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Here again, evidence of why Taitz's claims are wholly false, and the “movement” is nothing but a “circular firing squad”. Her citizenship should have been revoked at this point.
Why ask an unanswerable question (actually, it WAS answered, the Taitz swooners just won't accept it)? Is it to redirect some of us from really participating in the building up of this country, after the disastrous Bush years? Why does Taitz want to destroy us? Is it revenge for us attempting to “Democratize” Russia after the fall of communism? (Occam's Razor seems apt, at this point) Only she knows, but her followers won't ask themselves THAT question, just the same one, that has been answered, over, and over, and over again, stunting constructive discussion about how best to get us back on our feet, and making this country prosperous, once more.

Just show the damm birth certificate and this all goes away.

It's already been shown. Why are you still here?

Our congress won't look at it and refuses to see the evidence before their very eyes. The courts refuse to hear it or listen to the cries for justice. The media won't report on it and will minimize and ridicule what little coverage gets out. Those who do speak-up about it are met with scorn. Obama is an illegal-alien and had no business even running for president. Obama must resign now.

Barack Obama’s social security number begins with “042? — “042-68-xxxx”. According to the social security website, “042? designates that his ss# was issued in Connecticut. Why in the world would he have a ss# issued out of Connecticut? He was not born there, he did not ever live there, it makes no sense. Did he perhaps have his ss# reissued (new number) with the help of a buddy in Connecticut?

At the time of Obama's birth, you were not required to assign a SS# upon birth, as now. Good try…..Keep digging, you'll reach China eventually.

Birtherdom is a place in some fantasy rabbit hole. Really, these people just through any idea out and hope that it casts some doubt. It is now an ingrained part of the political landscape. The disillusioned political landscape, but still political in nature. The movement has no historical significance other than being a foot note.

We have two veteran politicians, with some additional politicians, the State of Hawaii, etc. and none have openly challenged the validity of Obama's eligibility. Having seen politicians careers damaged in 2008 and 2009 after revelations about them have been made public. If there was any truth to the birther conspiracy theory, it would have been public in 2007-2008 or earlier.

We all know that the statement “Just show the birth certificate and this all goes away” is factually false. The birth certificate has already be shown and still is available to be viewed. This consparicy will cease to exist when either people like you do honest research, or 40-60 years from now.

Your right, of course, I'm just having fun.

Yah, I think they (politicians) see no advantage to furthering this idea, it IS political suicide.

Social security numbers were issued by only a few offices across the US. It was common to order your SS# in one state and receive it from another. It was simply done for economy reasons. Use your head for more than a hatrack.

They just make things up, and hope that they can confuse people. It is only a single government issued document and they can't explain it away. Instead they go off into tangents such as talking about Social security numbers.

Sorry this is the wrong Kenyan BC. Obama's real BC is shown here. It was actually retrieved from Kenya. Unfortunately, Kenya won't cooporate in authenticating it.
http://www.panamalaw.org/images/Obama-Kenyan-bi…

For Obots out there…if Obama has shown his BC…perhaps you can enlighten us and tell us what hospital Obama was born at and the name of the doc who delivered him.

Further, I certainly would like to know why no one has come foward with a first hand account of Obama's birth in Hawaii.

Obama is only 48. It is hard to believe that all the nurse and hospital staff workers present around Obama's birth would be dead.

It is theorized that Obama was in fact born in Kenya, but his birth was registered as being born in Hawaii.

Charles Kerchner, a plantiff who tried to sue Obama explains quite clearly it quite clearly in the following media clip:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmZpwcRf3FQ

You seem more like a drowning man who all you have to do is stand up to realize that the water is shallow. Why not stick to the facts instead of creating ambiguous statements. Take some time and re-read you comments, then think about the true implications of those comments. I am not taking about the authenticity of Obama Hawaii birth certificate, I am taking about the arguments you presented.

Just take the time.

Under ordinary circumstances, Obama's COLB would be fine to establish his Hawain birth. But a sufficient amount of circumstancial evidence contradicts it. Since we don't the derivation of Obama COLB, we cannot not for certain that Obama was born in Hawaii. The laws of 1961 made it very easy for foreign born babies to registered as being born in Hawaii. This is at least plausible. The vital records could nothing more that a statement from most likely the grandmother stating he was born at home with no witnesses. This was to get Obama US citizenship to avoid the lengthy process and cost of Obama getting it if he was born in Kenya. Obama also might have necessarily have gotten US citizenship if he was born in Kenya because the mother did fulfill residecny requirements. No thought Obama would grow and become the POTUS and this would become an issue. It is really interesting that no one credible has yet to come forward with firsthand knowledge of Obama's birth. Obama is only 48. It hard to believe everyone would be dead.

Circumstantial evidence contradicts it. Do birthers honestly take time to contemplate what they are trying to argue or do they just make things up. If there was any “circumstantial evidence” Obama's birth certificate would be null-and-void. This is something those who push the birth conspiracy theory just don't understand. Just wishing something is true in the real world doesn't make it true.

Hi, Gunny! That was already addressed in another thread a couple of weeks ago. Also, you're still wrong, and you're still using sockpuppets. What is wrong with you?

Hi, James. Or is it Tom? Or is it John? Whatever you call yourself, you're wrong.

Wrong from beginning to end.

Barack Obama’s Selective Service registration card and accompanying documents show that questions about him are not only NOT over, but if the signature on the document is in fact his, our Commander-in-Chief may have committed a federal crime in 2008, well within the statute of limitations on the matter. If it is not his, then it’s proof positive that our next Commander-in-Chief never registered with the Selective Service as required by law. By law, he was required to register and was legally able to do so until the age of 26.
But the Selective Service System registration (”SSS Form 1″) and accompanying computer print-out (”SSS Print-out), below, released by the Selective Service show the oddities and irregularities, all of which indicate the document was created in 2008 and backdated.

Because his father was a British Subject, born in Kenya, under British jurisdiction. Obama was born with dual American & British citizenship. It's been said that 'What the Founders feared more than the plague was dual citizenship” because that meant dual allegiances and divided loyalty. To them, it was a national security issue, which is the reason they wanted two generations of loyalty for the Commander In Chief.

In Obama’s home state, Illinois, Private Investigator Sankey tracked down 16 different addresses for a Barack Obama or a Barack H. Obama, of which all are addresses he was known to have lived at. Two Social Security numbers appear for these addresses, one beginning with 042 and one starting 364.
In California, where Obama attended Occidental College, there are six addresses listed for him, all within easy driving distance of the college. However, there are three Social Security numbers connected to these addresses, 537 and two others, each beginning with 999.
There are no addresses listed in New York where he attended Columbia University, but there is one listed for him in nearby Jackson, NJ, with a Social Security number beginning with 485.
In Massachusetts – where Obama attended Harvard Law School – we find three addresses, all using the 042 Social Security number. After Obama was elected to the United States Senate in 2005, he moved into an apartment at 300 Massachusetts Ave NW; the Social Security number attached to that address is the 042 one. Yet, three years later, Obama used a different Social Security number for an address listed as: 713 Hart Senate Office Building. This was the address of his United States Senate office. This Social Security number began with 282 and was verified by the government in 2008.

That is so factually false, it is just easier to laugh than laugh and write a rebuttal.

Even IF Kenya would 'cooperate' in authenticating 'it', it is a forgery. Just as federal judges have said repeatedly in their dismissal of all of these frivolous cases, they believe the records kept by the states of the United States are factual and true.

I never seen someone so shit all stupid as you. You musta got manure for brains.

Regurgitating the same old shit another day are we NC?

Ohhhhh! Boogity, boogity, boogity… That is certain the most compelling eveedence I ever read. You certainly have me convinced now. There's no doubt that there is more than one Obama and they're all president of the US.

Think about it! All Obama must do is release the Birth Certificate he mentions “looking at” on page 26 of “Dreams of My Father” and his college records and that will be the end of it all. The BC will either prove he was natural-born in Hawaii or he wasn't. The college records will say which name and which citizenship he used in college. Everything will then be covered and Obama can get back to being president or he will have to resign.
God Bless Dr. Orly Taitz!

Another cut and paste by the Man with a Thousand Names, and just as ridiculous as all the others.

What, you've run out of variations on “Gunny Red”?

Actually, this is good old Gummy Bear. I'm pretty sure he and NC aren't the same person based on their language use, but neither of them can argue their way out of a paper bag.

You are deranged.

Also, why are you continuing to post under multiple names? We all know it's you.

Oh, shut up and show your list of pseudonyms.

Why should he bother. You and other have proven yourselves more content with spreading your misinformation that looking at the facts.

But what is funny it Ms. Taitz and her clients have been told they don't have the legal standing.

The facts are against you, the courts are against you, the people are against you.

Fool. In Scales v. INS, 232 F.3d 1159 (2000), we have a clear definition of what natural born citizenship is. Scales' father was an American serviceman stationed in the Philippines where he met Scales' mother. They married despite the fact that Scales' mother was pregnant with him at the time. In all probability, the court said, Scales was a product of his mother's previous relationship. However, he was born after Mr. Scales married his mother, and he was treated as Scales' son. Later, Scales was facing deportation because of an aggravated felony involving drugs. He challenged his deportation saying he was a natural born citizen. The court determined that natural born citizenship depends on the statute in effect at the time of the child's birth. Since Scales was born in 1977, he was a natural born citizen because a “person shall be a national and citizen of the United States at birth who is born outside the geographical limits of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is an alien, and the other a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, was physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less than ten years, at least five of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years.” Id. at 1169; see 8 U.S.C. §1401(a)(7) (1976). Therefore, Scales was a natural born citizen despite the following: having been born in a foreign country, having been born to a non-citizen, having his American father later deny paternity (and prove non-paternity), and having claimed to be a citizen of the Philippines. Sounds like it is difficult to get rid of natural born citizenship.

Sweet James,

Barbara Nelson of Kenmore will undoubtedly think back to the day he was born. It was Aug. 4, 1961, at Kapi’olani Medical Center for Women & Children in Honolulu.

“I may be the only person left who specifically remembers his birth. His parents are gone, his grandmother is gone, the obstetrician who delivered him is gone,” said Nelson, referring to Dr. Rodney T. West, who died in February at the age of 98. Here’s the story: Nelson was having dinner at the Outrigger Canoe Club on Waikiki Beach with Dr. West, the father of her college friend, Jo-Anne. Making conversation, Nelson turned to Dr. West and said: “‘So, tell me something interesting that happened this week,’” she recalls.

His response: “Well, today, Stanley had a baby. Now that’s something to write home about.”

The new mother was Stanley (later referred to by her middle name of Ann) Dunham, and the baby was Barack Hussein Obama.

“I penned the name on a napkin, and I did write home about it,” said Nelson, knowing that her father, Stanley A. Czurles, director of the Art Education Department at Buffalo State College, would be interested in the “Stanley” connection.

She also remembers Dr. West mentioning that the baby’s father was the first black student at the University of Hawaii and how taken he was by the baby’s name.

“I remember Dr. West saying ‘Barack Hussein Obama, now that’s a musical name,’” said Nelson, who grew up in Kenmore and went to Hawaii in 1959 to be in Jo-Anne’s wedding party. When Nelson was offered a job as a newspaper reporter and photographer at her friend’s wedding reception, it led to her living in Hawaii for 47 years. She returned to Kenmore in 2006.

Ten years after that memorable birth announcement, Nelson would hear the Obama name again. This time, the father, now a Kenyan government official, was coming to speak at the Punahou School in Honolulu where Nelson was teaching and where his 10-year-old son was a newly enrolled fifth-grader.

“Dr. Obama had this lovely, attentive manner,” she said. “When he answered the children’s questions, he would do it as a story, which is the way they do it in Kenya.

“His son, whom he hadn’t seen in eight years, seemed as fascinated as we all were,” said Nelson, who went on to be a high school principal, a harpist, a watercolor artist and poet.

A few years later, Nelson encountered “Barry” again, when she watched high school basketball games, where her students played.

“The team came alive when he got on the court,” she said. “He was not only quick and graceful, but he could see the pattern and zero in on the opening. Though he wasn’t a starter, he was a graceful, passionate athlete who played back-up forward. He had a definite presence on the court.

“I often sat with his grandmother, who was a no-nonsense woman with these very solid Midwestern ways about her,” said Nelson. “She loved that boy and he adored her.”

As a high school teacher of British, Biblical and Middle Eastern literature, Nelson taught Obama.

http://www.buffalonews.com/494/story/554495.html

As to the born in Kenya crap, you bet it is “theorized” since the government of Kenya has confirmed that there is no evidence that Obama's mama was EVER in the country. It has been confirmed through travel records that his daddy was not in the country between 1960 and 1965. What's your next fantasy, fool?

Fools don't believe in facts. They spend more time making arguments that seem to come from a bad movie. With nothing to support their arguments they attempt to present conjecture as facts. They just don't realize the implications of their conspiracy theory make it impossible. This conspiracy theory will be around as long as they refuse to look at the facts.

There is not a shred of credible evidence that President Obama was born anywhere but Hawaii, nor is there a shred of evidence that any fraud at all was committed relating to his birth certificate. Speculating that, by golly, just maybe, possibly, conceivably some fraud could have occured by some wild stretch of the imagination in the birthers' fever dreams—well, that's just not going to cut it.
And there is a witness with firsthand knowledge of President Obama's birth. Her name is Barbara Nelson, and she discussed Obama's birth with Rodney West, the doctor who delivered him. She went on to teach at the Punaho School, where the future president was one of her favorite students. Funny how the birthers never bring that up.

John Charlton: The Supreme Court case which will void the entire Obama presidency…
Nov. 25, 2009)— It is often asked whether the usurpation of the presidency by Barack Hussein Obama will ever have a remedy in the courts. But the fact is that there already is a remedy in the courts: the ruling of the Supreme Court of the United States in Marbury v. Madison, 5 U.S. 1 Cranch 137 137 (1803).
That case was the first to expressly indicate that no action of Congress was valid if it contravened the Constitution. Since the U.S. Constitution requires that a President be a natural born citizen; and since the Supreme Court has in 4 cases used the term “natural born citizen” only in reference to one born in the U.S.A. of parents who were citizens at the time of his birth, it follows inexorably that Obama’s election as president by the Joint Session of Congress, on January 8, 2009, is null and void. Against this legal conclusion there is no argument.

Let us hope that you weren't born and educated in America, since it would justify your ignorance on the American Constitution.

What legal conclusion? As usual, you are wrong.

They don't believe in legal conclusions, just the manipulate of the truth.

If we apply the provisions of British and Kenyan law to the simple facts, which Obama claims about himself — though in truth there is no publically available documentation to confirm the truth of these facts — the inescapable conclusion is that Obama was born a British subject and is now, still to this day, a British subject: a Commonwealth citizen, to be exact. AKA: Illegal-alien

Lies from beginning to end.

Top radio hosts, including Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Michael Savage, Mark Levin and Lou Dobbs, have all said unequivocally and publicly that the Obama eligibility issue is legitimate and worthy. Still no Birth Certificate, except the Kenyan one, his father was a “transient alien” Brit married to the underage mother. He was adopted as Indonesian-Moslem Barry Soetoro, attended college as a Foreign Student, visited Pakistan on unknown visa, travelled a few times to Kenya as a young man(perhaps to renew his citizenship?). And he has already paid well-over a million dollars to cover this stuff up. Without the original BC he mentions “looking at” in 'Dreams of My Father' on page 26 and those college records he is a man without a country. Grandma Obama & Kenyan Ambassador both stated Obama was born in Kenya. Why would people like Alan Keyes, Dr. Michael Savage, Pat Boone, etc. make this stuff up? And if they did why wouldn't Obama have them charged with LIBEL? because he himself knows all too well they are right and that Obama is indeed an illegal-alien. The king is not wearing any clothes.

How many times are you going to post this nonsense. You don't even realize that Obama wasn't look at his birth certificate in the passage that you refer to.

Why has Obama employed a legion of private and Govt. attorneys to avoid
presenting a legitimate birth certificate and college records?

He hasn't. *yawn* You really are getting desperate, aren't you? Has your wife left you for a full-blooded Indian? Does she even exist?

It's Obsessive Compulsive Disorder. Many deranged birfers are fear mongering lunatics obsessed with their own paranoia and delusions.

In case you missed this:”What is the real intention of this Kenyan, Indonesian communist usurper? Is it to provide security for us or to destroy our security? Judge for yourself. Seeing targeted destruction of our economy, our security, dissipation of American jobs, massive corruption in the Government, Congress Department of Justice and Judiciary, it might be time to start rallies and protests using our second amendment right to bare arms and organise in militias.” per Attorney Orly Taitz

Wow. Now you added the words “In case you missed this:.” We all disregard Ms. Taitz arguments as just crazy.

Now we are up to in order So now we have “”Rep. Nathan Deal’s Birtherism, Investigated.”, “Rep. Nathan Deal (R-Ga.) Joins the Birthers”, “Those Birther Calls to Glenn Beck, Explained”, and this article.

Yes you are keeping your promise. I don't believe that the birther conspiracy theory will disappear, but do believe that it will just disgrace those who associate with it.

We all knew about this approximately six weeks ago, when Orly “Likes Sex in a Dental Chair” Taitz first posted it. It's just as stupid now as it was when.

He is (or she is) more interested in posting what ever nonsense supports the birther disillusion. However, I think you were to kind by using the word “stupid.”

Obama mentions seeing his “Birth Certificate” on page 26 of 'Dreams of My Father'. Why won't he release THAT Birth Certificate? Unless it's from Kenya than I understand. Why not the college records unless he attended as a Foreign Student than I understand. On the face of the evidence that Obama Senior was a Kenyan-Brit/transient alien BHO cannot possibly meet the natural born citizen requirement of the Constitution. We need to put this imposter out on his ear ASAP.

Wow. Now you are stealling other peoples comments.

Like really who would you post the same comment as Palin4Prez did on.

Rep. Nathan Deal (R-Ga.) Joins the Birthers?
Rep. Nathan Deal's Birtherism, Investigated?
Local Birther Makes Good?
Glenn Beck Accuses Liberals of Coordinating Birther Phone Calls?
Those Birther Calls to Glenn Beck, Explained?

And then post them on.

Best of 2009: Is This the Source of the Forged 'Kenyan Birth Certificate'?
Best of 2009: Rep. Trent Franks: Obama Should Release Long Form Birth Certificate?
2. Birtherism?

Are your bored or something or couldn't find something better to write.

Red and Palin4Prez are the same person.

“BHO cannot possibly meet the natural born citizen requirement of the Constitution.”

Not according to relevant authorities. Here's a hint for your little, delusional pea brain: You're not credible or relevant.

You will more likely end up in federal prison. Enjoy.

Would you bet your life that only one person named, Barack Obama or anyone with the surname, Obama has ever lived in the U.S.?

Yep! It is hard to believe that two people could be that childish.

DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH
News Release
LINDA LINGLE
GOVERNOR
_________________________________________________________________________________________________________
CHIYOME LEINAALA FUKINO M.D.
DIRECTOR

_________________________________________________________________________________________________________
For Immediate Release: July 27, 2009 09-063
STATEMENT BY HEALTH DIRECTOR CHIYOME FUKINO, M.D.
“I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, Director of the Hawai?i State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawai‘i State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama
was born in Hawai‘i and is a natural-born American citizen. I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago.”
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But the drooler has a disturbing problem with reality.

Enjoy federal prison.

DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH
News Release
LINDA LINGLE
GOVERNOR
_________________________________________________________________________________________________________
CHIYOME LEINAALA FUKINO M.D.
DIRECTOR

_________________________________________________________________________________________________________
For Immediate Release: July 27, 2009 09-063
STATEMENT BY HEALTH DIRECTOR CHIYOME FUKINO, M.D.
“I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, Director of the Hawai?i State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawai‘i State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama
was born in Hawai‘i and is a natural-born American citizen. I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago.”
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But the drooler has a disturbing problem with reality.

Enjoy federal prison.

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I wouldn't trust a document from a third world country that much. In Kenya for a couple of hundreds of dollars anyone could buy a doctor's degree.

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