Conservative Base Stands Up to GOP in NY Race

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Asked what he’d do if he got to Congress, Doug Hoffman hesitates. He has a few ideas, such as revisiting the American Reinvestment and Recovery Act, putting the breaks on cap-and-trade legislation. But the idea of winning the Nov. 3 election and becoming the only non-Republican, non-Democrat in the House is a bit much. The national media would descend on him, right away. And that still takes Hoffman by surprise.

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“I’m not in this to get the splash and the notoriety,” said Hoffman, “I’m only in this, as an average American, standing up and saying it’s time we take our country back. But, certainly, if it does encourage other people to get up and do that, then so be it.”

In July, Hoffman bid to become the Republican Party’s nominee for a special election in New York’s 23rd Congressional District. The nominee would be chosen by party leaders in the district’s 11 counties; few people were surprised when they chose Deirdre “Dede” Scozzafava, a five-term assemblywoman who’d voted with Democrats on abortion and labor issues, factors that could help the party hold a historically conservative district that had voted for the Obama-Biden ticket last year. Hoffman, a 59-year-old accountant making his first run for office, forged ahead and grabbed the nomination of the venerable Conservative Party.

Since then, Hoffman’s campaign has become this election cycle’s great conservative crusade. On Sept. 5, the candidate was endorsed by 9-12 Candidates, an offshoot of Glenn Beck’s 9-12 Project, and a reflection of the support he was getting on conservative blogs. On Sept. 28, both Fred Thompson and the Club for Growth put their weight behind Hoffman, with the Club putting $250,000 into TV ads attacking Scozzafava and Democratic candidate Bill Owens. Those endorsements, coupled with reports that Scozzafava was struggling, brought the American Conservative Union and the anti-abortion rights group Susan B. Anthony List into the fray to back Hoffman. On Monday afternoon, FreedomWorks chairman Dick Armey announced that he’d campaign for Hoffman, putting the Tea Party movement’s seal of approval on the upstart campaign.

Two weeks out from the election, the battle in upstate New York is being portrayed in the press as a “civil war” between Republican factions. That might understate how much support for Hoffman, and how little for Scozzafava, there is in the conservative movement. As far as the roiling Republican base is concerned, support for Hoffman has become a test of whether a conservative leader can be trusted. Conservative media, from magazines to blogs, are using the low-stakes special election to test their ability to drive news cycles and raise money.

“This is not a tea party hangover,” said Marjorie Dannenfelser, the president of the Susan B. Anthony list. “It is every piece of the conservative base–the Club for Growth, social conservatives, right to work, pro-lifers, everyone–coming together.’

The timeline of Hoffman’s surge could become a guide for other conservative rebellions. On Sept. 14, The Weekly Standard ran a glowing profile of Hoffman by conservative journalist Kenneth Tomlinson (“he joined the Army reserves, got married, started a family, and went to work for Price Waterhouse”), that made the case for a “Buckley scenario” in NY-23. Tomlinson’s reference was the 1970 campaign in which the Conservative Party’s Jim Buckley, brother of the late National Review Editor-in-Chief William F. Buckley, blew past a liberal Republican and Democrat to win a Senate seat from New York with 38 percent of the vote.

Tomlinson’s scenario was less eccentric than it may have looked. Rob Ryan, Hoffman’s campaign manager, cut his teeth on Buckley’s unsuccessful 1976 re-election bid; he came on board after a conversation with John McLaughlin, a Republican pollster who was one of the first to rule Scozzafava out as a credible candidate.

The campaign set about working conservative blogs, conservative media and Tea Party groups who were plugged into both to drive home the message that Scozzafava was a liberal, backed by unions, who would say anything to anyone. The Republicans who’ve endorsed her, said Ryan, have “fallen for a scam.”

“I’ve long said that she’s the Bernie Madoff of New York Republican politics,” said Ryan.

“If you’re talking face-to-face to Assemblywoman Scozzafava,” said Hoffman, “she’ll tell you what you want to hear and it sounds great. And then she’ll talk to another group of people and tell them what they want to hear.”

Conservative media outlets pushed Scozzafava harder than the candidate could have expected. A reporter for Human Events got her campaign to say that Scozzafava opposed “card check,” labor reform that would make it easier for workers to start unions, while she’d said the opposite of that in a union questionnaire. The Weekly Standard asked the campaign whether Scozzafava would promise not to switch to the Democratic Party if she got to Congress; her noncommittal answer sparked the rumor that she might actually consider bolting the GOP. Conservative muckraker Michael Patrick Leahy conducted interviews for his TCOT Report web site that pieced together a “breach of trust” in the process that selected Scozzafava.

Stories like these motivated the conservative “netroots” to jump into the race for Hoffman. The key mover was Patrick Ruffini, a veteran of the 2004 Bush-Cheney campaign who had programmed fundraising drives that netted hundreds of thousands of dollars for Republican candidates in previous special elections. But on Oct. 17, Ruffini endorsed Hoffman, arguing that “the RNC and NRCC are doubling down on a flawed candidate with little chance of generating any significant momentum in the last 16 days.” Coming from a consultant who drove crucial funds to Jim Tedisco, the failed Republican candidate in the June NY-20 special election, this was an indictment of the GOP.

“What’s noteworthy about the comparison between NY-20 and NY-23 is that Jim Tedisco was not a textbook conservative either,” Ruffini told TWI. “In fact, his reluctance to oppose the stimulus early on was a factor in his defeat. Yet the conservative grassroots went all out for Tedisco because he agreed with us on most issues and was a good fit for a district we had a real chance of picking up. Scozzafava, on the other hand, appears to agree with us on nothing.”

None of the conservative activists that TWI spoke to were particularly worried about being seen as “spoilers” if Owens wins NY-23 for the Democrats. David Keating, the executive director of the Club for Growth, said that Scozzafava had no chance of winning anyway, and that nothing could be spoiled. The Susan B. Anthony List’s Dannenfelser suggested that a Scozzafava victory might be the worst possible outcome.

“We’ve seen this with Olympia Snowe,” said Dannenfelser. “We don’t need another Olympia Snowe. We will be dealing with her for the rest of our days.”

As the campaign draws to a close, Republicans who’ve endorsed Scozzafava have been scorched by Hoffman supporters. Conservative blogger and columnist Michelle Malkin, who used her syndicated column last week to label Scozzafava “An ACORN-Friendly, Big Labor-Backing, Tax-and-Spend Radical in GOP Clothing,” blasted the RNC and Newt Gingrich for endorsing the candidate. “If you have given to the NRCC, RNC, or Newt Gingrich under the impression that they are using the money to support conservatism,” wrote Malkin, “you might want to ask for your money back.” Later, Malkin posted an RNC mail survey defaced by a Hoffman supporter, and let Hoffman write a guest post on her site.

If the conservative base pulls off the NY-23 upset, it would get a congressman who backs every one of their key priorities. In an interview with TWI, conducted while he drove to speak at the opening of his fourth campaign office–one fewer than Owens, three more than Scozzafava–Hoffman sounded conservative notes on taxes, climate change legislation, the stimulus, abortion rights, and gay marriage.

“The jury’s out on what’s really going on and whether we have global warming or not,” said Hoffman, explaining why he’d oppose cap-and-trade legislation, “but we all want to protect our environment.” Unlike Scozzafava, he opposed and opposes the economic stimulus package and further bailouts, and said he’d use whatever clout he had in Congress to stop funds that hadn’t been appropriated yet, making an exception for “infrastructure” spending.

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Comment posted October 20, 2009 @ 10:53 am

Ha! They are just guaranteeing the Dem gets in by effectively splitting the Repub vote. Shades of Nader.

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Comment posted October 20, 2009 @ 1:09 pm

Hoffman isn't splitting anything. No conservative is going to vote for Scuzzyfava, and Hoffman will get every one of those votes. Let Scuzzy and the other Democrat split the liberal vote and Hoffman walks away with the seat. I sent some money to Hoffman, he is worth our support!

Comment posted October 20, 2009 @ 2:13 pm

Hoffman is a very weak public speaker, mealy mouthed.
His policy is equally weak, he'll be all over the place if he gets elected, as he has almost no experience and very little insight into the complex problems facing the nation.
He also really needs to bleach his dentures, they look like they're bade out of beech wood.

Comment posted October 20, 2009 @ 2:25 pm

The GOP is going to get exactly what it's asking for- Sarah Palin clones. And then they will realize in horror the error of their ways. Just like in 2008. And the cycle will repeat itself. Again. And Again. And Again. (Until the Republicans get someone who's willing to work with Democrats.)

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Comment posted October 20, 2009 @ 4:41 pm

If any Scozzafava supporters want to fight back, make sure that as many people as possible see this Dick Armey video.

Comment posted October 20, 2009 @ 5:26 pm

I'm not 100% sure you're right; I often wonder that what we are witnessing is a genuine nihilistic impulse among the far right which amounts to a sort of 'hail mary pass'—if they continue to undermine the GOP like this, the resultant unravelling could have ripple effects, they surmise, effecting a fractal realignment of the political configuration across the board. Possibly, they prefer their chances with that scenario to the steady hemorrhage which will undoutedly leave them completely marginalized in the forseeable future.

Comment posted October 20, 2009 @ 7:04 pm

That's silly. The democrats aren't going to be attracted to the republican candidate. Just because the fringe of the fringe labels her “liberal” doesn't change reality for those living in actual America … you need to get out of the Fox “News” bubble.

Anybody who might be torn between the democrat and Scuzzyfava will not be willing to take the risk on a Hoffman win … pushing more undecided voters to the democrats. It just isn't possible to turn a minority movement into a majority of voters.

Comment posted October 20, 2009 @ 7:29 pm

It's the Taliban. As described in Rohde's series in the New York Times describing his captors.

Comment posted October 20, 2009 @ 7:36 pm

More like Ross Perot. Nader was actively financially supported by the GOP. Perot did it “his own self.”

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Comment posted October 20, 2009 @ 8:05 pm

A Hoffman victory would set a nice tone for the 2010 elections in N.Y. and the rest of the nation.

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Comment posted October 21, 2009 @ 2:44 am

The gay marriage thing is a long-lost cause. Seriously. Carping on this one has been shown in poll after poll to be a huge loser with younger voters. Even conservatives under 40 overwhelmingly shy away from this fight. Drop it or we'll lose big.

Comment posted October 21, 2009 @ 3:01 am

Sure, Hoffman backs every single one of their priorities… which puts him out of the mainstream of the majority of America.

This is why the GOP is in trouble… the country is to the left even slightly of these bozos but they insist on having candidates that are to the right of them.

Comment posted October 21, 2009 @ 4:49 am

I caught Weigel (this article author) on the Maddow Show — and I wondered? How many times has he traveled to this district and actually spoke to people here (and, yes I am from the 23rd District – right in the middle – largest city – WATERTOWN)?

Doug Hoffman is a poor speaker, poor candidate who was turned down by the mainstream GOP and he got all stuffy and upset and sought the Conservative line (BTW: he does not even live in the district) … then adding insult to insult:

The DEM is NOT even a registered DEM — he's an INDY until after the election. Where's the angle on that slap to lifelong DEMS like me who ran in '94 and tried to compete this time, too, that is until Rahm Emanuel and big (really big) outside money rolled in and took over …

Owens is not a DEM and he doesn't even support a public health care option… in fact none of them do… they win, the people lose… I know and now you do, too. ~ Dan Francis

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Comment posted October 21, 2009 @ 5:17 pm

Gay marriage historically is a wedge issue for the right, along with abortion, etc. These issues are not meant to be resolved, they are meant to be dragged out every 4 years to fire up the 'wingers. I would agree that demographic developments are starting to undermine the effectiveness of these once reliable chestnuts.

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Comment posted October 23, 2009 @ 5:04 pm

Kent, I think you make a mistake by assuming that this district is even remotely a 50-50 district. Hoffman (or Scuzzafava) don't need to attract any D voters. Here are the last 4 election results in percentage for NY23. This does not look like a district with a significant amount of undecideds:

08: R 65-35
06: R 63-37
04: R 71-29
02: R 100-0 (unopposed)

So it look like the DEMs are topping out at 37-35% (and keep in mind these were 2 election cycles EXTREMELY favorable toward DEMs). So assuming this 37% stays DEM, all Hoffman has to do is pull 38% total (or about 60% of typical R voters for this district) to get a preponderence of the vote.

So the question is really can Hoffman take 60% of typical R voters? Anyone torn by a D or Scuzzafava are essentially irrellevant in this district.

Comment posted October 24, 2009 @ 7:48 pm

You think we could elect some Dems who will work with Republicans? It is a 2 way street. Dems had control too long and think everything should be done their way.

Comment posted October 25, 2009 @ 8:05 am

The microscopic party is becoming the atomic party. Pretty soon, we may not be able to see them at all. Unless they get their act together.

I personally don't want them to disappear, it's too much fun poking at their idiocy of late, but that doesn't mean they should dry up and blow away.

The idea that there are no Dems who want bipartisanship is another bit of Repub crap. The party of NO is just that. Ideas? Ask a Repub about them, and all you'll get is a sheepish look with a shrug of the shoulders, like it's up to someone else. Well, it is, now.

Now, if only the birthers, beckers, deathers, and all other sundry “Chicken Littles” would learn their place, back in the shadows, where they came from, and stay there. Rabble rousing had it's place, but it's a dead concept in this day and age. I guess no one told THEM.

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Comment posted October 27, 2009 @ 11:06 pm

Scozzafava is now actually splitting the Democrat vote. That's what happens when you go too far left. I don't personally think Newt was smart enough to make this happen this way, but hey.. I'll take it. Now moderate libs actually favor Dede… That's why Hoffman is now LEADING the race.

Comment posted October 29, 2009 @ 3:56 pm

Political points to ponder

What would happen if any other political party pushed for a cap and trade bill that could create green jobs of which 9 out of 10 created would be unsustainable, require government subsidizing and cost the nations economy millions of real jobs? And this is not to mention the increase in manufacturing costs that would be passed on to us in time of depression.

No matter if you are a Democrat, Republican, Libertarian or an Independent, what do you think is going to happen when the government revenues are down and spending is quadrupled? As one senator from Florida was categorized as, “One must be a fry short of a happy meal” to believe that wiping out the U.S. dollar and reducing the purchasing power of our salaries and retirement savings is a good thing.

How do you think the media or yourself would react if the republicans were the majority party and were negotiating behind closed doors on a republican senator’s proposal to overhaul one of our economy's largest industries, especially when it hasn't been written yet? On an almost straight party-line vote, Democrats in the Senate Finance Committee squashed an amendment by Senator Jim Bunning that would have required the Obama, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reed and the Baucus healthcare or “rob our children and their children bill” to be posted on the Internet for all Americans to read for 72 hours prior to the Committee voting on it.

There are Republicans who should be voted out of office as well. They are the ones who didn’t listen to the American people and under the veil of “negotiations,” kept the “rob our children and their children” bill scheme to socialize the nation's health care system alive. And those are not the only ones. Every politician who allowed the Federal Reserve to loan two trillion dollars without knowing to whom, for what or the disclosure of terms should be investigated, made accountable for their irresponsibility and thrown out of office as well. Sleeping on the job is no excuse.

The Federal Reserve has no real oversight and it’s time for these politicians to get the message loud and clear. We need to learn from our past mistakes and before voting, find out the candidate’s passed association’s, voting record, speeches made and most importantly, don’t let the progressives in the media or celebrities who receive bribes from the likes of George Soros brain wash you. The buss is speeding to go over a cliff and we need to get hold of the staring wheel and the brakes.


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