Palin: Growing Up, I ‘Hustled Over the Border’ For Health Care

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Monday, March 08, 2010 at 11:03 am

Medicine Hat News reports on a speech Sarah Palin gave in Calgary (tickets as low as $150), where a folksy monologue took a shocking turn — an admission about how her family once received health care.

We used to hustle over the border for health care we received in Canada. And I think now, isn’t that ironic.

Palin, born in Idaho, lived in and around Wasilla, Alaska for most of her life. The nearest city in Canada, Whitehorse, is a 15 hour drive away. Anchorage is only 45 minutes away. I definitely want to hear more about this.

UPDATE: I just checked my copy of “Going Rogue” and recall now that Palin spent the first few years of her life, up to age 6, in Skagway, a remote town in gold rush country only a few rough hours from Whitehorse. But it’s about as far from Skagway to Juneau, so the question remains why the family “hustled” to a country with, at the time, the beginnings of government-run health care.

UPDATE: The Calgary Herald has a fuller, slightly different version of the quote.

My first five years of life we spent in Skagway, Alaska, right there by Whitehorse. Believe it or not – this was in the ‘60s – we used to hustle on over the border for health care that we would receive in Whitehorse. I remember my brother, he burned his ankle in some little kid accident thing and my parents had to put him on a train and rush him over to Whitehorse and I think, isn’t that kind of ironic now. Zooming over the border, getting health care from Canada.

Via Will Bunch.

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Norm
Comment posted March 8, 2010 @ 5:02 pm

“Palin, born in Idaho…”

Really? How do we know that for certain? I, for one, have never seen Palin's birth certificate. Nor have I ever heard the name of the doctor who birthed her. Sandpoint is a tiny town, but it's just a couple of hours' drive from Vancouver or Calgary.

And now she ADMITS that her parents used to travel across the border for medical care? Palin-haters need not worry that she'll ever be President, because she was clearly born in Canada.


Chass
Comment posted March 8, 2010 @ 5:03 pm

Because there are only about 7 streets in Juneau and from what I hear it is pretty hard to get in and out of Juneau.


strangely_enough
Comment posted March 8, 2010 @ 5:11 pm

Palin-Care: move closer to Canada.


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ian cormac
Comment posted March 8, 2010 @ 6:06 pm

Is there anybody who bothers to read the transcript, it was when she lived in Skagway which is close to Canada, and it was her brother


Bilby
Comment posted March 8, 2010 @ 11:27 pm

“Canada had universal, federally funded healthcare in the 60s.”

No, it did not.


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Bilby
Comment posted March 8, 2010 @ 7:02 pm

In any case, the under 5 years old Palin should have known that Canadian health care would become a fixture of socialized medicine debates in the coming decades and therefore dissuaded her parents from seeking it.


sharoninflorida
Comment posted March 8, 2010 @ 7:09 pm

So her family was “hustling over to Canada…for healthcare”? Was that legal? Were all American's entitled to Canadian FREE healthcare? Wouldn't that be the same thing that the folks in Texas, New Mexico, Arizona and California now complain about — the “illegal (Hispanics)” crossing our borders to receive ILLEGAL healthcare? My, my that IS ironic! When Sarah hits AZ campaigning for her old buddy McCain, somebody needs to ask her about that.


ellid
Comment posted March 8, 2010 @ 7:10 pm

Regardless of how close she was to the Canadian border, or who in her family used it, the fact remains that her family took what they were not entitled to.


frank
Comment posted March 8, 2010 @ 7:29 pm

Canada may have had entirely private health care in the 60s. Not sure, just a word of warning.


mantis
Comment posted March 8, 2010 @ 7:39 pm

No, but it is quite interesting that her family had no problem taking advantage of evil socialist medicine across the border, as opposed to using The Best Healthcare In The World. That's kinda funny, donchaknow.


ian cormac
Comment posted March 8, 2010 @ 7:45 pm

They didn't institute in the provinces until 1972, anyways it wasn't a question of cost, it was access from where she lived


Karen Allen
Comment posted March 8, 2010 @ 7:48 pm

Whitehorse is in the Yukon, from Health Canada (http://tinyurl.com/yftmgc4)…

“1972 Yukon creates medical insurance plans with federal cost sharing, April 1.”

RETRACTO! Get your facts straight.


Mike
Comment posted March 8, 2010 @ 7:54 pm

The point that the distances are equally close is mind-numbingly stupid. You have to take a ferry to get from Skagway to Juneau, whereas a road connects Skagway and Whitehorse.


mantis
Comment posted March 8, 2010 @ 8:06 pm

Alaskans living in the coastal communities use ferries all the time. So much so that the Alaska Marine Highway was named an All American Road, the only marine-based “road” to have that title.

So what's so mind-numbingly stupid about pointing out that the two towns are the same distance away?


Rick
Comment posted March 8, 2010 @ 8:15 pm

Where does the article say that her family received Canadian health care for free? Just like many who come to the US from foreign lands for health care and pay for it, I presume her family did the same.


monkey99
Comment posted March 8, 2010 @ 8:15 pm

Now that she realizes healthcare reform will pass, why not stay in people's good graces, by “admitting” things now. Another “I was against it before I was for it” retraction.

No, this woman will never see the inside of the White House, except as a visitor, but that doesn't mean she can't hemorrhage her credibility all by herself. She can't maintain a position without reversing herself, or redefining something when it goes counter to what she may have said previously.

A bald-faced racist, liar, quitter, hypocrite and now shameless opportunist.
That she still has a following is beyond comprehension.


Mike
Comment posted March 8, 2010 @ 8:15 pm

Because they're roughly the same distance in MILES, not time. Taking a ferry (and if you actually look, I think you need to make a connection or two) would take considerably longer than driving or riding the train. The author's emphasis on the fact that Juneau is the same distance away as Whitehorse implies that access was equal, yet the Canadian hospital was chosen. That isn't the case.

Read the linked full quote. Her brother broke his ankle and they were taking him to the hospital.


Bilby
Comment posted March 8, 2010 @ 8:16 pm

http://tinyurl.com/yftmgc4

Yeah, what was her family thinking? She certainly is a hypocrite for not stopping them!


Bilby
Comment posted March 8, 2010 @ 8:21 pm

“Now that she realizes healthcare reform will pass..”

That bit of delusion is the perfect starting point for the rest of your…interesting post.


Rick
Comment posted March 8, 2010 @ 8:21 pm

Yes, Monkey99, at FIVE YEARS OF AGE, Sarah Palin was in charge of her parents, ran the State of Domestic Affairs at her home, and was therefore a shameless opportunist by receiving Health Care in Canada……..Oh, yeah, before Canada had free healthcare.


arapaho
Comment posted March 8, 2010 @ 8:25 pm

Juneau is not connected to any other part of AK by roads.

As the crow flies Juneau might be a bit closer to Skagway, but the only road leading out of Skagway pretty much directly connects to Whitehorse.

It's impossible to get to Juneau unless you have access to a plane or boat.


Bilby
Comment posted March 8, 2010 @ 8:37 pm

That this is even being discussed, and spreading among lefty blogs as we speak, is testament to profound PDS. I wonder if some participants regret jumping on this now.


ellid
Comment posted March 8, 2010 @ 8:38 pm

Canada had a national healthcare system in place by the time Sarah Palin was born, as thirty seconds' research on the Internet clearly shows. It was well established in all provinces and territories by the time she was five.

Wrong.


ellid
Comment posted March 8, 2010 @ 8:39 pm

She's a theocrat, a liar, can barely give a *prepared* speech without mangling English to the point of incomprehensibility, and has a 21% approval rating. I would say that her chances of making it to Washington in any capacity, let alone as President, are poor at best.


mantis
Comment posted March 8, 2010 @ 8:46 pm

Because they're roughly the same distance in MILES, not time.

Distance isn't measured in time.

Taking a ferry (and if you actually look, I think you need to make a connection or two) would take considerably longer than driving or riding the train.

Perhaps, depending on the weather conditions.

The author's emphasis on the fact that Juneau is the same distance away as Whitehorse implies that access was equal, yet the Canadian hospital was chosen.

No, it doesn't imply that. He notes that the distance is the same, and that the question remains why the Canadian hospital was chosen. You may have answered that question.

Read the linked full quote. Her brother broke his ankle and they were taking him to the hospital.

I did read the quote. It says her brother's ankle was burned, not broken.


mantis
Comment posted March 8, 2010 @ 8:47 pm

Again, no, that's not the point. Do learn to read.


Bilby
Comment posted March 8, 2010 @ 8:48 pm

Apr 4, 1972 – The Yukon is the last political unit in Canada to legislate a government health insurance scheme, and public opposition to the plan is rampant. http://tinyurl.com/y893hn6

Just so we can have that settled.


ellid
Comment posted March 8, 2010 @ 8:49 pm

Wrong. The self-same timeline you so kindly linked to also includes this:

“1960

Northwest Territories creates hospital insurance plan with federal cost sharing, April 1.

Yukon creates hospital insurance plan with federal cost sharing, July 1.”

Kindly give the all the facts next time, okay?


ellid
Comment posted March 8, 2010 @ 8:49 pm

See above.


ellid
Comment posted March 8, 2010 @ 8:51 pm

The hypocrisy comes in her decrying the system that aided her family when they crossed the border into another country for healthcare.


ellid
Comment posted March 8, 2010 @ 8:53 pm

From the Canada health care official web site:

“1960

Northwest Territories creates hospital insurance plan with federal cost sharing, April 1.

Yukon creates hospital insurance plan with federal cost sharing, July 1.”


ellid
Comment posted March 8, 2010 @ 8:53 pm

Canada had nationalized hospital insurance by the early 1960s. Wrong.


mantis
Comment posted March 8, 2010 @ 8:54 pm

Yeah, and if President Obama had lived in a different country, his political detractors would never have used that to claim all sorts of ludicrous shit about him (he's a foreigner, a communist, a Muslim, etc.). Oh wait, he did? And they did (and still do)?

Of course, if lefties point out the irony of the fact that Palin, who claims that healthcare reform is a socialist plot to kill granny, came from a family that availed itself of evil socialist healthcare in a foreign country when it was convenient for them, well they are just deranged! Totally unhinged!

Now if you'll excuse me, I need to go read more about Obama's secret plot to institute Sharia law and a communist government and turn us all into homosexuals.


ellid
Comment posted March 8, 2010 @ 8:55 pm

And if you scroll up that self-same page, it says the following:

“1960

Northwest Territories creates hospital insurance plan with federal cost sharing, April 1.

Yukon creates hospital insurance plan with federal cost sharing, July 1.”

They were headed to the hospital, which was part of the federal health system. Wrong.


ellid
Comment posted March 8, 2010 @ 8:55 pm

It's spreading over the Internet because it is yet more proof that Sarah Palin is a hypocrite and a liar.


Bilby
Comment posted March 8, 2010 @ 8:56 pm

So now, since that talking point has been shot down, it's not about her family taking advantage of socialist medicine, but doing what brown people from Mexico do?

Again, the bizarreness of this is that she was 5 years old.


Bilby
Comment posted March 8, 2010 @ 8:58 pm

“Distance isn't measured in time.”

If you were injured and needed to get to a hospital, would you rather go to one closer or one faster to reach?

This is really getting silly now.


Bilby
Comment posted March 8, 2010 @ 9:00 pm

Here ya go. http://tinyurl.com/y893hn6


Bilby
Comment posted March 8, 2010 @ 9:02 pm

“And if you scroll up that self-same page, it says the following:

“1960

Northwest Territories creates hospital insurance plan with federal cost sharing, April 1.

Yukon creates hospital insurance plan with federal cost sharing, July 1.”"

It does not. It's a newspaper article from April, 1972.


Bilby
Comment posted March 8, 2010 @ 9:03 pm

You've got it bad.


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Bilby
Comment posted March 8, 2010 @ 9:06 pm

The way you guys are behaving is rather unhinged. Besides being wrong on the facts, you don't see what's strange about you calling her a hypocrite for something her parents supposedly did.


mantis
Comment posted March 8, 2010 @ 9:07 pm

If you were injured and needed to get to a hospital, would you rather go to one closer or one faster to reach?

Of course I would choose the one faster to reach (but the fastest to reach hospital has not been conclusively established in this case). I wasn't disputing that, I was pointing out to Mike, who advised me to read more carefully, that distance isn't measured in units of time (duh), as what he wrote suggested. If people want to get nitpicky with me about reading carefully when I already am, I'm going to point out their sloppy reading and writing in turn.

But yes, again, I would choose the hospital I could get to the fastest, but then again I'm not worried that a universal health care system will kill me and my granny, so my choice may not be the same as those who are scared there's a red under their bed.


mantis
Comment posted March 8, 2010 @ 9:10 pm

I didn't call her a hypocrite, and I'm not wrong on the facts.

I did notice that she didn't have anything negative to say about Canada's health care, based on her family's experience. Hmmm.


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slightlymoreinformed
Comment posted March 8, 2010 @ 9:53 pm

Canada didn't have socialized medicine in the 60's, twits.


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slightlymoreinformed
Comment posted March 8, 2010 @ 9:57 pm

yes it has, twit. Juneau is hours farther away even today. This happened years ago when the time difference was even greater. Twit.


slightlymoreinformed
Comment posted March 8, 2010 @ 9:59 pm

Who said anything about free healthcare? They went to the closest big town to go to the hospital. In the early 60's. Twit.


slightlymoreinformed
Comment posted March 8, 2010 @ 10:00 pm

Who in the world claimed they got free healthcare in the 60'S? She said they drove to the nearest town to go to hospital. It happens to be in Canada. It also happens to require that you pay for services, since this happened in the 60's.


slightlymoreinformed
Comment posted March 8, 2010 @ 10:01 pm

Who claimed that? Nobody said they got free socialized healthcare. Twit.


Victoria Rose
Comment posted March 9, 2010 @ 3:10 am

Wow, you called him a “twit” twice. Very Mature. Oh, and you guys should really just leave Bilby alone, he’s probably sitting in his mom’s basement j*acking off to all the attention.


mantis
Comment posted March 8, 2010 @ 10:23 pm

Canada instituted the Hospital Insurance and Diagnostic Services Act, which provided federal hospital insurance funding, in 1958. All ten provinces had adopted universal, federally funded health care under this act by 1961.

Canada instituted the Canada Assistance Plan and Medical Care Act, which provided federal funding for individual medical insurance (expanding coverage to all physicians, not just hospitals), in 1966.

But please, share more of your knowledge of Canada's health care system.


Bilby
Comment posted March 8, 2010 @ 10:26 pm

The Yukon is not a province of Canada. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Provinces_and_terr…


mantis
Comment posted March 8, 2010 @ 10:32 pm

Who in the world claimed they got free healthcare in the 60'S?

I don't know, who? I didn't claim that. They certainly availed themselves of a socialist healthcare system though, even if they did pay for the care. Donchaknow socialist healthcare kills your granny?

She said they drove to the nearest town to go to hospital.

Actually, she said they took a train.

It also happens to require that you pay for services, since this happened in the 60's.

They may have had to pay, because they were not Canadian, not because it was the 60s. Canada had universal, federally funded healthcare in the 60s.


MCLepus
Comment posted March 8, 2010 @ 10:33 pm

Try this direct link to Canada's Health Care Timeline:
http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/hcs-sss/pubs/system-regi…

“Health Canada”
1959

Ontario, New Brunswick and Nova Scotia create hospital insurance plans with federal cost sharing, January 1.

Prince Edward Island creates hospital insurance plan with federal cost sharing, October 1.

1960

Northwest Territories creates hospital insurance plan with federal cost sharing, April 1.

Yukon creates hospital insurance plan with federal cost sharing, July 1.

1961

Québec creates hospital insurance plan with federal cost sharing, January 1.


mantis
Comment posted March 8, 2010 @ 10:34 pm

True, but Yukon instituted the federal hospital insurance plan in 1960.


Bilby
Comment posted March 8, 2010 @ 10:40 pm

From your post: “All ten provinces had adopted universal, federally funded health care under this act by 1961. “

All ten provinces. The program wasn't implemented in Yukon until 1972. http://tinyurl.com/y893hn6


Bilby
Comment posted March 8, 2010 @ 10:41 pm

Apparently that timeline is wrong.


mantis
Comment posted March 8, 2010 @ 10:45 pm

From your post: “All ten provinces had adopted universal, federally funded health care under this act by 1961. “

Yes, I know. I wrote it. That doesn't mean that the territories hadn't adopted it.

All ten provinces. The program wasn't implemented in Yukon until 1972. http://tinyurl.com/y893hn6</i>

Wrong.

Yukon creates hospital insurance plan with federal cost sharing, July 1.

You're referring to the medical insurance plans, which extended coverage from hospitals to all physicians. Yukon adopted that in 1972.


Jennifer
Comment posted March 8, 2010 @ 10:46 pm

Here's the Canadian Government website. The Yukon hospital plan was created in 1960.

http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/hcs-sss/pubs/system-regi…


mantis
Comment posted March 8, 2010 @ 10:47 pm

No, you are wrong. That timeline is on the Canadian Health Care website. Or are you claiming the Canadian government doesn't know the history of its own healthcare system?


robertslaven
Comment posted March 8, 2010 @ 10:47 pm

Skagway ain't that far to Juneau as the crow flies, but there's a slight lack of highways connecting the two Alaskan cities. There is a ferry system, but I suspect it takes a lot longer to get from Skagway to Juneau on the ferry than it does to get from Skagway to Whitehorse on the highway.


mantis
Comment posted March 8, 2010 @ 10:50 pm

Don't bother. Bilby's now claiming the Canadian government website is wrong about the history of its own healthcare system. Wingnuts will say anything.


Bilby
Comment posted March 8, 2010 @ 10:50 pm

Oh, wait. I see there's a distinction between “hospital insurance plan” and “medical insurance plan”.


Jennifer
Comment posted March 8, 2010 @ 10:51 pm

Aside from the historical nuances of Canada and socialized health care, why did Sarah Palin tell the story two ways: in one story they went to Juneau for her brother's burned foot and in another story she said they went to Whitehorse in Canada.

Let's not get distracted by that.


Bilby
Comment posted March 8, 2010 @ 10:54 pm

So, is the Canadian government website right or wrong when it lists 1972 as the year Yukon implemented the “medical insurance plan”?

Also, websites can have accurate information listed.


Jennifer
Comment posted March 8, 2010 @ 10:54 pm

Thanks for the warning. I wouldn't want to waste too much time on someone who misses the big picture that she lied.

And let's put it this way: if there is this much confusion about it on here, I'm guessing Sarah Palin was thinking the health system in Canada was socialized or why else would it be ironic that they hustled over there for health care? Then again, she probably doesn't know the meaning of ironic.


Bilby
Comment posted March 8, 2010 @ 10:54 pm

Or INaccurate, as the case my be. :)


Bilby
Comment posted March 8, 2010 @ 10:56 pm

She said it was ironic because people went there from here for health care instead of the other way around. What did she lie about?


Jennifer
Comment posted March 8, 2010 @ 11:01 pm

She lied about where her brother went for his burned foot. She told the story twice and in one version he was taken to Juneau and in another version he was taken to Whitehorse.

“Palin drew from her Skagway past to illustrate her point. Her brother burned his foot badly jumping through a fire, and her mother had to take him down to Juneau on the ferry to the hospital. 'All these years later, that’s still what people have to rely on here in some instances,' she said.”
http://www.skagwaynews.com/051107GovPalinvisit….

Now THAT'S ironic. Kid burned his foot twice while living in Skagway. Hmmm.

Show me stats on how many people from Canada go to the US for health care and then we'll see how ironic that is. There isn't the big flood of Canadians going to the US for health care that some people think. I think the few cases have been highlighted as if there's a mass exodus.


Jennifer
Comment posted March 8, 2010 @ 11:04 pm

They are two different plans.


Jennifer
Comment posted March 8, 2010 @ 11:12 pm

Yes. Not all medical care is given at hospitals. The medical care plan was for regular doctor's appointments. The hospital plan would have been for something like, say, oh, I don't know, a burned foot for example.


Bilby
Comment posted March 8, 2010 @ 11:18 pm

Actually, according to the timeline, it wasn't until 1984 that socialized medicine in Canada was fully implemented.


Bilby
Comment posted March 8, 2010 @ 11:19 pm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada_Health_Act


Jennifer
Comment posted March 8, 2010 @ 11:27 pm

Oh, there's this site, too: http://www.hougengroup.com/yukonHistory/facts_y…

That says:

• April 14, 1960 The territorial council passes legislation according to which all Yukon residents will under the federal hospital insurance plan, beginning July 1st, 1960.


elcy
Comment posted March 8, 2010 @ 11:35 pm

I wouldn't call her a hypocrite for something her parents did when she was a small child. I call her a hypocrite because she bashes Canada's socialized medical care system NOW.
She's even more of a hypocrite for opposing the HCR proposals, when the Palin family's availing itself of socialized medical care through the IHS, because of her husband Todd's native heritage.


Bilby
Comment posted March 8, 2010 @ 11:45 pm

“1984

The Canada Health Act, federal, passes (Royal Assent April 17), combines hospital and medical acts; sets conditions and criteria on portability, accessibility, universality, comprehensiveness, public administration; bans user fees and extra billing.

Provincial/territorial reciprocal billing agreement for out-patient hospital services provided out-of province/ territory.”

Of course this is still all beside the point. Her family paid for the treatment, and she was 5 years old. Of course the more this is discussed the more the PDS sufferers let themselves be known.


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bellis
Comment posted March 8, 2010 @ 11:59 pm

Was it the Canadian Premier that just got heart surgery in Florida a week or so ago. Does that count as a statistic?


Melvo
Comment posted March 9, 2010 @ 12:31 am

Most of you are wrong as not in 1960, 1984 or the present has Canada ever had socialized medicine. Great Britain does but not Canada. Canada has private doctors, hospitals and pharmacies the same as the US but it does have single payer insurance programs run by the provinces but no socialized medicine.


Jennifer
Comment posted March 9, 2010 @ 12:38 am

That's one of the “few cases” I referred to.

Gimme stats, not one-offs that have been all over Fox News.


Jennifer
Comment posted March 9, 2010 @ 12:40 am

Again, she lied about the story. Was it Juneau or Whitehorse?

We can debate if the family paid or if it was socialized health care or how was she. She told the story in two different places and changed the story to have taken place depending where she told the story.


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Janey
Comment posted March 9, 2010 @ 2:31 am

Oh my god. Just when I thought liberals couldn't sink any lower, they dredge up this bullshit? This is ridiculous! SHE WAS **SIX YEARS OLD** for pete's sake! Her PARENTS brought her across the border! But don't let simple logistics get in the way of a good liberal “duurrr hurf durf Sarah Palin” headline, huh? Looking at the maps, Whitehorse is the most convenient place for medical treatment. We do that with Canada, ya know. We share stuff. guess what happens if you're in a car wreck in Windsor, Canada? You wind up in Detroit, MI at the Henry Ford Hospital (trauma center) – yes, them Canadians will wind up in one of our 'murican hospitals.


Palin is hot
Comment posted March 9, 2010 @ 2:42 am

The ferry ride from Skagway to Juneau is approximately 6 1/2 hours, but you could have to wait up to two days to catch the next boat. That's a long time to wait for an ER visit. I can only imagine service was spottier back in the 60s, but I could be wrong. The drive from Skagway to Whitehorse is about 2 hours, maybe less if you are driving with an injured child you are trying to get to a hospital. The train is no longer an option between Skagway and Whitehorse as it once was. The train only goes as far as Bennett Lake, BC these days. Though I'm not Palin fan, I can empathize with parents who make quick and practical decisions about medical care for their kids not thinking of any future political consequences. I also imagine that the details of family history viewed through the eyes of a child can become fuzzy over the intervening decades (e.g. whether a foot was burned, broken, sprained, etc.).


chascates
Comment posted March 9, 2010 @ 3:36 am

“My first five years of life we spent in Skagway, Alaska, right there by Whitehorse.”

Hasn't she stated before that her first two years were spent in Sandpoint, Idaho?


Herrence Meritocracy
Comment posted March 9, 2010 @ 3:38 am

Hmm, and according to the official website of the White Pass & Yukon Route the train from Skagway to Whitehorse today (not in the 1960s) takes a minimum of 3 1/2 hours. Both are “long times to wait for an ER visit.” And either could probably suffice for a “burned foot” so long as it received some first aid. No one would blame parents for making a split decision to get their child the best medical care available. I do, however, blame Sarah Palin for specifically trying to prevent that choice from becoming a viable one for all Americans through health care reform, especially considering her personal experience with federally-mandated universal insurance in Canada and the intellectually dishonest way in which she interjected herself into the national healthcare debate.

Interesting also that you are “not Palin fan” (sic) but your chosen screenname is “Palin is hot”…


Palin is hot (but an airhead)
Comment posted March 9, 2010 @ 3:59 am

The difference in railroad today is that it is set up for tourists rather than for practical transportation. There are multiple stops for long periods of time to walk around and take in the scenery. You also must transfer to a bus at Carcross and most people that use this as a mode of transit are in it for the experience rather than the efficiency. The train back in the day was more definitely geared to get you there in a more timely manner, though I'm not sure how long it took.
Ditto on the healthcare criticism. I know plenty of Canadians and live within an hour's drive of the border myself. People seem to get what they need. I wonder why there is a need to shoot this option down without engaging in any meaningful discussion. Maybe this isn't the best option for us, but it's worth serious consideration. We have too many uninsure and we are paying for their healthcare right now (whether we like it or not) through pricey ER visits.

And yes, though it is true that I am no Palin fan and I would never in a million years vote for her, she is a cutey!


Anonymous
Comment posted March 9, 2010 @ 11:04 am

Because it was SIX HOURS to Juneau and only TWO HOURS to Whitehorse.


fuzzybill
Comment posted March 9, 2010 @ 6:41 am

American citizens can have Canadian Healthcare if they pay for it

Here in Canada,in the past few weeks, two person died due to our crap public health care:
The first one died while waiting several MONTHS for a heart surgery.
Link: http://www.cbc.ca/health/story/2010/03/08/mtl-q…

The other one died in the corridor of an overcrowded emergency.
Link (French) http://canoe.com/infos/quebeccanada/archives/20…

Yes, Free healtcare has a cost…huge waiting lists and poor service


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Ian
Comment posted March 9, 2010 @ 11:13 am

How dare you! Share? Share? For shame!

Also, I don't know, but I'm pretty sure a city the size of Windsor has a hospital.


akw
Comment posted March 9, 2010 @ 11:19 am

OMG, you people are certifiably NUTS. So, her little brother burned his foot when Palin was 6, and her parents took him on the train to the closest emergency room, two hours away in Whitehorse, Yukon, Canada. It doesn't matter whether Canada had national hospital insurance then or not! They were AMERICANS who would have paid for their own health care – whatever they needed at an emergency room, regardless of what kind of care Canadians would have received with their national insurance.


Ian
Comment posted March 9, 2010 @ 11:53 am

Bilby, you “have it bad” if you don't realize what is going on. A lot of the leaders on the right suffer from the three H's. Hate, hubris and hypocrisy. This leader exhibits her suffering nearly every time she opens her mouth.


Anonymous
Comment posted March 9, 2010 @ 6:39 pm

Reform WILL pass this year. If you keep abreast of the news, you would know this. Palin has accepted it, that’s why she’s not promoting scare tactics for the final round. It’s easy enough to see through.

As far as the rest of my post, is there anything that is suspect? Palin sycophants will never accept that this charlatan (and that’s being kind) can do any wrong, so their opinions are null and void.

It seems the dog whistle for the sycophants is in full swing.


Anonymous
Comment posted March 9, 2010 @ 7:56 pm

Really? You mean she’s willing to risk her precious First Dude and her part-Inuit children and grandchildren to the death panels?

*cackles at Palin’s hypocrisy*


Anonymous
Comment posted March 9, 2010 @ 7:58 pm

Learn to read, puma-spoor.


Anonymous
Comment posted March 9, 2010 @ 7:59 pm

I’m sure the Canadian government will be interested to learn that its official web site has been hacked. Why don’t you e-mail the PM and let him know?


Anonymous
Comment posted March 9, 2010 @ 8:01 pm

Yes, it did, as has been pointed out several times. You may not want to believe it, but stop acting like a crumb-spattered child who insists that no no no, it was his imaginary friend who raided the cookie jar, not him.


Anonymous
Comment posted March 9, 2010 @ 8:02 pm

They were not Canadian citizens. By the lights of most conservatives these days, they had no business going to another country for health care. Twerp.


Anonymous
Comment posted March 9, 2010 @ 8:03 pm

Personally I think she was born in Equatorial Guinea, thanks to the Sooper Sekrit Brith Sertifikat that a convicted felon sold me on Ebay.


2cents
Comment posted March 9, 2010 @ 4:24 pm

Then they should have “hustled” on down to Juneau – the same two hour train ride.


Souris
Comment posted March 9, 2010 @ 4:28 pm

“Dredge?” She said it!
Where's the part where she talks about what terrible treatment her brother received? That's ya'll's argument…


real_american
Comment posted March 9, 2010 @ 4:31 pm

SHARING? What kind of Socialistic, Commie agenda is that???!?!
Glenn and Sarah and I know that REAL Americans don't share!!!


J.Boner
Comment posted March 9, 2010 @ 4:45 pm

What’s the real reason why liberal/progressives devote the enormous amounts of time, effort, ink, and pixels to attack one woman, Sarah Palin who is a private citizen, who does nothing but give speeches, sell books, post Facebook messages, and is a “Fox News contributor.

After all, it's not like Sarah Palin could actually be elected President of the United States or anything. Or could she?

Of course, she could, or at least the people attacking her think so. That is not to say that she will be elected or even nominated, but she could and that's clearly one reason why the left is so viciously attacking her and her alone.

But even that is only one factor, for the sheer derangement of the left's anti-Palin barrage and it's not the main factor, which is this: They are powerless to stop her. And they know it. The left is literally fearful that Sarah Palin could indeed be elected president and that there is nothing they can do about it.


James Quick
Comment posted March 9, 2010 @ 4:47 pm

I think the irony she is referring to is that when she was young they'd go to canada for health care and now we see many canadians coming to the US for health care.


ProtectAmerica
Comment posted March 9, 2010 @ 4:57 pm

“Afraid” of Sarah Palin? I think it's more a case of being “PETRIFIED” of some of our fellow Americans. People who actually *want* this woman to be President of the United States — people who are *truly* that ignorant, misguided, and naive. If those Americans ever got their way, this country would become little more than a perversion of what America supposedly stands for.

You bet your *ss I'm petrified — because too many American voters are dangerously stupid. And I'll do whatever it takes, within the confines of the law, to prevent a person from Sarah Palin from getting within 3 time zones of Washington DC.


JW
Comment posted March 9, 2010 @ 4:59 pm

Flag. check your facts, There is no railroad to Juneau.. Its either I long boat ride or if weather permits a expensive plane ride. Juneau is one of those places you cannot get there from here.. Jw


jcsanto2000
Comment posted March 9, 2010 @ 5:09 pm

You are an Idiot, She was under 6 years old it. It was not like she had a choice about who she would see when she was a child. You make your title sound like she did.


jcsanto2000
Comment posted March 9, 2010 @ 5:13 pm

People die here all the time because insurance company refuse their claims. Also because they can not afford to pay for procedures, what you say Is a big pile of BS


KAH
Comment posted March 9, 2010 @ 5:18 pm

The liberal/progressives spend time “attacking” Sarah Palin because she spends her time and makes her living now attacking liberals and progressives. She herself takes small comments and turns them into attacks. Who began this? Sarah Palin wasn't known until she began the attacks.


kevin
Comment posted March 9, 2010 @ 5:19 pm

Yes, the electorate is painfully stupid! Look at who they elected this last time!


SeanInNYC
Comment posted March 9, 2010 @ 5:20 pm

Check a map, and see how easy it is to get to Juneau from Skagway, vs. a straight run from Skagway to Whitehorse via the highway.

Kind of embarassing if you fancy yourself a journalist and can't do something like check “mapquest” to answer your own question about this non-story.


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ajm
Comment posted March 9, 2010 @ 6:22 pm

Boner,
There is something for anyone who has their eyes and minds open (liberal or not) can do to make sure Palin doesn't get anywhere near the presidency. She didn't just quit being governor to become a “private citizen.” Again, anyone who has a brain can easily see what her plan is. People who actually care for the U.S. and don't want to see it in the hands of someone who strives to even be mediocre make sure that her ramblings, inconsistent message, lies, hypocrisy, etc. get out there. Even the MSM can miss things because, when it comes to Palin, it's too hard to keep up.


ajm
Comment posted March 9, 2010 @ 6:25 pm

So what. Then they should have made the expensive plane ride. That would be the “conservative” way to handle it. Are you actually endorsing the fact that anyone who can't afford the conservative health care plan (which would be millions of people) should just shoot up to Canada???? Just want to clarify.


ajm
Comment posted March 9, 2010 @ 6:28 pm

Palin, herself, is pretty much saying she couldn't even empathize with her own parents. She's lived it and she still doesn't get it. She's an idiot.


yep
Comment posted March 9, 2010 @ 7:00 pm

And look at who they elected the prior two times. Yes, the electorate is painfully stupid.


Ulu
Comment posted March 9, 2010 @ 7:21 pm

Then they should have “hustled” on down to Juneau – the same two hour train ride.

Maybe so, but the meat of the argument is that Palin” went” ,she was 6, “wenting” wasn't a choice she was in charge of making.


ellid
Comment posted March 9, 2010 @ 7:48 pm

Personally, I do it because she's a liar, a hypocrite, and a theocrat. She's also so inept and so inarticulate that I burst out laughing whenever she comes on the news.

And oh – just how *do* you propose that this ridiculous hillbilly overcome a 79% disapproval rating and claim the Oval Office? Having the First Dude run over Mitt Romney, Ron Paul, Mike Huckabee and Tim Pawlenty in a snow mobile?


ellid
Comment posted March 9, 2010 @ 7:50 pm

Not to mention that millions of Americans have lost everything and become uninsurable because of accidents and illness, and millions more live in terror of losing their jobs because pre-existing conditions render them ineligible for private coverage.


ellid
Comment posted March 9, 2010 @ 7:52 pm

See below, bustard-brain.


AL Kildow
Comment posted March 9, 2010 @ 7:54 pm

I'm with you, scared s%*&less is a better word. She exhausted my “gag-reflexes” a long time ago.People must have already forgotten how totally embarrassing she was during the presidential election.


G.Alaska
Comment posted March 9, 2010 @ 8:25 pm

Juneau is our state capitol and we don't have any roads connecting to it. That's what I call ironic!


DinOhio
Comment posted March 9, 2010 @ 9:04 pm

Forty years ago Palin's family lived in a remote outpost American town and chose to take a, what, 2 hour ride over land to a hospital in Canada, instead of a 3-4 hour ferry ride to Juneau.

Last year the Canadian P.M. left one of the most advanced cities in Canada to get health care in America. Are liberals really sure this is something they want to talk about?


tom heutte
Comment posted March 9, 2010 @ 9:04 pm

there is no road from Skagway to Juneau, have to take a ferry, service about once a day takes several hours, quicker and cheaper to drive to Whitehorse.


DinOhio
Comment posted March 9, 2010 @ 9:08 pm

If Americans could elect someone so woefully unqualified and inexperienced as Barak Obama, they certainly could elect someone like Palin who has more experience in governing that Obama had. It's the new-age of celebrity politics.


Alaskan
Comment posted March 9, 2010 @ 10:21 pm

I was in grade school back when, but don't remember a road to Whitehorse from Skagway until the late 70s. The ferries ran back and forth between Skagway, Haines and Juneau a lot more than they do now and flights in and out of Juneau were available and pretty cheap (and since it is only 50 miles or so, pretty fast). The train stopped going back and forth between Skagway and Whitehorse around the same time (would have to look it up). Palin has told this story before but it took place in Juneau, not Whitehorse. My family used the ferries and the planes all the time then – for emergency a 30 to 45 minute flight makes more sense (even jumping on a ferry which was available a lot in those days). Even in the 60s the train was a tourist ride, guys, we're not talking the dark ages. So, inclined to believe the trip was to Juneau. Trouble with telling stories, even good ones, is if they're not true, they're just not true. And that has always been the problem – if you lie about the little things, and are ignorant about the big things, there is a problem with a person's character, morals and intellect. By the way, in Alaska in the 60s there was indoor plumbing, airplanes, tvs, swimming pools, etc. and even paved roads and some stoplights! Not everything was rustic or even rural. Skagway has been around a long time, as has most of Southeast – Sitka even had a castle and generations of Russian nobility and royalty as residents. There were times when towns in southeast Alaska led places outside for most vehicles per residents, in education, etc. And I speak as someone whose family has been here since before the Russians left. They don't speak with a mid-west twang, they worked hard as miners, fishermen and businesmen and some even had degrees and one or two of the grandmothers regularly ordered clothing out of Paris (France). So, can we get past the Hollywood image, too, while we are also getting over a very attractive woman with personal charisma, clever, but not intelligent, with a talent for story telling and an inability to do actual work? Well, had to quickly get my 2-cents in. Have to go.


fuzzybill
Comment posted March 9, 2010 @ 10:56 pm

How can you say that my arguments are a pile of BS? Whats do you know about Canada Mister Perfect Retard? What do you know about Quebec, the province where I live?

You know what? If what I say is BS, then at least my BS is DOCUMENTED WITH LINKS. YOURS ISN'T

What I'm pointing out is that our system has flaws. A rather intelligent person(obviously not you) would compare both systems, identify de pros ans cons, and then propose something in between to accomodate a majority of people.


fuzzybill
Comment posted March 9, 2010 @ 11:03 pm

I understand your concerns, and obviously both systems have flaws. I was pointing out some of our system here in Quebec (Canada).

Just keep in mind that people naturally tend to abuse from anything that is free, and THEY DO with everything they can. Yes do come overcrowd our emergencies when they have a cold or regular flu -.-

One solution could consist of a public healthcare system, but with “moderating tickets”.


Robert
Comment posted March 10, 2010 @ 3:10 am

Try going to the Yukon today and suggest they give up Medicare for US style HMO insurance. Watch the sparks fly but stand back a bit, the locals are armed (and can shoot straight).


Mar Levalle
Comment posted March 10, 2010 @ 5:27 am

Why is did Sara Palin's “folksy monologue” take a “shocking turn” when she admitted her parents made the decision to seek health care in Canada? It wasn't her decision, she was a 5 or 6 year old child! Would you like to be held responsible for for what your parents chose to do when you were a small child?

It's ridiculous how the press jumps on any and every little tid bit they come across and try to make it something newsworthy! No, I take that back. It's pathetic!


JerryM
Comment posted March 10, 2010 @ 5:44 am

I am a lib who is strongly opposed to Palin having the least bit of power but come on, she was a kid. Hardly any sign of hypocrisy and Juneau has no roads across to it. But, if this was any supposed hypocrisy of a lib when he was a child you can bet the rightwingers would be all over it. To quote Palin, “you betcha.”


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MikeL
Comment posted March 11, 2010 @ 5:15 pm

David Wiegel asks, “But it’s about as far from Skagway to Juneau, so the question remains why the family “hustled” to a country with, at the time, the beginnings of government-run health care.” It's the road, time, and expediency, stupid! These hate-filled writers can ask a question, but not bother to do even a little research themselves because they don't want the truth, just the mud, slime, and their political point…or he knew the truth, but just didn't care for it, so spun it.


Jax
Comment posted March 11, 2010 @ 8:07 pm

Rich Canadians cross the border to get the best, most expensive healthcare money can buy. Poor Americans cross the border to get healthcare that won't send them into bankruptcy at the exact time when they're unable to work. Yep, liberals sure do want to talk about this, but keep sticking up for the status quo. Sure has been working out for Ohio.


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Gene
Comment posted May 28, 2010 @ 4:43 pm

My God! They took a train to Canada for a burn! Even if it were freezing and dangerous to drive, this is no excuse.

And she “admitted” it. Holy Cow, what a scoop.

Well, if she can confess that, I will confess being treated in Toronoto, as I was covered by OHIP (the Ontario health plan, there is no “Canadian” plan.) I apologize. I can say, the “care” did not exist, so I went to a chirpractic hospital.


Celebrities Nude
Comment posted August 27, 2010 @ 3:08 pm

Let's put it this way: if there is this much confusion about it on here, I'm guessing Sarah Palin was thinking the health system in Canada was socialized or why else would it be ironic that they hustled over there for health care? Then again, she probably doesn't know the meaning of ironic.


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