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Holder Struggles to Defend 9/11 Trial Decisions

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Thursday, November 19, 2009 at 6:00 am
Attorney General Eric Holder (WDCpix)

Attorney General Eric Holder (WDCpix)

Attorney General Eric Holder surely knew he’d be facing a tough audience when he prepared to testify to the Senate Judiciary Committee on Wednesday. That may be why instead of delivering the written testimony he’d prepared, he focused his opening remarks on explaining his decision, announced last Friday, to try the alleged co-conspirators of the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks in a New York federal court.

But the Attorney General also announced last week his parallel decision to try five other terror suspects in the newly reconsistituted military commissions just authorized by Congress and signed by the President. Instead of pacifying Republicans, however, it has instead opened up Holder and the Obama administration to harsh criticism from both sides of the aisle. That quickly became clear in the aggressive, even hostile questioning from Republicans yesterday, and repeated expressions of disappointment from some Democrats.

In attempting to explain his decision at the justice department oversight hearing on Wednesday, Holder said: “I am a prosecutor, and as a prosecutor my top priority was simply to select the venue where the government will have the greatest opportunity to present the strongest case in the best forum. At the end of the day it was clear to me that the venue in which we are most likely to obtain justice for the American people is in federal court.”

Republicans, however, repeatedly cast the choice of a civilian trial as undermining the war on terror. “This is war,” said Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-Ala.), the ranking Republican on the committee. “I think the decision you’ve made to try these cases in federal court represents a policy and political decision.”
Holder denied that politics had anything to do with it, and confirmed that he, too, believes we are “at war with a vicious enemy.” Yet the decision to continue to characterize the struggle against terrorism as a war left Holder struggling even more to explain his decision to choose a civilian trial over a military one for the men he believes sparked the whole conflict.

“Prosecuting the 9/11 defendants in federal court does not represent some larger judgment about whether we are at war,” he said. But “We need not cower in the face of this enemy.”

“It’s not cowering in fear of terrorists to decide the best way for this case to be tried is to be tried by military commissions,” Sessions retorted. “You’ve indicated the military commissions can be used. I assume you believe a military commission can fairly and objectively try certain of these cases.”

Holder affirmed that they can. But Sen. John Cornyn (R-TX) used that to argue that Holder was exercising bad judgment, because the evidence against Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and his co-conspirators now could all be thrown out in a federal court because they weren’t read their Miranda rights when they were seized.

Graham, in his questioning, noted that using two different justice systems will confuse military officers who capture terror suspects in the future. “Under your decisions, the point of trial would not be known,” he said. “So what should the military do at the point of capture? Custodial interrogation rights and Miranda rights attach at that time. But they’re not normally used by the military. What do we tell our soldiers and commanders when they capture somebody about how to interrogate and when to interrogate?”

Any lawyer defending a terror suspect captured on the battlefield in federal court, Graham argued, would argue that “questioning of my client without Miranda warnings would be a violation of domestic law.”

Holder assured Graham that Miranda warnings aren’t usually necessary when the military arrests a combatant overseas, although he acknowledged that the decision is made on a case-by-case basis, and did not explain how those decisions are made.

Many Senate Democrats, meanwhile, although supporting the decision to try the 9-11 suspects in federal court, were equally disturbed by Holder’s decision to use military commissions to try other detainees.

“I commend you for your decision” to try the 9/11 suspects in federal court, said Sen. Russell Feingold (D-Wisc.) “But I remain skeptical of the decision to try five others in military commissions.” Feingold noted that more than 200 terror suspects have been prosecuted in federal court since September 11, 2001, including Zacarias Moussaoui, the so-called 20th hijacker, who was charged and convicted in federal court by the Bush administration, with no objection from Republicans. Now, “it’s disheartening to hear that people have so little faith in our system of justice,” said Feingold.

Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse (D-R.I.), a former U.S. Attorney, added that unlike the federal court system, military commissions are an uncertain system of justice, even with the recent congressional amendments that reauthorized them. Under President Bush, the commissions convicted only three people, which included one guilty plea, Whitehouse noted, adding that he had doubts about the new commissions “being able to contribute same kind of reliabity and resilience that federal courts have obtained through tens of thousands of cases.” “Even a perfect military commission still bears some kind of question,” he said. “They are still untested.”

The result is that their verdicts are likely to be appealed, which will only “lead to delay in the outcome of the proceedings,” said Dick Durbin (D-Ill.).

Sen. Patrick Leahy (D-Vt., the committee chair, echoed that worry. “The concern I have is that military commissions have repeatedly been overturned by the Supreme court and have very little precedent,” he said. By contrast, “our federal courts have 200 years of precedent.”

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16 Comments

evillemike
Comment posted November 19, 2009 @ 8:52 am

I didn't see how Mr Holder “struggled”. He tried to remind us that we are not a nation of pussies. Repubs are just always afraid of something – it's time they grew a pair and started standing up for the Constitution.

Hananova
Comment posted November 19, 2009 @ 9:05 am

Eric Holder, the racist who freed the Puerto Rican terrorists, now wants to give the terrorists who murdered 3000 Americans honorary American citizenship.

Hey Holder, I'm not AFRAID of this “trial”, I'm OUTRAGED..

I'm also outraged that you and Obama are sending a BILLION dollars to your buddies in Illinois to refurbish a prison when we already paid for them to stay in Club Gitmo. And that you are going to hire 3000 guards (30 for each terrorist). Nice that you pretend to be a real American and can spend my money.

I'm still waiting for you to prosecute the black racists who were filmed threatening to kill voters in Philadelphia. When are you going to do that?

Do you really think our constitution is just some large-size toilet paper?

BTW, anytime you want to talk about racism, (I'm not a COWARD), I'll be happy as sht to tell you just a few of the times me, my friends and family have been victims of violent black racism. But your ears are plugged up, you are NOT interested in any of that, you only want to hear if someone said the N-word (only if a white person used it). Then you and Obama'll come out, talking about “racism.”

Hawaiianstyle
Comment posted November 19, 2009 @ 12:33 pm

Terrorism is a crime against humanity.

Crimes are committed by criminals.

Criminals are pursued, captured and tried in civilian courts by local, national and international law enforcement officers. Attny General Holder does not have to defend this. He should be proud of his actions and we should be proud of him.

Lawfully convicted criminals are held in civilian prisons.

“Parallel Justice Systems” is an oxymoron foisted on a nation by those that have political agendas, not legal ones.

Have we raised “forum shopping” to a new level by “justice” system shopping?

Abolish Military Commissions for civilians. Abolish “Enemy Combatant” status by any name. Reaffirm Habeas Corpus. Reaffirm the Rules of Evidence.

The Constitution and the Bill of Rights are more important than any terrorist. If not then the terrorists have already won.

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chrisjay
Comment posted November 20, 2009 @ 7:16 pm

The political posturing by these Repub posers is beyond pathetic If they knew ANYTHING about the law they wouldn't make such ignorant remarks such as the one about Miranda—-just plain stupid—-Miranda is basically irrelevant in cases like these.
A bunch of sob-sisters from the Bedwetter Brigade: crawl back under your beds and hide there while the adults get the Constitution back in operating condition

olds73
Comment posted November 21, 2009 @ 12:30 pm

We don't want them here. Send them back to gitmo for somemore waterbroading. thats the way we do it in the U.S.A.

From the desk of the GOP

justamaz
Comment posted November 21, 2009 @ 2:02 pm

What's up with these blooming idiots that say the Republicans or the conservatives are cowards because they don't want the trial in N.Y.? Its the people with, a little common sense, that know they don't belong in N.Y.
These same idiots probably feel that you're a coward if you don't do your jogging down the shoulder of the freeway.

BurningFeet
Comment posted November 23, 2009 @ 3:53 pm

“This is war,” said Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-Ala.), the ranking Republican on the committee.

Well, ol' Jeffy certainly knows war when he sees it. When it was his turn “Chicken” Jeff Sessions somehow managed not to get drafted, using the well worn Chickenhawk War Path pioneered by Richard “The Dick” Cheney: deferment, deferment, deferment. Oh, true, he bravely signed up for the Reserves in '73, after graduating in '69. Wonder if he would have signed up if they did to the Reserves then what “Chicken” George did to them these days?

scampy1
Comment posted November 23, 2009 @ 9:45 pm

The British inquiry into the Iraq war starts Tuesday and will question the liar and war criminal Tony Blair and others on this disaster.
When will the American liars and war criminals Bush, Cheney ,Rumsfeld and others face such questions?

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Comment posted August 4, 2010 @ 5:30 am

why can't our gov't just end this trial thing? and once again, get our troops out of Iraq ASAP! people are dying for no reason!

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Comment posted August 10, 2010 @ 8:33 pm

I didn't see how Mr Holder “struggled”. He tried to remind us that we are not a nation of pussies. Repubs are just always afraid of something – it's time they grew a pair and started standing up for the Constitution.

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