Trent Franks: Abortion Is Worse for Blacks Than Slavery Was

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Friday, February 26, 2010 at 5:16 pm

Mike Stark talks to Rep. Trent Franks (R-Ariz.), a conservative in a safe seat who has no qualms about discussing abortion in extreme terms, and Stark gets the congressman to say legal abortion was worse for African-Americans than slavery was.

“I don’t believe for one second that he intends to insult anyone,” says Stark. “I don’t think he sees the racism (or paternalism) in what he’s saying.” I agree. Franks has been a huge proponent of this argument, going so far as to show the documentary “Mafaa 21: Black Genocide in 21st Century America” to his House colleagues. That film argues, as some black conservatives argue, that legal abortion came about as a plot by white eugenicists to destroy black America. So that’s where Franks is coming from.

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alchemytoday
Comment posted February 26, 2010 @ 5:51 pm

“That film argues, as some black conservatives argue, that legal abortion came about as a plot by white eugenicists to destroy black America. So that’s where Franks is coming from.”

This is ridiculous. People pushing the abortion=black genocide nonsense are overwhelmingly white. Even if Franks believes what he's saying, it's still racist. The whole campaign is race baiting built on historical fiction. Exploiting the black community to stop abortion is racist. If he doesn't see this, it doesn't make it less true. Good-natured people genuinely thought segregation was good for black Americans, too, and they were still actively engaged in a racist practice. Thinking your heart is in the right place doesn't make something OK.

He's involved in a movement overwhelmingly run by white Americans that aims to trick the black community into believing that Margaret Sanger was secretly plotting black genocide. That's racist, and it's ridiculous that you're going out of your way to excuse him for it.


ushi von
Comment posted February 26, 2010 @ 7:42 pm

Many people pushing the anti-abortion issue and how it affects black americans disproportionately and overwhelmingly ARE white. So did you assume they are rascists or do you concur that they are NOT rascist? I conclude they are NOT rascist. If slavery affected 50% of blacks and 20% of whites and the abolitionists who were white complained about black slavery and the rascism of it…you would think they were rascist?
White pro-lifers are overwhelmingly thoughtful loving NON rascists….like ME. Swallow that one that you were prejudiced against white pro lifers unjustifiably and falsely. lol. Get your thinking straightened out love. Those who want to save innocent babies and their mums from going through with abortions are not the baddies and those who say they are are either ignorant, misled or evil underneath their smarmy smiling exterior.


alchemytoday
Comment posted February 26, 2010 @ 9:21 pm

Didn't say pro-lifers are racist. I said people who fabricate history to pretend that Planned Parenthood secretly wants to eradicate black babies are racist.


youmustbejoking
Comment posted February 27, 2010 @ 12:56 am

Especially when the ones who want to outlaw abortion are the first ones that one to cut the funding to programs to help those poor black women after they have that baby that they didn't want to really have or knew they couldn't afford to take care of. They are so loving. Save them in the womb and let 'em die out of it!


Guardian
Comment posted February 27, 2010 @ 8:05 am

http://blackgenocide.org/sanger.html


ocsun
Comment posted February 27, 2010 @ 12:09 pm

That argument is so racist and ignorant I don't even know where to begin. I'm not sure of the actual stat but I'm positive black people aren't the only ones having abortions. I happen to know a few people who have had abortions, and none of them were black.


Patrick
Comment posted February 27, 2010 @ 4:21 pm

Blacks make up 12% of the population, but 35% of the abortions in America. That's a startling figure. You need to watch Maafa21 (link above) to understand these things.


triathlon
Comment posted February 27, 2010 @ 5:09 pm

Return of the Confederacy or the South Shall Rise Again

[Avlon Vs Triathlon]

Now, we have written in opposition against John Avlon before and we will in all likely hood do so again, Again, and AGAIN. And, who is John Avlon, he is a young writer for (http://www.TheDailyBeast.Com), and the author of several books to his own credit [Wingnuts: How the Lunatic Fringe is Hijacking America, and Independent Nation; How Centrists Can Change American Politics], having worked his way up in the New York Sun, from columnist to associate editor, which is no small achievement on his part. And, from his picture taken in New York City of course, one knows that John is a hard-core YANKEE, and from his writing we find him to be a bomb throwing Yankee, using derogatory names/ terms/ and labels to describe those with own he does not agree [Wingnuts, Lunatic Fringe, Hijacking], John is a Bill Ayers type writer quote, [I don’t regret setting bombs. I feel we didn’t do enough.], unquote, John sells books and makes a living stirring up controversy, others have done it before John and others will in the future, but in all fairness such is the way of life, everyone does it, and then denies having done it, and this is what John does, and when his writing leads as they will to a violent counter re-action, they disclaim any fault but hide behind the idea that we were just shedding like on those[Wingnut, Lunatic Fringe, Anti-Americans Hijacking our Union]. We could without doubt go back into the history just prior to the War of Secession and find another two facing off in print, in very much the same manner, with opposite views, on this very subject.

[Return of the Confederacy or the South Shall Rise Again]

Now, John takes the position as most Yankee’s do that some how the Confederacy when away, just as many taught that after the defeat of Nazis Germany that it would never return, or that after the fall of the Berlin Wall, that Communism was dead, and all these things have proven not to be the case. Now, all country and western fans, know of Charlie Daniels, or Hank Williams Jr. and their songs and each has sung The South Shall Rise Again, but the boys aren’t the only one’s if one looks up the phrase on the old computer, one will find it is used so often its more of a rising battle cry than just a phrase. John Avlon is a Yankee, has always been a Yankee, and always will be a Yankee, and can never understand, and can’t see beyond his thinly veiled HATE of the South, that Yankee’s and Confederates will never see eye to eye, and can never be one people. John fails to see the end of Empire, clinging to the idea that the Persians were wrong that [This Too Shall End], and with the end of Empire comes its total collapse, and its division, and once again we will point to facture points on the North American Continent;

[The Consequences of Empire in Decline]

Now, the whole great social experimentation started in [1776] was never going to work anyway, as was said on [1] One episode of Inspector Lewis All Men Are Created Equal and how did that work out for you, to an American Tourist, one can only guess how this is going to work out as the [18th] Century United States of America Social experiment comes too a close, as a [21st] Century American-Israeli Empire, as an intellectually, financially, morally bankrupt, militarily weak, ungovernable, unfixable, unsustainable, Empire, governed by of an oligarchy of jaded pros, permanent residents locked in the Beltway whose only movement is from Pennsylvania Avenue, when they're in office, to [K] Street, when they're out — & back. We would suggest, much as the Union of South Africa, in blood-shed, and the breaking up forming New Republic and a new map of the North American Continent;

* The Republic of Alaska

* America [The Confederate States/The United States]

* The Republic of California

* Republic of Cascadia” [Northwestern separatists envision a "Republic of Cascadia" carved out of Oregon, Washington and the Canadian province of British Columbia.]

* The Republic of Hawaii

* The Republic of Texas

* The Republic of Vermont carved out of [The New York Adirondacks, Maine, New Hampshire, and Vermont, New Hampshire.]

[History and experience are hard teachers]

Now, we can’t hold much against John Avlon, it was all pretty much his up bringing, and his schooling that made him the individual he is at this moment in time, a person of static think, [That Will Never Happen], until the day comes along that it does in fact happen and smacks him in the face , viewing the world thru a straw, looking at the lone tree, instead of the forest, showing a lack of history, and life experience beyond New York City, and NO! New York City is not a microcosm, of the world, that place does not exits, any more that the Empire is a melting pot, or All Men Are Created Equal with Certain Unalienable Rights. There are [350M] Three-Hundred and Fifty Million human being on the North American Continent, divided into [8] eight parts, John would argue [50] Fifty States not including the Territories, and the argument would just go round and round, only proving the width and breath of the divide that exists between the [8] regions of the North American Continent but their peoples. Return of the Confederacy or the South Shall Rise Again, John would say it will NEVER! Happen, we content that one should beware of using the term Never. Another writer we can’t remember who once wrote that history, and experience are hard teacher’s, and my God what hard teachers.

HERCULE TRIAHLON SAVINIEN


ocsun
Comment posted February 27, 2010 @ 8:28 pm

Well, I actually like getting my facts from a neutral, factually accurate site rather than a right-wing propaganda video and while you are close enough on the population of african americans (it's 12.8%) http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0762156.html the actual percentage of african americans getting abortions for the same year (2005) is closer to 25% (24.6%) http://www.census.gov/compendia/statab/2010/tab… and while I will concede that is a high percentage, it backs up my original point that not every woman looking to have an abortion is black. I will NOT buy into this BS that “abortion was legalized to destroy black america”. Give me a break.


anonymous
Comment posted February 28, 2010 @ 11:39 pm

Have you actually read the writings of Margaret Sanger? Do you know how many of Planned Parenthood founders were members of the American Eugenics Society? Did you know that not that long ago, a former Planned Parenthood President admitted that Planned Parenthood takes donations from people who want to limit the black race? If you bother to research your position rather than sounding unknowledgeable, view Maafa21 and see the documentation – it- PROVES that abortion targets African Americans. The producers of Maafa21 did something you have not bothered to do, they went right to the source- they researched the papers of Margaret Sanger, Planned Parenthood , and their eugenics followers, supporters, and board members. Have you done this? If you want to hear the audio, see the documents, and watch the video which undeniably proves this link, get Maafa21 . You can see a short clip of this incredibly documented film here: http://www.maafa21.com


Dan
Comment posted March 1, 2010 @ 8:03 am

Why introduce this piece as Stark “gets the Congressman to say…” ??
Franks speaks openly and honestly from the heart and brings it all up on his own because that's what he believes.


ellid
Comment posted March 2, 2010 @ 1:07 pm

Please confine your ravings to your own crappy little web site. Thank you.


ellid
Comment posted March 2, 2010 @ 1:09 pm

So? Margaret Sanger was dead the last time I looked. Black women practiced birth control and had abortions long before she lived and will do so long after racists have tried to con them into believing in a mythical conspiracy.


ellid
Comment posted March 2, 2010 @ 1:11 pm

My former husband worked as a clinic escort at Planned Parenthood in Brookline and knew some of the people that John Salvi gunned down in cold blood. I saw nothing but hatred and misogyny from the anti-abortion protesters, including the death threats received by another escort.

Anti-abortionists need to mind their own business.


triathlon
Comment posted March 2, 2010 @ 8:36 pm

ELLID SAYS:
Please confine your ravings to your own crappy little web site. Thank you.

TRIATHLON REPLY: Are you the Moderator of this or any other site, are you working for the Federal Government paid to act as an anti-first amendment, freedom of speech individual, other wise respond to the comment or the article and your personal attacks or opinons about anything got it.

HERCULE TRIATHLON SAVINIEN


ellid
Comment posted March 3, 2010 @ 10:27 pm

No, I'm simply saying that your ravings are best confined to your own crappy little web site instead of being in a thread that really doesn't have much to do with them.

Say hello to Chrononhotontholos on your way out, okay?


triathlon
Comment posted March 4, 2010 @ 3:39 pm

ELLID SAYS: No, I'm simply saying that your ravings are best confined to your own crappy little web site instead of being in a thread that really doesn't have much to do with them.

Say hello to Chrononhotontholos on your way out, okay?

TRIATHLON REPLYS: This is me pretending you're normal, I respect your opinion even though I think mine is better, your sanity is back-ordered, and my sarcasm is in unlimited supply, I never as you approach a bull from the front, a horse from the rear, or a fool by any name [Ellid] from any direction!! So don't act stupid we have politicians for that. So tell somebody that cares, you have a complaint Flag it and whine and moan to the Washington Independent Staff, maybe they care.

HERCULE TRIATHLON SAVINIEN


triathlon
Comment posted March 4, 2010 @ 8:39 pm

ELLID SAYS: No, I'm simply saying that your ravings are best confined to your own crappy little web site instead of being in a thread that really doesn't have much to do with them.

Say hello to Chrononhotontholos on your way out, okay?

TRIATHLON REPLYS: This is me pretending you're normal, I respect your opinion even though I think mine is better, your sanity is back-ordered, and my sarcasm is in unlimited supply, I never as you approach a bull from the front, a horse from the rear, or a fool by any name [Ellid] from any direction!! So don't act stupid we have politicians for that. So tell somebody that cares, you have a complaint Flag it and whine and moan to the Washington Independent Staff, maybe they care.

HERCULE TRIATHLON SAVINIEN


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I thinks it’s so appropriate that the major ad running under this video is for brain injury lawyers. hahahaha He needs it!


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