House Votes to Denounce Goldstone’s Gaza War Crimes Report

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Is there another governing body anywhere in the world that requires fealty to a foreign nation as a requirement for membership?

So sad! The Israeli's really must have done something really terrible to need all this protection. A simple credible investigation would have cleared things up. Now the dark cloud over the IDF will never go away. And to think that denying the Holocaust is (quite rightly) considered to be a terrible thing. The hypocrisy is staggering.

So, the House of Representatives has confirmed to the world that America is run by an AIPAC administration, headed by an AIPAC president and supported by an AIPAC congress – how absurd!

A reputable South African jurist of world-standing and reputation carries out an independent report for the UN on war crimes in Gaza, last January, and concludes that ISRAEL had committed war crimes by killing 900 civilians.

AIPAC immediately instructs the White House and congress to rubbish the report as it damages their cause which is the support of the state that is alleged guilty! And congress obliges! What a horrific outcome for a supposed democracy! What a complete and utter tragedy!

The world laughs at and cries for America. Fortunately, the EU, China, India and Russia will shortly eclipse the US and AIPAC – and not before time.

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This is a stupid comment, bluecanary. Do you think China and Russia are going to be better for human rights than the United States? And by giving AIPAC such an exaggerated influence, you do realize it sounds like an old anti-Semitic canard about nefarious Jews running the world, right? We can all condemn AIPAC and their outsized, pernicious influence, but you sound about as rational as a teabagger.

Interesting comment brendanm, but please remind me. On how many occasions has the US has used its veto on the Security Council and how many of those votes have involved Israel? Has the US ever supported a resolution 'against' Israel? Would you agree that the Security Council voting record of the US is somewhat biased towards Israel and that this bias might not reflect the opinion of the US electorate? And if you agree that a bias exists that it not shared by the US voters, who could possibly be driving the US voting patterns? What lobby group could possibly have this power? Just a thought.

I said “[w]e can all condemn AIPAC and their outsized, pernicious influence,” and I do, but to say the United States is run by AIPAC is an extreme exaggeration. I feel it is my duty as a progressive critic of the Israeli government and of the neo-conservative influence in ours to stamp out any semblance of anti-Semitism on our side, and exaggerating the influence of Jews or Jewish groups, the use of “neocon” as a euphemism for Jews, or the overuse/misuse of the term “neocon” are all potential signs of it.

And the idea that Russia, China, or even India would do a better job promoting human rights than the United States is absurd. We may be somewhat selective, but we at least make it a part of our foreign policy.

brendanm, I support you in your efforts to “stamp out any semblance of anti-Semitism” and do not subscribe to the view that Jews or Jewish groups “rule the World”, but they do seem to have an unhealthy influence on the US politic, and this influence (by the very nature of the US being able to 'lean' on other sovereign countries to follow the US lead) does give the appearance that AIPAC and the like are able to 'fight well above their weight'. This is unhealthy, very unhealthy. I note also that anyone who dares to criticize Israeli actions is immediately branded as anti-Semitic by the Jewish lobby – Judge Goldstone is a case in point. Strangely enough, I have never head of anyone being branded as anti-Palestinian, anti-Arab, or anti-Islamic. And no, I am not Islamic.

Regarding your comments about human rights, it may be that the US have a better human rights record than the others mentioned, but the US record is really nothing to be proud of. bluecanary is not far off the mark when he predicts the demise of the US as a Superpower. So wouldn't it be better for all of us to put in place precedents for human rights conduct while we still have a Superpower whose human rights records is somewhat better than the 'Superpowers in waiting'?

Well, we agree then.

And for the record, I accuse people of being anti-Arab/Islamic all the time. The foreign minister of Israel is as blatant case of an anti-Arab racist as visible on the world stage.

Agree? Perhaps.

You may have noted that recent events within Palestine in reaction to Israeli expansionist activities and general actions 'in bad faith' might also spell the demise of the 'two-state' solution. A 'one-state' solution … interesting concept!

On a final note I fear that the lable anti-Semitic will soon become a lable worn with pride if the Israeli's are unable to come to their senses and recognise the realities of their situation

Well, I certainly don't disagree with any of what you wrote above, so I imagine we generally agree on these issues.

I support a one-state solution; a single secular, bi-national state is my ideal solution. I also support a single-payer, quasi-socialized health care system. In both cases, the ideal is not practical or realistic and a two-state solution/the current HCR bill is better than nothing.

As far as anti-Semitism, it is sadly already widespread in much of the Arab and Muslim world, where even university-educated, middle-class people accept the Protocols of the Elders of Zion as valid. This is certainly an impediment to peace, which is why someone like Mustafa Barghouti needs to embraced rather than marginalized, as Israeli and American policy effectively does, unfortunately.

Well, I certainly don't disagree with any of what you wrote above, so I imagine we generally agree on these issues.

I support a one-state solution; a single secular, bi-national state is my ideal solution. I also support a single-payer, quasi-socialized health care system. In both cases, the ideal is not practical or realistic and a two-state solution/the current HCR bill is better than nothing.

As far as anti-Semitism, it is sadly already widespread in much of the Arab and Muslim world, where even university-educated, middle-class people accept the Protocols of the Elders of Zion as valid. This is certainly an impediment to peace, which is why someone like Mustafa Barghouti needs to embraced rather than marginalized, as Israeli and American policy effectively does, unfortunately.