giving them total control of our government .

Get a clue people listen to his words he will not make your life better he will have you living in hell while he smiles and laughs all the way to the bank with that fat check corporate America handed him for the sell out of our country.

Sarah Palin and Beck are just two more people on the corporate worlds bank roll so wake up and use your heads and stop allowing yourself to be used by these people .


Quirky1
Comment posted September 13, 2010 @ 5:11 pm

Okay Mr smartie pants . Now tell me what are people suppose to do when there are no jobs ? Just starve to death quietly and watch their children do the same ?

My guess is you had a heart and brain transplant and both have been replaced by the self serving agenda of the party whose propaganda you have bought hook line and sinker . Now chew on that for awhile . There are more unemployed people than there are jobs .What about that is so hard for you to comprehend ? First of all let me educate that brainless head of yours ,,not all states have been hit as hard as others have ,so in some cities and states there aren't the jobs that you might see in your own .Got that ?


Quirky1
Comment posted September 13, 2010 @ 5:19 pm

Okay lets say we did that . What about the elderly on Social Security and Disabled who can't work ? They would not benefit fron no IRS but they sure would be in one hell of a shape without their Social Security and Disability that your candidate wants to do away with or cut . Have any of you actually sat down and read what these people you want as candidates are proposing as their agenda for government ? Have you ever thought through what their agenda would do to the least able to survive in this country without some kind of government support or social security which they paid into working hard all their lives ? I would like to believe you haven't because if you have then you really are a bunch of cold, heartless, cruel people .


Quirky1
Comment posted September 13, 2010 @ 5:33 pm

Who the heck do you think is funding your Tea Party and Rand Paul and Beck and Sarah Palin if not Fox's Murdoc and the billionair Koch brothers ? Their not funding the Tea Party so you can have better government they are funding the Tea Party to use those people foolish enough to buy people like Rand Pauls BS and put the final nail in the coffin of Freedom and Civil Rights in this country and make it a totally corporate run government .Do you honestly believe these people are just like you ? Not a chance !

Sarah palin is the biggest fake and con person who ever came down the pike .This woman does a photo op with a Elk and her husband and sells it to you as look at me I am just like you ,I hunt and fish and I have christian values .Well not if you ask those who once were close to her before she cut their throat .They there is comedien turned con man and Fox blabbermouth Beck . This guy is on tape making a mockery out of you people and your buying it all . There is no Republican party today that cares about the individual they are all corrupt and there are Dems who are corrupt too although they would never tell you to starve to death rather than ask for help like these guys will ,so at least they still have their hearts even though they might be corrupted by the lobbiests.


Quirky1
Comment posted September 13, 2010 @ 5:52 pm

Your very brave behind that keyboard but I doubt you would say that to a mans face who doing the best he can in a bad situation. Is this all you Tea Prty members have to offer ,,hate and bigotry ? No wonder everyone calls you people ignorant and crazy !


Quirky1
Comment posted September 13, 2010 @ 6:24 pm

Lets see you said Rand paul want to Cut 60% of federal programs that do not work . Do not work for who ? You mean don't work for him and the greedy in this world. For us senior citizens and those who are disabled aas well as the working poor these federal programs are our life boat in a country whose cost of living exceeds our monthly checks ,without them we are on the streets homeless ,hungry and without medical care when we need it . Social Security we paid into all our lives when we worked its no handout ! Hud provides us affordable housing ,Medicare and Medicaid provides us the health care we can't afford to pay for ,food stamps suppliment our checks so we can afford to eat and for us in the cold regions of this country the Fuel Assistance Program helps pay for the high cost of fuel ,,otherwise we would freeze to death .That is reality folks not this garbage your being spoon fed ! If these people like Rand Paul weren't so gung ho on eliminating corporate regulations we wouldn't have the high cost of living we have now and people could live without these programs . These are the same people who pushed for bigger tax cuts for big corp and no tax cut for the middle class and working poor and now they say well lets elliminate all Income tax .Well who will benefit the most from this if not big corp .If you add up the cost of your health care and high rents and mortgages ,etc your measily tax cut would not be enough to pay for anything let alone give you a nest egg to retire on.

If you call this a solution then you are totally out of touch with how the majority of us live .

Do you honestly think these people would be taken care of by the community ,lol, people don't even talk to their neighbors today let alone help them out. When brothers and sisters of different political views can't even help each other because they swallowed this every man for himself BS the Republican party fed them how do you think that will change .Power and control people the corporate world wants the total power to control you and what better way than having total control of the government making you pay whatever price they want you to pay for everything with nobody to regulate them . Now that is the reality of what these people like Rand Paul are selling you and your willing to buy.


Quirky1
Comment posted September 13, 2010 @ 6:33 pm

You want to cut government spending ? Okay then 3/4ths of the budget goes to military spending ,,start there .We don't need wars for oil and we don't need to support countries like Isreal to the tune of millions or even billions a year .You really are cheap when you go after the elderly sick and poor who use a measly 1/4 th of the budget while you say nothing about the out of control military spending,and its not going to the troops and their families either .


Quirky1
Comment posted September 13, 2010 @ 6:57 pm

Excuse me but they didn't live in the same world we live in today with the high cost of living .The average person can't survive on their own like they could in the good old days before the cost of living went through the roof. Believe me I have lived longer than most of you and I have been poorer than most and worked jobs you wouldn't do if you had no job and were offered to do, so I know how much things have changed in this world .I would love to have those days back too because they were much simpler and our air and water was not polluted like it is today , but to do that you would have to go against Rand and Ron Paul's agenda and regulate corporations,utilities , landlords ,banks and mortgage lenders who they want to see with no regulations at all..

His way could never work in the corporate America of today people would be homeless and starving everywhere you looked.


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HAMMER
Comment posted September 22, 2010 @ 12:03 am

WELL I AGREE WITH THE tea party on most issues..we gotta take this Country back!


TheSkeptic
Comment posted November 4, 2010 @ 7:32 pm

Take it back…where? To segregation? The great depression? Or do you mean take it back FROM someone…hmmmm…now who might that be, “Hammer”? From people like me? Who support immediate withdrawal from Iraq? That's 3 trillion dollars the Rethuglicans blew that could have paid for a National Health Care Plan and then some. The Teabaggers are greed-head morons.


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Comment posted November 4, 2010 @ 7:37 pm

Newsflash: Rand Paul's camp announced that he's NOT going to accept the free 5-star government health care normally provided to representatives and their families! I just heard it here in Philly…that's pretty extreme. Has anyone else heard this?


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Comment posted June 3, 2011 @ 4:07 pm

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