Pawlenty: Palin’s More Qualified Than Obama
Monday, December 21, 2009 at 11:06 am
The governor of Minnesota, answering a barrage of questions about Sarah Palin from Newsweek, has a politically astute answer to whether Palin has enough experience for the White House.
She is easily as qualified as Barack Obama. I would argue she’s more qualified in terms of leadership, experience, management, and supervision—actually running something. She was a mayor, head of an energy commission, and governor.
It’s a great answer because it pivots the attack to Obama. It’s flawed, possibly, because this was the argument that convinced almost nobody during the 2008 campaign — no one would seriously argue, if pressed that governing Wasilla, Alaska, or serving a partial term on an energy commission are grueling tests of executive skills. Obama’s 1992 stint at Project Vote certainly comes off well in comparison. But then, that’s the other part of the answer — if Pawlenty runs against Palin in 2012, it’s his eight years as governor of a swing state versus a governor whose term ended early and whose resume has to be padded to sound impressive.
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Comment posted December 21, 2009 @ 11:12 am
So, quitting a position because you want to make millions off of a book counts as experience in conservative circles now a days eh?
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Comment posted December 21, 2009 @ 12:16 pm
Gov Palin accomplished all of her main policy goals in Alaska. And instead of governing as a lame duck, spending millions of taxpayer dollars and her own money fighting the democrat smear machine via the abuse of the Alaskan ethics laws in an attempt to bankrupt the governor, she did the smart thing. Many of you don't realize this, but she wasn't rich like most politicians are. The liberals knew this and were trying to bankrupt her via the frivolous ethics complaints they filed. She doesn't need to have her resume padded, she accomplished more in two and a half years than most governors who serve 8 years. She had an approval rating as high as 93% and she has consistently stood up against corruption. We need more leaders like her in government.
Comment posted December 21, 2009 @ 12:20 pm
SHE IS A DUMB ASS BITCH CLOWN WHO QUIT AS MAYOR LEFT THE TOWN IN DEBT THAT IT IS STILL TRYING TO RECOVER, QUIT ON A ENERGY COMMISSION BECAUSE SHE DID NOT KNOW WHAT THE HELL SHE WAS DOING, QUIT 4 COLLEGES BEFOR GETTING A BA DEGREE, QUIT AS GOVERNOR BEFORE THEY IMPEACHED HER….. SHE IS A NO NOTHING CLOWN IDIOT ONLY THING THIS HO IS GOOD AT IS LYING ON HER BACK AND SPREADING HER LEGS!
Comment posted December 21, 2009 @ 12:23 pm
Your ignorance of the governor's experience is mind boggling. There is a list of her accomplishments here –>http://sarahs-accomplishments.blogspot.com/2009/07/master-list-of-governor-palins-2009.html but I doubt you will read them. My guess is you only read what the liberal media tells you to read.
Comment posted December 21, 2009 @ 12:26 pm
Your opinion is not based in any truth. Where did you get your information from? Al Gore? Chris Matthews? How about you actually read what she has accomplished instead of the lies that your liberal bloggers feed you?
Comment posted December 21, 2009 @ 12:41 pm
Also all of the ethics charges filed against her by your liberal democrat friends were either dismissed or she was exonerated. However she had to pay thousands of dollars out-of-pocket to defend herself against each one. Your attempt to ruin her because she has conservative values has failed, and that makes you angry. I recommend a good psychiatrist to help you deal with your mental illness.
Comment posted December 21, 2009 @ 12:47 pm
Just a few of Gov Palin's Accomplishments:
#1 6/11/2009 – Put together the largest infrastructure project in the history of North America; a natural gas pipeline deal between TransCanada and Exxon-Mobil. When complete it will send trillions of cubic feet of natural gas to hungry markets here in the United States. Alaskan governors prior to Palin failed to accomplish this.
#2 Commander-in-Chief of Alaskan National Guard visited with her troops overseas. She presented Purple Hearts to our War Heroes. She offered support to the family of a captured soldier. She met with U.S. Pacific Air Force Commander for Briefing on USAF Assets in Alaska. She signed legislation continuing retirement benefits to members of the Alaska Territorial Guard.
#3 CONSERVATIVE IN ACTION: Fiscal Year 2010 State of Alaska budget, spending reduced by $445 million. 90% of Alaska's tax revenue is derived from oil. Even though the price of oil crashed below $35 per barrel, under Sarah's stewardship, Alaska still ran a surplus. http://tinyurl.com/ylpdcpr
#4 1/16/09 Alaska Governor Palin released 'Alaska Energy: A First Step Toward Energy Independence' (“the plan” or alternatively, “the guide”), in which she called for 50% of Alaska's energy to be generated by renewable resources by 2025.
#5 1/3/2009 Gov. Palin met with representatives from nine countries in North America, Asia, and Europe and discussed matters related to international trade. The governor devoted much of her gubernatorial career to cultivating these relationships, and in so doing has improved Alaska's economy. Governor Sarah Palin met with Mr. Sergey Kislyak, newly appointed Ambassador of the Russian Federation to the United States, on his first visit to Alaska. Ambassador Kislyak was part of a large group of foreign dignitaries on hand for the weekend celebrations that marked Alaska’s 50th anniversary of statehood.
Comment posted December 21, 2009 @ 12:53 pm
ColumbiaMan,
And where do you get your info? Fox “opinions”?
Palin has shown herself to be supremely UNqualified to lead in any capacity. My niece has seen this woman up close, and is unimpressed. She lives in Wasilla, and is an actual Hockey Mom, and she tells me Palin is NOT what she claims to be.
As of now, she is more about money (the Republican God) than any substantive contribution to the public debate. Look, if all she can muster is picking on Arnold Scwartzeneggar for a statement on a subject she knows little to nothing about (and don't give up the crap about the first sub-commitee on climate change, because it went nowhere), it's just more of the same vacuous nonsense meant to inflame people, and fill the blogs. She does nothing for constructive debate about ANYTHING.
She has bamboozled you and others with her silly colloquialisms and winks. A good politician has to do more than that.
Comment posted December 21, 2009 @ 12:55 pm
Most of those so called “accomplishments” are bogus attempts to make Mrs. Palin sound like a superhuman. Battle on sexism and misogyny ha are you kidding me she probably cant even spell misogyny. I'm not saying Palin is a devil women who is bent on destroying true conservatism or the world or anything but is she truly qualified to be president? If you had any common sense at this point in time you would say no. And personally as a constituent of Governor Pawlenty's I think he should try actually getting something accomplished in Minnesota, especially on much needed funding for education, instead of spending so much time campaigning for a nomination that he probably won't win anyways.
Comment posted December 21, 2009 @ 12:56 pm
Obama was President of Harvard's Law Review, come on he's like wayyy smarter than her it took her 5 schools to get a BA degree. i'm not saying this should be held against her but i like to believe my president is more educated than i am.
Comment posted December 21, 2009 @ 1:00 pm
Bogus? They are actual facts of what she did. All you have to do is read it from the State of Alaska record. What I don't understand is why you simply don't admit that what you don't like about her is her ideology instead of making up lies and fairy tales about her. First it was the lie about her banning books, then the one about Trig not being her son, then the next lie was that she charged women for rape kits…all lies lies and more lies.
Comment posted December 21, 2009 @ 1:04 pm
She was also Governor of one of the smallest population states in America. How tough could it have been?
I also question all these so-called “creations” you list. I believe some were already in place when she took over as Governor, and cannot be attributed to her solely.
Her public performances don't scan with your assessments. Her big deal now is the shameless acquisition of money, which she no longer has to hide.
The woman is not a leader. Latching your wagon to this falling star is your first mistake.
Comment posted December 21, 2009 @ 1:05 pm
She had to pay her way through college. Obama had his education given to him. She switched schools to be closer to her friends and she had to work and save money during those times she didn't go to school. She didn't take out large student loans like most kids do. To say that it took her 5 schools to get a degree simply ignores the facts of her situation.
Comment posted December 21, 2009 @ 1:07 pm
My facts come from the State of Alaska record.
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Comment posted December 21, 2009 @ 1:10 pm
I wasn't referring to the examples you listed as “bogus”. I was referring to the link you provided of Sarah's accomplishments. There are a key executive accomplishments that she faced. And you are partially correct about not liking here political ideology. I am not a Republican hating liberal lunatic, sorry if this offended anyone. What I do not like are neo-conservative liars who are so narrow minded that they slander anyone who has slightly different views and dares call themselves a Republican. I would like to see more republicans in the house and senate take after more moderate approaches as congress people such as Olympia Snowe and spend less time watching the Beck's, Hannity's, and O'Reiley's. They are being brainwashed by there own kind.
Comment posted December 21, 2009 @ 1:13 pm
She was responsible for more resources than most governors. The small population was more of a challenge for her because she had to drive or fly to many remote places to speak with her constituents. My facts come from the State of Alaska record. Whether you want to believe them or not is up to you.
If she is such a “falling star” and not a leader, please explain her 93% approval rating? Hmmm?? When she was going after the corrupt Republicans in her own party, the Democrats were singing her praises. It was only when she said “yes” to John McCain's request that all hell broke loose and people made her ground zero for a major character assassination. To accuse her of shameless acquisition of money (when she has over $500,000 in unpaid legal fees created by the frivolous lawsuits) when Obama is accepting millions for a Nobel Peace prize that he didn't earn is laughable. Thanks for making me smile this morning.
Comment posted December 21, 2009 @ 1:17 pm
I am not a Republican either. I am not happy with both parties.
Comment posted December 21, 2009 @ 1:20 pm
Sarah Palin is nothing more than a chocolate Easter bunny.
If that's the kind of substance Palin backers require, the argument about educational achievements is a moot one, yes?
If she hides on Facebook and Twitter because of “media bias”, why show her face at all? Yet she returns like a bad penny, on cue, with a quip not her own, but from a ghost writer. She has shown her inefficacy in convincing anyone with an education higher than 7th grade how smart she is on any topic SHE cares to name. (again, the chocolate Easter bunny reference).
Palin V Pawlenty? A tale of two losers.
Comment posted December 21, 2009 @ 1:21 pm
I don't like labels, but Reagan was the last President I voted for and I am a fiscal conservative with a dash of social libertarian.
Comment posted December 21, 2009 @ 1:22 pm
Thats right your probably going to follow Sarah on her quest for an ultra “True Conservative” Third Party nomination. We'll see how that goes for her in 2012. Ross Perot and Pat Buchanan are just a few names that come to mind….
REFORM PARTY 2012!!!!!
Comment posted December 21, 2009 @ 1:22 pm
“Obama had his education given to him.” i don't understand? student loans?
She attended Hawaii Pacific University, North Idaho College, University of Idaho, Matanuska-Susitna College, University of Idaho again where she received her Bachelor's degree in communications.
Come on you really want to put her intelligence on par with somebody who went to oxy, columbia, and harvard LAW school? hello lets not get into outerspace here. were talking about 3 of the oldest, best universities in the WORLD
Comment posted December 21, 2009 @ 1:26 pm
I guess you haven't read her book. She had EDITING help just like all authors, but what is obvious is that she wrote it in her own Alaskan vernacular. I recommend that you actually read her book and you will see what I am referring to.
And your slam at her intelligence is childish. If what you said is true, she would have never garnered a 93% approval rating in Alaska. I urge you to step away from the liberal blogs and actually invest some time into getting to know Gov Palin. Not the made-up one that you see in the conservative hating blogoshpere.
Comment posted December 21, 2009 @ 1:33 pm
Actually I am not a “follower.” That is why I like Gov Palin. She is a DOER. I honestly don't know what her plans are for 2012, but based on her solid conservative credentials in reigning in out-of-control government spending, I will support her in whatever she decides to do. I think she will have the most impact in 2010 with helping conservatives make gains in the House and Senate. Also, the age of the moderates is coming to an end. In a recent Battleground poll, only 1% of respondents called themselves “moderate.” 63% of the American people described themselves as “very conservative” or “somewhat conservative,” 25% of Americans called themselves “somewhat liberal,” 8% of Americans called themselves “very liberal.” The remaining 3% are unsure.
Comment posted December 21, 2009 @ 1:37 pm
93% isn't hard to believe in a red state.
As for character assassination, how is that? She presented herself in a manner that brought it on.
She could have been gracious and accepted David Letterman's first apology (and I don't condone his philandering, but he's not a politician), but she kept going, making herself a target.
I don't think those ethics charges are all that frivolous, when she tried to finagle $50,000 from the McCain camp to pay for the fine on those charges.
Since I, you or anyone else in this country didn't proclaim Obama winner of the Nobel Peace Prize, it's not germain to this conversation, and it's how Palin got in trouble media wise, in the first place.
Comment posted December 21, 2009 @ 1:43 pm
Obama was given grants and scholarships. Gov Palin worked and paid her way through. Her parents were of modest means, in fact that is why she eloped in order that her parents wouldn't stress over an expensive wedding. If she would have had her college paid for, of course she would have completed it in 4 years. And if you want to get into the debate about intelligence Bush, Gore and Obama all went to these 'Ivy League' universities, yet they govern and act like the 3 stooges. You really didn't sell me there with your Prestigious University = High IQ argument. Nice try though.
Comment posted December 21, 2009 @ 1:46 pm
This is not about hating Conservatives.
This is about a woman that has shown no real substance in anything she's done. I don't formulate my opinion on what others say, but what I see and hear, for myself. Maybe if you did a bit of that, instead of parroting the same tired right-wing defense of this charlatan, you wouldn't like what you saw, either.
Oh, about her books…..Since they're basically a bunch of lies about everyone who has “wronged” her in the past, or her absurd belief in the direction she would like to take this country, your point is……..?
Comment posted December 21, 2009 @ 1:46 pm
That is why I like Gov Palin. She is a DOER.
You spelled that wrong. It's Q U I T T E R.
Comment posted December 21, 2009 @ 1:59 pm
In ANY state 93% is unheard of.
FACT: ALL of the ethics charges filed by known democratic operatives were either dismissed or settled with no finding of fault of the governor. She didn't try to finagle $50,000 from McCain. Fact is, McCain sent her a “vetting” bill for $50,000 which she thought would be paid by the campaign. She was never told up front that she would be responsible for those expenses. I urge you to actually read some of these complaints, like the one where she was wearing a jacket with a logo on it and that somehow violated ethics laws… give me a freakin' break, man.
David Letterman's first apology wasn't an apology. Go back and read the transcript. If you think that was an apology, then I guess our mothers raised us differently. Also to complain that the Governor didn't act gracious, is laughable. If your 15 year old daughter were a brunt of a sex joke, would you act gracious? Come on now…
Accepting millions of dollars for doing nothing IS germane to this discussion when you accuse Gov Palin of “shameless acquisition of wealth” for only doing something Obama and many other liberals have done before her, which is, to simply write a book. Now she will have money to fight off the attack dogs on the left that wish to destroy her and her family. And there is no shame in that.
Comment posted December 21, 2009 @ 2:03 pm
Your statistics are wrong. Check this gallop poll http://www.gallup.com/poll/120857/conservatives…
It clearly shows that moderates are the single highest ideology in American with Conservatism not far behind and liberals leading only very conservative and very liberal
Comment posted December 21, 2009 @ 2:06 pm
So that's what we're calling Sarah's chronic gaffe-spew now?
Alaskan vernacular
LOL
Comment posted December 21, 2009 @ 2:08 pm
Obama was 'given' grants & scholarships, huh?
Don't you mean he EARNED them?
Your worldview is very peculiar if that lapse is typical for you.
Start by looking up 'meritocracy' in a decent dictionary, would be my advice…
Comment posted December 21, 2009 @ 2:12 pm
“This is about a woman that has shown no real substance in anything she's done.'
– Her record speaks for itself. If you choose to ignore it, that is your choice. Ignoring a person's state documented accomplishments is not very wise.
“I don't formulate my opinion on what others say, but what I see and hear, for myself.”
– If that were true, then why don't you read her book? What you are saying about her book simply isn't true.
“Oh, about her books…..Since they're basically a bunch of lies about everyone who has “wronged” her in the past, or her absurd belief in the direction she would like to take this country, your point is……..?”
- First of all, she has only authored one book. And again, how do you know if you don't read it? My point is simple… have the courage and conviction to argue the differences you have with her over policy and not attack her with fairy tales. I would have more respect for your opinion if you would do two things. First, read her book, and secondly, read the official State of Alaska record of her accomplishments. Then if you feel the same way, then we can simply agree to disagree.
This is my last post on this site. I thank you for the spirited discussion. And I wish you well. Good day to you.
Comment posted December 21, 2009 @ 2:13 pm
Some of her money has been grifted while out on her “book tour”, as well as when she was campaigning to be VP—-she has a well-earned reputation for walking out on tabs, bills and other responsibilities and is a wretched skin-flint with her underlings…not very presidential at all…
Comment posted December 21, 2009 @ 2:20 pm
let me get this straight she was from a poor family and didn’t want to burden her family with dreams of going to GREAT ACADEMIC INSTITUTIONS and them having to financially invest in her future with money they didn’t have, so instead of looking for merit or need based assistance like b'rock, she chose to go to these junior colleges/less glamorous public institutions to fulfill her academic curiosities? and you mean to tell me that this “settling” is what I should respect about her over King George II, Gore, and B-rock because they had dreams of going to great universities and subsequently achieved their dreams. “govern and act like the 3 stooges?” don’t understand please explain? and yes people who go to ivy league schools on average have higher everything than that people who do not.
Comment posted December 21, 2009 @ 2:26 pm
The proper term was that he was 'awarded' the scholarships and grants. Many of which did not require any accomplishment on his part.
The only point I am making is that this attack on Gov Palin is unwarranted, and class oriented, with a hint of sexism. She grew up without money and had to make do with what she had. To impugn her intelligence because of her financial obstacles to me is completely and totally unjustified and unfair.
And if you want to discuss meritocracy, then Obama shouldn't even be President. Gov Palin's accomplishments and experience dwarf Obama's. Going to Harvard and being a community organizer doesn't give you automatic leadership credentials. Actual hands-on executive experience like Reagan had is what helps develop real leadership skills.
This has been quite a spirited discussion. This being my last post, I want to say that it has been illuminating and I wish you well. Good day.
Comment posted December 21, 2009 @ 2:29 pm
Then by your assessment, McCain AND Palin are both liars.
I saw Letterman make the first apology. It was an apology. If you parade your kids in front of TV cameras, you should be ready for anything. She wasn't. Moreover, to make an example of a beloved comedian shows how petty this woman can be.
As I said, no one in this country awarded the Nobel Peace Prize to Obama. The Nobel commitee did. Palin seems not to care how she gets the money, as long as she gets it. “Fight off the attack dogs”? She keeps stepping into the ring! You don't make a case by whining about what everyone is doing to you, then step right back into the same spot that caused the problem in the first place.
You say you are not a follower., yet your blind defense of this woman bespeaks exactly that. There are those who are not, and never will be, impressed by Palin. Not because of what she does to herself, but of the lack of the things required to be an effective legislator on a national scale.
Comment posted December 21, 2009 @ 2:32 pm
Late-breaking Palinnews:
Politifact.com has just announced that Sarah has been voted #1 for the year 2009
They have chosen her accusation that Obama is planning Death Panels as the 'Biggest Political Lie of the year'.
Congrats, Ms Palin
Comment posted December 21, 2009 @ 2:34 pm
If you call using facts and logic “blind defense” then so be it. I am no longer going to respond to your inane babblings anymore. Arguing facts to a brick wall is pointless. I wish you well and have a good day.
Comment posted December 21, 2009 @ 2:35 pm
She resigned like Obama and many others have done before their term is up. I guess there is a double standard for conservatives.
Comment posted December 21, 2009 @ 2:37 pm
Don't you get tired of making up lies? It really makes you look quite stupid.
Comment posted December 21, 2009 @ 2:54 pm
Many of which did not require any accomplishment on his part.
You base this on what, exactly?
She grew up without money and had to make do with what she had.
So did Obama.
To impugn her intelligence because of her financial obstacles…
People don't leave four different colleges because they have trouble paying the bills. They do so because they can't hack it. Her intelligence, or lack thereof, is on display every time she speaks. We don't need to look to her college records to come to the conclusion she's not too bright.
And if you want to discuss meritocracy, then Obama shouldn't even be President.
The President of the United States is elected by the voters, not by some screwball conservative meritocracy calculus.
Gov Palin's accomplishments and experience dwarf Obama's.
Yeah, she's quit jobs way better than he has.
Going to Harvard and being a community organizer doesn't give you automatic leadership credentials.
You know, your whining that people are passing judgement on Palin without reading her book is pretty amusing when you deliberately ignore the rest of Obama's resume.
Actual hands-on executive experience like Reagan had is what helps develop real leadership skills.
And when Palin had a shot at demonstrating “actual hands-on executive experience,” she ran away and quit. Pretty impressive.
Comment posted December 21, 2009 @ 2:56 pm
She resigned because she couldn't hack it, not because she was elected to higher office. There is a difference.
Comment posted December 21, 2009 @ 3:01 pm
GIVEN TO HIM?? PLEASE EXPLAIN THAT FROM YOUR SMALL LITTLE BRAIN
Comment posted December 21, 2009 @ 3:01 pm
YEAH ASSHOLE OK AND WE ARE TO BELIEVE YOUR STUPID ASS BECAUSE???
Comment posted December 21, 2009 @ 3:05 pm
WRONG AGAIN ASSHOLE THE ETHIC CHARGES WERE FILED BY REPUBLICANS…….MICHEAL STEELE IS NOT PAYING YOU INTERNS ENOUGH TO LIE LIKE THE IDIOT YOU ARE
Comment posted December 21, 2009 @ 3:05 pm
HOW ABOUT READING DUMBFUCK SOMETHING THAT YOU RETARDS HAVE TROUBLE WITH
Comment posted December 21, 2009 @ 3:06 pm
SO I AM TO READ SOMEONE ELSE BLOGS AS FACT HUH?? YOU ARE RETARDED PUT YOUR HAND DOWN ASSHOLE NO ONE CARES WHAT YOUR DUMBASS THINKS
Comment posted December 21, 2009 @ 3:07 pm
WRONG AGAIN STUPID WANNA TRY FOR DOOR NUMBER 3?
Comment posted December 21, 2009 @ 3:15 pm
She was responsible for more resources than most governors.
Sorry, almost 70% of Alaska is owned and managed by the U.S. federal government as national forests, national parks, and national wildlife refuges, and another 10% is managed by local Native corporations created under the Alaska Native Claims Settlement Act. All Palin did was tax oil companies a little more.
My facts come from the State of Alaska record.
Yeah, your facts are, she awarded state money for the TransCanada pipeline project, which a) is not “the largest infrastructure project in the history of North America”; b) is not even yet approved by the Federal Government; and c) has not started. Other than that, all you can point to is some meetings she had and the fact that the oil companies had record profits while she was governor, and the state reaped the benefits, as 90% of its taxes come from oil. Big deal.
If she is such a “falling star” and not a leader, please explain her 93% approval rating?
Easy. She saddled the oil companies with additional taxes, and sent Alaska citizens each a check. Free money = high approval ratings. Interesting that a self-proclaimed “fiscal conservative” thinks raising taxes on corporations is such an accomplishment.
It was only when she said “yes” to John McCain's request that all hell broke loose and people made her ground zero for a major character assassination.
You mean when anyone outside of Alaska had first heard of her? Oh, and please whine some more about how delicate Sarah Palin can't take people asking her questions. It really strengthens your case at what a great leader she is.
Comment posted December 21, 2009 @ 3:20 pm
Yes, I'm sure the Black guy with the Muslim name, an absent father, white mother and raised mostly by his GranMa had an “unfair” advantage in life…
Ha to the HA!
Comment posted December 21, 2009 @ 3:20 pm
Please tell me ColumbiaMan, that you didn't attend school at that institution by that name. I would hate to think that prestigious institution turned out a complete fool who can be turned by a wink and a “you betcha”. I can tell you what they try to claim as Palin's “accomplishments” are the things she signed on to that were the work of others and then tries to claim it as her own. She had no original thoughts or plans, could not speak coherently to a single original plan she had because she had none. As “mayor” of Wasilla, a tiny little town where I lived, she was incapable of doing the job. The previous mayors had all run the business of the community, she couldn't and one of the first things she did was to hire a city manager to do the actual work. What?? The largest city in Alaska has a working mayor- no city manager. Tiny little Wasilla shouldn't have needed one either. She hired a firm to go after federal government funds, you know, those earmarks she was for before she was against them. She managed to leave a tiny little town with a pollution problem, polluting the (formerly) beautiful Lake Lucille by having no plan to deal with runoff from the God awful strip malls and other ugly buildings. Runoff was not a surprise- we Alaskans say that there are three seasons- summer, winter and breakup. She got federal funds alright, and still managed to leave a community that was debt free with a 22 million dollar debt.
When she was appointed to the Oil and Gas Commission she didn't do much of any work- she showed up for a short time and then declared the commission was a part of the “good old boy network” which most of us already knew and the democrats had been fighting against forever. Nothing new from her but it gave her the excuse to quit.
As governor, she pretty much signed on to the democrats agenda which gave her the ability to hang on to their coattails. She really didn't do much work. And as far as the location of her constituents, its a fact of life in Alaska. There aren't too many places you can get to by car, including the capital. No biggie to Alaskans. She had complaints filed against her because she was not living up to what she said and she was using her position to go after others. She was not paying for her own defense- the states Attorney Generals office was defending her on all the complaints filed against her. And don't forget, she was found to have abused her position in “Troopergate”. It was actually one of her supporters, a republican woman, who filed most of the complaints against her because she wasn't doing what she promised. Palin tries to make it out to be “the liberals” but that is a pile of crap. But she is very good a piling on the crap- i.e. good at lying. She is an idiot that would be entirely incapable of running the US government. If Pawlenty or you think she is better than President Obama, you are complete fools and have no business voting because you don't have the smarts to do so.
As far as approval rating in Alaska, it started out high and started falling. By the time she left office it had fallen off dramatically. She would have never been elected to a second term if she had stayed through the first. If she is stupid enough to try to run for president, I predict a bunch of very smart people in Alaska will have to come out and tell what they know to the rest of the country, she is in no way capable of being president. She wasn't qualified to be vice president and I'm still waiting for the day John McCain apologizes to the rest of us for choosing her as his running mate. I thought he had more sense but he proved me wrong. He demonstrated with that selection why he is not qualified to be president either.
Comment posted December 21, 2009 @ 4:28 pm
Don't forget her father said she had to leave school in Hawaii because there were just too many Asians and South Pacific Islanders for her- she didn't like being in the minority.
President Obama and Michelle Obama both took out student loans and used saved money to attend school and they both worked after they graduated to pay back their loans. I wouldn't say they were much different. Palin didn't excel in high school so she may have had a harder time justifying student loans, but they were available to her. Alaska is part of group of states in the west that allow students to attend for the in state tuition rates. I think Hawaii is part of that group. Alaska and Hawaii have pretty close ties- being the last two states to join the union and that is close to fly between the two- comparatively speaking. A lot of Alaskans vacation in Hawaii.
And it did take five schools for her to get her education. If she was so “poor” as to not be able to afford to attend as you allege, she could have attended any of the campuses in Alaska- the University of Alaska system is a very good system with several campuses. She could have lived at home and driven to UAA. She didn't leave because of financial reasons- that has been known for some time. She quit the schools just like she has quit everything else. You are so gullible. I wish I had a bridge to sell you. I guess that wink did it. After reading your posts it is clear you must be just drooling over the bimbo. . What a tool.
Comment posted December 21, 2009 @ 4:34 pm
That is a complete lie. The State of Alaska paid for the attorney's as they were employees of the Attorney Generals office. It was no where near $500,000.00 and they were getting paid anyway. Another big Palin lie to excuse her quitting again. Palin gets the Liar Liar Pants on Fire Award for 2009.
Comment posted December 21, 2009 @ 4:39 pm
Sorry but your facts are incorrect. Gov Palin was required to hire her own attorney to defend the frivolous ethics charges. There is no provision in state law that will pay for those expenses. You sir are a bald face LIAR. Have a nice day.
Comment posted December 21, 2009 @ 4:42 pm
Each of your points are flat out lies. Its amazing your nose doesn't cut off when you close the door.
Comment posted December 21, 2009 @ 4:49 pm
You don't know what you're talking about. Teachers in Alaska are some of the best paid anywhere. She was not deprived and she had choices. You don't know what you are talking about at all. And evidently you are going to run away now because people are right in their arguements against yours.
And she eloped because she was pregnant. She didn't have time to plan a wedding before she would be showing that she was pregnant.
Comment posted December 21, 2009 @ 4:53 pm
I am trying real hard to find something that was truthful in what you said above, but I am unable to. Making up fairy tales like you do maybe entertaining for you and your friends, but it makes you look both petty and imbecilic to the rest of Americans who aren't hell bent in destroying a conservative woman. You are in the same crowd that claims Obama is a muslim and was born in Kenya. All of you should find an island somewhere and duke it out. Have a nice day.
Comment posted December 21, 2009 @ 4:56 pm
Again Mr. Trigtruther, which blog gave you this info? Oh yes, the same ones that claimed Palin bans books, charges women for rape kits, and is divorcing Todd Palin. Fairy tales once again…
Comment posted December 21, 2009 @ 4:58 pm
Do you like your ColumbiaMan cooked Medium, Medium Well, or Well Done? =)
I enjoy the debate. Have a good day, all. =)
Comment posted December 21, 2009 @ 5:02 pm
I love it… she never said Obama was planning Death Panels. Read her statement word for word, she was referring to rationing and what the end effect would be. In reality, “death panels” already exist.
Comment posted December 21, 2009 @ 5:03 pm
I was referring to the independent Battleground poll. So I am not wrong. You simply are using a different poll. =)
Comment posted December 21, 2009 @ 5:04 pm
Resigning her office like Obama and many other politicians have makes her a “quitter?” Interesting how your standard only applies to conservative women…
Comment posted December 21, 2009 @ 5:08 pm
Wasn't Reagan's “hands on executive experience” working with a chimp, and then kicking the mentally ill out on to the street, and kicking the hippies with the various police forces, as governor?
Comment posted December 21, 2009 @ 5:12 pm
When you are not resigning to take the higher elected office you won, well, yeah it kinda does make one a “quitter.” Regardless of gender or nonsensically implied misogyny…
Comment posted December 21, 2009 @ 5:16 pm
Talking with a local accent and with local expresssions is considered gaffe-spew? I guess the same could be said of Kennedy(RIP) and Kerry. At least she does know there are 50 states in America, not 57. And she can speak without a teleprompter which she did well at the GOP convention when their teleprompter went down. All politicians make mistakes, I can point out gaffes galore from every single one of them. Lets rise above that and debate policy, not gaffes. =)
Comment posted December 21, 2009 @ 5:16 pm
And who will suffer the most when they ration care? The sick, the elderly, and the disabled, of course. The America I know and love is not one in which my parents or my baby with Down Syndrome will have to stand in front of Obama's ‘death panel' so his bureaucrats can decide, based on a subjective judgment of their ‘level of productivity in society,' whether they are worthy of health care.
Obama's “death panel” of bureaucrats will decide whether people get care based on their “level of productivity in society.” Pretty clear what she said, and that it was a complete lie. You lying about what she clearly said is laughably unconvincing.
Comment posted December 21, 2009 @ 5:17 pm
Try linking to polls you reference, if you don't want people to assume you're full of shit.
Comment posted December 21, 2009 @ 5:20 pm
Leaving your office from higher office and quitting because you can't hack it are two very different things. Stop pretending it has anything to do with political ideology or gender. It doesn't. Palin's just a quitter.
Comment posted December 21, 2009 @ 5:21 pm
Lets rise above that and debate policy, not gaffes. =)
Too bad Palin doesn't understand policy, and from all evidence neither do you.
Comment posted December 21, 2009 @ 5:22 pm
Notice the quotation marks. If you don't understand the meaning of those, then you need to go back to school. Anyone with an ounce of brain knows she was referring to rationing, thus the use of quotation marks. Also she uses “death panel” singular, not plural as you liars on the left keep saying…
Comment posted December 21, 2009 @ 5:25 pm
Among other things, yes. He did compete two terms in office as governor, and didn't quit halfway through the first like some super amazingly qualified awesome governors.
Comment posted December 21, 2009 @ 5:28 pm
Hey, I'm just a guy defending a conservative woman being maliciously attacked. I also have defended Obama from the birthers. Nothing wrong with that is there? What is interesting is how people on here have to attack her so vociferously, and yet all she is doing is Type Type Type…Send on Facebook and writing a book. Amazing for such an irrelevant and intellectually challenged private citizen. =)
Comment posted December 21, 2009 @ 5:30 pm
Notice the quotation marks. If you don't understand the meaning of those, then you need to go back to school.
I understand that some people believe that putting something in quotation marks gives them excuse to lie. I don't need to go back to school to know that Palin is such a person.
Anyone with an ounce of brain knows she was referring to rationing
Actually, no. If she were referring to rationing, she would not have thrown in the bullshit about “subjective judgement of their “level of productivity in society,” which she just invented out of whole cloth.
Also she uses “death panel” singular, not plural as you liars on the left keep saying…
I only used the term “death panel,” so I don't know why you're accusing me of using the plural. Also, it's rather amusing that you believe that's a substantive point. Who cares if it's singular or plural. It makes no difference whatsoever. It's bullshit either way.
Comment posted December 21, 2009 @ 5:31 pm
I LIVED it, which is more than you can claim. For your information, I never said her latest isn't her child either. I know what the newspaper stories were at the time they took place because I had a newspaper subscription that delivered one to my Alaskan doorstep every day. I watched the news and I was very involved in my community and state. I am a registered voter who never missed an election. I was at meetings and I watched debates. I know a whole lot more than anyone reading her crap and the false bullcrap she puts out. And I do know that she did not have to hire an attorny for complaints that were lodged against her in her capacity of governor and I know the REPUBLICAN woman who lodged most of the complaints.
Comment posted December 21, 2009 @ 5:33 pm
Stupid people become famous in this country all the time. Some are even elected president, like GWB, with disastrous results. Some of us would rather Palin not be elected to federal office, lest she fuck up the country royally. The fact that people oppose her is not evidence of intelligence.
Comment posted December 21, 2009 @ 5:37 pm
ANOTHER LIE FROM A RETARDED REPUBLICAN WHAT ELSE IS NEW??
Comment posted December 21, 2009 @ 5:41 pm
Sarah Palin's approval numbers were at 70% in Alaska before she took the call from McCain. So for over a year and a half she must have been doing something right before the fangs of the left wing media got a hold of her. Obama, in less than a year… well… I don't need to tell you about his numbers now do I?
Comment posted December 21, 2009 @ 6:08 pm
GWB wasn't all that 'famous' He simply was the lesser of two evils. The country is already royally screwed up. 12 trillion debt, mounting deficits caused by out of control spenders in Congress. I don't know any stupid people who have the 93% approval rating Sarah had, and a consistent above 70% rating she had until she answered McCain's call. Sorry but you don't make any sense with your logic.
Comment posted December 21, 2009 @ 8:26 pm
Wait a minute- Reagan was the last president you voted for? If you don't even vote, why are you in this conversation?
Comment posted December 21, 2009 @ 8:29 pm
She had a ghost writer. She isn't an author. You have to do the writing yourself to be an author.
Comment posted December 21, 2009 @ 8:30 pm
Absolutely not. Most people don't talk like that, in Alaska or anywhere.
Comment posted December 22, 2009 @ 2:44 am
You refer to the “gas pipeline” as if it were a real and tangible object that you can see, touch and feel. The facts are so different.
First, they structured the bidding process to where only a very few companies could even participate.
Second, the only company who could realistically win the bid was the company she wanted to win, a Canadian company that one of her appointee’s had worked for. Said appointee structured the whole deal for her (former) company who of course won the bid. There is no pipeline and the chances of it being built are very slim. They have many permissions to obtain, including across the land of the First People in Canada, federal US land, federal Canadian land, and private lands. They have two national governments to deal with, they have EPA, they would need buckets and buckets of money that they don’t have and aren’t likely to get because a natural gas pipeline isn’t a high priority these days.
They deliberately structured the bid so the companies like British Petroleum, Exxon, the big north slope companies who had the wherewithal to do such a pipeline couldn’t bid. We currently have a oil pipeline running from the north slope of Alaska to Valdez. I would say that the building of the first pipeline was the largest infrastructure built and it is real, it exists, and has been carrying oil for a lot of years. The chances of this thing Palin did, other than costing Alaska a bundle of money, will probably not even come into fruition at all and if it ever does, it is many many years down the road. So until it happens, it isn’t an accomplishment.
Comment posted December 21, 2009 @ 11:13 pm
Palin strikes a chord in many Americans, she has that LEADER thing about her, that sense of destiny and charisma that unite muddled masses looking for inspiration.
And as a woman, she brings HISTORY and progress, to see a female finally in charge of the most powerful country on Earth, FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER!
Comment posted December 22, 2009 @ 12:05 am
Unless you figure she quit to rake in the book deal bucks. Which she did.
Helping constituents: No.
Helping bottom line: Yes.
can you see now why she proved herself as the darling of the current Republican party?
Comment posted December 22, 2009 @ 1:34 am
Hey if you really like he that much that's fine with us.
If anything it's good that you like her that much because this means less support for other GOP contenders.
Comment posted December 22, 2009 @ 1:47 am
LaLee,
It's self-induced psychosis (I didn't think it was possible, but apparently it is). They place more stock in opinions passing as news, the world to them, from what I can see, is some sort of parallel universe where nonsense is the reality.
To the Palin sycophants, it's a bipolar world.
Comment posted December 22, 2009 @ 12:01 pm
Your beef is with the Pulitzer Prize-winning fact checkers, Mr Cheerleader. But I am glad you 'love it' …
Comment posted December 22, 2009 @ 12:46 pm
You seem to be in denial about the FACT of Palin's reputation for chronically uttering the most bizarre, outlandish and offensive bytes of any national politician in my lifetime. Wish it away if you need to, but rational adults can't.
Comment posted December 22, 2009 @ 1:11 pm
Approval rating has no bearing on one's capacity of a good leadership. Good leaders are those who make tough choices, looks at an issue in long-term rather than for short-term political gains. Besides, pleasing 700,000 people in Alaska is NOTHING compared to serving 300 million people.
Comment posted December 22, 2009 @ 6:41 pm
Your personal insult aside, the latest public example of Palin’s lack of ethics was all over the internet last week when she stiffed a hairdresser who had been yanked out of bed at very short notice to service Sarah on her book tour. The victim is named Rhonda Halliday, for those who wish to verify. I know ColumbiaMan won’t—he’s already dismissed me as a stupid liar.
Comment posted December 22, 2009 @ 6:44 pm
That, my dear cheerleader, is simply a rationalization. Without using examples of those vacating one office upon being elected to higher office (apples & oranges), please use specific examples to illustrate your so-called double standard.
Comment posted December 22, 2009 @ 6:24 pm
HAHAHAHAHAHA WHAT HAS THIS CLOW ACCOMPLISHED?? NOTHING BUT SPREAD HER LEGS AND MAKE KIDS……MY BULLDOG CAN DO THE SAME THING…NEXT!
Comment posted December 23, 2009 @ 7:17 pm
If you were any more delusional about her and her record I would have to start believing you are her trying to come off as someone else. I have personal experience with her and many years of Alaska experience. She isn't what she tries to portray herself as being.
Comment posted December 26, 2009 @ 6:44 am
Transparency – LIE
No Washington as usual – LIE
No red state, blue state. The United States – LIE
We must work on the Deficit/Then gives Fannie & Freddie a blank check for three years – LIE
I will push for universal/single payer health care – LIE
Sarah Palin is infinately more qualified.
Comment posted January 1, 2010 @ 1:27 pm
First, both are equally qualified. Each fulfills the requirements listed in the Constitution.
Her mayoral stewardship brought multi-million dollar debt to Wasilla.
She taxed the oil companies, redistributing the wealth to Alaskan citizens as a gift from the State, and calls President Obama a socialist.
Palin has 'struck a chord' with the 'muddled masses'. Her denial of history and lessons learned illustrate the politics of ignorance.
Comment posted January 1, 2010 @ 6:27 pm
Both are equally qualified. Each fulfills the requirements listed in the Constitution.
Her mayoral stewardship brought multi-million dollar debt to Wasilla.
She taxed the oil companies, redistributing the wealth to Alaskan citizens as a gift from the State, and calls President Obama a socialist.
I suggest that leaders exhibit qualities other than followers. Palin has 'struck a chord' with the 'muddled masses'. Both vehemently reject history and lessons learned, illustrating the politics of ignorance.
I suggest that leaders exhibit qualities other than followers.
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