Special Operations Chiefs Quietly Sway Afghanistan Policy

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Monday, November 09, 2009 at 7:22 pm
Vice Admirals William McRaven and Robert Harward (navy.mil)

Vice Admirals William McRaven and Robert Harward (navy.mil)

Two senior military officers from the shadowy world of Special Operations are playing a large and previously unreported role in shaping the Obama administration’s Afghanistan and Pakistan strategy, a move that underscores that the internal debate has moved past a rigid choice between expansive missions to provide security for Afghan civilians and narrowly tailored missions to find and kill terrorists.

[Security1]Navy Vice Adm. William H. McRaven, the commander of the Joint Special Operations Command  (JSOC) at Ft. Bragg, N.C., and Vice Adm. Robert S. Harward, the deputy leader of the Joint Forces Command in Norfolk, Va., are attending and informing the strategy meetings that the White House began in September to refine its approach in Afghanistan. Both men have deep ties to Army Gen. Stanley McChrystal, the commander of U.S. and NATO forces in the war. They are said to favor large infusions of U.S. troops to Afghanistan for performing counterinsurgency operations in select population centers, but they also advocate marshalling forces to pursue terrorists across Afghanistan’s rugged, mountainous terrain — a task in which McRaven plays a key role.

Debate about a “purely counterterrorism strategy” advocated by Vice President Joseph Biden was “bounced around at one point, but that has been cast aside,” said a National Security Council staffer who attends the meetings and who asked for anonymity because the debate is still ongoing, “mostly because JSOC has said ‘We’re going to do this anyway.’ And it’s not like they’re going to be in a supporting role.” Biden’s advice, which had practically no support from the armed services, was that the military should shy away from protecting the Afghan people and helping build Afghan governing institutions, and instead focus on the JSOC specialties of going after terrorists directly.

Yet the fact that JSOC veterans like McRaven, Harward and McChrystal favor an overall counterinsurgency strategy with a counterterrorism component demonstrates that the military no longer believes distinguishing between the two is tenable in the Afghanistan war. “Special Operations Forces that were traditionally used for counterterrorism better understand how their capabilities fit into a counterinsurgency campaign than perhaps they did when the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan began,” said Andrew Exum, a veteran of both wars and a fellow at the Center for a New American Security who over the summer advised McChrystal in a review of Afghanistan strategy.

More directly, McRaven and Harward share a professional fraternity with McChrystal. Before McRaven took over JSOC — an entity that operates almost entirely in secret — McChrystal ran it for five years, supervising stealthy teams in Afghanistan and Iraq that tracked down and killed senior terrorists like al-Qaeda in Iraq leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi. One of McChrystal’s deputies during that period was Harward, and the bonds between the officers remain strong. “General McChrystal and Vice Admirals McRaven and Harward have established relationships through the special operations community,” said McChrystal’s spokesman, Air Force Lt. Col. Tadd Sholtis.

In his Afghanistan review, McChrystal said that a key goal for him would be to increase coordination between his NATO command and the independent command of JSOC, which suggested that the dichotomy between using Special Operations Forces for counterterrorism and conventional forces for counterinsurgency was eroding. “One of General McChrystal’s priorities is seeking greater unity of effort across all military activities in Afghanistan, which includes regular interaction with ISAF Joint Command, regional, and task force commanders,” Sholtis said, using the acronym for NATO’s military command in Afghanistan.

As a result, McChrystal is turning to McRaven and Harward for critical tasks in Afghanistan. McRaven runs a secretive detachment of Special Forces known as Task Force 714 — once commanded by McChrystal himself — that the NSC staffer described as “direct-action” units conducting “high-intensity hits.” In an email, Sholtis said that because Task Force 714 was a “special ops organization” he “can’t go into much detail on authorities, etc.” But the NSC staffer — who called McRaven “McChrystal Squared” — said Task Force 714 was organized into “small groups of Rangers going wherever the hell they want to go” in Afghanistan and operating under legal authority granted at the end of the Bush administration that President Obama has not revoked.

In a move signaling his own importance to McChrystal, Harward will arrive in Afghanistan later this month to command a new task force, known as Task Force 435, that will take charge of detention facilities in Afghanistan, “primarily the new one at Bagram that will open this month,” Sholtis said. In his famous August strategy review, McChrystal wrote that detention operations are “critical to successful counterinsurgency operations” and need to work toward “the long-term goal of getting the U.S. out of the detention business” through transition to Afghan control — a counterinsurgency task not traditionally given to a Special Operations veteran like Harward. McChrystal’s strategy recommended creating a new command, which Harward will now lead, of “approximately 120 personnel” focused on “defeat[ing] the insurgency through intelligence collection and analysis,” prisoner de-radicalization, and working with the Afghan corrections apparatus to “employ best correctional practices [and] comply with Afghan laws.”

Last month, McChrystal delivered a request for additional troops to the Obama administration for the Afghanistan war. The request, structured as a palette of options from which the president could choose, included so-called “high-risk” options of numbers as low as 10,000 new combat troops and a so-called “low-risk” option of an 85,000-troop reinforcement. Participants in the discussions have said on background that they viewed the 85,000-troop request as an unserious option meant to clear the way for Obama to approve a middle course of around 40,000 new troops.

But while the media has typically discussed a counterterrorism approach in Afghanistan as a low-troop option, the two counterterrorism-experienced admirals are both said to favor “as many troops as we can muster,” according to the NSC staffer, who specified that McRaven and Harward were pushing for McChrystal’s largest resource option of 85,000 new troops. A senior administration official who requested anonymity said that the Obama administration was not considering a troop escalation of more than 40,000 combat troops. (It is possible that support and logistical units could increase any troop number that the administration cites as the total estimate, as happened when President Bush announced a troop surge to Iraq of about 20,000 troops in January 2007 but about 28,000 new troops actually deployed.) On Saturday, McClatchy Newspapers reported that Obama is leaning toward an increase of 34,000 troops. An announcement is expected shortly after Obama returns from a trip to Asia on Nov. 20.

The advice of McRaven and Harward to the White House strategy review, the staffer said, was to push for a “heavy, heavy, heavy COIN [counterinsurgency] presence” in select population centers like the capitol city of Kabul, while relying on new or expanded counterterrorism units like Task Force 714 for hunting and killing terrorists outside of those population centers — particularly in areas like the porous border between Afghanistan and Pakistan, a key transit point for Taliban and al-Qaeda-affiliated insurgents.

“They’re focusing on the main population centers that they think they can save with manpower on the ground, and everything else will be crossborder,” the NSC staffer said. An executive order signed by George W. Bush in mid-2008 and not revoked by Obama authorized special forces to, in some cases, cross the Afghan border into Pakistan in pursuit of top insurgent targets. “JSOC is already ramping up for that. … These are what they call kinetic, direct-action task forces,” military terminology to describe intense fighting with small units. The prospect of crossborder raids by U.S. military forces has been greeted in Pakistan as an offensive violation of Pakistani sovereignty.

The two admirals are also said to be influential with Jim Jones, Obama’s national security adviser. McRaven, at least, worked with Jones in a previous assignment, commanding Special Operations Forces in Europe in 2006 while Jones was ending his tour of duty as NATO commander. “A lot of people think Jones is not taking military counsel, that he’s anti-surge, he’s this, he’s that,” said the NSC staffer. “In reality, he’s taking counsel from pretty much a purely military palette of people, including McRaven.”

Asked about McRaven’s role in the strategy debates, Ken McGraw, a spokesman for the U.S. Special Operations Command, which oversees JSOC, said, “It would not be appropriate for us to comment on who may or may not be involved in discussions at the White House or what may or may not have been the substance of conversations at the White House.” A spokesman for the Joint Forces Command did not return repeated phone and email messages seeking comment about Harward. A spokesman for the National Security Council did not respond to a request for comment about Jones’ interactions with Harward and McRaven.

The bonds between McChrystal and the two admirals may not have been widely known because of the secrecy surrounding almost all aspects of JSOC, but the Obama administration is getting a sense of their strength. “Harward and McChrystal were running JSOC,” said the NSC staffer, “and all three of them [have been] in the nether regions forever.”

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1RobinKirk
Comment posted November 10, 2009 @ 10:04 am

Great article — it raises a number of questions, among them the Rules of Engagement for Task Forces 714 and 435. Inevitably, hunter/killer squads are tempted to expand their lists of possible targets (just as torture also expands to include more and more people). What kind of oversight and accountability are in place? Or are we in the land of “Minority Report,” where suspects can be targeted for their “potential” for violence or their perceived affinity for the Taliban or fundamentalism?


qkirk2
Comment posted November 10, 2009 @ 11:31 am

Very important……………good comment above


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JohnR
Comment posted November 10, 2009 @ 12:30 pm

Interesting; if I was a conspiracy theorist (which, of course, I am not) I would say anybody looking to foment a coup would want to put these guys up on the short list. But of course, that's just silly. Make a great movie, though.


jymallyn
Comment posted November 10, 2009 @ 2:38 pm

The real solution is to “outsource the war” by having China provide 100,000 security “Peace Keepers.”

We buy almost everything else from China. Why not mercinaries.

They would likely even provide them on credit since it helps protect China's huge mining investment in Afghanistan


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triathlon
Comment posted November 10, 2009 @ 3:32 pm

THE [EU/NATO] & THE DYING EMPIRE

It is time for the [EU/NATO] the European Union and the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, to wake up and smell the coffee or tea on the table and the roses. The American Israeli Empire has gone to [Af-Pak] The Afghanistan-Pakistan Theater of the Islamic Crescent War for Resources and Markets to die. It has come time for the [EU/NATO], to weigh the cost of any further involvement in the War for Resources and Markets that only benefit the Empire, and Empire that will no longer exist by [2020] a short decade away, [10] years. Examine the facts;

* The Demographics of the Empire are in decline, towards a Third World Culture based society.

* The Empire has no National Language

* The Empire has no National Religion

* The Empire has no unique American-Israeli Cultural Base to support its continued existence, but in fact a divided cultural base in a declining Empire.

* A Growing Secession Movement is Spreading Across the Empire;

The Republic of Alaska, America [The Confederate States/The United States],The Republic of California, “Republic of Cascadia” [Northwestern separatists envision a "Republic of Cascadia" carved out of Oregon, Washington and the Canadian province of British Columbia.], The Republic of Hawaii, The Republic of Texas. The Secession movement spreads as more and more citizens simple want to be left alone by the Empire and its minions.

* The Market Base and Economic Center has shifted from a base in [NYC] New York City, and the [NYSE] New York Stock Exchange to Hong Kong.

* The [G-8/G-20] are being replaced the [BRIC] Sphere of Influences, Brazil, The Russian Federation, India, and the Peoples Republic of China, Council of Spheres;

[Which now can be broken into Economic Sphere’s of Influence of]

** Sphere One: Brazil, Argentina, Mexico, and Venezuela.

** Sphere Two: The Common Wealth of Nations, The United Kingdom, Australia, Canada, and South Africa.

** Sphere Three: The Peoples Republic of China and Indonesia.

** Sphere Four: (EU) European Union, France, Germany, and Italy.

** Sphere Five: The Russian Federation, Armenia, Belarus, the Caucasian, Czechoslovakia, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Poland, Tajikistan Turkey and Uzbekistan.

** Sphere Six: Saudi Arabia

** Sphere Seven: United States, Japan, and South Korea.

* The ($Dollar Base Currency) has been replaced by the (Diversified Currency Base) The Spheres of Influence based currency system.

Diversified/Multilateral Currency Regime

Diversified/Multilateral Currency Regime, based upon a broader trade-weighted basket. The Multilateral Currencies would be the GLOBAL NUMERAIRE CURRENCIES [Euro, Pound Sterling, Japanese Yen, and Chinese Yuan], and hard currency Gold, Silver, Oil and Mineral Currency-The Russian Federation, Food Production Currency-Brazil, and Production Currency The Peoples Republic of China/India, assets that are less volatile, against price fluctuations, virtually context-free of the chance of their value disappearing entirely.

[BILATERAL SYSTEM]

At present there is a Bilateral [Two-Side by Side] systems, of Base Currencies operational, the Old Empire Base Currency System of the Empire Dollar, and New [Diversified/Multilateral Currency Regime/See Below] and there can only, in the end be [1] one. Soros stated that the Empire Dollar has been, is, and will continue to be a drag on the entire Global Economy as it declines into a Third World Status, along with the Empires Demography, and cultural base, and that in fact has the [BRIC] is actively engaged in [Cash and Carry/ See Below ] and Cornering of [STRATEGICALLY IMPORTANT ECONOMIC AND MILITARY] assets as hedges against the collapse of the Dollar, as the [NYSE] New York Stock Exchange is felt to be [1/3 / 33.3%] One-Third or Thirty-Three and a Third Percent over valued, and should be in the [6K] Six-Thousand Range, and the [S&P 500] Standards and Poor Five Hundred Index over-valued by [40%] Forty-Percent. Those countries that choose to remain with the Empire Base Currency will decline along with that currency, those that choose to uncouple from and shift to the Diversified/Multilateral Currency Regime, will rise with the Currency Regime, as the Empire Dollar is devaluing as the Euro and others of the New System are on the rise.

[BETWIXT AND BETWEEN]

Now, we read an article, [Generals Can't Be Trusted, by Lee Siegel, http://www.TheDailyBeast.Com., now we question as to if Lee had at any time been in the military himself, or understands the position of those on the ground, are now in, they have a [12::01] a twelve to one ratio over the [IFF] Islamic Freedom Fighters and are losing, the [MIC] Military Industrial Complex, wants to increase that ratio to a [20::01] twenty-one ratio, much as General of the Armies Douglas MacArthur, and later in Vietnam William Westmoreland, the head of U.S. Military Operations and then Army Chief of Staff [A MIC Board Member], it is always the same and Lee has got to get that understood, It’s More Money, More Troops, More Time, More Mission Creep, and More Strategies to in the end gain Victory as defined by the [Political] class. Lee just doesn’t get it, your either in or your out but you just can’t be betwixt and between. If Lee is saying we should withdraw then support a total withdrawal, if Lee is for Victory as defined by [Political] dictum than support Victory at any cost, any middle course is a crime against humanity. And the [EU/NATO] has a choice to make send troops to die for a dying Empire or look to the [21st] Century with Empire troops no longer on European soil, all bases around the globe gone, [300] three hundred countries cleared of [700] seven hundred bases of Empire Troops of Occupation. Isn’t it time to think it thru;

** it’s let’s stop killing people

** let’s stop making enemies

** let’s bring the troops home

It’s time to start the [21st] Century, to end [65] Sixty-Five years of Empire Wars of Resources and Markets, with the occupation of [300] three-hundred countries, the Empire is over, its time to place a grave stone over it.

HERCULE TRIATHON SAVINIEN


triathlon
Comment posted November 10, 2009 @ 3:45 pm

DITO ON THAT! The Question is what can anyone do about it?


Hawaiianstyle
Comment posted November 11, 2009 @ 2:49 am

Viet Nam, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan…

The British tried, the French tried in Viet Nam, the Soviets tried…

But WE are different. WE are the premier military power in the world. BUT is it military power that is really what is needed???

WE can win, we can do it, but we haven't. WE need more troops. WE haven't even after 8 years decided how to do it, counter terrorism or counter insurgency, troops or robot planes, mission creep, internal politics, corruption and graft. US mercenaries, US military industrial war industry is certainly winning. Anyone else???

Osama who??? Democracy for ….? Allied with corrupt politicians….and their brothers….? Dope growth, money, products…?

US cost in lives for…??? US cost in dollars…?

New Generals, new strategy, new methods, more men, more deaths, more money, more men, more deaths, more money.

Real progress??? Any progress???

More promises about future successes…. Defined by …?

Maybe if they have any oil it will pay for the costs…

Give me a break. I hope we are not killing our youth without a plan, method, route to success, good planning, good equipment, realistic manpower rotation.
Real quality care for our veterans…

AND a realistic reason. Certainly we are not going to wipe out the terrorists. They don't need a particular country. They can pack up and move on. They can start over anywhere there is poverty, hunger, corruption, medical needs, where the industrial revolution has bypassed the people, and where there is no clean water.

One can't help wonder if the LONG term strategy of the terrorists is to exhaust the US treasury and wear down the military in country after country.

Perhaps that is THE factor that is the defining time of the war on terror. Perhaps we are playing right into their strategy by continually increasing the troops and spending of our treasure???

Your think???


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Dr.Chronic
Comment posted November 12, 2009 @ 12:32 pm

Why doesn't the military concentrate it's efforts in acquiring resources both imaginary and real with NASA. What I mean is help make this world better by discovering new worlds in galaxies. We are fighting for nothing. Why not send recruit potential soldiers to explore new worlds? Yes, recruiters would have to be honest with potential recruits about the possibility of being killed from storms that are understudied in distant planets and the potential to be affected by alien viruses.
This new direction, would lead to more soldiers enlisting in the military because it would mean that no one needs to be killed at least on planets with visible life forms. The only negative aspect would be discovering a planet with alien lifeforms already living on a planet and the loss of massive lives through ithe spread of alien pathogens. I think we need to start thinking about such things because too much people are fighting over things which hold no importance for the time being.

On the topic of reducing rape in space by military personel( in every 3 women are raped in the military)l, well we would first start with legalizng prostitution. By doing that we could probably reduce the pent up sexual frustration from being alone in space. A soldier could have sex in space with a woman or man of his or her choice. Also, the military would have remove all articles of conscious objector related guidelines within military law for the time being because all soldiers would give everything in the world to explore new worlds in space. The military would also allow their marital partners to sleep with them on base. That would be the key in reducing rape in space.

Drugs, we would have to legalize all psychedelics in the military because soldiers could come up with new solutions with the new innovated thinking that came with such new responsitiblity. This would help reduce medical costs for the military budget as well as assist with daily living skill for future veterans and current enlisted soldiers.

In discovering new planets with alien lifeforms, we would also have to change attitudes about cultural sensitivity within the military in space. With our NASA psychedelic research, we could begin to understand alien languages and teach those languages to our military and make it requirement for future recruits to learn that alien language through whatever means possible in order to avoid violation of alien rights. Through study of those alien cultures, we would also have to require future recruits to learn the culture and traditions of said alien civilization. By doing this, we could avoid potential wars with alien civilizations because they would grateful for Earth humans that could speak their language and they would share their technologies and resources with humans from Earth.

For starters, soldiers from all around the world from China to Iran to Afghanistan to Russian, would have to train in water like NASA currently does for the astronauts until those countries could save enough money to pay potential recruits to train on the moon because training on the moon wouldn't be cheap right?

How would we pay for construction of training bases in space? With poor people from countries around the world and prisoners. We would contract with prison facilittors and pay those workers decent wages enough for them to get by. After visiting new worlds, these people would have new outlooks on life and improve their overall health both physical and mental.

What do you think. Is this possible? The world is getting old.

TLTR: Space is the place, in your face
Space is the place -Sun Ra


triathlon
Comment posted November 12, 2009 @ 3:40 pm

[DAUNTING CHALLENGES]

Now, once again we have found an interesting article worth notice on [www.TheGlobeAndMail.Com], by Mark S. Smith posted from WASHINGTON — The Associated Press Published on Thursday, Nov. 12, 2009 12:56PM EST Last updated on Thursday, Nov. 12, 2009 12:57PM EST, entitled [Obama faces daunting challenges during Far East tour], but what caught my eye was one of the return comments of the many intelligent ones posted by recommend if your reading the article and joining in on the commentary.

[Louis Robert]

“The US ambassador to Afghanistan has dramatically intervened in the debate about troop reinforcements, warning President Obama against committing tens of thousands of extra troops to the country.” (timesonline.co.uk)

“Obama fails to resuscitate the Middle East peace process. ” (guardian.co.uk)

1.Iraq is still on.

2. Guantanamo is still open.

3. Rendition program is still flourishing.

4. North and South Korea are at it again.

5. Helping colored “revolution” in Iran.

6. Unemployment at home is still rising [17%] Seventeen Percent Actual.

7. Economy is still crawling at best, Stock-Market [30%] Thirty Percent over rated, and the [S&P 500] Standards and Poor, [40%] Forty Percent over rated.

Sohu, China – Why Should China Reassure the U.S.?, by Zhang Zhixin:

The U.S. has demanded that China provide “strategic reassurance,” but what kind of “reassurance” can the U.S. provide for China?

With regards to issue concerning Taiwan, Tibet and China’s sovereignty and territorial integrity: on the one hand, the U.S. is constantly unwilling to abandon its sale of arms to Taiwan, and tries to impede the peaceful unification of the two; on the other hand, the U.S. makes eyes at radical separatists, making pretences of preserving religions, human rights and freedom in order to intervene in Chinese domestic policy. With regards to trade, the U.S. uses the excuse of protecting its industries and jobs to engage in trade protectionism. With regards to military communications, the U.S. continues to call on China to be open and transparent; however, using congressional legislation as an excuse, the U.S. has continually obstructed substantial contact between the two countries.

… when the U.S. demands that China provide “strategic reassurance,” what kind of “reassurance” can the U.S. provide for China? If the U.S. holds a reasonable hope of being able to build a strategic foundation for the long-term and stable development of China-U.S. relations, then it must not only provide “strategic reassurance” on the question of China’s core concerns, but it must feasibly act on this provision.”

“Daunting challenges”?

[DAUNTING CHALLENGES]

LOUIS ROBERT ASK: The U.S. has demanded that China provide “strategic reassurance,” but what kind of “reassurance” can the U.S. provide for China?

TRIATHLON REPLYS: With the end of American-Israeli Empire comes the end of the [MIC] the Military Industrial Complex of the Empire, the [Strategic Reassurance] that must be demanded by [PDRC] The Peoples Democratic Republic of China, a membership nation of the [BRIC] Brazil, The Russian Federation, India, and [PDRC] The Peoples Democratic Republic of China, the [21st] Century Spheres of Global Community Influence, is that within this decade not later than [2012] ALL [MIC] forces be removed from Taiwan [Nationalist China], Korea. That the [ROK] Republic of Korea be united with the [PDRK] Peoples Democratic Republic of Korea and Taiwan accept its role as a providence state of the [PDRC], under peaceful terms, under the Hong Kong example.

To that end the American-Israeli Empire must stop all sales of arms to the Nationalist Chinese Government on the Providence of Taiwan, which is impeding the peaceful re-unification of the providence with mainland China.

The Empire must immediately cease its interference in [PDRC] internal domestic affairs and its dealing with those states within its Political, Military, and Economic Sphere of Influence.

Japan should make its own demands that within this decade occupation troops of the American-Israeli Empire be removed from Japanese Territory.

There is a cost to the end of the American-Israeli Empire

HERCULE TRIATHLON SAVINIEN


triathlon
Comment posted November 14, 2009 @ 8:03 pm

THE ARAMCO CENTRAL ASIAN PIPELINE

[CIVILIAN SURGE]

Now, we just got thru reading a post on [www.ThinkProgress.Org.] by Matthew Yglesias, [War as Stimulus], and Matt has some pretty good comments on all his posting for a Progressive another term for Liberal Democratic, the boy sometimes comes pretty close to being an Independent Tea-Bagger. But, that having been said he made the observation that and we quote, [After all, they could use better security, a Provincial Reconstruction Team, and a “civilian surge” in Newark, New Jersey.] end quote. This statement could be said about more than Newark, [Detroit, part of L.A., parts of New York City etc.] and this could apply to areas in Europe, Asia, just about everywhere.

[THE ARAMCO CENTRAL ASIAN PIPELINE]

Now our boy Matt, was annoyed by the American-Israeli Empire hiding military-related expenditures in the various tax and spend bills that has always gone on, Ike got the Inter-State Road System build that way but that’s another story. The main idea of his thinking was hey guys we aren’t getting our moneys worth out of these wars of Resources and Markets [Stimulus Wars]. What Matt has forgotten is that [Af-Pak] was to be a War of Resources and Markets a [Stimulus War], In [1997], an Empire diplomat stated that Unocal oil company executives, with Empire government [DC/544] Democratic and Republicans Crooks and Criminals, approval had entertained, and met with Taliban leaders in Houston, Texas, and had offered them a generous cut of the profits of the oil and gas pumped through a [$2B/€1.3B] Two-Billion-Dollars/One-Point-Three Billion-Euros, pipeline that the Americans wanted to build from Soviet central Asia, Turkmenistan through Afghanistan, to Pakistan and India, the Central Asian Aramco pipeline, a consortium of oil companies, the same that control Saudi Oil, with an emir to be put in place with lots of Sharia law, which the Oil companies are more than willing to live with.

[MORE MONEY HONEY]

But the whole thing went south it all went wrong an became an unprofitable deal, not only were there Taliban hold outs, [More Money Honey], the pro-Empire puppet government of Hamid Karzai, once having agreed to the Empire terms for the project, got together with the Taliban hold outs and they made him see the light that the oil companies were handing out chump change and Hamid was playing the Chump. So, the oil companies decided to have an election, to put in someone who would take the deal, and that didn’t go their way either. So now we see that [Af-Pak] is really a Blood for Gas, Oil, Resources and Markets, a [Stimulus War], the question is who is going to get what out of the Stimulus the Oil Companies or Hamid and the Taliban.

[TICKET SCALPING TO THE GAME]

So, [After all, they could use better security, a Provincial Reconstruction Team, and a “civilian surge” in Newark, New Jersey.] but there isn’t any Gas or Oil in Newark, New Jersey, or comedians like Bud and Lou asking Who’s on First, to stimulate Oil Company Interests. All we have is Harmid and the Taliban scalping tickets to the game, but the Unocal oil company executives, are tight wads with their cash.

HERCULE TRIATHLON SAVINIEN
Hard-Core Independent Tea-Bagger


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triathlon
Comment posted November 17, 2009 @ 7:02 pm

ASIA EFFECTS & THE FALL OF AMERICAN-ISRAELI EMPIRE

[THE CHINESE SPHERE OF INFLUENCE]

The [BRIC] Sphere of Influences, Brazil, The Russian Federation, India, and [PRC] The Peoples Republic of China, and the countries within the Sphere of Influence of the [PRC], consists of Brunei, The China Sea, Hainan Island, Indo-China, Indonesia, Japan, Korea. Malaysia, Paracel Islands, Philippines, Spratly Islands, Taiwan & the Taiwan Strait, Tibet, Vietnam, just for starters. Its Geo-Economic Influence extends around the Economic [21st] Century Ring of Economic Fire the [PAC/RIM] Those nations bounding the Pacific Rim, Australia, [The Republic of Alaska, The Republic of California, The Republic of Hawaii, upon their secession from the American-Israeli Empire], Canada, Mexico, Central America, and South America, with extended Geo-Economic Influence into Africa [Sudan], Cuba, India, and Pakistan, thru loans and economic assistance.

[CHINA’S [2020] SEA BASED SPHERE OF INFLUENCE]

The American Israeli Empire has thru the years with the [7th] Seventh Fleets held sway in the Asia Sea but that era is now coming to an end with the end of the Empire/ Pox American Era seen not later than [2020], by the majority of Geo-Political Realist. And the era of having [2] two large consumers of energy who both can’t supply even a [1/3rd] third of their own needs, will have come to and end, along with the experiment called globalization while ending The Confrontations that have been increasing taken place since geologist found oil and gas deposits under the sea very close to, each of the nations bounding the South China Sea and was the main reason for the Empire lost [20] Twenty Year War in Vietnam, as the Empire wanted to grab a hold of the natural resources, of the South China Sea with a permanent foothold in Vietnam, claiming as much territory as possible. The area of confrontation, have extended from;

* [THE HAINAN ISLAND INCIDENT]: On April 1, 2001, a mid-air collision between a United States Navy EP-3E ARIES II signals surveillance aircraft and a People's Liberation Army Navy (PLAN) J-8II interceptor fighter jet resulted in an international dispute between the United States and the People's Republic of China (PRC) called the Hainan Island incident.

The EP-3 was operating about 70 miles (110 km) away from the PRC-controlled island of Hainan when it was intercepted by two J-8 fighters. A collision between the EP-3 and one of the J-8s caused the death of a PRC pilot, while the EP-3 was forced to make an emergency landing on Hainan. The 24 crewmembers were detained and interrogated by the Chinese authorities until a letter of apology was issued by the United States Government. It was the first foreign policy crisis in the presidency of George W. Bush. [Source: [www.wikipedia.org.]]

* [THE NANSHA ISLANDS]: Tensions with the Philippines rose on March10th, 2009, the Philippine government passed a law claiming territorial jurisdiction the disputed Nansha Islands.

* [THE PARACEL ISLANDS]: over disputed fishing grounds [China, Taiwan, and Vietnam all claim the Islands, [640km/346 sea mi] Six-hundred-forty kilometer/Three-hundred-sea miles, south of Hong Kong, surrounding the Islands, China has in the past dispatched converted naval vessels into the area.

* [THE SPRATLY ISLANDS]: The [USNS] Impeccable, a submarine tracker/sky ship, was involved in a naval skirmish and harassed on March 8th, 2009, with [5] five Chinese vessels by Chinese vessels, while conducting illegal surveillance in waters under Chinese jurisdictional authority.

But with the decline of the American-Israeli Empire BY [2020], and the (PM) Prime Minister Wen, having no problem signing a (£10B/$17B) ten-billon British Pound/Seventeen-Billion Dollar, deal to buy British technology to help Modernize and advance China’s technologies, has announced plans to expand its naval capability, with the goal of the establishment of its Sea Based Sphere of Influence with military forces sufficient enough to establish itself as the most powerful player within its Sea Based Sphere of Influence, with the mission not only to be prepared to fight but to deter or prevent the out break of hostilities within its Sphere of Influence, and within that decade of change, the concept that the Empire would be safe from any Chinese Submarine or surface ship, retaliation of pre-emptive strike by the fallen Empire or some overwhelming numerical and technological edge on the open seas will no longer exist. With China having far more than just [2] two advanced [Type 051C] destroyers, which are fitted with cutting-edge air defense missile systems. And there has been intense speculation over recent months that Beijing will soon announce its intention to develop its first aircraft carrier, as China has an aircraft carrier research and design programme, and is interested in buying carrier-borne aircraft from it [BRIC] partner The Russian Federation.

[CHINA’S [2020] REGIONAL SPHERE OF INFLUENCE

* [INDIA]: The Empire’s (CIA) Central Intelligence Agency is in Nepal, with underground bases having been constructed between Kings Road to the Empire Embassy in Maharaja a distance of (3mi/4.8km) Three miles/Four-Point-Eight Kilometers. India and the Empire increasingly have been developing the ability to launch an attack on the (PRC) Peoples Republic of Communist Red China

* [JAPAN]: Japan will soon have the capability to knock out China’s entire land based [ICBM] Inter-Continental Ballistic Missiles, force should the Chinese attempt a [1st] first or [2nd] second strike launch. Japan has been working with Raytheon out of the New Mexico desert, with the Japanese/Raytheon team having just finished conducting [2] two successful surface to space missile intercepts using their own, new, [PAC 3] version of the [Patriot STS] missile system. a surging This means Japan will be able to immediately and confidently deploy their own land based [PAC 3’s] to augment their growing array of American sea-based [Aegis) SM-3 ICBM/killer missiles].

But, there has been a political earthquake in as Japan too is seeing the end of the Empire by [2020], seeing itself as equals with the Empire no longer a senior-versus-junior partnership, and now wants closer Geo-Political diplomatic relations, forming a new Asian trading block exclusive of the Empire, with the new assertive Sphere of Influence of China. Japan is now demanding that within this decade [10] years, and by [2020] the American-Israeli Empire remove all its [47K/MIC] Forty-Seven Thousand, Military Industrial Complex troops of occupation, from Japanese Territory. The [PM] Prime Minster Yukio Hatoyama has halted Japan’s refueling of Empire led forces in [Af-Pac] War of Stimulus, Blood for Resources and Markets War.

* [KOREA]: The Empire is preparing to send an envoy Stephen Bosworth to the [PRK] Peoples Republic of North Korea, Pyongyang for rare direct talks, in a effort to replace the armistice agreement that ended the Korean War on the [26th of July 1953], with a permanent peace treaty while keeping its nuclear weapons. While the [ROK] The Republic of South Korea, after many decades of dithering, recently reached an agreement with the Empire to deploy on their soil [SM-3 and PAC 3] missile batteries by as early as [2011]. The Empire maintains [28K] Twenty-Eight-Thousand combat troops of occupation along the155-mile-long (155mi/248km-kilometers-long) One-fifty-five mile/Two-hundred-forty- eight kilometer, strewn with land mines, tank traps, and barbed wire laced [DMZ] De-Militarized Zone, drawn unilaterally by the US-led United Nations Command at the end of the 1950-53 Korean War, which has never been accepted by North Korea.

The Empire is planning to send to the [PRK] Capital of Pyongyang, envoy Stephen Bosworth, to discuss their nuclear weapons program, and to replace the armistice agreement that ended the Korean Civil War, on [26th July 1953], with a permanent peace treaty which is naïve in the present climate of decline as the American-Israeli Empire will no longer exist after [2020], as shown by the first naval clash in [7] Seven years having occurred on Tuesday the [10th of Nov. 2009/ 11:27 a.m./0227 GMT] off of the [ROK] Daecheong Island, [120] One-hundred-twenty nautical miles/[220km] Two-hundred-twenty kilometers off the [ROK] Port city of Incheon, West of Seoul, [in rich crab-fishing grounds off the Korean Peninsula's western coast, in the Yellow Sea, just another in a long list of confrontations between the [WWII] World War Two, Yalta, Agreement divided country.

It is time for the [ROK] to cut a deal with the [PRK], The Empire will no longer exist within a maximum time frame of [1] One decade, [10] ten short years, with its troops in the graveyard of Empires, with no hope of victory. It is over and the citizens of the [ROK] should look to either migrate to any other country but the Empire as it will be facing internal problems of its own, or come to terms with the new reality of being under the Sphere of Influence of China. The [ROK] should be united with the [PRK] peaceful terms, under the Hong Kong example.

* [TAIWAN]: Taiwan [Nationalist China] with the Empire constantly being unwilling to abandon its sale of arms to Taiwan, and tries to impede the peaceful re-unification of the break away province with mainland China, going as far as having Taiwan working with Raytheon, since [2007], to construct its own [PAC 3] anti-ballistic missile system. But, increasingly China has exerted itself as the Sphere of Influence within is area stopping the sale of advance arms to the break away province, and has as a main goal of China’s military buildup is to have sufficient forces on hand in the event of war across the Taiwan Strait, if necessary, if the province continues it’s claim of secession, in the new reality of the ending of the American-Israeli Empire.

[IN CCONCLUSION]

It is without doubt the height of insanity to believe that the Empire would believe that, in the very near or distant future, it highly unlikely if not impossible that China could not respond with its own retaliatory strike against a pre-emptive nuclear strike by the Empire using one of own [80-120] land based [ICBM’s] at present and in the future with new technological advances, and in the new reality it would be hubris, to consider South Korea, Japan or Taiwan as a bulwark of defense from a retaliatory response. With the End of Empire there comes change, and those within the Spheres of Influence of the new Geo-political reality must come to term within those Spheres, ending confrontation within them, it is time within the Sphere of Influence of China for South Korea, Japan, and Taiwan along with others to face the new reality.

HERCULE TRIATHLON SAVINIEN


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[THE CHINESE SPHERE OF INFLUENCE]

The [BRIC] Sphere of Influences, Brazil, The Russian Federation, India, and [PRC] The Peoples Republic of China, and the countries within the Sphere of Influence of the [PRC], consists of Brunei, The China Sea, Hainan Island, Indo-China, Indonesia, Japan, Korea. Malaysia, Paracel Islands, Philippines, Spratly Islands, Taiwan & the Taiwan Strait, Tibet, Vietnam, just for starters. Its Geo-Economic Influence extends around the Economic [21st] Century Ring of Economic Fire the [PAC/RIM] Those nations bounding the Pacific Rim, Australia, [The Republic of Alaska, The Republic of California, The Republic of Hawaii, upon their secession from the American-Israeli Empire], Canada, Mexico, Central America, and South America, with extended Geo-Economic Influence into Africa [Sudan], Cuba, India, and Pakistan, thru loans and economic assistance.

[CHINA’S [2020] SEA BASED SPHERE OF INFLUENCE]

The American Israeli Empire has thru the years with the [7th] Seventh Fleets held sway in the Asia Sea but that era is now coming to an end with the end of the Empire/ Pox American Era seen not later than [2020], by the majority of Geo-Political Realist. And the era of having [2] two large consumers of energy who both can’t supply even a [1/3rd] third of their own needs, will have come to and end, along with the experiment called globalization while ending The Confrontations that have been increasing taken place since geologist found oil and gas deposits under the sea very close to, each of the nations bounding the South China Sea and was the main reason for the Empire lost [20] Twenty Year War in Vietnam, as the Empire wanted to grab a hold of the natural resources, of the South China Sea with a permanent foothold in Vietnam, claiming as much territory as possible. The area of confrontation, have extended from;

* [THE HAINAN ISLAND INCIDENT]: On April 1, 2001, a mid-air collision between a United States Navy EP-3E ARIES II signals surveillance aircraft and a People's Liberation Army Navy (PLAN) J-8II interceptor fighter jet resulted in an international dispute between the United States and the People's Republic of China (PRC) called the Hainan Island incident.

The EP-3 was operating about 70 miles (110 km) away from the PRC-controlled island of Hainan when it was intercepted by two J-8 fighters. A collision between the EP-3 and one of the J-8s caused the death of a PRC pilot, while the EP-3 was forced to make an emergency landing on Hainan. The 24 crewmembers were detained and interrogated by the Chinese authorities until a letter of apology was issued by the United States Government. It was the first foreign policy crisis in the presidency of George W. Bush. [Source: [www.wikipedia.org.]]

* [THE NANSHA ISLANDS]: Tensions with the Philippines rose on March10th, 2009, the Philippine government passed a law claiming territorial jurisdiction the disputed Nansha Islands.

* [THE PARACEL ISLANDS]: over disputed fishing grounds [China, Taiwan, and Vietnam all claim the Islands, [640km/346 sea mi] Six-hundred-forty kilometer/Three-hundred-sea miles, south of Hong Kong, surrounding the Islands, China has in the past dispatched converted naval vessels into the area.

* [THE SPRATLY ISLANDS]: The [USNS] Impeccable, a submarine tracker/sky ship, was involved in a naval skirmish and harassed on March 8th, 2009, with [5] five Chinese vessels by Chinese vessels, while conducting illegal surveillance in waters under Chinese jurisdictional authority.

But with the decline of the American-Israeli Empire BY [2020], and the (PM) Prime Minister Wen, having no problem signing a (£10B/$17B) ten-billon British Pound/Seventeen-Billion Dollar, deal to buy British technology to help Modernize and advance China’s technologies, has announced plans to expand its naval capability, with the goal of the establishment of its Sea Based Sphere of Influence with military forces sufficient enough to establish itself as the most powerful player within its Sea Based Sphere of Influence, with the mission not only to be prepared to fight but to deter or prevent the out break of hostilities within its Sphere of Influence, and within that decade of change, the concept that the Empire would be safe from any Chinese Submarine or surface ship, retaliation of pre-emptive strike by the fallen Empire or some overwhelming numerical and technological edge on the open seas will no longer exist. With China having far more than just [2] two advanced [Type 051C] destroyers, which are fitted with cutting-edge air defense missile systems. And there has been intense speculation over recent months that Beijing will soon announce its intention to develop its first aircraft carrier, as China has an aircraft carrier research and design programme, and is interested in buying carrier-borne aircraft from it [BRIC] partner The Russian Federation.

[CHINA’S [2020] REGIONAL SPHERE OF INFLUENCE

* [INDIA]: The Empire’s (CIA) Central Intelligence Agency is in Nepal, with underground bases having been constructed between Kings Road to the Empire Embassy in Maharaja a distance of (3mi/4.8km) Three miles/Four-Point-Eight Kilometers. India and the Empire increasingly have been developing the ability to launch an attack on the (PRC) Peoples Republic of Communist Red China

* [JAPAN]: Japan will soon have the capability to knock out China’s entire land based [ICBM] Inter-Continental Ballistic Missiles, force should the Chinese attempt a [1st] first or [2nd] second strike launch. Japan has been working with Raytheon out of the New Mexico desert, with the Japanese/Raytheon team having just finished conducting [2] two successful surface to space missile intercepts using their own, new, [PAC 3] version of the [Patriot STS] missile system. a surging This means Japan will be able to immediately and confidently deploy their own land based [PAC 3’s] to augment their growing array of American sea-based [Aegis) SM-3 ICBM/killer missiles].

But, there has been a political earthquake in as Japan too is seeing the end of the Empire by [2020], seeing itself as equals with the Empire no longer a senior-versus-junior partnership, and now wants closer Geo-Political diplomatic relations, forming a new Asian trading block exclusive of the Empire, with the new assertive Sphere of Influence of China. Japan is now demanding that within this decade [10] years, and by [2020] the American-Israeli Empire remove all its [47K/MIC] Forty-Seven Thousand, Military Industrial Complex troops of occupation, from Japanese Territory. The [PM] Prime Minster Yukio Hatoyama has halted Japan’s refueling of Empire led forces in [Af-Pac] War of Stimulus, Blood for Resources and Markets War.

* [KOREA]: The Empire is preparing to send an envoy Stephen Bosworth to the [PRK] Peoples Republic of North Korea, Pyongyang for rare direct talks, in a effort to replace the armistice agreement that ended the Korean War on the [26th of July 1953], with a permanent peace treaty while keeping its nuclear weapons. While the [ROK] The Republic of South Korea, after many decades of dithering, recently reached an agreement with the Empire to deploy on their soil [SM-3 and PAC 3] missile batteries by as early as [2011]. The Empire maintains [28K] Twenty-Eight-Thousand combat troops of occupation along the155-mile-long (155mi/248km-kilometers-long) One-fifty-five mile/Two-hundred-forty- eight kilometer, strewn with land mines, tank traps, and barbed wire laced [DMZ] De-Militarized Zone, drawn unilaterally by the US-led United Nations Command at the end of the 1950-53 Korean War, which has never been accepted by North Korea.

The Empire is planning to send to the [PRK] Capital of Pyongyang, envoy Stephen Bosworth, to discuss their nuclear weapons program, and to replace the armistice agreement that ended the Korean Civil War, on [26th July 1953], with a permanent peace treaty which is naïve in the present climate of decline as the American-Israeli Empire will no longer exist after [2020], as shown by the first naval clash in [7] Seven years having occurred on Tuesday the [10th of Nov. 2009/ 11:27 a.m./0227 GMT] off of the [ROK] Daecheong Island, [120] One-hundred-twenty nautical miles/[220km] Two-hundred-twenty kilometers off the [ROK] Port city of Incheon, West of Seoul, [in rich crab-fishing grounds off the Korean Peninsula's western coast, in the Yellow Sea, just another in a long list of confrontations between the [WWII] World War Two, Yalta, Agreement divided country.

It is time for the [ROK] to cut a deal with the [PRK], The Empire will no longer exist within a maximum time frame of [1] One decade, [10] ten short years, with its troops in the graveyard of Empires, with no hope of victory. It is over and the citizens of the [ROK] should look to either migrate to any other country but the Empire as it will be facing internal problems of its own, or come to terms with the new reality of being under the Sphere of Influence of China. The [ROK] should be united with the [PRK] peaceful terms, under the Hong Kong example.

* [TAIWAN]: Taiwan [Nationalist China] with the Empire constantly being unwilling to abandon its sale of arms to Taiwan, and tries to impede the peaceful re-unification of the break away province with mainland China, going as far as having Taiwan working with Raytheon, since [2007], to construct its own [PAC 3] anti-ballistic missile system. But, increasingly China has exerted itself as the Sphere of Influence within is area stopping the sale of advance arms to the break away province, and has as a main goal of China’s military buildup is to have sufficient forces on hand in the event of war across the Taiwan Strait, if necessary, if the province continues it’s claim of secession, in the new reality of the ending of the American-Israeli Empire.

[IN CCONCLUSION]

It is without doubt the height of insanity to believe that the Empire would believe that, in the very near or distant future, it highly unlikely if not impossible that China could not respond with its own retaliatory strike against a pre-emptive nuclear strike by the Empire using one of own [80-120] land based [ICBM’s] at present and in the future with new technological advances, and in the new reality it would be hubris, to consider South Korea, Japan or Taiwan as a bulwark of defense from a retaliatory response. With the End of Empire there comes change, and those within the Spheres of Influence of the new Geo-political reality must come to term within those Spheres, ending confrontation within them, it is time within the Sphere of Influence of China for South Korea, Japan, and Taiwan along with others to face the new reality.

HERCULE TRIATHLON SAVINIEN


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