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Hey birfers…..Come out and plaaayyayy.

I grew up in OC—never, ever underestimate the region's capability for cultivating world-class bizarre-o's.
Read Blumenthal's book Republican Gomorrah for fascinating OC contributions to the modern rightwing clusterf**k

Seems Orly's going to be doing the “Taiga Two-Step” trying to explain this to her hubby. Judging by the latest, she's also making a run for Sarah Palin's mantle.
Wow. Now Sarah will have a reverse negative of herself running around, putting words in her mouth. If that's the case, though, maybe Sarah will start making sense. She'll still be a liar, though.

Hello David Wiegel,

Have you had a chance to talk to Janice Okubo, or Dr. Fukino? One of the Obama supporters mentioned it in a post on another thread.

What do they say about COLB – was it issued to Obama on June 6, 2007?

Where can we find the information on the meaning of phrases: “Filed by Registrar” (shown on image of Obama's COLB) and “Accepted by State Registrar” (also used on Hawaii COLBs)?

Why is DoH hiding trivial data from public? If Obama was born in Hawaii (Kapiolani Hospital) as he claims, there would be no need for secrecy from DoH.

NC, why are you asking Weigel? I think you should be asking Palin.
Matter of fact, I hope you start asking these questions of her aggressively & publicly—ideally, in 2012, just as her presidential bid is ambling down the runway, attempting to acquire some airspeed: it is going to be extremely entertaining to watch her trying to appeal to the mainstream without offending the likes of you, NC, you are her TRUE base—–so DO NOT give up!

You have to have two parents who are citizens and be born on U.S. soil to be president.

One of the Obots wrote on this web site that Weigel talked to Okubo. I do not remember seeing any articles about it.

As a representative of an “independent” media site it would be interesting to see that Weigel asks Obama supporters few simple questions about the birth certificate.

If Obama continues with his push towards a socialism while spending more time on golf course and beach than Bush did I am looking forward to 2010 and 2012 elections.

Where exactly does it say that in the Constitution?

It doesn't. He's parroting one of Orly Taitz's most ridiculous justifications for wasting the Court's time and fomenting rebellion against a legally elected President.

The President's birth certificate was released over a year ago, so why beat a dead horse? Charles Lincoln's purple prose about his “blue blooded” dentist/real estate agent/attorney paramour is far more entertaining.

Hey, naturalized,

If you wanted to be taken seriously anywhere else, you never should have started on this one……

Stupid is as stupid does, and I'll point that out wherever you go.

No, you don't. And repeating your OCD inspired drivel won't make it magically true.

http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/category/citizen…

Not to mention the fact that you are completely disconnected from an EXTREMELY obvious reality.

Idiot.

Made up out of whole cloth by Birfers, yet they repeat and repeat and repeat.

I see that you keep repeating the lie about birth certificate.

Can we post a document on a friendly web site as a proof of eligibility for a job and be taken seriously by any government agency?

Are you Weigel's spokesperson?

Where is the original birth certificate? It should be trivial for a person who claims Hawaii as his birthplace to produce a document similar to those published for Nordyke twins.

What is even worse, the DoH would not confirm that COLB was issued to Obama on June 6, 2007.

It's none of your business where the original birth certificate is. I never saw any president's original birth certificate to prove his eligibility. Did you?

“It’s crazy,” said Janice Okubo, director of communications for the Hawaii Department of Health. “I don’t think anything is ever going to satisfy them.”

Okubo, who said that she gets weekly questions from Obama ‘Birthers’ that are “more like threats,” explained that the certificate of live birth reproduced by Obama’s campaign should have debunked the conspiracy theories. “If you were born in Bali, for example,” Okubo explained, “you could get a certificate from the state of Hawaii saying you were born in Bali. You could not get a certificate saying you were born in Honolulu. The state has to verify a fact like that for it to appear on the certificate. But it’s become very clear that it doesn’t matter what I say. The people who are questioning this bring up all these implausible scenarios. What if the physician lied? What if the state lied? It’s just become an urban legend at this point.”

‘Birther’ Movement Dogs Republicans, 7/17/09

We all saw McCain's detailed birth certificate indicating birth in a Panama Hospital.

As for other presidential candidates in the recent past – nobody has ever reported their birth in three different countries and two different US hospitals.

Could you consider it as a reason why there was no media interest in asking the question in the past?

It is obvious that something is not right in the official Obama birthplace story. Otherwise there would be no confusion about it. Left wing media sources would have reported the same birthplace. Even they missed it, the question is why?
Why did Obama claim Kapiolani as his birthplace only after winning elections? Before January 2009 the official birthplace was Queens hospital.

In his book Obama claimed to have possession of the original birth certificate. That is not the document presented to the public. The question is whether it ever existed or was it invented as many other things in his book.

Okubo could answer a simple question yet she refuses to do so: Did DoH issue COLB to Obama on June 6, 2007?

She also refuses to answer a simple question on where to find information on the meaning of phrases “Filed By Registrar” and Accepted by State registrar” used on Hawaii COLBs.

In another state (Nevada) these two phrases have different meaning and the one used on Obama's COLB would indicate a lack of proof in the original birth registration.

Does Hawaii use similar language as Nevada? Why is it a secret? If Obama was born in Hawaii there would be no need to keep this information hidden from public.

Ignore the troll.

The idiot is brain damaged, paranoid beyond repair and completely full of shit.

More on the controversy of McCain's birth (not that it matters):
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/ar…

“Curiously enough, there is no record of McCain's birth in the Panama Canal Zone Health Department's bound birth registers, which are publicly available at the National Archives in College Park. A search of the “Child Born Abroad” records of the U.S. consular service for August 1936 included many U.S. citizens born in the Canal Zone but did not turn up any mention of John McCain.”

Birthers are brain damaged, paranoid, lying idiots as shown in these threads.

McCain showed his birth certificate to a Washington Post reporter. Obama showed his birth certificate to FactCheck after a National Review reporter asked about it. I fail to see the difference except Obama went one step further and posted it online. The only criteria any president has to meet relates to age, residence and place of birth. The certificate Obama provided and showed to whoever wanted to look at it is every bit as legally valid for that purpose as the certificate McCain showed to a reporter. What hospital he was born in is irrelevant to his eligibility. Now, I understand you WANT to see more, but he is under no obligation to please you by satisfying your curiosity.

The question is, Are you Orly's?

Prove that Okubo refuses to answer the question. Prove to me that she hasn't already answered the question. I don't believe a single thing that comes from you, so let's see some evidence—and don't direct me to a Birftard website; I won't click onto scuzzy, sleazy politi-porn sites on your say so.

It would be easy to verify whether Obama told the truth: Let the DoH confirm that COLB was issued to Obama on June 6, 2007. They are silent when asked about it.

What is there to hide?

Let us together ask Weigel to have an interview with Okubo and ask her questions presented on this blog.

McCain was born in the Colon Hospital outside the Canal Zone. As a person born outside the US he is not a natural born citizen – thus not eligible to run for POTUS.

Why is it that Washington Post did not investigate the birth index for August 4, 1961 in Hawaii? Are they afraid of the possibility that Obama's name would not be on the list?

Hi, Gunny! Or is it Palin4Prez this time? Or Keyes4Prez? Why so many handles? What are YOU hiding?

First, you're wrong about McCain not being natural born.

Second, there was no need to investigate Obama's birth certificate because he released it. It clearly shows that he was born in Honolulu, which is American soil, and thus is natural born.

When are you going to answer my question as to why you're regurgitating the discredited legalisms of an adulteress?

Obama did NOT claim to be born in three different countries. You are lying.

Nothing, which is why Dr. Chiyome Fukino confirmed the accuracy of the birth certificate last summer. Considering that she's the head of the Hawaii Department of Health, that settles it.

As for you, please explain why you support the discredited and inaccurate legal theories of an adulteress who is such a bad lawyer that even her ex-boyfriend denounces her as incompetent.

Why are you still supporting Orly Taitz's discredited legal theories? The woman is of low moral character, has been sued repeatedly for incompetent dental work, and foments insurrection.

Unfortunately, NC's English is so poor s/he/it can't comprehend that Drs. Fukino and Okubo HAVE repeatedly confirmed that the President was born in Hawaii and that his birth certificate is valid. It would be very sad if NC weren't deliberately and willfully ignorant.

COLB image posted on the web is not the same as “proof”. Try using the same method when government agency asks you for any document and see how far will you get with them.

Orly's behavior has nothing to do with Obama's eligibility. If she was engaged in a relationship outside her marriage it is up to parties involved to resolve the issue. I could care less.

Do you support double standard when it comes to the private issues of individuals? Should we care about private lives of Obama supporters?

No I am not her spokesperson. I could care less about her private life. The important story here is Obama's eligibility and lack of evidence supporting the Hawaii as his birth place.

Weigel is providing a cover for the Usurper-in-chief. The best defence of Obama would be the original birth certificate issued by the state of Hawaii, there would be no need to attack those questioning him.

Washington “Independent”, LOL!!!

Already done, unlike your answer to my question about why you defend the legal theories of an adulteress.

Could you parse the first press release from Dr. Fukino (from October 2008) and tell us what it means. Why was it issued?

My understanding is that she wanted us to believe that Obama was born in Hawaii without going on a limb and actually saying it in a simple statement.

Once we parse her first press-release the second one will be much easier to understand.

Show me one link where Dr Fukino or Janice Okubo confirmed that COLB was issued to Obama on June 6, 2007. They have never issued a statement saying that his original birth certificate indicates birth in Hawaii.

I've used the Pennsylvania equivalent to obtain employment, a passport, and a driver's license.

Why don't you just admit that Orly Taitz is a liar, a cheat, and a bad lawyer and give up? You're wrong, and that will not change.

Once the original Birth Certificate Obama mentions “looking at” on page 26 of “Dreams of My Father” and the college records are released those crazy berftards won't really have much of anything left to base their claims on.

Did you post your COLB on the web or did you have to present a physical copy to the government agency?

Obama has not presented the COLB copy to anyone except Joe Miller from factcheck.org.
He could have presented a physical copy to judge Carter when his lawyers asked for the case to be dismissed.

The same attributes you said about Orly we could apply to an Obama supporter – would it make Obama's eligibility case more or less believable? It is irrelevant.
Orly was not the first person to ask the eligibility question and she is not the only one.

Obama's birth was reported in three different countries and two different US hospitals.

It is obvious that some reporters got it wrong. The question is – who was wrong?

Dr Fukino never said that the original birth certificate confirms Obama's birth in Hawaii.

She could have used the resolution by the Congress as a cover for her statement.

If there was nothing to hide the DoH would have confirmed that they issued a COLB to Obama on June 6, 2007. Yet they refuse to do it.

Orly is not the only person questioning Obama's eligibility. Her private life has nothing to do with this issue. She does not have the exclusive rights to this story.

If we wanted to apply your logic, could we ask about Larry Sinclair and his claims about Obama's private life. Does it have to do anything with Obama's eligibility for office?

Could you provide a link to the story to support your claim?

As far as I know no journalist asked DoH about COLB verification and wrote an article about it.

Yap, Yap, Yap. Hey, NC/bug/birfer,

I reply just for you- I know it probably won't do any good though, but maybe a shred of sanity will creep through just this once.

Just for you. No.

Just like with this crap, I don't expect you to accept that either, but at least you're where you belong, now.

Welcome back! we miss you.

I do not remember having any debates with the monkey99.

Did you use another ID in the past?

Barack Hussein Obama aka Barry Soetoro has spent in excess of $1.8 million to defend lawsuits regarding his eligibility under the United States Constitution.
Bauer’s client Barack Hussein Obama aka Barry Soetoro might like to explain why he claims to have his original Birth Certificate. As mentioned in “Dreams of My Father” he claims finding his birth certificate. On Page 26 of “Dreams of My Father”, Obama writes:
“I discovered this article, folded away among my birth certificate and old vaccination forms, when I was in high school,”
While this brief quote does not state WHAT article it is that Obama found, it does mention that he found it WITH his BIRTH CERTIFICATE. This would have been in the mid 70’s, so this birth certificate would not have been a computer generated document. So where is this original?
The forged COLB versions posted on the Fight the Smears and FactCheck web-sites are in no way what Barack Hussein Obama claimed to discover in that box, along with his vaccination forms. [Which by the way, I still have mine, along with my other documents that have been posted in my video’s on Youtube].
As Alan Keyes stated on CNN, segment included in my ‘Media and the Birthers Pt1 video, Barack Hussein Obama and legal crew are directing you to a photograph on the internet and hearsay statements that would not be accepted as evidence in any court of law.

HAHA! You don't debate, you spout noise that's been verified, over and over and over again.
Debate is a foreign concept to you.
I notice other birfers are GONE. You happen to be the only one left.

You are correct – it is not possible to have a debate with a monkey.

Hey, NC/Bug/birfer,

This monkey's still got you by the short hairs. Along with all these other sane, decent, intelligent people.
You keep coming back, like a dog to it's own vomit. That's why we love you! You're comedy relief! You're the only one left. What's it like, being an endangered species?

You are not interested in sane, decent and intelligent discussion. The language used in your posts reflects poorly on your parents and their influence on your manners when communicating with others.

Your posts and screen name do not reflect a sofisticated person – you sound more like a yard bully. If you behave the same way in person you'll never get ahead in life.

Check the polls on how many US citizens believe that Obama was not born in the USA. You would be surprised with the number.

Add hypocracy to your list, bug.

You also use epithets to describe folk, so I wouldn't be so quick to pass judgement in that regard.

Leave parents out of this, unless you would like me to unleash the full fury of possibilities. You “people”, like Taitz, just can't accept reality. and
s don't make me laugh any harder than I already am about the delusional nature of your demands. Yes, demands. they have moved from the realm of requests months ago. That you can't tell the difference isn't my fault.

My screen name comes from my 11 year old niece. You want to insult her, too? Tsk.

Polls? who needs polls. YOU are the only one still dragging around the corpse of your argument. Lou Dobbs got lost in the ratings because of this silly belief. He still around? Most of the other “famous” birfers are shutting up, because the issue is too old for them to want to continue, and they don't want to appear like fools, which I suppose doesn't bother you, apparently.

By the way, I'm retired at 50, enjoying life the way I envisioned. Can you say the same?

You invite ridicule. Practically beg for it. If you go back to your own posts, from waaay back, (yes, I have been here, just because I don't post doesn't mean I'm not paying attention) you'll see the stubborn nature of your “argument”, so don't preach to me, or anyone else about civility.

Look up the word “debate”. you will see that you haven't followed the definition since this all started. You can ask those here, whether I'm wrong or not. many are still here, just like you, from the beginning.

So get off your high horse, your platitudes just don't scan. If you REALLY want debate, YOU give a little. You expect us all to entertain the idea, but you don't follow through.

It doesn't “eat at” me that Obama is almost half-black. We are long overdue for an ethnic minority president. In fact I was proud of my country when the formerly pro-slavery party of Klansman Byrd & Al Gore's father made Obama the Democratic nominee. I once voted for a blackman, Alan Keyes, for president and would have gladly voted for Colin Powell or Condi Rice if they got the GOP nomination.
It doesn't eat at me that BHO was elected in large part to voter fraud. FDR & JFK benefited from voter fraud as well. And it really doesn't eat at me that Obama is a Moslem and a socialist. Our First Amendement gives us all Freedom OF Religion and I suffered through eight years of that liberal draft-dodger Clinton.
The thing that eats at me is that former ambassador and presidential candidate Alan Keyes is called “crazy” and “a sore loser” for simply pointing out the fact that Obama is not a natural-born U.S. citizen and therefore ineligible to even run for president. Keyes has no reason to lie about this and has a reputation of honesty. Obama(if that is his real name) is a known liar and has all the reason in the world to conceal his true citizenship.
I expect Democrats to go along with this facade but am very disappointed in congressional Republicans for not making hay of this issue. Thank God there are selfless people like Phillip Berg, Orly Taitz, and many others who will continue to press for the truth. The original Birth Certificate and release of Obama's college records would put a halt to birther's claims.

Hi there, BillyBob! Why so many handles? Are you afraid that you'll look like you're spamming the board if you post all this nonsense under one name?

Hi, Palin4Prez! Why are posting the same discredited junk that RedGraham/GunnyRed/Drooling Old Bastard did? Why all the named?

You know, it's cheating to post one thing, log out, and then log in as someone else to hit “like” on your own posts. Why are you doing it?

Orly Taitz's private life is relevant because it shows that she's a liar in her private life. It also shows that her own lover thinks she's a terrible lawyer.

As for “caring about the private lives of Obama supporters,” the birther movement seems to delight in smearing the honesty and integrity of the Hawaiian government and its REPUBLICAN officials, not to mention the reputation of Stanley Dunham, who is dead and cannot defend herself.

So again, answer the question: why do you persist in parroting the legal theories of a bad attorney and adulteress?

You are lying.

Wrong in every particular.

Answer the question about why you believe the unsupported word of a liar, adulteress and bad attorney over the official declaration of the state of Hawaii.

No, you're only willing to believe this lying incompetent over the state of Hawaii.

Also, you're still misusing “usurper.” Go take English lessons, talk to a law professor, and kindly find another hobby. You are ignorant and very silly, and as always, wrong.

*holds up mirror*

The birth certificate was released over a year ago. The President was born in Hawaii. You are an ignoramus, and you seem to revel in it.

Give it up. The President isn’t going anywhere.

*applause*

the public face of Birferism is Orly, whether you like it or not, NC—-and she happens to come off as loony AND unethical. I certainly understand why you'd want us to stop laughing at her: she's your QUEEN!!!!!!

Weigel is providing a forum for you to keep your cause alive and I love it! I hope this lasts 'til 2012 so that we can tar whichever rightwing cretin who runs for pres with either associating w/you or denouncing you: win –win for us, LOL
Keep up the good work, Birfer!

There are 12 more people who are disappointed that Keyes is too big of an idiot to hold office. Keyes abstained.

Don't you get tired of people laughing at you?

“I could care less” means you care.
You have a serious problem with logic, language and reality.

You do know you're going to die?

Yes, you are a pathetic liar.

Your true motivations ooze out. Bush holds the record for vacation time beating Reagan.

“sofisticated”

Brilliant irony.

“sofisticated”

Brilliant irony.

“sofisticated”

Brilliant irony.

Alphabet boy,

Why go on? the demand you make has already been resolved. Again, and again, and again.
You go under so many monikers, your “arguments” have made you anathema to anyone who can readily see the baselessness of them. At this point, your question will NEVER be answered, because you refuse to accept that it already has. Why go on?
Ol' Orly has made herself a laughingstock to the nation, repeatedly, and you should have gotten the message loud and clear, when the first forgery was exposed. Worse still, she kept on pumping them out. What makes us all laugh is you question the veracity of Obama's citizenship, using crap created by someone who wasn't even born here. Ever ask yourself why she has so much enmity toward the Office of the President? This has gone well past Obama.
She muddies debate, because you people don't want that. You want irrefutable proof that has already been supplied. Obama is a liar? could be…he's a politician, after all, but what about your precious Orly? Liar central, there. And you can add forger and philanderer to the list, too.
Why go on?
You talk like an extremist. go on other blogs and present your arguments there. See how much traction you get. Just like Keyes.
Drop this ridiculous ADHD act, and get with actual, sustantive debate. Otherwise, you richly deserve the derision you receive.
Why go on?

How appropriate, using the little niece defense for a childish screen name.

Maybe it is time for you to read her the “Emperor’s New Clothes” story – it might be a useful one for the uncle too.

Obama could end the debate about his birthplace in an instant. Nothing prevents him from releasing the original birth certificate. The election is over long time ago. What is so secretive about his original birth certificate. He would not have lied to us about it, would he?

I am simply following the guideline described in a funny episode about former president Bush:
“…fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can’t get fooled again.”

We have been told about WMDs in Iraq and an imminent danger they pose to us. Government officials had been parroting it based on faulty intelligence reports.

Why should we put ourselves in the same position to be fooled twice, three times,…?

When there is a simple way to verify whether government officials are telling the truth, we should demand it.

Convoluted ways of persuading the public that something is true, while avoiding the simple way of verifying it, does not cut it for me.

I will take the words of government officials for granted only when there is no alternative.

Happy New Year.

Welcome to the world of civil discourse! I wouldn’t expect you to agree on every single aspect of my previous reply, but this is a good start.
This thread is compressing pretty rapidly…..can I suggest we meet somewhere else? You choose. I’ll meet you there. Just please, no more on birtherism, I can see it goes nowhere. Let me know.

By the way, for your info….It is my niece’s choice. I have another I use elsewhere.

I think I read this exact same comment some where else.

When Chester B. Author was born his fathers wasn't a citizen of America. He did however become a citizen when his son was about 14 years old. This can be referred to as a precedent.

Question for you RedGraham. Why has there been absolutely no legal action against Obama by state or federal agencies? The answer is there is no reason to.

The inconsistent arguments that some enter into to try to explain away Obama as being an natural born citizen gets more complicated. It all ends up being contradictory and illogical.

It is birthers lack understand the implications of their conspiracy theory that makes them crazy. The are not in essence crazy but their belief on this particular issue makes them appears as being crazy.

Of course you've read it before. RedGraham posts the same discredited talking points under about twenty different handles.

And all of them are RedGraham/BillyBob/RPaulMd/Gunnyred…..

If your English is so bad you can’t understand that both Dr. Fukino and Dr. Okubo confirmed the President’s birth in Hawaii, then you need to consult an English teacher. Otherwise, kindly shut up about things you clearly do not understand.

However, that is not the problem. The problem is that the comments are so silly that it take all but 30 seconds to discredit them. With most of that time used to verify the rebuttals.

HRC didn't find that in the Constitution: he actually got it from “THE LARGE BOOKS OF FACTS I PULLED OUTTA MY ASS”.

It isn't in the Constitution. The only thing that the constitution states is that the person must be a natural born citizen. However, they seem to be engaging in word play or just don't understand English. The reference to both parents are only for those not born on American soil, such as children of military personnel, or embassy staff. It is more about confusing those who are not a independently thinking as them.

Barack Obama’s Selective Service registration card and accompanying documents show that questions about him are not only NOT over, but if the signature on the document is in fact his, our Commander-in-Chief may have committed a federal crime in 2008, well within the statute of limitations on the matter. If it is not his, then it’s proof positive that our next Commander-in-Chief never registered with the Selective Service as required by law. By law, he was required to register and was legally able to do so until the age of 26.
But the Selective Service System registration (”SSS Form 1″) and accompanying computer print-out (”SSS Print-out), below, released by the Selective Service show the oddities and irregularities, all of which indicate the document was created in 2008 and backdated.

In Obama’s home state, Illinois, Private Investigator Sankey tracked down 16 different addresses for a Barack Obama or a Barack H. Obama, of which all are addresses he was known to have lived at. Two Social Security numbers appear for these addresses, one beginning with 042 and one starting 364.
In California, where Obama attended Occidental College, there are six addresses listed for him, all within easy driving distance of the college. However, there are three Social Security numbers connected to these addresses, 537 and two others, each beginning with 999.
There are no addresses listed in New York where he attended Columbia University, but there is one listed for him in nearby Jackson, NJ, with a Social Security number beginning with 485.
In Massachusetts – where Obama attended Harvard Law School – we find three addresses, all using the 042 Social Security number. After Obama was elected to the United States Senate in 2005, he moved into an apartment at 300 Massachusetts Ave NW; the Social Security number attached to that address is the 042 one. Yet, three years later, Obama used a different Social Security number for an address listed as: 713 Hart Senate Office Building. This was the address of his United States Senate office. This Social Security number began with 282 and was verified by the government in 2008.

Two wrongs don't make a right. Plus Obama's Kenyan father was a “transient alien” with no intention of ever becoming a U.S. citizen. And plus Obama himself took on a foreign citizenship which he was entitled to. He is an illegal-alien and knows fullwell he is.

When you stop making things up and honestly take time to think about what you are writing then you will realize that it is logically inconsistent with the real world. There is no need to enter into all the mistake made in the birther conspiracy theory. No matter how many times you repeat this conspiracy theory will make it true. There are just too many errors in it.

That is amazing a single private investigator has been able to accomplish more that the FBI and the State of Hawaii. It is more likely that Mr. Sankey is just making things up.

Keyes is just jealous. Here is a man who lost in the Illinois senate. Repeatedly failed to get the GOP nomination for president, and decided that running in 3 states would allow he to become president.

As far as birthers are concerned – if it is said or written, then it is true. The more it is said or written, the truer it becomes.

I am sure it is tiring to have to post comments, log out and log in under a different name just to 'Like' their posts.

1.8 million dollars? I heard it was much more. More like 1.8 billion. Has Alan Keyes posted a photo of his original BC on the internet for us to see?

You and the birthtards are pathetic excuses for human beings.

In the birther conspiracy theory universe defending oneself is a sign of guilt. See they through out any argument and hope someone is stupid enough to believe it. Their arguments 'just don't hold water.'

From after the first “has” to “Alan Keyes” is just made up nonsense. Whatever, Mr. Keyes has to say is of no importance as he is more interested in spreading the birther conspiracy theory to hide his real feelings.

“Two wrongs don't make a right.”*********

Three lefts do.

KEYES, I'm not saying this just to be nice, or because I want you to like me, or even because I'm trying to impress you and possibly even get in your pants, but, you truly are an idiot.

It is the same post written on a different article. They just type what they hope is true without ensuring that it is logically sound. But, some of them will be very picky about spelling.

There is a sucker born every minute. It seems Sankey has found many who subscribe to the birther conspiracy theory.

“Two wrongs don't make a right.” I am sorry to mention that the context text in which you are using the term is wrong. What was mention is something called “legal precedence” not a metaphor for “revenge.” Your homework is to learn the difference.

Numerous African newspapers reported his birth in Kenya.

Honolulu Advertiser reported birth in Indonesia (the archived report was changed in 2009).

snopes.com reported birth in Queens hospital then changed to Kapiolani (in Spring 2009).

This is not a question of understanding somebody’s English. The question is what documents did DoH officials use to support their statements.

It is clear that you want to take their statements as a proof of Obama’s birth in Hawaii without asking any questions.

It is possible that their statements were not based on the original birth certificate.

Colin Powell and his presentation to UN is a nice example of a government official using faulty reports to claim something that proved to be false.

How do we know that Dr. Fukino and Okubo are not doing the same thing as Powell did? In this case it is not necessary to invade another country to verify the accuracy of their statements.

In all the apartment I have rented, not a single landlord has ever asked for my SSN. The above is just nonsense.

African is a continent not a country. Please stop making things up. You have spend more time in your conspiracy theory than looking at the truth.

Africa is a continent not a country. Please stop making things up. You have spent more time in your conspiracy theory than looking at the truth.

(sarcasm)
Thank you for reminding me that Africa is not a country.
(/sarcasm)

If you followed the story you would have known that newspapers in several African countries reported Obama as born in Kenya.

Actually, I read the news articles in question.

One articles goes on to explain how Obama’s father came to America, meet his mother, and when was born in America. The second talks about a disgraced candidate for the senate. Both articles are modified from the original article.

One important mistake that you made in your attempted deception is that no newspapers reported Obama birth in Africa.

Honestly, there people who do research.

There is a reason why Neil Sankey no longer works for Scotland Yard: he's a fanatic who has completely forgotten his training. Very sad, but not a reason to listen to him.

Wrong. Not one African newspaper in 1961 printed a birth announcement because the President’s parents lived in Honolulu, and because he was born there. The President was born in Hawaii, and your refusal to accept this is yet more proof that you are a fool.

That is not the same as a birth announcement. Once again, all you have done is show that your English is substandard.

No, it’s a question of you being too ignorant to comprehend the plain statement of both Hawaiian officials that the President was born in Hawaii. That comes back to the question of your ability to read English, which, based on your persistent misinterpretation of statements a five year old native English speaker would have no problem understanding, is minimal.

Go take an ESL class or two. Until then, shut up.

What does your knowledge of English tell you about the statement by Colin Powell that Iraq had mobile WMDs ready for quick deployment?

His statement was based on somebody’s report.

Likewise, Dr.Fukino’s statement is based on a document. Neither she nor Janice Okubo were willing to be specific and mention that the original birth certificate is the document used as a basis for their statement.

Given the fact that DoH refuses to admit that they issued the COLB to Obama on June 6, 2007, I do not believe that Obama was born in Hawaii.

Please check the meaning of the following word in the dictionary: DECEPTION.

LOL. I never used words: birth announcement.

The main point is that the media reported his birthplace in three different countries (and two Hawaii hospitals).

If Obama was born in Hawaii there will be no problem releasing the original birth certificate, or allowing the Kapiolani hospital to confirm his birth, right?

Sorry, but inaccurate stories that have since been retracted do not count. What *does* count are the two contemporary and unequivocal birth announcements from Hawaiian newspapers stating clearly that the future President was born in Hawaii.

Where’s your birth certificate proving that you aren’t that lying adulteress, Orly Taitz? Come on, prove you aren’t a hypocrite!

Colin Powell is not relevant, nor is the Bush administration. Stop attempting to change the subject.

That rabbit hole you feel down must be very deep. You are using an example of counter intelligence to support your doubt about someone’s birth. You are using an example of a complex issue in the present to cast doubt about a single event in the past.

The example you used to support your conspiracy theory is exactly what you are engaging in. We refer to information used against Iraq as faulty information, yours are just lies.

Trying to justify war is magnitudes different that proof a birth. For a birth all you need is a doctor, a nurse and a hospital. Mr. Powell had to go to the UN which is an assemblage of world leaders. Man you are confused.

And once again, NC cuts and runs when challenged. Pathetic.

When you are dealing with irrational people generally ignoring them makes them go away.

When dealing with people continually asking questions about trivial matters ignoring them makes them go away.

The only entity that need to confirm the issues of the COLB is the State of Hawaii. That is the State of Hawaii’s jurisdiction.

However, those who subscribe to the birther conspiracy theory have proven they have ignored this confirmation.

So it seems that the statement “What is there to hide?” is just another poorly hidden lie.

I will post my birth certificate after Obama makes his BC public: the one that indicates Kapiolani as his birthplace.

Why is it that there were no inaccurate stories about former US presidents being born in foreign countries? Could it be that they were transparent about their birthplace – unlike Obama.

You are conveniently ignoring the fact that DoH is required by law to provide answers to public regarding (some types of) data on file and public statements by DoH officials.

A manual describing the use of phrase “Filed by registrar” is one of those questions that DoH must answer. Yet they refuse to.

Why are they hiding the truth from public?

According to the law, Dr. Fukino must answer the question about documents used as a basis for her press-release. Why is she refusing to do so?

I am not trying to prove that Obama was born abroad. The Powell comment was used as an illustration of the fact that it is wrong to take words of government officials at blind faith in cases when verification is easy.

I am trying to verify that Obama was born in Hawaii. It should be trivial to prove whether Dr. Fukino is telling the truth or not. We need to ask Obama to release the original BC, indicating the birth hospital. If he was not willing to do that, the DoH should comply with the law and answer the questions presented to them by the public.

What is the reason for hiding the original BC from public? I cannot think of anything logical that would explain Obama’s behavior if the claim of Hawaii birth was true.

Do I need to draw a diagram to make it easier for you to understand the connection between the Powell example and Dr. Fukino?

Blind faith in words spoken by a government official can lead to problems down the line.

As former president Reagan said about dealing with USSR negotiators: Trust but verify.

Let us be honest. No one will really care if you post your birth certificate. However, many people have been satisfied with the birth certificate he has posted.
Yes, this include the courts, and congress.

You have been at this nonsense for over 6 months. Time will not magically make your conspiracy theory true.

So since you are not trying to prove Obama was born abroad, then you are admitting you have been wrong.

Your statement that you are “trying to verify that Obama was born in Hawaii,” is a lie. The DoH of Hawaii has confirmed that it is a fact.

I can see you clinging to your conspiracy theory for many years to come.

Man, please stop lying.

You are the one that is conveniently ignoring that fact that the questions that you are asking have already been answered. Are you lost in some sort of time warp.

When some one states something as a fact. No matter how many times you ask the facts will not change.

Irrational people ask the same question over and over again.

This was clearly stated in my previous comment.

Or, are you just ignoring the facts that were stated.

If do not understand what “Filed by registrar” means then you have more problems than trying to argue away an election loss. Asking for clarification on the term “Filed by registrar” is a trivial question.

Another year trapped in birtherdom. Only you can put aside your biases, and accept that the birther conspiracy theory should be dismissed.

As hilarious as your “diagram” would be, there is no connection between Colin Powell and the current President’s eligibility for office. Your attempts to link them in a government of lies is ridiculous.

Where’s your birth certificate? Prove you aren’t Orly Taitz or go home.

Perhaps it’s because the others were white…but of course you’ll start calling *me* a racist for bringing up your own hatred of blacks.

Where’s your birth certificate? Come on, show you aren’t a hypocrite.

Now it looks like famous fellater and birther hero Larry Sinclair may be facing arrest for threatening the life of the President on his website. What a jackass:

http://candidblogger.blogspot.com/2010/01/sincl…

Can you answer a “trivial” question:

What is the meaning of the “Filed by Registrar” phrase as used in Hawaii. And please explain the difference between that one and the “Accepted by State registrar”, as both are used on Hawaii COLBs.

Honey, you are imagining things.

I never connected Powell and eligibility for POTUS.
Read the second sentence from my previous post again and again and again…

Do you have a reading comprehension or a logical thinking problem?

The questions have not been answered.

An example:
What is the index data related to registration number 10641? The DoH would not answer this question.

Do you understand its significance?

Use a dictionary. That is where all trivial answers can be found. Please started with the word “Registrar”.

It was hard to find a place to leave a comment for you. What thing that you have to realize about Natz is they are really nuts. Nuts in the context of being certifiable crazy.

You could not provide an explanation for a “trivial” phrase.

What happened?

Top radio hosts, including Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Michael Savage, Mark Levin and Lou Dobbs, have all said unequivocally and publicly that the Obama eligibility issue is legitimate and worthy. Still no Birth Certificate, except the Kenyan one, his father was a “transient alien” Brit married to the underage mother. He was adopted as Indonesian-Moslem Barry Soetoro, attended college as a Foreign Student, visited Pakistan on unknown visa, travelled a few times to Kenya as a young man(perhaps to renew his citizenship?). And he has already paid well-over a million dollars to cover this stuff up. Without the original BC he mentions “looking at” in 'Dreams of My Father' on page 26 and those college records he is a man without a country. Grandma Obama & Kenyan Ambassador both stated Obama was born in Kenya. Why would people like Alan Keyes, Dr. Michael Savage, Pat Boone, etc. make this stuff up? And if they did why wouldn't Obama have them charged with LIBEL? because he himself knows all too well they are right and that Obama is indeed an illegal-alien. The king is not wearing any clothes.

No 6 times of posting this doesn't make it any more true. Just make you seem more stubborn.

Keep egging me on and I'll keep posting. Why has Obama employed a legion of private and Govt. attorneys to avoid presenting a legitimate birth certificate and college records?

You post no matter what we do.

( staring wide-eyed at RED as if he were just caught eating out of the litter box )

You got that right. I've been reading Red's comments for months. he is rabid, has serious doubts about BHO's citizenship and is at least as astute as Palin. Makes a valid point sometimes and other times is talking just to say something. For the most part I have enjoyed this banter except when there is childish namecalling that makes no sense. Now I'll go back to my hiding place.

Thanks Michelle…I think.

Once Obama's original BC & college records are released all those crazy berftards can go back to the basements of their mobilehomes, put on their tinfoil hats and worry about UFOs or some other gov't cover-up.

“Once Obama's original BC & college records are released???” That is the essence of the birther arguments. Also, berftards is another word of birthers.

So the nature of your comment is confusing.

Yes, their are some on the left who are birthers.

Red, why don't you shut up and show us your list of pseudonyms? It would be more entertaining.

I don't think that being compared to Sarah Palin is a compliment.

Once Red's meds have been sorted out all those crazy birftards will have a very sad wake.

I WANT you to keep this up 'til at least Nov 2012. You Birfers are Obama's ez ticket to a second term, especially if you get Sarah P to stop beating around the bush & come out of the closet unequivocally as——one of YOU

HAHAHAHA DAMN YOU ARE A RETARD!! COME ON DUMB DUMB SHOW US SOME MORE OF YOUR STUPIDNESS

YPOU HAVE THE FACTS TO BACK THAT UP OR SOMETHING ELSE BESIDES THAT 12 INCH BLACK DILDO THAT YOU PULLED OUT OF YOUR ASS??

SURE AND THE WORLD IS FLAT, THE MOON LANDING WAS FAKED ON A HOLLYWOOD LOT AND ANNA NICHOLE MARRIED FOR LOVE!

AGAIN DO YOU HAVE PROOF???

DAMN IT MUST TAKE REAL EFFORT ON YOUR PART TO BE PHUCKING CLUELESS

DAMN YOU AR STUPID!

Another enlightened Obama supporter, LOL!

ANOTHER RETARD DUMBASS UNEDUCATED REDNCK POS

An example of encouragement you got from your parents as a kid?

YOU ARE RIGHT DADDY SAYS CALL IDIOTS WHAT THEY ARE IF YOU SEE THEY ARE LYING IDIOTS…SO YOU ARE A PHUCKING IDIOT

One cannot wrestle a pig and expect to win.

You’ll get muddy and the pig will enjoy it.

I JUST LOOK AT YOU TRAILER TRASH AND LAUGH LOOK AT THE MORON IN THE MUD!!!

No wonder I feel like washing my hands every time I read one of your repetitious, poorly thought out, and unpatriotic posts.

http://obamabirthers.blogspot.com/
Obama was putting out as late as 2004 that he was BORN in KENYA. Obama is an illegitimate President. he was not a “natural born citizen” as the Constitution requires to run for President. WHY HAVE OUR SENATORS & REPRESENTATIVES NOT SERVED EVICTION NOTICES W/THE BACKING OF THE FBI?

Senators and Representatives do not serve eviction notices, you pinhead. Sheriffs and constables do.

Even if the putative president ignores the challenge, he cannot hide from it, because by doing so he admits his guilt through silence. The question has to be asked near and far, why would a president who has promised greater transparency than any previous administration pay upwards of $2,000,000 of taxpayer money to hide documents that could resolve the matter once and for all time for the cost of $20.00. He has publicly admitted on more than one occasion that his father was NOT an American citizen. This alone disqualifies him from eligibility based on Article 2, Section 1, Paragraph 5 of the Constitution, and consequently makes him a usurper. (cf. the 4 Supreme Court cases which define what a “natural born citizen” is.)

Shut your pie hole, you damn ignorant racist.

Red Graham, you have asked why our U.S. Senators and Representatives have not kicked Obama to the curb due to his Constitutional Illegitimacy. Why, indeed? I submit that the reason lies in the fact that the Dems' own Nancy Pelosi is the one who vetted Obama and his legitimacy right after the Dem Convention in Denver two years ago. Pelosi and Barack Obama both need to be handcuffed, Mirandized, and tossed into federal lockup awaiting their trials on fraud, theft, and treason. That phony Obama should not spend another day out in the daylight for perpetrating this expensive fraud on U.S. Citizens.

Obama mentions seeing his “Birth Certificate” on page 26 of 'Dreams of My Father'. Why won't he release THAT Birth Certificate? Unless it's from Kenya than I understand. Why not the college records unless he attended as a Foreign Student than I understand. On the face of the evidence that Obama Senior was a Kenyan-Brit/transient alien BHO cannot possibly meet the natural born citizen requirement of the Constitution. We need to put this imposter out on his ear ASAP.

Another Birfer queuing up to the litter box.

Well, perhaps not: odds are high it's the same one taking a second helping. Our newest darling , anitadunnce ( not to be confused with the old, but ever popular, anitadick ) is, of course, none other than the clever and rascally RED ( note the use of the archaic and non-common “putative” by each ).

Actually, I heard that someone was coming to put you in a straitjacket. The State of Hawaii had release a statement confirming that Obama is in fact a natural born citizen of America. You can't challenge that claim, but you instead engage is spreading misinformation and half truths. Your conjectures have no weight against a “Certificate of live Birth.” It has no legal standing in a court of law, and would be dismissed as hearsay.

Bah Ha Ha Ha… Bah Ha Ha Ha…

Honestly, I haven't read anything so funny. You haven't even read the passage that you are mentioning.

There is something called “the straw man argument.” This is where you misrepresent your opponents position, and attack that position.

You misrepresent the facts and then you argue on that.

There passage that you mentioned was about an article that he was looking about, and not about his birth certificate. However, that birth certificate as well as the one he posted on the internet were both issued by the State of Hawaii.

There is absolutely no definition in the US Constitution on what is an natural-born citizen.

As, the president was born in Hawaii the nationality of his father is irrelevant.
Obama's father was a visa student who was legally in America, and stayed in Hawaii until he finished his studies.

The State of Hawaii through the governor of Hawaii's office has release a statement by the Hawaii Depart of Health confirming the validity of Barak H. Obama's birth. Included in the statement was that Obama is a “natural-born citizen.”

What are you hiding? It couldn't be a concern about a birth certificate, as you continue to manipulate the truth, English, and tell half truths. Impostors make up the facts to present themselves as being someone they aren't.

So, I will ask again. What are you hiding?

“Dunce” is the right word. The President has done nothing that even approaches the standard necessary for impeachment.

You missed it by a mile, Smart Guy. It is Dunnce. You clearly don't know
who Anita Dunn is, or you would have figured out the play on words. Oh
well, spend MLK Day doing some research on her, and you will be better
informed this week.
Unless you are a legal scholar (and people who are well informed know that
most things come in shades of gray, and are not black and white, so I know
you are not……. you gave yourself away), you don't have a clue about the
standard for impeachment. While you are reading today, how about reading up
on that, too?

If you will recall, President Clinton did NOTHING to harm the American
people, and yet he was impeached….. all he did was claim under oath that
he had not had sex with Monica. In fact, he was responding to a question
that he never should have been asked. Contrast his very private situation
with the general and public damage done by Obama, Obama's concealment of all
documentation, Obama's paying of circa $2M to hide even his medical records
and college transcripts, etc. Where is the hope and change? Where is the
transparency? Where is the open negotiation regarding health care that he
promised would appear on C-Span for all to watch? Where is the immediate
withdrawal of troops from Iraq?

Sorry, Buddy…. your boy is a fraud. He is a liar. He has accomplished
nothing in 12 months, although his term is 1/4 over now. Americans are
suffering as they cannot find even the lowest-paying jobs, are losing
houses, cannot feed their children, are having cars re-poed. A lying idiot
was elected to run our country. I have no respect for Obama, and after more
than 35 years as a loyal Democrat, I have officially left the Dem party. I
am one of many hundreds of thousands who have done that in the past 12
months. 2010 and 2012 are going to be SHOCKING elections for the Dems.

BTW, I hope Obama does campaign in Massachusetts. That will be the
kiss-of-death for the election of the Dem challenger and a shoo-in for the
Republican. And all you do is to spend MLK Day writing snarkey notes to me.

Anita
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I did figure out the play on words, and went back to your obvious source. It does not change the sadly obvious fact that you are, indeed, a dunce.

As for the standard for impeachment, you are wrong.

As for your claim to have been a loyal Democrat, please provide proof of same in the form of a voter registration form.

As for the rest of your screed, I plan to print it out so I can read it in a small, enclosed, private area of my office. Once I've done that, I plan to use it as it deserves and then flush.

Have a nice day, Dunce.

Oh yes. Here's the actual text from the Constitution.

“The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.”

The President has committed none of the above and will not be impeached. You, OTOH, are showing signs increasingly erratic behavior. Perhaps you should visit a psychiatrist before you have an aneurysm?

Ellid, since I am not the POTUS, I owe you no documentation. Now
I'll delete all of your emails, as they deserve.
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Since you are such a self-proclaimed Smartie, then you must realize that all
Constitutional terms and the language of all statutory language is
INTERPRETATED by the Courts…………. nobody gives a diddle what a little
Lemming named “Ellid” believes the language to mean. Grow up, huh? It's
not all about YOU.
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Maya Soetoro-Ng, Barack's sister, said that Barack was a Muslim and so was their Mom (Stanley Ann Dunham) and Obama's step-Father (Lolo Soetoro) in an interview with the New York Times published on April 30 2007. http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/30/us/politics… …
Obama's Mom is a Muslim. Indonesian laws and Islamic customs, Sharia Law, forbid Muslims from marrying a different religion. It was illegal in Indonesia to have dual citizenships. So both Obama and his Mother “Ann” lost their U.S. citizenship when moving to Indonesia. The Indonesian government only began acknowledging dual citizenship in November of 2006; The Hague Convention of 1930 and argues that since Indonesia did not allow dual citizenship, neither did the United States when it came to Indonesia.
Obama's Mom can NOT be an Athiest, like he claims, because Indonesia Law, does not recognize Atheists or Agnostics. Ann & Lolo (Obama's Step-Father), were both Muslims. Indonesian Law: “Marriage partners must have the same religion, otherwise one partner must make a written declaration of change of religion.”

Y'know, if you once, even ONCE, posted something truth, you might get something besides brickbats and mockery.

Just a thought.

I categorically deny being a Smartie. For one thing, I do not have a candy shell, nor was I manufactured by a Swiss firm best known for selling contaminated formula to Third World mothers.

Nice trick, deleting something I've never sent. Or haven't you figured out that you don't have to receive e-mail follow ups to your posts?

Sorry, but that what has happened with all the cases that those who subscribed to the birther conspiracy theory. The courts have ruled that “birthers” have no legal standing. This is what has been said all along.

It is really funny that you the statement “INTERPRETATED by the Courts.” Do you see the contraction. You refuse to accept what the court rules.

However, the clincher is “nobody gives a diddle … believes the language to mean.”

So let be harsh.

No one really cares what a birther believes the language means. Court case after court case has been dismissed. Complaints have been refused to be heard. Appeals have been rejected. Birthers have been told that they have no legal standing.

The reason that I referred to you and other birthers as being disillusioned is that you really don't think things through. You believe that the law should work for your special case, and refuse to acknowledge that law principles are general. It is all about fairness.

I laugh at your hypocrisy.

Sorry, please ignore my previous post it seems that you were able to successfully make her complain. I really wish she would re-read her reply to you and reflect on it.

It also seems that they don't know how to use computers.

Utter and total nonsense. That must be some strong coolaid your are drinking. Honestly, it is spelt with a “k”, but it seems that you don't know the difference.

Here is the error in your logic. No country don't automatically issue citizenship once you move to than countries. They don't even issue citizenship once you get married.

Do you honestly take time to thing about what you are going to write, or do you just make things up as you go along. I am not comparing taking time to consider what you are going to write, to just type as you formulate your ideas. You seem to just pull random thoughts together without considering if they are disjoint from reality.

Even your comment was a work of fiction, it wouldn't be logical.

Ah, but you DO have a sense of humor, Ellid…… which is probably the most
valuable trait of all! Thanks for your note.

On a similar topic, did you see today's news that Kraft has purchased
Cadbury for X no. of Billion $$, which makes Kraft the largest candy
conglomerate in the world. It seems to be a fact that, no matter how
unemployed or low on funds Americans are, they will NOT give up their
candy!!
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I do not consider any of your posts amusing. They are, however, obnoxious and rude.

RED:

You may not be the biggest, most ignorant, unethical liar on the board; but, if you are not, there is NO evidence to the contrary.

“interpretated”……. “contraction”…….. huh??? What kinds of drugs are
you on, you creep? Get a dictionary.
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Ellid, I have no clue of what you are accusing me. I allegedly deleted
something you allegedly never sent?? What in the HELL does THAT mean? I
sent you a nice note this morning, and I receive this kind of raging attack
at 7pm? What kinds of drugs are you on? Are you in therapy? You're
delusional.
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You asked me to stop sending you e-mails. I have never sent you an e-mail, nor do I wish to. I don't have the time to waste on racists.

Perhaps he cannot spell, but that is preferable to you and your birther friends.

You haven't been able to provide anything to support your idiotic position. Plus you have consistently contracted yourself or have you not taken time to read your comments.

Again I ask, “Huh?” I “contracted” myself?? What on earth does THAT mean?
You don't sound too sharp. Buzz off.
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So, instead of providing proof for your argument you cower. Provide proof for your position, or admit your wrong.

I see the broken record was put on the turntable again….Hey birfers, there are newer and exciting birfer blogs out there, we're there, what's taking so long? Those 85 IQ's must really be a drain. I mean, if you can only read at fifteen words a minute, we would understand, but even a one-eyed dog would have limped over by now….

Heerrre Doggy, doggy, doggy…….

No interest in communicating with you. I have told you numerous times
before that I do not find your emails inspiring or well-informed, and
therefore I have neither the interest nor the time to deal with them or with
you. Rest assured that when I run for public office, I will owe
explanations AND DOCUMENTS to my constituents, and I will provide medical
records, long-form birth certificate, college transcripts, passports
records, etc. at that time, unlike your Thug and Imposter in Chief. I owe
YOU nothing, however,… zero…. zip…. gar nichts….. so you get -0-.
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I'm very sorry, but mental patients usually don't do very well when they run for office. You should save your money to pay for a better psychiatrist.

Ellid: .
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Then just don't make a reply to any of my posts. It is that simple. Also, you can unsubscribe to this and other articles. It really isn't that hard to do.

For a person who has “no interest in communicating with you.” You sure can continue on discussing a topic.

You lie about the facts, and then enter into conjecture. Please proved evidence to support your position, or go away.

Anthony: .
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I think you should stop using your cell phone so much (if you don't have a cell phone, then don't stand so close to the microwave), because it's obvious to me that you have burned out your occipital, parietal and frontal lobes. That leaves you with only the “lizard Brain”. Not too versed with a computer, eh?

And the delusions of grandeur! My, my. Going off half-cocked like you do doesn't bode well for keeping constituents on your good side.
But you can always run for dogcatcher…No, on second thought, I love animals, and you appear to be a borderline abuser. Hope you don't have pets.

Too dumb to require a response from me. You don't deserve my time. Go away,
annoying and immaterial little fly.
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Funny, I was thinking the same thing about YOU!HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Am I bugging you?! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Oh, THAT is terribly clever and incredibly original. Dim Bulb.
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The demand for documentation of Barack Obama's eligibility to occupy the Oval Office is surging, with lawmakers in several states now working on legislation that could be used to require future presidential candidates to reveal precisely how they are qualified under the U.S. Constitution's demand for a “natural born citizen.” I have repeatedly contacted my U.S. Senators & Congressman about this illegal-alien and they seem to be content with “go along, get along” and don't want to make waves. Hence it is going to be up to the individual states to codify a Constitutional definition of “natural born citizen”, require original signatures on nomination paper certifications(not the copied signatures Pelosi provided) AND a copy of the candidate's original Birth Certificate before the name can be placed on the state's presidential election ballot. Obama mentions his Birth Certificate on page 26 of “Dreams of My Father” so he could just provide a copy of that one. Afterall it is probably the “source document” a Hawaiian official claims is on file in Honolulu. OR it could be the Kenyan BC. Also we are still not sure which citizenship Obama attended college as. If we can keep Obama off the ballot in just two states he won't have the audacity to run for re-election. So please write your state level senators to sponsor and support this legislation.

Just hot air. All States have to do is contract the government agency who has issued the birth certificate to verify its validity. Barak H. Obama has released his birth certificate as issue by the State of Hawaii through its Department of Health. After being inundated by request the Hawaii's Department of Health through the governor's office has twice issued press releasing reconfirming that they have the original birth records.

There have been legislation that mean nothing about nothing, and this proof of “natural-born citizen” legislation is just one of them. It has been suggested that it would take up state resources that have a proof of “nbc,” however I honestly doubt it. All that would happen is state that a presidential and vice-presidential candidate was born in would release a press release. States do regularly communicate. It seems that we have state-politicians wasting their time on non-issues instead of dealing the issues that are important to the well-being of their state.

There is a specific reason that states don't release original birth records, but copies. However, birthers just don't understand why their arguments as so ludicrous.

Whose brief did you steal this time, Red? And why bother? NONE of these has succeeded, so I can't see why you're wasting your time.

” RedGraham 8 hours ago
The demand for documentation of Barack Obama's eligibility to occupy the Oval Office is surging,”

Yes, you are correct, RED. In fact it has doubled, since now it is you AND Anita ( assuming [danger] that she is not, in fact, another of your “wAlter Egos” ).

. “So please write your state level senators to sponsor and support this legislation.”

I actually liked this idea once it was modified a little: I have written and called all my legislators from the national down to the city level and am pushing for legislation to have Birfers and all their related crazies declared a public nuisance. We are striving to have y'all declared “varmints” and given a “no license, no season, no limits” designation: we are also keeping the possibility of a bounty open.

I found the funniest birther-mocking video ever:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2u3Ax8UQ9ac

“Nothing was more to be desired than that every practicable obstacle should be opposed to cabal, intrigue, and corruption. These most deadly adversaries of republican government might naturally have been expected to make their approaches from more than one querter, but chiefly from the desire in foreign powers to gain an improper ascendant in our councils. How could they better gratify this, than by raising a creature of their own to the chief magistracy of the Union?” Alexander Hamilton

Of course. What's your point?

I think this is another one of the “Obama sucks because he thinks he's a MESSIAH who's controlled by the EVIL JEWS/FINANCIERS/BILDERBERGERS/TRILATERAL COMMISSION/GIRL SCOUTS/D&D PLAYERS/ALIENS” people.

Yesterday…”We all had to bring our birth certificates to show we were who we said we were, and we were the age we said we were, to play football in youth sports,” said Hayworth, who is currently challenging John McCain (R-AZ) in Arizona's Senate primary. “Shouldn't we know exactly that anyone who wants to run for public office is a natural born citizen of the United States, and is who they say they are?”
Later in the segment, which aired Tuesday night on MSNBC's Hardball, Hayworth said the responsibility for producing evidence should fall directly on Obama.
“I'm just saying the president should come forward with the information, that's all.

And I would bet a week's pay that those “birth certificates” were the dreaded certifications of birth that you seem to think have no legal validity despite their being used by millions of Americans every day to sign up for sports, obtain driver's licenses and passports, and verify eligibility for employment.

*yawns* Go spam someone else, you useless carbon dioxide expulsion unit.

“Hey.”

THIS JUST IN AP- WASHINGTON D.C. – In a move certain to fuel the debate over Obama's qualifications for the presidency, the group “Americans for Freedom of Information” has released copies of President Obama's college transcripts from Occidental College. Released today, the transcript school indicates that Obama, under the name Barry Soetoro, received financial aid as a foreign student from Indonesia as an undergraduate at the college. The transcript was released by Occidental College in compliance with a court order in a suit brought by the group in the Superior Court of California. The transcript shows that Obama (Soetoro) applied for financial aid and was awarded a fellowship for foreign students from the Fulbright Foundation Scholarship program.
To qualify, for the scholarship, a student must claim foreign citizenship.

RED:

Not only are you an inveterate liar, you also live in the past: that Freeper email is OLD. It has been floating around for months: in fact, when that bit of supposed “news” was new and popular among your cross-eyed hemophiliac friends, the site
“Americans for Freedom of Information” did not even exist. It does now; however, it is a sub-site of ” http://www.InformingChristians.com“ and came into existence on May 11, 2009. If you would bother to actually go to the site you would learn it was started and owned by one Debra Smith (http://www.debrajmsmith.com/beliefs.html) and she specifically states that not only did she NOT originate that release, but that the site didn't even exist at the time of the release.

THIS JUST IN AP- WASHINGTON D.C. – In a move certain to fuel the debate on whether RedGraham should be rolled in crap or is simply full of crap, the group ” Americans Secretly Serving Higher Order Law Enforcement & Subservience” (motto : Join TODAY and be one of us A.S.S.H.O.L.E.S.) announced that the conglomerate formerly known as ” RedGraham” is officially changing it's name to ” Red LyngSak Uhshet”

Yap, Yap, Yap… Just more nonsense. Don't you do any of your own original research. No, you are to busy spreading misinformation to actually check anything.

So… once a copy of the original “birth certificate” Obama mentions being in his possession on page 26 of “Dreams of My Father” and the actual Occidental College records get released the question of Obama's eligibility will finally be answered. That'll be great.

So … once you and other birthers stop yapping about much to do about nothing it will be great.

It is so hard to determine why you are so obsessed with a single copy of a birth certificate. It is common knowledge that each state keeps the original birth record of each person born in that specific state. Then they provide birth certificates of that information. At any time a person can have that birth certificate replaced.

Your use of the word “original” is as original as your feeble attempt to spread misinformation. Do you honestly believe that birthers are the first to engage in this type of behavior. You use the word “original” in an attempt to cast doubt about Obama's authentic birth certificate.

What is it? Do you have some special inside information that the birth certificate Obama mentioned in passing was the first copy that was provided to him, or was it the second.

You keep repeating the mention of a “birth certificate”, when the paragraph that included that phrase was about an article he was reading. Your entire conspiracy theory is all about a passing mention of the phrase “birth certificate.”

Don't let anyone of your birther friends know that the question of Obama's eligibility has been answer. Based on this fact they will start to cry on the outside as you must be on the inside after Obama won the election.

A birfer lie originating April 1st, 2009. APRIL FOOL'S DAY. Idiots.

Re: Occidental College

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/o…

As if we need more proof that birfer's are lying, delusional idiots.

Update Feb. 1, 2010
California lawyer-dentist Orly Taitz, a vocal member of the “birther” movement, is hitting the nation's capital to try to persuade a federal judge here in Washington that President Barack Obama is not a qualified United States citizen to hold the office of president.
Taitz's latest suit, filed Wednesday in the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia, resembles those she has unsuccessfully filed on behalf of clients in other courts. Taitz filed the suit in Washington pro se as the sole plaintiff.
Taitz said in the complaint that letters, e-mails and faxes to the Justice Dept seeking answers have gone unreturned.“This game of hide and seek by the Attorney General Holder and US attorneys was infantile at best and treasonous at worst, and National Security is on the line,” Taitz writes.
The suit demands, among other things, that Secretary of State Hillary Clinton provide a copy of Obama’s birth certificate. The case has been assigned to Chief Judge Royce Lamberth.

If Occidental College did release those records this supposed April Fools story might get debunked especially since The Great Usurper spelled his name as Saetoro instead of Soetoro. And Barry Saetoro did indeed claim to be Indonesian in college.

Ms. Taitz isn't one of the brightest lawyers. If she was she would have turned down the case. However, it is obvious that she is more driven by her distrust that in an attempt to accept the truth.

How lost in Ms. Taitz? She wants to convince a sitting judge that a person can become a “natural-born citizen” 14 years after their birth. Even though no where in American law does it state that a person who is born in American territory needs to have any of their parents to be an American citizen.

There are only two types of American citizens.
Naturalized Citizens
Natural-Born Citizens

That is it.

Ms. Taitz must love the attention, even when she knows that she will have her case dismissed.

Yep! Birthers are delusional idiots.

“spelled his name as Saetoro instead of Soetoro. And Barry Saetoro did indeed claim to be Indonesian in college.”

I realize this is a bit radical, but has it occurred to you that perhaps everyone who spells their last name the same is NOT the same person ? It gets heavier: there is also a very good chance that some people will share BOTH their first and last names, YET STILL NOT BE THE SAME PERSON ! I know: it's a difficult concept to warp your little Birfer mindset around, but, trust me, it is truth. Now, to really mire your few remaining firing synapses, it is even possible that some people will SHARE ALL THEIR NAMES and still not be the same person. If this hasn't seized your mind completely, I'm now going to share another truth : when last names are spelled similarly, but not exactly the same; the odds are great that IT IS NOT THE SAME PERSON ! Complicated, isn't it ? It gets worse: not all people have aliases – some people ACTUALLY USE THEIR OWN NAME ! Isn't it horrible how some folks just refuse to co-operate in your conspiracies ?

While I have your attention ( or lack there-of ), here's another tid-bit for you mull over : HUCKLEBERRY HOUND has sixteen letters in his name. Now, I realize that this probably has little or nothing to do with Obama's birth or his C.O.B., but you have to admit that's a lot of letters for a dog, and therefore, highly suspicious ( especially since Orly seems more the Moose and Squirrel type ).

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UPDATE:

Afterbirferism is dead. Proven out as utter bulls**t. Everyone who touches it gets slapped around like a whore. Look at all the s**theads who adopted it. Look what’s up with them, today.

Bunch of LOSERS. And poor ones, at that.

STILL blathering on? After a year?!  And after President Barrack Hussein Obama’s BC was verified UNEQUIVOCALLY. You really ARE a moron, aren’t you?

Go take your anti-psychotics and pull the wings off flies, or whatever passes for entertainment with tin foil toilers.

Dumba$$ birfer! 

You’re STILL overwhelmed, dumba$$!

It’s what happens, when you subscribe to birfer bulls**t.

Dunncecap. 

Hey, Dunncecap,

Gerome Corsi’s book is discredited BULLS**T. “The Birth Certificate.”

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Might as well call it “We Eat Shit For a Living.”

After all, that’s what you birftards have been doing for three years!

DUMBA$$ BIRFERS.

Hey, Dunncecap,

Gerome Corsi’s book is discredited BULLS**T. “The Birth Certificate.”

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Might as well call it “We Eat Shit For a Living.”

After all, that’s what you birftards have been doing for three years!

DUMBA$$ BIRFERS.

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And you’re married? I pity the fool who latched onto a LOSER like you. Does he believe the tin foil shit you do? Gonna sick him on me now?  Fucking COWARD.

No worries, you won’t get another reply,   I’d rather talk about things that will HELP this country. I’m not into traitorous, seditious idiocy. 

Have at it. It’s all you’ll ever be good for, nothing more.  

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