Michele Bachmann Weighs In on 9/11 Trials
Friday, December 11, 2009 at 8:48 am
Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.) and the National Review’s Andrew McCarthy teamed up with other House Republicans on Thursday on the front steps of the Supreme Court to take a shot at President Obama and Attorney General Eric Holder for deciding to try Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and the other alleged co-conspirators of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks in U.S. federal courts.
“The decision to try Khalid Sheikh Mohammed in New York City and give him all the benefits and perks reserved for American citizens is a slap in the face of the 9/11 victim’s families, the American people, and the men and women who risk their lives to defend our liberties each and every day,” said Bachmann in a statement released after the press conference.
Curiously, many of those protesting the accused terrorists’ trial in federal court repeatedly refer to a federal court trial and its attendant due process rights as being “reserved for U.S. citizens.” At a rally last weekend in New York City, for example, protesters and speakers repeatedly objected that the 9/11 defendants were being given “the same rights as U.S. citizens.”
In fact, the “right” to be prosecuted in a U.S. federal court has never been “reserved” for U.S. citizens at all. It’s historically been a “right” accorded to anyone who commits a crime on U.S. soil. Thus everyone from a U.S.-born citizen to an illegal alien who commits a federal crime in the United States gets tried in federal court. Although the government has just recently created special military commissions to try some crimes against U.S. military targets abroad, we don’t normally create new courts or legal systems to try non-citizens who commit mass murder, mail fraud, or any other crimes that might land them in federal court.
“If President Obama admits that we are a nation at war, then we should act like one,” continued Bachmann in her statement. “Justice for the 9/11 attackers should be swift and conclusive, something that won’t be done when KSM exploits the abundant appeals and legal loopholes he has been inexplicably awarded as a foreign combatant,” said Bachmann.
Bachmann didn’t mention that there have been only three military commission trials since they were created by President George W. Bush because detainees challenged the constitutionality of the military commissions — and won.
The proceedings that began last week under the supposedly new-and-improved military commissions signed into law by President Obama already suggest that we’ll be seeing more of the same.
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Comment posted December 11, 2009 @ 10:51 am
Ms. Eviatar, I love your work, but you really have to stop quoting anything Michelle Bachman she has to say. None of it is worth repeat
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Comment posted December 11, 2009 @ 12:39 pm
It may not be worth repeating, but it is good for a laugh, and worthy of all the ridicule it richly deserves. And the contrast between the conservative treatment of the previous “war time president” and the present one is pretty jarring.
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Comment posted December 11, 2009 @ 2:29 pm
Please show me where in our Constitution declared enemies of the United States are to be afforded equal protection under our laws during war. I'll help you out; it is not there and has never been done. As Senator Lindsey Graham pointed out on November 13, 2009 to AG Eric Holder, never in our history have enemy combatants, lawful or unlawful, be brought into federal court for war crimes.
Before you argue over what constitutes the enemy, if where KSM and his 4 fellow conspirators were captured in what would be considered a battlefied, or that this is not a war, I will quote for you the still in effect (and used by President Obama) 'Authorization for Use of Military Force' as passed on September 18, 2001, “That the President is authorized to use all necessary and appropriate force against those nations, organizations, or persons he determines planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored such organizations or persons, in order to prevent any future acts of international terrorism against the United States by such nations, organizations or persons.” Congress set no territorial limits — this war is wherever we take the fight or are attacked — and they clearly meant for that and future Presidents to treat terrorists as enemy combatants to be attacked.
On September 11, innocent civilians in the air and on the ground were the primary target and 2,921 of them were slaughtered. At what was a secondary target, the Pentagon, 55 active duty soldiers, sailors, and airmen were Killed in Action when an unlawful enemy combatant overshot the White House and Capitol area, banked hard right and down, and struck them with a commercial airliner that had been turned into a weapon of mass destruction. Both targeting civilians and non-uniformed enemies attacking military targets are both violations of the Geneva Conventions.
I defer to FDR, Lincoln, Truman, and Washington would all disagree with AG Holder's decision. And having both served a career in the Army and lost family and friends on 9/11, I see Obama's failure to override Holder's decision as a negligent failure to exercise his Commander-in-Chief authority.
Comment posted December 11, 2009 @ 5:11 pm
Nice summary, but when will you Americans stop calling non-Americans “aliens”? It is a reference frame used deliberately to dehumanize people who move to the States without papers in order to work. It does not belong in an article that is otherwise non-ideological.
Comment posted December 11, 2009 @ 5:28 pm
Presumably, members of Congress take an oath to uphold and defend the Constitution. Perhaps we should make them take an oath to read it and take a comprehension test. They don't have to agree with the document, just honor their oath.
Comment posted December 11, 2009 @ 5:34 pm
Wars are between nation states. By your lights, we may as well say we were at war with the James gang or Bonnie and Clyde. You don't have to like the Constitution, you just have to follow it, or amend it.
As well, you people have to stop telling the lie that all of the 9/11 families agree with you.
Comment posted December 11, 2009 @ 5:58 pm
The term is (or, at least, has been) applied to *all* non-citizens, not just those without papers. When I first moved here in '73, I got something called “Alien registration card”, which served as my ID until I finally got my citizenship. As it was also called (informally) a “green card”, I used to refer to myself as a “green alien form a red country” (I came from then-socialist Poland)
Comment posted December 11, 2009 @ 6:30 pm
12-11-2009
Negist Berihun
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Dear:
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On 12-04-2009 someone was at my sleep produce fake documents and drugs me for 16 hours on 12-06-2009, and will you help me to stop these nightmares.
Thank you kindly
Negist Berihun
12-11-2009
Negist Berihun
I sleep loop 410 and Bandera bridges San Antonio TX 78238, please contact me in person polices do not allowed me to get emails, letters and phone calls P box 39232 San Antonio TX 78218 , Chalkart29@gmail.com
Dear:
My name is Negist Berihun and I was born Ethiopia and I am Christian. I am righting you my human rights and civil rights are violated and ACLU TX knows. On 2003 I was working Lowe’s inc. a black human resource manger, Ms. Angelic Cunningham lies and tells store manager that I know Lowe’s inc. fake stolen that time I have no knowledge. She set up me. Then store manger put me to Gwinnett County polices. On 2008 I went ACLU San Antonio chapter I meet Vice President Mr. Everett Turner at his office. While I was talking about my civil right and human right violation he got a phone called a man told him she does not like black don’t take it. Why the government Microchip implanted and other me 1992 or 1993 at West Georgia College in the state of Georgia that the man told him “THEY THOUGHT SHE IS AN ARAB.” Mr. Turner repeated the sentence and he was happy, and who and why Microchip implanted 1982, 2007 or 2008 in my house in my sleep, even the man Microchips implanted me came with me from Georgia to Texas and place where I employed in Texas. Who and why inject me drugs and water boarding torture me in my house in the state of Georgia and Texas all other things. I heard all the conversation, and then I said to him I like black, that is not true. He said “I did not say that but they told me. He admitted it and he refused to help me.” Again I went to his office when I got his office he got the news about my case against the mortgagee company took my house illegally and dismissed illegally and he was so happy that I lost my house nobody’s fingerprint will be found.
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Thank you Kindly, Negist Berihun
Comment posted December 11, 2009 @ 11:19 pm
Hopefully, this is step I in restoring the Rule of Law in America. It begins the process of reaffirming our values. Step II should be reining in other abuses of power. We now have 1.1 million people on Watch Lists, 100 fusion centers around the country with little oversight. We are allowing firemen to report suspicious individuals to fusion centers, databasing that information, and then, subjecting them to surveillance and harassment. The Bill of Rights Defense Committee has said COINTELPRO 2009 is back. It's time to reread the Church Committee Report now available in paperback (Intelligence Activities and the Rights of Americans) and to see what needs to be done to stop the FBI's surveillance and harassment of people who have engaged in no criminal activity – the typical “mission creep” which targets critics of government policy – not terrorists. Go to http://www.feingold.senate.gov/ruleoflaw/hearing.html to see testimony from Senator Feingold's hearing on Restoring the Rule of Law where you can read other steps we need to take to reverse George Bush's assault on our constitutional liberties.
Comment posted December 12, 2009 @ 1:13 pm
I don't know why anyone still pays attention to this whacked-out psycho.
Putting words in the mouths of the 9-11 families is really the lowest. Quit using these people as political footballs. They have suffered enough.
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Comment posted December 22, 2009 @ 9:50 pm
why give these People a Trial at all ? in Michelle Bachman,s mind they are tried and convicted before any hearing already. is this the kind of Democracy we are peddling ? these People were arrested on phony information, have never been linked to any crime and they should be released with an official apology.
watch out, the World is watching and they are becoming more and more frustrated over our constant trampling on Human Rights.
Comment posted December 22, 2009 @ 11:59 pm
Join the Facebook Group – Urge President Obama to Support a Truth Commission. Let's try to get 1,000,000 people to join. Maybe together we can get President Obama's attention.
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Comment posted December 23, 2009 @ 2:50 am
why give these People a Trial at all ? in Michelle Bachman,s mind they are tried and convicted before any hearing already. is this the kind of Democracy we are peddling ? these People were arrested on phony information, have never been linked to any crime and they should be released with an official apology.
watch out, the World is watching and they are becoming more and more frustrated over our constant trampling on Human Rights.
Comment posted December 23, 2009 @ 4:59 am
Join the Facebook Group – Urge President Obama to Support a Truth Commission. Let's try to get 1,000,000 people to join. Maybe together we can get President Obama's attention.
http://www.theintrovertspeaks.com
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