Palin: Obama Was ‘Arrogant’ to Criticize McCain

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Friday, February 26, 2010 at 4:17 pm

In an interview with Sean Hannity on his ABC News radio show, Sarah Palin chastised President Obama for telling Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), during the health care summit, “the campaign is over.”

“Todd and I both saw that,” said Palin, “and we both said, you know, how arrogant for our president to say that.” She called McCain “an American war hero who has sacrificed so much,” arguing that for him “to be dissed like that on national television did not speak well for our president’s character.”

It was about as soft an interview as these exchanges can be. “I like it when you say common-sense conservatism,” said Hannity. “That, to me, means Reagan conservatism.”

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MAL
Comment posted February 26, 2010 @ 4:44 pm

It is not a question of arrogance because instead of thinking the way to improve our life conditions in US (Health care issue), Mc Cain was acting like he is still in campaign. This is not good for us (the American people). You cannot say no for everything. Do u imagine how many people are dying because they cannot afford health insurance?

I am so sorry, but it is triue that you should focus more on the American welfare than political matters.


chrisjay
Comment posted February 26, 2010 @ 4:50 pm

Is it just me or has that woman's ubiquity begun to inure us all to what a whiney bitch she really is ?


katahdin
Comment posted February 26, 2010 @ 4:53 pm

As usual, I disagree with moose girl. Telling the truth is not arrogance. I find the president's directness refreshing. The truth is that Republicans talk in code and they all say the same thing at the same time. “Arrogant” is code for “uppity” as in “that uppity negro thinks he's the president or something.”
I think that President Obama has realized that it profits neither himself nor the the country to try to talk to Republicans as if they were reasonable people.


JohnC
Comment posted February 26, 2010 @ 4:58 pm

Is there anything anyone can say that doesn't upset or offend Sarah Palin?

She may be a moose-huntin', pistol-packin' mama from the Great White North, but she has awfully thin skin.


Blah
Comment posted February 26, 2010 @ 5:47 pm

I cannot wait until Palin-fancy jumps the proverbial shark.


triciafromAK
Comment posted February 26, 2010 @ 5:52 pm

There isn't a subject out there where her knickers don't get in a bunch it seems. His “arrogance” isn't even anywhere near her ignorance! John McCain may be war hero but now is guilty of endangering the country by putting this person a heart beat away from the Presidency and upon losing the election, loosening this idiot wind upon the America.


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snowbilly
Comment posted February 26, 2010 @ 6:06 pm

It wasn't “arrogant.”
McCain/Palin cannot face the fact that they should be putting “country first,” not themselves.
There is a cool blog collecting questions for Sarah Palin. When will she face the nation? Meet the press?

http://palinquestions.blogspot.com


Letdownrepublican
Comment posted February 26, 2010 @ 6:11 pm

Go away Palin!!! You're acting like the prom date that got stood up! Nobody wants your opion on everything that is said!! Take the lick on the chin and learn from it!! But you need to go away so three years down the road you are considered relevant not annoying!!


Whiney Bitch
Comment posted February 26, 2010 @ 6:17 pm

You obviously have never been taught to respect others, even if you disagree with them. I bet you do not have even a fraction of the courage, personal integrity or values of either Sarah Palin and John McCain.


Deo
Comment posted February 26, 2010 @ 7:06 pm

Wait a minute. Who is $arah playing to when she sticks up for McShame? Don't her teabaggers hate her when she sides with the old goat? I guess if it's a smackdown of the sitting president of the United States it's ok though.

…and what is this? Does Todd “MANTAN” Palin actually utter sounds?


Steve_X
Comment posted February 26, 2010 @ 7:22 pm

“I like it when you say common-sense conservatism,” said Hannity. “That, to me, means Reagan conservatism.”

So I guess this means tons and tons of spending capped off by tax increases? I ask because the Reagan that conservatives seem to worship never actually existed.

On the other hand, Palin DID spend Wasilla into massive debt, and she DID increase taxes on oil companies in order to spread the wealth around to the people of Alaska. I guess that makes her a God-fearing, freedom loving, patriotic…socialist.


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katahdin
Comment posted February 26, 2010 @ 8:30 pm

Could you enlighten me as to when Sarah Palin has ever shown any integrity? Was it when she used her position as governor to conduct a campaign of harassment against her ex-brother-in-law? Perhaps it was when she ran for governor supporting the Bridge to Nowhere (she wore a BTN tee shirt), then turned on a dime and opposed it and claimed she had never supported it. Or maybe, her relentless exploitation of her children demonstrates her character and integrity.

I will grant that John McCain has in the past taken unpopular positions because he thought they were right. But that begs the question: why did he try to place the incompetent and untrustworthy Sarah Palin in the position of being one 72 year old, four-time cancer survivor's heartbeat away from the presidency.


snark levine
Comment posted February 26, 2010 @ 8:48 pm

Common-sense conservatism is as oxymoronic as jumbo shrimp.


ocsun
Comment posted February 26, 2010 @ 9:13 pm

Well, she is only “offended” and “outraged” when it is someone she doesn't like. If Rush had told McCain that the campaign was over, she would have claimed he was using “satire”. I wonder if she has a hard time keeping track of all of her hypocrisies and double standards. Oh, wait, what am I thinking, she has her hand for that kind of record keeping. WHEW. LOL


borisball
Comment posted February 26, 2010 @ 9:19 pm

Arrogant? Why not just say uppity and be done with it?


monkey99
Comment posted February 26, 2010 @ 10:43 pm

Yes, euphemisms are the political epithets, now. It seems being “polite” is so advanced, none of the rest of us “regular” people can figure it out.

And the convenient mental editing. Like the rest of us don't remember? Pulling things out of mid air is the new definition of “working in the interest of the American people” to the GOP.


monkey99
Comment posted February 26, 2010 @ 10:44 pm

Wait…..Insects have skin?


AKRNC
Comment posted February 26, 2010 @ 11:44 pm

I wonder what Palin thinks of the times when McCain has cursed at the families of Vietnam vets who are still looking for answers. The “f” bomb flew from his mouth every few seconds but, of course, that's just “satire” in Palin's stupid world.

Palin repeatedly criticizes the President but nobody is supposed to say anything to her or anyone else she approves of, otherwise, the criticism is fine with her.

Would somebody please tell this woman that her 15 minutes is up? She won't run for President because of all the skeletons in her closet. She's hanging in for all the money she can make between now and when her followers realize she isn't going to run.

$arah, go back to Wasilla and take care of your family. This country does not need someone who has stepped all over her family & friends to get to the top like you tried to do.


Agateman
Comment posted February 27, 2010 @ 12:14 am

fuck you


youmustbejoking
Comment posted February 27, 2010 @ 12:40 am

I am so sick of her stupidity and mindless drivel that spews from her lying mouth. She can criticize anyone she wants- Democrats- and McCain bringing up campaign stuff in the middle of a televised discussion on health care can't be told the campaign is over? Sarah- you a a twit. The things McCain wanted during the campaign the repugs won't even vote for now- they only want to say no. Well, the insurance companies are raising the rates from 39 to 43% all over the country. How many people are going to be saying they are happy with the coverage they have now? You would think the insurance industry is trying to force Congress into health care reform!


youmustbejoking
Comment posted February 27, 2010 @ 12:50 am

People need to earn and deserve respect and Sarah Palin doesn't deserve it. She is a liar, an opportunist and a quitter. She needs to shut up and go away.

John McCain demonstrated he was more interested in winning than the good of the country when he selected her as his running mate. For that he lost all respect he may have had previously. He has quit being the “maverick” and is just another jerk republican living well off the taxpayers and screwing the people some more. Of course, he had a whole lot of failures in the “personal integrity and values” department. He was a cheater, he failed to follow orders, he was a womanizer and he talked while a POW.

Palin messes up everything she touches as all Alaska is finding out in the cleanup that has to be done in her wake.She couldn't get elected to dog catcher in Alaska these days.


GaPeach
Comment posted February 27, 2010 @ 12:51 am

Yes. Obama acted uppity. He always likes to remind us that he is the President.However, he fails to understand we are a republic and has not been elected Dictator.


LaLee
Comment posted February 27, 2010 @ 1:11 am

“He always likes to remind us that he is the President.”

Well, if the GOP stop obstructing him perhaps he doesn't have to do it so much.


southingtonian
Comment posted February 27, 2010 @ 1:13 am

My Dear Ms Palin. He spoke the truth. The campaign IS over. It's time to focus on doing the People's business, not the GOP's. And from whom did he arrogate the power? He IS the President. His role IS to keep the government focused on the salient issues (oops sorry, mmmm) the important issues, and urge them to get their work done.


Inri Porter
Comment posted February 27, 2010 @ 1:46 am

…and somebody pays attention to this ignorant cow?


Inri Porter
Comment posted February 27, 2010 @ 2:05 am

I'm not really sure what exactly a “war hero” is, or what exactly that entitles one to. I am fairly certain that Senator McCain is a 'war hero' in the sense that he did more than his share, and certainly more than the rest of the members of the U.S. Senate (and certainly more than his idiot age-contemporary, George Bush). However, wrecking 4 airplanes BEFORE getting shot down (and being officially described as “lacking in airmanship”) doesn't help his case; nor does his conduct as a PW provide any great inspiration…once PAVN found out who is father and grandfather were, they sequestered McCain, and the stories about his torture have always been (1) allegedly exaggerated and (2) absolutely unverified. Hypocrisy and fraud have always been part of politics, and Senator McCain can hardly be faulted more than so many of his who routinely engage in such practices. However, the real reason to get this guy out of office – or at least keep him out of any decision making – is the fact that he was so stupid, so indifferent, so cynical, so willing to risk the future of the Nation as to pick a half-wit shrew like Sarah Palin as his VP.


polishlogician
Comment posted February 27, 2010 @ 2:08 am

I wonder what her and Todd don't agree on….


letscheck
Comment posted February 27, 2010 @ 6:45 am

Is this the place for stupid people to post?

I don't think there has been one remark that had anything to do with the comments taken out of context.

Did any one of you even listen to a couple of hours of the Health Care Summit? Maybe even one hour of it? Did you hear the comments yourself and have your own opinion?

No, you just came here to bash. Guess this is the kool ade bar.


ajm8127
Comment posted February 27, 2010 @ 8:55 am

Yes, and that's the problem.


ajm8127
Comment posted February 27, 2010 @ 8:55 am

Yes, and that's the problem.


daisey
Comment posted February 27, 2010 @ 10:56 am

“ignorant cow”, “stupid people come here to post”, etc. I can see we've got the more highly educated posting here. When you can't argue the facts, then attack your opponent. Old layer trick. Namecalling…old schoolyard trick and method used by those unable to debate using facts and figures. Obama showed he was unwilling to negotiate, wasn't interested in facts or figures. It was political posturing. Did anyone here pay attention to Paul Ryan's remarks? Is anyone here aware of the financial implications of this bill? You can't pay for something with money you don't have. You cannot buy your way out of debt. Where will the money come from to help pay for this bill…from massive cuts in medicare and medicaid. Look it up. The government will decide who gets treatment and what treatment they will receive. Look it up. The secretary of health and human services will make the call. Look it up. You don't have to have insurance, but if you choose not to, you will see an increase in your taxes. When you go to the doctor, they will enter your name into a huge governmental database. They will have access to your credit cards, your bank account and savings account. At that time they will determine what you can afford to pay. Look it up. Nurses and doctors will be forced to join unions. Look it up. Doctors will not determine the best course of treatment for their patient, the government will. Check it out. Read the bill. Have someone translate it if you don't understand. Then come back here and explain to all of us why this is good for the people of this country. If you pay taxes, then you will find yourself with increased taxation and paying for those who pay nothing in taxes. Just like when Obama said he will cut capital gains taxes on small businesses. SMALL BUSINESSES DON'T PAY CAPITAL GAINS TAXES UNTIL THEY SELL THEIR INVESTMENT. That is not going to give anyone any jobs. The created jobs have been in the federal and state government levels. We taxpayers pay for them and their salaries, and their pensions and their health care, which is not the same health care you will be getting. Oh, and your health care insurance will be taxed. However, if you are in a union and have a cadillac plan, your taxes on health insurance have been waived. Obama made a deal with them on that issue. Look it up. So if you like paying taxes, more taxes, while some will pay no taxes and yet have a far better insurance plan than you, then go for it. Support his bill.


katahdin
Comment posted February 27, 2010 @ 11:09 am

Wow, you just regurgitated a huge vomit pile of untrue right-wing talking points. The only thing you left out is “death panels.”
FYI, we already have bureaucrats making health care decisions. They just work for insurance companies, and they don't care if you live or die.


chrisjay
Comment posted February 27, 2010 @ 11:38 am

I'm not going to take the time to reiterate the laundry-list of problems I have with the snowbilly grifter. Fox has given her a bully pulpit that she may now ram her feeble-minded, low-information kvetchfests down our throats ad nauseum. Her only value is comedic, as when the Downs Syndrome-afflicted actress whom Sarah had been bashing retorted, “I'm tired of the way Palin totes Trig around like a loaf of french bread”


chrisjay
Comment posted February 27, 2010 @ 11:40 am

they're already selling that 'book' for peanuts—-Dollar Tree beckons…


chrisjay
Comment posted February 27, 2010 @ 11:42 am

“look it up”
in Palin's 'book' ?
LOL


ocsun
Comment posted February 27, 2010 @ 12:00 pm

maybe you should take your own advice and “look it up” everything you just claimed is factually inaccurate. factcheck.org. They take EVERY claim you just made and expose it for what it is: LIES. Did you get all that info. from the email that was circulating? Sounds like it.


youmustbejoking
Comment posted February 27, 2010 @ 2:09 pm

Just who do you think makes the decisions about the care you receive now? If you are one of the fortunates that actually have insurance, the insurance company does. They have complete access to all things medical about you and they decide what treatment the doctor can provide you with. If they think the medicine the doctor wants you to take is to pricey, they won't pay and can insist on another one. Unless you are wealthy enough to pay out of pocket for all the things the insurance won't. And if you are, this debate isn't really about you. This is for all the people who can't afford to pay for the extras insurance won't cover or for those who have no coverage at all.

I think Obama has shown he was willing to negotiate- there are just some things that have to happen. The republicans, on the other hand. won't even vote for a bill that they co-sponsored that is to help lower the deficit? Who exactly is being obstructionist?

If the cutting capital gains tax is worthless in your opinion, why do the republicans keep pushing for that?


youmustbejoking
Comment posted February 27, 2010 @ 2:14 pm

I heard the remarks made by the president and McCain. I think Palin is a stupid cow or at least has the mentality of one. She seems to think it is fine to criticize at will but if anyone else does it, it's wrong. She should just shut up.


youmustbejoking
Comment posted February 27, 2010 @ 2:16 pm

I heard the remarks made by the president and McCain. I think Palin is a stupid cow or at least has the mentality of one. She seems to think it is fine to criticize at will but if anyone else does it, it's wrong. She should just shut up.


TooManyCrazyCrackers
Comment posted February 27, 2010 @ 2:31 pm

“Uppity,” eh? Bet you never would use that word to describe a white president, would you? But thanks for your honesty. $arah Palin wanted to use the word, but chose “arrogant” instead. “Arrogant” is the new “uppity.”


monkey99
Comment posted February 27, 2010 @ 3:00 pm

Were you watching the same summit on TV as the rest of us were? Or was it the “edited-for-content” version a particular network is fond of?

The campaign IS over. It was a statement of fact. That the Republicans showed up with no intent of negotiating is not President Obama's fault. The healthcare problem in this country is, and has been, in dire need of correction. The GOP is well aware of this fact. It's been a year of lies (hello, Sarah) obfuscation and scare tactics. The healthcare burden is almost 15% of our GDP. No other country has a percentage anywhere near that number, and our healthcare is rated at 37th, internationally. So much for the “best” healthcare in the world.

Almost anything Obama can do is better than what we have now, not just in healthcare, but many other areas. That the GOP doesn't even want to come to the table to correct these issues shows how little they care about the American people. That includes YOU, too.

Sarah Palin puts forth another example of her bald-faced hypocrisy. How this woman ever got anywhere, knowing as little as she knows about anything, shows that she is a master manipulator. She depends on emotionalism and cute colloquialisms to prove a “point”, rather than substance. So while you criticize those here who see through that thin veneeer, how does it make you look?

Taxes, my dear, are necessary. More so now, than ever. You can thank George W. Bush for that. While we spun our wheels in two wars, one of them unnecessary, our infrastructure suffered. Where is the money to fix that supposed to come from? Tax rebates?

So please understand that the reason these good folk have nothing good to say about Palin, McCain, or anyone else who is not interested in digging this country out of the miasma Bush left behind, is because they HAVE gone through the FACTS, and were not bamboozled by emotionalism or crazy baby talk.


Enzedder
Comment posted February 27, 2010 @ 4:46 pm

Somebody now has. I bet she was itching to add another word too…


Dale Lockhart
Comment posted February 27, 2010 @ 5:05 pm

Your comments make no sense. The reason health care is expensive, by and large is because the government got involved to begin with in 1965. Ever since then the costs have been spiraling. The solution is not more government, it is less. Any project the government manages is done poorly, for example the post office. Getting more government involvement will exacerbate matters. Further, this unduly complicated bill is really about fascism and government control. If this bill passes, we will cease to be the America that we once were. It will be over. We will be another aimless, unremarkable European country.

The Republicans have been trying to offer solutions. However, Obama has boxed them out with midnight deals and closed doors. When Senator McCain asked why was the President doing this, all the President could do was hide behind his lawyer tricks and say “the election is over” He did not answer the question, nor did he even try. And the reason he did not answer is because he does not care about the people, he is trying to control this country for a long time. Once this bill passes, Democrats will control forever. This bill is like social security and medicare, except worse.


Enzedder
Comment posted February 27, 2010 @ 6:43 pm

I wouldn't waste too much angst on the SQOTUS (Supreme Quitter of the United States) guys. She is well into the last minute of her 15 – at least as far as being someone even a teabagger would look up to. The new revelations about her multiple Trigs are just dripping into circulation now. Once the Enquirer gets hold of them, the floodgates will open.

For a sneak preview of the coming storm, take a look at the immoral minority blog.


monkey99
Comment posted February 27, 2010 @ 6:48 pm

How do you come by that assessment, when it is private industry (i.e., the healthcare insurance industry) that holds this country hostage? Government didn't do that. The fact that they enjoy exemption from the same regulations that keep other private industry from victimizing the American people is part and parcel the reason it needs to change. The HII have fought regulation tooth and nail for 60 plus years. Ever wonder why?

While we're at it, look at the tsunami threat that faced Hawaii today. Thank goodness it didn't do anything, no one got hurt, no damage was suffered. The system WORKED to advise people of possible impending disaster. Government did that.

Please stop bandying about these titles (fascism, communism, totalitarianism, oligarchism, et al.) that have no correlation to our system. You were frightened by the same scare tactics that Palin and her ilk have regurgitated since the election. Don't insult me, or anyone else, because we weren't.

Temporary spending is the only way to get out of this recession. To say otherwise is burying your head in the sand, and ignoring the very real problems this country faces. The GOP has no answers. Haven't from the start. Again, ever wonder why? Two words….Status quo. Or do you like this recession? Without something done, which the Republicans have shown they are unwilling to do, this country would have tanked. If you liked the recession, you would have Loved a depression, which is where we were headed.

If you dislike social programs because they have the word “social” in them, don't apply or accept Social Security. Or medicare. Or any other program. That's your right, but while you will (I know you will), don't complain. You'll just look foolish.

Again, it is YOU who have swallowed the lies, obfuscation and scare tactics. Hate and fear are powerful, the evidence of that is what is muddying debate today. You don't have to believe me, do your own research. How do I know you haven't up to now? Because you let lies, obfuscation, scare tactics, hate and fear dictate your comment. Read it over, it's all there.


DaleL
Comment posted February 27, 2010 @ 8:27 pm

Taking 20% of the economy FOREVER, sir, is not temporary spending.

Social Security is bankrupt. Medicare is bankrupt. And now the President wants to put everyone into a bankrupt system. This is basic stuff. Look at what happened to the Soviet Union and every country that embraces cradle to grave socialism (yes Socialism). Spain, Greece are about the topple the European Union because of their government spending.

Anyway. Enjoy your day sir. You attack me personally, but I relate to your comments. Same old stuff. I do not have facts? Sir, social security is bankrupt–THAT IS A FACT. You do not need to lecture me like the President, that the “election is over”. Yes that is a fact, but it is also irrelevant. Senator McCain raised a good point about backdoor deals on the biggest government takeover ever, and the President could not respond.

Cuba? Bankrupt. Italy is in trouble. Germany is in trouble. They all have high taxes and no incentive to work. All they have are people looking to their next vacation. What made this country great were hard working private industry. The facts are so obvious it is not even funny. Every socialist country has no ambition, and high taxes.

The Prime Minister of Newfoundland, Canada, just came to the US for surgery! Why? Because the medical care in Canada is inferior and he would have to wait in line for heart surgery! This is like a governor of a state in the US. He rejected his own socialized medicine! Socialism, in case you have not noticed the facts, as you tell me I do not know them, does not work. It never has and never will. Just 20 years ago the Soviet Union collapsed under its own weight of economic disaster.

This bill is not about medicine really, it is about government takeover of our economy.

We will not agree. But stop the ad hominem attacks. There is an answer to Senator McCain's question to the President, and it is not “John, the election is over” Notice that all Republicans addressed the President as “Mr. President” And the President disrespectfully addressed everyone else by their first names. You do not pass the largest government takeover of the economy in decades, and do it behind closed doors.

The whole reason the care is expensive now is because the government got involved to begin with in 1965. Now you just want to make it worse. And that is what will happen when the Democrats, immorally use “Reconciliation” to pass this bill against the wishes of the American people. Did you see what happened to Ted Kennedy's seat? They have a form of socialized medicine in Massachusetts and the people in the most liberal state in the US said no to Ted Kennedy and elected a man who said he would vote against the 2400 page bill.

Have a nice day, Sir.

Enjoy your day Monkey99.


monkey99
Comment posted February 27, 2010 @ 10:19 pm

Your examples don't exactly prove your point. The Soviet Union failed because it put military spending above all else (sound familiar?).

“The election is over” is not irrelevant. Did you notice the text of the blog?

The “backdoor deals” are gone. For exactly the reasons you are so sore about.

If Social Security is bankrupt, it is because of the politicians (both left and right, just so you don't think I'm being unfair) using it as their own little slush fund during the 60's through the 90's.

Just so you know, I have used the British system of healthcare, and it far outweighed what we presently have, so do not school ME on how great our system is, that's being disingenuous, and furthering another falsehood. All the other countries are not the United States, so comparisons just don't make sense.

McCain was stumping, because he's in trouble in his home state. So while you think he had a pertinent point, it was about impressing his constituents. Nothing more, and President Obama knew this.

Please don't keep going on about “closed doors”. The Republicans were asked to join numerous times. They steadfastly refused. Repeatedly.

“Immoral” use of reconciliation? Better look up how many times it has been used, and by whom. You may not like what you find.

The people of MA. won't give up their “socialized” medicine, though, will they?

Yes, we will agree to disagree, but I'm not using fear and hate, as well as lies, obfuscation and scare tactics to prove a point. I've been through too much in Iraq to fall prey to that kind of politics. If it fits you, however, go for it. Just don't ask any of the rest of us to buy into it, because it just doesn't scan.

You have a nice night, likewise.


chrisjay
Comment posted February 28, 2010 @ 12:31 pm

that's Cheney's line


Ogami Itto
Comment posted February 28, 2010 @ 6:22 pm

In Palin's defense, she certainly would be an expert on arrogance.


youmustbejoking
Comment posted March 1, 2010 @ 3:37 am

The Canadian Premier chose to come to the US because he could get a different procedure than the one his doctors wanted to do. He preferred the minimally invasive one he was able to get here. He paid for it.

Social Security is not bankrupt yet. If all the monies that were “borrowed” from it were paid back it would be in much better shape. I am all for making it needs based, though. Of course some of those who thought they would never need it, do now thanks to the financial fall and people like Bernie Madoff.

And by the way, Scott Brown voted for the health care system they have in Massachusetts. Did you notice on the campaign, Scott Brown rarely ever said he was a republican? And how he is pro-choice? And favors equal rights for gays and lesbians? And favors doing away with DADT?


DaleL
Comment posted March 1, 2010 @ 4:28 am

The Canadian Premier chose to come to the US because he could get a different procedure than the one his doctors wanted to do. He preferred the minimally invasive one he was able to get here. He paid for it.

>>Exactly. The doctors in Canada were not innovative. Captialism causes innovation. Exactly. He paid for it. You get what you pay for. Golly. You could not have made my case better. This is the point–in every field. The US is the best, or was, because of the innovation here. But that is changing as this President imposes his will on the people.

Social Security is not bankrupt yet. If all the monies that were “borrowed” from it were paid back it would be in much better shape. I am all for making it needs based, though. Of course some of those who thought they would never need it, do now thanks to the financial fall and people like Bernie Madoff.

>>Sorry, sir. We disagree. Social security is bankrupt. Even the President admits this. People take out now way more than they put in. People are living longer. The young people will have to support the baby boomers forever. We disagree on the facts. Bush tried to allow individuals to invest their money privately. But the socialists went ballistic. Social security basically says : “You are too stupid to invest for retirement, so we will do it for you.” Have you seen your paycheck lately and seen how much of it goes to social security. There are people pulling out $2000 a month! And they put in way less. The system was not designed for this.

And by the way, Scott Brown voted for the health care system they have in Massachusetts. Did you notice on the campaign, Scott Brown rarely ever said he was a republican? And how he is pro-choice? And favors equal rights for gays and lesbians? And favors doing away with DADT?

>>Let's assume everything you say is true. So what!. He is bad, or not honest or whatever your point is.

Mr. Brown campaigned specifically to vote against Obama Care, that was his whole theme in the election. And he won against a very popular attorney general Democrat. The people in Massachusetts voted him in for the seat of the champion of socialized medicine who was the most left member of the Senate for 48 years: The Honorable Ted Kennedy. This is in the most leftist state in the union.

The point is that if it was rejected there, it is an example of what the people do not want: they specifically reject Obama Care.

And also, Thank You YMBJoking for refraining from AdHominem attacks. I appreciate it very much.

I enjoyed conversing with you. All the best.


youmustbejoking
Comment posted March 1, 2010 @ 4:31 am

I seem to remember these words: “I'm the decider and I decide what's best.” Where was Palin then? Oh, that's right, Bush is a republican and can say whatever he wants. Republicans can even say “retard” and not raise Palin's blood pressure. Let a democrat use the term in a private meeting that wasn't even about republicans and Palin is screaming. She just demonstrates she is who is “mentally challenged”.


monkey99
Comment posted March 1, 2010 @ 9:26 pm

Thank you for stepping in, above.

I get a bit shall we say, tense, when unfounded attacks come from those who have shown nothing but hypocrisy. Or worse. I realize he did not warrant ad-hominem attacks, yet my training has ingrained in me a mindset that is not always pretty. Again, thank you.


monkey99
Comment posted March 2, 2010 @ 2:26 am

Thank you for stepping in, above.

I get a bit shall we say, tense, when unfounded attacks come from those who have shown nothing but hypocrisy. Or worse. I realize he did not warrant ad-hominem attacks, yet my training has ingrained in me a mindset that is not always pretty. Again, thank you.


Abdul Hanka
Comment posted July 11, 2010 @ 7:59 pm

Sara Palin was right. Senator McCain asked the President about the payoffs the president made to various states to get votes to pass the Medical Bill. It was a good question and it deserved an answer–not the comment the President gave “the campaign is over.”

Someone sent me this Email, and all I see is name calling with four letter words.


74suited
Comment posted July 11, 2010 @ 7:16 pm

palin is a FUCKING COCKSUCKING MORON


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Comment posted July 14, 2010 @ 7:58 am

i think Palin said McCain warned the country that Obama's policies would increase the size of …. I'll defer to your opinion on who's an arrogant!


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