Race and James O’Keefe

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Sure, those tactics *could be* applied against them, as well as by them. But won't be; Dems are not very good at pushing the guilt by association angle. Also, Dems have a very low boredom threshold; they're most unlikely to repeat the same thing, in exactly the same words, over and over and over again, until it sinks in as The Truth.

If there's one person who's less credible than Weigel, it's Max Blumenthal. See the link for the details.

Sorry, champ, but no cookie for you. Troll for web hits elsewhere.

It makes a connection that liberals have had trouble making, between the right’s attacks on ACORN and the organization’s work registering poor, mostly non-white voters.

The connection is blatantly obvious.
ACORN has become a surrogate for racial terms that are too offensive for even conservatives dismiss with condescending references to “political correctness” and “liberal guilt.”
Going after ACORN is of a piece with Rove's caging list strategy of disenfranchising non-whites (think voter roll purges in Florida prior to the 2000 election, and more elsewhere).

Oddly enough, the comment from “Tracy” coincides with a visit to the MB link from an “edit-comments.php” page at this site, with an IP apparently located in Hanover, MD. Could TWI moderators be leaving nastygrams on comments they don't like?

Heh. That's a beautiful Web site you've got there, anonymous, cowardly hiding crazy person. Just elegant design, really. Oh, and I see you're a birther, too.

Seriously, ever noticed that right-wingers have the ugliest Web sites? And the crazier they are, the more hideous the site.

Wrong on all counts, little man.

keep up the great work, Dave, these people need to be exposed.

Er, um, shouldn't you have to provide actual proof when you're accusing someone of being a racist?

This post reads like a Charles Johnson style defamation. I can't prove that O'Keefe is not a racist (I can't prove that David Weigel isn't a racist, either), but I see no real evidence here, just a desperate attempt to take down someone Weigel dislikes with an ism.

I actually have basis to consider Barack Obama a racist, given the fact he attended a filthy racist church for 20 years and considered its filthy racist pastor his friend and mentor.

In other words, can the tactics conservatives used to attack Safe Schools Czar Kevin Jennings or Green Jobs Czar Van Jones–digging into their associations, reporting that they attended scary-sounding events, finding out-of-context, radical-sounding quotes from their earlier careers–be used against conservative activists?

Interesting post, but both these people were brought down by stuff they did once they'd started their professional careers, not college activism that they thought no one would notice.

Oh also WTF, on what grounds did the FBI seize this person's photos?

So, you are saying he has done nothing…..but Olberman, Shuster and LGF will push that he has. great.

Thanks, looks that way to me too.

Have you redesigned your web site to be navigable yet? Last time I was stupid enough to click I thought I'd landed on one of those horrendous Angelfire memorials to dead premature infants that look unfortunately like California raisins. And the content – !

The more you see of right-wing nutcase websites, the more it makes you glad you're not one of them.

Seen the hate blogs yet? There's some really wacked out thinking going on. And the language! TWI is tame, by comparison.

The closest I can come to a definition is sedition and insurrectionist ideology, all under the guise of “we're red-blooded Americans!” Who do they think they're kidding?

O'Keefe is an American hero right up there with George Franklin and Benjamin Washington.

He's a lot of things, but he is not anonymous. His name is Chris Kelly.

“I don't like Democrats, therefore James O'Keefe can't be racist”.
Its clear that this young man and his supporters see him simply as someone who is attacking hypocrisy, which he may do now and again. However, his supporters and probably even himself fail to recognize that he can do this and be a racist at the same time, and I'm sorry but the messenger does matter.

“…can the tactics conservatives used …digging into their associations, reporting that they attended scary-sounding events, finding out-of-context, radical-sounding quotes from their earlier careers–be used against conservative activists?”

maybe. maybe context means more. the revelation of van jones' belief in “bush did it” 911 conspiracy theories came in the midst of a progressive pr efforts to portray the belief of a segment of the right that there's something fishy about obama's birth certificate as a form of ninsanity unique to the right. that's where the political force of it came from. with jennings, well, saying creepy things about children and sex will always strike the ear as creepy.

when it comes to race, however, people tend to have different views as to what is beyond the pale and who has the authority to set those boundaries. for most people, i'd say, a progressive's assessment of x person or x event as “racist” is greeted with skepticism, if not dismissal.

for instance, max blumenthal's tendentious aspersion that opposition to acorn is, at root, related to acorn's “work in service of poor people of color” lays there unsupported by anything. it has currency only with those who share his presumed insight into what people with whom he disagrees “really think”.

most people, including people who observe events closely enough to hear the charge but who are not necessarily jealously aligned themselves, would have assumed that conservatives' interest in dishing dirt on acorn is responsive to the fact that acorn workers were found to have issued hundreds of false voter registrations, and thus screeching about acorn is a bit of sauce for the progressive left which, to this day, endorses bizarre conspiracy theories about diebold rigging electronic voting machines to favor bush in 2000 and 2004.

they might assume that conservative opposition to acorn is responsive to the progressive identity of acorn and it's (white, incidentally) former sds activist founder, wade rathke. they might additionally be aware that acorn's conduct, though it portrays itself as dedicated to serve poor people of color, is often a material disservice to poor people of color. for instance, when they headed the crusade to prevent a walmart from opening on the south side of chicago which would have brought jobs and produce to “urban desserts” which are over-served by liquor stores. acorn's (ultimately unsuccessful) conduct in blocking walmart from opening it's locations served the white union establishment and white northside latte liberals who have a class-cultural preference for kitchy little boutique retailers, and forsook the concerns of poor people of color.

yet throughout, acorn was able to play the race card, arguing that their cause was poor people of color. this ability is rooted in nothing more substantial than a jealously enforced axiom: the left is for poor people of color, non-left ideas support white supremacism to one extent or another. most people recognize the toxic speciousness of that sort of claim.

so, when the one people's project (a silly dc-based maoist/anarchist outfit looking for something to do now that bill white is in jail) says that x is a bona fide neo-nazi because they appeared in the same hotel reception hall with y who is connected to z, you can expect the charge to lay inert in the minds of whoever hears it until they've personally taken a look into x, y AND z and made their own assessment as to whether any or all of them is in fact “racist” in any meaningful sense.

as it is, it seems that o'keefe is guilty of sitting at a literature table at a conference which pitted a white nationalist against a black conservative and a conservative skeptic of racialism and proposed to discuss whether, not even how, conservatives should discuss race. we can assume that the conference topic was so formulated as a reflection of how successfully bullying the left has been in enforcing the axiom that you are either a leftist or a racist and that all other political ideas and identities are mere code for white supremacism; codes which are invisible to those with correct vision.

whether it is a long discursive essay about how positive rights and race or progressives' revealing knee-jerk perception of a “dogwhistle” about miscegenation (?!) in a republican campaign ad, the overall effect is that, when a progressive opens his mouth about race, he is assumed to be revealing more of his own anxieties than his opponents'.

“…strategy of disenfranchising non-whites (think voter roll purges in Florida prior to the 2000 election…)”

a lie.

it was, at the time, illegal for a convicted felon to vote in florida. florida contracted an independent accounting agency to audit and remove felons from the voter rolls. a number names were removed in error. because of these errors, the names were reinstated prior to the election. a subsequent statistical study revealed that an individual who was removed from the rolls in error was more 9% more likely to be white than black.

there was no purge, much less a “racist” one. and that's one example of why people roll their eyes and direct their attention elsewhere when a progressive opens his mouth about race.

Can I get a cite on that subsequent study plse? Thanks.

ems are so skillful at pushing “guilt by association” that they've taken the style of argument to a who new level of abstraction. while they were feigning moral shock at the tactic when conservatives were speaking of president obama's actual, substantial, first-person political association of choice with the domestic terrorist, william ayers, progressives were promoting palin's supposed guilt by association to things some people heard (others didn't) yelled by anonymous crowd members at places where she was speaking. this guilt-by-association-with-things-shouted-anonymously-100-yards-away was tried last week with scott brown (in conjunction with that other tactic progressives weild masterfully, the knowingly false misrepresentation). later, progressives went further with palin, charging her with guilt by association twice removed to a ghost-writer's association with some guy who wrote some stuff pseudononymously on a listserv a decade and a half earlier.

none of these is as abstract as the charge that reagan is proven guilty of racism for speaking at a county faire in a blue county by association to a murder which occurred twenty miles away and sixteen years earlier.

i'd say progressives are pros at it.

i'm not ignoring your request, just digging for it. as you can imagine, the google searches are dominated by headlines like “the stolen election of 2000″ and “the new face of jim crow”.

David,
How about some REAL journalism here. comrade?
Have you bothered to call James? How about anyone else involved? Or maybe you just found the whole thing to delicious to perform even the most rudimentary fact-check.
It says a lot more about your integrity than it does about O'Keefe that you'd resort to writing and spreading fertilizer like this.

Yes, I did fear you would ask me to do my own research – I knew that would be a can o worms & a half. Bless you & good luck. You have a better chance than me, having found it once before, evidently.

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“A related story that hasn’t really been written is the acceptance of really extreme racial theorizing — some would just call it racism — among a small segment of the campus conservative movement.”

That strikes me as rather delusional. Is Mr. Weigel really under the impression that “extreme racial theorizing” on campus is the sole province of conservatives? Is he honestly unfamiliar with the well-establshed racial-grievance industry on campus featuring endowed chairs of “black studies” and so forth?

If he is under that impression I suggest that he rectify it ASAP.

You somehow neglected to mention that Marcus Epstein is half Jewish and half Korean. I guess that tends to undermine the whole white-supremacist narrative.

“Extremism — theories about race, right-wing European politics, anti-immigration rhetoric — is seen in these circles as something of a lark.”

You don't offer any specifics here, But I'm familar with your writings, and the person with “extremist” views on immigration is named David Weigel.

“for instance, max blumenthal's tendentious aspersion that opposition to acorn is, at root, related to acorn's “work in service of poor people of color” lays there unsupported by anything. it has currency only with those who share his presumed insight into what people with whom he disagrees “really think”. “

Why go after ACORN. An organization that helps poor people yet in the same breath Republicans will defend Halliburton.

Remember when they got all the non bid contracts then moved their headquarters so they would not have to pay taxes.

Going after ACORN just doesn't seem right when their so many other big fish to fry.

Just goes to show you how the GOP operates.

Cheney's former company which received Billions in contracts can do no wrong as they open the back of the truck up and rob us but the non profit that assist poor people is the biggest threat to our nation.

We look at you guys and wonder what the hell is wrong with you.

We think it must be race. Or we are using that as your excuse when your really just bat #hit crazy.

You guys did vote for Bush twice.

Now if you voted for Mcain/Palin after Bush you are just insane.

I learned absolutely nothing from this blustery piece of blogfoolery. It is entitled “Race and James O'Keefe” yet it only talks about TALKING about race and James O'Keefe. Where's the beef? You must be a vegetarian. ;)

So opposition to ACORN is not merely racist, but also supportive of the scary-sounding Halliburton? That portion of Halllibuton you're crowing about is today known as KBR, and is also used by the vicious, right-wing, war-mongering administration of Barack Obama. Moron.

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/kbr_w…

Talking points often have only the merest kernel of truth. The rest of the story is that no other company does what KBR does, then and now, which is why the current administration uses them to the same extent and in the same way as the previous one, even for new contracts. Nor does this silly 'Dick Cheney/Darth Vader/Halliburton/Evil Empire' concoction have anything to do with the points made by jummy. Rather than dishonest misdirection, why not try factual arguments?

So opposition to ACORN is not merely racist, but also supportive of the scary-sounding Halliburton? That portion of Halllibuton you're crowing about is today known as KBR, and is also used by the vicious, right-wing, war-mongering administration of Barack Obama. Moron.

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/kbr_w…

Talking points often have only the merest kernel of truth. The rest of the story is that no other company does what KBR does, then and now, which is why the current administration uses them to the same extent and in the same way as the previous one, even for new contracts. Nor does this silly 'Dick Cheney/Darth Vader/Halliburton/Evil Empire' concoction have anything to do with the points made by jummy. Rather than dishonest misdirection, why not try factual arguments?

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