Birtherism at Accuracy in Media

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Friday, October 23, 2009 at 10:44 am

The conservative watchdog group Accuracy in Media is holding a 40th anniversary conference at Washington’s Omni Shoreham hotel today, with speakers including Rep. Lamar Smith (R-Tex.), National Review’s Jonah Goldberg, and Hans van Spakovsky. A revealing morning panel introduced conservatives to Trevor Loudon, whose New Zeal blog has become a source for stories linking the White House to radicals. In his speech, Loudon connected the dots between George Soros, elements of the Communist Party and the Obama administration.

“The reason the White House is going after Fox News is that they are, or were, on their trail,” said AIM’s Cliff Kincaid, arguing that Fox had been informed by Loudon’s research.

During the Q&A, however, it was clear that AIM members wanted Kincaid and Loudon to go further. One woman informed them that she’d traveled to Kenya last year and that multiple Kenyans offered her a guided tour of “Obama’s birthplace.” Loudon mostly blew the question off.

“The Kenya birth situation is a very controversial one and I can’t say either way,” he said. “I’m sure the tours are a lucrative business for some people.”

Kincaid went a little further. “I don’t know the ultimate truth about where he was born,” he said. “All I have done through Accuracy in Media — I’ve released a copy of my own birth certificate.” He went through all of the information included on there that wasn’t included on Obama’s “certification of birth, or whatever they call it.”

Rather famously, Kincaid caused a little heartburn at CPAC 2009 by telling attendees of the conservative conference that “at least in the 1980s we knew the president was born in the United States.”

“I know it’s a controversial topic,” said Kincaid this morning, “but we at AIM stick to what we can prove.”

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Antibirther
Comment posted October 23, 2009 @ 3:56 pm

Hey, David, have you seen the latest Lucas Smith affadavit?

LOL


Antibirther
Comment posted October 23, 2009 @ 4:02 pm

Cliff Kincaid, the editor of Accuracy in Media, has released a copy of his own birth certificate, in order to demonstrate what needs to be done to resolve the growing controversy over the alleged birth certificate of President Barack Obama. “My birth certificate includes the names of my mother and father, my mother's doctor, and the hospital in which I was born,” said Kincaid. “This certified copy of an original long form document is what anyone who wants to be president should be prepared to produce. Why is this a controversy?”

Well, Cliff, I noticed that your copy was issued in 1982.

Get a new copy from the state of Missouri and post it why don’t you. Missouri only issues “short forms” now.


Bokep Indo
Comment posted October 23, 2009 @ 4:07 pm

Just found your blog through Google, and I have to say I thoroughly enjoy it. Thank you for the information…


mantis
Comment posted October 23, 2009 @ 5:11 pm

“I know it’s a controversial topic,” said Kincaid this morning, “but we at AIM stick to what we can prove.”

Was this a comedy routine?


Elizabeth
Comment posted October 23, 2009 @ 5:25 pm

Hmmmm. Kincaid's BC is from 1982. Perhaps he should order a new copy to see what his state includes on a BC now. Hawaii changed the info that the put on a COLB just a few years ago.


mike
Comment posted October 23, 2009 @ 5:32 pm

LOL!!! I just love it. They still don't GET why they lost in 06 and 08. Can't wait till 2010 and12. The funny thing is they won't understand why they lost again. Then you will really see the bat sh*t crazy coming out the woodworks. You can change strategies but you can't change crazy and they are pretty much stuck with these “leaders” for a few more election cycles. One thing the repubs haven’t figured out yet is their control of the main stream media isn’t what it used to be because, with the internet the truth has a nasty habit of getting out there when the main stream media is busy doing the right wing echo chamber work. They can’t control the message like they are used to and the fact they are conservatives pretty much means it’ll be a while before they try something new. Again, I am LMAO!!!!


Antibirther
Comment posted October 23, 2009 @ 5:42 pm

“who's on first”
“I don't know.”
“Third Base”


strangely_enough
Comment posted October 23, 2009 @ 5:47 pm

The Birther version of Cokie's Law- “it's out there.”


strangely_enough
Comment posted October 23, 2009 @ 5:48 pm

“I’m sure the tours are a lucrative business for some people.”

It's the small, perhaps accidental, admissions that say so much…


AristotleTheHun
Comment posted October 23, 2009 @ 5:51 pm

The most liberal politician in America gets elected in the most crooked election in the nation’s history and the lamebrains who support him think he is opposed because of his race. These same halfwits think a phony document posted on the Internet proves this same con man is eligible to hold the highest office in the land.

He is opposed because he is a crooked big city con man with a socialist agenda. Alan Keyes is strongly opposed to Obama. Is he a racist? Is Michael Steele a racist?

If you are not suspicious of a man who hides his history I have a bridge in the desert I want to sell you.

If you are unwilling to call for an investigation of a man who attempts to sell you a bridge in the desert I have some beach front property in Florida at the intersection of I75 and Florida # 29 that I want you to buy.

If you place a down payment on a contract for the bridge in the desert and the beach front property in the swamp I would conclude that you voted for Obama.

Can you pass the: Obama Eligibility Logic Test?

http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/09/obama…

Or get educated and read:

Somehow, you know its coming. That OMG moment is just around the corner. You can feel the inescapable reality creeping up on you. Something will leak. Someone will spill the beans.

“For nothing is hid that shall not be made manifest, nor anything secret that shall not be known and come to light.” Luke 8:17

Obama “I have nothing to hide but I’m hiding it.”

http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/04/aka-o…


bearclaw
Comment posted October 23, 2009 @ 6:21 pm

Sorry, I couldn't get past your characterization of President Obama as “the most liberal politician in America”. Pretty funny.

So if Obama isn't eligible to be President, then the Obama/Biden ticket has to be tossed out of the 2008 election results. As does the McCain/Palin ticket, because McCain wasn't born in the United States. (And authoritative birfers insist that “natural born citizen” means “born in the U.S. to parents who are both American citizens”).

If you go back to the results of the 2008 election (since there is no Constitutional provision for “re-doing” elections, in fact the timing of national elections is Constitutionally specified), and eliminate the Democrats and Republicans, the following are your Electoral College results:

McKinney/Clement: 9 electors
Baldwin/Castle: 39 electors
Barr/Root: 148 electors

and introducing the new President and Vice President of the United States, with an overwhelming 739,057 votes (over 1/2 of 1 percent of the popular vote!), and a whopping 335* electors: President Ralph Nader and Vice President Matt Gonzalez.

Still want to argue that Barack Obama is the most liberal politician in the United States?

*The 7 electors for Oklahoma are unassigned in my tally, because it appears that only the two major parties were on the ballot in that state.


mantis
Comment posted October 23, 2009 @ 6:36 pm

The most liberal politician in America

Good one. Tell another.

gets elected in the most crooked election in the nation’s history

Damn, you're hilarious!

and the lamebrains who support him think he is opposed because of his race.

Those lamebrains!

These same halfwits think a phony document posted on the Internet proves this same con man is eligible to hold the highest office in the land.

Says an idiot birther who probably believes in all of the birther forged (and birther-punking) certificates floating out there.

Obama “I have nothing to hide but I’m hiding it.”

You quote him, but he never said that. That makes you a liar, crazy ass birther.


24WienersAheadDotCom
Comment posted October 23, 2009 @ 7:17 pm

I think for most people the OMG moment is when they find out that you brag about being a member of MENSA and that your wife's name is Bunny.

You have been blathering on and on since last year about how the OMG moment was coming. Is this the kind of keen perception that you and the Bunster utilize in your day jobs?

Goethe: “There is nothing worse than aggressive stupidity.”


mike
Comment posted October 23, 2009 @ 7:18 pm

Take a deep breath and calm down. Everything will be alright, there there. Take off your tin foil hat and step out of your “safe” room….nobody is going to hurt you…Are you okay now? Good. Now listen to me carefully. What I'm about to tell you won't make any sense to you unless your willing to come outside and see that Armageddon hasn't started. It's just a regular sunny day. Do ya feel better yet? Good.
Okay here goes…President Obama IS an American citizen born in Hawaii. He is NOT a socialist or a Nazi or a communist or a fascist or a Muslim or a terrorist. He doesn't want to brainwash your kids or kill your grandparents or take away your guns. There really was a moon landing. The earth is older than 5000 years. Cavemen did not ride dinosaurs like in the Flintstones. President Bush did not plan the 911 attack. It really was a plane and not a missile that hit the Pentagon. Iraq did not attack us on 911 it was 15 Saudi, 1 Egyptian, 1 Lebanese and 2 United Arab Emirates who were all part of Al Qaeda. Remember now? Osama bin Laden? Remember now? Good…
I never said that most conservatives are ignorant people, what I said was most ignorant people are conservatives.
Feel better now?


bearclaw
Comment posted October 23, 2009 @ 7:24 pm

Now we know who buys the $5 “genuine” Rolex watches from New York City street vendors.


JohnC
Comment posted October 23, 2009 @ 9:48 pm

zzzzzzzz….


monkey99
Comment posted October 25, 2009 @ 1:12 am

So, all the toilers get together and grouse about the nonsense they create about a Constitutionally elected President (he is, whether you like it or not) to try to “depose” him (sorry, never happen), with forgeries and other sundry bull dukey (which is all you toilers have).

Don't you nuts have a life? Or is thinking up this crap all you have to do in a day?

Fox noise are just opinion shows. You folk really should hit the books. Maybe then you'll be able to tell the difference between a bullshit opinion and REAL news, which Fox ISN'T.

McCarthy would wince at what you nuts are doing. You are really unAmerican with this garbage, can't you see that? Oh, I forgot….You're all too stupid to see the truth. Tsk.


AristotleTheHun
Comment posted October 25, 2009 @ 6:26 am

THURSDAY, JULY 23, 2009
Nixon's Watergate – Obama's Certifigate
• June 17, 1972: Five men, one of whom says he used to work for the CIA, are arrested at 2:30 a.m. trying to bug the offices of the Democratic National Committee at the Watergate hotel and office complex.

• August 8, 1974: Richard Nixon becomes the first U.S. president to resign. Vice President Gerald R. Ford assumes the country's highest office. He will later pardon Nixon of all charges related to the Watergate case.
A little over 2 years
• * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
• Tuesday, June 16, 2008
Obama committed felony document fraud and posted a false identification document on the Internet.
• Monday, March 30, 2009
Somethings coming – Something big! Obama's going down!
The Federal Grand Jury is the 4th Branch of Government -by Leo C. Donofrio, J.D.
• First Citizens Grand Jury Indictment http://riseupforamerica.com/ Carl Swenson
• Monday, April 13, 2009 Bob Campbell asks for evidence for American Grand Jury – Sam Sewell appointed as National Spokesperson for American Grand Jury
American Grand Jury Evidence Collecting Request
• Tuesday, April 21, 2009
AKA Obama Fans: All together now – say OMG!! published by Aristotle the Hun
• Press Release on May 9, 2009 AMERICAN GRAND JURY HANDS DOWN INDICTMENT OF FRAUD AND TREASON AGAINST OBAMA
• July 20th, 2009 Media coverage on the eligibility issue goes nationwide amidst much scorn and ridicule.
• Oct. 5, 2209 – Judge refuses Obama demand to dismiss eligibility case
So we have until next August to get rid of Obama quicker than we got rid of Nixon


monkey99
Comment posted October 25, 2009 @ 9:15 am

Still toiling away, it seems.

Where do you meatpuppets get this crap from? Do you think this shit up, or does someone think it up for you? It's all hilarious, but never boring! It's never the same each time.

I can't wait for the next bit of nonsense. You nuts are better than comedy TV! Say, you wackos should have your own show! Call it “The Indefensible Dream”, or “What's my lie?” No, I should leave it to you nuts, you'll come up with something even more ridiculous! Keep it up!


AristotleTheHun
Comment posted October 25, 2009 @ 6:17 pm

Although the exact number may very, the Hundredth Monkey Phenomenon means that when only a limited number of people know of a new way, it may remain the consciousness property of these people.

But there is a point at which if only one more person tunes-in to a new awareness, a field is strengthened so that this awareness is picked up by almost everyone!

Your awareness is needed in saving the world from Obama.

You may be the “Hundredth Monkey” . . . .


Anteni
Comment posted October 26, 2009 @ 5:02 am

“One woman informed them that she’d traveled to Kenya last year and that multiple Kenyans offered her a guided tour of “Obama’s birthplace.””

I wonder if she paid. This is what we consider a con-job. An intelligent person would say “No thank you. I will not fly you to Hawaii.”


bearclaw
Comment posted October 26, 2009 @ 6:12 pm

You berfers are just so gosh darn cute. You will believe anything! Do you ever do any research, or do just repeat whatever you have heard? Does it seem a little preposterous to you that once 100 monkeys on one island start washing their food, a bunch of monkeys on another island spontaneously start doing the same thing? No? It ought to.

The Hundredth Monkey Phenomenon is a fraud:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hundredth-monkey_e…


Dr. Maloney
Comment posted October 26, 2009 @ 6:32 pm

The Judge did not refuse the Motion to Dismiss, he is taking it under advisement. His court has also been requested to take Judicial Notice of the results of the similar case in Judge Land's court where Oily Titz is being sanctioned for $20,000. She will soon be disbarred and the case in Orange County will be dismissed — guaranteed.

The so-called Grand Juries are a joke. Taitz is not even licensed to practice in many of those states and her “evidence” is an exercise in mental masturbation. Give it up, wingnuts. Obama is President. You lose.


geirsmith
Comment posted October 26, 2009 @ 10:03 pm

Dr Maloney, why do u seem to want this to go your way
can't u accept reality to just take it's course ? I don't think ur version is objective at all
orly taitz and the judge himself both voiced very different opinions
they say things like “this is a serious question concerning all Americans”
aren't u afraid of seeming very oriented biased and closed-minded *DR* ?


Dr. Maloney
Comment posted October 26, 2009 @ 10:58 pm

Who is this nutcase? For your edification (I hope that word is not too difficult for you), ONLY the judge's opinion is valid in court, not the biased opinion of a mail order law degree who sleeps with her disbarred legal assistant and spends $300 on lunches from the money her moron followers contribute. I'll bet you're among them.

I studied Constitutional Law on the way to earning my PhD many years ago and am completely comfortable in the knowledge that Obama CANNOT be removed by a single Federal judge, but ONLY by Congress through impeachment. This would have to be the same Congress who voted 378-0 to affirm that Hawaii was indeed his birthplace. GOOD LUCK ON THAT ONE.

You can be controlled — it's called medication and I strongly recommend Cymbalta to you. Your paranoia about the Antichrist and that mark on your wrist must be a heavy burden to carry. I'll bet your feeling hopeless knowing that the Antichrist is now President. I'll bet that feels freaky. Feeling damned?????


geirsmith
Comment posted October 26, 2009 @ 11:22 pm

edification is like figs that are dried ?


geirsmith
Comment posted October 26, 2009 @ 11:33 pm

i studied tibetan on the way to doing a life of religion
u seem to have trouble with ur grip on reality
the suit will be in jan
we're not in jan
look the leaves are still on the trees
u can be controlled but u don't want tit
do u know this thing called reading the lines ?
i spoke about controlling the public for guys like u who are afraid and doing it in your pants
jan is in three months about
how are u going to handle the mob until then
aristotle the hun is here hassling u
how u gonna handle a hun ?
did u see medium the series
?
she can see the future
like she's say u sir will do this and this
u'll have mayonnaise on ur lettuce
well i can see that obama will be executed for high crime
what hi crime ?
obama done one thing worse than all else that's the nukes in the briefcase
he can blow up the world 1000 times
that's bad
the army does not let people play around with the briefcase
i'll ask u “have u seen the certificate ?”
now this post is pretty centered bec ur posts go all over the place
so let's calm down and answer the questions
take those meds which u said
have u seen the marks of the beast
i have to ask u because ur posts are just all over the place
i repeat the question and read my lips
(i have to go slow i don't think u're inteliigent enough to get anything i say)
aristotle the hun is a mensa member u're not obviously
do u SPEAK TIBETAN ? Tibetan Tantric Buddhism is the world's highest form of culture)
what was the question or u lost it way way back shorty ?
have YOU SEEN THE MARKS OF THE BEAST
is that easy enough for u ?
666 was drawn on election day in the Illinois lottery
go to my page here to see the video
http://www.youtube.com/user/TibetanIdol


geirsmith
Comment posted October 26, 2009 @ 11:37 pm

u speak tibetan ?


Majority Will
Comment posted October 29, 2009 @ 3:08 pm

“Obama’s birthplace.”

Of course, Obama was born in a village near Kisumu in rural western Kenya.

It's common knowledge that's where the President's father was born.


jamesdshoenfelt
Comment posted November 1, 2009 @ 6:23 pm

Obama's posted certificate is a certificate of live birth, not a birth certificate. Certificates of live birth are issued to any person requiring proof that they were born. It is not the original certificate. It would seem easy enough for the president to simply authorize the release of his original birth certificate. This would have saved him about 1.3 million dollars in legal fees.


euphgeek
Comment posted November 2, 2009 @ 5:07 pm

The state of Hawaii has confirmed that the COLB is their birth certificate and that Obama's is valid. They have also said that if Obama was born in another country, the COLB would say so. It would not say “Place of birth: Honolulu.” If you nirthers could accept that, it would have saved the taxpayers 1.3 million dollars in legal fees.


jamesdshoenfelt
Comment posted November 2, 2009 @ 7:48 pm

Wouldn't there be information which would be verifiable, such as doctor's name and hospital? If he was not born in Honolulu, how would those making this COLB know the place of birth?


jamesdshoenfelt
Comment posted November 2, 2009 @ 7:53 pm

BTW The money spent on legal fees were not tax payer funded. They were spent by him during his campaign.


euphgeek
Comment posted November 3, 2009 @ 1:34 pm

The state of Hawaii is not obligated to put that information on the COLB. But all information on the COLB is derived from the original document. If he was born in Kenya, the COLB would says “Place of birth: Kenya.” It would not say Honolulu.


euphgeek
Comment posted November 3, 2009 @ 6:19 pm

1) Nearly every candidate in recent history has had lawyers on retainer. In other words, Obama would have spent the money anyway. There would be no “saving” $1.3 million (or whatever number you nirthers have made up this week).

2) The lawsuits have continued since he was elected. The U.S. Attorneys have been defending Obama and the government on these frivolous cases and are paid by taxpayer money.


jamesdshoenfelt
Comment posted November 3, 2009 @ 7:21 pm

In other words, if I ask for a COLB I can tell the Honolulu authorities that I was born there, and they will believe me. Or do they actually have the original in their possession for verification??


jamesdshoenfelt
Comment posted November 3, 2009 @ 7:29 pm

OK, he spends taxpayer money. U.S. citizens are spending their own money to bring these lawsuits. Seems that the citizens feel pretty strongly about it.


euphgeek
Comment posted November 3, 2009 @ 7:59 pm

Hawaii has the original document signed by the doctor which is the basis for the COLB. When you ask for your birth certificate in Hawaii, they will give you the COLB which is what they consider to be a birth certificate. The original birth document is never released.


euphgeek
Comment posted November 3, 2009 @ 8:10 pm

The fringe kooks can feel as strongly about it as they want, but they're going to need some hard evidence to prove their claims. A “feeling” doesn't stand up in a court of law.


jamesdshoenfelt
Comment posted November 3, 2009 @ 9:01 pm

I believe a COLB is supplied when the original certificate is not available. A non-documented person who needed proof of birth would be issued a COLB. Regardless, you believe the original document exists, but has not been made available simply because that is the way they do things in Honolulu?


whitetiger
Comment posted November 3, 2009 @ 9:51 pm

The hypocritical reprobate currently infesting the White House was born in Kenya, unless his grandmother is a liar.

Why cannot someone with the necessary clout obtain copies of the great Imposter's personal records and publish them on, say, Fox News?

Rupert Murdoch, where are you, when we need you?


whitetiger
Comment posted November 3, 2009 @ 10:16 pm

The usual ignorance, vulgarity and verbal filth from the left notwithstanding, one wonders what sort of person votes to make a man the most powerful one in the world, when that man advocates the mass slaughter of tens of millions of innocent, unborn children, and promotes homosexual perversion, as well as governmental control of almost everything.

Such are precisely those to whom the franchise should not be extended.
If the current electorate was identifiable as Thomas Jefferson's cadre of “the virtuous and talented”, we would not find ourselves in our present, desperate condition. We must either find a legal and moral way to rid ourselves of this usurper, or bury the Republic, and submit to slavery under his New World Order.

Lets not suppose that the GOP is the solution. The track record there is only slightly less evil than with the Party of the Jackass. The solution, ultimately, lies in an informed, virtuous electorate. One which will not elect immoral persons to public office. One which understands, eg., that sex perverts and babykillers are immoral persons. And that those who favor Big Government are worng, wrong, wrong!

How can such an electorate be formed and delimited? What say y'all?


euphgeek
Comment posted November 3, 2009 @ 10:47 pm

A COLB is supplied any time someone requests their birth certificate from the state of Hawaii, no exceptions. The original is never made available. The Hawaii department of health has made statements verifying that they do have his original birth certificate and that the information on it matches that on the COLB.


euphgeek
Comment posted November 3, 2009 @ 11:09 pm

If his grandmother had said that Obama was born in Kenya, then she would indeed be a liar. But she said that he was born in America, in the state of Hawaii.


whitetiger
Comment posted November 4, 2009 @ 12:17 am

You are mistaken, EG, as:
1. She was so reported throughout the media.
2. She was taped, making the statement.
3. She was never in Hawaii, so could have no personal knowledge of it, even if he had been born there.
4. Attested, together with another of the Great Usurper's female relatives, that she was physically present at his birth in Kenya.
5. He has concealed all his personal records, showing on what passport he traveled from country to country, what he listed on school documents as to his citizenship, etc. etc., ad infinitum.

As Dr. Alan Keyes pointed out, Dumbama is a fraud, a communist, a traitor, who will destroy this country if not stopped. Yet, he has been able to enlist 63 million political-moral idiots to support his satanic schemes. Perhaps, as a nation, we deserve the certain destruction he will bring upon us.


Killer Kowalski
Comment posted November 4, 2009 @ 8:37 am

You poor pathetic brainwashed little dolt. Grandma may have been recorded. In fact she was. However, you little right wing illiterates deleted the last part of the tape in which she corrects the interviewer. She was present at her son's birth in Kenya (Obama's daddy) but makes it very clear that her grandson was born in Hawaii.

The Kenyan government confirmed that Obama's mama was NEVER in the country and that his daddy was not in Kenya in 1961. He was in Hawaii, in fact in Maui in February of that year getting married to Obama's mama.

Now that we have cleared up your obvious misunderstanding of his grandma's actual words, let's clear up the personal records BS yu are spreading.

You accuse him of being a communist and complain that his school and travel documents are concealed. You're right that they are concealed — the word is classified, sweetie. Obama worked for the CIA as an agent, just like his mama did. She worked for the Ford Foundation and he worked for a CIA front organization called Business International Corporation (BIC). He traveled to various countries as a “financial researcher” for the CIA, a branch of the US govt. So, he was anything but a commie — he was a CIA agent. That is why those records are sealed.

You need to get on medication — quickly.


whitetiger
Comment posted November 4, 2009 @ 10:53 am

To: KK:
Ignorance, vulgarity, verbal filth; your entry epitomized them all, did it not? I should have included deception, the very substance of dumbamaism.
Your exercise in creative writing shows a clever turn of mind and a broad inventive capacity.Usually those who choose to promote mass murder and sex perversion are not nearly as capable of the invention of disinformation; denial being the principal defense of the intellectually challenged.

What evidence can you provide for your insane allegation that The Great Babykiller was a CIA agent? (Forgetting to take one's meds is not proof).

Did the Champion of Faggotry assure you that grandma's tape was criminally edited?

Has the Mighty Deceiver convinced you that he can magically provide health insurance for fifty million people with out spending any additional sums to do so?

And, that when he deducts 500 billion dollars from the Medicare budget, no senior will lose a single benefit?

Who is poor, pathetic, brainwashed, little and a dolt, but he who chooses to love and serve evil and take delight in the suffering it imposes upon its innocent victims? Do not such thus take the satanic course?

Is he not pathetic who can no longer distinguish between good and evil?

Is he not brainwashed who refuses to hear the truth?

Is he not poor who has squandered his personal integrity to embrace the whoremongering of Big Government?

Is he not little who rejects his adult responsibilities and seeks only to suck at the fleshly protuberances of his surrogate(political) mama-papa for his nurture?

Is he not a dolt who worships his oppressor and happily grovels at the feet of the one who postures as a megalomaniac “messiah”?

One recalls Stanley Kowalski, played by Marlon Brando, a character who was
self-employed tackling sandbags in his backyard and, when confused, crying out to his wife, for direction, “Stella! Stella!”, in deep distress.

Killer, please search for a talented and virtuous Stella; one who knows good from evil.


Killer Kowalski
Comment posted November 4, 2009 @ 11:36 am

Got to you, didn't I, little dufus. I've already done the research and gave you the information. Now it's up to your lazy cut and paste ass to confirm it. He was employed by Business International Corporation as a “financial researcher”. BIC was a CIA front organization. How did he get affiliated with the CIA? Through his mother who already worked for them through the Ford Foundation. Look that up. There is considerable proof of their affiliations and even Obama's resume includes his employment there.

Now, show me PROOF that he was not employed by the CIA but was IN FACT, a Communist.

As to grandma's tape, dolt, I have heard the entire tape, and the one edited by you right wing losers. Nice try, dolt.

As for my name, it's also the name of a famous wrestler. Only thing is, I am bigger at 6'7″ and 298.


Killer Kowalski
Comment posted November 4, 2009 @ 12:13 pm

Whitetiger EXPOSED. He is actually Teedjee who posts at, you'll love this…
Larry Sinclair's website. Is he not pathetic who can no longer distinguish between good and evil? You answered your own question, following a career criminal, felon and liar. Water seeks its own level.


whitetiger
Comment posted November 4, 2009 @ 1:21 pm

To: “Killer”:
False assertions prove nothing.
You have faied to produce any proof; only prattle.
Yes, you did “get to me”, and I sorrow that you are not of normal proportions and probably suffer many rejections because of your size. I am not rejecting you, but your wrong notions, your indulgence in which is selfdestructive.

Perhaps your impression that you are the victim of frequent rejection motivates you to assume your colonoscopic moral-political perspective.

Its “given”; not “gave”.

I have been tolerant of your insults as your intellectual limitations are evident, but
no more. Any more name-calling will automatically terminate our discussion.

He who asserts must prove. I challenge you; produce your evidence!

You have not seen dumbama's resume, as he has concealed his personal history.

Show us, please, his original birth certificate, his various passports, school records, employment records, student aid data, etc.

As for your silly demand for proof that he “was never a CIA agent”; any beginning student of logic knows that a universal negative is impossible of proof.
Eg., you prove, please, that there is no such thing as , say, a three toed gazoopovich. Someone may prove its existence by producing one; but no one can prove that there couldn't be one, someplace.

His communism: He has taken control of the banking, mortgage, automobile and insurance industries, and is trying to take control of the entire health care industry.He prescribes the salaries of CEOs. His stated agenda is for big Government to control everything. He attacks any criticism of him or his by the media. His closest friends and advisors are marxists. His grandfather and mom were commies. He hangs with convicted traitors and, with his wife, burns American flags.Jeremiah Wright was his 20 year mentor.He, as Dr. Alan Keyes said, is a communist, and out to destroy our Republic.


jamesdshoenfelt
Comment posted November 4, 2009 @ 7:06 pm

It would seem that in a situation involving over $3 million in lawsuits regarding the legitimacy of the presidency of the free world, an exception could be made to simply make a copy of the birth certificate!? Then if it were valid, those “fringe kooks ” would be seen by the whole world as idiots.


whitetiger
Comment posted November 4, 2009 @ 10:22 pm

To: Killer Kowalski and TWIMC:
KK lies again. I am not Teegee, or anyone but White Tiger; never have been, never will be.

KK is a pathological liar. Almost all his statements are lies. I will not waste any more time responding to his verbal feces.

He is not man enough to admit his fabrications, but continues to crank out lie after lie to attempt to coverup his previous deceptions.

Produce your evidence, liar, or stand exposed for what you are: a fake, a scam, a Bunco Kowalski; a lover of child murder and faggotry.


GunnyRed
Comment posted November 5, 2009 @ 2:26 am

Depending on what his long copy vault birth certificate states, this may or may not deepen the problem. If it states either of the two hospitals and the hospital records prove that he was in fact born in one of the Hawaiian Hospitals, then the location of his birth will definitely prove he is entitled to be a US Citizen in accordance to the 14th Amendment. This of course does not necessarily give him the necessary status of a natural born citizen.


euphgeek
Comment posted November 5, 2009 @ 2:15 pm

For one thing, the fringe kooks are already seen by the whole world as idiots. For another, he has already shown a valid copy of the state certified birth certificate. That's what the COLB is. And finally, are you really naive enough to believe that releasing a copy of the original certificate would shut anyone up? He released his birth certificate in June of 2008 in response to people who were saying “Just show us the birth certificate and this will all go away.” Instead of going away, the conspiracy theories only got more intense. Why do you think Obama owes anyone any more proof than he's already given?


euphgeek
Comment posted November 5, 2009 @ 2:21 pm

1. And the media has never made a mistake before?
2. She was also taped correcting herself, saying that Obama was born in America.
3. She knows he was not born in Kenya and the state of Hawaii has released his birth certificate saying he was born in Honolulu.
4. That's a lie.
5. No reason to show any of that information. Why do you demand more documentation from this president than from any previous president?


whitetiger
Comment posted November 5, 2009 @ 4:21 pm

To: EG:
Tell us, please, who taped grandma, when and where, allegedly recanting her original testimony that dumbama was born in Kenya.

Then, lets see who the liar is.

The Hawaiian scam certificate is not the original .Lets see it.

All previous candidates have been thoroughly vetted; McCain, eg.

My hero, Dr. Alan Keyes , was thoroughly checked out.

Manu of dumbama's nominees bailed out when vetting revealed their criminal conduct.

Gunny Red has it exactly right.

Innocents do not conceal the truth. Con men always do.


jamesdshoenfelt
Comment posted November 5, 2009 @ 10:27 pm

Yes, releasing the original would quell the skeptics, since the original certificate would have the name of the hospital and the doctor…information that can be verified. Again, no big deal, and would have eliminated spending over a million dollars to learn what could  easily be made available.
You and I both know, it will never go to court since no judge wants to preside over a constitutional crisis. No matter what the verdict, our country would be torn apart.
Better to wait for the election in less than two years.


euphgeek
Comment posted November 5, 2009 @ 10:30 pm

It's on the very same tape where she supposedly said she was present at his birth, dufus. So I guess the liar is you.

And of course the COLB is not the original, but it's the certified copy from the state of Hawaii. If you have a problem with that, take it up with them.

And con men are people who present false evidence and lie about facts and real evidence. People like you.


euphgeek
Comment posted November 5, 2009 @ 10:52 pm

Releasing the original would do no such thing and you're either naive or dishonest to suggest it would. Nirthers can continue to bring lawsuits to get smacked down but they're the ones who are wasting taxpayer dollars.
And the election is in three years, not two.


whitetiger
Comment posted November 5, 2009 @ 11:12 pm

To:EG:
Your reply was not responsive to my question. Who taped grandma, when and where, and how may that one be contacted?
If you were charged with a criminal offense and a tape implicating you was to be used against you in court, would not your attorney(and you) want to know all the who, what.when, where, why and hows of that tape and the persons connected to it? Why then would you blithely assume that the tenth hand assertions you read/heard are consistent with the facts? Because thats the way you want it to be, regardless of the facts?(Thats a question; not an accusation).

We are not talking about a “copy” of the original certificate. The hawaiian certificate by the state is not the original birth certificate and does not disclose all the information on the original certificate. Why does one suppose dumbama has reason to conceal that information? Illegal aliens cannot legally work in the US. They must produce proof of their legal residence. He has not done so.

If he has nothing to hide, why not make a clean breast on the issue and dispell
the allegedly false allegation that he does not qualify as a natural born American? And why are those who concurr in his demonic agenda so anxious to justify his deceit and evasion? It is his assertion, and that of his supporters that he is, in fact, eligible to be president. Let him prove it.

Finally, ignoring questions which expose the fallacies of your arguments is not an intellectually honest approach to discussion. It parallels flat denial, the preferred technique of the intellectually challenged. Ignorant people act stupidly when they fail to obtain all the available evidence before coming to a conclusion.
Your guy has hidden all the evidence, effectively preventing y'all from affirming, evidentially, his contentions.

Since he lies almost constantly, none of us have much reason to believe him at all.


jamesdshoenfelt
Comment posted November 5, 2009 @ 11:33 pm

I didn't think I was naive or dishonest. I guess we have come to the point where you say,”yes you are.” Then I say, “No, I'm not.”  I guess, all I can say, is that if I were a person who wanted proof that the president was born in America and a copy of the original birth certificate was produced, I would be satisfied.
Sorry, my mistake. Yes, one year to mid-terms and three more years to presidential election. Must have been wishful thinking on my part.


euphgeek
Comment posted November 6, 2009 @ 12:10 am

It may satisfy you, but it won't satisfy everyone. The president has already produced proof that he was born in Hawaii and there are still people who aren't convinced.

You might want to ask yourself one thing, though: Why are you requiring more proof of this president than of any other president?


euphgeek
Comment posted November 6, 2009 @ 12:28 am

It's the very same tape done by Ron McRae you claim to have heard her say that Obama was born in Kenya. If you're not willing to listen to the whole thing, then I can't help you. Sorry, but Obama was born in Hawaii. That's just a fact.

The Hawaiian COLB is a true certified version of Obama's birth certificate. The fact that it doesn't have the name of the hospital or the doctor means absolutely nothing. He has already proved he is eligible to be the president and he is currently serving as president. The only thing anyone can do about it at this point is to vote for someone else in the 2012 election if you don't like it.

If you don't like the evidence provided, that's your tough luck. No other evidence will ever be forthcoming. And most likely he'll be re-elected in 2012. Too bad for you nirther conspiracy theory nuts.


whitetiger
Comment posted November 6, 2009 @ 9:42 am

To: EG and TWIMC:
Your answers are still not nearly responsive to my questions. Let me try one last time. I will write as simply as possible, and you may take notes if you wish.

In re the tape you heard/read about:
How do you know the identity of the Questioner?
How do you know it was really Grandma? And Auntie?
Are they, any or all, available for cross examination?
May we examine the tape for modifications to it?
When, where, how, was the tape made?
Where is it now? Why is it there?
How do you know it is “the very same tape”?
You see, you cannot establish your case. You choose to believe what you cannot prove bexause you love the same evils over which your demonic hero salivates.

You answer none of the questions asked, only insisting, in spite of your ignorance in the matter, that the facts are as you state them; the lack of evidentiary proof notwithstanding. That is not logical argument. That is “Joesixpackism”, to borrow an appellation from another of your heroes.

It does not matter that the HI certificate cannot be corroborated because it excludes the needed corroborating information? Oh, my!
“We don't need no witnesses, boys, he has a hoss an' a lasso, so he must be a rustler. Lets string him up!” That sort of subhuman grunting would not be at all acceptable to you if your liberty or life was at stake, would it?

You know you lie when you say, “He has already proved he is eligible to be the president…”. No, he has not. He has hidden all his personal records, spent big bucks and still refuses to prove his eligibility.

The Liar-in-Chief could produce those many, many documents proving his eligibility if he had such. Why does he not do so? Because they would expose his perjuries and ineligibility and send him back to the Chicago cesspool which spawned him.That would seriously delimit his capacity for killing babies and promoting homosexual perversion and governmental control of each citizen's every waking moment.

You may wish that nothing can be done about dumbama's usurpation of the presidency. But ways both legal and moral are available and many are pushing forward with them. Ultimately, he will go down in history as the grandest fraud of all time, and those who supported him as the biggest fools of all time.

You can't know that “No other evidence will ever be forthcoming”, unless you claim prophetic powers, can you? You see, that sort of unreason, that silly
slobbering substituted for rationality, betrays an imbecilic self-image; a personality labelled,” King Baby,” which describes an individual who refuses to grow up and asume adult responsibilities. One who, at whatever age, (42?) lies in his bed and cries for his mama (or government) to feed and cuddle him and change his diapers. Such will never be a man, who stands on his own; but a helpless baby, squalling his infantile demands; dependent on a “ma” who delights in killing babies in the cruellest manner possible. Thats it. Bye, EG.


Dr. Maloney
Comment posted November 6, 2009 @ 9:47 am

To Whitepussy, the Larry Sinclair follower: I found a link to the whole conversation on the excellent What’s Your Evidence? web site, a site that examines the Berg v. Obama et al., lawsuit in extreme detail. When one listens to the complete recording it becomes unavoidably clear that Obama’s step grandmother says that her grandson was born in Hawaii, in America. McRae even apologises for misunderstanding her at first. I let the reader draw their own conclusions from the recording itself (you might start around minute 5, or listen to the whole thing).

Here’s a partial transcript:

MCRAE: When I come in December. I would like to come by the place, the hospital, where he was born. Could you tell me where he was born? Was he born in Mombasa?

OGOMBE: No, Obama was not born in Mombasa. He was born in America.

MCRAE: Whereabouts was he born? I thought he was born in Kenya.

OGOMBE: No, he was born in America, not in Mombasa.

MCRAE: Do you know where he was born? I thought he was born in Kenya. I was going to go by and see where he was born.

OGOMBE: Hawaii. Hawaii. Sir, she says he was born in Hawaii. In the state of Hawaii, where his father was also learning, there. The state of Hawaii.


euphgeek
Comment posted November 6, 2009 @ 12:13 pm

I could ask you the same question. Why do you so readily believe the tape that supposedly has Obama's grandmother admitting he was born in Kenya when you haven't listened to the whole thing? How do you know it was Obama's grandmother on the tape? All you do is believe everything negative about Obama without question and you question all the hard evidence. That makes you dishonest and an extreme hypocrite.

All the evidence available says that Obama was born in Hawaii. There is absolutely zero evidence he was born anywhere else. If you think he was born outside the U.S. it is up to you to produce that evidence. Whether you think Obama is a liar or not, the state of Hawaii whose Republican governor stumped for John McCain would have had to have been in on the conspiracy. It was her department of health that confirmed Obama was born in Hawaii. And if you refuse to believe the state of Hawaii, then no other documents will ever convince you of that.

And by the way, you can't know that Obama “will go down in history as the grandest fraud of all time” unless you claim prophetic powers either, can you? I made my “prophetic” statement based on the law and the Constitution. Yours was made on wishful thinking.


whitetiger
Comment posted November 6, 2009 @ 12:50 pm

To: Dr. Baloney:
Ah! The lefties are out in full farce.(No, thats not a typo).
You lie when you falsely accuse me of being a “Larry Sinclair follower”; whatever that may be.
You, too, choose to ignore your hero's inability to prove his eligibility.
You, too, ignore all pertinent questions.
You, too, perceptions apparently limited to various shades of pink only, are satisfied with a generic reference to a far left source, committed to murder and perversion, as unassailable “evidence” that your man, who refuses to provide his evidence, has, in fact, provided his evidence.

Sane, literate folks will not buy into that sort of mental masturbation.
Your Hitler-Goebbels technique, “Tell a giant lie loud enough and often enough and all the dimwits will come to believe it”, is true; but it only has application to dimwits.

I will ask you, “What proofs have you that the tape is genuine and unaltered?”
For details, please see my questions to EG and KK.
How can you be sure that a dumbamaite did not add some false information to the tape before publishing it?
Who, with what affiliation ,
“revealed” the “new ending” to the tape, and why?
And, what of Auntie's statement?

Brushing aside unanswered questions is not the road to truth; but is self-deception.

But the overriding puzzle is, “Why would anyone want to ally himself with a demonic personality?


euphgeek
Comment posted November 6, 2009 @ 1:50 pm

Ah, you automatically assume that anyone who doesn't believe your nirther conspiracy is a “lefty.” You are the one who is ignoring all evidence and facts. You are the one who believes a recording of someone who may or may not be Obama's grandmother but nevertheless says he was born in Hawaii (of course you ignore that part). You ask for evidence but have provided exactly none of your own. You accuse us of “mental masturbation” and “Hitler-Goebbels techniques” but are really describing your own arguments. You ask me questions but cannot answer the ones I pose to you.

Unlike you, I have examined the evidence on both sides. I have researched the claims of the nirthers and found them to be without merit. I have come to the conclusion that the willfully ignorant and those with ODS (Obama Derangement Syndrome) are the only ones who actually believe the nirther nonsense. They make conservatives look just as bad as the 9/11 truthers did for the left.


jamesdshoenfelt
Comment posted November 6, 2009 @ 2:26 pm

Few, if any, other presidents have needed to be questioned regarding  birth status. Oh, yes, John McCain was born in the Canal Zone and simply produced his birth certificate, not a COLB.
This president is not being asked for more proof, just the same proof any president woud be asked to give.


euphgeek
Comment posted November 6, 2009 @ 5:29 pm

(Responding here, since the other responses are squeezing off the page)

The simple fact remains that Obama produced a certified copy of his birth certificate provided to him by the state of Hawaii. No other document is necessary to prove that he was born in that state. The Republican governor who stumped for McCain even said it was on the up and up. Obama has provided more proof than any other president in the entire history of the nation that he was born in the U.S. and still the nirthers don't believe it. If you refuse to accept a certification from Hawaii as proof, there is nothing else that will convince you. That is why there is no point in Obama releasing anything else.


RedGraham
Comment posted November 7, 2009 @ 2:56 am

Dear Congressman _________,
Barack Obama has still not proven conclusively that he was born in Hawaii. His biological father was a Kenyan-Brit. His mother was not a legal adult and did not meet the age&residency requirement in the new state of Hawaii to confer “natural-born” status on Barack Jr. There have also been credible reports the man some people refer to as president was actually born in Kenya.
Two Birth Certificates have been acquired by attorney Dr. Orly Taitz stating Obama was born in Kenya. At least two African newspapers and an Illinois journal at one time, when Obama was running for U.S. Senate reported he was “Kenyan-born”. In fact his own Grandmother Obama once claimed she was present at his birth in Kenya.
As a boy from age five to ten years Obama lived in Indonesia as the son of Lolo Soetoro his mother's second husband. Mr. Soetoro allegedly adopted young Barack so he could enroll in school as an Indonesian citizen. Obama/Soetoro went to visit his grandparents, the Dunhams, in Hawaii at ten years old and remained there until adulthood.
You have probably heard how Obama has paid well-over a million dollars to lawyers to keep all his school, college and passport records sealed. Indeed the first day in office Obama made a Presidential Proclaimation his records are off-limits to the public. This should have been what's called a “red-flag”.
And still nobody has seen the original Hawaiian Birth Certificate. A few suspect computer images of “Certifications of Live Birth” have been posted on the Internet. Hawaii has a notorious reputation for providing birth documents to foreigners even before statehood including to the first emperor of China. Obama's belated draft registration is reported to be counterfiet as well. Doctor Taitz claimed in court that Obama has used thirty different Social Security Numbers, that's right I said “thirty”. Another red-flag.
The Democratic Party, chaired by Howard Dean, allowed Obama's name on the ballot without verifying his natural-born citizen status which is required by our Constitution. When Nancy Pelosi signed and sent the elector certifications to place Obama on the presidential ballot in 2009 she only nervously signed the one for Hawaii(coincidence?). None of the other forty-nine documents had an original signature and left out the part about the candidate being “costitutionally qualified”.
Former ambassador and presidential candidate Alan Keyes has been at the forefront of the so-called “birther movement”. He and all birthers are met with derision and ignored by the mainstream liberal media. What little exposure we birthers get is ridiculed as crazy, racist and stupid. We just want to know the truth. Singer Pat Boone, actor Chuck Norris, andf author Jerome Corsi have all publicly questioned Obama's legal status to be president.
I hereby accuse Barack H. Obama of being an illegal-alien and usurper ineligible to even run for President of the United States. Further, as a natural-born citizen and combat-veteran I do hereby demand Obama release the documents in question or resign immediately. If he does not comply with this demand I expect his impeachment and removal by congress. Thank you.


euphgeek
Comment posted November 7, 2009 @ 7:06 am

Dear Insane Constituent,
I'm sorry you can't accept the fact that the state of Hawaii has certified that President Obama was born in Honolulu. No fake certificate purporting to be from Kenya or any other country can cancel out the certificate from Hawaii. Especially if it's presented by known nut-job attorney Orly Taitz who is likely on the verge of being disbarred for wasting the courts time with frivolous cases and her questionable conduct in court.
As you may or may not be aware, a five to ten year old child cannot legally give up their U.S. citizenship, nor can a parent, step or otherwise, give it up for them.
If you're accusing a state of the United States of faulty record-keeping, you'd better have iron-clad evidence that can be brought to a court of law. Likewise if you're going to accuse our president of having “thirty different Social Security Numbers.”
The reason that birthers get portrayed in the media as crazy, racist and stupid is because that's how you appear to normal people. Normal people accept the certification from Hawaii and don't think that fake certificates from other countries supersede our own laws. The fact that you may have fooled a few high-profile celebrities means absolutely nothing.
In conclusion, you can accuse and demand anything you want, but for the United States Congress the case is closed. We have seen more than enough proof that President Obama was born in Honolulu and absolutely zero evidence he was born anywhere else. Your demands and expectations in this matter will therefore go ignored. If you continue to write about this issue, your letters will be used in the Congressional men's room when they are low on toilet paper. Thank you.


youmustbejoking
Comment posted November 8, 2009 @ 10:27 pm

What you don't seem to understand is that the State of Hawaii, along with the other states, have changed the birth certificate that you get. While you used to get a certificate with more information, state and federal laws changed and they had to change what information is put on a certificate. The supposed “long form” birth certificate is no longer available when you request a copy of your certificate. I misplaced mine, and when I requested a copy I received one very much like the photos of the Certificate of Live Birth of President Obama's that factcheck.org has. It no longer carries the same info. My grandchild was born in 2005 and has a certificate like the replacement one I received. Hers and mine are different states from the presidents but they are very similar. The fact is, Hawaii would not have put the birth place on the certificate if the original didn't say Honolulu, Hawaii. The president isn't hiding his certificate, that is what Hawaii gave him. It isn't available to him. As the state officials have said, there is no long form certificate. What you see is what you get. You have to understand that it wouldn't say what it says if it wasn't true. Hawaii isn't going to produce false documents. We know the president has an American passport because his US passport files were opened in violation of the law, just as Hilary Clinton and John McCain's were. If he didn't have a passport, there would have been no file to violate. It is quite simple. As much as some of you don't like the fact that he is the president, he is and he is eligible to be.

The other thing that is being claimed is “how much money the president has spend hiding his papers.” I have seen no proof he has spent any. The so-called claim is based on the Democratic National Committee expenditures listing payments going to a law firm. No where does it say these payments are for work performed on behalf of the president. There is evidence of only one letter being sent to one attorney on the president and vice president's behalf. I am sure the Democratic National Committee has other things a law firm may do for them. With all the lawsuits filed, the only attorneys that have been present have been military and government attorneys and the plaintiffs attorney's. No evidence of anything else. You all need to give it up.


euphgeek
Comment posted November 9, 2009 @ 1:45 am

Dear Insane Constituent,
I'm sorry you can't accept the fact that the state of Hawaii has certified that President Obama was born in Honolulu. No fake certificate purporting to be from Kenya or any other country can cancel out the certificate from Hawaii. Especially if it's presented by known nut-job attorney Orly Taitz who is likely on the verge of being disbarred for wasting the courts time with frivolous cases and her questionable conduct in court.
As you may or may not be aware, a five to ten year old child cannot legally give up their U.S. citizenship, nor can a parent, step or otherwise, give it up for them.
If you're accusing a state of the United States of faulty record-keeping, you'd better have iron-clad evidence that can be brought to a court of law. Likewise if you're going to accuse our president of having “thirty different Social Security Numbers.”
The reason that birthers get portrayed in the media as crazy, racist and stupid is because that's how you appear to normal people. Normal people accept the certification from Hawaii and don't think that fake certificates from other countries supersede our own laws. The fact that you may have fooled a few high-profile celebrities means absolutely nothing.
In conclusion, you can accuse and demand anything you want, but for the United States Congress the case is closed. We have seen more than enough proof that President Obama was born in Honolulu and absolutely zero evidence he was born anywhere else. Your demands and expectations in this matter will therefore go ignored. If you continue to write about this issue, your letters will be used in the Congressional men's room when they are low on toilet paper. Thank you.


RedGraham
Comment posted November 13, 2009 @ 2:31 pm

Please see http://www.theobamafile.com


euphgeek
Comment posted November 13, 2009 @ 8:43 pm

Please see http://www.obamaconspiracy.org


RedGraham
Comment posted November 14, 2009 @ 2:37 am

Now is the time to fly our flags upside-down until The Great Usurper-Obama releases his Birth Certificate and college records and comes clean about his citizenship. Barack Obama is clearly an illegal-alien & had no business even running for U.S. President.


euphgeek
Comment posted November 15, 2009 @ 12:21 am

Except he was born in Honolulu, Hawaii and is therefore eligible to be president.

Proof:
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in…
http://hawaii.gov/health/about/pr/2009/09-063.pdf
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article…
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article…
http://snopes.com/politics/obama/citizen.asp
http://snopes.com/politics/obama/birthcertifica…

Now where's the proof of your allegations against the President of the United States? Remember, speculation and wishful thinking don't count as proof.


republicanstupidity
Comment posted November 18, 2009 @ 9:37 pm

WHAT A DUMB PIECE OF SHIT YOU ARE….STUPID ASS LIKE YOU MAKE ME SICK.


Crazy Birther Alert
Comment posted November 19, 2009 @ 2:33 pm

Repeating a birther lie ad nauseam does not make it magically come true.

MCRAE: Could I ask her about his actual birthplace? I would like to see his birthplace when I come to Kenya in December. Was she present when he was born in Kenya?

TRANSLATOR: Yes. She says, yes, she was, she was present when Obama was born.

MCRAE: When I come in December. I would like to come by the place, the hospital, where he was born. Could you tell me where he was born? Was he born in Mombasa?

TRANSLATOR: No, Obama was not born in Mombasa. He was born in America.

MCRAE: Whereabouts was he born? I thought he was born in Kenya.

TRANSLATOR: No, he was born in America, not in Mombasa.

MCRAE: Do you know where he was born? I thought he was born in Kenya. I was going to go by and see where he was born.

TRANSLATOR: Hawaii. Hawaii. Sir, she says he was born in Hawaii. In the state of Hawaii, where his father was also learning, there. The state of Hawaii.

Birthers are traitorous, bigoted frauds.


Anonymous
Comment posted November 19, 2009 @ 9:13 pm

First, please establish that your “McRae” tape is the sole tape of conversation with grandma, and that you possess an unaltered copy.
Second, how can a sane, literate, person state that all those who are aware that Dumbama has not produced his original birth certificate or any of his school, employment, travel documents, etc,(ad nauseum), are, thereby, frauds, traitors and bigoted? Awareness of a fact constitutes deception, racism and treason?

The likely fraud is he who alleges, claims to possess proof, but refuses to produce the proof. The traitor is identified as an advocate of surrender of US sovereignty to global government, flagburning, destruction of the economy via hyper-inflation, apologies for rogue nations which threaten our security and failure to confront and restrain them, promulgation of rules of engagement which turn our soldiers into sitting ducks, schmoozing those who identify themselves as our enemies, etc, (ad nauseum). Bigots criticize a man because of his race, eg, and this “bigot” has five times voted for Dr. Alan Keyes for president. This “bigot” has an oriental wife and an adopted son who is both oriental and hispanic.
Finally, some of us are unalterably opposed to Dumbama because he loves to kill millions of babies, lies constantly, condones homosexual perversions, wants government to control every breath we take, is in love with every known form of evil, is rapidly destroying our economy, and is anxious to surrender our sovereignty.
Your statements are disinformative, illogical, malicious and silly. Bye!


Dr. Maloney
Comment posted November 19, 2009 @ 5:26 pm

Red,

Masturbate in private.


Crazy Birther Alert
Comment posted November 19, 2009 @ 7:33 pm

Repeating a birther lie ad nauseam does not make it magically come true.

MCRAE: Could I ask her about his actual birthplace? I would like to see his birthplace when I come to Kenya in December. Was she present when he was born in Kenya?

TRANSLATOR: Yes. She says, yes, she was, she was present when Obama was born.

MCRAE: When I come in December. I would like to come by the place, the hospital, where he was born. Could you tell me where he was born? Was he born in Mombasa?

TRANSLATOR: No, Obama was not born in Mombasa. He was born in America.

MCRAE: Whereabouts was he born? I thought he was born in Kenya.

TRANSLATOR: No, he was born in America, not in Mombasa.

MCRAE: Do you know where he was born? I thought he was born in Kenya. I was going to go by and see where he was born.

TRANSLATOR: Hawaii. Hawaii. Sir, she says he was born in Hawaii. In the state of Hawaii, where his father was also learning, there. The state of Hawaii.

Birthers are traitorous, bigoted frauds.


Dr. Maloney
Comment posted November 19, 2009 @ 10:26 pm

Red,

Masturbate in private.


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