Why Would Anyone Think the Bush Administration Botched Afghanistan?

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Tuesday, December 01, 2009 at 8:47 am

Politico reporters transcribe, you decide:

Cheney was asked if he thinks the Bush administration bears any responsibility for the disintegration of Afghanistan because of the attention and resources that were diverted to Iraq. “I basically don’t,” he replied without elaborating.

Right, and why follow that one up? It’s not like a high-profile Senate report demonstrated over the weekend that the Bush administration allowed Osama bin Laden to escape the battle of Tora Bora in December 2001, a crucial mistake that allowed al-Qaeda to regroup in Pakistan. It’s not like the Bush administration in 2002 refused to allow U.S. troops to perform peacekeeping operations that would have preserved the initial post-Taliban order, even as President George W. Bush issued an ultimately hollow promise for a new Marshall Plan in Afghanistan. It’s not as if later that year the Bush administration had its regional military commander focus intensely on an entirely elective second war fought for ultimately incorrect premises. It’s not as if security and governance deteriorated in Afghanistan for years while the Bush administration declined to increase troop levels or even focus on the Pakistani safe havens for al-Qaeda that the 2001 Tora Bora failure yielded, even as ground commanders publicly stated the war could not be won without dealing with them. And it’s certainly not like the Bush administration passed an unfinished war off to its successor in year eight amid record levels of insurgent violence.

None of that happened. That’s why Politico knows Dick Cheney would never lie to the American people or demonstrate poor judgment.

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billinchicago
Comment posted December 1, 2009 @ 11:58 am

All of this beats around the bush (no pun intended) of who is truly responsible for the rise of Al Qaeda and the Taliban, and how both the Bush and Obama administrations have refused to lift a finger to hold them accountable (or even acknowledge the extent of their culpability):

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I before E
Comment posted December 1, 2009 @ 12:25 pm

Politico, the most hacktacular paper, is run by Jim VanDeHei who was removed from the White House beat at WaPo because of his conflict of interest/ man love for George Bush. That his paper/web site is a cheer leader for these dopes should come to no surprise to anyone paying any attention.

http://www.dailykos.com/comments/2005/7/25/2172…


mstockinger
Comment posted December 1, 2009 @ 5:28 pm

There is no point in arguing with left-wing ideologues, so I wont. I will point out though that in the real battle of public perception, Obama is losing big-time. You can yak all you want about what Bush did or didn't do, all the public hears is, “blah, blah, dither, blah, blah, dither, blah, blah. The President compounds the problem by announcing that the 911 terrorists are going to be tried in New York City, in civil court. The reason there was such an overreaction by Democrat officials to Dick Cheney's comments is because he's echoing a public perception that has already taken hold, and Democrats are pissing their pants because of it.

Its a matter of record that when the Iranian student's stormed the U.S. embassy and took hostages, the Ayatollah Khomeni feared the bombing was imminent. When it didn't happen, they lost all fear and respect for Jimmy Carter. Its also a matter of record that within hours of Reagan taking office, the hostages were released. Ironically, the media's efforts to support Carter's reelection bid by casting Reagan as a maniac, was probably the best foreign policy action we could have taken.

I find it hiliarious to listen to the anti-war left lecture me about what Bush did or didn't do. The damage Obama has done to Afghanistan in the past few months is incalcuable by allowing and even promoting the public perception that he was deliberating about whether to send 30, 35 or 40,000 troops and whether to bring them back in three or five years. The Taliban are laughing their asses off, and recruiting like mad so that young men can share in the glory of burying yet another 'empire'.

Say what you want about Bush–unlike Obama–his enemies feared him.


nota bene
Comment posted December 1, 2009 @ 6:33 pm

Shorter mstockinger: There is no point in arguing with left-wing ideologues, so I'll change the subject, and do everything I can to distract myself from the fact that Bush/Cheney were too incompetent to capture Bin Laden.

Shorter shorter mstockinger: I clearly didn't read anything at all in the original post, and wear my ignorance like a badge. But look! Over there! MUSLINS!!


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Randolph Carter
Comment posted December 1, 2009 @ 7:49 pm

mstockinger said: “Its also a matter of record that within hours of Reagan taking office, the hostages were released.”

Right, because George Bush Senior's negotiations in Paris with the Iranian radicals PRIOR TO THE ELECTION had nothing whatsoever to do with:
1). the Iranians refusing to negotiate with the Carter administration
2). the immediate release of the hostages upon Reagan taking office
3). the continued flow of arms and weapons technology to Iran during the Reagan administration (See North, Oliver)

Thanks for clearing that up for me.


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bradmo
Comment posted December 2, 2009 @ 1:09 pm

As Dennis Kucinich so eloquently put it in a recent Truthdig interview (http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/kucinich_on…), “It's ridiculous that a former vice president gets the airtime to level unfounded criticism at the current president. Cheney — and Bush — should be answering questions about the Iraq and Afghani wars to a Senate panel investigating the false premises used to justify the invasion of Iraq.”


bradmo
Comment posted December 2, 2009 @ 1:13 pm

@mstockinger: Oh, so the real battle is public perception? I'm sorry, I thought the topic was war in Afghanistan. Thanks for enlightening me!

BTW, Bush's enemies feared him in the same way that Saddam Hussein's enemies did: Because they believed the lies he told. In fairness, Hussein probably knew he was lying, e.g., the nuclear program had been suspended, then dismantled per UN orders, and the Iraqi army was infested with corruption. On the other hand, Bush probably believed that his Iraq invasion would go as his father's did, and when that didn't happen, he surely thought that there was an inexhaustible supply of US troops.


brendanm
Comment posted December 2, 2009 @ 1:19 pm

Yeah, the Iranian and North Korean regimes were soooo deferential to Bush because they feared his mighty military bogged down in the pointless, illegal war in Iraq. Are you full-blown retarded or are you just spewing nonsense because you have no argument?


mstockinger
Comment posted December 2, 2009 @ 4:37 pm

Like I said, there is no point in arguing with left-wing ideologues…


brendanm
Comment posted December 2, 2009 @ 8:43 pm

Yeah, because you have nothing with which to argue and, even if you had a substantive argument to make, you lack the intelligence to do so. If you can't engage, just shut the fuck up.


mstockinger
Comment posted December 2, 2009 @ 9:37 pm

Like I said, there is no point in arguing with left-wing ideologues…


brendanm
Comment posted December 3, 2009 @ 1:43 am

Yeah, because you have nothing with which to argue and, even if you had a substantive argument to make, you lack the intelligence to do so. If you can't engage, just shut the fuck up.


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