America’s Global Outlook, at an ‘Inflection Point’

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Friday, May 28, 2010 at 6:00 am

Ben Rhodes, right, in the Oval Office with Director of Speechwriting Jon Favreau and President Obama (White House photo)

“We’re at an inflection point,” Ben Rhodes observed about the United States’ global outlook, a year and a half into the Obama presidency.

Rhodes speaks from a unique vantage point. He’s the deputy national security adviser for strategic communications, a title that obscures his importance as one of President Obama’s closest and most influential foreign policy advisers. He’s been with Obama since the beginning of his presidential campaign, helping shape and explain the contours of Obama’s foreign policy. And he’s the author of the National Security Strategy of 2010, that policy’s foundational text.

[Security1] The Washington Independent spoke with Rhodes about the document, its implications for American national security, and the “inflection point” it addresses. A lightly edited transcript follows.

The Washington Independent: The National Security Strategy pledges, “We must pursue a rules-based international system that can advance our own interests by serving mutual interests.” How do you build a constituency in the U.S. for that, after decades of that system being caricatured — sometimes accurately — as ineffectual?

Ben Rhodes: The tradition in the United States is actually the opposite. Look at the moment of our maximum global power after World War II. We had a clean slate and we chose to build an architecture of international institutions, international standards, international rules, to include the United Nations, to include NATO, to include international financial institutions, treaties, and to apply our power to strengthening that architecture so that it could solve common problems. And I think there was basically a pretty broad, bipartisan consensus that America was served well by an international architecture that could keep the peace and advance prosperity. Sure, there was skepticism about it — there’s always some skepticism about the international order in parts of the American political culture — but I think there’s a broad tradition of support for that because I think the American people are smart enough to know that if we don’t act within that context, we bear a far greater burden ourselves.

TWI: So this is a matter of reminding people of what’s worked in the past.

Rhodes: We’re at an inflection point. We’re clear-eyed about the shortcomings. We’re not starry-eyed about the efficacy of the international system as it is today. As the president has said many times, it’s in some instances buckling under the weight of challenges it wasn’t designed for. However, that presents you with a choice. And that choice is you can say there are emerging challenges like terrorism, like nuclear proliferation, climate, a global economy that’s more interwoven. We can deal with those challenges by saying that the international system is fatally flawed and we’re going to step outside the lines and deal with these issues on our own on an ad-hoc basis. Or you can say we are going to channel our strength and influence to reshaping an international order where we can effectively deal with these challenges.

TWI: Secretary Clinton said at the Brookings Institution yesterday that the document’s main takeaway should be its assertion that American power is fundamentally tied to the sources of our strength domestically. But we’re still in the midst of extraordinarily challenging economic times, and there are parts of the dignity promotion section about food security, global health and priorities that previous strategies considered peripheral. Is the agenda too ambitious?

Rhodes: No, I don’t think so. We’re actually demonstrating this kind of collective action, in our first 15 months, that we’re trying to describe in the actual document. So international economic coordination can no longer be effectively implemented through the G-8, it’s got to be a broader spectrum of nations at the table, to include both China and India, but also your South Africas, your Brazils, your Indonesias, so it’s the G-20. Climate change can’t be dealt with simply by the Kyoto signatories. You’ve got to bring in all major economies, again, to include China, to include India. So that’s the framework we’ve tried to begin through the Major Economies Forum, through the Copenhagen Accord. It includes us, India, China. So we’re already trying to broaden the circle responsibility to deal with these challenges.

There is a rebalancing of the application of American resources that this administration is pursuing that we describe in the document. We’re rebalancing in terms of the capabilities that we apply to our problems, in the sense that we are prioritizing investments and factors like education, clean energy that have been under-resourced over the years. Our commitment to draw down in Iraq and our plans to go over the hump in Afghanistan will represent a long-term rebalancing of our military deployments, which obviously take up a good deal of resources. So we have already begun to see shifts in resources that we project over time.

The second and very important thing, and this gets back to your first question, is an international order that can successfully deal with challenges necessitates less of an allocation of American resources. You were talking about how you make your case to the American people. You make the case to the American people that collective action is far cheaper to America than unilateral action. I mean, that’s just a fact. And if you look at something like the Food Security Initiative, certainly it’s going to take resources, but we pursue that through the G-8 and into the G-20 to try to leverage greater international action.

Similarly, if you look at the thrust of the dignity promotion and the development policies, a lot of it is trying to see capacity in partners. So that we’ll focus development policy on the kind of economic and social progress that we see as a human rights issue as well as a security issue and a prosperity issue. But frankly, by focusing on building the capacity of our partners, we’re trying through our investments to see progress that will diminish the necessity of foreign assistance over time, insofar as we’re building up the ability of nations to not just combat individual diseases, but to develop their own public health systems. We’re not just trying to help them feed their people in a humanitarian emergency, but the premise of the Food Security Initiative is to help them develop the technique and technologies that will allow them feed themselves over time.

So I think again the burden sharing is a critical aspect of the kind of force multiplication that you can get, again, through an effective international order. Similarly, just as we want more responsible action by a broader circle of nations, we want more capable partners, so that over time that’s the means through which we’re managing these problems.

TWI: I noticed some similarities between the National Security Strategy and the Army/Marine Corps Field Manual on Counterinsurgency, from the focus on legitimacy of action; on taking responsibility for promoting dignity in at-risk populations; and in its recognition that too much hard power can be counterproductive. Did you draw on any of the counterinsurgency lessons of Iraq and Afghanistan when writing the document?

Rhodes: Yeah, absolutely. As the president alluded to at West Point, the war in Afghanistan today is very different in some ways than the war that began nine years ago, as it relates to the nature of the fight and the tactics of the enemy and the lessons that we’ve learned in the application of our power in Afghanistan. And certainly the same would be true in Iraq, that we ended up fighting a war that was different than the kind of war that we, that many people felt like we’d be fighting at the beginning.

So the lessons, I think, we all learned included the importance of the legitimacy of our actions, as it relates not just to the international community but most immediately from the populations of the countries within which we’re operating. So that certainly informs Gen. McChrystal’s approach in Afghanistan, but it informs, again, our approach more broadly, as it relates to Iraq and also other partners that we’re also going to be having to cooperate with on security issues going forward.

TWI: As a strategic communicator, what do you want someone living in Miran Shah, in the tribal areas of Pakistan, who might be caught between the Haqqani network and a government program to degrade that network, to get out of this document?

Rhodes: That the United States is not seeking to control events where they live. Nor do we view their future narrowly through a purely counterterrorism lens. In the first instance, we’re trying to develop the capability in their local area, as well as their national government, to manage the threats within their borders rather than the United States doing so. In the second instance, that we have a broader agenda. We want to speak to their aspirations. America cannot by itself deliver a better life, but it can tilt the scales, as it were, in the direction of greater opportunity, greater human dignity.

We don’t simply have a negative agenda. We have a positive agenda that is focused upon both the capacity of their institutions to manage problems, as well as the dignity that they seek in their own lives.

TWI: If, as the document says, the force of American values is foundational for guiding international cooperation, is there a tension with its embrace of indefinite detention without charge?

Rhodes: Let me take a step back and look at the issues that are touched by this.

We do believe that post-9/11 there were new realities that Americans were going to have to deal with as it related to terrorism and our response to it. Part of the problem is that we have not been able to, as a nation, forge sustainable, durable approaches to dealing with those issues that were effective and that were in line with our values. Now what we’re trying to wrestle with as an administration is the fact that we do need to recognize that there are unique threats that we’re now facing, but that we have to approach those threats and how we deal with them in line with certain principles. And what this administration has said is there may be circumstances where certain individuals who uniquely pose a threat that is demonstrable but that precludes criminal prosecution.

Now, we need to figure out a way to deal with this issue in a way that builds in oversight, that is not simply subject to the decisions of one person or the executive branch, but that is basically embedded in the principles of checks and balances, of oversight, of judicial review, that are at the core of our system. And as the document makes clear at the end, in some of these issues are going to take the actions of all three branches of government, because the executive branch alone can’t make these decisions. That’s been part of the problem in the past. So there needs to be buy-in from the executive branch and from the legislative branch and trying to forge a framework that, again, is durable, that can stand up to the test of our laws, that can protect our security and that, again, can be sustained for future administrations so that we’re not continuing to deal with these issues on an ad-hoc basis but rather within a framework that can absorb the threat of terrorism without overturning the principles of our system.

TWI: Do you expect the guy in Miran Shah to understand that?

Rhodes: I think so. If you are demonstrating that you’re affording rights to individuals and that you are operating within America’s system of checks and balances, of review and oversight, then that’s the case that you make. But I mean, that’s something that we still need to work at as a country. And again, that’s a responsibility that falls squarely on the executive branch but also falls on all three branches of government because this touched on very fundamental but new issues.

TWI: Peter Feaver, who helped write the 2006 NSS, blogged that he had some deja vu reading the 2010 version. His document called for “effective, action-oriented multilateralism to address the challenges of the day: to ‘strengthen alliances to defeat global terrorism and work to prevent attacks against us and our friends’ and to ‘develop agendas for cooperative action with the other main centers of global power.’” Is it fair to say there’s some overlap with the 2006 document?

Rhodes: I’d say a couple of things about that. Number one, there’s always certain forms of continuity in American foreign policy. Number two, there were approaches that were pursued in the latter years of the Bush administration that are certainly closer to the approaches that we’ve pursued than some of the decisions that were taken in the first years of the Bush administration.

But number three, there are also clear distinctions in the approaches that this administration has taken. I mean, I don’t think anybody could stack up the priorities that are embedded in this document as it relates to the focus on the domestic economy as a source of our strength in the world; as it relates to how we define our enemy as narrowly as “al Qaeda and its affiliates”; as it relates to our efforts to end the war in Iraq; as it relates to our focus on climate change and clean energy. I could kinda stack up a whole on a whole number of issues.

And that’s not even meant to be a criticism of Peter’s document, which I think is a good document. It’s meant to say that this document uniquely represents the worldview and the priorities of this president and this administration, which are different in some respects from the previous administration. And I also do think that, again, the cooperative approaches that we’re trying to foster are ones that we believe do represent more specifically the challenges of our times: the global economy, the focus we place on our nonproliferation agenda, the centerpiece of our efforts to apply pressure to nations like Iran. So, you know, I think that, sure, there are areas of continuity in American foreign policy, areas of continuity to, again, the latter years of the Bush administration, and then there are areas of increased distinction and different priorities that are natural to any worldview.

TWI: Finally, one of the criticisms I’ve seen of the National Security Strategy is that it doesn’t prioritize amongst its wide-ranging goals. As a foundational text across the national security bureaucracy, how will the government know how to implement the document?

Rhodes: Within the document you have a clear sense of the focus of the administration and how that relates to resource allocation. We’ve sent pretty clear signals about areas that are going to be prioritized going forward, while also recognizing the limits of what any one nation can do around town. Which again gets to some of the rebalancing around our military deployments, it gets to some of the burden sharing that we’re trying to foster, it gets to some of the deficit reduction that’s embedded in health care and other things that we’re doing.

On implementation, the Bush documents are much shorter. We made the decision to encompass what really are our key priority initiatives, so that the things that are listed in here represent our priorities This document can basically serve as a measuring stick that I think we would be happy to turn to in six months or a year or several years and say: How did we do in implementing this part of what we said was fundamental to our National Security Strategy? I think that it does stake out those priority areas that are important to us, that are important to American national security, and that we expect to measure ourselves against going forward. So it starts as a strategy document and then it turns into an implementation document.

Now, aside from that, I think these are actions that need to be taken in concert with other nations. And to try to make them into a list wouldn’t kind of effectively capture the nature of national security in 2010. We are moving in a concerted way on just about everything that is in that document. So I think we’re providing the blueprint.

TWI: Oh, good, because that allows me to make the Jay-Z reference.

Rhodes: Yeah, exactly. Blueprint 4: the National Security Strategy.

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[I]ndividuals who uniquely pose a threat that is demonstrable but that precludes criminal prosecution.

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Iranian president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, has decided the mothers of US prisoners in an Iranian jail should be able to see their children.

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GOMENESAI TOUR II

[GOMENESAI]

So as not to confuse anyone other there that actually reads any of my rantings, the word Gomenesai is the Japanese word which in English translation mean [I’m Sorry], and once again the [PM] Prime Minister of Japan made a trip to the Japanese Island of Okinawa and was said too have been saying [I’m Sorry] every other word to the Japanese officials and people of that island, and for those who have made the mistake of reading these rantings for the first time it is because to get elected in September of [2009], the [PM] had given his word all Israeli-American Empire know as the [THE EMPIRE] troops of occupation would be ordered off of all Japanese soil. But, seeing as they are troops of occupation and not really guests, guests after all you can show to the door, with a smile and handshake goodbye, but are really troops of occupation, aren’t going anywhere, and so say’s both the former, [EMPIRE] Ambassador to Japan Thomas Schieffer, and Guam Senator Judith P. Guthertz, who is the chair of the Committee on Military Buildup and Homeland Security in the Senate, with a threat to the Japanese [PM] of he would have a lot to lose if the agreement is not honored, will Tom Schieffer, flat came right out with it that quote, you can negotiate all you want to, but until a replacement facility is built, Futenma is going to continue to stay right where it is, unquote, which is to say that [The Empire’s] troops of occupation are not only going to stay in Japan on Japanese soil but unless they have a new base built like they want, they are going to just stay exactly were they now sit, thank-you very much. And now Japan and especially the Island of Okinawa has the distinction of being Cuba of the East or, another Island country that the [EMPIRE] just doesn’t know when to leave.

[WERE NOT LEAVING]

Now, the Japanese government is a Parliamentary Government, the Japanese call it a Diet, which means you have to cob together a group to make up the government, and if someone leaves well the government falls and you have another election, to replace it. The present Japanese Government has a coalition called the Hatoyama’s and they are as hot as a Black Topped Road in the middle of the Mojave Dessert in California in the middle of July, they are seething over all this. And the leader of the party that wants to pull out Ms. Muzuho Fukushima, leader of the [SDP] Social Democratic Party, and the party’s Diet affairs chief Kantoku Teruya are looking to not only pull out of the government and resign their government positions, if the [EMPIRE] troops of occupation are not shown the door and told its time to go home, which leaves the people of Japan with no light at the end of the tunnel for ending of their occupation.

[NO END IN SIGHT]

With no light at the end of the tunnel of occupation, and with the central government of Japan, the Emperor or his Diet taking action, well that leaves no other alternative but for the people of Japan to take matters once again into their own hands as they did in [16th] Sixteenth Century Japan, which can be seen in the movie the Seven Samurai by Akira Kurosawa, in which the villagers welcomed the by then hated Samurai into their villages gave them all the Saki [Bose], they could drink and then dispatched them to the here after, and their bodies were never to be found, and of course the local officials were more than willing to round up the usual suspects if any could be located like Casablanca, for questioning with the usual your guess is as good as mine, we don’t know. The Bottom line is no occupied peoples are going to remain so, with no light at the end of the tunnel, with or without outside assistance, and there are more than one Asian country willing to provide any assistance asked for, the enemy of my enemy is my friend, aide will flow to assist, but freedom can only be gained at one’s own hands, not trading one master for yet another, it is a time of decision for the people of Japan, that has been forced upon them; accept continued occupation, or a [RA] Resistance Army, an [OAR/JAR] Okinawa Army of Resistance /Japanese Army of Resistance, the choice is that of the people of Japan, Victory over the Occupation or Victimization of it.

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Comment posted May 29, 2010 @ 4:19 pm

The new policy sounds good. Provided we (the President) can walk the walk. He has always been able to talk the talk.

Strength at home is another way of saying follow the Constitution, the Bill of Rights and our international obligations under treaty law.

It will take a lot of political courage to make the above the guiding principles in our political climate of fear first after political party and the national good last.

I am not optimistic about Obama and his administration being able to stand up to the politics when it comes to closing Guantanamo, Alternate “Justice” systems (Military Commissions),, stopping domestic spying, military action before diplomacy, etc.

Our public, in its reaction to the fear our politicians use to gain their ends, demand radical solutions, thus we have a “WAR ON…” instead of a non-flamboyant diplomatic and/or humanitarian aid initiative.

Hopefully the inability to use the military in every country where Al Queda shows up and the lack of money will tend to stiffen the political spine.

Obama has always been good at the talk the talk, now that he has done that part we'll see if he can walk the walk.

A PR campaign on educating the public on the dangers of governing by fear would be a good start. A campaign on how bullets, bombs and unmanned weapons can't change the hearts and minds of anyone, but can create new terrorists would help. A full court press on returning to the Constitution, the Bill of Rights and our treaty obligations would certainly be a good sign.

Go for broke!!! Or it will all just go down as another pre-election PR job.


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HERCULE TRIATHLON SAVINIEN
Comment posted May 30, 2010 @ 5:39 pm

RISING SUN BREAKS OVER MT.FUJIYAMA

[THE SAMURAI SPIRIT AWAKENS]

There is an old Japanese tale about Mt. Fujiyama, the mountain abounding with warriors, that if the people of Japan were to burn their letters of grief upon its summit they would rise to the heavens, where their pleas would be answered, the wheel of fate would be turned their sadness would pass, the heavens would be compassionate, and the feather robe of would be placed on the nation, and the warriors of mountain would arise to defend the people. Now, [2.7K] Two-Thousand Seven hundred, in total, with smoking hot anger rising to the sky, Japanese gathering to protest against the continued presence of Israeli-American Empire simply know as the [EMPIRE,] Foothold Far East Troops of Occupation on Japanese soil, the Land of the Rising Sun, may not seem as colorful as Samurai Warriors flowing down from the mountain abounding with warriors but it doesn’t make any less a stirring event. The spirit of the Samurai is once again filling the Land of the Rising Sun.

[CLEAR AND PRESENT CONFRONTATION]

The Ire of the Japanese people was finally brought to the point where there can no longer be any middle ground, as the [SOSE] Secretary of State to the Empire Hillary Diane Rodham-Clinton, in her usual My Way or the Highway performance, ignored, downplayed and brushed aside the overwhelming Japanese peoples demands that the [EMPIRE’S] troops of Foothold Far East be removed from the soil of Japan, that the occupation of Japan be ended. But, The Clinton State Department forced the signing of the so called [2006] Japan-U.S. Roadmap for Realignment Implementation, and more than just kicking the can down the road, has lit the fuse to the powder keg of Japanese private citizens and Ire over the continued occupation of their country, a slap to the face of the Japanese people, leaving Japan with no face saving option beyond that of total confrontation and actions of resistance, this no longer about having the problems caused coming back to haunt both Japan and the [Empire] at some distant far date this is a Clear and Present Confrontation, between the people of Japan its Central Government, with the Japanese People questioning who’s interests are being served by that Government the will of the Japanese People or the interest of the Israeli-American Empire, the interests of the Mega- Metropolis New York City and Washington, D. C. or the People of Japan, and this time it may well go beyond the fall of the Japanese Parliamentary Government called the Diet.

[MY WAY OR THE HIGHWAY DIPLOMACY]

The Japanese [PM] Prime Minister Yukio Hatoyama of the [LDP] Liberal Democratic Party and son of former [PM] Ichiro Hatoyama, was elected to that Position from the [9th] District of Hokkaido, on the platform and promise that all the [EMPIRE] Troops of Foothold Far East Occupation would be removed from the soil of Japan, is now seen as having brought shame too himself and his family name, the house of Hatoyama, and Japan The ancestor’s of the Hatoyama family will be crying, Yukio Hatoyama is a liar, and any agreement reached by the [PM] does not represent the will of the People of Japan which is Japan, and the Japanese peoples direct representatives to the Central Government of Japan, and the Emperor of Japan, are no longer to engage in negotiations, and agreements being made over their objections and heads but are now saying that the entire process was nothing more than a scam, that will meet with the resistance of the Japanese people, who will with the hearts and determination of the Samurai are willing lay their lives on the line, to ensure that the chance of the implementation of the odious Clinton [2006] Japan-U.S. Roadmap for Realignment Implementation, is Zero, and there will only be future bilateral cooperation between the [Empire] and Japan only when, all [Empire] Foothold Hold Troops of Far East Occupation are removed from the soil The Land of The Rising Sun and then only when such cooperation serve the interests of the Japanese People. The Central Government of Japan signed an Agreement with [SOSE] Hillary Diane Rodham-Clinton, which has been null and void by the People of Japan, and is no longer worth the paper upon which the agreement was written, the question that Hillary now faces is was the My Way or The Highway Confrontational Diplomacy worth the present and future consequences caused by it?

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Comment posted May 30, 2010 @ 9:06 pm

Ben Rhodes: “Now what we’re trying to wrestle with as an administration is the fact that we do need to recognize that there are unique threats that we’re now facing, but that we have to approach those threats and how we deal with them in line with certain principles.”

So because of this threat, you wish to through out due process and along with it the rule of law? Do you realize what kind of national security threat that imposes? You are saying that you can hold anyone, innocent or guilty, indefinitely. That is weak and backwards. Fix it, or we will have big problems. Are you trying to cause problems or fix things?

Tossing out due process is something that vicious dictators do. I think it's high time that this terrrorism issue be turned ove to interpol and the international courts. The U.S. government is acting very inappropriately and not listening to the people they are supposed to be representing. Who gave YOU permission to throw out the rule of law? And now you want to bring this back home to this country? I don't think so.


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WHAT’S THE SCOOP?

[WHAT’S THE SCOOP?]

Now, we got an E-mail from David Scott of (http://www.Freethegods.blogspot.com), and it read David Scott has left a new comment on your post “GOMENESAI TOUR II”: So what’s the big scoop on the current situation with the Korean Conflict? Well Dave should have know better we did a dump job on the poor guy, for which we should say were sorry, but we sort of got a kick out of it. So what is the big scoop about the on going Korean Conflict, it’s all political theater, the Israeli-American Empire, simply know around the world as the [EMPIRE], is in an increasingly rapid state of decline, and to stay in the game at all need to maintain it’s [2] Two Footholds, the European Foothold in Germany, along the Russian Federations Sphere of Influence, and in the Far East in Japan the now Cuba of the Far East, neither Cuba nor Japan want [Empire] Foothold Troops of Occupation on their soil. The [EMPIRE] is aware that the day they lose one of the [2] Two Footholds they lose both of them, and they are losing rapidly their Foothold Hold in Japan, and the [SOSE] Secretary of State of the Empire, Hillary Diane Rodham- Clinton is doing a great job of almost single handily prying that Foothold out of Japan, With her My Way Or The Highway Non-Diplomatic State Department, yes Hillary got her signed agreement, but its something like the time [FDR] Franklin D. Roosevelt had it out with the Supreme Court, they handled down a ruling against [FDR] and the old boy just looked at them and said now enforce it! Now, we will quote ourselves from a previous posting, The Ire of the Japanese people was finally brought to the point where there can no longer be any middle ground, as the [SOSE] Secretary of State to the Empire Hillary Diane Rodham-Clinton, in her usual My Way or the Highway performance, ignored, downplayed and brushed aside the overwhelming Japanese peoples demands that the [EMPIRE’S] troops of Foothold Far East be removed from the soil of Japan, that the occupation of Japan be ended. But, The Clinton State Department forced the signing of the so called [2006] Japan-U.S. Roadmap for Realignment Implementation, and more than just kicking the can down the road, has lit the fuse to the powder keg of Japanese private citizens and Ire over the continued occupation of their country, unquote.

[THE LATEST MOVE’S]

The [EMPIRE] media is covering the Far East mostly do to the fact it’s so bad, Hillary doesn’t want it covered but here’s how its shaking out;

* The latest Japanese Government which is Parliamentary is coming apart which will mean a new election in September and the [EMPIRE] and Hillary in particular has caused a bigger headache then they now have, they didn’t like the present government of Japan, we tend the believe that they are going to really hate the next one, and that election is in [120] days.

* And the [EMIC] Empire Military Industrial Complex is sticking it to the [PRC] Peoples Republic of China Sphere of Influence for not backing them on Sanctions against the [PRK] Peoples Republic of China in the [UN] United Nations, Ya! Like that was really going to happen, but the [EMPIRE] arm twisted the present government of Japan into letting [EMPIRE] military assets in particular [59] Fifty-Nine [Empire] carrier Fighter Aircraft, which the Nationalist Chinese Island of Taipei says its not going to accept or put up with as the Japanese are extending its [ADIZ] Air Defense Identification Zone, a line that a military aircraft must first provide flight details to the national airspace into which it is entering or will meet with prompt interception by military means, in other words they could use what ever means to take it down. Now, for those of you who can’t quite grasp the concept, Israeli-American Empire fighter aircraft become legal targets of the Nationalist Chinese, but that also means the Red Chinese, mainland government has that right, as they consider the Nationalist Chinese Island as their territory, including its airspace.

[GUAM]

Now, most [Jar Heads] Marines like Gibbs from the American Television Series, [NCIS] Naval Criminal Investigative Service came from one of those town that standing under the one traffic light in town, that had a constant speed trap and if you drove one kilometer over or under the speed limit you when in front of the local barber shop judge who gave you a stiff fine, and from that point beneath the traffic signal one could see the town limits in both directions, and that is why they joined the Marines to get away from it. Well, Guam is that one traffic light town but the only difference the edge of town drops off for leagues into the Pacific Ocean with a lot of big sharks, and for a female its like Jimmy Buffets song Sharks to the left, Sharks to the right and you’re the only meal in town. A family sent to Guam either comes back with more in the family, or no longer a family due to D-I-V-O-R-C-E. The advantage to the one traffic light town there is a way out, and if you run out of something you can simple drive down the road and get it, it don’t work that way in Guam, you run out, guess what you have to wait until a supply ship or cargo plane fly’s more in. So what does this have to do with anything Guam Senator Judith P. Guthertz, who is the chair of the Committee on Military Buildup and Homeland Security in the Senate, got [8K]Eight Thousand Marines relocated from Japan to Guam, you got it [8K] more Marines in a one traffic light community, at taxpayer expense with [EVERYTHING] having to be provided from large distances at cost, big costs

[PILE NOT SCOOP]

So, my only reply to David Scott of (http://www.Freethegods.blogspot.com), this whole thing is not a scoop of horse manure, it’s a massive pile of horse, manure. The short term gains in no way out weight the long term losses created by the hurry up and get it done My Way Or The Highway Clinton mantra, see we have an agreement, now lets see how much of it is implemented.

HERCULE TRIATHLON SAVINIEN


YoursTruly
Comment posted May 31, 2010 @ 9:41 pm

In President Obama's executive order to close down Gitmo, he stated the following:

“The individuals currently detained at Guantánamo have the constitutional privilege of the writ of habeas corpus.” – http://www.whitehouse.gov/the_press_office/Clos…

Isn't habeas corpus a fundamental human right? When the Supreme Court handed down their decision that terror suspects do indeed have a right to habeas corpus, they stated the following:

“Liberty and security can be reconciled; and in oursystem they are reconciled within the framework of the law. The Framers decided that habeas corpus, a right of first importance, must be a part of that framework, a part of that law.” – http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/07pdf/06-1…

How is indefinite detention without being charged, or as stated in the 2010 National Security Strategy, detainees who cannot be prosecuted within the framework of the constitution? When the Uighur detainees were released from Gitmo, U.S. District Judge Ricardo Urbina said that the U.S. Constitution prohibits indefinite detention without cause. – http://in.reuters.com/article/idINIndia-3584562…

The 5th amendment reads:

“No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law.”

And the 6th amendment guarantees trial by jury:

“In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defense.”

So, Mr. Rhodes, when you say:

“So there needs to be buy-in from the executive branch and from the legislative branch and trying to forge a framework that, again, is durable, that can stand up to the test of our laws, that can protect our security and that, again, can be sustained for future administrations so that we’re not continuing to deal with these issues on an ad-hoc basis but rather within a framework that can absorb the threat of terrorism without overturning the principles of our system.”

You are not being straight forward. It is President Obama that is now the one running on an ad-hoc basis and overturning the princples of our system by detaining people indefinitely without charge. I don't like terrorists, in fact I loathe them, but I am not willing to sacrifice the principles which our Constitution was founded just so the President has dictatorial powers to get them thar terrists, all while this tactic (along with torture) seems to be creating more of them. I would rather we try them, and if found guilty, then you can detain them indefinitely (or punish otherwise according to the crime) as is laid out in the Constitution.

You can't have my Constitution. I won't let you take it from me, and you don't have the AUTHORITY to take it from me or anyone else. Where's that “change” I can believe in? I'm more afraid of a dictatorial President that would trash the fundamentals of the U.S. Constitution than a terrorist on any day of the week.

You remember Dubya telling us about how these terrorists hate us for our freedoms and want to take our freedom away and how we can't let those terrorists win at taking away our freedoms? It wasn't the terrorists who tried to take those freedoms.


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