Census Returns Way Down in Republican Parts of Texas
Tuesday, March 30, 2010 at 2:31 pm
File this under “problems that we really should have seen coming”: conservatives, egged on by the likes of Reps. Ron Paul (R-Texas) and Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.), declining to return census forms and possibly shrinking the political power of states like Texas. The Lone Star State’s return rate for census forms, so far, is 27 percent. The national average is 34 percent. And the data are worse for Republican areas:
In Texas, some of the counties with the lowest census return rates are among the state’s most Republican, including Briscoe County in the Panhandle, 8 percent; King County, near Lubbock, 5 percent; Culberson County, near El Paso, 11 percent; and Newton County, in deep East Texas, 18 percent. Most other counties near the bottom of the list are heavily Hispanic counties along the Texas-Mexico border.
The McCain-Palin ticket carried 74.3 percent of the vote in Briscoe, 92.6 percent in King and 65.5 percent in Newton — although Obama-Biden won tiny Culberson County.
UPDATE: Some friendly folks on Twitter have called this a false meme, so I checked the new data at the Census site. Here are the return rates, so far, for the five most Republican districts in Texas.
King County (92.% for McCain) – 14% return rate, down from 48% in 2000.
Roberts County (92.1% for McCain) – 22% return rate, down from 68% in 2000.
Ochiltree County (91.7% for McCain) – 39% return rate, down from 71% in 2000.
Glasscock County (90.1% for McCain) – 30% return rate, down from 49% in 2000.
Oldham County (88.4% for McCain) – 26% return rate, down from 72% in 2000.
Obviously, with so much time left to complete the Census, lots of populous and Democratic areas are way off of their 2000 rates so far — Harris County, for example, is only at 35%, when in 2000 it had a 68% return rate. But these numbers in conservative areas are worth watching.
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Comment posted March 30, 2010 @ 6:36 pm
I guess all those conservatives who swallowed the “socialist control” nonsense and who collect “socialist” benefits as well as programs whose accounting is based on the census results have only themselves, and their “leaders” to blame when their districts find themselves in financial straights.
Good luck in 2010 and 2012.
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Comment posted March 30, 2010 @ 7:07 pm
“Any intervention in a complex system may or may not have the intended result, but will inevitably create unanticipated and often undesirable outcomes.”
And, often hilarious, as well.
Comment posted March 30, 2010 @ 7:26 pm
How can returns be down? I can't mail the silly thing until 2 April, since I'm supposed to report who is here on the 1st!
Comment posted March 30, 2010 @ 7:40 pm
This is certainly something that should be encouraged- Hopefully the the “Conservative Movement” will become so small that it can be drowned in the bathtub.
Comment posted March 30, 2010 @ 8:12 pm
If Texas conservatives do a bangup job of refusing to respond to the census, they might find themselves with fewer seats in the House of Representatives, as well as fewer federal dollars. Maybe Representative “Baby Killer!!!” will be redistricted out of Congress.
Comment posted March 30, 2010 @ 8:36 pm
Michelle Bachmann's brilliant idea will rupture any chances of Republican “takeover” for a long time to come. Can't wait for the response to her call for her followers to “bang on trashcan lids” in protest of HCR, census, financial reform, dog and cat spaying and putting nightcrawlers on the Endangered Species list.
The fun never stops.
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Comment posted March 31, 2010 @ 12:01 am
What a bunch of MAROONS! It'll be good to see the likes of those idiots bachmann and palin disappear into the hell holes they crawled out of. Poor Alaska and Minnesota–the citizens of those states must be so embarrassed.
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Comment posted March 31, 2010 @ 1:40 am
I'm not sure I see the downside here. They aren't all that attached to reality these days, the reps being elected from those districts tend to be some of our most extreme and most partisan, and if they don't return the census the only people being hurt is them because their own districts will be underrepresented and the power of their own voices reduced.
Where's the downside? If they don't want to be counted, by all means, don't count them. It might be the best solution to this mess yet and it's them doing it to themselves.
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Comment posted March 31, 2010 @ 2:47 am
Let's not discount the TPers. Since they are essentially taking the GOP stance, and are paranoid xenophobes (many of them, not all, but still afraid of the Government), they stand losing in this, as well.
I wonder who they'll cry to when other states begin to come out of their deficits, and those states who followed Bachmann's lead will still be buried.The patchwork of “red” states will be interesting. I'm wondering if there will even BE any.
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Comment posted March 31, 2010 @ 4:46 am
Ron Paul absolutely never 'egged on' anyone to not turn in forms. He refused to put a stamp of approval on the census going beyond asking the number of people in a household, by refusing to vote to 'encourage' people to return it. However, that is consistent with his view that people have to make their own decisions. He clearly stated in his 'Texas Straight Talk' article that he disliked its intrusion, that if Congress really wanted more compliance they should think about sticking to the Constitutional bare bones request, and ALSO that failing to turn it in could cost you a $5000 fine. That is hardly 'egging people on' to not turn it in.
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Comment posted March 31, 2010 @ 4:54 am
Weighing irresponsible rhetoric
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677/#36090736
Palin rejoins Mccain on the campaign trail
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677/#36060209
Palin suggests violence in online posting
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677/#36010425
GOP self-destruction imminent
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677/#35994250
Comment posted March 31, 2010 @ 5:06 am
see for yourself
The 2010 Census is underway. Check out your community's Participation Rate.
http://2010.census.gov/2010census/take10map/
Comment posted March 31, 2010 @ 5:36 am
Yes, but when he doesn't tell anyone that their state stands to benefit, in the way of funding for their states, isn't that being just a bit irresponsible?
The form HAS changed. I remember having a difficult enough time filling out the last one, a decade ago, because it WAS intrusive. WAAAY too many questions I thought no one had a right to know, but this last iteration is pretty bare-bones. I didn't see a problem with it.
I never knew anyone who didn't turn theirs in being fined. I don't think it's a credible threat.
Is the “egg on” a dig from Searchlight? If so, consider that the TPers were from out-of-state. The “egg throwers” probably weren't. It would then be indicative of how well the “rally” was received by Nevada residents, wouldn't you think?
Comment posted March 31, 2010 @ 5:46 am
What the heck do you mean by “the likes of Ron Paul”, Mr. Weigel? I haven't heard that he's discouraging anyone from filling out and returning the census forms.
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Comment posted March 31, 2010 @ 10:28 am
Bare bones this census only asks how many people there are in your house.
The American Community Survey is also less intrusive then other past census. Only 3 million people will get it over the course of ten years. It asks none of the things these anti-govt' types are up in arms over. The Constitutiton demands a Census.
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Comment posted March 31, 2010 @ 3:20 pm
Of course. you're right, but try telling that to the devotees of Fox noise and that crank, Glenn Beck. They're still trying to scare folk with “Cloward-Piven”. What a gigantic load of crap.
And yes, the census IS in the Constitution. I guess Michelle Bachmann hasn't read it that far, yet.
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Comment posted March 31, 2010 @ 8:48 pm
You think these people are stupid. You think this is their problem and not yours. You're wrong. They're going to make it your problem, because the next step is cries of “taxation without representation”.
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Comment posted April 5, 2010 @ 2:04 am
Most of Texas, Western Louisiana, New Mexico and Northern AZ are reporting that the census form was not received. There are many stories about conservative areas not receiving census forms. Western WA, Wi, Mi, Fla, Ga are missing census forms for entire towns. Idaho is reporting large swatches where forms were not received.
People cannot return what they have not received
All of the areas reporting with few exceptions are conservative, It may be the government used the Acorn canvassing maps and the democrat voter registration address list to mail the forms.
I suggest you google: Census No Form Received.
Rush Limbaugh and I have not been counted since 1970 and the census has adjusted for white overcount in every census since. I wonder what the true population of the US is…450 – 600 million?
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