GOP Rep. Garrett: ‘I Agree’ That Obama Should Produce Birth Certificate

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Wednesday, November 18, 2009 at 2:52 pm

It’s been a little while since a good confrontation between a birther and a member of Congress, but here’s one from last week: a constituent of Rep. Scott Garrett (R-N.J.) asking his congressman why Republicans won’t do anything about the “eligibility issue.” It makes for awkward viewing, as Garrett’s staff clearly wants a change of subject from an audience that seems to be fine with pushing the question. At around 4:40 in the video, the congressman finally engages.

“Obviously, there is no political solution to it,” says Garrett. “Even if the entire Republican Party was united on the issue–”

He’s cut off by another constituent. “Have him show his birth certificate! It’s as simple as that! None of this ‘talk about it, talk about it’ — just let’s see the birth certificate!”

“I agree,” says Garrett — who’s not one of the 12 sponsors of the “birther bill.”

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Antibirther
Comment posted November 18, 2009 @ 3:16 pm

Just more proof that politicians are asses who will say anything to anyone.


Jim
Comment posted November 18, 2009 @ 3:37 pm

Just more proof that the pubs had no clue about the can of worms they opened up by encouraging this kind of activity at town hall meetings. Now they get to face the monster they created…LOL


24AheadDotCom
Comment posted November 18, 2009 @ 4:41 pm

Maybe Weigel would care to one of these days correct the lie he told on the Maddow show. She ate it up; I wonder what would happen to his career if she were the one who walks it back first.


highnumber
Comment posted November 18, 2009 @ 6:14 pm

Tip for you, LonelyWhacker:
Stop posting links to your own site. Most people will visit there once then ignore everything you say, at best. At worst, well, you know what they do. Try posting links to actual news sources, or if you don't trust any of them, post links to pictures of kittehs.


Steve_X
Comment posted November 18, 2009 @ 7:23 pm

Exactly who do these birfer idiots think the President is supposed to “show” it to? How exactly is Obama supposed to “produce” something that's been available online for public viewing for over a year?


romulus
Comment posted November 18, 2009 @ 8:18 pm

what a fool you are….if you've seen obama's birth certificate, then what was his delivering doctors name you f***ing twat?????????? better still, how can an english citizen at birth be a f***ing natural born citizen egg head? no wonder your country is f***ed…..the majority of you use the MSM like some sort of “sesame street” learning aid for the middle aged and politically dimwitted……… you've been usurped moron….but let me guess, you don't know what that word means either??????


24AheadDotCom
Comment posted November 18, 2009 @ 8:23 pm

Shorter highnumber: “Dumb as I am, I realize I can never come up with a valid counter-argument, so I'll just smear”.


helpra
Comment posted November 18, 2009 @ 8:24 pm

lol, u mad? birthers are going to get courtesy smiles/symbolic DOA bills from republicans and nothing more.


helpra
Comment posted November 18, 2009 @ 8:26 pm

If this matter had any salt of truth why didn't McCain/Palin/Hillary bring this up ages ago? They have far more power than any online-degree lawyer-dentist or ex-truther could wield in terms of dirt digging.


romulus
Comment posted November 18, 2009 @ 8:28 pm

if by the monster you mean Obama, then yes, you're right…………but the challenge won't come from the party like you think it will……………you have no idea of the size of the storm thats about to blow in………..starting with one Chester A Arthur, and ending with Obama's political head on a chopping block for all to see! what do i mean? well, Arthur was a usurper too, which apparently, the courts in indiana have affirmed as fact just recently. if this is true, then your constitutional ammendments are flawed, and your legal system is in dire straits.if this is the case, then there is no 14th ammendment for example, which obama supporters cling to in their “obama is quallified” song and dance…..

so……………..lol…….indeed……..but lol'ing much more than you right now thats for sure……………when the penny does finally drop though, it will drop hardest for you………..cheer up, it can't rain every day :)


Jim
Comment posted November 18, 2009 @ 8:32 pm

Oh look, they let a monkey loose on a keyboard…isn't that cute! :-P


mrdavida
Comment posted November 18, 2009 @ 8:32 pm

Steve_X,

Maybe he should show it to Nancy Pelosi because she, as the head of the DNC was in charge of certifying Obama's eligibility. Instead she chose to alter the wording of the certification to exclude the reference to Constitutional eligibility.

http://www.canadafreepress.com/2009/williams091…

Now ya just gotta wonder why all this beating around the bush if the real BC, (not) the digital COLB, is just a $12 question. Give it up Mr. Transparancy


romulus
Comment posted November 18, 2009 @ 8:34 pm

why indeed…….they all had more to lose than obama moron…….who's to say obama didn't know clinton was involved in those murders for example, and lets say palins husband used to know the guy that supplied obama's mate with narcotics, and what about mccains wifes life, no dirt there for obama to exploit i spose? obama walked in with nothing to lose and everything to gain by dangling skeletons from peoples closets all over the place. these peoplestood to lose years worth of respect….obama could run to kenya and be a hero in any case………………so wheres the salt???????still in your f***ing eyes, obviously.


helpra
Comment posted November 18, 2009 @ 8:38 pm

Oh hey a Vince Foster fan. Seems alot of those people needed a new safety blanket to chew on when obama came to office.


romulus
Comment posted November 18, 2009 @ 8:41 pm

and thats about the size of the mentality and education of the average obama supporter. can he fix that, yes he can…………..hahahahahahahahaha, you twat. greetings from the land down under. Hey, how's that australian dollar looking over there…………..wow, 93 cent's usa?????? we look all good down here yeah???????, our queen and prime minister actually care about us, aint that somethin??????………..suck shit to you anyway, f***ing noob at life yank!


helpra
Comment posted November 18, 2009 @ 8:44 pm

If he released it the birther issue would deflate. The birthers are a convenient whipping post to point out how deranged republicans have become. Its no different from Bush acting sketchy about 9/11 issues with the truthers just to make the democratic party base seem like freaks still angry over the 2000 election. This is the main reason republican leaders are shy to touch it (its trap), but eventually they'll have to offer up a sacrificial lamb to get promptly slapped in the face with a folder full of the info birthers wanted.


helpra
Comment posted November 18, 2009 @ 8:46 pm

Not going to matter much when China and Malaysia start strangling off your oil/gas/mineral sources.


romulus
Comment posted November 18, 2009 @ 8:47 pm

try to stay on topic…i knjow the adhd is difficult to control, but for f*** sake, you americans are real f***ing”i love myself so much i can't possibly be wrong” aren't you? maybe i'll donate some cash to the local arab community instead of the jews for my next tax break down here in AUSTRALIA!……… you REALLY should look at who your pushing around before you start pushing them……..they might be HIDING something..like the fact that AUSTRALIA SHITS ON AMERICA, in politics, in business, and just in general everday life……………..you guys are YESTERDAYS HERO'S thanks to Obama…………..now move along, and be happy walking down the rungs of the ladder of life over the next 60 years! just like germany did, you freak egomaniac skanks!
ps…………..even our women are BETTER than yours, just ask mr Hefner!


helpra
Comment posted November 18, 2009 @ 8:53 pm

Your government doesn't even trust you to own and carry guns, along with having un-restricted internet access. That alone speaks volumes about the pathetic nature of your country. Enjoy your nanny state.


romulus
Comment posted November 18, 2009 @ 8:54 pm

like you know anything about how business works in OUR region dipstick! we don't NEED china's business to survive………….if you must know, we have ON SHORE reserves to last us 300 years at least that we know of…….we haven't even bothered to touch them……….the environment and all you know……but, with new technology, and the prospects of microwaving all our oil shale supplies into crude oil, we seem to have more on tap than we expected! you see, shale comes out of the ground with coal, which we export tonnes of too…….starting to see the australian way now? we have EVERYTHING…..one more time, EVERYTHING! we don't need america, china, russia, or afria to trade with. in the late 80's, before computers and technology, sure, we were sunk…………..but now we know what we have, where we have it, how to use it, and how to sell it………….. oh, one last thing………we have a lot more sunny days down here….which means solar energy is a vast untapped resource we can markey too. Australia, the land of the free and home of the brave……………how good does that sound hey egghead???????????


helpra
Comment posted November 18, 2009 @ 8:58 pm

lol, it might be on your soil but china is buying your mining companies up by the cartload.


romulus
Comment posted November 18, 2009 @ 9:01 pm

you might want to re-look at what garbage you dribble. I havew every right to own a gun….it just has to be registered, and i can't be a complete f***ing loon…..otherwise, there is no owning a gun……….I know, how about you just go giving guns to those people you have locked in mental institutions, and tell them, here, protect yourself because it's your right? you wouldn't be upset if the guy shot you first would you? as for the internet, i bet we have more freedom than you do right now! don't try and knock my country without knowing anything about it first. I know all about your country though, and i'm glad that pathetic ted kennedy is finally GONE! what a piece of shit he was. and why you let a man with a f***ing BRAIN TUMOR help set laws and opinions in your country anyway, i'll never understand. the moron should have pensioned off and locked in a hospital ward away from the world! thats my opinion though, which you may like about as much as I liked your little factcheck mission on australian politics…………cheers faggot!


romulus
Comment posted November 18, 2009 @ 9:06 pm

right on there………1000% even! give money to the hungry, not to lawyers to hide the truth from the peope


helpra
Comment posted November 18, 2009 @ 9:06 pm

Your internet is filtered and your guns are registered to make future confiscations easier. I wouldn't be proud of that bro (then again your saying self defense is wrong, but I cant blame you if you grew up in such a bad nanny state).


helpra
Comment posted November 18, 2009 @ 9:13 pm

He's actually saving money otherwise spent on political ads. $1.7 Million spent on trolling conspiracy theorists till ~40% of the opposition is up in a froth about secret-kenyan-mulism-usurpers and scaring away swing voters isn't bad, you'd have to spend far more on TV/radio/internet to pull that off normally.


Steve_X
Comment posted November 18, 2009 @ 9:29 pm

The delivering doctor's name is irrelevant to citizenship, and there is absolutely no law behind that “English citizen” nonsense. Have you even read the Constitution? It says nothing about dual citizenship. Try reading the actual document itself and not WND's message boards. You might actually learn something.

And why the fuck do you keep typing stars? If you want to curse then curse.


republicanstupidity
Comment posted November 18, 2009 @ 9:31 pm

DAMN!!!!! I KNOW YOU ARE GLAD THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO SHOW YOUR FACE IN PUBLIC YOU WOULD GET YOUR STUPID ASS LAUGHED OUT OF THE BUILDING!! YOU ARE STUPID!


Steve_X
Comment posted November 18, 2009 @ 9:31 pm

How do you know that she never saw it? Do you have proof that she didn't see the COLB, or are you just making up nonsense like all the other birfers? I'm betting it's the second one, since no birfer has ever presented any kind of proof of anything they allege.

And even if Pelosi saw either document and swore under oath that she did so, you wouldn't believe her anyway because she's be “in on the conspiracy” too. That's how the birfers operate: completely unable to deal with reality, they make up their own.

And before you ask, I specifically said the COLB because it is the legal state document used by Hawaii; the long form that birfers are so concerned about has no legal relevance at all.


republicanstupidity
Comment posted November 18, 2009 @ 9:31 pm

You seem to know all these details, where is the reciept for all these so called bills??


republicanstupidity
Comment posted November 18, 2009 @ 9:32 pm

HAHAAHAH another no teeth redneck


republicanstupidity
Comment posted November 18, 2009 @ 9:33 pm

WHO WAS YOUR DR?? OR YOU LIKE THE REST OF THE UNEDUCTED REDNECK ASSHOLES FOUND IN A CABBAGE PATCH OVER BY THE OUTHOUSE?


republicanstupidity
Comment posted November 18, 2009 @ 9:35 pm

ANOTHER NO DICK PUSSY WITH A GUN THAT MAKES HIM THINK HIS DUMBASS IS A MAN…HERE KITTY KITTY KITTY


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thesheriffsani
Comment posted November 19, 2009 @ 7:45 am

And this comment alone makes more sense than any of the birthers.


thesheriffsani
Comment posted November 19, 2009 @ 7:48 am

He may write like a third grader, he may have the grammar of a third grader, he may have the aversion to swearing like a third grader, but don't let him fool you: He really is in the third grade.


Put Food On Your Family
Comment posted November 19, 2009 @ 8:36 am

“If he released it the birther issue would deflate.”

No. It wouldn't. That's pure b.s.

Conspiracy theorists are never satisfied. It's the nature of the mental disease.

“1.7 Million spent on trolling conspiracy theorists”

Show credible evidence or STFU.


Antibirther
Comment posted November 19, 2009 @ 9:00 am

In the Keyes v. Bowen case last spring, Orly lost and Keyes had to pay Obama's legal fees. a Whopping $520.00.


Antibirther
Comment posted November 19, 2009 @ 9:46 am

No, it all make sense now. Orly is realy an Obot secret agent.


Steve_X
Comment posted November 19, 2009 @ 11:02 am

It's also much more relevant. After all, it's starting to get cold outside and unlike birfers, boots actually serve a purpose.


Jupiter8
Comment posted November 19, 2009 @ 11:41 am

Garrett is gawdawful- I am truly embarrassed that he is my rep, but we have a lot of dumb people up here in Bergen who are only preoccupied with getting tax cuts so they can buy even bigger cars to careen down the Parkway with…


ellid
Comment posted November 19, 2009 @ 12:23 pm

Sorry to tell you this, o illiterate one, but he released his birth certificate last August.

Try again.


ellid
Comment posted November 19, 2009 @ 12:26 pm

1. Name of doctor is not relevant. That's why it's not on legal birth certificates. The cute ones with the baby's height and weight and everything are more like souvenirs.

2. The President was born in Hawaii, which made him a natural born American citizen. His father's citizenship does not change this.

3. “Usurped” is a term most usually applied to the overthrow of a monarch by another claimant to the throne. It does not apply here since President Obama was legally elected and sworn in.

*smiles gently and offers anger management lessons*


ellid
Comment posted November 19, 2009 @ 12:27 pm

Ah, the outpatients are out in force today.


ellid
Comment posted November 19, 2009 @ 12:28 pm

Not only an outpatient but an anti-Semite. What a savory individual.


ellid
Comment posted November 19, 2009 @ 12:29 pm

If you are really Australian, why are you advocating the overthrow of the elected President of another country? What possible business is it of yours?


ellid
Comment posted November 19, 2009 @ 12:31 pm

Gosh. I never thought I'd see someone who was a worse writer than Orly Taitz. Live and learn!


ellid
Comment posted November 19, 2009 @ 12:31 pm

Actually, it's not his soil. It's the Aborigines' soil, which was stolen from them 200 years ago by the British – but I digress.


highnumber
Comment posted November 19, 2009 @ 1:05 pm

Not sure what you think was a smear. I was just trying to help you out. The nickname is just my way of goofing on your previous handle.


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Ron
Comment posted November 19, 2009 @ 3:29 pm

“Uneducted?:

You proved your point.


romulus
Comment posted November 19, 2009 @ 8:41 pm

cool,a fathers citizenship don't matter….so I guess osama bin ladens sons could run for the presidency, as long as they were born on U.S soil, i'll bet they are happy to know that!!!!!!!!grandsons maybe??????????????……LOL. so my mother being born in usa waters, and my father being english, means that as long as i can prove a usa residency for 14 years, i can be president too!!!!!!!…….a good thing that, because i really would like to influence your constitution with my english loyalties! I loved my dad a lot :) but, i really would like to be like obama, and be the president of the usa too………….. so, i'll just lie a bit, have all my records sealed and protected, say i am american and then run for the big office!………..thanks, you give motivation to people like me, who thought rules were made to be adhered too……..obviously, i can break the rules and get away with it, as long as the people love me………………and oh, there is sooooo much in my mind to love,plus i'm pretty hot too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

xoxoxoxox ladies :)


romulus
Comment posted November 19, 2009 @ 9:21 pm

natural born citizen, or citizen of america at the time of framing………..thats what the document basically says moron………i can't believe you call yourself american, but can't wait to shit on the very constitution you brandish about the place to all who will hear of your alleged and supposed greatness under the freedoms of your constitutional democracy…………….give me a break, and the rest of the world too,while you're at it you spineless hypocrite!
the whole reason you even have a constitution, is because you WERE subjects of fucking england…….or has that fact conviniently escaped your dismaly miniscule mind???? you morons decided to go to war with england, or have you forgotten that too?????? you could have ended up frogs….but alas, napolean was beaten back…….
what a fucking load of toss you “american voters” spew out just to “illegally validate” a poser!
If you don't give a rats ass about your constitution, then america can suffer at the hands of the world when we look at you in the near future and say “who the fuck are you to dictate or preach to us, when your whole country is a political joke right now?” we don't care about obama.obama bows to OUR heads of state……….which in itself, shows just how weak americans in general have become. we australians LAUGH at your stupid politics, and all the while, the best you can do is call us “socialists” with no guns……………hahahahahaha.
answer me this….. why WE (australia)didn't go through a recession, and you DID! luck? no? budget surpluss? hardly………… WE KNOW POLITICS………and we fucking smash you in sports on a per capita ratio! we farm better, we work harder, we are happier, and less CRIMINALS live here, because our COPS aren't as corrupt as most countries….but thats all by the by……in short, we don't think our shit don't stink, and the rest of the world respects us as fair and ballanced in all aspects of life, especially BUSINESS! sure, big businesses cry about the trade laws in australia….BUT THEY FUCKING WOULD if it didn't make them ultra bucks while squeazing the country for profits to send home now, would it? tough fucking shit you pirates, australia won't tolerate your bullshit.
but enough about my great and prosperous country…lets talk more of your shit hole of a country, shall i? i know for a fact that a dual citizen, with an english citizen father, who was born loyal to islam under islamic marriage laws, and who swore alligience to indonesia, is the president of the united states of america..the so called most powerfull man in the world, is a pile of political refuse!!!!!!! a mongrel loyal to his fathers bloodlines, and that is all……just like EVERY FUCKING MAN on this earth who HONORS THOU MOTHER AND FATHER! you think that command isn't in the islamic doctrines too??????or is christianity the only religion to have been bound by that commandment?
i seriously doubt that even a quarter of americans are intelligent enough to see the facts and draw the same conclusion, but the reality of the matter is, that you are now the laughing stock of the world……….you know what they say after all, the bigger they are, the harder they fall…………..you've fallen, and no amount of nuke force will EVER give you the upper hand in global politics again……say HELLO to the NEW WORLD ORDER……..just like Bush, Reagan, Clinton, and Carter all said there would be…………..you just didn't figure on NOT being the top do after obama signs your lives away to the global corperates, MY QUEEN factoring prominently within that group! oh, yes, didn't you know? the queen is her own “bank/banker”, and she gives special interest to good friends!

i sure hope you had the attention span to read the whole piece……….because unfortunately,i know that most americans seem to suffer from adhd, which is a learning dissorder affecting people who like to fidget around in other peoples business habitually and religiously!

ps…………….the blood of james, the brother of jesus, the son of god, was never “paid for”…………….the guilt now lies with you, for moses and arrons children have no voice, and no home………until you fix this, be it on your own hands and heads to suffer the fate that the lord god intends to serve you with. israel is not one, but twelve, twelve brothers, one king, one god…..hear him, or incurr the total cost of the spilled blood of james, brother of jesus, and rightfull king of israel.


ellid
Comment posted November 20, 2009 @ 10:38 am

No, it means that anyone born in the United States, with very limited exceptions, is a natural born citizen and thus eligible.

As for your posts, I really must ask: have you taken your lithium lately? Or are you always delirious?


ellid
Comment posted November 20, 2009 @ 10:40 am

My sincere condolences on the loss of your mind.


Birthers Lie
Comment posted November 20, 2009 @ 12:50 pm

Except that only three of the 56 frivolous lawsuits name the President.
The courts costs of one of those was $520 paid by Alan Keyes when he lost the case.

Where is your proof of the $1.7 million?

Or are you yet another spew lies and run paranoid birther lunatic coward with more spare time than common sense?


Birthers Lie
Comment posted November 20, 2009 @ 12:54 pm

1. Dr. Rodney T. West

2. Irrelevant. U.S. law trumps British law. We even fought two wars to prove it.

3. You're a hate filled bigot who forgets to take medication.

“Again, we found out that President Obama was born in Hawaii.. we were sent the documents. And what are you gonna do? I don't know why it's still around…”
- Bill O'Reilly


Where Wings Take Dream
Comment posted November 20, 2009 @ 12:58 pm

Nice Tom Lehrer reference!

From “Oedipus Rex” by Tom Lehrer:

“Or you may find yourself with a quite complex complex,
And you may end up like Oedipus.
I'd rather marry a duck-billed platypus,
Than end up like old Oedipus Rex.
The out-patients are out in force tonight, I see.”


Mary Adams
Comment posted November 20, 2009 @ 4:52 pm

Sure, Osama bin Laden's sons could run for the presidency; as long as they were born on U.S soil or their mother was an American residing here for the required period of time.

That is what the law says.

However, you are seriously missing a bunch of brain cells if you think they'd have a chance in he11 of even making it on the ballot anywhere.

See how well our system works?


romulus
Comment posted November 20, 2009 @ 6:02 pm

your system works so well, you'd never know if they WERE or WERE NOT bin ladens children…..until it was too late of course! fucking tosser…………..next!!!!!!!!!!!!!


romulus
Comment posted November 20, 2009 @ 6:19 pm

like is said, americans suffer an induced state of synchronised adhd…………………thats why bin laden is still alive and saddam hussein is dead after all. I mean, fuck, bin laden blew up your shit, not saddam……but you kill a man who had nothing to do with the crime to appease the masses in an effort to make it look like you are winning? true genius, america!!!!!!!!!!!!!! your politics just keep getting you more browny points the world over, don't they??????????suckers………….long live the Queen, you saps!!!!!! oh, and welcome back into the Commonwealth of Great Britan, faggots!!!!


Mary_Adams
Comment posted November 20, 2009 @ 8:31 pm

Wow! You are certainly a nutball.

If you think that ALL of the other candidates wouldn't have discovered who they were, you are sadly naive.

You are a paranoid idiot, plain and simple.

Go hide under your bed. Try not to piss yourself in fear…

NEXT!


thesheriffsani
Comment posted November 20, 2009 @ 10:17 pm

Shush, junior. The grownups are talking.


ellid
Comment posted November 20, 2009 @ 11:19 pm

I think you've chugged down one too many Foster's, old sport. May I suggest detox before it's too late?


racist birfer blogwhores suck.
Comment posted November 21, 2009 @ 1:33 am

Shorter LoneWacko: “I have no life, but being a racist Birfer on my blog gives me something to do.”


cynthiamckinnneyisbest
Comment posted November 22, 2009 @ 8:02 am

The question is still there. Ok, so Obama will be president for life, after they change the law. Fine. Nobody is going to stop that. He will be president as long as he lives. But the question in my mind will still be there as long as I live, no matter who prefers that I never have that question in my mind. That is something that Obama supporters cannot change. Why is his Certificate of Live Birth typed on a computer (in 1961?)..If you are as old as he is, is your Birth Cert typed on a computer? It is typed on a typewriter, isn't it? That question is there even before we ask why there are no signatures. They can keep him in office forever. Fine. But I will always have that question forever. Will it be answered. No, but you can't stop me from doubting his legitimacy. So good day to you all.


katahdin
Comment posted November 22, 2009 @ 9:11 am

It's a really simple question with really simple answer. Obama ordered a copy of his birth certificate from the State of Hawaii in 2007. Since all the records are now electronic and computers have replaced typewriters everywhere, they sent him a computer-generated copy. See how simple that is.
And by the way, Obama is not, and never will be “President for life.” He was legally elected to a term which ends on Jan. 20, 2013. If he's elected to another term, he will serve until Jan. 20, 2017. I don't know where you got this dictator nonsense, but it's simply not true.


helpra
Comment posted November 22, 2009 @ 9:49 am

u mad?


JamesD
Comment posted November 22, 2009 @ 8:08 pm

Strange how by most of the comments, people just still dont get it.

The issue is; people want to see the true and original “long form ” birth certificate. All Obama has released is a birth certificate generated in 2007 that basically states the State of Hawaii confirms they have the long form on file.

It did not disappear during any computer converstion.

I am not a birther but I find it very very odd that the man who ran on the theme of transparency and hope and change refuses to release his records from school and the long form birth certificate. Why? What is he hiding? What can be gained or lost by doing so?

If this was GW Bush, the lame stream media would be screaming about it.


katahdin
Comment posted November 22, 2009 @ 10:15 pm

Oh please. The world still doesn't know where Bush was when he was supposed to be serving in the National Guard, or what really happened with insider trading at Harken Energy. The media never screamed about those issues. They ignored them.
President Obama has shown more than sufficient evidence to prove that he was born in Hawaii as he has always said, and is therefore a natural born citizen, which is what the birthers always say they want confirmed.
And why does anyone need his college transcript? Do we need to know how he did in Psychology 101 for him to be president? After all, most presidents never released their college transcripts. I'm quite sure that Bill Clinton never did. Of course, neither Clinton nor Obama found it necessary to try to prove that they weren't idiots.


ellid
Comment posted November 23, 2009 @ 12:06 am

1. Not true of anyone except the fanatics who read WND. FAIL.

2. The birth certificate that was issued on line is valid. FAIL.

3. You are most certainly a birther, so kindly stop lying. FAIL.

4. If this was Former President Bush, or any other white politician, this matter never would have come up at all. FAIL.


ellid
Comment posted November 23, 2009 @ 12:08 am

President for life? This isn't a banana republic, despite everything Cheney and Bush did to undermine our Constitution. Are you out of your mind, or simply so blinded by hate and racism that you can't think straight?


Mary adams
Comment posted November 23, 2009 @ 5:34 pm

Strange how people like you just still don't get it.

THAT IS THE ONLY FORM THAT THE STATE OF HAWAII IS SET UP TO ISSUE.

Get it?

They would have to reconfigure their software and re-design their forms just to print ONE for President Obama… which you nutters will just call a fake.

They certainly have more important things to do than to cater to a few crazy birthers.

Oh and your addition of “records from school” proves you fall into that nutter class that will NEVER be satisfied no matter what is produced.


gchavez
Comment posted November 24, 2009 @ 7:46 pm

Obama fails to meet the definition of natural born even if he was native born in Hawaii.

OK, folks, let's forget about the birth certificate, any birth certificate. Obama isn't eligible because his father was NOT an American citizen, and he has stated so himself. That's not fiction – read his book.

The eligibility requirements for president include the fact that the candidate must be a 'natural born citizen.' The agreed upon definition of a 'natural born citizen' is a person born on U.S. soil to two (2) U.S. citizen parents.

This requirement is in the Constitution because the Founding fathers wanted to make certain there were no presidents with conflicting loyalties to other nations.

The birth certificate issue could end up being a distraction, but it may also confirm Obama's lack of eligibility, and that is why he fights the truth about his birth location and status.

For the record, most of Obama's records have been scrubbed from the Internet, and he has locked all of his personal records against release to the public. Part of the records that appear to be missing include his mother's whereabouts for a period of six months prior to his birth. Why is that? Where was she? Why isn't the information available?

If any of you know-it-all Obama supporters can show any of us where Obama's mother was during this period, please do so. The information would help answer some more questions about Obama's murky past.


katahdin
Comment posted November 24, 2009 @ 8:16 pm

I keep hearing birthers repeating that “The agreed upon definition of a 'natural born citizen' is a person born on U.S. soil to two (2) U.S. citizen parents.” This is a lie, one of many that birthers delight in repeating. According to Title 8, Section 8 of the US Code:
•Anyone born inside the United States *
•Any Indian or Eskimo born in the United States, provided being a citizen of the U.S. does not impair the person's status as a citizen of the tribe
•Any one born outside the United States, both of whose parents are citizens of the U.S., as long as one parent has lived in the U.S.
•Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year and the other parent is a U.S. national
•Any one born in a U.S. possession, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year
•Any one found in the U.S. under the age of five, whose parentage cannot be determined, as long as proof of non-citizenship is not provided by age 21
•Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years (with military and diplomatic service included in this time)
•A final, historical condition: a person born before 5/24/1934 of an alien father and a U.S. citizen mother who has lived in the U.S.
* There is an exception in the law — the person must be “subject to the jurisdiction” of the United States. This would exempt the child of a diplomat, for example, from this provision.

Anyone falling into these categories is considered natural-born, and is eligible to run for President or Vice President.
Facts, facts, facts. They are no friend to birthers.


gchavez
Comment posted November 24, 2009 @ 10:08 pm

Thank you for sharing the various definitions of what seem to mean “native
born” as opposed to “natural born”.


katahdin
Comment posted November 24, 2009 @ 11:32 pm

Native born and natural born are the same darn thing.
There are no separate tiers of citizens born in this country. Everyone born in this country is a natural born citizen. That includes President Obama, no matter that birthers can't accept his fundamental “American”-ness.
A person can acquire American citizenship in only two ways–through birth or naturalization. Once acquired it is difficult to lose. President Obama was born in the United States to an American citizen mother. On not one but two counts he is a natural born citizen of the United States of America. His father's lack of citizenship does not matter. Even though President Obama was born in Hawaii, if had been born anywhere else, he would still be a natural born becauseof his mother's citizenship (or native born because it's the same thing) citizen. He is our legitimate (and remarkably good lookin' if I may say so) president.


katahdin
Comment posted November 25, 2009 @ 12:07 am

So why are you attacking President Obama about Iraq? He didn't start that war. The previous president did. He trying to fix the mess. The jury's out on whether he'll succeed, but he's trying.


ellid
Comment posted November 25, 2009 @ 10:45 am

*sigh*

Another day, another birther.


RedGraham
Comment posted November 26, 2009 @ 4:55 pm

Then too there's the whole attending college as a Foreign Student after being adopted in Indonesia. The ONLY copy of an original Birth Certificate is in the hands of Attorney Dr. Orly Taitz. However the Obama mentions looking at his BC in that book about his father's dreams. I wonder what ever happened to that BC. Perhaps he misplaced it – on purpose.


katahdin
Comment posted November 26, 2009 @ 5:38 pm

Fake original birth certificates don't count. And there is no evidence at all that President Obama was ever adopted by his stepfather, since he already had a living father. And of course the evidence of President Obama attending college as a foreign student is similarly nonexistent.
All in all, a whole lot of nothing.


kamiaidesu
Comment posted November 27, 2009 @ 8:43 pm

Then why did Obama seal all his records and is paying attorney feels of over 1 million dollars to stop people from seeing his records?


RedGraham
Comment posted November 28, 2009 @ 1:24 am

Somebody kept a copy of that original BC because the Obama mentions looking at it in “Dreams of My (absentee)Father”. When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdoms dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.s children.”
British Nationality Act of 1948 (Part II, Section 5): Subject to the provisions of this section, a person born after the commencement of this Act shall be a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies by descent if his father is a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies at the time of the birth. Obama's own grandmother stated she was present when he was born in Kenya, three African newspapers printed he was “Kenyan-born” and the Kenyan Ambassador agreed and said “It is common knowledge in Kenya where Obama was born.” and they were attempting to make it a tourist attraction.


AndNowThis
Comment posted November 28, 2009 @ 3:49 am

It isn't just truckdrivers & people who shop @ Walmart who doubt Obama's citizenship. At least several attorneys and numerous college-educated folks too. Check this out!
BRIEFS DUE BY JANUARY 4TH, 2010
by John Charlton
(Nov. 25, 2009)— The long process of appealing the ruling of Judge Jerome B. Simandle, who dismissed the case of Kerchner et al. vs. Obama & Congress has begun. The Federal 3rd Circuit Court of Appeals in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, has set the due date for the filing of briefs of the appellants in the case: January 4th, 2010.
Commander Charles F. Kerchner, Jr., USNR Retired, issued a public statement regarding the announcement:
We look forward to moving ahead with this very important constitutional case along the legal pathway to the ultimate decision maker for this historic and precedence setting lawsuit, the U.S. Supreme Court. They will determine the answer to the pressing legal question of what is a “natural born Citizen” of the USA per Article II constitutional standards and did Obama and the U.S. Congress violate the Constitution and statutory laws and my constitutional rights during the 2008 election cycle. And, the Supreme Court will also be asked to refer their legal definition to Congress to determine if Obama meets that legal ruled definition. I say Obama does not meet the founders and framers intent for the Article II eligibility clause. I say Obama is a deceiver and a usurper.


RedGraham
Comment posted December 2, 2009 @ 2:14 am

So please tell me what birth certificate is Obama looking at on page 26 of “Dreams of my Father”? The Kenyan one?


ellid
Comment posted December 5, 2009 @ 11:25 pm

And I say you're cutting and pasting discredited talking points. FAIL.


ellid
Comment posted December 5, 2009 @ 11:27 pm

You know, it's really sad that you have nothing better to do than cut and paste the same junk every couple of days. Can't you at least produce something original each time?


ellid
Comment posted December 5, 2009 @ 11:28 pm

He didn't attend college as a foreign student and wasn't adopted by anyone. Orly Taitz is a gullible joke of an attorney.

And you, sir, are an ignoramus who enjoys it.


ellid
Comment posted December 5, 2009 @ 11:29 pm

Why don't you write a polite letter to the White House and ask?


ellid
Comment posted December 5, 2009 @ 11:30 pm

He didn't, and he isn't.

Go away, troll.


RedGraham
Comment posted December 6, 2009 @ 1:11 am

No. I'm on a mission from God to keep the birther controversy alive until the truth is revealed about this illegal-alien Obama. That is why I cut & post sinilar comments on several articles. It is to get the word out as much as possible. Even if there is little traction Obama's legitimacy may be damaged that he won't have the audacity to run for re-election. His resignation is in order now. Past due actually.


ellid
Comment posted December 6, 2009 @ 9:58 am

I also think you're Gerry Nance, and you still don't know that “usurper” doesn't mean someone who was legally elected.


ellid
Comment posted December 6, 2009 @ 10:00 am

You have my deepest sympathy on the loss of your mind to something that has as much validity as the Flat-Earth theory of cosmology.


gchavez
Comment posted December 6, 2009 @ 7:45 pm

Can someone please tell me and the world… which hospital in Hawaii will be bestowed the honor of a National Plaque or Monument marking the exact birthplace of our 44th president???


gchavez
Comment posted December 6, 2009 @ 7:46 pm

Will you please tell me and the world… which hospital in Hawaii will be bestowed the honor of a National Plaque or Monument marking the exact birthplace of our 44th president???


gchavez
Comment posted December 6, 2009 @ 7:47 pm

Will you please tell me and the world… which hospital in Hawaii will be bestowed the honor of a National Plaque or Monument marking the exact birthplace of our 44th president???


gchavez
Comment posted December 6, 2009 @ 7:48 pm

Will you please tell me and the world… which hospital in Hawaii will be bestowed the honor of a National Plaque or Monument marking the exact birthplace of our 44th president???


gchavez
Comment posted December 6, 2009 @ 7:49 pm

Will you please tell me and the world… which hospital in Hawaii will be bestowed the honor of a National Plaque or Monument marking the exact birthplace of our 44th president???


gchavez
Comment posted December 6, 2009 @ 7:50 pm

Will you please tell me and the world… which hospital in Hawaii will be bestowed the honor of a National Plaque or Monument marking the exact birthplace of our 44th president???


gchavez
Comment posted December 6, 2009 @ 7:51 pm

Will you please tell me and the world… which hospital in Hawaii will be bestowed the honor of a National Plaque or Monument marking the exact birthplace of our 44th president???


gchavez
Comment posted December 6, 2009 @ 7:52 pm

Will you please tell me and the world… which hospital in Hawaii will be bestowed the honor of a National Plaque or Monument marking the exact birthplace of our 44th president???


gchavez
Comment posted December 6, 2009 @ 7:55 pm

Will you please tell me and the world… which hospital in Hawaii will be bestowed the honor of a National Plaque or Monument marking the exact birthplace of our 44th president???


gchavez
Comment posted December 6, 2009 @ 8:15 pm

Where oh where was B.O. born? The fact that someone in the campaign told a Washington Post reporter that he was born in Kapioliani hospital and Obama’s sister said he was born at Queens hospital indicates that there was not and is not any Obama/Dunham family memory of a birth in Hawaii. Moreover, there exists no admittance record of Ann Obama/Dunham at either hospital.

Will anyone please tell me and the world… which hospital in Hawaii will be bestowed the honor of a National Plaque or Monument marking the exact birthplace of our 44th president???


katahdin
Comment posted December 7, 2009 @ 12:34 am

President Obama was born in Hawaii. He is a natural born citizen and thus eligible to be the President of the United States because he was born here. The hospitial name is immaterial, no matter what you've heard from idiot birthers on the internet.


ellid
Comment posted December 7, 2009 @ 2:46 pm

Kapiolani Hospital was and is colloquially known as Queen's Hospital because of an early connection with the last Queen of Hawaii. Since the President was born there in 1961, obviously that is where the commemorative plaque should go.

Since you have brought this topic up, I assume you are planning to donate money for the provision of same?


BirtherProud
Comment posted December 7, 2009 @ 3:12 pm

ellid…Get your facts straight, Queens Hospital and Kapiolani Medical Center are not colloquil or monotonous… They are sole and seperate medical facilities. Do a simple Google search before you mislead anyone.


BirtherProud
Comment posted December 7, 2009 @ 3:14 pm

So where oh where will the plaque go???


BirtherProud
Comment posted December 7, 2009 @ 5:31 pm

Please take the trouble to look into the “state policies and procedures” as laid down by the relevant statutes. Here are the facts…Here is a summary of Hawaii's “state policies and procedures” in 1961.

In the State of Hawaii, back in 1961, there were four different ways to get an “original birth certificate” on record. They varied greatly in their reliability as evidence. For convenience, I'll call them BC1, BC2, BC3, and BC4.

BC1. If the birth was attended by a physician or mid wife, the attending medical professional was required to certify to the Department of Health the facts of the birth date, location, parents' identities and other information. (See Section 57-8 & 9 of the Territorial Public Health Statistics Act in the 1955 Revised Laws of Hawaii which was in effect in 1961).
BC2. In 1961, if a person was born in Hawaii but not attended by a physician or midwife, then all that was required was that one of the parents send in a birth certificate to be filed. The birth certificate could be filed by mail. There appears to have been no requirement for the parent to actually physically appear before “the local registrar of the district.” It would have been very easy for a relative to forge an absent parent's signature to a form and mail it in. In addition, if a claim was made that “neither parent of the newborn child whose birth is unattended as above provided is able to prepare a birth certificate, the local registrar shall secure the necessary information from any person having knowledge of the birth and prepare and file the certificate.” (Section 57-8&9) I asked the Dept of Health what they currently ask for (in 2008) to back up a parent's claim that a child was born in Hawaii. I was told that all they required was a proof of residence in Hawaii (e.g. a driver's license [We know from interviews with her friends on Mercer Island in Washington State that Ann Dunham had acquired a driver's license by the summer of 1961 at the age of 17] or telephone bill) and pre-natal (statement or report that a woman was pregnant) and post-natal (statement or report that a new-born baby has been examined) certification by a physician. On further enquiry, the employee that I spoke to informed me that the pre-natal and post-natal certifications had probably not been in force in the '60s. Even if they had been, there is and was no requirement for a physician or midwife to witness, state or report that the baby was born in Hawaii.

BC3. In 1961, if a person was born in Hawaii but not attended by a physician or midwife, then, up to the first birthday of the child, a “Delayed Certificate” could be filed, which required that “a summary statement of the evidence submitted in support of the acceptance for delayed filing or the alteration [of a file] shall be endorsed on the certificates”, which “evidence shall be kept in a special permanent file.” The statute provided that “the probative value of a 'delayed' or 'altered' certificate shall be determined by the judicial or administrative body or official before whom the certificate is offered as evidence.” (See Section 57- 9, 18, 19 & 20 of the Territorial Public Health Statistics Act in the 1955 Revised Laws of Hawaii which was in effect in 1961).”

In other words, this form of vault birth certificate, the Delayed Certificate, required no more than a statement before a government bureaucrat by one of the parents or (the law does not seem to me clear on this) one of Barack Obama's grandparents. If the latter is true, Ann Dunham did not have to be present for this statement or even in the country.]

BC4. If a child is born in Hawaii, for whom no physician or mid wife filed a certificate of live birth, and for whom no Delayed Certificate was filed before the first birthday, then a Certificate of Hawaiian Birth could be issued upon testimony of an adult (including the subject person [i.e. the birth child as an adult]) if the Office of the Lieutenant Governor was satisfied that a person was born in Hawaii, provided that the person had attained the age of one year. (See Section 57-40 of the Territorial Public Health Statistics Act in the 1955 Revised Laws of Hawaii which was in effect in 1961.) In 1955 the “secretary of the Territory” was in charge of this procedure. In 1960 it was transferred to the Office of the Lieutenant Governor (“the lieutenant governor, or his secretary, or such other person as he may designate or appoint from his office” §338-41 [in 1961]). Truth be told.


BirtherProud
Comment posted December 7, 2009 @ 5:37 pm

Please take the trouble to look into the “state policies and procedures” as laid down by the relevant statutes. Here are the facts…Here is a summary of Hawaii's “state policies and procedures” in 1961.

In the State of Hawaii, back in 1961, there were four different ways to get an “original birth certificate” on record. They varied greatly in their reliability as evidence. For convenience, I'll call them BC1, BC2, BC3, and BC4.

BC1. If the birth was attended by a physician or mid wife, the attending medical professional was required to certify to the Department of Health the facts of the birth date, location, parents' identities and other information. (See Section 57-8 & 9 of the Territorial Public Health Statistics Act in the 1955 Revised Laws of Hawaii which was in effect in 1961).

BC2. In 1961, if a person was born in Hawaii but not attended by a physician or midwife, then all that was required was that one of the parents send in a birth certificate to be filed. The birth certificate could be filed by mail. There appears to have been no requirement for the parent to actually physically appear before “the local registrar of the district.” It would have been very easy for a relative to forge an absent parent's signature to a form and mail it in. In addition, if a claim was made that “neither parent of the newborn child whose birth is unattended as above provided is able to prepare a birth certificate, the local registrar shall secure the necessary information from any person having knowledge of the birth and prepare and file the certificate.” (Section 57-8&9) I asked the Dept of Health what they currently ask for (in 2008) to back up a parent's claim that a child was born in Hawaii. I was told that all they required was a proof of residence in Hawaii (e.g. a driver's license [We know from interviews with her friends on Mercer Island in Washington State that Ann Dunham had acquired a driver's license by the summer of 1961 at the age of 17] or telephone bill) and pre-natal (statement or report that a woman was pregnant) and post-natal (statement or report that a new-born baby has been examined) certification by a physician. On further enquiry, the employee that I spoke to informed me that the pre-natal and post-natal certifications had probably not been in force in the '60s. Even if they had been, there is and was no requirement for a physician or midwife to witness, state or report that the baby was born in Hawaii.

BC3. In 1961, if a person was born in Hawaii but not attended by a physician or midwife, then, up to the first birthday of the child, a “Delayed Certificate” could be filed, which required that “a summary statement of the evidence submitted in support of the acceptance for delayed filing or the alteration [of a file] shall be endorsed on the certificates”, which “evidence shall be kept in a special permanent file.” The statute provided that “the probative value of a 'delayed' or 'altered' certificate shall be determined by the judicial or administrative body or official before whom the certificate is offered as evidence.” (See Section 57- 9, 18, 19 & 20 of the Territorial Public Health Statistics Act in the 1955 Revised Laws of Hawaii which was in effect in 1961).”

In other words, this form of vault birth certificate, the Delayed Certificate, required no more than a statement before a government bureaucrat by one of the parents or (the law does not seem to me clear on this) one of Barack Obama's grandparents. If the latter is true, Ann Dunham did not have to be present for this statement or even in the country.]

BC4. If a child is born in Hawaii, for whom no physician or mid wife filed a certificate of live birth, and for whom no Delayed Certificate was filed before the first birthday, then a Certificate of Hawaiian Birth could be issued upon testimony of an adult (including the subject person [i.e. the birth child as an adult]) if the Office of the Lieutenant Governor was satisfied that a person was born in Hawaii, provided that the person had attained the age of one year. (See Section 57-40 of the Territorial Public Health Statistics Act in the 1955 Revised Laws of Hawaii which was in effect in 1961.) In 1955 the “secretary of the Territory” was in charge of this procedure. In 1960 it was transferred to the Office of the Lieutenant Governor (“the lieutenant governor, or his secretary, or such other person as he may designate or appoint from his office” §338-41 [in 1961]). Truth be told.


katahdin
Comment posted December 7, 2009 @ 11:35 pm

Maybe up your ass? It would provide a surface for your brain to rest upon.


katahdin
Comment posted December 7, 2009 @ 11:38 pm

Posting the same nonsense over and over again doesn't make you one bit less stupid.


gchavez
Comment posted December 8, 2009 @ 12:29 am

Its too bad that you feel the need to resort to inappropriate childish language. Whats the matter? Do the facts confuse you? Don't you have the intellect to be civil? Its people like you that give Dems and Liberals a bad name. Shame on you.


gchavez
Comment posted December 8, 2009 @ 12:32 am

Its too bad that you feel the need to resort to inappropriate childish language. Whats the matter? Do the facts confuse you? Don't you have the intellect to be civil? Its people like you that give Dems and Liberals a bad name. Shame on you.


gchavez
Comment posted December 8, 2009 @ 12:39 am

I too am a proud Birther…a seeker of truth, justice and the American way.


gchavez
Comment posted December 8, 2009 @ 12:43 am

From one proud birther to another… Thank you for setting the record straight. Two seperate hospitals and no proof of a Obama/Dunham birth. How can that be???


gchavez
Comment posted December 8, 2009 @ 1:10 am

Get your facts straight…If the birth was attended by a physician or mid wife, the attending medical professional was required to certify to the Department of Health the facts of the birth date, location, parents' identities and other information. (See Section 57-8 & 9 of the Territorial Public Health Statistics Act in the 1955 Revised Laws of Hawaii which was in effect in 1961). This is known as a Certificate of Live Birth… not a “Certification OLB” like the one posted by Barry Soetoro aka Obama.


gchavez
Comment posted December 8, 2009 @ 1:15 am

Why did Barry Soetoro change his name to Barack Hussein Obama???


gchavez
Comment posted December 8, 2009 @ 1:30 am

The “An American Expat in Southeast Asia” reports that Obama's Indonesian schooling began when he was entered into the Roman Catholic, Franciscus Assisi Primary School on January 1, 1968 and sat in class 1B. He was registered under the name Barry Soetoro, serial number 203. School documents listed Barry Soetoro as an Indonesian citizen and his religion was listed as Islam. He will spend three years at Franciscus.

Catholic schools accept non-Catholics worldwide. Non-Catholic students are typically excused from religious instruction and ceremony.

1971
Obama's family moves from H Ramir Street to Dempo Street and Obama enters the 4th grade at the Besuki Primary School, a government school. He was enrolled as Barry Soetoro, Muslim.

1971
All Indonesian students are required to study religion at school and a young Barry Soetoro, being a Muslim, would have been required to study Islam daily in school.

He would have been taught to read and write Arabic, to recite his prayers properly, to read and recite from the Quran and to study the laws of Islam.

In his autobiography, “Dreams From My Father,” Obama mentions studying the Quran and describes the public school as “a Muslim school.”

According to Tine Hahiyary, one of Obama's teachers and the principal from 1971 through 1989, Barry actively took part in the Islamic religious lessons during his time at the school. His teacher was named Maimunah and she lived in the Puncak area, the Cianjur Regency. “I remembered that he had studied “mengaji” (recitation of the Quran)” Tine said.

Obama himself recalls, “In the Muslim school, the teacher wrote to tell mother I made faces during Koranic studies.”

Our guy in Jakarta writes: “The actual usage of the word 'mengaji' in Indonesian and Malaysian societies means the study of learning to recite the Quran in the Arabic language rather than the native tongue. “Mengagi” is a word and a term that is accorded the highest value and status in the mindset of fundamentalist societies here in Southeast Asia. To put it quite simply, 'mengaji classes' are not something that a non practicing or so-called moderate Muslim family would ever send their child to. To put this in a Christian context, this is something above and beyond simply enrolling your child in Sunday school classes.”

“The fact that Obama had attended mengaji classes is well known in Indonesia and has left many there wondering just when Obama is going to come out of the closet.”

“As I've stated before, the evidence seems to quite clearly show that both Ann Dunham and her husband Lolo Soetoro Mangunharjo were in fact devout Muslims themselves and they raised their son as such.”

Purba on Barry Soetoro aka Barack Obama's Indonesian connection.

Former Menteng student now US President

Obama Barack has been democratically elected President of the US.

Quite an about face for the best democracy money can buy, in view of the Bush presidential se-lection.

But of course, corruption, collusion and nepotism is the sole monopoly of the Third World – or so the deluded denizens of the West repeat to themselves as they hug their knees, rocking back and forth – reminding themselves of how they uphold human rights equally across the board, entirely devoid of double-standards and totally oblivious to race, creed or religion.

Barrak Hussein Obama II was born to a white American Ann Dunham and Kenyan Barrak Hussein Obama Snr, in Nyang'oma Kogelo now in Kenya.

Here the Indonesian link starts.

Ann Dunham married in 1967 Lolo Soetoro, a Javanese, whose own father, in 1946 was killed along with his eldest brother were killed, after which the Dutch army burned down the family's home. Soetoro fled with his mother into the countryside to survive. Incidentally yet more proof of Dutch War Crimes – delibrate destruction of civilian property outside the scope of battle.

Pak Lolo Soetoro was an army geologist then later a government relations consultant for Mobil Oil. Obama describes Soetoro as well-mannered, even-tempered, and easy with people.

Barry Soetoro in Indonesia with mother Ann Dunham, step-father Lolo Soetoro, baby-sister Maya Soetoro-Ng.

From age 6 to 10, Obama lived in Jakarta. Age six, Obama attended the Catholic Primary St Francis di Assisi. Much was made of the lie he was educated in a Madrassa – or more accurately a pesantren – this of course was totally untrue. Obama Jnr later attended Model Primary School, Menteng and was registered as a Muslim – as his father was Muslim.

In Obama's own words:

In the Muslim school, the teacher wrote to tell my mother that I made faces during Koranic studies. My mother wasn’t overly concerned. ‘Be respectful,’ she’d say. In the Catholic school, when it came time to pray, I would close my eyes, then peek around the room. Nothing happened. No angels descended. Just a parched old nun and 30 brown children, muttering words.

One of “Berry's” childhood friends was Adi who often visited “Berry's” 16 Jalan Haji Ramli house. Speaking volumes of Dutch “development” at the time the road was of this established middle-class neighbourhood was a dirt lane where Obama used to wile away the hours kicking a soccer ball.

Adi recalled Obama and his friends wore plastic bags over their shoes to walk through the muddy street during the rainy seasons.

Neighborhood Muslims worshiped in a nearby house, which has since been replaced by a larger mosque. Sometimes, when the muezzin sounded the call to prayer, Lolo and Barry would walk to the makeshift mosque together, Adi said.

His mother often went to the church, but Barry was Muslim. He went to the mosque,” Adi said. “I remember him wearing a sarong.”

Obama spent most his spare time hanging out with Adi and other friends at the home of Yunaldi Askiar, a classmate. They used to play a kind of fencing game using sticks, kick a ball up and down the narrow dirt lanes or go swimming in the river behind the school, said Askiar, 42, a car mechanic.

Obama was taller and better dressed than most kids in classes where shoes and socks were still luxuries, so he stood out from the start. As an African American, and the only foreigner, he suffered racial taunts and teasing but never turned to violence.

“At first, everybody felt it was weird to have him here,” Israella Dharmawan, his first grade teacher said. “But also they were curious about him, so wherever he went, the kids were following him.”

His friends enjoyed playing tricks on Berry: Harmon ASki recalled,

“Sometimes we'd say, 'Barry, do you want a chocolate?’ And we'd give him a chocolate. The next day we'd give him a chocolate again. The third time we'd give him terasi (fermented shrimp paste) wrapped up like chocolate. Obama didn't get mad. He would laugh it off.”

Ann Soetoro moved to Yogyakarta, while Obama Jnr studied in Jakarta. She was inspired by Jogja village industries, which became the basis of her 1992 doctoral dissertation.

“She loved living in Java,” said Dr. Dewey, who recalled accompanying Ms. Soetoro to a metalworking village. “People said: ‘Hi! How are you?’ She said: ‘How’s your wife? Did your daughter have the baby?’ They were friends. Then she’d whip out her notebook and she’d say: ‘How many of you have electricity? Are you having trouble getting iron?’ ”

Dunham-Soetoro became a consultant for the United States Agency for International Development on setting up a village credit program, then a Ford Foundation program officer in Jakarta specializing in women’s work. Later, she was a consultant in Pakistan, then joined Indonesia’s oldest bank to work on what is described as the world’s largest sustainable microfinance program, creating services like credit and savings for the poor.

Obama in Hawaii with Maya and Ann and maternal grand-father, shortly after leaving Indonesia.

In his tellingly-titled Memoir, Dreams from My Father, Obama describes his Indonesian interlude as “one long adventure, the bounty of a young boy's life”. But he also recalls being troubled by the poverty around him: “the empty look on the faces of farmers the year the rains never came,” and the desperation of the disabled beggars who came to the family's door.

“The world was violent, I was learning, unpredictable and often cruel,” he writes. Obama and his mother thus we were very well acquainted with the harsh realities of indigenous Indonesians.

Fermina Katarina Sinaga, recalled yojhng Obama in her class: in the common task of class to write an essay titled “My dream: What I want to be in the future.” Obama “wrote ‘I want to be a president,’ ” she said. During a later writing assignment on family, he wrote, “My father is my idol.

The Indonesian connection for Obama and all that shaped him proving once again all things Javanese and indigenous Indonesian the bedrock for the towering monuments built on the foundations of a great civilisation.
Source(s):
Yahoo answers 2 yrs ago, http://www.indonesiamatters.com/2952/barry-soet…


gchavez
Comment posted December 8, 2009 @ 1:35 am

What is the definition of a charlaton, fraud, trickster, deceiver??? Could this possibly describe B.O.???


katahdin
Comment posted December 8, 2009 @ 9:27 pm

I am absolutely clear on the fact that our President, Barack Obama is a natural born citizen of the United States.
I do admit that it becomes difficult after awhile to remain civil to people whose prejudice and obtuseness are so great that they are incapable of seeing the facts that are right in front of them: Born in the USA equals natural born citizen of the USA. It's that simple. Living in another country in no way strips any American of their citizen, and all these long, tedious stories about Barack Obama's childhood, that I suppose are meant to fill the reader with fear and loathing of the scary black man with the scary foreign name, do nothing of the sort. I think it's good to have a president who has experience and knowledge of the wider world.
You know this birther “debate” reminds me of pretend debate between creationism and evolution. On the creationism side there's the Bible; on the evolution side there's a mountain of scientific evidence and several complete branches of science. No contest. Evolution is fact, and Barack Hussein Obama is a natural born American citizen.
It becomes more and more obvious that birtherism is simply a cover for fear of difference, just as creationism is a cover for fear of reality.


gchavez
Comment posted December 8, 2009 @ 10:02 pm

There you again…why must you play the race card. Its not about race, its about the truth.

Why did B.O. execute his first act as President, literally within 5 minutes of taking office, he signed executive order #13489 that sealed his own records, Please answer this, after all was'nt he to be transparent?

With respect to your claim of the mountain of scientific evidence…is that the same mountain that once supported global warming??? LOL :)


gchavez
Comment posted December 8, 2009 @ 10:33 pm

What is “Natural Born”?? – Under the laws of nature, every child born requires no act of law to establish the fact the child inherits through nature his/her father’s citizenship as well as his name (or even his property) through birth. This law of nature is also recognized by law of nations. Sen. Howard said the citizenship clause under the Fourteenth Amendment was by virtue of “natural law and national law.”

The advantages of Natural Law is competing allegiances between nations are avoided, or at least with those nations whose custom is to not make citizens of other countries citizens without their consent. Any alternations or conflicts due to a child’s natural citizenship are strictly a creature of local municipal law. In the year 1866, the United States for the first time adopted a local municipal law under Sec. 1992 of U.S. Revised Statutes that read: “All persons born in the United States and not subject to any foreign power, excluding Indians not taxed, are declared to be citizens of the United States.”

Rep. John A. Bingham commenting on Section 1992 said it means “every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen.” (Cong. Globe, 39th, 1st Sess., 1291 (1866))


gchavez
Comment posted December 8, 2009 @ 10:35 pm

What is “Natural Born”?? – Under the laws of nature, every child born requires no act of law to establish the fact the child inherits through nature his/her father’s citizenship as well as his name (or even his property) through birth. This law of nature is also recognized by law of nations. Sen. Howard said the citizenship clause under the Fourteenth Amendment was by virtue of “natural law and national law.”

The advantages of Natural Law is competing allegiances between nations are avoided, or at least with those nations whose custom is to not make citizens of other countries citizens without their consent. Any alternations or conflicts due to a child’s natural citizenship are strictly a creature of local municipal law. In the year 1866, the United States for the first time adopted a local municipal law under Sec. 1992 of U.S. Revised Statutes that read: “All persons born in the United States and not subject to any foreign power, excluding Indians not taxed, are declared to be citizens of the United States.”

Rep. John A. Bingham commenting on Section 1992 said it means “every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen.” (Cong. Globe, 39th, 1st Sess., 1291 (1866))


gchavez
Comment posted December 8, 2009 @ 10:56 pm

Why did B.O. execute his first act as President, literally within 5 minutes of taking office, he signed executive order #13489 that sealed his own records, including college. Please answer this, after all was'nt he to be transparent?


BillyBob
Comment posted December 9, 2009 @ 2:16 am

Obama might have actually been born in Hawaii just not as a natural-born U.S. citizen. His mother was underage and unable to confer NBC status because she was married to a foreigner. His father was a Brit and hence any offspring of a Brit in 1961 was also a Brit. This explains exactly why no Hawaiian BC has ever been released. The college records probably reflect Obama as an Indonesian or Kenyan and that is why those records are sealed. The only BC that has ever surfaced is from Kenya where his grandmother claimed Obama was born. Any way you look at it the man has never been even once for half-a-second a natural-born U.S. citizen and is therefore illegally holding office. Obama is an illegal-alien.


gchavez
Comment posted December 9, 2009 @ 1:04 pm

Is that why B.O. executed his first act as President, literally within 5 minutes of taking office, he signed executive order #13489 that sealed his own records, so much for being transparent.


republicanstupidity
Comment posted December 9, 2009 @ 3:24 pm

GOT PROOF OF THAT OR SOMETHING ELSE YOU PULLED OUT OF YOU FAGGOT ASS?


republicanstupidity
Comment posted December 9, 2009 @ 3:26 pm

HOW ABOUT BIRTHER STUPID! HAHAHAHA RETARDS UNITE!!!!


republicanstupidity
Comment posted December 9, 2009 @ 3:27 pm

SO YOU TALK TO GOD??WAIT………….HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA OHHHHHHH WHAT A MORON AHAHAHAHAHAA


gchavez
Comment posted December 9, 2009 @ 4:27 pm

Proof? Sure, the truth is available to those who seek it…

Presidential Records

Signed: January 21, 2009
Federal Register page and date: 74 FR 4669, January 26, 2009

http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/execut…

Read it for yourself…here's the link to the pdf.

http://edocket.access.gpo.gov/2009/pdf/E9-1712.pdf

Is that proof enough? Or would you like me to pull out some more… You big idiot.


gchavez
Comment posted December 9, 2009 @ 4:35 pm

Your immature conduct sure speaks volumes about Dem and Liberals…Open your eyes, don't be fooled.


gchavez
Comment posted December 9, 2009 @ 4:41 pm

Wow…you sure love to show off your stupidity…LOL


republicanstupidity
Comment posted December 9, 2009 @ 5:49 pm

HEY DUMBFUCK THATS TALKING ABOUT DOCUMENTS THAT ARE IN THE WHITE HOUSE NOT HIS BIRTH CERTIFICATE HAHAHAHAHAHAHA DAMN YOU ARE FUCKING STUPID!!!!!


republicanstupidity
Comment posted December 9, 2009 @ 5:50 pm

DID HE?? ALL WE HEAR IS YOUR ASS FLAPPING IN THE BREEZE


republicanstupidity
Comment posted December 9, 2009 @ 5:50 pm

AHAHAHAHA PROUD IDIT REDNECK ASSHOLE PIECE OF SHIT COME ON ASSHOLE WHERE IS YOUR GED????


republicanstupidity
Comment posted December 9, 2009 @ 5:51 pm

THATS JUST YOUR MAMMY MAKING SLURPPING SOUNDS WITH HER TEETH OUT HAHAHAH GED'ERS YOU GOTTA LAUGH AHAHAHA


republicanstupidity
Comment posted December 9, 2009 @ 5:58 pm

COME ON RED YOU HAVE TO DO BETTER THAT THAT YOUR STUPIDITY IS LAUGHABLE DAMN IDIOT

Newsweek:

Barry Obama decided that he didn't like his nickname. A few of his friends at Occidental College had already begun to call him Barack (his formal name), and he'd come to prefer that. The way his half sister, Maya, remembers it, Obama returned home at Christmas in 1980, and there he told his mother and grandparents: no more Barry. Obama recalls it slightly differently, but in the same basic time frame. He believes he told his mom he wanted to be called Barack when she visited him in New York the following summer. By both accounts, it seemed that the elder relatives were reluctant to embrace the change. Maya recalls that Obama's maternal grandparents, who had played a big role in raising him, continued long after that to call him by an affectionate nickname, “Bar.” “Not just them, but my mom, too,” says Obama.

Why did Obama make the conscious decision to take on his formal African name? His father was also Barack, and also Barry: he chose the nickname when he came to America from Kenya on a scholarship in 1959. His was a typical immigrant transition. Just as a Dutch woman named Hanneke might become Johanna, or a German named Matthias becomes Matt, the elder Barack wanted to fit in. America was a melting pot, and it was expected then that you melt–or at least smooth some of your more foreign edges


gchavez
Comment posted December 9, 2009 @ 6:00 pm

There you go again…showing off your own stupidity. What a wonderful advocate you are for B.O.


republicanstupidity
Comment posted December 9, 2009 @ 6:00 pm

YOU SILLY ASS MAMMY WHEN SHE WORKING ON THE CONER FOR A BUCK AND THE B*TCH IS WORTH A QUARTER


gchavez
Comment posted December 9, 2009 @ 6:06 pm

Your immature conduct sure speaks volumes about Dems and Liberals…Open your eyes, don't be fooled.
I feel sorry for you, showing off your own stupidity. What a wonderful advocate you are for B.O.


gchavez
Comment posted December 9, 2009 @ 6:07 pm

Your immature conduct sure speaks volumes about Dems and Liberals…Open your eyes, don't be fooled.
I feel sorry for you, showing off your own stupidity. What a wonderful advocate you are for B.O.


gchavez
Comment posted December 9, 2009 @ 6:08 pm

Your immature conduct sure speaks volumes about Dems and Liberals…Open your eyes, don't be fooled.
I feel sorry for you, showing off your own stupidity. What a wonderful advocate you are for B.O.


gchavez
Comment posted December 9, 2009 @ 6:10 pm

Your immature conduct sure speaks volumes about Dems and Liberals…Open your eyes, don't be fooled.
I feel sorry for you, showing off your own stupidity. What a wonderful advocate you are for B.O.

You just can't handle the truth…


gchavez
Comment posted December 9, 2009 @ 6:16 pm

Newsweek along with many other media outlets appear to be party to the fraud that has been perpetrated on this graet nation.


borderraven
Comment posted December 10, 2009 @ 2:09 am

Why did Barry Soetoro change his name to Barack Hussein Obama???

So he could get in the White House.


republicanstupidity
Comment posted December 10, 2009 @ 8:07 am

YOU ARE SHOWING YOURS TRYING TO TWIST SOMETHNG THATS NOT TRUE. THE PRESIDENT IS A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN YOU ARE A OUTHOUSE REDNECK….YOU BELIEVE YOU SAY IT ENOUGH IT WILL BE TRUE… I SAY THAT YOU ARE A FUCKING IDIOT POS YOU GROW THE FUCK UP MORON


republicanstupidity
Comment posted December 10, 2009 @ 9:47 am

AND YOUR STUPIDITY SHOW THAT YOU ARE NOTHING BUT A CHICKENSHIT REDNECK ASSHOLE WHO HIDS IN HIS SISTER MOMS BASEMENT AND LIES ON AOL HOPING THAT HIS FATS ASS MAKES A DIFFERENCE…TELL ME SOMETHING ASSHOLE WHAT HAS SO CALL CONSERVITIVES EVER DONE FOR THIS COUNTRY???


gchavez
Comment posted December 10, 2009 @ 1:42 pm

Allow me to educate you…conservatives founded this great nation and authored the constitution, thereby, assuring you the right to express yourself and expose your ignorance and stupidity.

I feel sorry for you, showing off your own stupidity. What a wonderful advocate you are for B.O. and Dems. LOL


republicanstupidity
Comment posted December 10, 2009 @ 2:17 pm

WHAT A WONDEFUL ADVOCATE YOU ARE FOR ABORTION….WHY WOULD ANYONE WANT TO RASIE A DUMBFUCK LIKE YOU BET YOUR MAMA/SISTER IS PROUD HUH GOMER??


republicanstupidity
Comment posted December 10, 2009 @ 2:18 pm

OH GROW THE FUCK UP ASSHOLE YOU CAN SPIT THIS SHIT ANDS CAN'T TAKE IT!! HERE KITTY KITTY KITTY


republicanstupidity
Comment posted December 10, 2009 @ 5:02 pm

REALLY??? SO THOSE FOLKS THAT UP AND LEFT ENGLAND WERE CALLED CONSERVITIVES HUH? HAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!! YOU DO NOT HAVE MUCH OF A EDUCATION DO YOU??? COME ON ASSHOLE SHOW US ALL HOW SMART ONE PERSON CAN BE WITHOUT A EDUCATION HAHAHAHA YOU ARE A FUCKING BLAST I LOVE RETARDS!!!!!!


gchavez
Comment posted December 10, 2009 @ 5:45 pm

Hey STUPIDITY…Thank you for showing the world how foolish and ignorant you are. You are an embarrassment to so many good Dems and Liberals. I

Its too bad you make them and B.O. look so pathetic. Keep it coming, you're more entertaining then a good joke.


republicanstupidity
Comment posted December 10, 2009 @ 6:17 pm

LOOK SON I HAVE FACTS ON MY SIDE YOU HAVE LIES IN YOUR OWN LITTLE WORLD I COULD GIVE A SHIT LESS WHAT THE RETARD CROWD LIKE YOURSELF SAY.. I AM QUITE COMFORTABLE ON MY POSITION YOU ON THE OTHER HAND HAVE NOTHING BUT YOUR STUPIDTY TO SHOW!! SOME ON DIP SHIT ENTERTAIN US SOME MORE……COME ONE PLEASE SHOW US ALL HOW YOU REALLY FEEL HHAHAHAH BET YOU CALL YOUR MAMA SISTER TOO HUH???


Keyes4Prez
Comment posted December 12, 2009 @ 3:58 am

The AP reporter stated the following:
Kenyan-born US Senate hopeful, Barrack Obama, appeared set to take over the Illinois Senate seat after his main rival, Jack Ryan, dropped out of the race on Friday night amid a furor over lurid sex club allegations.
This report explains the context of the oft cited debate, between Obama and Keyes in the following Fall, in which Keyes faulted Obama for not being a “natural born citizen”, and in which Obama, by his quick retort, “So what? I am running for Illinois Senator, not the presidency”, self-admitted that he was not eligible for the office. Seeing that an AP reporter is too professional to submit a story which was not based on confirmed sources (ostensibly the Obama campaign in this case), the inference seems inescapable: Obama himself was putting out in 2004, that he was born in Kenya.


BirtherProud
Comment posted December 12, 2009 @ 7:30 pm

I was born in Manila, Philippines on 03-18-1957. I was issued a Certification of Live Birth by the State of Hawaii. In order to enroll me in school, in September of 1962, my grandmother applied for my COLB by signed sworn affidavit under penalty of perjury. This was necessary as a form of identification, due to my grandmother having guardianship of me and she was unable to produce my original Philippine birth certificate.

However, the COLB issued to my grandmother under my name did not afford me U.S. Citizenship. Later as an adult I applied for U.S. Citizenship and was required to produce a Philippine issued birth certificate. I am now a proud Naturalized U.S. Citizen. I love this country…God Bless America


BirtherProud
Comment posted December 12, 2009 @ 7:43 pm

I voted for B.O. and now I regret it. Why does he allow his supporters to be left with very little. When all he has to do is authorize Hawaii DoH to release his long form Vault Birth Certificate. Perhaps it does not exist.


BirtherProud
Comment posted December 12, 2009 @ 7:43 pm

I voted for B.O. and now I regret it. Why does he allow his supporters to be left with very little. When all he has to do is authorize Hawaii DoH to release his long form Vault Birth Certificate. Perhaps it does not exist.


ellid
Comment posted December 12, 2009 @ 11:22 pm

FIFTH repeat of the same irrelevant post by a sockpuppet. Whee!


ellid
Comment posted December 12, 2009 @ 11:22 pm

FOURTH repeat of an irrelevant post by a sockpuppet.


ellid
Comment posted December 12, 2009 @ 11:23 pm

FIFTH repeat of an irrelevant post by a sockpuppet.


ellid
Comment posted December 12, 2009 @ 11:24 pm

Why does Gerry Nancy call himself Borderraven?

To keep the Navy from finding out that he's posting treasonous suggestions and yanking his pension and Champus.


ellid
Comment posted December 12, 2009 @ 11:26 pm

He didn't. Wrong again.


ellid
Comment posted December 12, 2009 @ 11:26 pm

He didn't. Wrong again.


ellid
Comment posted December 12, 2009 @ 11:27 pm

You mean you're from Krypton?


ellid
Comment posted December 12, 2009 @ 11:28 pm

Asked, answered, and rebutted elsewhere.


ellid
Comment posted December 12, 2009 @ 11:29 pm

The idea that anyone, anywhere, at any time, could refer to Sam and John Adams, Tom Paine, Thomas Jefferson, Ben Franklin, or any of the other Founders as “conservative” shows just how poor history education has become in this country.


Anonymous
Comment posted December 13, 2009 @ 4:31 am

Asked and answered.


ellid
Comment posted December 12, 2009 @ 11:31 pm

It's called HIPAA, and legally prevents any hospital from releasing medical records.

As for you and BP/NC, I hope you have a wonderful life together dropping the soap in the shower and commenting favorably on each other's ridiculous posts.


Anonymous
Comment posted December 13, 2009 @ 4:32 am

Asked and answered. Now, please produce proof that you aren’t Gerry Nance.


Anonymous
Comment posted December 13, 2009 @ 4:33 am

Um, wrong again. The Executive Order in question unsealed records that the Bush administration had sealed. It also pertains only to official government records, not birth certificates.

FAIL.


Anonymous
Comment posted December 13, 2009 @ 4:36 am

Asked and answered. Give it up, Gerry or what the fuck your name is.


gchavez
Comment posted December 13, 2009 @ 8:47 pm

Watch Barry's body language when answering boy asking him where he's born.

Looking down and left is a sure sign of deception.

http://www.breitbart.tv/obama-answers-curious-s…


Anonymous
Comment posted December 14, 2009 @ 4:23 am

John McCain was born in Panama…he is not Native Born. However, by virtue of his Natural Father, he is a “Natural Born” U.S. Citizen.


ellid
Comment posted December 14, 2009 @ 12:03 am

According to whom?

Also, why have you posted this repeatedly in different threads?


republicanstupidity
Comment posted December 14, 2009 @ 8:50 am

YES SURE YOU DID!!!!!


Make The Pie Higher
Comment posted December 14, 2009 @ 4:45 pm

“Unlike in ‘Alice in Wonderland,’ simply saying something is so does not make it so.”

- U.S. District Court Judge Clay Land

Your OCD spamming and trolling is a good example.


Make The Pie Higher
Comment posted December 14, 2009 @ 4:45 pm

Liar.

Paul Colford, director of media relations for the Associated Press: “The AP has never reported that President Obama was born in Kenya. In fact, AP news stories about the state of Hawaii have confirmed that he was born there. The Kenyan paper that you cite rewrote a 2004 AP story, adding the phrase ‘Kenyan-born.’ That wording was not in the AP version of the story.”


Make The Pie Higher
Comment posted December 14, 2009 @ 4:47 pm

Liar. Your spin, like you, is utter bullshit.

On January 21, in one of his first official acts, President Barack Obama revoked the Bush administration’s Executive Order 13233 that severely limited access by the public to presidential records.
President Obama firmly committed his administration to a new policy of transparency by symbolically issuing the executive order on his first full day in office. The issuance of the Obama presidential records executive order ends a nearly eight year effort by historians, archivists, political scientists and other stakeholders in federal courts and on Capitol Hill to have the Bush EO revoked on legal grounds or by statute.
The language in the Obama executive order is similar to Executive Order 12667 issued by President Reagan in 1989 which was also in effect during the presidencies of George H.W. Bush and Bill Clinton. The Reagan executive order was revoked when President Bush issued EO 13233 in November 2001.
The Obama executive order restores the presumption that the incumbent president, not former presidents, their heirs or designees should be the one asserting claims of executive privilege. The executive order states that only “living” former Presidents can make claims of executive privilege. This removed one of the most egregious sections of the Bush EO that allowed heirs or designees to make claims of executive privilege for an indefinite period after the death of a former President.
In addition, the provisions in the Bush EO allowing former vice presidents to assert executive privilege are gone. In fact, the Obama EO makes it clear that vice presidential records are to be included under the definition of “presidential records.”
Executive Order 13489 also restores the function of the Archivist of the United States’ as an independent arbiter of initial claims of executive privilege. The executive order assumes the Archivist may release records 30 days after notifying the incumbent and former Presidents unless a claim of executive privilege is made.

http://historycoalition.org/2009/01/21/presiden…


Make The Pie Higher
Comment posted December 14, 2009 @ 4:48 pm

No. The poster is correct. You are that fucking stupid.


Make The Pie Higher
Comment posted December 14, 2009 @ 4:49 pm

Prove it or STFU, assmunch.


Make The Pie Higher
Comment posted December 14, 2009 @ 4:50 pm

More paranoid blather from an idiot with more spare time than common sense. GFY.


katahdin
Comment posted December 14, 2009 @ 9:19 pm

It's his birth name. You can read it right on his birth certificate from the state of Hawaii. So it's always been his name.


katahdin
Comment posted December 14, 2009 @ 9:22 pm

If President Obama was going to change his name to make himself more electable, why not be Barry Smith? The mere inclusion of 'Hussein' in his name is enough cause an incurable case of the vapors among the ignorami.


katahdin
Comment posted December 14, 2009 @ 9:29 pm

What exactly is suspicious here? That Barack Obama outgrew his childhood nickname? When my father was a child, his nickname was Skippy. Around the time that he was 18, he stopped answering to it. Now only my aunt ever calls him that, and then only occasionally.
Really, birthers can make any insignificant thing into a dark conspiracy.


Anonymous
Comment posted December 15, 2009 @ 4:35 am

Asked and answered.


Anonymous
Comment posted December 15, 2009 @ 4:36 am

Asked and answered.


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Anonymous
Comment posted January 16, 2010 @ 9:16 pm

Get YOUR facts straight…nothing you mentioned has even the slightest bit of impact as to where Obama was born. The fact that his birth in Hawaii may or may not have been attended by a physician has nothing to do with Obama’s legal status as natural-born citizen.

Furthermore, if you’re insisting that Hawaii was somehow complicit in this 48-year cover-up, what evidence do you have? Feel free to go on eBay and buy as much of it as you need, since that’s where birfers get all of their other evidence from.

The fact that you birfers are irrational, hate-filled, knuckle dragging bigots who would be too stupid to recognize the Constitution if it pissed in your tinfoil hats doesn’t mean that you get to make up your own reality as you go along.


Anthony
Comment posted February 16, 2010 @ 12:53 pm

I looked for Barry and didn't see no one named Barry in the video. However, I saw president Obama taking questions from carious school children. Nothing really special.


Anthony
Comment posted February 16, 2010 @ 5:53 pm

I looked for Barry and didn't see no one named Barry in the video. However, I saw president Obama taking questions from carious school children. Nothing really special.


Info
Comment posted August 2, 2010 @ 9:02 pm

The “birthers” here prove that political conservatism isn't a philosophy, it's a mental illness.


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