Comprehensive Immigration Reform Bill to Be Introduced Dec. 15

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Screwing the American worker one illegal at a time X 20 million

At long last! Reasonable people of America UNITE! Bring them out of the shadows and let them PAY WHAT THEY OWE! Deporting all 12 million of them will only COST taxpayers Billions of $$$$$$$. Thank God!

Comprehensive immigration reform needs to take a balanced approach between the interests of employers and the interests of US workers. While not every job available is a job that a US worker is able or willing to fill (H2B jobs). Some jobs are. There is a 10% unemployment rate and a percentage of those represent laid off workers who have degrees and experience in their fields and still can not find employment.

In his posting on American Innovation, Mr. Bernard Wolfsdorf (
http://ailaleadership.blogspot.com/2009/12/immi…) argues in favor of increasing the H-1B quota indicating and cautions against restrictionist policies. The argument is clearly an argument in favor of employers. The H-1B category is not limited to highly skilled technical workers and scientists. Foreign nationals with a job offer in a 'specialty occupation (professionals) with a bachelor's degree in a field relevant to the position qualify. Not every H-1B worker is a worker with advanced skills in their field or with a Ph.D. in a cutting-edge area of research. There are many US graduates with advanced degrees and with experience who cannot find employment. Needless to say, many of our young people with bachelor's or master's degrees in all fields are also stuggling to find employment. At the same time that some employer's indicate that their H-1B position is an entry level position to get a lower prevailing wage, they also argue in favor of more H-1B numbers in order to keep the cost of labor down through increased competition in the labor market. Consider that It is not that the US does not produce highly skilled workers and scientists, it is that business interests keep want to keep sources of labor high in order to bring down the cost of labor. Admittedly, we could and should increase the number of US graduates in the sciences. Admittedly, the US has to do a better job of providing access to affordable, quality education and training to all Americans at all age groups. Americans too are a source of innovation and creativity.

This is not an argument against immigration or in favor of restrictions. It is an argument in favor a more balanced approach. So suppose a guest worker program is pushed through. Good. That might resolve an existing problem that will not easily disappear if ignored. Good people, who are already here and already working, might obtain employment authorization and legal status. They may have to wait in a very long line before obtaining permanent residence, but they will be able to become more productive members of a society that they are already contributing to. But expanding the numbers of H-1B, or L-1Bs visas available is tied to yet larger number of future nonimmigrants and their families coming to the United States, increasing the labor pool even more. Perhaps before such increases are proposed, the unemployment numbers should be brought down and perhaps if nonimmigrant visa increases are to be made they should be made in very limited circumstances for shortage occupations and not all occupations. And before that, all efforts should be made to increase the availability of US workers qualified for such shortage occupations. If employers are having a tough time finding workers and are willing to spend lots of money on lobbyists, they should be willing to make grants to universities and colleges to educate US citizens in certain fields. They should fund more research grants to universities to hire US citizen graduate students to prepare them for employment in their area. The Federal Government should be willing to do the same. If China, India and other countries can produce great scientists so can we, given the opportunity.

“Screwing the American worker one illegal at a time X 20 million”

stop speaking for others, if the labor unions are for it then the american worker is for it, just because you are against it DON'T INCLUDE others in your assumptions.

Immigration reform needs to get done, just like health care reform and financial reform. I am glad the democrats are finally getting things done unlike the party of the NO.

Everyone must be warned before coming to the United States. Even if you have a visa, you are putting yourself at risk of Homeland Security ICE officers. I have a best friend that is from Paris France here on an education visa to finish his degree. He has been here since 2005. His visa is valid until March of 2010, His passport is valid until 2014, and his I-20 is current. He is not illegal. In 2008 He fell in love and married a U.S. citizen that just happens to be addicted to Prescription medications, He knew nothing about this. But he was arrested due to her mistakes. He was placed in detention, scheduled for deportation. He has been in detention center in Pompano Beach Florida for 5 months now. All this because of her mistakes. She should be the one in jail not him. Please everyone coming to America. Think twice. This couple has lost all there savings on lawyers, she lost her job, and they are in the process of losing there home. All this was caused because ICE has the wrong person in jail. They make up any story they want and when they are questioned about it you get nowhere. I have written many letters to Janet Napolitano, Senator Bill Nelson, and even President Obama. But no one will listen to the truth. So please people think twice about coming to America for any reason. Our immigration system is broken ….they all agree, but you put your life at risk when you enter our borders. Even if you follow the rules you may also lose everything as this couple has. No one will listen, no one cares.This man has never even had a traffic ticket, he is not a criminal. He tried to go by the rules of immigration and apply and do it right. Shame on America

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If I understand your reply you are saying there should be no rules and labor unions want illegals. I thought rules applied to everyone except illegals, think about although I doubt if you will understand.

The fools in Washington don't have a clue, about the consequence of calling for another Comprehensive Immigration Reform package. Has anybody really got any conceivable idea of the ramifications, once President Obama and his political troops whisper AMNESTY. It will be like the final Marconi radio SS (Save our Souls) urgent message from the HMS Titanic? Those perpetrators who want to pass a bill of Immigration reform, are completely ignorant of the masses of humanity that will be pushing against the border fence. From the tip of South America to the huge continent of Asia, new peoples are already biding their time? It will not matter if E-Verify becomes a permanent fixture or even if Homeland Security fully empowers once again the uniformed police 287 (g) federal immigration detainment bill. Even a sudden surge in ICE raids or any enforcement matters will be completely obsolete, as millions more will be swarming the border barrier. It might as not exist, for all the good it will do against millions of destitute, sick, handicapped, pregnant, criminal and just illegal immigrants looking to feed their families. Tell me who is going to stop this sudden surge in numbers, that will start moving towards the fence in Canada and the Southern fence. Then we have tourists and students who have arrived for years by aircraft, but never returned to their home country. People trying to cross the undermanned border will never end. Knowing that there is always a chance of another AMNESTY, those who cannot make it in their own country will keep on coming–and never STOP?

Has anybody with at least one brain cell in their head, considered that once somebody yells AMNESTY–everybody and their Grandmother are going to be slipping across the border or boarding a jet to come here. Neither the Border Patrol, National Guard or Jesus Christ himself are going to stop, the millions of destitute, uneducated, unskilled foreign labor and all the rest in this behemoth deluge? They will wait for the call to go out and just like the 1986 AMNESTY, they will appear with fraudulent documents, that indicates they have been here 5 years or more. Those 3 million people who were legitimized, turned into 5 million after the Simpson/Mazzoli bill was ratified? We already are subsidizing 20 to 30 million foreign national families, whose going to pay for the unknown number waiting just across the fence? Its going to be the unmentionable mass numbers, exiting from every far corner of the impoverished countries on this Earth to be departing for America. GOD HELP THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND ITS SURVIVAL.

So get on the phone and demand as a voter for your lawmaker to vote for THE SAVE ACT (H.R. 3308) and be relentless. The number to call is 202-224-3121. Also bombard the House-Senate policy makers with 28 cent postcards, to stop the open border organizations from engineering another Path to citizenship or AMNESTY. Tell them to amend the 1986 Immigration Reform Act, not another facade that was a bloated with fraud. Understand that THE SAVE ACT will protect American jobs and remove illegal immigrants from working locations over time. Those who believe in America’s survival, without OVERPOPULATION as stated by the US Census bureau better read the facts, not the lies at NUMBERSUSA. Those who want details of corruption in WASHINGTON and state government go to JUDICIAL WATCH. For Overpopulation statistics, should go to CAPSWEB. Other sites of interest on Immigration enforcement is ALIPAC and AMERICAN PATROL.

Thank you Johnny 123. We must have immigration reform which includes allowing those undocumented workers, who keep many segments of our service industries running , work their way to a legal status. I'm not Hispanic but I work closely with many of these undocumented families They pay taxes,(contrary to popular belief) put money into our economy, pay into social security with no hope of ever collecting, work hard and provide for their families. Does everyone realize that the restaurant kitchens that you eat in, the hotels that you sleep in, the farms that provide your food, etc. are kept alive by the undocumented. I know that employers in my community say that when they have tried to hire legals to do these jobs they work for two days and decide not to show up again! Also those that I am familiar with are not working for minimum wage. They are working for $10-13./hr. One small pizza parlor owner says that if he could get Americans to come to work and work hard he'd be happy to hire them. The argument that these people are taking away our jobs is not based in fact. Please check your facts and make an informed decision.

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What is it that Gutierrez doesn't understand that the American people DO NOT want amnesty for these illegal aliens? Illegal aliens are destroing this Country, and one would have to be almost blind not to see this. Maybe Gutierrez is blind.

Illegal aliens have made America the dumping ground for all their illegal alien children, then we have to school them and give them free medical care.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSe3C5vMafM&NR=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_ZnX9JRo5M&NR=1

http://www.kpho.com/video/18452473/index.html

I for one, am sick and tired of these illegal aliens snubbing their nose at our immigration laws and the many other laws of this Country. If our Federal Government can not ENFORCE our immigration laws, and get these illegal aliens out of this Country, then let the States do it! One way or another, an end has to come to this illegal immigration, and not with AMNESTY! Amnesty will only encourage more illegal aliens to invade our Country and reward those who broke our laws and raped the American taxpayer in many ways…depressing our wages, taking our jobs, overwhelming our schools with their ILLEGAL ALIEN children, driving without a license or car insurance, all the crime from stolen identities to rape, drugs and everything else.

It's time for ZERO TOLERENCE with these illegal aliens. It's time for them get out of this Country and back in their own Country where they belong. When we get rid of the illegal aliens, we will get rid of all the problems that go with them. THAT IS A FACT!

You are a jerk!

Ir's costing us BILLIONS to keep them here, so, GET RID OF THEM!

Believe me, Americans would like to have those jobs. We have 16 millions American out of work right now. We have 20 million illegal aliens in this Country right now. Not all illegal are working, maybe 12 million illegal aliens are working. The illegal aliens who are not working are draining us of all our social services.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSe3C5vMafM&NR=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_ZnX9JRo5M&NR=1

http://www.diggersrealm.com/mt/archives/002793….

http://www.kpho.com/video/18452473/index.html

WAKE UP susanil!

The groups they talked to is enought to scare the hell out of a Citizen. Our imigration system isn't broken it's allowed to be violated every day for the Global Industries and money people. We have laws to protect the citizens and for the almighty dollar is allowed to be ignored one hundred and ten percent. We have laws we live by. With the exception of the illegal aliens.. We are going broke because we have been made to hand our hard earned wages over to the Ilegals. They have a country, send them back, close the borders and I mean actually close it. Pick them up and deport them. Listen to the voice of the Legal American Citizens. I don't care if they seperated from their families, it was their choice to break the laws and enter our country illegally. Pull the plug on the anchor babies. They go home with the parents. We are a Nation of Immigrants yes, but can we say they did it legally? Legally doesn't fit in the vocabulary of the Alien, if it did, they would have done it legal to start with. Forget the second chance, they weren't brought here at gun point and no one stood there with a death treat and forced them to try to populate the word from where they sleep. Time to end it start rounding them up…..Anyone that votes for amnesty, federal or state will not be voted for in any relection. You go live with your Aliens in the country they slithered in from. We don't need the tax dollars they pay.
,all it is is sales tax on items they buy. A year of sales tax on a family of them wouldn't cover the cost of one months worth of food stamps they get off of the anchor kids.

I hope this A-hole fails! If you all want results, VOTE VOTE VOTE in next years elections. I'm an independent but would still like to see the Democrats ousted out next year along with their Medical and illegal immigration reform.

You are right on target Bob. Bring them out in the open and deport every one of them. The other that are the welfare supporters and believe in all the sugar tits the Government can throw out. We don't need a Nanny Government, we work for the tax money they are giving away. If your hungry or need to pay the light bill, get a job. There would be jobs if they get deported and cut off at the goody trauff. Honest work isn't going to kill anyone.

You know the Capitol crew owns things like Del monte, large vineyards etc. They have a need for us as well as the alien. Simple math the aliens work cheap and we the legal citizens are the benefit package for the for the large companies illegal aliens.

This isn't a political party thing, it's the survival of the US and It's legal Citizens.

I support immigration reform. I will pass.

Whether you support comprehensive Immigration reform or not, we all need to get it, we are pay for illegal immigration in one way or the other, therefore immigration reform is necessary. If the now illegal immigrants are legalised, they would invest in this economy by buying houses and boosting the economy via the mortgage market, they would buy health insurance and no more running to the emergency room at the expense of the hard working tax payer, running to charities for material support at whose expense? They would feel free to report criminals instead of hiding theirselves as to avoid deportation.
Besides if you are not a native American you are automatically an immigrant… it could be you great grand parents , your gand parents or your parents but they all were here as immigrants… that is why we all as American's would always accept it that we are a nation of Immigrants. Therefore stop calling people names because they support immigration reform and do not think that everybody would buy in to your views because you are so self centered or bias and would not want more immigrants here, come on, do you know that immigrants contribute to this economy? Wake up people this is the right time for immigration reform because everybody need to be free, that is what this nation is build on…Freedom to all!

How can anyone in their right mind support anther amnesty when the “One time” amnesty of 1986 was a total failure and directly responsible for the problem we now face with 12-20 million invaders? Who, in their right mind, believes in rewarding people that have shown a total contempt for our laws, our borders and this nation? Why even have legal immigration when one can simply break in, hide out for a few years, have a download or two, get free schooling, medical care, school lunches, subsidized housing (like Obama's illegal alien aunt) work off the books, etc?

I've heard every lie, myth and deception imaginable from the appeasers . About 95% of the pro-illegal arguments I've heard always start and end with “Boo-Hoo.” Go cry to your mommy, your therapist or Dial-A-Prayer but don't come whining to me.

All I want is for this government to enforce the laws, which they've adamantly refused to do.

You seem confused about crimigrants “contributing” to the economy; far from it. Crimigrants contribute to the irresponsible growth that has unbalanced our economy, and were the instrument that created the greatest mal-distribution of wealth and political power in our country's whole history.

The Crimigrant's economic “contributions” consists of driving down middle-class wages, which has massively padded the profits of their employers, (that's the part that's “good for the economy”) who then throw all the social costs of the crimigrants unto the social infrastructure. You know, education, medicine, incarceration, and so on. The American middle-class' greatest loss, besides their wages and dignity, is the loss of our educational infrastructure. You know, the educational engine of equality in our country.

Our educational system has degraded in parallel lockstep with the doubling of our population (ca) during the last 30 years. Our corporate class has pocketed all the money that should have been paid to keep our educational system effective as the population doubled. Our corporations profits were supercharged by avoiding paying the social costs of their massive expansion of cheap labor, in addition to the massive profits made off the cheap labor itself.

The crimigrants have accentuated the concentration of wealth in our country in other ways besides driving down wages and forcing the middle class to subsidize their social costs. The massive crimigration of the last generation has driven the costs of the “basics,” of food, shelter, energy, and medical care through the roof at the same time they have crushed wages. If you are a rich corporate bastard, these crimigrants have made these the very best of economic times. If you are an average working joe, the crimigrants have stolen vast amounts of your wealth and destroyed your social infrastructure.

This is not magic, nor is it a conspiracy. It's just simple supply and demand used against the citizens of this country by their corporate-bribed politicians and their foreign minions.
The massive influx of cheap illegal labor has provided the Labor Supply necessary to destroy the wages of the American middle and lower classes. The massive influx of cheap illegal labor has at the same time driven up the DEMAND for basic products and services, and therefore the prices, of every basic necessity used by the middle and lower classes. As the native American middle-class was drained of their earning power, so too were the costs of their basic needs driven through the roof.

In the political arena, we have wittnessed the spectacle of watching the basis of American Citizenship shifted from knowledge, adherence, and respect of the Constitution, which no one in our Government seems interested in obeying, to an economic definition of “citizenship” composed merely of economic and political obedience to the traitors who broke the legitimacy of our government a long time ago.

As the great Robber Baron immigrations between 1880 and 1900 destroyed our farmer democracy and replaced it with a corporate aristocracy, so too has this massive contemporary immigration fueled the evolution of our government from a corporate aristocracy into corporate fascism, while simultanously transforming our citizens into nothing more than consumers. This exposes the core of illigitimacy of our current government: economics and open corporate bribery has replaced Constitutional ethics and bottom-up citizen power as the basis of our political system.

Most important to the economic argument you offer is the fact that this bubble of irresponsible growth has reached its final extent, and is incapable of expanding any further. This model of endless irresponsible growth has come to a bitter end.

Even stealing as much of the world's oil as we can through war and supporting dictators, (which is getting sketchy, unreliable, and dangerous, as well as in violation of our basic principals) will not be sufficient to support our energy demand. We have run out of water across the nation. Our debts are unpayable, and our middle-class can no longer make up for their lost earning power by consuming on credit.
Our markets and the value of our dollar are going to come down the the level of value that can be supported by the severely damaged productivity and purchasing power of our middle-class.
That level is going to be very low for a very long time. This era of crimigration and irresponsible growth has come to its enevitable messy end.

As a nation we are incapable of affording any more of the irresponsible “growth” that has looted our economy, destroyed our middle class, ravaged our environment, and corrupted our most fundamental political principals, all to feed the greed and profits of our corporate masters. It's over. It's time to settle the score, and restore our democratic process.

If I was a crimigrant, I'd start running for the border, while I still could. Things are going to get very ugly.

You seem confused about crimigrants “contributing” to the economy; far from it. Crimigrants contribute to the irresponsible growth that has unbalanced our economy, and were the instrument that created the greatest mal-distribution of wealth and political power in our country's whole history.

The Crimigrant's economic “contributions” consists of driving down middle-class wages, which has massively padded the profits of their employers, (that's the part that's “good for the economy”) who then throw all the social costs of the crimigrants unto the social infrastructure. You know, education, medicine, incarceration, and so on. The American middle-class' greatest loss, besides their wages and dignity, is the loss of our educational infrastructure. You know, the educational engine of equality in our country.

Our educational system has degraded in parallel lockstep with the doubling of our population (ca) during the last 30 years. Our corporate class has pocketed all the money that should have been paid to keep our educational system effective as the population doubled. Our corporations profits were supercharged by avoiding paying the social costs of their massive expansion of cheap labor, in addition to the massive profits made off the cheap labor itself.

The crimigrants have accentuated the concentration of wealth in our country in other ways besides driving down wages and forcing the middle class to subsidize their social costs. The massive crimigration of the last generation has driven the costs of the “basics,” of food, shelter, energy, and medical care through the roof at the same time they have crushed wages. If you are a rich corporate bastard, these crimigrants have made these the very best of economic times. If you are an average working joe, the crimigrants have stolen vast amounts of your wealth and destroyed your social infrastructure.

This is not magic, nor is it a conspiracy. It's just simple supply and demand used against the citizens of this country by their corporate-bribed politicians and their foreign minions.
The massive influx of cheap illegal labor has provided the Labor Supply necessary to destroy the wages of the American middle and lower classes. The massive influx of cheap illegal labor has at the same time driven up the DEMAND for basic products and services, and therefore the prices, of every basic necessity used by the middle and lower classes. As the native American middle-class was drained of their earning power, so too were the costs of their basic needs driven through the roof.

In the political arena, we have wittnessed the spectacle of watching the basis of American Citizenship shifted from knowledge, adherence, and respect of the Constitution, which no one in our Government seems interested in obeying, to an economic definition of “citizenship” composed merely of economic and political obedience to the traitors who broke the legitimacy of our government a long time ago.

As the great Robber Baron immigrations between 1880 and 1900 destroyed our farmer democracy and replaced it with a corporate aristocracy, so too has this massive contemporary immigration fueled the evolution of our government from a corporate aristocracy into corporate fascism, while simultanously transforming our citizens into nothing more than consumers. This exposes the core of illigitimacy of our current government: economics and open corporate bribery has replaced Constitutional ethics and bottom-up citizen power as the basis of our political system.

Most important to the economic argument you offer is the fact that this bubble of irresponsible growth has reached its final extent, and is incapable of expanding any further. This model of endless irresponsible growth has come to a bitter end.

Even stealing as much of the world's oil as we can through war and supporting dictators, (which is getting sketchy, unreliable, and dangerous, as well as in violation of our basic principals) will not be sufficient to support our energy demand. We have run out of water across the nation. Our debts are unpayable, and our middle-class can no longer make up for their lost earning power by consuming on credit.
Our markets and the value of our dollar are going to come down the the level of value that can be supported by the severely damaged productivity and purchasing power of our middle-class.
That level is going to be very low for a very long time. This era of crimigration and irresponsible growth has come to its enevitable messy end.

As a nation we are incapable of affording any more of the irresponsible “growth” that has looted our economy, destroyed our middle class, ravaged our environment, and corrupted our most fundamental political principals, all to feed the greed and profits of our corporate masters. It's over. It's time to settle the score, and restore our democratic process.

If I was a crimigrant, I'd start running for the border, while I still could. Things are going to get very ugly.

I own a distribution company. I have had to fire 16 Americans over the past 9 months. Out of a crew of 12 employess I have only 2 Americans that are working with me right now. you know what??? Americans are SPOILT. Too many of them have drug problems and smoke pot and drink alcohol every day. They don't show up for work on time and always has a reason to take days off or call sick. I have 10 hispanics that are working with and they are all solid. Very focused at work. They value their job thats bringing them bread and butter. The Americans I had to fire are very interested in collecting unemployment benefits and stuff like that. this is pretty sad.

With 10% unemployment (probably more like 17%) amnesty for law-breaking job thieves and other cheap foreign labor dumping schemes are opposed by the vast majority of most American voters. We will be watching their votes on this very carefully on this. You are biting off more than you can chew with this one.

If i lie in an applacation regardless for what reason i lose the job,and liable for falsafying documents and im an American citizen,now what gives people that come to this country illigally the right to do just that,and why is there people in congress supporting law breaking,and allowing people to break the law continuesly,I beleive it is illigal for our leaders to support illigal activity,Those kind of leaders send out the wrong messege to our youth,it tells them that it is ok to break the law as long as you do it for your family,if an American breaks the law,and uses the excuse that he or she is doing it to feed there family does that make it right or do we end up in jail ,I think Mr Gutierrez is in the wrong side of the border and not representing the American people but representing illigal activity.I personaly beleive that is agenst the law

Rampant population growth threatens our economy and quality of life. Immigration, both legal and illegal, are fueling this growth. I'm not talking about environmental degradation or resource depletion. I'm talking about the effect upon rising unemployment and poverty in America.

I should introduce myself. I am the author of a book titled “Five Short Blasts: A New Economic Theory Exposes The Fatal Flaw in Globalization and Its Consequences for America.” To make a long story short, my theory is that, as population density rises beyond some optimum level, per capita consumption of products begins to decline out of the need to conserve space. People who live in crowded conditions simply don’t have enough space to use and store many products. This declining per capita consumption, in the face of rising productivity (per capita output, which always rises), inevitably yields rising unemployment and poverty.

This theory has huge implications for U.S. policy toward population management, especially immigration policy. Our policies of encouraging high rates of immigration are rooted in the belief of economists that population growth is a good thing, fueling economic growth. Through most of human history, the interests of the common good and business (corporations) were both well-served by continuing population growth. For the common good, we needed more workers to man our factories, producing the goods needed for a high standard of living. This population growth translated into sales volume growth for corporations. Both were happy.

But, once an optimum population density is breached, their interests diverge. It is in the best interest of the common good to stabilize the population, avoiding an erosion of our quality of life through high unemployment and poverty. However, it is still in the interest of corporations to fuel population growth because, even though per capita consumption goes into decline, total consumption still increases. We now find ourselves in the position of having corporations and economists influencing public policy in a direction that is not in the best interest of the common good.

The U.N. ranks the U.S. with eight third world countries – India, Pakistan, Nigeria, Democratic Republic of Congo, Bangladesh, Uganda, Ethiopia and China – as accounting for fully half of the world’s population growth by 2050. It's absolutely imperative that our population be stabilized, and that's impossible without dramatically reining in immigration, both legal and illegal.

If you’re interested in learning more about this important new economic theory, I invite you to visit my web site at OpenWindowPublishingCo.com where you can read the preface, join in my blog discussion and, of course, purchase the book if you like. (It's also available at Amazon.com.)

Pete Murphy
Author, “Five Short Blasts”

Omg I cAnt belive you people are beeing this racist about eligal immagrants sure they broke the law but they still pay taxes each time they go buy something so thats one way they countribute to the economy!and also alot of people keep saying that they just keep going to the emergency room and stufff
but its not a wast of money they built our infrastructure if not for them or infrustracture would be crepling down by know.yes they came here eligaly but they did not come here by there own choice they had to come here so they could feed there children if you where in there place you would have done the same thing!sure the anmesty of 1986 was not haddle well and im not saying give they a free anmesty no of course not make then pay a fine and learn english and give them a clear path to citizenship !

Omg I cAnt belive you people are beeing this racist about eligal immagrants sure they broke the law but they still pay taxes each time they go buy something so thats one way they countribute to the economy!and also alot of people keep saying that they just keep going to the emergency room and stufff
but its not a wast of money they built our infrastructure if not for them or infrustracture would be crepling down by know.yes they came here eligaly but they did not come here by there own choice they had to come here so they could feed there children if you where in there place you would have done the same thing!sure the anmesty of 1986 was not haddle well and im not saying give they a free anmesty no of course not make then pay a fine and learn english and give them a clear path to citizenship !

sounds like a lot of the comments are from religeous zeallotts that would sell us all out to get more cash in thier catholic churches and more cash for pedofile priests to pay off thier victims. i would like to know some of the last names of the ones that are pro illegal, ill bet most are like gonzalis or rayes. what do you think.