Before She Was a Truther, Debra Medina Was Worried About Brainwashing and Bilderbergers

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Friday, February 12, 2010 at 11:03 am

I’m really fascinated by the rapid rise and apparent fall of Debra Medina, the small-time Republican activist who surged into the mid-20s in her race for the GOP gubernatorial nomination in Texas, then whiffed on a chance to distance herself from 9/11 conspiracy theories in an interview with Glenn Beck. And what it suggests to me is that the Tea Party enthusiasm has elevated — temporarily, it seems — some candidates who, in previous election cycles, would have remained in obscurity and gotten some fraction of the vote without much scrutiny.

Take Adam Andrzejewski, the Illinois gubernatorial candidate who ran a pretty platitudinous campaign but aggressively sought support from Tea Party groups. Take some of the small-scale House candidates, like the three people challenging Ron Paul, who’ve gotten media attention for minor campaigning and fundraising. Or take Medina. For months, she had been courting hard-right and fringe support and doing a pretty good job. In October she appeared on Texas-based, conspiracy-minded radio host Alex Jones’s radio show, and the interview delved again and again into bizarre topics. In this clip, at 9:20, Jones rants about how law enforcement has been trained to go after patriotic Americans.

MEDINA: We’ve got a big problem in Texas. We’ve got a lot of work to do, to re-educate… I’ve seen some activity…

JONES: We’ve got Soviet brainwashing in the state police.

MEDINA: We do.

At other points in the interview (cut into four piece on YouTube), Medina complains that “Texas hasn’t lifted a finger to nullify anything under [Gov. Rick] Perry’s leadership.”

We need the Texas legislature nullifying law and we need the Texas governor interposing against federal law enforcement where it oversteps the bounds of the Constitution.

But the most revealing part of the interview might be the question posed in this clip at 8:30.

CALLER: Would she go on record saying she’s not a Bilderberg and she would not support what Rick and Kay do?

MEDINA: I think I’m on record loud and clear in lots of places all over Texas saying I’m not a Bilderberger and I in no way support Rick and Kay.

Compare that to her answer to Glenn Beck on 9/11.

I don’t have all of the evidence, there, Glenn. So I don’t… I am not in a place — I have not been out publicly questioning that. I think some very good questions have been raised in that regard. There’s some very good arguments. And I think the American people have not see all of the evidence there. So I have not taken a position on that.

I think because the mainstream media were slow to cover the Tea Parties as anything but a ridiculous joke, there’s been a lot of overcompensating that imbues these activists with fresh, bold, out-of-nowhere political tactics. But that the fact is that some people on the political fringes have made lateral moves from Alex Jones-listening or Obama birth certificate-sleuthing or Bilderberg-obsessing into the Tea Party Movement. And if Glenn Beck hadn’t decided to see how far Medina wanted to go with this, she’d be on track to get into a gubernatorial run-off. (I think Beck has threaded this needle brilliantly, obsessing over some fringe theories while ruling some, like birtherism and trutherism, totally out of bounds on his show.)

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spinnikerca
Comment posted February 12, 2010 @ 11:27 am

” I’m really fascinated by the rapid rise and apparent fall of Debra Medina…”

You mean, you are really gyrating to make such a fall occur.

Who exactly do you see as YOUR base, David?

Who do you think is in your corner on this?


rob
Comment posted February 12, 2010 @ 11:35 am

its been less than 24 hrs for crying out loud. from what i can tell – sure she has lost a few supporters who might have voted in the republican primary for her, but by making a martyr out of her she will more than likely gain more voters than she lost. now the 911 “truthers” who were voting for white will flip to medina. just try to not show arrogance too much like good ol boy michael barry did…. just remember we dont trust our govt.- for many reasons. but we do trust medina!


James Harthouse
Comment posted February 12, 2010 @ 11:36 am

Note to David Weigel:
In Glenn Beck's reprisal of French Kiss, which one is playing the Meg Ryan role?


Tracy
Comment posted February 12, 2010 @ 11:53 am

Mmm – Bilderbergers.


mepmep09
Comment posted February 12, 2010 @ 12:05 pm

OK, I'm convinced – Medina is “officially” nuts. By 'officially' I mean that I don't know whether she really believes the nutty stuff she has said, but since she said it publicly, she owns it.

Is there a Cliff Notes version out there that discusses Hannah Arendt's banality of evil? I guess folks can't handle the inherent limitations of our species' intellect and behavior, so they need to conjure up these vast, dark and dramatic international conspiracies. The inherently puny nature of humanity is simply unacceptable to them, i.e., THEY CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH, MAAAN!


gabeh73
Comment posted February 12, 2010 @ 12:06 pm

This has the tone of a smear job. She told the truth, she isn't a Bilderberger. The Bilderberg group does exist and just answering a question about it as she did with Alex Jones is nto the definition of “obsessing”. She alos doesn't believe the governemnt has been very honest and forthcoming about information related to 9/11.

This is consistent with the statements of Lee Hamilton, the chairmen of the 9/11commission! He says the commission was set up to fail! It's in his book!


mepmep09
Comment posted February 12, 2010 @ 12:07 pm

+1


Carlos
Comment posted February 12, 2010 @ 12:16 pm

I am in Dave's base. I am also am member of the Bilderberg Society and you can believe we have your eyes on you. Our people are everywhere.


chrisjay
Comment posted February 12, 2010 @ 12:18 pm

“Soviet brainwashing”
Medina had an obvious choice here to agree or disagree
Truther brigade, she had the same choice
These wingnuts seem to forget that digital media doesn't forget…
Oh, and mepmep, thanks for referencing Arendt but I think that's a little like reading Shakespeare to your beagle!


ellid
Comment posted February 12, 2010 @ 1:00 pm

The Bavarian Illuminati.


ellid
Comment posted February 12, 2010 @ 1:01 pm

With cheese.


vlad
Comment posted February 12, 2010 @ 1:16 pm

Weigel, you are such a piece of you know what. The sad thing is, we are libertarians because we see through BS. What makes you think, that because you pretend to be one of us, that we can't see through you? You are just an establishment lapdog. a very friendly F U to u, my brother…


chrisjay
Comment posted February 12, 2010 @ 1:23 pm

Yeah, Weigel & Beck—just peas in a pod
LOL!


Mark Haslett
Comment posted February 12, 2010 @ 2:04 pm

Medina “birther” comments from 2/11

http://www.publicbroadcasting.net/hppr/news.new…


bnuckols
Comment posted February 12, 2010 @ 2:09 pm

The Texas Tea Parties are not defined or led by Medina. Most of the men and women I know are good, Conservative Republicans – not Libertarian. Our local group is led by a woman who's been President of the local Federated Republican Women.


FreeTexan
Comment posted February 12, 2010 @ 2:59 pm

How can you watch the bank bailout money being handed out in secret with now accountability without thinking that there is some sort of banker conspiracy. So saying that KBH and Perry are in the bankers hip pocket isn't a stretch.


nader paul kucinich gravel
Comment posted February 12, 2010 @ 3:29 pm

Bush Family very unhappy with Glenn Beck.

Rick Perry now in deep trouble ~


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Rich
Comment posted February 12, 2010 @ 4:25 pm

Giant smears approaching a hatchet job.
Why don't you all listen to her reasonable debate and campaign statements or even the Gelnn Beck interview itself instead of relying on mental massage artists?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uacmpVKevuM&NR=1 3:52

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iq2eMIZcPy0&feat… 9:28

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Muebm-t46u0&feat… 6:48

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8j2Ov6u9e38 4:22


mantis
Comment posted February 12, 2010 @ 5:24 pm

now the 911 “truthers” who were voting for white will flip to medina.

The electoral behemoth that is the troothers will carry their crazy candidates in on a wave! Just you watch!


CallyWog
Comment posted February 12, 2010 @ 11:56 pm

I see you play the raving partisan ignoramus on message boards. May I suggest you get a hobby instead.


cooler101
Comment posted February 13, 2010 @ 12:22 am

So you are in favor of the Bilderberg group? When then should normal americans take what you write seriously!

Travel records do show Perry attended Bilderberg in the last few months.


Frank Massie
Comment posted February 13, 2010 @ 4:23 am

Dear Mr. Weigel,

You must love being a big governmet slave you dumb son of a b____.


chrisjay
Comment posted February 13, 2010 @ 5:41 pm

my feeling about people who always claim to be above partisanship can best be described by that old grade school maxim:
————–He who smelt it, dealt it


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hugh
Comment posted February 14, 2010 @ 3:06 am

I'm glad Alex Jones and Debra Medina are getting press like this – maybe some people will actually investigate the things that they're talking about on their own.
Thats all they want, look into this stuff on your own and form your own picture of whats happening in our government.

If enough people do that and actually use their own mind, instead of of just mindlessly accepting what they see on mainstream media – I think Medina could get elected.

It's funny, this Weigel guy is basically saying it's not ok to ever question your government. -It didn't used to be that way, back in the founder's days they encouraged that so GOVERNMENT DIDN'T GET TO POWERFUL.

But yeah, even though this article is slanderous, I think it's a good thing that it's here – people are starting to wake up to the fact that the US Government haven't
been the good guys for a long time now, and if you don't like what Jones or Medina are saying, THAN BY ALL MEANS, DE-BUNK THEM!! Investigate it to your fullest capacity! Do it yourself! Come to your own conclusion!


JohnC
Comment posted February 16, 2010 @ 7:39 pm

“if you don't like what Jones or Medina are saying, THAN BY ALL MEANS, DE-BUNK THEM!!”

It's not that I don't like what they're saying.

It's that what they're saying is patently ridiculous.

It's not up to us to debunk their theories. It's up to them to offer substantive evidence to support their outrageous claims.

Playing victim because you don't like what is being said about the sanity of Medina and Jones isn't going to convince anybody that Medina and Jones are right.


Name
Comment posted February 17, 2010 @ 4:37 pm

Nothing to see here..listen to the government and media's talking heads that the same people that have ruled for 10 and 20 years , brought the country to its financial knees are going to somehow fix everything now. You can belive that and the tooth fairy. Vote'em out!


Irememberwaco
Comment posted February 21, 2010 @ 9:01 pm

Check out Jesse Ventura regarding 9/11 on youtube. What's your opinion of Jesse's opinions?


Ted
Comment posted February 24, 2010 @ 10:38 pm

The reason the caller asked the question is because Perry attended the 2007 meeting of the Bilderberg Group in Istanbul, Turkey. It was relevant. Your article is already outdated though. Alex Jones has dropped his support for Medina. In her interview with Mark Davis she agreed that “Truthers” were a despicible paranoid cult. This infuriated Jones and he is calling her a flip flopper, and has dropped his support in lieu of an apology.


Ted
Comment posted February 25, 2010 @ 3:38 am

The reason the caller asked the question is because Perry attended the 2007 meeting of the Bilderberg Group in Istanbul, Turkey. It was relevant. Your article is already outdated though. Alex Jones has dropped his support for Medina. In her interview with Mark Davis she agreed that “Truthers” were a despicible paranoid cult. This infuriated Jones and he is calling her a flip flopper, and has dropped his support in lieu of an apology.


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Comment posted June 2, 2010 @ 7:02 am

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