Arizona Senate Passes Controversial Immigration Bill

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Monday, April 19, 2010 at 5:42 pm

The Arizona Senate just passed the controversial Senate bill 1070 (“Support Our Law Enforcement and Safe Neighborhood Act”), one of the toughest immigration bills in the country, by a vote of 17-11. All but one Republican voted for the bill, while all voting Democrats were opposed.

Several senators spoke out against the bill, arguing that Arizona could become the Alabama of the new century, that the bill may be unconstitutional and that it could turn family members of illegal immigrants into criminals. One senator called the bill “un-American,” and another expressed concern over how Arizona might be viewed if the legislation were passed and whether tourism would suffer as a result.

But supporters of the bill pointed out the problems caused by illegal immigration. Republican Senator John Huppenthal, a sponsor of the bill, says he’s seen evidence of neighborhoods that have been “nuclear-bombed by the effects of illegal immigration.” Republican Senator Al Melvin pointed to the murder of an Arizona rancher last month, possibly at the hands of an illegal immigrant, and the federal government’s failure to act on illegal immigration as the reasons for his vote; and another senator cited 40 murders committed by illegal immigrants. Illegal immigration was called an “invasion” several times on the Senate floor.

The bill will now go to Republican Governor Jan Brewer’s desk, where she will have five days to sign or veto the bill. Although Brewer said this morning that she had some concerns over the legislation, she has not commented on whether she would sign or veto the bill, reported the Arizona Republic.

“I am always concerned about all of those things,” Brewer said when asked about several specific provisions of the bill, including one that would require police to ask anyone they suspect of being in the country illegally to produce an “alien registration document” such as a green card…

Still, Brewer declined to give any indication as to whether she would sign or veto the legislation, which has gotten national attention.

“I’ll look at it, go over it and review it completely when it hits my desk,” she said.

Previously, Brewer’s camp has said only that the Governor has “a strong and consistent track record of supporting responsible immigration-enforcement measures.”

About 30 people participated in a candlelight vigil outside Brewer’s home Sunday night, and this morning at 7 a.m., a 24-hour vigil began at the state capitol. Participants are protesting Senate bill 1070 and asking Brewer to veto it. It is widely opposed by civil rights groups and immigrant advocates, and even Mexican Embassy officials have voiced concerns over the possible civil rights violations of Mexican nationals because of racial profiling. It also has some New Mexico lawmakers concerned over a potential increase in illegal immigration through Arizona.

Today, after Sens. Jon Kyl and John McCain, both Republicans of Arizona, announced their plan for border security along the U.S.-Arizona border, McCain endorsed Senate bill 1070, and many are wondering how someone who once supported immigration reform is now supporting one of the toughest immigration bills in the country. Hours later, civil rights groups began denouncing his endorsement. “It’s sad to see a man who once stood up to the extremist elements of his own party and once was a great champion for practical action to fix America’s broken immigration system, succumb to the instinct to scapegoat minorities for America’s problems,” said Gabe Gonzalez, director of the Campaign for Community Values and adviser to the Fair Immigration Reform Movement (FIRM), in a press release. McCain’s Senate challenger, Tea Party favorite J.D. Hayworth, who has called McCain too soft on border security and immigration, also supports the bill.

But the fight over this bill isn’t over yet. Several civil rights groups, including the ACLU of Arizona, have vowed to challenge the law in court if it is passed by the governor. Tomorrow, Rep. Luis Gutierrez (D-Ill.), an advocate for comprehensive immigration reform who wrote a Huffington Post editorial denouncing the bill over the weekend, and other members of Congress and the Congressional Hispanic Caucus will hold a press conference to ask Brewer to veto the legislation.

Correction: This post initially misstated the party breakdown of the vote. It has been updated to reflect the correct vote count.

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Estoban
Comment posted April 19, 2010 @ 10:53 pm

So we wait up to 5 days to get this bill finalized. I hope our Representatives and Senators in Washington tell the amnesty traitors like Gutierrez to mind their own business. They sat on their authority for 24 years allowing the largest invasion and occupation of a country in history by lawbreakers. Now it's time for them to shut it and talk to the hand.


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Comment posted April 20, 2010 @ 2:03 am

Gupner…….. sign dat bill. And remember the Alamo!


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Comment posted April 20, 2010 @ 3:31 am

Fascinating how today's Triple K puts on minority names (Black Texan, Estoban) instead of the more traditional white hoods…


lromo
Comment posted April 20, 2010 @ 6:33 am

This bill is absolutely ridiculous, Okay so enforce border security, but stopping someone while they're walking down the street just because they “appear” illegal?? Wow, now THAT”S racist. Ilegal immigrants come from all over the world, so what will be the criteria for “appearing” illegal?? Seriously, think about it. That bill has “racial profiling” written all over it, and people are too blind to see it. Arizona is so racist, because there will be nothing to base their decision to stop someone, it'll all be based on the color of their skin. That's incredibly sad and definately, without a doubt “Un-American”


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Comment posted April 20, 2010 @ 12:21 pm

You should take that up with Secretary Napolitano. The criteria Homeland Security set up for the 287g program was based partly on 'appearance'.


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magyart
Comment posted April 21, 2010 @ 6:17 am

All those who are so staunchly opposed to the Arizona Bill making it against the law for an alien not to have an Alien Registration card in their possession obviously have no clue that it simply mirrors a Federal law which is already on the books.

Sec. 264. [8 U.S.C. 1304]

(e) Every alien, eighteen years of age and over, shall at all times carry with him and have in his personal possession any certificate of alien registration or alien registration receipt card issued to him pursuant to subsection (d). Any alien who fails to comply with the provisions of this subsection shall be guilty of a misdemeanor and shall upon conviction for each offense be fined not to exceed $100 or be imprisoned not more than thirty days, or both.

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Luisa Ramalho
Comment posted April 21, 2010 @ 1:12 pm

Where will this country go with out imigrants. who will work, do all the work the americans dont want to do. yes cause the truth is they dont want to go and clean your garden, of pave your walkway, or get on a ladder to paint, The american sends the imigrant to do it. you think theirs fourclosurs now? who is going to rent in our communities, you cant rent, you cant pay the bills, you loose the house. and another thing. this country started on imigrants, what is the governors background? where did his family come from. millions of imigrants came to this country on boats and made a life for them and their families illigally, so personally i beleive he is wrong. take the real criminals that have comitted a crime, but leave the hard working people, who only benifit your country. This country is already financialy strapped and take the immigrants out of here and see what it will turn to. Many of those people have children here, so what are you going to do, Send the parents and leave the children. ohhhh wait, or will you just decide that those children belong to the state now. get real, get your head out of your @$$ the only criminal i see here is you, discriminating agains hard honest working people. go to your jails, as see how many americans are there. Americans, american born, unless your American Indian, you are a Immigrant.


luisa
Comment posted April 21, 2010 @ 1:18 pm

Are you American Indian? where did you or your heratage come from?
if not, you dont have rights either.


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danonawing
Comment posted April 22, 2010 @ 5:51 am

Time to close up the Taco Bell folks….This is years late …..but at least somoeone is on the ball …now lets see if the Gov has any guts. If the Russians closed their western border with Europe for fifty years … surely we can keep some Mexicans out . Either that or just make Mexico another state…quit with all the game playing.


ramiro22
Comment posted April 22, 2010 @ 3:00 pm

Retarded bill…


ramiro22
Comment posted April 22, 2010 @ 3:03 pm

why the hell isnt obama stepping in with the damm immigration reform???


ramiro22
Comment posted April 22, 2010 @ 3:04 pm

agree


joebob15
Comment posted April 22, 2010 @ 7:00 pm

how about immigrating in a way that is legal. that's right, you can be a legal immigrant. there is nothing racist or wrong with this. this is something that should have been taken care of from the very beginning.

i know we were all immigrants at one time. however, when we were immigrants, we did it under legal means. also, 50 years ago and before, none of these immigrants were receiving government handouts, abusing healthcare, bringing drugs over the border, or overcrowding our jails and overstretching our law enforcement.

your reasoning is too one-dimensional. do some more research before you launch into useless diatribe.


joebob15
Comment posted April 22, 2010 @ 7:06 pm

i think you are retarded.

arizona has a problem and they are dealing with it. my hat goes off to them. instead of waiting for the federal government to “fix” things, they are doing it themselves.

also, we call them illegal immigrants because they are here illegally. believe it or not, there are legal ways to immigrate to the united states. allowing illegals the rights of everybody else is a slap in the face and insult to all those who have legally come to this country.

grow up and take a civics class.


karemg2009
Comment posted April 23, 2010 @ 12:05 am

mexicans are not the only imigrants in this country but it due seems like they are the only ones you are targeting i mean are u going to ask a white skin person for there papers im guessing not and sure enough there are those kind of ailiens too


joe
Comment posted April 23, 2010 @ 12:24 am

I agree.HIP HIP HURRAY, it's about time a law for the citizens of this country was passed.


Fred Harris
Comment posted April 23, 2010 @ 4:09 am

Arizona is a retarded ass state,They didn't want MLK Day as a national holiday as well.


joebob15
Comment posted April 23, 2010 @ 5:35 am

yeah, but how many non-mexicans are illegally crossing the border into arizona? i'm sure if we had asians, blacks, and whites crossing the border into mexico, they would be questioned too. it's only a racial issue if you make it one. also, i understand it might be an inconvenience to those mexicans that are in arizona legally, but if they are naturalized citizens, then they have nothing to worry about. if they had the resources to do so, i would be fine with them checking every single resident of that state. am i making any sense, karemg2009?


jobob15
Comment posted April 23, 2010 @ 5:41 am

ramiro22,
please explain to me why you agree with luisa ramalho. luisa ramalho, i would love to hear your explanation, as well.

my ancestors were immigrants at one time. a lot of peoples' ancestors were. however, they immigrated in a way that was legal. also, they did not receive any government assistance. they went through immigration the way everybody should be doing it today. amnesty and toleration of this illegal activity is a slap in the face to all those americans who have legally come into this country.


jobot15
Comment posted April 23, 2010 @ 5:50 am

When these people come over here and use our healthcare and flood into our schools, putting a burden on an already strained and, as you put it, “financially strapped” system, it is a problem. they do not pay taxes. i understand they are perhaps doing work that most people don't want to do, but there is a give and a take.

no, i am not advocating breaking up families and stealing their children. perhaps reform should include abolishing the automatic naturalizing of children born on US soil. if they are born of illegal immigrants here, they should also be illegal immigrants. therefore, the family can stay together. just a thought.

in closing, this is not discrimination. it's a reaction to a problem that the people of arizona are facing. luisa ramalho, unless you are living in arizona and dealing with this directly, you have no place to talk.

i would appreciate any mature and informed replies. it's good to discuss these things; helps us to learn and grow.


FrankyeJae
Comment posted April 23, 2010 @ 9:12 pm

I'm White and i Live in Arizona and i belive this is the worst possible scenerio for a so called solution to immigration. Immirgration will never be solved because its impossible, unless you want to lock down our country from the world. This is going to cause nothing but uneeded problems for our state. Do you want a cop stoping you for no reason and asking for your information?? How about if you forgot your Id… how about you are with your mexican friend on the way to the movies and you get stoped for no reason… how about if this was you…. The fact is this isnt targeting imigrents this is targeting mexicans.. This is retarded, and anyone who is down with this is a RETARD too. So cry get on your john deer tracter and hump your sister you white trash fdgdkfg.


Estoban
Comment posted April 23, 2010 @ 9:29 pm

The Governor signed it. It is now law. The racist organizations like La Raza will sue. Illegal aliens will be caught and deported. The members of my family that are part Mexican by ancester applaud this bill, for it goes after illegal aliens, no matter what country they came from.


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Comment posted April 24, 2010 @ 5:52 am

Interesting… My people are from Arizona/Four-corners area (Navajo)… It's weird that the illegal immigrants, the whiteman, are so upset…


someone who cares
Comment posted April 24, 2010 @ 6:16 am

you r really being dumb there r people that dont have there papers that r paying taxes if u dont know dont say anything


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frets
Comment posted April 24, 2010 @ 4:58 pm

Gov. Jan Brewer has signed SB 1070 into law. Round 1. The racist Hispanic/Latino lobby, criminal supporters. and the national liberal media will spin it as hate, racial profiling and hide the truth from those who still watch their diminishing broadcasts.

Americans are racist to oppose illegal immigration. Right?

Alarms sounded. Spanish-speaking media helped get the word out. The racist nativist’s, Minutemen, and assorted White supremest groups were to spread hate against undocumented migrants, those who come here for a better life, those who do the work Americans won’t do, and brown people.

No, Americans of all races have repeatedly expressed their disapproval for out-of-control illegal aliens running rampant through our cities, and the upcoming Amnesty pushed by the racist Illinois Congressman and Mexican loyalist, Luis Gutierrez. After all, Democrats have to pay the Hispanic community back for allowing illegal immigrants to vote in our elections (an offense that would get you a prison sentence in Mexico).

Whites have become the racial scapegoat in this battle. No other race could possibly reject the hordes of illegals flooding our country.
Why is it that the children of illegal aliens are granted the same rights and privileges as the descendants of slaves for whom the Fourteenth Amendment was written into the Constitution? Why should Black American children have to compete with millions of illegal alien children for seats in schools, quality attention from educators, diminishing social services and ever-distant opportunities? Why is the proud refrain, “We Shall Overcome” now muffled by the clamor of “We Will Overwhelm and Take Your Country?” If you seek answers, just look to the “racist” groups like The National Council of La Raza (The Race), MeCHA, LULAC, and a terrorist group called the “Mexica Movement.” Their official platform says:

“We totally reject all illegal European Colonial Squatter Occupation Borders on our continent. We also reject Colonialism’s right to keep stealing the wealth of our lands. And we reject their artificial divisions of our people!” This is a group that thinks America is their property, and anyone who doesn’t fit their description should leave the country. What it also means is this is a hateful, racist and terrorist group, and it should be dealt with. Of course, we will be called racist. What Americans are fed up with are the millions and millions of people who come here and do not want to assimilate or learn the language. People who send their earnings? “home” to another country. People who are turning 2 bedroom apartments and single family homes into illegal camps housing up to 100. People who are stealing I.Ds and Social Security numbers from American taxpayers. People who are turning entire neighborhoods and city sections into Tijuana’s, where half the store signs advertise “llanteras usadas.” People who are killing American citizens at the rate of 27 per day through murder, drunk driving, etc. People who expect and demand their kids to be taught in Spanish, and don’t care what we Americans think. People who since 2000 have desecrated our National border parks with 45 million tons of trash.

People who drive illegally without auto insurance, or set enough aside to cover their? liabilities. People who use our expensive hospital emergency rooms as their cold and sniffle clinics. The real complaint here is that “lazy Americans” who still try to “follow the laws” find themselves increasingly squeezed and taxed, fingerprinted and regulated and licensed and strip-searched, while the illegals and their supporters thumb their noses, disregard our wishes, and give the finger to our laws.

Why would they want “reform” of laws they’ve shown no intention of obeying? What they really want is “belly up immigration surrender” – free instant citizenship rights to all government welfare benefits for any and all of their people who can get here. Why is it dangerous that we can’t discuss these? things frankly in the open, without crippling euphemisms that disguise what this is really about?

Every 4 month, a population the size of Tallahassee, FL pours across our southern border. They are not undocumented. They are illegal aliens. Period. Americans have been conned and numbed to accept this infestation as normal.

In 1997, pres Zedillio proclaimed “I have proudly affirmed that the Mexican nation extends beyond the territory enclosed by it’s borders.” MALDEF founder Mario Obledo stated, “California is going to be a Hispanic state. Anyone who doesn’t like it should leave. Every constitutional office in California is going to be held by Hispanics in the next 20 years.” People who don’t like such demographic changes “should go back to Europe.” Mexico’s president Fox was unrelenting in his brazen demands on the US, starting with open borders even before he was elected. He called for the border to be a “joining line.” His visits to the US was filled with endless requirements for Mexican citizens illegally in this country – free healthcare, taxpayer subsidized in-state tuition for illegal’s at state colleges and universities, guest worker programs, and amnesty for all. It hasn't stopped.
Encouraged by their leaders in both countries, the 30 to 40 million (not 12 million) Mexicans illegal aliens in America are emboldened to insist that the US surrender to their demands, particularly amnesty, which will speed the acquisition of political power. And when the Southwest United States becomes majority Mexican (if uncontested) around 2028, these people will call for political unification with their cultural homeland. Their leaders are planning for such a scenario. It’s hard to fathom how America’s elected Congressional leaders, those who swore to uphold the Constitution and to protect the nation, are prepared to give it away for some perceived short-term political gain, if that.

The front men for globalist corporations, and world government who occupy the White House allows Mexico to dictate America’s immigration policy, while few in the Democrat party object. Does anyone think Mexico cares about what happens to America? All one has to do is look back to Sept 11, 2001, when Mexico was the only country who did not offer condolences. They see the US as a dumping ground, and lands that they claim is theirs. Why do American public officials value so little what thousands have fought and died to protect? A foreign power has stated its plans to conquer this nation by demographic warfare, but in Washington, apparently no one has any balls.

How did these people get so deeply rooted in our politics? Why does the most powerful nation in the world’s leaders cower before the third world country to the south? They’ve infiltrated our political machine, flooded our cities, and will endlessly remain loyal to Mexico.

We’ve all seen the news coverage with millions of illegal aliens waving Mexican flags in our streets demanding to be awarded citizenship. It will be played again in the coming days.

We’ve heard the threats from the their seditious leaders elected to our offices. We’ve seen the American flag burned, or hung upside down beneath the Mexican flag. They insist we’d be nothing without them.

They call it “Reconquista.” The sleeping giant is starting to rise from its decade’s old slumber.

They are artificially encouraged by tens of millions of their illegal illegitimate brethren that victory is within reach. The coming conflict with these parasites in parasite’s clothing will end with the American citizens authorizing a mass banishment that will make President Eisenhower’s “Operation Wetback” puny in comparison.

The illegal alien network support system and Mexican government has countered as we expect. They are worthless arrogant parasites.

There is a national movement rising. Many states will be forced to write these new restrictions. To be an illegal alien in the United States will become difficult. People will self-deport. Those who don’t will be arrested, deprted, and, or imprisoned.

The national bleeding will then stop. Americans are sick of Mexico, and the Hispanic/Latino agenda.

I will no longer have to press 1 for my own language…


frets
Comment posted April 24, 2010 @ 5:07 pm

I don't know about immigrants, but we will be fine without “illegal aliens.”
Who will do the work? Are you a moron, or just a racist? They don't do anything for me. I do my own work. This post is pure racist, pro-illegal alien pap. We are not speaking of immigrants. We are talking about illegal immigration. Get it? They are criminals. They are parasites. Yes, get them out. What it will turn into is a country without millions of freeloaders.
The children will go back with them. Are you a fool? Right, you've found another loophole to take advantage of (our 14th Amendment). They are not citizens. 1 out of 3 incarserated are illegal aliens. Do you get it? Americans are sick of the tsunami of illegals pouring into our country. Enough is enough. I suggest you go back with them. What a crock of shit post.
What else would we expect you to say. Racist.


frets
Comment posted April 24, 2010 @ 5:08 pm

Of course you would. It's all about La Raza.


frets
Comment posted April 24, 2010 @ 5:09 pm

Spoken like a true criminal supporter. Wrong, it's you who does not have rights. This is our country.


frets
Comment posted April 24, 2010 @ 5:13 pm

Cut the crap. This is America saying we've had enough of your bullshit. I can spot an illegal from a mile away. Throw a rock and see who it hits first. This country is flooded with illegal aliens. What's racist is people like you who support this invasion because they look like you. That's the true racism. Racial profiling? No, it's called enforcing the law. Get them all out of our country. We have had it. Wait until the American citizens start enforcing the laws. Then it will get ugly.


frets
Comment posted April 24, 2010 @ 5:15 pm

This has nothing to do with immigration. It is about breaking the law. Illegal immigration. They are not the same, and you would have to be a fool or Hispanic to not know the difference.


frets
Comment posted April 24, 2010 @ 5:20 pm

Spoken like a true idiot. Mexicans are not the only immigrants? No, but they are the champions of illegal immigration to the tune of 40 million. Yes, you rarely see illegals from other nations. They are not the ones flying Mexican flags protesting in the streets, or claiming this is their country.
It's all about reconquista. We are not fools. It's over. We've had enough.
By the way, if you find those “other immigrants,” let us know.
Here, it's raining Mexican illegal aliens.


frets
Comment posted April 24, 2010 @ 5:21 pm

Perhaps, but it's an illegal alien infested state…


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Angel Davila
Comment posted May 11, 2010 @ 3:22 pm

Wow, nice rationalization of racism buddy. A little research might help you out. America has been traditionally xenophobic. The Italians were hated, called wops for With Out Papers by the way, the Irish were hated when they arrived, the Asians were hated, the native americans were hated even though they were already here, etc…And every group, once assimilated, tries to close the door behind them and bitches about the next group coming in. It is nothing more than hatred, plain and simple. If you stopped and used your brain for a second, you would wonder what would motivate a person to leave their country and become criminals somewhere else…then you might wonder why Arizona is enjoying the lowest crime rate they have had in decades and wonder how that can be if illegals are flooding in to commit crimes. Then you might wonder why you have missed the issue regarding this bill entirely.

You are a racist and a victim of propaganda. The problem with this bill isn't even the problems it may cause for illegal immigrants but the problems it will cause for hispanic LAW ABIDING CITIZENS. You know, the people that are here legally, were born here legally, the people whose families have been here since before it was Arizona, before it was even the US. These people will be harassed because of how they look and because of their customs. That is the problem. You are a racist because you have stated you hate mexico and mexicans. You are ignorant because you actually think that the US belongs to you. You are the problem because you alienate the people you should be seeking to co-exist with. Yes, I am a first generation Mexican American, born in the US legally, proud to be here, proud of my heritage. I have every right to be here, every right not to be harassed and I am telling you and your racist friends to back off.


Angel Davila
Comment posted May 11, 2010 @ 3:27 pm

You, sir, are the idiot and a racist. You know, whites seem to be overwhelmingly responsible for white collar crimes…in fact, the whole economic collapse seemed to have been orchestrated by whites. We should round them up and check their businesses to make sure they aren't about to cause another problem. You know they have done much more damage than the immigrants from Mexico. Wow, that sounds like nonsense to you? Imagine that.


Angel Davila
Comment posted May 11, 2010 @ 3:29 pm

joebob, you have just pointed out why this bill is an example of racial profiling. “it might be an inconvenience to those mexicans that are in arizona legally” you are supporting a bill that singles out a racial group. It is a racial issue because it only affects one race. I was born here legally, I have every right to live here free from harassment. It is not a crime to be born with a Mexican heritage. Look up the definition of racial profiling, numbnuts.


Angel Davila
Comment posted May 11, 2010 @ 3:32 pm

Again, your reign of idiocy and racism continues. Most people who try to get into the country legally from mexico fail because the system is designed that way. I know, we have people who have been waiting for over seven years, having tried to do everything correctly to try to get here. We have that option. People who are starving don't. Oh, that's right…it isn't about those people that come here illegally, it's about the people who are here legally. Strange how your xenophobia and racism confuses the issue.


Angel Davila
Comment posted May 11, 2010 @ 3:34 pm

Taco Bell isn't mexican food. It's American as much as hamburgers. Just thought you should know. Also, I'm sure you meant keep the illegal immigrants out, not just Mexicans. That's okay, I'm sure you are not an ignorant racist jerk.


danonawing
Comment posted May 11, 2010 @ 7:57 pm

Anything else you would like teach me….all great knowing one ? Shut your pie-hole and go to mexico help your brothers and sisters…


frets
Comment posted May 13, 2010 @ 3:28 am

It's your imbecilic statements that reveals your loyalty to La Raza.

Phoenix, AZ has a crime rate equal to, or exceeding that of New York. It will be stopped. All states will eventually enforce our federal laws. The influx of this menace appears to have escaped your memory, but then again, you were probably somewhere “in the shadows.” Perhaps this will help you:

PROBLEMS WITH ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION:

Anchor Babies: Birthright Citizenship Exploited
Anti-American Attitudes
Anti-Semitic Attitudes
Attacks on Border Patrol and Law Enforcement
Attacks on Free Speech
Animal Abuse Increases
Birthing Tours (let's go visit and create an American while we're at it)
Census? Numbers: Negative Impact on Cogressional Representation
Civil Rights: Devalued by comparison to illegal actions
Child Endangerment
Child Molestation
Closed and Overcrowded Hospitals and Emergency Rooms
Cost of Translators
Consulates issuing Matricular Cards (ID Mexico won't even accept)
Day Laborers loitering and creating public hazards
Depreciated Wages for Americans and Legal Immigrants
Deterioration of Common American Culture
Desecration of the American Flag: Foreign Flags used aggressively
Disrespect for American Holidays
Disrespect for American? Laws
Document Fraud
Drunk Driving injuries and Deaths
Ethnic Cleansing and Race Riots
Farm Animals withing City Limits
Food Poisoning
Foreign Influence on US Politics
Fraud of 14th Amendment (birthright citizenship) while in jurisdiction of foreign country
Gangs, Graffiti, Drugs, Cartels, Smugglers, Kidnappers, and Violence
Gang Rape and Unreported Crimes
High Birth? Rates and overpopulation
Hispanic/Latino Agenda taking precedence over all
Hit and Runs
Human Sex Slavery
Identity Theft
Increased Crime
Increased Taxes for Americans
Increased pressures on infrastructure (roads, traffic, water, sewer)
Infectious Diseases
Lost American Jobs
Lost American Sovereignty
Lost Self Governance of American Citizens vs Globalism and Elitism
Loyalty to Mexico/Hispanics/Latinos only
Male Chauvinism: Gender inequality
Not Speaking English (nor caring to), loss of common language, Press? 1 for English
Overcrowded Neighborhoods
Overcrowded Schools and Negative Impact on American Education
Overcrowded single family homes
Overcrowded Jails and Prisons
Public Sanitation Loss: Trash and Human Waste in Towns
Push For Amnesty
Racist Groups and Race Based Politics
Remittances: Billions of dollars sent out of the US Economy
Rule of Law: Fundamental principles of America sacrificed
Seperatist Movements: Demands for autonomy
Smear Campaigns and Lies: Dirty Politics
Stolen American Taxpayer Resourses: Tuition,? Welfare, Licenses
Taking Limited Seats in Colleges at Taxpayer Expense
Taxpayer Funds going to Special Interest Groups (example) “La Raza”
Terrorism Threats and loss of National Security
Trash and Negative Impact on Environment at Border
Unfair to Legal Immigrants
Unfair Business Competition for law abiding Companies
Unlicensed and Uninsured Motorists
Untaxed Wages
Voter Fraud

And you only come here to feed your families…


frets
Comment posted May 13, 2010 @ 3:47 am

And, I'd like to comment you on the psychobabble. A little research may help you, as opposed to talking from your ass. All of the groups mentioned came here through Ellis Island. They were screened, quarantined. They also came here to be Americans. Cut the Telemeddler soundbites.
Don't give me the born here legally crap. It's fraud, just like everything else from this illegaitimate demographic. You are illegitimate. Cubic Zercornia.
A fraud. A pretend American. An anchor baby with loyal to Mexico and it's people. You are the racist fake.

Today, 97 illegal alien sex offenders, and 17 serial sexual? offenders entered illegally into this country.
In the last 88 months, 960,000 US citizens were victims of sexual abuse from illegal aliens. Nearly 63% of the offenders had been deported on another offense prior to the sex crimes.
After all, they just come here to do the jobs Americans won't do. Right?
Today, 12 to 14 American citizens will be murdered by illegal alien model citizens from Mexico.
Another 20 to 26 will be killed by illegal aliens driving drunk, or under the influence of drugs. The month is half over. Close to 500 American citizens have been killed by illegal aliens. That's what I call the perfect? path to citizenship. Mexico, the gift that keeps on giving.

Let's review the basics Mr. researcher.
Immigrants have enhanced America. Illegal immigrants have crippled America. Legal immigrants come to America? with respect for law. Illegal aliens come here with an implicit “blind eye” approval. Thus, illegal immigration problems are due essentially to inaction of Congress, law enforcemnet, and untimately, us, the American citizens (but not for long).
Legal immigrants deserve respect. Illegals are law breakers who do not deserve jobs, amnesty, educational subsidies, driver's licenses, and countless other benefits at the expense of the US taxpayers they disdain. Illegal aliens should go home voluntarily, and then humanely deported as the law requires. Americans who want illegal immigration stopped are called racist? and anti-immigrant. Americans are now rising above the name calling and demanding a fix to this illegal tsunami.
Is America being true to it's values by allowing this mass exodus led by Mexico? How about our working poor? Do they matter?
Mexico and the illegal alien La Raza Nation don't care because it's people must raise their quality of life instead. They do not matter.

And why is our national security sacrificed with our virtually wide open borders?

It's because the most dispicable, worthless, obnoxious, immoral, indignant, corrupt, greedy, wreckless, parasitic and underlying ideologically maligned? country and it's people insist we do so for their benefit alone…


frets
Comment posted May 13, 2010 @ 3:50 am

You caught me off guard with the Hispanic law abiding citizens bullshit.

And we Americans should co-exist with criminals who have briken our laws?

You are a complete, unabashed moron…


frets
Comment posted May 13, 2010 @ 3:58 am

Marcos de Niza, a Spanish Franciscan, explored parts of Arizona in 1539 and met it's original inhabitants (Indians). When Mexico achieved its independence from Spain in 1821, what is now Pima County became part of the Mexican territory. In the Mexican-American war (1847), the US occupied Mexico City and forced the newly founded Mexican Republic to give up its northern territories, including parts that would later become Arizona. The treaty of Guadalupe Hildago (1848) specified that the sum of $15 million US dollars be paid to Mexico. On Feb 12, 1862, it became Arizona. Until the latter half of the 19th century, all of central and northern Arizona was unpopulated. When the US gained the territory in 1848, fewer than 190 people of Hispanic origin lived there.

The new Republic of Mexico owned part of the land for only 26 years.

Before Mexico won its independence from Spain, the Spanish government had made a few small grants of land in southern Arizona. In 1789, Toribio de Otero petitioned for a lot from the Tubac presidio in return for military service. In 1807, the O'odham of the Tumacacori mission received title to a long strip along the Santa Cruz River south of Tubac encompassing the former mission lands of Tumacacori, Calabasas, and Guevavi. In 1812, Agustín Ortiz purchased the site of Arivaca, an important mining and ranching center since the mid eighteenth century, at public auction. Charles Poston purchased that hacienda from Ignacio Ortiz for $10,000.

In 1853, President James Buchanan dispatched James Gadsden, a railroad speculator from North Carolina, to present Mexican president Santa Anna with five different plans to purchase more of northern Mexico. The most ambitious offered $50 million for Baja California and much of Sonora, Chihuahua, and Coahuila. The least extensive sought Arizona south of the Gila River and the Mesilla Valley of New Mexico. That was the one Santa Anna accepted. In return for $10,000,000, the United States received nearly 30,000 square miles (80,000 km2) of deserts and mountains. With it came Tucson, Tubac, and Tumacacori…


joebob15
Comment posted May 15, 2010 @ 3:35 pm

are you against putting up a fence, too?


joebob15
Comment posted May 15, 2010 @ 3:52 pm

you mean you are an anchor baby? and by the way, the whole race card thing is getting old. of course you have rights as an american citizen. i agree with that.

the reason myself and i'm sure a lot of others are frustrated by this is not because we think the US is ours alone. i think it has more to do with immigrants (from anywhere) coming to the US with a sense of entitlement. by simply crossing the border they should receive free healthcare, government handouts, an education (in spanish, of course), among other things.

i would have no problem with anybody coming over here legally or illegally if they were willing to pay taxes, learn english, and contribute to society. and i'm not being a racist or a bigot saying that everybody should have to speak english. i have german ancestry. when my family came over years and years ago, they worked hard, learned english, and contributed more than they consumed. i know that might be a strange concept these days.

despite your eagerness to label everybody that does not agree with you as a racist, we simply want what's best for our country. the US government is responsible for taking care of the citizens of the US first and foremost. i hope you can let all this anger and hatred go and try to see things from another perspective. also, i do appreciate the discussion.


joebob15
Comment posted May 15, 2010 @ 4:13 pm

luisa ramalho,

please spare me the rhetoric on how the only true citizens here are american indians. the issue isn't about that.

the issue is that we have an established government here. we have laws, rules, and guidelines. also, i agree, most of us are descendants of immigrants. however, the big difference between my family coming over here and the illegals that are coming over here is quite significant.

to begin with, my family didn't come over to the US with a sense of entitlement. they did not come over to demand things of the US. they did not receive any government handouts. they did not get “free” healthcare. they legally immigrated, they worked, payed taxes, learned english, and raised their children to do the same.

in stark contrast, the illegals that are coming over from mexico, in many cases, are not paying taxes, not learning english, negatively impacting the public schools (with both number of students and having to provide bilingual education), decreasing the efficiency and funds of government institutions (ever been to the DMV?), and using healthchare they are not paying for (both directly by paying their bills, or indirectly by not paying taxes).

do you see the difference?

am i being a racist for thinking this? am i a horrible person for wanting a better country? no, i do not think people should have to give up their ethnic heritage or identity. i think it's great that we have diversity. but to live here in the US, people should also do their part to help. if you could fix these things, i would be all for opening up our doors.


joebob15
Comment posted May 15, 2010 @ 4:20 pm

by papers, they are not saying you have to walk around with a file of documents saying you are here legally. a simple drivers license is all it takes. seeing as illegals in arizona cannot get licenses, it makes it more reasonable to assume someone is legal if they have a license.

and, sombodywhocares, in addition to your terrible grammar, of course there are people who are paying their taxes that are not carrying around their papers. however, illegals that are not reporting their earnings to the IRS every year are NOT paying their taxes*. please go to school. preferably one that teaches english, civics, and math.

*paying sales tax does not count as paying your taxes, either.


joebob15
Comment posted May 15, 2010 @ 4:29 pm

what race is illegal? and by the way, iromo, is it going to be a civil rights crime every time a police officer pulls somebody over and asks for their drivers license and proof of insurance because they happen to look mexican?

simply asking to see somebody's ID is not racist. It's something that happens to a lot of people every day. I have to show my ID to buy alcohol. i have to show a ticket when i attend a basketball game to prove i paid for it. My youngest sister has to show her ID to get into an R-rated movie. On the weekends the police sometimes set up license checks on the road to catch drunk drivers. Are these violations of civil rights? is this racist? should they let somebody simply pass through the license check because they don't want to offend them?

also, this bill is not ridiculous. there is nothing illegal about it. it is in total accord with the federal laws of immigration that have not been enforced.


lromo
Comment posted May 16, 2010 @ 7:18 pm

Look, I'm all for it. and no i dont agree that any of the things mentioned are racist. What I meant by racist was that it targets Latinos, whether people want to admit it or not. What i'm sure of, is that people in west phoenix will be asked for their documents, and people in Scottsdale wont be asked for them. THAT”S what I mean by racist. And this bill does nothing to secure our borders, which is the huge problem, that's the reason undocumented immigrants are here, it's easy for them. So in my opinon if AZ wanted to fix or help fix the problem, they should have started by securing the borders. If this was such an amazing, brilliant bill, why would so many police chiefs and county sheriffs be so against it? Well maybe because they just set more responibilities on understaffed, underpaid, and overworked police officers, and because now every illegal immigrant or legal latino won't want to call the police to report a crime, but then again that's why they
started to change the law. See, that's what's rediculous to me, that Pearce just wrote this bill out of anger and frustration and wasnt smart about it. That's frustrating, instead they should urge Washington to do something, and so should the American people. But no, instead everyone is just saying “deport them all” why not “secure the borders” first???? And this should not be ALL politics, there are human beings behind this, who are being hurt and cant return to their countries, but inhumane people dont see that, there wouldnt even be a path to residency if every undocumented person did leave, and that's sad, because they DO contribute to this country in many many ways, no matter how much people try to deny it. It's the drug cartels and human smugglers who should have it difficult and scary, not the workers, and brilliant students who come here to be part of this nation, and love it, and want to intergrate themselves to make this country even better.


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Ignorant? Uneducated? Inhumane? Idiot?

Wrongomondo. I'm an officer in the US military, who will not pander to parasites. You are an hemipteran in the true sense.

You want ignorant, uneducated, inhumane, and an idiot. Just refer to your president: The mountebank sycophant Calderon slithers to this country, steps his slimy feet on our soil, arrogantly disparages American sovereignty, and the decision of the state of Arizona to enforce the law of the land. He failed to mention Mexico's immigration laws are more severe.

When asked about Mexico's policy for dealing with illegals sneaking in from Central America looking for work, Mr. Calderon quipped, “If somebody (does) that without permission, we send (them) back.”

He omitted the incomprehensible inhumane abuse of migrants who are preyed on while his government turns a blind eye, yet plays an active role in kidnappings, rapes and murders. Peruse the documents that reveal alarming levels of racial profiling, discrimination and mistreatment faced by tens of thousands of Central Americans that attempt to reach the US every year by crossing Mexico.

The migrants are facing a major human rights crisis, leaving them with virtually no justice.

Illegals in Mexico are lucky if deportation is all that happens to them.

Persistent failure by Mexico to tackle the reprehensible acts carried out against migrants has made their journey one of the most dangerous in the world.

Kidnappings of migrants, mainly for ransom, reached new heights in 2009, with the National Human Rights Commission (CNDH) reporting that 10,000 were abducted in less than six months, and almost half of interviewed victims said that public officials were involved.

These abuses committed by Mexican officials include extortion, excessive use of force and violence against women. Arizona is paradise compared to Mexico.

Beheadings are not occuring in Arizona, which Mr. Calderon cannot claim for his own country.

Six out of 10 migrant women and girls experience sexual violence, prompting smugglers to demand that women receive contraceptive injections ahead of the journey, to avoid them getting pregnant as a result of rape (just as you'll find the rape trees along the border trails leading into the US).

Earlier this year, armed police stopped a freight train carrying over 200 migrants in Chiapas State, southern Mexico. Federal Police forced the migrants to leave the train and lie face down on the ground, before stealing their belongings and threatening to kill them unless they continued their journey by foot along the railway.

After walking for hours, the group was assaulted by armed men who raped the women and killed some of the migrants. Suspects were later detained after a local activist helped the migrants file a complaint, but no action was taken against the Federal Police, despite migrants identifying officers involved.

Calderon should focus on his country's treatment of illegal aliens, and Mexico has the responsibility to prevent, punish and remedy these atrocious acts.

However, as the champion con artist, they'd rather feign concern that out of control hordes of illegal Mexican truants will be racially profiled, discriminated against, and abused in Arizona.


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and what? that what they do or not do is none of ur business. let these people live however they want.


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