Court to Orly Taitz: Pay Your $20,000 Sanction

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Only in the tiny nerve clusters that Borderraven, Naturalizedcitizen, Gunny/Gummy/KitKat/Red/Asshole/BillyBob, and their ilk refer to as their brains.

I love this country!!!

Orly will explode, not just because she lost, but because the 11th Circuit gives her the back of its hand in — count them — eight lines of text, six of which are devoted to describing Orly's appeal. That is how a busy appellate court deals with teh crazy.

Epic fail. One for the ages.

(Barely) shorter 11th Circuit: “See Orly. See Orly pay. Pay, Orly, Pay.”

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This was posted on Orly's site

I also need computer specialists to trace the IP addresses and names of all the scum posting garbage about me on the Marxist garbage blogs, such as Politijab, Politico, Huffington Post, Washington Independent and a few others. I need to put together a RICO complaint naming all of them.

Gotta love Orly, for her consistency if for nothing else. Every defendant except the usurper Obama, has a title appended :)

I never noticed that! You are right — she does the same thing in the caption to her Quo Warranto action: http://www.scribd.com/doc/28080292/Orly-Taitz-R…

Bwwwwwwhahahahahaha! Guess signing her fellow Taft Law Skool alum, Jonathan Harris Levy, didn't help much. I hope his is as embarrassed by this as he should be, but I suspect they will file a Motion to Recuse the 11th Circuit panel now for treason.

Actually, this decision goes a considerable way down the path to declaring Taitz a “vexatious litigant” who is “venue shopping”. It's unlikely that any judge will be patient with her in the future if those labels tend to stick.

Flow Chart Explaining the 14th Amendment and Natural Born Citizen

http://www.scribd.com/doc/28422369/USCitizen-14…

ellid, If I were you. holding a college degree, in English and represented by a publisher, when you are a lazy reader incapable of comprehending Wong Kim Ark, was affirmed a citizen by SCOTUS, not NBC as you say. But, analysis of the 14th Amendment proves Ark an alien.

Will these computer specialists be compensated in the same manner in which Orly compensated Charles Lincoln?

In other words, you think you are right, and the Supreme Court of the United States is wrong. Isn't that special.

Gene, Gene, Gene, nobody cares about your stupid links. Trying to distract from the fact Orly's 20K sanctions got upheld? It's not working. Mental pivoting too hard?

I believe ellid was referencing the 'grasping at straws' school of jurisprudence.
Thank you for confirming ellid's analysis.

Maybe she can find someone to clean the malware off her site and to keep it off.

It's funny, I bet all the malware is from Russia with love.

Border is very special, if you know what I mean.

You. Really, Have. Some issues with. You, r. Punctuation. ..

And so thoughtful of you to provide your ex-purt consti-two-shu-nul analysis for everyone. You fail at it but you gave it a shot anyway – good for you!

Thanks for bringing us the “highlights” — I don't want to risk my computer by going to her site!

As a kid you were the one who always tried to win by changing the rules werentcha – “I meant we were supposed to run to THIS wall, you know the one I am standing beside…not that one over there that you ran to…”.

Shorter Borderraving: “I noes moar then the Spream coart. Luuk, I drue a picher!”

… not only is it factually incorrect, but your flowchart is logically incorrect. It doesn't contemplate all the appropriate steps. It'd get an F in any community college flowcharting class. Geeze.

HAHAHAHAHA. Where did you get your kollege degree in Englush from, Taft Skool of mail order degrees for basement dwellers? Jesus, you cannot even write a proper sentence, but you expect us to think you can understand a SCOTUS opinion? HAHAHAHAHA. Thanks for the laughs.

I suppose we're seeing the beginning of the end for Orly Taintz (no, that's NOT a typo).
Her “quest” is fizzling and the followers can't accept that they have no more vig in regards to the Constitution. Everyone else has accepted that Obama is legally elected as President, including the courts, but hey, the Moldavian Shrew won't stop there. To her own personal and “professional” peril.

I wonder what's next. She keeps pulling ridiculous nonsense out of her a**, and gets stomped for it. Repeatedly. Her followers are still stuck on the 14th Amendment. Good try, folks, but it's done. If orly had more than a degree you can get for sending in cereal boxtops and a couple of bucks, it might have been different, but the damage has been done. By her own hand, no less.

But look at it this way, “UFO Hunters” is still looking for grays……

Your flowchart is completely wrong, but I had a great time looking at the little rectangles and arrows!

Gerry. Maybe you can send Orly a few hundred dollars to help her pay her sanction? Then you will feel a little better.

It's hard to tell if she wants to file RICO against the bloggers or against the people that comment. Regardless, she'd have one hell of a time getting a hold of the logs for the websites if she wants to go after the commenters. Isn't it funny how she tends to want to run the United States as if it were the old USSR? Must be genetic.

Gerry. Having to log back in with your Minuteman account to give yourself a vote?

You musta got manure for brains. I ain't never seen anyone so sh*t all stupid as you when it comes to interpreting the law. Maybe you should get your camcorder and go out to record little girls in their swimsuits. I'm willing to bet you that you upload them to your computer and try to find your dick under the rolls of fat so you can wank of to them.

Move on perv. You can't 'educate' any of us with your 5th grade diploma.

What, haven't you put this on Scribd.com alongside your silly little “timeline”?

*makes shooing motion*

Go take a diversity training course and leave the adults alone.

Points for being correct: 0
Points for not using a fat pink crayon: 1

Did you read the filing she made to the Supreme Court? The 144 total pages where she talks about the 8 or 9 SC justices who had ex parte communications with the defendant, President Obama? I happened on it at Scribed after I read her response.

Oh dear. I better slap a homestead declaration on my house before she figures out where I live and how I've been such an evil, evil, evil person.

BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!

Gerry, old cock, you can barely READ, let alone understand legal language. Why don't you do something useful, like go to Haiti and help rebuild Port-au-Prince? I'm sure an electrician would be welcome.

ROFLMFAO!!!!!!

He is a Speshul Snoflak, all right…excuse, “alright,” in Borderraven-speak.

She's currently running for Secretary of State in California. She has also filed a Quo Warranto suit in DC and a reply motion in it that will almost certainly see her sanctioned in that case too.

The fun will continue for many months yet

That needs a LOLcat. Really.

Notice that I'm the one he always goes after by name? Way to prove you're not a misogynist! *wild applause*

Since we have such a legal expert in our midst, what are the laws protecting underage girls from obese sexual predators living off government pensions?

What did she file with the Supreme Court, and when? And how did she manage to file 144 pages? The Supreme Court's rules include limits on the number of words in filings. Let's just say that 144 pages would be in excess of the limits.

And in other birfer news:

Cuccinelli backs off birther statements
By Eric Zimmermann – 03/15/10 05:17 PM ET
Virginia Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli (R) issued a statement this afternoon clarifying remarks he made describing how to legally challenge President Obama's citizenship.

This morning, audio surfaced of Cuccinelli telling a supporter how to successfully take Obama to court on the issue, but Cuccinelli now says he's confident Obama is a citizen.

“I absolutely believe that President Obama was born in the United States,” he said in a statement. I don't buy into the claims that he wasn't. On the recording, I was asked a hypothetical legal question, and I gave a hypothetical legal answer in response…As I said previously, this issue was not a part of my campaign, and it is not part of what I am doing now as attorney general.”

The Virginia Republican had been quoted telling a supporter how to successfully challenge Obama's legitimacy to be president.

“It will get tested in my view when someone–when [Obama] signs a law, and someone is convicted of violating it and one of their defenses will be it is not a law because someone qualified to be President didn’t sign it,” Cuccinelli said.

He even suggested it was “not beyond the realm of possibility” that someone could provide proof that Obama was born in Kenya.

Since we have such a legal expert in our midst, what are the laws protecting underage girls from obese sexual predators living off government pensions?

Yes, please do enlighten us! After all, it's our responsibility to learn and yours to teach, as you so kindly pointed out weeks ago.

I found it on scribed when I went to read the response. It is copies of all her other stuff but it had SCOTUS on it and some gibberish about sending copies of everything to everybody and their brother. I couldn't stay with the entire thing- I have a life -evidently hers is filing all these papers. Talk about wasting trees.
Doc 15-2 – Taitz v Obama, DCDC 1-10-cv-00151, Copy of Application for Stay in Lightfoot v Bowen

I tried to open the link I posted on Scribed and it wouldn't open the entire thing. It opened the other day and I read bits and pieces. Hope you have better luck getting it to open up.

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I knew i should have bounced my anti-birther posts off of servers around the world. We are going to be outed as paid Obama bloggers. Since we are employed by the government we should be able to ger Eric Holder to defend us.

*In Simon Cowell voice*

“That was just dreadful. Absolutely dreadful.”

Wow!

Just read it. That is the ramblings of a world-class paranoiac. In every filing she has submitted, she can't get above feelings of persecution (of course, if she wasn't a forger, and a lousy one at that, it wouldn't be an issue).

Now I know why her hair looks the way it does!

Poor California!

I know O.C. is a hotbed of nutbaggery, but to inflict herself on the rest of the state?

Yah, isn't that something? Somewhere on the last birfer blog, someone claimed that more and more are jumping on the crazy train. Considering how few we see these days, Orly's paranoia has obviously hit the wall.

Someone probably “advised” Cuccinelli of the advantages of being a politician AND a birfer.

The first natural born citizens were the first children born of the first pledged citizens of the new nation.

Congressman & abolitionist , John A. Bingham, considered the architect of the Fourteenth Amendment said this concerning the Civil Rights Act of 1866:
“I find no fault with the introductory clause, which is simply declaratory of what is written in the Constitution, that every human being BORN within the jurisdiction of the United States OF PARENTS NOT OWING ALLEGIANCE TO ANY FOREIGN SOVEREIGNTY IS, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen..” John A. Bingham, (R-Ohio) US Congressman, March 9, 1866 (MY CAPS)

It is more than obvious, at this point, that the overwhelming majority of? Americans are operating/proceeding under the impression that a 'natural born citizen' of the United States is one who simply may have entered the world, by happenstance, on this nation's soil. Nothing could be further from the truth. In fact, the? American? Revolution was carried out, in an effort to shed such feudalistic, tyrannical, 'barbaric' & regressive notions.
Being born within the territorial limits may be part of the equation but it is secondary. Of primacy, is the issue- TO WHOM- an individual in question was born. This is the Law of Nature The very foundation upon which the American “experiment” was constructed.

Please explain why we care about the ramblings of a bigot and a coward.

Just kidding. It's more than obvious that we the people think you're an idiot.

Stop posting while drunk. You're a bigot and an idiot.

Your grasp of American history is exceeded only by your knowledge of biology, which is approximately at the level of a first year McGuffey's Reader.

Try again.

And John Bingham's words had the force of law when?

No, they were the first children born in the United States after the Revolution. Get your facts straight, troll.

Totally wrong. Under the U.S. Constitution, any child born in this country is a citizens of the country by birthright (i.e. natural born). Thus a child born in a shotgun shack in a migrant camp at a California avocado orchard to two illegal aliens has just as much right to grow up to be president as does a white, anglo child born in Salem Massachusetts to parents who can trace their ancestry back to the pilgrims.

The New Jersey Nets have a better chance of winning the NBA championship then Orly has of defeating Debra Bowen.

Well, since everyone who was a citizen of the colonies at that time, (i.e. a former british subject) was automaticly an American citizen at the adoption of the concstituiton, every baby born was then an American citizen. (excluding, of course, all nonwhites, which is the criteria that tom wants to go back to).

“II. The fundamental principle of the common law with regard to English nationality was birth within the allegiance, also called “ligealty,” “obedience,” “faith,” or “power” of the King. The principle embraced all persons born within the King's allegiance and subject to his protection. Such allegiance and protection were mutual — as expressed in the maxim protectio trahit subjectionem, et subjectio protectionem — and were not restricted to natural-born subjects and naturalized subjects, or to those who had taken an oath of allegiance, but were predicable of aliens in amity so long as they were within the kingdom. Children, born in England, of such aliens were therefore natural-born subjects. But the children, born within the realm, of foreign ambassadors, or the children of alien enemies, born during and within their hostile occupation of part of the King's dominions, were not natural-born subjects because not born within the allegiance, the obedience, or the power, or, as would be said at this day, within the jurisdiction, of the King.”

US vs. Wong Kim Ark 1898

So, there you see how the court views allegiance. Glad to clear that up for you.

Very true. Thanks for the clarification.

I guess she thinks her reputation is still “white as the driven snow”.

She's already a national disgrace, and her followers just can't see that the train wreck is STILL ongoing.

Treating all people born in this country as citizens is not barbaric. It is enlightened and far-seeing, and has created a nation with a vibrant and diverse population of citizens from whom we can draw our leadership.
What's barbaric is demanding some kind of pedigree of the children born in the United States, as if people were poodles. The idea that this agricutural view of human beings would represent some kind of advance in civilization is ridiculous on its face.

But that's the whole birther movement: ridiculous on its face.

…..and, also in Simon's voice: Pure and utter rubbish!!!

According to your flowchart, Herbert Hoover could not have been president. Neither could Woodrow Wilson or Barack Obama.

A sane person would conclude that your flowchart is mistaken, since all of these people obviously have been inaugurated president.

Maybe you'll have better luck with your flowchart showing that the civil war didn't happen.

I think that might be difficult; she would first have to gain access to the logs of all these “Marxist garbage” blogs, assuming the logs exist. But then how to tie each IP to a person? Many people use broadband services with dynamically assigned IPs, and the user behind an IP is going to require further legal saber-rattling at companies like Verizon and AOL Time-Warner.

It isn't inconceivable that Verizon would dump their customer's identities at the threat of a lawsuit, but they tend to buckle under pressure from huge entities like the recording and motion picture industries, who have arguable legal justifications for acquiring that information. They're probably not going to hand it to some crazy lady who wants to sue the Internet for laughing at her.

You have no idea what you are talking about.

The law of citizenship in the United States has always been based on English common law. We did not “shed” all of that with the Revolution. If you had any knowledge of history, language and law, you would know how much we took directly from England:

(1) Obviously, we kept the English language (not French, the language of de Vattel, the Swiss writer birfers seem to love but know nothing about).

(2) We kept the English laws of property, trusts, and inheritance, including some truly arcane rules, such as “the rule in Shelley's case,” a case decided in an English court in 1581, and the “rule against perpetuities.” When we talk about “owning fee title” to land, we are using English common law.

(2) We kept the English common law of torts. Ever wanted to sue someone for “trespass” on your property? Ever been in a car accident, and sued or been sued for “negligence”? Those are tort law concepts we inherited from Britain.

(3) We kept the English rules of citizenship. Read, if you can, the majority opinion in United States v. Wong Kim Ark. It explains quite nicely how our rules of citizenship are based on the common law of Britain. It also explains that the term “natural born citizen” simply adapts (for a republic) the term “natural born subject” used in Great Britain and the colonies, and which simply meant a person born within the dominion of the King, regardless of the citizenship of that person's parents (with two exceptions — children born to foreign ambassadors, and children born to foreign occupiers, both of which owed their allegiance to a different sovereign).

Spend some time reading what gets posted here before you embarrass yourself by publicly proclaiming your ignorance.

Don't forget Chester A. Arthur.

She's saving that for her oral arguments.

In my opinion this is what the small portions of the republican party of “birthers, baggers and blowhards” have brought you. They are good at “Follow the Leader” of their dullard leaders, they listen to Beck, Hedgecock, Hannity, O’Reilly, Rush and Savage and the rest of the Blowhards. Are you surprise at what they do when you know what they think? The world is complicated and most republicans (Hamiliton, Lincoln, Roosevelt) believe that we should use government a little to increase social mobility, now its about dancing around the claim of government is the problem. Although most republicans are trying to distant themselves from this fringe they have a long way to go. And as they said in WACO “We Ain’t Coming Out”.

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The law of citizenship in the United States has always been based on English common law. We did not “shed” all of that with the Revolution. If you had any knowledge of history, language and law, you would know how much we took directly from England: