Rep. Mary Jo Kilroy Gets a Gift From Tea Partiers

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Thursday, March 18, 2010 at 10:12 am

An ugly video of Tea Party protesters, gathered outside the office of Rep. Mary Joe Kilroy (D-Ohio), mocking a pro-health care reform protester — who sits silently behind a sign informing passersby that he has Parkinson’s Disease — goes up on Kilroy’s campaign site. The endangered freshman Democrat is now “calling on the organizations that promoted the rally — including the Columbus Tea Party, and Americans for Prosperity – and those who attended to condemn what happened.”

Here’s the video.

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mepmep09
Comment posted March 18, 2010 @ 3:11 pm

Yes. More of this, Dems. Stop cowering under your desks, and deal with these a**holes head-on.


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24WienersAheadDotCom
Comment posted March 18, 2010 @ 5:36 pm

Nice.
They put the ass in Klassy.


youmustbejoking
Comment posted March 18, 2010 @ 9:42 pm

And these are the people saying they want “their America back”! I want no part of “their America”. It is an ugly place and not the place I want to live! Don't they remind you of the bully's in junior high? They would make fun of a kid on crutches.


carole fritz
Comment posted March 19, 2010 @ 12:03 am

WHY CAN'T WE HAVE A VOTE. LET ME VOTE MY OWN SAY! IN BLACK AND WHITE I DON'T NEED GOVERNERMENT MAKING DESIONS FOR ME THIS IS WHY I AM AN AMERICAN. LET ME HAVE MY OWN CHOICES. I WORK HARD I WANT MY OWN DR.
NOT YOUR CHOICE.. I WANT TO SEE PELOISE AND OBAMA AND FAMILY HAVE TO USE THE SAME!!!! THAT WON'T HAPPEN RIGHT!!! WHY?


Susie Toman
Comment posted March 19, 2010 @ 12:54 am

Those stupid, ignorant and uninformed people should be castrated so that they cannot procreate or poison anyone else's minds. We are a shameful nation exhibiting to our future generation that we should be tunnel visioned, self centered and rude instead of rational and mature in order to present our opinions. It makes me sick to my stomach to see my fellow Americans behave in such a manner.
I spoke with a very wealthy commercial insurance man, a staunch Republican and southern bigot, who lost his job two weeks ago – too many appointments on the golf course and in the bar. He is now very anxious for healthcare reform to pass considering his present circumstances. My, how we change our tune when it benefits us. I'd love to converse with that ignoramus throwing the money at the man when one of his children develops leukemia or is in need of life saving surgery.
If this hadn't been sent to me to view, I would not have even given anything like this the time of day. You are only feeding the beast by giving them air time.


youmustbejoking
Comment posted March 19, 2010 @ 1:05 am

You are buying into the lies that you won't have choices. You will not only have choices, you will probably have better choices because insurance companies will not be able to discriminate based on pre-existing conditions or because you get sick. You just have to have insurance. That is a good thing. If you are already on Medicare, than you will continue to have the same choices you have now. You still get to see your doctor. The difference is many other people will have insurance too. How is that a bad thing?


youmustbejoking
Comment posted March 19, 2010 @ 1:14 am

I like that a democratic representative can use this against those who are trying to smear her. This is a perfect example of the kind of people that have come out of the woodwork as a result of the lies and distortions that have come out on the right. When you combine that with the people that just hate the fact that Obama is in office, this is what you get. The tea party events all over the country have been the same- some worse than others. One of the common themes is the hatred directed toward the president. Shameful, yes. But this must be put out there or else regular folks like you don't know how far it has gone and don't realize the part they have in stopping them in their tracks. The best way to do that is to get out and vote. Even though elections in-between presidential elections typically don't have a great turnout, it is more important than ever for people who think the actions of these people are despicable to get out and vote for the candidates who these kinds of people don't support. That seems to be the democrats because there have been very few republicans that have had the guts to stand up and say no to these people.


Hogarth Kramer
Comment posted March 19, 2010 @ 12:58 pm

Just as anti-war protesters were all painted with the same brush when a very, very small number of them crossed the line, Tea Party protesters will now unfairly all be lumped in with a couple of morons. It wasn't fair then, and it isn't fair now.

It is easy to categorize Tea Party protesters as greedy, selfish, and uncaring. And yes, we will also see their motives described as hatred of the President or simple racism. As if the eight years of visceral Bush hatred invalidated principled opposition to the war in Iraq.

In both cases, what are legitimate and honest disagreements with our government are swept away with simple but incorrect misrepresentations of motive. No one makes any attempt at all to listen to the concerns of their “opposition.”

Tea Partiers are not greedy, selfish, cruel, or racists. They are concerned for the health of our country. The current administration has taken the horrible, uncontrolled spending habits of the Bush administration and, rather than bring the level of fiscal responsibility that was promised by Pelosi/Reid/Obama, has spent even more money that we don't have. With the so-called “reform” of health care, they are poised to throw up even further into unpayable debt.

The bill that Democrats are so reluctant to put their names on is a travesty of governmental overreach. It is an unsustainable entitlement that will only serve to reduce the quality of health care in this country to the lowest common denominator while pushing massive costs into the next decade. Anyone that believes that they will receive better care at a lower cost as a result of this immense power grab is simply not looking at the details.

People look at the proposed taxes on those making more than $200,000 a year and think it's not their problem – just let those “rich people” pay for it. That is the same mentality that today has ordinary workers paying the AMT tax, a tax that was passed in order to tax the truly rich people like the Rockefellers. Congress cleverly didn't index the income required to trigger that tax, just as they won't index the $200,000 limit. With the double digit inflation we will soon see as we struggle to get out from under our mountain of debt, we will all end up paying these taxes.

Go ahead and stick your heads in the sand and disparage the people that see a massive governmental debt crisis just over the horizon. Pretend that it is possible to destroy the health insurance industry and cover 30,000,000 people with no ill effect on the quality of care available in this country. Willfully ignore that fact that health care “reform” of the type proposed by Obama/Pelosi/Reid has nearly bankrupted every single country that has tried it.

Go ahead, call me a greedy racist. Just keep ignoring the Washington spending and power grabs. Follow along like nice little compliant sheep and keep telling yourself that everything is fine. I'm sure it will all work out just fine for you.


Daveg
Comment posted March 19, 2010 @ 1:04 pm

Do you understand how insurance works?? When insurance companies are forced to cover anyone that walks through the door with any condition at all, the whole thing falls apart. How long do you think car insurance would last if you just waited until you wrecked your car to buy it? Oh, sure, “you have to have insurance.” Or what? Pay a $695 fine?? So my choice is to buy (or get someone else to do it for me with gov't money) a $14,000 policy, or just pay $695 a year until I get sick? Yeah, that's going to work. I'm not sure on which planet that will work, but I'm sure it will work somewhere. Just not here.

If you have Medicare, you will have the same choices you have now, which is to say “very few.” Doctors are already reluctant to take Medicare patients because it pays them so poorly. On the remote chance the we actually see the cost savings being promised in Medicare (a promise that has been broken every single year like clockwork), doctors will go from being reluctant to outright refusing to take Medicare patients. Good luck with that.


youmustbejoking
Comment posted March 19, 2010 @ 5:08 pm

I understand perfectly how insurance works. I also understand how greed works and I see greed at work in every insurance company that pays CEOs and management outrageous salaries and benefits while denying a claim for a person who has paid premiums for years and years. When an insurance company makes billions of dollars in profit, thats profit, and then turns around and raises rates on their insured by 30 something to 40 something percent, that's greed. Anyone defending the actions of many of the insurance companies in the way they have treated their clients either works for them or is a fool because insurance companies have been screwing Americans for a long time. The idea of making insurance more affordable, of allowing companies to once again have a benefit in providing health insurance to employees, of having more people covered, thereby taking some of the strain off the hospitals who have to provide emergency care even for those who can't pay will benefit us all. The only thing the insurance companies are afraid of is cutting into their fat wallets. They have behaved like pigs that wouldn't stop feeding at the trough even though they didn't really need more food, they kept gorging themselves until they have become unhealthily large, all the while getting more and more greedy.

As far as Medicare goes, do you have any idea how much is wasted through fraud every year? Perhaps if more people cared enough to be observant and proactive we could do more about cutting wasteful costs. If the seniors in our lives aren't able to go through their Medicare statements themselves to watch for overcharges, fraudulent charges double charges and the like then someone needs to be able to do that for them. If we pay more attention we can pay less money.
The fact that the medical profession is overwhelmingly for this reform means something. The medical associations, the hospital associations, doctors associations, even the Catholic hospitals are for this legislation. It seems the only ones who aren't are the republicans and the insurance companies who provide big contributions to them. A majority of people are for reform and when taken apart and asked about each portion of the legislation separately, a large majority support it. Too many people have been scared off by the lies and distortions that the republicans seem to be so good at doing.


youmustbejoking
Comment posted March 20, 2010 @ 1:56 am

The problem with your argument is that is all we have seen out of the tea party events. Look at the pictures. We have racist pictures on signs, we have signs that compare our president to Hitler, have him painted as the joker (in white face- and that from the republicans party) we see signs saying “the tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of tyrants” at events the president is appearing at, more death threats against this president than at any other time in history and a bunch of those threats come out of tea party events. If you don't want to be associated with people that are racist and threatening to our president than why aren't you tea partiers doing something about it? I don't see any people on your side trying to stop that behavior or telling them they are sending the wrong message. So just like your parents used to tell you, you get painted with the same brush as the people you hang out with.

This president inherited the economy, the wars, the massive unemployment and the responsibility of trying to keep it all from collapsing. He didn't create it, his predecessor did. Bush is the one that cut taxes and increased spending and didn't even include the cost of his two wars in the budget so that people would see how much deficit he was creating. This president has included it. So it makes the deficit bigger because it is honest and not like Bush's.

Reagan's trickle down economics have been proven not to work so Bush cutting taxes at the same time he increases spending, growing the largest government in history, was nothing but foolish. If you reduce income you have to reduce spending. Bush did the opposite. Now we have to deal with it. And you are also forgetting that Bush was the one who took executive power to new limits. President Obama stopped a bunch of the Bush policies right after taking office.


iknowpoverty
Comment posted March 20, 2010 @ 12:03 pm

Every liberal idea is painted as a mercy and humanitarian effort. If you are aginst it, you must have some flaw as a human. But when the rubber meets the road, there is usually no way to pay for these efforts. When the rubber meets the road, corporations look for greener pastures leaving stagnant economies in the wake with an eroding tax base left to fund these humanitarian efforts. History has proven time and time again liberal ideas are flawed.


youmustbejoking
Comment posted March 20, 2010 @ 8:05 pm

Chances are I know poverty even better than you do from a much closer view. Growing up, the only modern “convenience” we had was electricity. I know what it is like to hurt because of no medical or dental care, waking up to freezing cold because the fire went out and having to go out in all kinds of weather to cut more wood to keep a fire going to keep warm, cook, heat water. Shopping for back to school at Sally Ann's (Salvation Army), never having clothes or shoes that really fit and frequently not having much to eat at all, let alone anything that resembled a balanced diet. So I know poverty well first hand and have continued to work with very low income issues in my adult life. I know that no matter how little we had, we always had enough to share with others. Back then there was little assistance and my father didn't take any that was available. Though I think if the help would have been there, perhaps I could have kept all my own teeth and maybe some of the medical challenges I face today would not be as steep.

I have no problem with helping others through taxes so we can have programs that help those who need it. I believe in the Golden Rule- “do unto others as you would have them do unto you”. I know many hard working people who can't see a doctor because they have no insurance or extra dollars for medical or medicine. I know people who work more than one job and have little time with kids because they work so much, but that is just to pay the ever increasing cost of living- housing, utilities and food. And when you live in places that don't have public transportation and must maintain a car, by law, you must maintain insurance. People don't seem to have a problem with that. Forced to buy insurance. And not only that, the insurance companies that provide it are allowed to charge you for mandatory insurance based on your credit. Where are the screams for that? I don't recall my credit driving my car- I'm pretty sure I'm the one behind the wheel. It makes it very hard for some people to maintain the ability to work. Where are the tea partiers? Why don't they think that is unfair? Me thinks the protests are out of balance with reality. And we can afford it. Cut CEOs salaries in half- they would still be very rich and we could have more money for helping fund insurance.


youmustbejoking
Comment posted March 21, 2010 @ 8:37 am

After what was demonstrated Saturday in Washington DC, where the worst of the worst came out to yell the n-word and other hateful terms at elected Congressmen and women, to spit at them and use some of the most offensive language imaginable. These are despicable individuals that I don't claim as part of even the species as I am. They demonstrated they are so far below good and decent people they don't deserve to live here. They are trash, snake bellies, dogs vomit. An embarrassment to the human race. So if you tea partiers don't want to be tarred with the same brush as those scum than you better make sure you know who is using the name because they claimed to be tea partiers.


iknowpoverty
Comment posted March 21, 2010 @ 12:36 pm

Again you miss the point, this is not a debate about who had it rougher growing up, but once you make the environment unfriendly to business, who employs. Increase taxes, reduce jobs…as simple as that. You cannot dispute this. Look at the stagnant economies of Europe, particularly Spain, Greece, and France. Look at the old Soviet Union and sattelite states. It's not a matter of being selfish, but just simple economic principles. Stop painting business as the enemy than asking them to create jobs.


youmustbejoking
Comment posted March 21, 2010 @ 8:06 pm

When you use a name like “I know poverty”, precisely what do you expect? You are the one injecting your “knowledge” into the mix by signing in under that moniker. By telling you I know what real poverty is like, poverty that most people don't even realize exists in these United States, I am replying to your choice of a screen name, which is probably not a real good one if you don't want to get called on it. What do you expect will happen?

I also know what the very real effects of poverty in the here and now. I know if we don't do something to help people right now, here in this country, we will see more and more the affects of having our own third world country within our borders. We should never have the kind of suffering we have here- especially for people who do work hard and get virtually nothing in return.

Please tell me, how are tax credits for employing people and credits for providing insurance and lower insurance rates unfriendly to business? The only businesses that might be feeling some heat right now are the insurance companies who have made obscene profits on the lives and deaths of their insured and those “:too big too fail” companies who took taxpayer dollars (under Bush) and won't open up and make loans to the people who saved their asses.

It is a proven fact that employees with access to health care stay healthier
and more productive, which is why most businesses, even small ones, always want(ed) to provide benefits. The problem has come from companies having to pay so much more for the coverage they can't afford to do it. Reining in the insurance companies a lot will help employers to be able to provide that benefit. How is that unfriendly to business?

The facts are that this health care reform is way past due and this country has needed to do something about the health care and insurance for a very long time. As someone who had to go without health insurance because the option for coverage was was way too much money, I know how bad it can be. I have long term, permanent, medical complications because after I was in a car wreck and the medical part of my auto insurance ran out I could receive no care from anyone. The hospital said I needed to see a specialist, the specialist wouldn't see me because I couldn't pay up front and the regular MD wouldn't treat me because they said I needed a specialist. So when you have several crushed vertebrae in your back that receives no treatment- you have problems. When you have a shattered arm bone with no cast and no surgery, you have a problem. I normally wouldn't wish on anyone the pain and long term problems I experience as a result. However, I am at a point that I do wish some people could feel the pain I felt with no help. I wish they could experience what I and many others, have gone through without access to health care. I know it must change if this country is going to continue to be a great country. We cannot have the citizenry be hurting so much and remain a country to hold up as one to emulate. It must change now.


iknowpoverty
Comment posted March 21, 2010 @ 11:06 pm

Show me any nation or even State that has offered Universal Health Care and demonstrated job growth. Please show me at least one. The problem is jobs, when jobs are available benefits will come.


ellid
Comment posted March 23, 2010 @ 3:35 pm

*applause*

Nicely put.


youmustbejoking
Comment posted March 23, 2010 @ 6:35 pm

Frankly, I don't give a damn about any other country and what they have done. This is the United States of America. We can and do set the standards. It isn't about other countries – it is about us. We the people. Us. The U.S. We are the leader of the free world. We are the standard bearer not the follower. Tell me that you think Americans are incapable of bouncing back from this economic downfall because we are going to have health care coverage now. Because we can have employees with better health, more productive employees. I don't see this as a downfall for America or American business. I see this as a step in the right direction to apply equity to more citizens of this great country. People who have worked hard and played by the rules and still got the shaft. This is the country it is because of the people that inhabit it. Hopefully, you can be counted on to be one of the “yes we can's” and not the kind that pulls the blankets over your head.


iknowpoverty
Comment posted March 23, 2010 @ 10:51 pm

You rhetoric is predictable. Again I ask how long can we the United States continue to borrow money from China and other nations. Investment dollars create job, without jobs who funds your programs. America is America because we did not follow the rest of the world into Socialism, health care is just the beginning. Please explain to me how you would stimulate economic growth by taxing industries and demoning corporations. Please try and give a logical answer w/o rhetoric. I don't doubt your patriotism or work ethic, but just explain to me how taxing creates jobs.


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Comment posted July 3, 2010 @ 3:16 am

Go ahead, call me a greedy racist. Just keep ignoring the Washington spending and power grabs. Follow along like nice little compliant sheep and keep telling yourself that everything is fine. I'm sure it will all work out just fine for you.


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Comment posted July 25, 2010 @ 8:02 am

NO MATTER WHAT REASON you give for using troops, whether spreading democracy, homeland security, revenge on Bin Laden, no matter what, if you use troops and guns to “accomplish” some goal all you do is kill enemies and make enemies.

The military no matter how strong, loyal or efficient they are are not the tool to change the hearts and minds of a people unless you want them to learn to hate the US..

Those that do not learn from history ….


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