Covering Palin the Right Way

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Wednesday, December 23, 2009 at 1:39 pm

A quick follow-up to my last post: There is a right way to cover Sarah Palin and her PR strategy. Greg Sargent, Ben Smith and Matt Gertz double-check Palin’s claim (made on Facebook) that her infamous “death panel” post was a “metaphor” for how health care would be denied to the old or infirm. In the original post, it was pretty clear that Palin was talking about end-of-life counseling, not rationing. And in subsequent statements it was even clearer. (Yes, I’m immediately breaking my “embargo,” but my point was that reporters shouldn’t just reprint what Palin’s press shop puts out.)

After the “death panel” post took off and President Obama said it was a lie that the health care bill would “pull the plug on grandma” — borrowing a term used by Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) — Palin put out a statement clarifying what she meant. She was talking generally about the eventual goals of Ezekiel Emanuel, the medical ethicist who has been smeared many, many times as a supporter of euthanasia, which he isn’t. She was talking specifically about end-of-life counseling.

The provision that President Obama refers to is Section 1233 of HR 3200, entitled “Advance Care Planning Consultation.” With all due respect, it’s misleading for the President to describe this section as an entirely voluntary provision that simply increases the information offered to Medicare recipients. The issue is the context in which that information is provided and the coercive effect these consultations will have in that context.

Two days, later, after the Senate stripped Section 1233, Palin declared a sort of victory.

I join millions of Americans in expressing appreciation for the Senate Finance Committee’s decision to remove the provision in the pending health care bill that authorizes end-of-life consultations (Section 1233 of HR 3200). It’s gratifying that the voice of the people is getting through to Congress; however, that provision was not the only disturbing detail in this legislation; it was just one of the more obvious ones… Our senior citizens are right to be wary of this health care bill. Medical care at the end of life accounts for 80 percent of all health care. When care is rationed, that is naturally where the cuts will be felt first. The “end-of-life” consultations authorized in Section 1233 of HR 3200 were an obvious and heavy handed attempt at pressuring people to reduce the financial burden on the system by minimizing their own care. Worst still, it actually provided a financial incentive to doctors to initiate these consultations. People are right to point out that such a provision doesn’t sound “purely voluntary.”

Finally, on Sept. 8, Palin submitted testimony to a New York State Senate Panel led by conservative Democrat Ruben Diaz, in which she specifically argued that the “consultations” were the infamous “death panels.”

A great deal of attention was given to my use of the phrase “death panel” in discussing such rationing. Despite repeated attempts by many in the media to dismiss this phrase as a “myth”, its accuracy has been vindicated. In the face of a nationwide public outcry, the Senate Finance Committee agreed to “drop end-of-life provisions from consideration entirely because of the way they could be misinterpreted and implemented incorrectly.”

Now, a normal politician with a normal give-and-take relationship with the press might not have pulled this off, because he/she would have had to answer questions about the explosive charge at every step of the way. But Palin was able to post occasional rants about “death panels,” get huge media coverage every time, and move on. It’s no surprise that she thinks she can paper over the history of this — when’s the last time she got fact-checked?

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Mr. Stillwater
Comment posted December 23, 2009 @ 1:59 pm

For all of Palin's personal actions, as she does not currently hold office, you sure do cover her and try to fact check her a lot. What's your agenda? Maybe you should put as much of this “fact checking” work on actual, er, politicians. Perhaps even the ones that actually have the power right now.


chrisjay
Comment posted December 23, 2009 @ 2:08 pm

The national media covers Palin much more continuously than WI; btw inluence=power. Limbaugh has never held office in his life: would you deny his influence/power? Palin is constanly name-checked by the media as a presidential possibility in 2012. One doesn't have to have an 'agenda' to acknowledge her news-worthiness. I think you are very confused….


monkey99
Comment posted December 23, 2009 @ 2:08 pm

She's had months to come up with a cogent answer about “death panels” after the fact. Why couldn't she explain herself when this first started?

As always, Palin being disingenuous at best.


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Mr. Stillwater
Comment posted December 23, 2009 @ 2:24 pm

This news website is a form of media correct? If they don't cover her, does she still have power? Certainly not the power the law gives actual elected officials, which I note Dodd has not gotten much mention on this website despite his huge influence over federal laws. Call me confused, but my life doesn't stop when Palin tries to make policy. It might when some senators, congressmen, and a president do.

As someone recently said “It’s not a scary “Death Panel” that determines who’s denied medical treatment and dies. It’s a friendly “Life Panel” that determines who gets treatment and lives! Mostly friends of the regime, I’d guess, based on recent history.”


chrisjay
Comment posted December 23, 2009 @ 2:32 pm

I'll concede this much: If I were a Republican I'd sure want to wish Sarah away to the cornfield, that's for sure!


24AheadDotCom
Comment posted December 23, 2009 @ 3:10 pm

Is Weigel ever going to get tired of carrying George $oro$' water?

I invite the reader to compare what he misleads about above to my discussion of Politifact's misleading article.

Why pay attention to PFact and Weigel when they have a habit of misleading you?


lua504
Comment posted December 23, 2009 @ 3:32 pm

When was the last time she was fact checked? The AP put 11 reporters on her book to fact check it. How many did they use for Obama's? How many did they use to actually read the “Health Care” monstrosity that the Senate and the House have created?
When McCain picked her as his VP a small army of reporters decended on Alaska to find any dirt they could on her. Did they even try to do that with Obama? Where are all of his school records, or medical or his records from when he was in the Senate in both Illinois and the US Senate?


mike18918
Comment posted December 23, 2009 @ 3:43 pm

What are you talking about? They're all available. Obama was vetted throughout the campaign, whereas Palin was a relative unknown on the national politics scene. Of course people were interested in finding out as much as possible as quickly as possible about her.

The reason AP has fact checkers for her book is because she has demonstrated time and time again that she lies, or distorts the truth, on a regular basis.


chrisjay
Comment posted December 23, 2009 @ 3:55 pm

Now you're just ranting like a Birfer


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strangely_enough
Comment posted December 23, 2009 @ 4:00 pm

Ummm… You are confused. Up at the top of the page is a search function. Typing in “Dodd” and hitting the search button yields tons of links to articles on this site.
Enjoy.


jimmyrollins
Comment posted December 23, 2009 @ 4:27 pm

you have a habit of posting about your own website in comments. can you just lay out your case here instead of asking me go over to your site?


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Jamika
Comment posted December 23, 2009 @ 7:39 pm

Oh, David Weigel, here's the Weekly Standard correcting you:

http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/200…

Palin was clearly talking about rationing and you know it.


narciso
Comment posted December 23, 2009 @ 8:39 pm

The Senate could not strip out HR 3200, because it was a House Resolution. They did strip out a counterpart provision, but she has called attention to the philosophical underpinnings behind this whole framework, Ezekiel Emmanuel's 'complete lives system, among other details. To argue that Obama received any
significant vetting, is just laughable, About the financing of his campaign by the major players in the subprime crisis, about the failure of his community organizing efforts in Altgeld Gardens, or the Marxist Alinskyite nature of his
teaching efforts, (the Times did one good piece on that)

He was depicted practically as the Kwizach Haderach, the ultimate in human evolution, who said that Obama had to step down a peg, to become President, Evan Thomas, the same who said 'death panels' didn't exist, but they were a good idea, they vouched for the stimulus, for the keen intelligence of Joe Biden,
for our need to accomodate ourselves to radical Islam.


hal
Comment posted December 23, 2009 @ 9:04 pm

Fact checking in this instance is like arguing with a paramoid schizophrenic. So much of what is said is wrong AND disconnected from reality that more falsehoods are papered over them before the next observation can be made. Sp has reduced political discourse to one liners, albeit delivered as a stream of consciousness that cannot be followed along its multitude of paths and backtracks.


chrisjay
Comment posted December 23, 2009 @ 9:21 pm

The Weekly Standard?
What a joke!
Bill Kristol is Palin's original Pygmalion/puppeteer! Read a little real-world info and you'll find that he virtually created the Sarah we all know &, ahem, love. His personal propaganda organ (the Standard) is a nonstop apology machine for Sarah's zany antics. Nobody takes that rag seriously!!


chrisjay
Comment posted December 23, 2009 @ 9:27 pm

I just reviewed Palin's rambling, disjointed & clinically paranoid resignation announcement and I'd have to say that 'stream-of-consciousness' performance art just about sums it up…


bpd123
Comment posted December 23, 2009 @ 9:39 pm

Actually, she did… 3 days or so later in her next facebook post.

Better luck next time, liar.


mtp1032
Comment posted December 23, 2009 @ 9:41 pm

Did you read her statement? I mean, what do you make of this sentence, quoted from her article:

“And who will suffer the most when they RATION care? The sick, the elderly, and the disabled, of course.” [my emphasis]

Further, the “death panel” semantic arises explicitly from rationing. What do you call a panel with the power to withhold treatment from an elderly patient who, but for rationing could afford the treatment? The term “death panel” does not seem at all inappropriate.

The fact that you don't comprehend this suggests that you (1) lack the skills necessary for critical commentary, (2) are willfully and ideologically blind, or (3) stupid. I suspect that (1) is the most likely explanation, but do not rule out (2) or (3) altogether

Michael


bpd123
Comment posted December 23, 2009 @ 9:42 pm

“In the original post, it was pretty clear that Palin was talking about end-of-life counseling, not rationing.”

You Lie!

Palin never mentioned end of life care in her original post. She specifically mentioned rationing. Why would her baby with down syndrome need to be worried about end of life care?


bpd123
Comment posted December 23, 2009 @ 9:44 pm

Funny. I had no problem understanding her.

I seriously doubt you just reviewed her resignation announcement.


bpd123
Comment posted December 23, 2009 @ 9:48 pm

To be honest, I can't think of one time she has lied or distorted the truth. Your assertion only makes sense if you take her comments and judge them based on what's “reported” about her and the caricature of her that is portrayed. This article is a perfect example:

The article tries to assert that Palin was talking about end of life care in her original facebook post, and not rationing. Therefor, it makes sense to call her a liar or claim she is backtracking when she now says she was talking about rationing. So… if you believe the meme that she was talking about end of life care all along, I can see how you would think she is being dishonest. However, if you simply go back and READ her post (not the small clip that was covered in the media) you will see she EXPLICITLY talks about rationing, NOT end of life care. Therefor, she is telling the truth.

It's all about context. Cover her in the proper context, and I can't think of a single lie she has told. That being said, she is a politician, so I am certain she has lied about something before, and I am just not aware of it.


bpd123
Comment posted December 23, 2009 @ 9:50 pm

All the Standard did was quote her facebook post. Shoot the messenger all you want… it doesn't change the fact that they are right. It's easy to be right when all you have to do is copy/paste the source.


monkey99
Comment posted December 23, 2009 @ 11:18 pm

She can't talk to the media, because she makes herself look ridiculous, but hey, you can always blame the media for the inability to speak and convey yourself in a cogent, sensical manner (which is why she hides behind her facebook account).

Now it's revisionism. She can't do that convincingly, either.

Sarah, stick to beatnik verse. It's really the only thing you do well (besides being a shameless prostitute).


monkey99
Comment posted December 24, 2009 @ 12:03 am

It took three days to get her ghost writer to backpedal on the ridiculous death panel crap.

That's by your sycophantic fawning understanding of this ridiculous woman.No one who lives in reality thinks she has anything of worth to say, because she proves herself to be unreliable as a source of actual, real information.
If scare tactics are you people's definition of the truth, you must be a devotee of Fox noise, too. I pity you.


monkey99
Comment posted December 24, 2009 @ 12:31 am

*crickets*

Are you going to take three days to answer that one, too?


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jimmyrollins
Comment posted December 24, 2009 @ 9:38 am

i call them an insurance company.


Tim
Comment posted December 24, 2009 @ 9:44 am

Here is her exact quote, seems pretty clear she is talking about rationing. But don't let the facts get into your muddled mind.

The Democrats promise that a government health care system will reduce the cost of health care, but as the economist Thomas Sowell has pointed out, government health care will not reduce the cost; it will simply refuse to pay the cost. And who will suffer the most when they ration care? The sick, the elderly, and the disabled, of course. The America I know and love is not one in which my parents or my baby with Down Syndrome will have to stand in front of Obama’s “death panel” so his bureaucrats can decide, based on a subjective judgment of their “level of productivity in society,” whether they are worthy of health care. Such a system is downright evil.


strider72
Comment posted December 24, 2009 @ 10:23 am

Considering the original quote, it doesn't appear that she had any thing to backpedal *from*. She is, and was, exactly right.

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strider72
Comment posted December 24, 2009 @ 10:25 am

“Obama was vetted throughout the campaign….”

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA *snort* Pull the other one; it has bells!


strider72
Comment posted December 24, 2009 @ 10:26 am

It's not about context. It's about facts. She was talking about rationing in the original “death panels” statement — reporting otherwise isn't “context”, it's a lie.


mantis
Comment posted December 24, 2009 @ 10:38 am

Here is her exact quote, seems pretty clear she is talking about rationing.

Oh really? So this “rationing,” which can only mean determining what health care procedures and services will be covered by government insurance (Medicare, Medicaid, and a public option, if one existed), would be decided based on the subjective judgment of individuals productivity in society? How does that work? How does a “panel” judge an individual's “level of productivity in society,” to determine whether that individual is “worthy of health care,” and the result be they determine that Medicare won't pay for a particular expensive experimental procedure? It makes no sense.

You know what makes a lot more sense? She's talking about end-of-life counseling, as she admitted, and then later lied about, several times.


willd23
Comment posted December 24, 2009 @ 11:59 am

Sarah, you go girl! For Democrats, you are the gift that keeps on giving. Keep up the ideological (or is it illogical?) fight because it completely polarizes Moderates like me, and serves to ensure that I along with most will continue to not vote for Conservatives.


gopfail
Comment posted December 24, 2009 @ 1:27 pm

you probably have lengthy conversations with your cat. and jesus.


gopfail
Comment posted December 24, 2009 @ 1:30 pm

the fb post was inaccurate lies, so makes sense.


chrisjay
Comment posted December 24, 2009 @ 2:55 pm

Why don't you address the specifics of the Pulitzer Prize-winning fact-checkers at Politifact.com instead of peddling cut & paste apologetics for the ever-victimized Sarah?


monkey99
Comment posted December 24, 2009 @ 3:46 pm

Did you actually read the part of the bill she twisted for her own ends?

Nothing in there about death panels. Nothing. Only the most obtuse thinking could come up with crap like Palin's scare tactics.
That she thinks she can resurrect that lie more effectively a second time around shows just how stupid she thinks we all are. Trouble is, the only ones buying that shoddy bill of goods are you Palin sycophants.
It's actually quite hilarious. Does she have some sort of Svengali influence on you people? You fawn over every facebook post she makes (which is questionable, since she is not a public speaker, unless you count that beatnik garbage she spouts, and the ghost-written book she touts as her own words) like it was the word of God.
I still haven't gotten a cogent (remember; COGENT. Look the word up in the dictionary, then get back to me) answer to her father's statement on why she QUIT collegiate life in Hawaii because of the “Asian thing”.
Maybe you can answer that one for me, since bpd123 is acting like their hero, Palinocchio.


chrisjay
Comment posted December 24, 2009 @ 3:57 pm

there's a little thing called the 'youtubes' : rest your doubts after you type in “Palin resignation announcement”
It's fun and entertaining!


monkey99
Comment posted December 24, 2009 @ 3:58 pm

willd23,

Welcome to the party. Most of us are laughing so hard, our sides are aching!


monkey99
Comment posted December 24, 2009 @ 4:24 pm

Trouble is, it doesn't say anything about rationing. Never did. How that leads to death panels is a mystery to everyone with a firm grip on common sense and reality. Did you read the part of the bill she takes so much exception to? The twisting of the language of the bill is hers, and hers alone. That politicians take up that nonsense just shows how ideologically bankrupt the GOP is.
That you Palin worshippers take her every word as though gospel was being spoken just makes us laugh all the harder.

Maybe you can answer what seems to be a really tough one for the FOPs (followers of Palin). Her father stated that she left UH because she became increasingly “concerned” about the “Asian thing” going on there. Mind telling all and sundry what in H*** that meant? Makes you wonder what her actual words were when she told her father. He was being, shall we say…….unconfrontational?

So while you spin your wheels defending this woman, just remember that she doesn't speak for anyone else but herself.


willd23
Comment posted December 24, 2009 @ 8:12 pm

monkey99,

The funny thing is, even my neo-Conservative colleagues seem to be embarrased by her (and Michael Steele). Two of them confided in me at lunch the other day that their worst fear is that she continues to divide the Republican Party approaching 2012, and makes “Conservatism” so unpalatable that President Obama is re-elected with little to no effort and/or by default. They lamented that this seems to be the direction that she, along with Chairman Steele (another tragic comedy) are taking their Party in, for their own personal gain. I personally think that Chairman Steele is much more divisive (with his Step-in-Fetchit bit…..) than is the Sarah the Quitter, and my Conservative colleagues do as well.


monkey99
Comment posted December 24, 2009 @ 8:50 pm

What?

No defense of the indefensible? C'mon…..Never stopped you people before. For all the denials of racism in the GOP, you now have one of your own.
As long as “foot-in-mouth” disease infects the Republican party, I fail to see how all the bluster and obstructionism is beneficial to your cause. Keep up the Palin worship…..You'll be circling the drain, right alongside your hero.


monkey99
Comment posted December 24, 2009 @ 9:12 pm

willd23,

Palin wants to be at the forefront of a “new” national party. What they call themselves is anybody's guess, but if the last year is any indicator, “Party of You Betcha” would be apt, I think.
Ridiculous colloquialisms aside, I wonder why Steele is still head of the RNC. You and your colleagues are right to be concerned, because he hasn't the mettle to be a politician. Just because HE thinks so, doesn't make it so. Like Michelle Bachmann and Sister Sarah.
The Dems have their own, too. They're just not as vociferous and deluded as those three are.


rick42
Comment posted December 25, 2009 @ 9:21 pm

Dude, are you deluded? She said, “Who will suffer most when the RATION care?”

Ration, not “counsel to end your life.”

Give me a break.


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james
Comment posted December 26, 2009 @ 3:19 pm

crybaby…
but I notice you are a consistent dolt…
you do not actually read what Palin writes, you sort of skim it and absorb it in your addled brain with a liberal twist and then whine…
bend over…. let Palin do it to you again


not a monkey
Comment posted December 27, 2009 @ 9:23 am

Hey Mr. Monkey, try the fourth line right about in the middle starts with an -r ends with an -ation. I failed english a few times but I think when you put all those letters together it spells ration.
And her father said something about palin being concerned with the asian thing?
How about Obama himself who seems to be obsessed with race.

“I found solice in nursing a pervasive sense of grievancee and animosity against my mother's race”

“There were enough of us on campus to constitute a tribe, and when it came to hanging out, many of us chose to function like a tribe, staying close together, traveling in packs. . . It remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names”

“The point I was making was not that Grandmother harbors any racial animosity. She doesn't. But she is a typical white person…”

“That’s just how white folks will do you.”

maybe that is just some stuff he picked up in his travels through the 57 states of America but a bit more racist and actually said by Obama himself.


Irish_Wake
Comment posted December 27, 2009 @ 11:48 am

Her 'death panels' are fictional.
Her assertion of federal weatherization money being dependent on changing her state's building codes is fictional.
Her 'Tasergate' stories are fictional.

These examples cover national, state, and personal arenas.

I am sure there is some politics involved, but she has won an award for being the biggest liar for the repeated death panel statements.


monkey99
Comment posted December 27, 2009 @ 1:33 pm

Ration. Nowhere in the bill does it say “ration”. That's Palin's ridiculous assumptions about healthcare reform that she has been apparently successful in “convincing” YOU with. “Death panels” are the Lie of the Year, making Palin Liar of the Year. Why should anyone take her at her word in that regard, again?

Look up the “Asian thing” online. There is a wealth of sites who have reported it, and just so you know, I happen to be one of those of the “Asian thing” extraction. Now you want to dictate how I should feel about Palin's father's statement? She herself proved it out.
So, by your assessment, there is no reason why, at this point in our history, I, or anyone else who is a “minority” in this country, should feel in the least slighted or outright offended by statements that just fan the flames of racial tension?
There have been attempts by many minorities in American history to prove our loyalty, faith and love of our country, yet, for some, it's never good enough. The 54th Regiment, the 442nd, the Codetalkers, proved it with their lives, but it somehow pales in comparison to anything the white race might do?
And YOU sir, need to reexamine your motive here, with your screen name. By your inference, you are no better than Palin (there's always room to go lower, though).


monkey99
Comment posted December 27, 2009 @ 6:52 pm

Boy, you sick little sycophants just can't accept that your precious Sarah is WRONG?
I have one for you….Since “rationing” seems to be the big SCARE to you, why aren't you with the rest of us, because the healthcare insurance industry is RATIONING YOUR care, right now! Just because it hasn't happened to you as of yet, what makes you think it won't eventually? None of us stay healthy forever. No one dies of “natural causes”, whatever that means.
That Palin decides what she posts on her facebook page about healthcare reform, she is RATIONING what kind of nonsense she feels you are fit to “receive”, and you folk parrot her lies like they were the word of god.
I say nonsense because her interpretation of reform is based on some twisted sense of right-wing values. EXTREMIST right-wing values.

Palin is trying to make you all believe that social justice (not “socialism”) is evil, yet you don't see her defending the present system, do you? Why? because she knows that would be political suicide. She's muddying the waters of debate, and all of you are swallowing her garbage like it was “buy one, get one free” at the local McDonalds.

Lastly, because of Bush's criminal mishandling of this country, we will have to PAY somewhere down the line, for all infrastructure, which we desperately need, at a time when most Americans can't afford it, when it COULD have been done on Bush's watch, at much less cost and sacrifice.

I hope Palin makes a run for the White House in 2012. Then you all will see just how few Americans were stupid enough to swallow her lies when she is trounced! Then she can crawl back into obscurity, where she belongs.


monkey99
Comment posted December 27, 2009 @ 6:55 pm

Hey, sycophant, see above.

And if you want to respond, do it right, so you can be tarred and feathered, too.


chrisjay
Comment posted December 28, 2009 @ 1:42 pm

Palin is the only Crybaby around; she wallows in a nonstop pity-party about how victimized she is by everyone from Katie Couric to us voters.
Boohoo, Sarah
Boohoo Palinistas


chrisjay
Comment posted December 28, 2009 @ 2:45 pm

Dude
In the days (even hours) following her original accusation Sarah made several FB posts reinforcing the DEATH PANELS context—given severasl opportunities to walk back the DEATH PANELS connotation, she proceeded to do just the opposite.
Nice try, dude


chrisjay
Comment posted December 29, 2009 @ 9:15 am

I'm not surprised you failed English several times; you mis-spelled 'solace' and other words. Now I'm wondering just what you were copying from when you made that mistake. I noticed that you failed to cite your sources


chrisjay
Comment posted December 29, 2009 @ 2:15 pm

I'm not surprised you failed English several times; you mis-spelled 'solace' and other words. Now I'm wondering just what you were copying from when you made that mistake. I noticed that you failed to cite your sources


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The Democrats promise that a government health care system will reduce the cost of health care, but as the economist Thomas Sowell has pointed out, government health care will not reduce the cost; it will simply refuse to pay the cost. And who will suffer the most when they ration care? The sick, the elderly, and the disabled, of course. The America I know and love is not one in which my parents or my baby with Down Syndrome will have to stand in front of Obama’s “death panel” so his bureaucrats can decide, based on a subjective judgment of their “level of productivity in society,” whether they are worthy of health care. Such a system is downright evil.


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