Cheneyites Lose Stimson, Rivkin, Casey in al-Qaeda Shark-Jump

Monday, March 08, 2010 at 9:26 am

David Rivkin and Lee Casey are an op-ed-writing team of former GOP legal officials who defend practically every terrorism-related policy pushed by the Bush administration. Here they are saying that warrantless surveillance “has always been on firm legal ground.” Here they are saying that the Justice Department and CIA torture memos somehow prove “the actual techniques used… did not cause severe pain or degradation.” Here they are saying that Congress can do practically nothing to stop a war aside from ceasing to appropriate money for it. Clearly they know something about implausible spin. And even they think the Cheneyites crossed a line by calling Justice Department lawyers who defended Guantanamo detainees the “al-Qaeda Seven.

Ben Smith has a letter signed by a coalition of Republican legal mainstays, including Rivkin and Casey, denouncing Keep America Safe’s most recent ad, terming it “a shameful series of attacks” on people who upheld the “American tradition of zealous representation of unpopular clients [which] is at least as old as John Adams’s representation of the British soldiers charged in the Boston massacre.” Other signatories include, of all people, Cully Stimson, the Pentagon official in charge of detainee policy who resigned for exactly the same offense that the Cheneyites committed and the letter condemns. Yes, they’ve lost that guy.

And they know it. Smith cites Bill Kristol, a board member of Keep America Safe, implausibly spinning the ad as an attempt to merely raise questions about disclosure — which itself suggests that the Justice Department lawyers did something untoward, something a Founding Father disputes — and not impugning the loyalty of the people the ad called the “al-Qaeda Seven.” That sounds like an attempt at a face-saving retreat, with Kristol’s attacks on the critics of the ads acting as little more than suppressing fire. The question now becomes whether Keep America Safe’s toxic reputation remains with it the next time it attempts to attack the patriotism of the Obama administration.

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Comment posted March 8, 2010 @ 10:31 pm

Maybe it's a Cheney gene;
The whole family's on the scene.
And from the way it looks,
They want to change the history books.
If Justice does do what ir should,
And indicts this old coot,
We'll soon see him lookin' good,
In a lovely orange jumpsuit.

Comment posted March 8, 2010 @ 11:24 pm

I think that Keep America Safe is raising legitimate questions about our justice system. For example: do we hold due process dear because it is the best mechanism for ensuring judicial fairness anyone has ever invented, or is it merely 'quaint'? And more importantly, are there other nations that have evolved beyond such antiquated Constituational requirements and recognized the superiority of authoritarian whimsy? Other nations that might have room for The Cheney and Kristol families, for example? Perhaps Saudi Arabia? How about Iran? How about if I buy you a ticket?

Comment posted March 8, 2010 @ 11:34 pm

Let's remember that Keep AmeriKa safe is an organization of MEN. It is those MEN who have sullied their own reputation, that includes Bill Kristol, Liz Cheney, and Dick Cheney. They have discredited themselves and it must stick on them.

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Comment posted March 9, 2010 @ 2:23 am

The Cheney's are tragic figures. Constantly grasping for power. I guess the old saw is right. Always two there are. A master and an apprentice.

Comment posted March 9, 2010 @ 6:32 am

The Democrats and liberals would like to believe and to exaggerate the referenced letter as a major rift in the Republican community while stories are breaking in every news cycle about the Democrats' infighting and the intimidation tactics of the Chief of Staff.

Certainly, Keep America Safe should be allowed to exercise First Amendment rights to express concern or to fundamentally disagree with the DOJ's actions. And eminent legal professionals should be allowed to uphold the principles of their profession without castigation OR being construed as personally attacking Liz Cheney.

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Comment posted March 9, 2010 @ 2:36 pm

Dr Susan, I haven't heard any democrats or liberals crowing about a rift in the Republican community. But I have heard them express great relief that most Republicans recognize this vicious smear campaign for what it is. I think most of us understand that asking for transparency in government is not the goal, when the tactic is to slander people who acted properly as “the al-Qaeda seven”. That isn't expressing disagreement; that's insinuating treason.

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