Through Tears, Tea Party Activists Vow to Keep Fighting Health Care Reform

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Monday, March 22, 2010 at 10:40 am
Tea Partiers on Capitol Hill this weekend (Photo by David Weigel)

Tea Partiers on Capitol Hill this weekend (Photo by David Weigel)

The Tea Party activists huddled on the south lawn of the Capitol got the news of health care reform’s passage in the cruelest way. As their enthusiasm had flagged, a small group of pro-health care reform activists had nestled into space right next to the Capitol wall. Outnumbered ten to one, none of them looking a day under thirty, they learned via Twitter when the House crossed the 216 vote mark to pass the Senate version’s of health care reform. Bouncing up and down, waving faded and crumpled signs, they mugged for TV cameras. That prompted a few Tea Party activists to lower a massive American flag between the pro-”Obamacare” forces and the lights and lenses. The liberals cried foul. Park police broke the tension. And the Tea Partiers looked back at the Capitol and chanted “Na na na, hey hey, goodbye.” Just because the bill had passed didn’t mean they couldn’t kill it.

[GOP1]“The most important thing to remember,” said Jenny Beth Martin of Tea Party Patriots, throwing her hoarse voice into a megaphone, “is that the fight for freedom, it never ends! In the next days, you’re going to find out what you can do to stop it in the Senate. If it becomes law, we’re going to fight to repeal it in the next Congress!”

The roughly 250 activists, some of them wiping away tears, cheered for Martin, then belted out “The Star-Spangled Banner,” then recited the pledge of allegiance. Rep. Pete Hoekstra (R-Mich.) slipped through their ranks unnoticed, then politely took the megaphone for himself.

“The American people lost today,” said Hoekstra, “but we’ve got some opportunities. We’ll fight this in the courts. We’ll fight this at the ballot box. Hopefully, in January, we’ll have enough votes to begin the process of repealing this bill.” The crowd cheered as Hoekstra — who is leaving Congress to run for governor of Michigan — walked out and Rep. Steve King (R-Iowa) walked in.

“I just came down here,” said King, “so I could say to you, God bless you.”

“God bless you!” shouted one activist.

“We’re here whenever you need us!” said another activist, patting King on the back.

“You are the awesome American people,” said King. “If I could start a country with a bunch of people, they’d be the folks who were standing with us the last few days. Let’s hope we don’t have to do that! Let’s beat that other side to a pulp! Let’s chase them down. There’s going to be a reckoning!” One by one, the people gathered outside the Capitol, who’d spent the day cheering and singing whenever Republicans appeared and egged them on, came to the realization that they’d been beaten in this round. They’d have to redouble their efforts.

As King spoke, FreedomWorks campaign director Brendan Steinhauser looked on, pondering over the last year of Tea Party activism — especially the last two months. On January 19, the Tea Parties helped elect Sen. Scott Brown (R-Mass.) to the seat of the late Ted Kennedy and — so they thought — put the stake in health care reform. “ObamaCare,” wrote The Weekly Standard’s Fred Barnes after the Brown victory, “is dead with not the slightest prospect of resurrection.” A popular sign at the evening’s rally, spotted again at the Saturday rally that Steinhauser helped organize, portrayed President Obama as a vampire climbing out of a coffin marked “health care.” Opponents of health care reform, pondered Steinhauser, did not quite see the health care bill recovering and passing as it did.

“The media’s going to promote it as a victory for Democrats,” he said. “But I think enough people are out there — maybe they weren’t following it as closely today — who are going to pay attention now. We’re looking at what’s going to happen in the states, we’re possibly looking at legal challenges.”

Tea Party activists and Republicans were in total agreement after the call of the vote — they would go all-in on legal and legislative attacks on health care reform. But the lateness with which they considered a post-Brown Democratic victory on health care, and the speed with which they moved to a hardcore responses, mirrored the decision-making process of Democrats just a few months ago.

“We were roommates in Massachusetts, working for Brown,” said Mark Falzone, a New Jersey activist, pointing to his friend, Virginia activist David Morchek. “When we left there, we thought all this crap was over.”

Democrats had been slow to see the threat posed by Brown, a talented politician facing a creaky establishment and weak candidate, with the issues on his side. And once Brown won, Democratic leaders picked up the suggestion their left-leaning allies had been making all year — to break the logjam created by the GOP’s abuse of Senate procedure and pass a bill through the up-or-down reconciliation process. Similarly, Republicans and Tea Partiers saw Brown’s election as a game-changing event that would scare Democrats away from a comprehensive health care bill. When it became clear that Democrats would push forward, the Tea Partiers mobilized quickly. For much of Saturday and Sunday, they hoped that their response would keep Democrats from cobbling together the votes they needed. But around 4 p.m., when news got out that Rep. Bart Stupak (D-Mich.) would accept a compromise on abortion funding and swing his support to the bill, the mood outside the Capitol grew dark, and the activists who’d been talking all this time about Constitutional challenges, and the essential evil of President Obama, got vindication.

“We had a dream,” said Deborah Welch, who joined her husband Chris on an eight-hour drive to the rally from Dayton, Ohio. “All of the Democrats and all of the Republicans were on this teeter-totter, and they were falling off. Nancy Pelosi was hanging on to Barney Frank by his pants — his pants were coming down. And Obama was standing out in the grass, watching it. What that meant was that Obama doesn’t care what happens to Congress. He has an agenda. He wants to collapse America.”

Joe Chalmers, an unemployed activist who’d come to the rally in camouflage, told TWI he wasn’t in the military — he “didn’t want to fight for oil.” But he won both criticism and nods of the head as he talked to protesters about the need for a real uprising against the Democrats. As a Democratic victory looked more and more likely, Tea Partiers got more ornery about the liberals who’d showed up to cheer for reform and take commemorative photos of what, to them, looked like the end of a year of agenda-slowing right-wing activism.

“Look at that idiot!” said Linda Cocsy, a New Yorker who’d spent the weekend in Washington for the protests, pointing at one of the young Democrats who’d infiltrated the protest, holding up a pro-reform sign provided by a pro-choice Catholic group. “This one, here with the stupid grin on his face! He looks likes he’s brainless. You look at these people and, they really look like jerks. You look at the other people, with the Don’t Tread on Me [flags], and they look like real people!” Cocsy stared off at another protester, waving a sign he’d picked up from a pro-immigration reform protest that had broken up around the time that Stupak announced his flip. “I just wanna kill them!” said Cocsy.

That rhetoric didn’t have too many takers. After passage, after King had finished talking, Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.) adressed the crowd and beseeched it to commit “no violence” as it fought for health care repeal. Instead, they needed to focus on the elections, and on holding Democrats accountable.

“Remember who caused this bill to pass!” said Bachmann. “Not only was it Nancy Pelosi, it was the so-called pro-life Democrats, who can no longer call themselves pro-life.”

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chrisjay
Comment posted March 22, 2010 @ 3:08 pm

“Look at the idiot!”, says the teabagger, of an American who dares to express an opinion different to her's.
Yes, I'll continue to hold in contempt these people who can't even figure out what they're mad about, other than a black President


ellid
Comment posted March 22, 2010 @ 3:22 pm

Criswell predicts:

By the 2012 elections these self-same people will all be signed for health plans and will be foaming at the mouth at the mere suggestion that someone will take their insurance away.


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Nick
Comment posted March 22, 2010 @ 3:32 pm

Gods, do wingnuts ever shut up and quit whining like babies? Waaa waaa waaa, that's all they've been doing ever since Obama took office. Just shut your mouths already, ok? You just got your fat asses kicked to the curb after months of screaming 'death panels' and that didn't work.


Pepin
Comment posted March 22, 2010 @ 3:38 pm

Why is Rep. Steve King once again making treasonous statements without anyone calling him on it? Threatening to start another country? Where, exactly, would he be doing this?


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jebpgh
Comment posted March 22, 2010 @ 4:05 pm

This morning I realized how totally lost these folks were. I was in my doctor's office and the nurse taking my vitals asked if I watched the vote last night. I said yes and she said she was relieved. Her fiance's son has a pre-existing condition and now that will get resolved. She had a child too and saw the bill as a huge step in the right direction. I don't talk politics with my doctors and nurses so this came as a surprise. I said that most personal bankruptcies are caused by health care costs and she agreed. So here was this nice, white, single mom working in a very middle class community and she got it – totally. And that is why this whole process is a house of cards. Now that the bill is there for all to see and the key talking points are there and the media finally stops reinforcing myths and legends about what exactly was in the bill we can see how much of a “base” is out there. I think it will melt like the snows of February…


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Comment posted March 22, 2010 @ 4:28 pm

As a Christian, I feel my prayers have been answered. Finally, a bill that is a direction in heeding Christ's call to help the poor. I pray for the tea party people to let go of their anger. I pray to understand it, but I cannot.


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Comment posted March 22, 2010 @ 6:14 pm

Congrats! America Health Care is the greatest gift you can recieve from your government. When my husband got spinal cancer (Canadian Health Care) we had no work, and yet my husband was sent to the best oncologists, received MRI's, emergency procedures, recieved a bed in hospital and all his drugs, the most advanced to treat his type of cancer. All his needs were taken care of and I did not have to pay a cent. God bless Health Care availability for all.


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MoeLarryAndJesus
Comment posted March 22, 2010 @ 7:00 pm

Keep on crying and babbling, teabaggers. You have nothing constructive to offer America. What a sad bunch of ignorant racist fools you are.


Pug
Comment posted March 22, 2010 @ 7:02 pm

Well, they can always degrade Parkinson's disease patients by contemptuosly throwing dollar bills at them. That should make thems feel better.


Dave
Comment posted March 22, 2010 @ 7:10 pm

“Cocsy stared off at another protester, waving a sign he’d picked up from a pro-immigration reform protest that had broken up around the time that Stupak announced his flip. “I just wanna kill them!” said Cocsy.”

And there you have it folks – your typical tea-bagger, referring to progressives: “I just wanna kill them”

Nice. The blood is on your hands, King, Bachmann, Hoekstra, Neugebauer, et. al


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KingCranky
Comment posted March 22, 2010 @ 7:25 pm

Once again, the teabaggers are angry at everything but want nothing to change.

They rail against bailing out Wall Street, yet say that govt. regulations to stop future meltdowns result in a loss of freedom.

These idiots would have sided with King George III during the revolution, and would have insisted the US side with the Axis powers during WWII.


Dan
Comment posted March 22, 2010 @ 7:37 pm

I always find the name caller amusing..tea baggers or whatever crafty name people come up with. I wonder…do they feel the same about Code Pink or MoveOn.org who offer just as inflammatory rhetoric when things don't go their way. Be consistant…stand up for the name calling your particular organization spouts. If your organization can slander at will…be proud…its not about what is best for the country….its what's in it for you…the two parties continue to successfully keep the country divided, way to lend a hand!


jrshipley
Comment posted March 22, 2010 @ 7:54 pm

I'd like to volunteer to take on Steve King in a sanctioned mma event. Let him try beating me to a pulp. However, I don't think his calls for violence are appropriate for politics. Isn't there a word for trying to influence political outcomes through violence and intimidation?


Lyris
Comment posted March 22, 2010 @ 8:02 pm

I don't know if most of these people have an education above the fifth grade, but it's quite clear they have no idea what they are protesting.

They have been spoon fed lies for a long time by fnc, their elected officials and they need to start learning to think for themselves and to look for the facts on their own with reliable sources, because they sure aren't getting the facts.


Loggie
Comment posted March 22, 2010 @ 8:13 pm

Amen to that!. My daughter is diabetic. Her insulin and supplies cost nearly 20K per year. Now at least I know she will be able to get affordable health coverage.

This isn't socialism.. It's smart.


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Myview
Comment posted March 22, 2010 @ 8:32 pm

I don't see why our politicians wasted precious time when they could have just restructured our Medicare, Medicaid health care programs to fit our health care needs, sign us up for which ever one we fall in depending on our financial situation, mail us our insurance card. There really is no need for 1 more Health Care program except that now insurance companies are going to make more money than they already make because employers that were not offering insurance now have to buy insurance. Individuals have to buy insurance or pay a penalty, once again the insurance company makes money and families that couldn't afford to buy insurance now will be given subsidy money to help them pay for the insurance policy they have to purchase, more money for the insurance companies. Plus to pay for this $938 Billion Bill they are going to increase taxes and impose taxes. They should have increased the portion of the payroll tax paid by the employers and employees for Medicare and allow people to purchase a private insurance plan if they wish to in addition to their Medicare plan. They went around in circles and the whole time we all could have already been on Medicare or Medicaid, all they had to do was change/ammend the rules.


mantis
Comment posted March 22, 2010 @ 8:33 pm

it's quite clear they have no idea what they are protesting.

Oh they know. It's the black guy in the White House. Most of them are just afraid to say it.


mantis
Comment posted March 22, 2010 @ 8:34 pm

Coherence called. They miss you.


fauxgrass
Comment posted March 22, 2010 @ 8:42 pm

I called Rep. King's DC office this morning to ask exactly what he meant by the comments quoted in this article. The woman who answered said she had not seen these particular comments, but that she could assure me that the Congressman was not endorsing violence. What did beating the other side to a pulp mean, then, I asked? You have to look at the Congressman's comments in context, she replied. What context might that be, I wondered, the part about chasing the other side down so there can be a reckoning?

When I asked about Rep. King's comment just a few days ago that he didn't think Tea Partiers' directing hurling slurs at black and gay Representatives and spitting on a black Rep amounted to anything, she again said that the comment had to be considered in context.

It's clear that people like Rep. King (and perhaps his staff as well) live in such a well-insulated echo chamber that they have come to fully believe their histrionic vision of where Obama is taking the country and feel that this justifies extreme, even violent, rhetoric. I'd urge others who agree that this sort of language from elected officials is simply unacceptable to call them up and call them out on it.


Nancy W.
Comment posted March 22, 2010 @ 9:30 pm

As Nelson Muntz would say:

Ha ha!


sethw76
Comment posted March 22, 2010 @ 9:45 pm

The democrats made a mistake by trying to be moderate and compromise right away. They knew that a single-payer system like you're talking about, and like President Clinton tried in 93 would be difficult to pass. They thought that by proposing a moderate, market-based insurance program like Mitt Romney's they would be able to gain some bipartisan support. What they didn't realize is that the Republican party had a different agenda that had nothing whatsoever to do with policy. Their mistake was they didn't anticipate the GOP holding the country hostage for a year to prevent a democratic legislative victory. It took over a year of enduring GOP slash and burn tactics to finally realize that nothing could be accomplished with the current republican party, fueled by radicalized media and tea party elements. But there's room now to move forward with more reform. Now that health is finally a right for all Americans, it's possible to improve the bill.


FrequentPoster
Comment posted March 22, 2010 @ 11:07 pm

I feel like one of those shoguns in a James Clavell novel, meditating to the screams of an English sailor being boiled alive. Oh, the Tea Party's beautiful agony!

This is one of those cases where, if you go gunning for the king, you'd better succeed. Now that the Republicans have lost, they're in a pickle. The Tea Party will force them to demand repeal, but their demand for repeal will work against them in elections. The public got sick of the fighting and reacted against the label, but people want what's in the bill, and they're going to want the Republicans to help make it work.

But they won't be able to do that, because the Tea Party will demand that Republicans agitate for “repeal,” the price being non-participation in this fall's elections. I think that's what ya call being stuck between a rock and a hard place.

Oh, those beautiful screams!


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Susan
Comment posted March 23, 2010 @ 1:05 am

The members of the Tea Party are paid by the insurance companies. Why doesn't the media do a little investigation of that? Get some W-2s, really find out. I am willing to bet actual cash that many of those people are paid to go out and lie and misrepresent the American people.


jjfitz
Comment posted March 23, 2010 @ 3:54 am

Well said!


chrisjay
Comment posted March 23, 2010 @ 5:20 am

The Tea Party came up with the term 'Teabagger'; it was only after they christened themselves thusly did the unintentional humor manifest—-can't blame this one on progressives—–the wingnuts did it all by themselves to themselves.
You can't gin-up this kind of profound and comical ignorance!


chrisjay
Comment posted March 23, 2010 @ 5:26 am

Isn't this the part of the Clavell novel where the disgraced traitors sit cross-legged in ceremonial robe and commit ritual seppuku?
Rep King, you go first. Then there's Boehner, Steele, Bachmann, Neugebauer…


Myview
Comment posted March 23, 2010 @ 3:51 pm

Hello sethw76 – I did reply to you- at first system said “just a moment” and now I don’t see my reply. 2 Reply

Thanks for replying – I'm a business owner, Businesses won't have to offer healthcare to employees – I don't see room for reform-maybe you're seeing something I'm not seeing – most of the new Health Care Bill won’t kick in until 2014 – I got details from CNN Money, Huffington Post- both have good explanations.

Our businesses with less than 50 workers are not required to offer insurance coverage to our employees nor do we pay a penalty. Individuals/families are however required by law to buy a health insurance policy and can if they qualify ( must meet poverty level of $88,200 yearly for a family of 4) get government subsidy money to help them pay for the insurance policy or individuals/families pay a fine/penalty at the end of the year if they don’t buy a health insurance policy.

Individuals/Families can buy a plan from the State-based pools “SHOP Exchanges” to get a better price (especially since parents can keep their adult children up to age 26 on the policy – it can get pretty expensive). Employers that do offer health care plans will have to cover 60% of the policy plus it must meet specific benefits/services and also buy insurance policies from the SHOP Exchanges state pools

Businesses with more than 50 workers do pay a $750. per worker penalty if they don’t offer health coverage plus a penalty of $2000. if any employee qualifies to get government subsidy money to help pay for his individual insurance policy.

So, the question we owners face is, do we let employees go to fall under 50 workers to be exempt from offering coverage and avoid a penalty or do we keep all employees, offer coverage, hope we get cheap price from the SHOP Exchange state pools or is it cheaper to pay a $750. penalty per worker and not offer health coverage?

This is why I thought it would be better, easier, cheaper, faster to ammend, restructure the rules of Medicare and Medicaid as both healthcare programs already exist in our country. Put us all under either Medicare or Medicaid program, we could get our healthcare card in 5 months, better than to create a 3 new healthcare program that will cost us $940 billion and they’re going to take money out of Medicare for it, taxes have to go up to pay for it and people, businesses are forced to buy insurance policies or pay fines/penalties, which means the Insurance Industry will get richer with everyone having to buy insurance policies.


Rebecca
Comment posted March 24, 2010 @ 12:57 am

These Tea Party Activists seem to be dangerous in their reasoning and rationale They are carrying weapons on their person. Screaming profanities, Bigot name Calling. It is like a collective psychosis of a lynch mob. They will believe anything the right wing propaganda machine tells them. There is no individuality. They believe (only) what they want to hear. Bi-partisanship is a thing of the past.


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peterprinciple
Comment posted March 24, 2010 @ 9:12 pm

Just the fact that Bachmann felt the need to urge non-violence says a lot about this bunch.

It's like I always say: A fascist is just a libertarian who thinks someone is going to raise his taxes.


triathlon
Comment posted March 25, 2010 @ 10:43 pm

OFF WITH THEIR HEADS!!!

[We salute those who are about to die]

Now, in all honesty we are on the side of those who are taking a stand against the Capital Gang, in the Beltway, and have no sympathy, BOO-WOO, not a drop, in Our Humble Opinion, we would completely support either a Coliseum, in which the entire of the Imperial Court would be matched off against each other and we would be in the stands saluting those who are about to die, or having their heads removed by Madame La Guillotine, into the basket and then on to a pike along Pennsylvania Avenue. So what has been happening that the modern day French Style Imperial Court, which has made the Gazette of Monsieur Hercule Triathlon Savinien?
[The Gazette]

* A bullet was shot through the window of one of the court fobs, the fob was not hurt the window has been repaired; the shooter was a bad shot.

* A coffin was found on the lawn of another court jester, it was not up to the standard for the jesters use, it was quickly removed, it was suggested that an urn would be more appropriate.

* Another Imperial Clown received a phone call; you, baby-killing mother—er. … I hope you bleed out your a–, got cancer and die, you mother—er, the Imperial Clowns Mother leaped up out of his sons bed, and ran to the Church for absolution of the Priest, over having done away with the child of her, and her son, while her son called for a physician to check is backside.

* A man swears at a court goose while wishing for the goose to die, the man tossing [3] Three Coins in the fountain, we will report if and when the wish is granted for us all.

* Somebody also cut a propane line attached to a grill at the home of yet another lamentable court peacocks brother, whose address was mistakenly posted online as being that of the fine feather courtesan, the U. S. Capitol Police were immediately dispatched to check, check the court peacock and brother for Gas but only found Hot Air, a repairman was called to repair the propane line.

* The court lawmakers called upon media to not be used as a vehicle for political gain, from either the balcony or on the floor of the House, therefore the Media and those culpable colleagues left the balcony or the floor of the House, to continue the fanning of and pouring more and more gasoline on the already dangerous fires of partisan issues, elsewhere.

* It was announced that any suggestion that a leader in the body of District Clowns, that would incite threats or acts against other members clowns was is akin to saying that they would endanger themselves, their wives, or children, the wives have filed for divorce and the children have been sent to military schools around the Empire.

[Off With Their Heads]

Let’s get real for a change, the Israeli-American Empire is in decline, with the Washington, D. C. [District of Clowns] the most detested, hated and despised group of individuals on the face of the Blue Jewel of a Plant upon which [6B] Six-Billion human beings live. The strutting Peacocks within the Beltway are full of themselves, out of touch not only with those they were tasked to govern, but out of thus with the new [21st] Global reality. The Media Messiah Imperial President is not considered as a legal office holder, a LIAR and called a LIAR on the Floor of the House of the People, and the Anti-Christ by Deist. With [8] Eight regions within the Empire calling for Secession and the tearing apart of the Empire, foreign leaders openly question the Messiah’s ability to lead in any fashion, with those in his Imperial Court as paid minion of [AIPAC/AZC]: The American Israeli Public Affairs Committee/American Zionist Council, by those it governs and the Global Community of Spheres of Influence, all of whome make pilgrimages quarterly to their conferences pledging their Loyalty to the [Unshakable Special Relationship with, deep running bonds, Strong as a Rock, one’s security resting in the security of the other.] And, then they wonder why the Citizens are calling for the heads of the Aristo’s, what should we do with them Citizen, why take them to Madame La Guillotine [OFF WITH THEIR HEADS!!!].

HERCULE TRIATHLON SAVINEN


Oly_guy
Comment posted March 26, 2010 @ 7:07 am

Also the 50 state strategy put some conservative dems in office. No way they were going to Single Payer. Had to fight tooth and nail to get what we got. And we fought them. We have met the enemy and they are us.

In the old days some liberal (hell moderate) rebups would have joined in just on the fact that it has a lot of their ideology in it.

If they are just going to say no, then the only thing they have is to try to delegitimize the administration. You can't be seen working with them. That's what a lot of the ginned-up birther, Muslim, socialist, fascist comes from.

Don't think that one will work over time and they have kind of painted themselves into a corner.


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Comment posted March 26, 2010 @ 2:43 pm

This morning on HLN CNN they were reporting the details of the threats on our politicians. I just can't believe that anyone is crazy enough to throw a brick into Rep. Louise Slaughter's window which could have easily killed her or anyone in her office and they shot a bullet into Rep. Eric Cantor's window that they said it went in but didn't damage anything, it could have killed him or anyone standing in his office. What is wrong with all this fruitcakes???? I can't believe anyone would endanger people's lifes just because a new health care bill was passed.


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Comment posted March 29, 2010 @ 3:47 am

Oh these teabaggers….wheh they are interviewed…so many reveal how little they understand…such as “tell the government to keep their hands off my Medicare”…but that is just one of many. Socialism is so scarey to them..yet they take part in Social Security and many of them in Medicare. What do they think the corporations get with all “sweet deals” and looking the other way about pollution because congress lets them fill their coffers with money. Is that corporate socialism or downright criminal? They want to take the country back….how far ? To Reagan's time…they need to read up on how bad things were for all but the very rich during his presidency….but they have made him a folk hero….because he was an actor who played “nice”. ( I know, he was my governor before my President.) They want no laws restricting their freedom….no seat belt laws, no anti-trust bills…back to the days of the robber barons…are they out of their minds? No, not all of them…but terribly misguided by Fox and conservative radio….anyone that relies only on that for info…is brainwashed! Say a prayer this group realizes what a wonderful caring President we have and stop letting the racists rule you because the man is not white. By 2012, more people will be of color than white…..then what? Going to form their own country? Come on people….let reasonable minds perservere and let the hatred die down..our country needs to regain their souls.


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Comment posted March 29, 2010 @ 7:18 pm

I remembered Pres. Obama at some time saying that the IRS would hire 17,000 employees. I want to inform families that I found a website http:federaljobs.net/irsagent.htm where they can read and apply for a job with the IRS. IRS is hiring 17,000 new IRS Agents to enforce the new Health Care Law. It says that IRS Agents make an annual average salary that exceeds $42,000.

These new agents will be in charge of enforcing the new Health Care Law that was passed, as I understand it has to do with the fine/penalty that people that don't buy an insurance policy will be required to pay and the penalty businesses are to pay that don't offer insurance policy to their employees.

I read these new IRS Agents are supposed to handle the 1099-style form that insurance companies are to give individuals and to the IRS as everyone is to proof they have an insurance policy, proof is to be turned in with your federal tax return so these new agents would be handling such federal tax returns.

Also, I read that because the fine/penalty becomes a Tax, the interest and penalties as those that apply to income tax not paid will also apply to the new law and these new agents will handle it.

I read these new IRS agents will also handle the tax on high cost “Cadillac” insurance benefits; subsidies for low income people who have to purchase insurance policy; small business tax-credits, audits, etc…

I would think people could phone the IRS directly to confirm salary, benefits, starting date, etc…before applying for the job online. I hope this will help some of you find a job, get back on your feet.


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Comment posted April 7, 2010 @ 12:25 am

You seem to have read an awful lot of things.

Where did you read:
1) The IRS will enforce 'the new Health Care Law'?
2) IRS forms supplied by insurance companies?
3) Levied fines will become a tax?
4) Levied fines will be considered delinquent taxes owed?
5) The IRS will handle insurance policy taxes?
6) The IRS will handle insurance subsidies?
7) The IRS will handle insurance policy tax-credits for small business?
8) The IRS will handle insurance policy audits?


Myview
Comment posted April 7, 2010 @ 8:23 pm

At Library of Congress go to http://thomas.loc.gov/ when it opens you will see on the right side choices-click on H.R.3590 Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act ( which is part of the new Health Care Bill, you will see listed as Reconciliation Act of 2010) start reading or scroll down to Subtitle F: Shared Responsibility for Health Care – Part I: Individual Responsibility Sec. 1501 and Sec. 1502, IRS duties. Then scroll down to almost the end to Sec. 9002 Requires employers to include in the W-2 Form employee info of health insurance policy cost. Also, see H.R. 3962 Title IV.

Then go to http://dpc.senate.gov/healthreformbill/healthbi…
this is The Patient Protection and Affordable Act in the Senate website. Read section subtitle F-Shared responsibility for Health Care Sec. 5000A
subsection sec.1502. and sec. 6055 IRS and Sec 1513 and Sec 9002.

All is in there, you are just going to have to do a lot of reading and looking at different sections.

Also, IRS is already hiring see http:federaljobs.net/irsagent.htm
IRS agents to inforce the new health care law


Myview
Comment posted April 8, 2010 @ 3:44 am

I forgot to give you H.R.3200 America's Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009 regarding imposing a tax on an individual without coverage. When you open it click on CSR Summary to read it. You'll see it listed on the right side when you open the Library of Congress Thomas at http://thomas.loc.gov/
I'm still reading it.


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Myview
Comment posted April 14, 2010 @ 10:05 pm

Here's another area I read http://dpc.senate.gov/healthreformbill/healthbi… of the Health Care Bill ( The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act )

This section raised to me the question, why do employers have to report the employee's insurance policy cost on their W-2 Form to the IRS? Will the IRS see it as an increase to the employee's gross wages and employee pays a tax on it? Will IRS consider it an Asset to the employee?

As I have stated before as a business owner I am concerned on the impact the Health Care Bill will have on the financials of our companies, on employees, jobs due to the new taxes, tax law changes, provisions, regulations and will employers be able to keep all their employees on payroll, will employers cut hours, cut jobs. And will employees have the money to buy an insurance policy if they don’t get insurance from their employer or have the money to pay the tax(fine) to the IRS if employee chooses not buy a policy? Will employers have the money to offer insurance to their employees or have the money to pay the tax(fine) to the IRS if they can’t offer insurance to employees? Hopefully, I'll get answers when I meet with the tax accountant.


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I remembered Pres. Obama at some time saying that the IRS would hire 17,000 employees. I want to inform families that I found a website http:federaljobs.net/irsagent.htm where they can read and apply for a job with the IRS. IRS is hiring 17,000 new IRS Agents to enforce the new Health Care Law. It says that IRS Agents make an annual average salary that exceeds $42,000


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