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		<title>By: Frank petronis</title>
		<link>http://washingtonindependent.com/841/energy-talk/comment-page-1#comment-19251</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank petronis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 11:24:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to speak to Mr. Julian Zelizer, on Bio Diesel, The Jatrop[ha plant, and Wachovia and A.G.Edwards, prudential, now 21 mergers later to Wells Fargo ? Wash all the $400 Billion of loss&#039;s and Manipulated prices of CD&#039;s and their Option and Sub-Prime accounts, and Bankers to Brokers tripling their salaries,?&lt;br&gt;Mr. Lanty Smith CEO, to Robert Steel to $ONLY 10 Billion loss? &lt;br&gt;Worked in the industry 45 years, I have a lot to Reveal, Unfold, and SHOW the FBI and SEC Just where to LOOK.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Frank    Phone # 610-691-0804e-mail   &lt;a href=&quot;mailto:nuvo74@aol.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;nuvo74@aol.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.biodieselfuelcorp.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.biodieselfuelcorp.com&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to speak to Mr. Julian Zelizer, on Bio Diesel, The Jatrop[ha plant, and Wachovia and A.G.Edwards, prudential, now 21 mergers later to Wells Fargo ? Wash all the $400 Billion of loss&#39;s and Manipulated prices of CD&#39;s and their Option and Sub-Prime accounts, and Bankers to Brokers tripling their salaries,?<br />Mr. Lanty Smith CEO, to Robert Steel to $ONLY 10 Billion loss? <br />Worked in the industry 45 years, I have a lot to Reveal, Unfold, and SHOW the FBI and SEC Just where to LOOK.</p>
<p>Frank    Phone # 610-691-0804e-mail   <a href="mailto:nuvo74@aol.com" rel="nofollow">nuvo74@aol.com</a><br /><a href="http://www.biodieselfuelcorp.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.biodieselfuelcorp.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: johnlewismealer</title>
		<link>http://washingtonindependent.com/841/energy-talk/comment-page-1#comment-3388</link>
		<dc:creator>johnlewismealer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 23:34:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is only ONE way to solve the problem:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;JOHN McCAIN</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is only ONE way to solve the problem:</p>
<p>JOHN McCAIN</p>
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		<title>By: jrbehrman</title>
		<link>http://washingtonindependent.com/841/energy-talk/comment-page-1#comment-3387</link>
		<dc:creator>jrbehrman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 08:14:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The irony here was that Carter had both effective energy and military reform policies, bi-partisan ones, in fact, that paid-off for this country about a decade later.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But, he was killed by the bureaucratic, interest-group, legislative, international, and media politics of all of it.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We need sound politics driving sound policies. Sound policies alone, like infantry with no artillery or air, will get cut down.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That is how I am hoping Obama will be different from Carter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The irony here was that Carter had both effective energy and military reform policies, bi-partisan ones, in fact, that paid-off for this country about a decade later.</p>
<p>But, he was killed by the bureaucratic, interest-group, legislative, international, and media politics of all of it.</p>
<p>We need sound politics driving sound policies. Sound policies alone, like infantry with no artillery or air, will get cut down.</p>
<p>That is how I am hoping Obama will be different from Carter.</p>
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		<title>By: mischa</title>
		<link>http://washingtonindependent.com/841/energy-talk/comment-page-1#comment-3386</link>
		<dc:creator>mischa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 23:05:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh well!</description>
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		<title>By: mischa</title>
		<link>http://washingtonindependent.com/841/energy-talk/comment-page-1#comment-3385</link>
		<dc:creator>mischa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 23:01:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember that time, and that speech.  It was one of President Carter&#039;s finest moments.  It might have been a turning pont for our country and the world.  But Americans were not ready to hear the truth and respond to it with rationality and altruism, and reactionaries twisted his words and tarred and feathered him in the press. Chief among the reactionaries were the moneyed oil and arms interests - read Bush and Company.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;     Apparently it was just not the time for rationality and progressive, just policy.  It was not yet the time for Americans to accept a shift in their short sighted and wasteful life style&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;     Quoting Jimmy Carter:  &quot;We simply must balance our demand for energy with our rapidly shrinking resources. By acting now, we can control our future instead of letting the future control us.&quot; Carter bluntly pointed out that: &quot;The most important thing about these proposals is that the alternative may be a national catastrophe. Further delay can affect our strength and our power as a nation.&quot; He called the new energy policy he was proposing, &quot;The &#039;moral equivalent of war&#039; -- except that we will be uniting our efforts to build and not destroy.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;     &quot;With the exception of preventing war,&quot; said Jimmy Carter, &quot;this is the greatest challenge our country will face during our lifetimes.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;     Carter was right then, and the world situation today would be unimaginably better, unrecognizable from today&#039;s world, had we heeded his words and followed his leadership three decades ago.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;     (I am reminded of the contrast between the two unfoldings of the fictional iconic town Bedford Falls depicted in Frank Capra&#039;s classic film &quot;Its A Wonderful Life.&quot;  One outcome with, and one without, the benevolent influence of Jimmy Stewart&#039;s character.)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;     Perhaps President Obama will be able to pull off what President Carter could not three decades ago.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;     Another great article which also served as a reference for the above:  &quot;Carter Tried To Stop Bush&#039;s Energy Disasters - 28 Years Ago&quot; by Thom Hartmann (2005)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;     &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0503-22.htm&quot;&gt;http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0503-22.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;     The full text of Carter&#039;s speech:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;     &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/carter/filmmore/ps_energy.html&quot;&gt;http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/carter/filmmore/ps...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember that time, and that speech.  It was one of President Carter&#39;s finest moments.  It might have been a turning pont for our country and the world.  But Americans were not ready to hear the truth and respond to it with rationality and altruism, and reactionaries twisted his words and tarred and feathered him in the press. Chief among the reactionaries were the moneyed oil and arms interests &#8211; read Bush and Company.</p>
<p>     Apparently it was just not the time for rationality and progressive, just policy.  It was not yet the time for Americans to accept a shift in their short sighted and wasteful life style</p>
<p>     Quoting Jimmy Carter:  &#8220;We simply must balance our demand for energy with our rapidly shrinking resources. By acting now, we can control our future instead of letting the future control us.&#8221; Carter bluntly pointed out that: &#8220;The most important thing about these proposals is that the alternative may be a national catastrophe. Further delay can affect our strength and our power as a nation.&#8221; He called the new energy policy he was proposing, &#8220;The &#39;moral equivalent of war&#39; &#8212; except that we will be uniting our efforts to build and not destroy.&#8221;</p>
<p>     &#8220;With the exception of preventing war,&#8221; said Jimmy Carter, &#8220;this is the greatest challenge our country will face during our lifetimes.&#8221;</p>
<p>     Carter was right then, and the world situation today would be unimaginably better, unrecognizable from today&#39;s world, had we heeded his words and followed his leadership three decades ago.</p>
<p>     (I am reminded of the contrast between the two unfoldings of the fictional iconic town Bedford Falls depicted in Frank Capra&#39;s classic film &#8220;Its A Wonderful Life.&#8221;  One outcome with, and one without, the benevolent influence of Jimmy Stewart&#39;s character.)</p>
<p>     Perhaps President Obama will be able to pull off what President Carter could not three decades ago.</p>
<p>     Another great article which also served as a reference for the above:  &#8220;Carter Tried To Stop Bush&#39;s Energy Disasters &#8211; 28 Years Ago&#8221; by Thom Hartmann (2005)</p>
<p>     <a href="http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0503-22.htm">http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0503-22.htm</a></p>
<p>     The full text of Carter&#39;s speech:</p>
<p>     <a href="http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/carter/filmmore/ps_energy.html">http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/carter/filmmore/ps&#8230;</a></p>
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		<title>By: mischa</title>
		<link>http://washingtonindependent.com/841/energy-talk/comment-page-1#comment-3384</link>
		<dc:creator>mischa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 22:49:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(Let&#039;s try this again - there seems to be a glitch with how my comment above was posted.  (Webmaster: Please check the programming of your POST COMMENT feature!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(Let&#39;s try this again &#8211; there seems to be a glitch with how my comment above was posted.  (Webmaster: Please check the programming of your POST COMMENT feature!)</p>
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		<title>By: mischa</title>
		<link>http://washingtonindependent.com/841/energy-talk/comment-page-1#comment-3383</link>
		<dc:creator>mischa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 22:41:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember that time, and that speech.  = It was one of President Carter&#039;s finest moments.  It might have been a turning pont for our country and the world.  But Americans were not ready to hear the truth and respond to it with rationality and altruism, and reactionaries twisted his words and tarred and feathered him in the press. Chief among the reactionaries were the monied oil and arms interests - read Bush and Company.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Apparently it was just not the time for rationality and progressive, just policy.  It was not yet the time for Americans to accept a shift in their short sighted and wasteful life style&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Quoting Jimmy Carter:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt; &quot;We simply must balance our demand for energy with our rapidly shrinking resources. By acting now, we can control our future instead of letting the future control us.&quot; Carter bluntly pointed out that: &quot;The most important thing about these proposals is that the alternative may be a national catastrophe. Further delay can affect our strength and our power as a nation.&quot; He called the new energy policy he was proposing, &quot;The &#039;moral equivalent of war&#039; -- except that we will be uniting our efforts to build and not destroy.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;With the exception of preventing war,&quot; said Jimmy Carter, a man of peace, &quot;this is the greatest challenge our country will face during our lifetimes.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;He was right then, and the world situation today would be unimaginably and unrecognizably better had we heeded his worlds and followed his leadership three decades ago.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Perhaps President Obama will be able to pull off what President Carter could not.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Reference:  &quot;Carter Tried To Stop Bush&#039;s Energy Disasters - 28 Years Ago&quot; by Thom Hartmann (2005) &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0503-22.htm&quot;&gt;http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0503-22.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The full text of Carter&#039;s speech: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/carter/filmmore/ps_energy.html&quot;&gt;http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/carter/filmmore/ps...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember that time, and that speech.  = It was one of President Carter&#39;s finest moments.  It might have been a turning pont for our country and the world.  But Americans were not ready to hear the truth and respond to it with rationality and altruism, and reactionaries twisted his words and tarred and feathered him in the press. Chief among the reactionaries were the monied oil and arms interests &#8211; read Bush and Company.</p>
<p>Apparently it was just not the time for rationality and progressive, just policy.  It was not yet the time for Americans to accept a shift in their short sighted and wasteful life style</p>
<p>Quoting Jimmy Carter:</p>
<p> &#8220;We simply must balance our demand for energy with our rapidly shrinking resources. By acting now, we can control our future instead of letting the future control us.&#8221; Carter bluntly pointed out that: &#8220;The most important thing about these proposals is that the alternative may be a national catastrophe. Further delay can affect our strength and our power as a nation.&#8221; He called the new energy policy he was proposing, &#8220;The &#39;moral equivalent of war&#39; &#8212; except that we will be uniting our efforts to build and not destroy.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;With the exception of preventing war,&#8221; said Jimmy Carter, a man of peace, &#8220;this is the greatest challenge our country will face during our lifetimes.&#8221;</p>
<p>He was right then, and the world situation today would be unimaginably and unrecognizably better had we heeded his worlds and followed his leadership three decades ago.</p>
<p>Perhaps President Obama will be able to pull off what President Carter could not.</p>
<p>Reference:  &#8220;Carter Tried To Stop Bush&#39;s Energy Disasters &#8211; 28 Years Ago&#8221; by Thom Hartmann (2005) <a href="http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0503-22.htm">http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0503-22.htm</a></p>
<p>The full text of Carter&#39;s speech: <a href="http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/carter/filmmore/ps_energy.html">http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/carter/filmmore/ps&#8230;</a></p>
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		<title>By: ajm8127</title>
		<link>http://washingtonindependent.com/841/energy-talk/comment-page-1#comment-3382</link>
		<dc:creator>ajm8127</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:05:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Being born in 1984 I missed this Carter speech but have often wondered lately why no one is pushing conservation, instead focusing mainly on increasing supply. If energy abundance was the only problem, this may be a viable solution, but we have the environment to think about also, so an increase in supply would lead to an increase in consumption, exactly what we don&#039;t need. And McCain makes me laugh with his 300 million dollar battery prize. John, the future of portable energy is not a battery.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being born in 1984 I missed this Carter speech but have often wondered lately why no one is pushing conservation, instead focusing mainly on increasing supply. If energy abundance was the only problem, this may be a viable solution, but we have the environment to think about also, so an increase in supply would lead to an increase in consumption, exactly what we don&#39;t need. And McCain makes me laugh with his 300 million dollar battery prize. John, the future of portable energy is not a battery.</p>
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		<title>By: jrbehrman</title>
		<link>http://washingtonindependent.com/841/energy-talk/comment-page-1#comment-3381</link>
		<dc:creator>jrbehrman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 11:48:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will post this Thursday at Texas KAOS:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.texaskaos.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=4984&quot;&gt;The Texas Plan&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It reflects my work with the Texas Democratic Party, the Progressive Populist Caucus, and the Oil Patch Democrats, but strictly my own views.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;For immediate relief, I would follow the &quot;infant industry&quot; doctrine of subsidizing both alternative fuels and vehicles. Further, I would revert to common carriage principles of public utility regulation (without public indemnity for private folly).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And, finally, I would move slowly but boldly towards replacement of coal-fired boilers and obsolete reactors for electrical power generation and process-steam applications such as synthesizing clean or renewable fuels.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;All of these can be popular policies anywhere but Washington, where propping-up declining industries, Soviet-style indirect taxation and monopoly rent-sharing, as well as Edwardian navalism are still the rule, even after the Great, World, and Cold Wars ended.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That cannot go on, but if Democratic populists cannot change anything, right wing extremists or populists will both generate and exploit the catastrophe it will take to do so after their own fashion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will post this Thursday at Texas KAOS:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.texaskaos.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=4984">The Texas Plan</a></p>
<p>It reflects my work with the Texas Democratic Party, the Progressive Populist Caucus, and the Oil Patch Democrats, but strictly my own views.</p>
<p>For immediate relief, I would follow the &#8220;infant industry&#8221; doctrine of subsidizing both alternative fuels and vehicles. Further, I would revert to common carriage principles of public utility regulation (without public indemnity for private folly).</p>
<p>And, finally, I would move slowly but boldly towards replacement of coal-fired boilers and obsolete reactors for electrical power generation and process-steam applications such as synthesizing clean or renewable fuels.</p>
<p>All of these can be popular policies anywhere but Washington, where propping-up declining industries, Soviet-style indirect taxation and monopoly rent-sharing, as well as Edwardian navalism are still the rule, even after the Great, World, and Cold Wars ended.</p>
<p>That cannot go on, but if Democratic populists cannot change anything, right wing extremists or populists will both generate and exploit the catastrophe it will take to do so after their own fashion.</p>
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		<title>By: johnlewismealer</title>
		<link>http://washingtonindependent.com/841/energy-talk/comment-page-1#comment-762</link>
		<dc:creator>johnlewismealer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is only ONE way to solve the problem:



JOHN McCAIN</description>
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