Your Week in Birthers

[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by George Larson II, WashIndependent. WashIndependent said: Your Week in Birthers http://bit.ly/8BFekf [...]

Leo Donofrio has shut down his blog and apparently given up the birther cause.

Orly's case Cook v. Good was tossed out of the 11th circuit court of appeals because Orly failed to file a brief in the case (she no longer has the help of Charles Lincoln III to write her pleadings for her).

Speaking of Charles Lincoln, he may very well go back to jail soon for practicing law without a license in Florida. While working as Orly's law clerk.

And today (dec. 1) a Grand Jury in Monroe County TN is supposed to hear testimony from a birther nut charging Obama with treason, even though a state grand jury would have no jurisdiction in such a case.

If only there were someone with 24 brain cells left who could call Weigel a liar (based on the fact that Weigel does not adopt his particular deranged, fact-free, birther view of everything), and beg us to visit his website for proof. And we're all agents of Soros and Obama, or something. Also. Too.

Sounds like a lot of illegitimacy to me. Ironic, wouldn't you say?

DAMN……DOES NOT TAKE MUCH TO MINDFUCK YOUR STUPID ASS HUH?

i think mantis was being whimsical.

I am speaking as a retired lawyer with 40 years of experience. Orly reminds me of a spoiled 5 year old child who throws a tantrum when she does not get her own way. She wants the courts to abandon due process, jurisdiction of the subject matter. jurisdiction of the parties, venue, separation of powers, checks and balances, stare decisis, and precedent so that she can get what she wants. When she does not get what she wants she launches into the most vile attacks on the courts, judges, the President, etc.

As an active lawyer with only about half your years of experience, I wholeheartedly agree. The birthers who have never argued a case cannot possibly imagine how lenient the judges are being with Orly. The statements she has made accusing federal judges of being “traitors” because they ruled against her go far beyond the most reprehensible conduct toward the court I have ever witnessed.

One other similarity to a five-year old: when anything bad happens to Orly, it is always someone else's fault.

I'm just a caveman, and your modern world frightens and confuses me, and even I know Orly's a deranged attention whore who will say and do anything to get herself another appearance on FOX News.

Has Orly actually been interviewed on FOX? I know that she has been on MSNBC (David Shuster, I think) and of course on Colbert. But I thought I heard that FOX has not had her on. And Bill O'Reilly (who knows nuts) has called her crazy.

Could it be that Orly is so embarrassing that the only people who will interview her are those who are doing it for laughs?

Has Orly actually been interviewed on FOX?

I should have said the moving painting box, which I thought only displayed FOX News. The talking box confuses me, and I don't know how to use it.

I'm just a caveman, and you I assume are ghosts communicating from within the glowing book I found. Don't ask how I learned to type.

Oh, there's going to be a positive orgy of shrieking and raving from the birthers when Orly Taitz is finally facing disbarment.

As for the Washington Times, it is losing more money than evidently even Rev. Moon can cover, fired most of its editorial staff, and has a circulation of fewer than 40,000. The phrase “stick a fork in it, it's done” seems apropos.

If your moving painting box only displays FOX News, you might want to toss it out of your cave and onto a heap of mammoth dung, where the box, and the Foxes it contains, belongs.

In the future, can you put a warning label on any post containing the words “orgy” and “birthers” in the same sentence? I am going to have my brain steam-cleaned now . . .

Don't you love how the WashTimes is getting its ad revenue? Going out in style, like the cult rag it is.

And it was a year ago this week that I started the ObamaConspiracy.org web site.

Who would have thought that we'd still be discussing Obama's birth certificate a year a year and a half after a copy was posted on the Internet. I guess that just proves that conspiracy theories never die.

I thank you and the Washington Times for its in-depth coverage of the birther phenomenon. It's been a valuable resource.

Arghhh, I meant Washington Independent.

This birther trash is no longer news. They just haven't figured it out yet…….

Technically Obama was never a Natural-born U.S. Citizen and technically he was a legal citizen of another country when he first attended college. However these are mere technicalities. The man isn't going anywhere soon so we might as well accept the fact our laws don't apply to everyone and our constitution has been nullified. The guy is almost half-black, articulate and cuter than Curious George. Get used to it berftards!

Too bad you can't read. What you posted is a “Certification of Live Birth” a document which did not exist at the time of Obama's birth. The Kenyan document is the only authentic Birth Certificate produced to date and is probably the same one the state of Hawaii has on file. Whatever they have on file contains the information that proves Obama is not constitutionally qualified to even run for president. Obama's well-hidden half-sister Maya has the same COLB and she was born in Indonesia. Then as a boy Obama was adopted in Indonesia as Barry Soetoro(Saetoro). A vist to grandma's in Hawaii became permanant and then came college as a foreign student. We birthers are playing against a stacked deck and the truth may be covered up for years to come. My prayer is that at least my children will see the truth come out about this fraud and will remember me fondly when it does. Another sad aspect of this is that a fine man like Alan Keyes must suffer insult while the one who is dishonest is in the Whitehouse.

Orly's grip on reality is repidly unraveling. She seems to be unable to tell the difference between reality and fantasy. I think she actually believes she and others makeup.

About one month ago she, in one of her posts, refers to Obama as a “shaved babboon”. If this is not clear and convincing evidence of her racism, I don't know what would be…

What a remarkable imagination you have. Let me point out things you have said for which no evidence exists:

1. The Kenyan document is authentic (in fact the name of the person who purportedly signed it is misspelled as well as other obvious and not so obvious mistakes)
2. Hawaii has a Kenyan birth certificate on file (which is odd since they said had examined their records and they show he was born in Hawaii)
3. Obama's half sister is “well hidden” (speaking in front of the Democratic National Convention on Prime Time TV is not “well hidden”
4. Maya Soetoro-Ng has a Hawaiian birth certificate (which is impossible under Hawaiian law)

I hope your children have not inherited your deficiency in critical thinking skills.

Obama's well-hidden half-sister Maya has the same COLB and she was born in Indonesia

Not according to the birther Lawyer, Leo Donofrio. He asked the Hawaiian DOH and the have NO records of ANY kind for her in their files.

One more birther lie shot down in flames.

Actually that was from Charles Lincoln III. He compared Obama to a shaved Monkey in one of the legal briefs he wrote that Orly submitted to the court in her name. (Rhodes v. McDonnald)

Your nick ripoff is really pathetic.

Technically and actually, our President is a natural born U.S. citizen.

U.S. law trumps any foreign laws. Our President never renounced his U.S. citizenship. Our laws apply to you, a mentally challenged, freakish product of alcoholism and child abuse with the attention span of a fruit fly.

You're an idiot and your desperate sarcasm is a sad cry for help.

You are such an idiot. Even Donofrio debunked the Maya COLB baloney. No way Obama was born in Kenya when his mama was NEVER in the country according to the Kenyan Government. Obama was NEVER adopted. Man, you are batting 1000 — a perfect record of crap. Read this:

http://www.buffalonews.com/494/story/554495.html

It was Aug. 4, 1961, at Kapi’olani Medical Center for Women & Children in Honolulu.

“I may be the only person left who specifically remembers his birth. His parents are gone, his grandmother is gone, the obstetrician who delivered him is gone,” said Nelson, referring to Dr. Rodney T. West, who died in February at the age of 98. Here’s the story: Nelson was having dinner at the Outrigger Canoe Club on Waikiki Beach with Dr. West, the father of her college friend, Jo-Anne. Making conversation, Nelson turned to Dr. West and said: “‘So, tell me something interesting that happened this week,’” she recalls.

His response: “Well, today, Stanley had a baby. Now that’s something to write home about.”

The new mother was Stanley (later referred to by her middle name of Ann) Dunham, and the baby was Barack Hussein Obama.

“I penned the name on a napkin, and I did write home about it,” said Nelson, knowing that her father, Stanley A. Czurles, director of the Art Education Department at Buffalo State College, would be interested in the “Stanley” connection.

She also remembers Dr. West mentioning that the baby’s father was the first black student at the University of Hawaii and how taken he was by the baby’s name.

“I remember Dr. West saying ‘Barack Hussein Obama, now that’s a musical name,’” said Nelson, who grew up in Kenmore and went to Hawaii in 1959 to be in Jo-Anne’s wedding party. When Nelson was offered a job as a newspaper reporter and photographer at her friend’s wedding reception, it led to her living in Hawaii for 47 years. She returned to Kenmore in 2006.

Ten years after that memorable birth announcement, Nelson would hear the Obama name again. This time, the father, now a Kenyan government official, was coming to speak at the Punahou School in Honolulu where Nelson was teaching and where his 10-year-old son was a newly enrolled fifth-grader.

“Dr. Obama had this lovely, attentive manner,” she said. “When he answered the children’s questions, he would do it as a story, which is the way they do it in Kenya.

“His son, whom he hadn’t seen in eight years, seemed as fascinated as we all were,” said Nelson, who went on to be a high school principal, a harpist, a watercolor artist and poet.

A few years later, Nelson encountered “Barry” again, when she watched high school basketball games, where her students played.

Not to mention that Maya Soetoro-Ng has scarcely been “well-hidden.” She's been photographed at several Obama family gatherings, both before and after the President took office.

As usual, Red is substituting talking points and regurgitated nonsense for actual discussion. Very sad. Perhaps he should take up crochet or paint-by-numbers plaques for his luxurious mansionette triple-wide in the Florida swamplands?

Yeesh. Sorry!

As for the Washington Times, one can only hope. Now, if the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review would follow it into oblivion…..

Anyone who thinks that racism is not the ultimate source of this nonsense probably thinks that the Grand Central newsstand is available for sale as a fruit kiosk, the Statue of Liberty is about to be sold for scrap copper, and that there's a beautiful Gothic-inspired bridge between two of New York's boroughs that is for sale.

Then again, considering the IQ of the average birther….

Technically you're either a racist or a very bad satirist. Either way, ripping off someone else's handle is bad form.

I'm just a Tater from the Planet Russet…and Orly gives me nightmares!

Re: ObamaConspiracy.org

Thank you for your hard work, attention to detail and dedication.

Your site is a useful resource and quite entertaining.

Torment me no longer, internet ghosts!

As long as Mr. Richer Melonscape is losing money on his paper, it keeps him from spending those dollars on his other political projects (or his extramarital affairs). But I don't live anywhere near Pittsburgh, so I don't have to see that daily dose of journalistic ooze in newspaper boxes on the streets of my community.

[...] is the original:  Your Week in Birthers « The Washington Independent Tags: Afghanistan, Birthers, children, conservatives, country, economy, father, Mario Apuzzo, [...]

What “insult” has Alan Keyes suffered, other than his completely explicable repeated rejection by the American voters?

He ran as the Republican nominee for U.S. Senate in Maryland in 1988, and lost to Paul Sarbanes with just 38 percent of the vote.

He ran as the Republican nominee for U.S. Senate in Maryland in 1992, and lost to Barbara Mikulski with just 19 percent of the vote.

He ran for the Republican nomination for President in 1996. He lost.

He ran for the Republican nomination for President in 2000. He lost again. His best showing was in Utah, with 20 percent of the vote.

He ran as the Republican nominee for U.S. Senate in Illinois in 2004, and lost to Barack Obama with just 27 percent of the vote.

He ran for the Republican Presidential nomination in 2008. He lost. His best showing: 2.7% of the vote in North Carolina. He campaigned extensively in Texas, and got 0.60 percent of the Republican primary voters.

He sought the Presidential nomination of the Constitution Party in 2008. He lost at the party convention to Chuck Baldwin.

He was nominated for President in 2008 by the America's Independent Party. Victory at last! Of course, he formed the America's Independent Party.

In the general election in 2008, he was on the ballot in only three states: California, Colorado, and Florida. He received a total of 47,694 votes according to the FEC, or about 0.04 percent of the vote. (By comparison, Ralph Nader received over 738,000 votes).

Barack Obama has nothing to do with the unblemished losing record of Alan Keyes. Alan Keyes has everything to do with that record. Welcome to democracy. Alan Keyes has presented himself to the voters repeatedly, and the voters have repeatedly, and emphatically, said “NO.”

I was born in Pittsburgh and still have cousins in the area, so I'm unfortunately familiar with Richard Clintonhaterscape's little vanity project. A true story:

Three years ago my aunt Betty died. As I was the executrix of her estate, I went back to Pittsburgh to supervise the funeral, file the paperwork, and generally do what needed to be done to state the probate process in Orphans' Court. When I was at the funeral home, the person handling Betty's case showed me the obituary and asked how long I wanted it run in the Post-Gazette.

I cocked my head and asked about whether we needed to run it in the Trib as well. He shook his head and replied, “The only place they read it is McKeesport. Don't bother.”

McKeesport is pretty much a by-word for “depressed crime-ridden cesspit” these days. Not precisely what Mr. Gotbucks Conservative had in mind for his readership, which is why I had a good laugh as soon as I got outside the funeral home.

Same person was posting a few days ago as HRCin2012. I think what we may have here is a PUMA.

They actually exist? What a horrid thought.

More like a mangy, dumpster pussy.

My cat is insulted

Re: “What you posted is a “Certification of Live Birth” a document which did not exist at the time of Obama's birth.”

That, however, is now the official birth certificate of Hawaii, and it is the only one that Hawaii sends out. (http://www.starbulletin.com/columnists/kokualin…). To be sure, it is a current document, not a copy of the original, but Hawaii does not send out copies of the original anymore. How can Obama post a copy of the original if he does not have it (and it is very likely that he lost the copy of the original he once had)?

Re: “The Kenyan document is the only authentic Birth Certificate produced to date…”

The Kenyan certificate is a forgery. (http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageI…).

The National Review had this to say about the Kenya story: “The theory that Obama was born in Kenya, that he was smuggled into the U.S., and that his parents somehow hoodwinked Hawaiian authorities into falsely certifying his birth in Oahu, is crazy stuff.”

Re: “Obama's well-hidden half-sister Maya has the same COLB and she was born in Indonesia.”

Turns out she doesn't. She does not have a COLB. More important, in 1961, when Obama was born, it was not possible for a person born outside of Hawaii to get a Hawaii birth certificate. That was not allowed until 1982, more than twenty years after Obama's birth.

The Wall Street Journal commented: “Obama has already provided a legal birth certificate demonstrating that he was born in Hawaii. No one has produced any serious evidence to the contrary. Absent such evidence, it is unreasonable to deny that Obama has met the burden of proof. We know that he was born in Honolulu as surely as we know that Bill Clinton was born in Hope, Ark., or George W. Bush in New Haven, Conn.”

Red the Drooler fantasizes about Alan as his homophobic, anti-abortion hero that swoops him up in his big, manly arms and licks his face while whispering “usurper” over and over and over and over again.

Disclaimer: No self-respecting felines were harmed in the composition or context of my post.

“We can love our pets, we just can't LOVE our pets.”
- Abby (Janeane Garofalo), “The Truth About Cats & Dogs” (1996)

http://z.about.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/V/k/2/b…

I can not believe they are still going on and on about the birth certificate, citizenship, blah, blah, blah, nag, nag, whine and cry.

Please people. Listen up, read, whatever. Here goes.
1. Hawaii has been a state for 50 years. Pres. Obama is what, 47?
2. Pres. Obama was born IN the state of Hawaii.
3. He can not present you with a long form birth certificate as the state of Hawaii does NOT have a long form.
4. The state of Hawaii checked carefully and confirmed that Pres. Obama was indeed born in that state.
5. Pres. Obama's mother was always a citizen of the United States, so it really would not matter where on the planet he was born, he would still be a natural born citizen by parental birth rights. (check the law)
6. Sen. John McCain was born in Panama. However because at least one of his parents was a United States citizen, that made Sen. McCain also a natural born citizen. (Please people, you have to be consistent with your noise.)
7. It does not matter what his step-dad wrote on a paper for school when he was 7 years old. In order to give up his U.S. citizenship, Pres. Obama would have to personally, himself, have submitted IN WRITING to the U.S. government he formal request to withdraw his citizenship. Also he would have had to be at least 18 years of age. He has never done that.

What exactly is it bugging you people? (birthers)
Is it the fact the man's father is Muslim and not Christian? Get over it, not everyone is Christian.
Is it the fact that his father is black? Get over it, not everyone is white.
Is it the fact he is a Democrat? Get over that too, Republicans don't win every election.

Time for y'all to move on please. Bump those 2 little brain cells together and have an actual thought for yourselves and quit following idiots. You'll feel better. Trust me.

To the rest of you (non crazy) people. Thanks for letting me rant! ; )

Get your birther scorecard here

http://www.scribd.com/doc/23515247/Birther-Case…

all the birther fails listed.

Bo was born in Mumbasa Kenya. He also has duel citizenship in Indonesia which helped him get that Fulbright scholarship………must be important enough to spend $1.7 million on attorneys fees to hide this from us. Hows that voter remorse feel?

bahahaha… oh you are just adorable. 1.7 million you say?

This is a joke, right?

(1) There is no such city as Mumbasa in Kenya. There is a city called “Mombasa”. When Barack Obama was born in Honolulu on August 4, 1961, Mombasa was part of Zanzibar, not Kenya.

(2) Is “duel citizenship” the kind of citizenship where you are forced to have gunfights on main street at high noon?

(3) Fulbright doesn't give scholarships to Indonesian students for undergraduate studies, only for graduate studies.

(4) Barack Obama hasn't given you his birth certificate, but he has shared invoices from his attorneys with you? Where else did you get the figure of $1.7 million, and the billing detail to know exactly what the attorneys were working on?

How does stupid feel?

I call troll. Either that or it's someone so addlepated that they think the President's dog, who *is* named “Bo,” was born in Kenya 48 years ago instead of at a kennel last year….

Orly Taitz is now claiming that Brarack Obama was really born in equatorial Guinea and that under his real name of Roman Obama he studied law in Moscow.

I kid you not.

http://totalbuzz.freedomblogging.com/files/2009…

http://totalbuzz.freedomblogging.com/files/2009…

ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The show never ends! The more crazy ideas she comes up with, the more convinced I am that she is the one who is hiding something in her past. Wouldn't it be fun to see the paperwork she filed to become a U.S. citizen? Do you think maybe she misrepresented her past?

“The Lady doth protest too much, methinks.” — Wm. Shakespeare

Especially since Roman Obama looks about as much like Barack Obama as he looks like Calvin Coolidge.

Maya is “well hidden”? She campaigned for her brother. There are several Youtube videos featuring her.
And Alan Keyes is crazier than a mattress fulll of bedbugs.

I remember in 2001, shortly afer 9/11 the Washington Times cherry-picked several sentences and phrases from a speech by Bill Clinton and pasted them together to make it seem as if Clinton had said that we deserved to be attacked bt terrorists.
Bankruptcy couldn't happen to a more deserving rag.

The Kenyan document is the only authentic Birth Certificate produced to date and is probably the same one the state of Hawaii has on file. Whatever they have on file contains the information that proves Obama is not constitutionally qualified to even run for president. Obama's well-hidden half-sister Maya has the same COLB and she was born in Indonesia. Then as a boy Obama was adopted in Indonesia as Barry Soetoro(Saetoro). A visit to grandma's in Hawaii became permanant and then came college as a foreign student. We birthers are playing against a stacked deck and the truth may be covered up for years to come. My prayer is that at least my children will see the truth come out about this fraud and will remember me fondly when it does. Another sad aspect of this is that a fine man like Alan Keyes must suffer insult while the one who is dishonest is in the Whitehouse.

Anyone remember that song, “Another one bites the dust”. Well lets all sing it to poor Orly. Judge Carter just kicked her to the curb again. Are any of you people (who support the cause) really surprised? If any of you would actually take the time to look at just who these people are that are leading your charge and examine “their” credibility you might realize why Birthers have never, and will never win a single court case.

http://crazyinternetpeople.blogspot.com/

1. Why did the DNC certify Obama's [constitutional] eligibility only in Hawaii?
2. Why did no state DNC office, DNC elector, or Election Commission office catch it?
3. Since the DNC made no such certification, on what basis do we assume Obama to be eligible?
4. Without any such certification, isn't it more important than ever to see the actual birth certificate and ask the courts to make an official ruling on the definition of “natural born citizen?”
5. Why did the DNC use TWO different certification documents, one incomplete, when the RNC used the same complete document nationwide?
6. On what basis will the media continue to claim that Obama is eligible?
7. Why did Nancy Pelosi show signs of stress in her [signature on] Hawaii certification of Obama?
8. When will every American demand answers to these and many more questions?

Ha Ha Ha. You posted the same thing two days ago. Haven't had any new thoughts since then?

Moreover, eight people posted in response to your previous cut and paste, completely debunking every loopy statement you make. And instead of offering rebuttal, you just post the same lies again. Lame.

The answer to all your questions is simple

The President was born in Hawaii. Period. He is therefore eligible to be President, whether you like it or not.

Obama might have actually been born in Hawaii just not as a natural-born U.S. citizen. His mother was underage and unable to confer NBC status because she was married to a foreigner. His father was a Brit and hence any offspring of a Brit in 1961 was also a Brit. This explains exactly why no Hawaiian BC has ever been released. The college records probably reflect Obama as an Indonesian or Kenyan and that is why those records are sealed. The only BC that has ever surfaced is from Kenya where his grandmother claimed Obama was born. Any way you look at it the man has never been even once for half-a-second a natural-born U.S. citizen and is therefore illegally holding office. Obama is an illegal-alien.

Same shit, different post, and just as invalid as before.

The ONLY way my post would ever be “invalid” is when the imposter Obama releases whatever Birth Certificate he mentioned looking at in “Dreams of My Father” and his Occidental & Columbia college records. Even if hey pays somebody to doctor them up a little at least he should release those documents.

Saying it is so doesn't make it so.

Once again:

Same shit, different post, and just as invalid as before.

Speaking of which, I'm still waiting for your wife's tribal ID card, your daughter's adoption papers and proof of birth in Korea, and any evidence that your daughter's boyfriend was either in a gang or currently belongs to a church.

Put up or shut up.

The first hurdle will be having Obama produce his birth certificate, which so far he has refused to do, and prove that he was born in Hawaii on August 4, 1961, as he has always claimed. There is speculation that his American mother may have brought him to Honolulu shortly after his birth in Kenya, but no proof of that has been shown.
According to the law on the books at the time of Obama’s birth, the office of president requires that a candidate be a natural citizen if the child was not born to two U.S.citizen parents. Since he was not,sho uld it be proven th at Obama was not born in Hawaii, as claimed, he is ineligible without further debate. But assuring that he was born there, he has another problem.
According to a legal researcher who has contacted the AFP, U.S.law very clearly states:“If only one parent is a U.S.citizen at the time of one’s birth, that parent must have resided in the United Statesfor a minimum of 10 years, five of which must be after the age of 16.” And therein lies Obama’s new problem.
Then there's the alleged Indonesian adoption as Barry Soetoro(Saetoro), the attending college as a Foreign Student, passport to Pakistan in '81, multiple Social Security Numbers, Granny Obama's statement that BHO was born in Kenya, the Kenyan Birth Certificate & many birther-lawsuits which keep getting dismissed on technicalities.

Birth certificate was produced over a year ago, I'm afraid. And since the President was born in Hawaii, he is natural born.

Also, it seems that you haven't listened to the whole tape quoting his grandmother. She resisted repeated attempts by the birther interviewing her to twist her words, and continued to state, clearly and unequivocally, that her grandson was born in Hawaii.

MORE LEGAL WOES FOR OBAMA 12-9-2009 Chrysler v. Obama: Two lawyers have joined forces to assemble a case challenging in U.S. bankruptcy court the federal government's use of Troubled Asset Relief Program funds to bail out Chrysler and in doing so may have created a scenario that finally will bring to a head the issue of Barack Obama's eligibility to be president.
As part of the demand for information about the authority used, Donofrio confirmed, there will be questions about Obama's eligibility to be president. Donofrio contends that since by Obama's own admission his father never was a U.S. citizen, Obama was born a dual citizen. The framers of the Constitution, he argues, did not consider a dual citizen to be a “natural born citizen” as required for the presidency.
The burden, then, would shift to Obama and his administration officials to document their constitutional authority for their decisions and their handling of taxpayer money.
If the president cannot document his eligibility to occupy the Oval Office, his presidential task force had no authority to act at all, the case contends.

What, they let you out of the asylum?

What is “Natural Born”?? – Under the laws of nature, every child born requires no act of law to establish the fact the child inherits through nature his/her father’s citizenship as well as his name (or even his property) through birth. This law of nature is also recognized by law of nations. Sen. Howard said the citizenship clause under the Fourteenth Amendment was by virtue of “natural law and national law.”

The advantages of Natural Law is competing allegiances between nations are avoided, or at least with those nations whose custom is to not make citizens of other countries citizens without their consent. Any alternations or conflicts due to a child’s natural citizenship are strictly a creature of local municipal law. In the year 1866, the United States for the first time adopted a local municipal law under Sec. 1992 of U.S. Revised Statutes that read: “All persons born in the United States and not subject to any foreign power, excluding Indians not taxed, are declared to be citizens of the United States.”

Rep. John A. Bingham commenting on Section 1992 said it means “every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen.” (Cong. Globe, 39th, 1st Sess., 1291 (1866) Obama Sr., was at the time a British Subjet, therefore owing his allegiance not to America.

What is “Natural Born”?? – Under the laws of nature, every child born requires no act of law to establish the fact the child inherits through nature his/her father’s citizenship as well as his name (or even his property) through birth. This law of nature is also recognized by law of nations. Sen. Howard said the citizenship clause under the Fourteenth Amendment was by virtue of “natural law and national law.”

The advantages of Natural Law is competing allegiances between nations are avoided, or at least with those nations whose custom is to not make citizens of other countries citizens without their consent. Any alternations or conflicts due to a child’s natural citizenship are strictly a creature of local municipal law. In the year 1866, the United States for the first time adopted a local municipal law under Sec. 1992 of U.S. Revised Statutes that read: “All persons born in the United States and not subject to any foreign power, excluding Indians not taxed, are declared to be citizens of the United States.”

Rep. John A. Bingham commenting on Section 1992 said it means “every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen.” (Cong. Globe, 39th, 1st Sess., 1291 (1866) Obama Sr., was at the time a British Subjet, therefore owing his allegiance not to America.

Obama is NOT an Article II Natural Born Citizen and therefore is NOT eligible to be President. This is the biggest political cover-up in U.S. History.
see Kerchner et al v. Obama & Congress et al
visit http://www.protectourliberty.org
phone 732.521-1900

More birther B.S. The Constitution of the United States, as originally adopted, uses the words “citizen of the United States,” and “natural-born citizen of the United States.”

The Constitution nowhere defines the meaning of these words, either by way of inclusion or of exclusion, except insofar as this is done by the affirmative declaration that “all persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States.” In this as in other respects, it must be interpreted in the light of the common law, the principles and history of which were familiarly known to the framers of the Constitution.

The fundamental principle of the common law with regard to English nationality was birth within the allegiance, also called “ligealty,” “obedience,” “faith,” or “power” of the King. The principle embraced all persons born within the King's allegiance and subject to his protection. Such allegiance and protection were mutual — as expressed in the maxim protectio trahit subjectionem, et subjectio protectionem — and were not restricted to natural-born subjects and naturalized subjects, or to those who had taken an oath of allegiance, but were predicable of aliens in amity so long as they were within the kingdom. Children, born in England, of such aliens were therefore natural-born subjects.

The term “citizen,” as understood in our law, is precisely analogous to the term “subject” in the common law, and the change of phrase has entirely resulted from the change of government. The sovereignty has been transferred from one man to the collective body of the people, and he who before as a “subject of the king” is now “a citizen of the State.”

The same rule was in force in all the English Colonies upon this continent down to the time of the Declaration of Independence, and in the United States afterwards, and continued to prevail under the Constitution as originally established.

All persons born in the allegiance of the King are natural-born subjects, and all persons born in the allegiance of the United States are natural-born citizens. Birth and allegiance go together. Such is the rule of the common law, and it is the common law of this country, as well as of England.

The first section of the second article of the Constitution uses the language, “a natural-born citizen.” It thus assumes that citizenship may be acquired by birth. Undoubtedly, this language of the Constitution was used in reference to that principle of public law, well understood in this country at the time of the adoption of the Constitution, which referred citizenship to the place of birth.

The SCOTUS has already ruled several times on the definition of “natural born citizen” (PERKINS v. ELG; US v. Wong Kim Ark.)

It is without question that a citizen born on US soil is natural born. The US Code also defines provisions under which foreign born children are natural born. All we have now is a case of semantics, and the citizenship brigade trying to redefine long-understood definitions of natural born citizenship by creating arbitrary terms in an attempt to find a rope with which to hang Obama. Any “citizen at birth” is natural born. There is no intermediary classification between natural born and naturalized. You’re either one, the other, or not a US citizen.

If they want to change that, they’ll have to create a new law. No amendment would be required, as nowhere in the Constitution is natural born defined. Any law that gets passed won’t have any bearing on Obama, though. Congress will make certain of that.

Irrelevant. Otherwise, by your account a child born on US soil of illegal-alien parents would be entitled to be POTUS. NO WAY!!

Fourth cut and paste in a row. What are you trying to prove, that you know how to work the control V keys?

Now if Barry Soetoro AKA Obama would only quit hiding his vital records and make them public…after all didn't he promise to be transparent?? Or was that just another lie??

Original, vault copy birth certificate — Not released
Certification of Live Birth — Released — Counterfeit
Obama/Dunham marriage license — Not released
Obama/Dunham divorce — Released (by independent investigators)
Kindergarten records — Records lost by State of Hawaii
Soetoro/Dunham marriage license — Not released
Soetoro adoption records — Not released
Fransiskus Assisi School application — Released (by independent investigators)
Punahou School records — Not released
Soetoro/Dunham divorce — Released (by independent investigators)
Selective Service Registration — Released — Under suspicion
Social Security Number — Under suspicion
Occidental College records — Not released
Passport — Not released and records scrubbed clean by Obama's terrorism and intelligence adviser
Columbia College records — Not released
Columbia thesis — “Soviet Nuclear Disarmament” — Not released
Harvard College records — Not released
Harvard Law Review articles — None
Illinois Bar Records — Not released.
Baptism certificate — None
Medical records — Not released
Illinois State Senate records — None
Illinois State Senate schedule — Lost
Law practice client list — Not released
University of Chicago scholarly articles – None

So much for being transparent…or Just an accident? I don't think so.

Fifth cut and paste in a row. What are you trying to prove, that you know how to work the control V keys?
Why do you care? Worried?

*YAWN* Same shit, different post, and just as invalid as before. Another substanceless, namecalling, issue-avoiding waste of space.

At least we gotta' see the Birth Certificate Obama mentions in “Dreams of My Father” & the college records.

http://www.thepostemail.com/2009/12/24/britis…

Even Birther attorney Phil Berg admits that Obama is a natural born citizen. Here is what he said:

Obama is a natural born citizen. In Scales v. INS, 232 F.3d 1159 (2000), we have a clear definition of what natural born citizenship is. Scales' father was an American serviceman stationed in the Philippines where he met Scales' mother. They married despite the fact that Scales' mother was pregnant with him at the time. In all probability, the court said, Scales was a product of his mother's previous relationship. However, he was born after Mr. Scales married his mother, and he was treated as Scales' son.

Later, Scales was facing deportation because of an aggravated felony involving drugs. He challenged his deportation saying he was a natural born citizen. The court determined that natural born citizenship depends on the statute in effect at the time of the child's birth. Since Scales was born in 1977, he was a natural born citizen because a “person shall be a national and citizen of the United States at birth who is born outside the geographical limits of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is an alien, and the other a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, was physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less than ten years, at least five of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years.” Id. at 1169; see 8 U.S.C. §1401(a)(7) (1976).

Therefore, Scales was a natural born citizen despite the following: having been born in a foreign country, having been born to a non-citizen, having his American father later deny paternity (and prove non-paternity), and having claimed to be a citizen of the Philippines. Sounds like it is difficult to get rid of natural born citizenship.

Every one of your statements is wrong. Where do you get this crap? He was NEVER adopted, his mama was never in Kenya — that according to the Kenya govt. His grandmother insisted he was born in Hawaii, not Kenya. The state has certified his birth legally — case closed. Even birther nut Phil Berg knows Obama is a natural born citizen — read his statement above.

Hey ellid – Enjoy this Christmas Gift…The truth shall set you free. Read all about it…

http://www.thepostemail.com/2009/12/24/british-…

Not every American is delusional like you are.

Just because you are offended by the idea of a natural-born child of illegal immigrants becoming president, it doesn't mean that it couldn't or shouldn't happen. The law is not dependent on your feelings for its definition.
Any person born in the United States is a natural born citizen, period. It doesn't matter that you don't like it. If I should decide that the laws against bank robbery are unfair, I don't then have the right to rob a bank. The law says what it says. Our president is a natural born citizen and the fact that you don't want him occupying the White House in no way impacts on the fact that he is the legally elected president of the United States.

You present no facts: just the same old mixture of evidence-free speculation, outright lies and fantasies. The “issues” which you reference exist only in your head.

O HAI THERE BIRTHERPROUD. U IZ STILL RONG AND PRITY STUPID IF U THINKZ WE DOESNT REKOCNIZE UR CUTS AND PASTEZ.

Sorry, but I haven't cut and pasted anything, unlike you.

And oh, still waiting for your wife's tribal ID, proof that your daughter with the Japanese name is actually Korean, or that anyone associated with your family is either a born again Christian or a former gangbanger. When are you going to prove that you're not a hypocritcal liar? They're such simple things, and yet you clearly are hiding something since you won't release them.

Only if we can see your wife's tribal ID, your daughter's adoption papers, and some proof that your daughter's boyfriend was in a gang and is now a good Christian boy. Otherwise, shut up and show us your dentures.

WAY.

Cast out the beam from your rheumy old eye before criticizing me.

Sorry, but quoting the Bible to support your baseless crap is not very Christmasy.

Also, a web site somewhat to the right of the John Birch Society is not proof of anything. The President was born in Hawaii and is natural born, and all the bloviation in the world will not change this.

So basically it all still comes down to the original Birth Certificate & college records.

So basically it all comes down to you being a stupid person.

Please define “it.” It is impossible to tell what you are talking about, since the President's eligibility was verified over a year ago and his college records are not relevant to his qualifications for office.

Irrelevant. And you're still an idiot.

Did you demand Bush's college records? No? That's because you're a clueless bigot. Point out the section of the Constitution that demands college records to prove eligibility. You can't? That's because you're a bigot, a coward and an idiot.

STATEMENT BY HEALTH DIRECTOR CHIYOME FUKINO, M.D.
“I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, Director of the Hawai?i State Department of Health, have seen the original vital
records maintained on file by the Hawai‘i State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawai‘i and is a natural-born American citizen.”

You're wrong and you're an idiot.

So basically it all comes down to my dream ticket for 2012:
Sarah & Orly
you go girlz !

We? You and your sock puppets?
You have zero relevance, credibility or standing. You'll get nothing because you are irrelevant.

Your knack for self-description is downright uncanny, Red!

Barack Obama is exactly the reason for the Article II natural-born citizen requirement in our Constitution. Why wasn't this requirement adhered to? On the face of Obama's parentage is a direct violation with his father being a Kenyan-Brit. Even if by some chance Obama was actually born in Hawaii he STILL doesn't meet the natural-born citizen requirement. This is as plain as can be but still Congress refuses to SEE it, the Courts refuse to HEAR it & the Media refuses to SPEAK it.

Give me your Socialist Security# & wife's maiden-name. Sorry I mean Domestic-Partner.

Wrong from beginning to end. The President is natural born, he is no longer a dual citizen, his father's citizenship is irrelevant, and the Founders were not psychic.

As for you, you're a hypocrite. You demand documentation from the President that you won't produce for yourself AND you run whenever someone (like me) produces evidence that directly contradicts your paranoid little fantasies (like a direct quote from the Kenyan Department of Immigration laying out what a dual citizen must do to remain Kenyan). Disgusting.

You're wrong and you're still a bigot and an idiot.

Well, since you 'gotta' see the BC Obama writes about in his book, there shouldn't be any further question as to his natural born status.

You have to have two parents who are U.S. citizens and be born on U.S. soil to be president.

Fourth post of this theory, which is not valid now and never has been.

Unfortunately, Orly is just as good at being an attorney as she is at being faithful to her marriage vows.

How dumb can you be, Red? Sounds like dementia has set in. Even loony birther attorney Phil Berg admits it. Here is Berg's quote:

In Scales v. INS, 232 F.3d 1159 (2000), we have a clear definition of what natural born citizenship is. Scales' father was an American serviceman stationed in the Philippines where he met Scales' mother. They married despite the fact that Scales' mother was pregnant with him at the time. In all probability, the court said, Scales was a product of his mother's previous relationship. However, he was born after Mr. Scales married his mother, and he was treated as Scales' son. Later, Scales was facing deportation because of an aggravated felony involving drugs. He challenged his deportation saying he was a natural born citizen.

The court determined that natural born citizenship depends on the statute in effect at the time of the child's birth. Since Scales was born in 1977, he was a natural born citizen because a “person shall be a national and citizen of the United States at birth who is born outside the geographical limits of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is an alien, and the other a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, was physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less than ten years, at least five of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years.” Id. at 1169; see 8 U.S.C. §1401(a)(7) (1976).

Therefore, Scales was a natural born citizen despite the following: having been born in a foreign country, having been born to a non-citizen, having his American father later deny paternity (and prove non-paternity), and having claimed to be a citizen of the Philippines. Sounds like it is difficult to get rid of natural born citizenship.

Case closed.

The original Birth Certificate & college records please.

Uh, Gunny? We know all about your handles. You can go back to using one name instead of making up a new one every five seconds.

(Jan. 27, 2010) — On Jan. 25, Dr. Orly Taitz petitioned the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia for permission to question the Constitutional eligibility of Barack Obama to be president. She filed a “Motion for Leave of Court to file Quo Warranto,” listing herself as plaintiff and Obama as respondent.

Congress long ago provided a way to simply ask of an officeholder, “By what warrant (right) do you hold office?” Since Barack Hussein Obama has never established as a fact that he is a citizen of the United States, much less a natural born citizen as required by the Constitution, and since he has made every effort to conceal actual relevant records while staking his presidency on a possibly forged digital image of a secondary birth document posted on the internet, it would seem that Taitz has every right to ask that the court verify Obama’s eligibility.

Orly Taitz is, like you, completely and utterly wrong. She's also a deadbeat who refuses to pay court-imposed sanctions. Why should anyone listen to her?

Orly Taitz is, like you, completely and utterly wrong. She's also a deadbeat who refuses to pay court-imposed sanctions. Why should anyone listen to her?