Comments on: Michael Steele Doesn’t Race-Bait, Except When He Does

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By: alchemytoday

alchemytoday — Wed, 21 Oct 2009 05:37:19 +0000

I'd think it more offensive to assume Steele descended from slaves because he's African American. As far as I know he was adopted and hasn't shared anything about his biological family if he knows anything about them (Wiki says his adopted parents descend from sharecroppers so he's entitled to take offense to this sort of thing).

As far as partisanship goes, I don't think Democrats, in general, benefit from doing anything to hurt Steele's reputation and make it more likely that he'll lose his job of running his party into the ground. Also, I thought Blunt's monkey joke a few weeks ago was tone deaf (and, worse, not funny) but didn't see the point in hanging him out to dry for it.

What if someone had praised Steele's slavish dedication to bringing integrity back to the GOP?

I agree that it was stupid for Hoyer to say something he had to apologize for; I just regret that we live in a world where he had to apologize for properly employing a word that's never conjured up images of American slavery.

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By: brendanm

brendanm — Wed, 21 Oct 2009 04:28:35 +0000

I'm sure he was. I don't like Rep. Hoyer and think he is a bad Democrat, largely due to his support of Bush policies like the invasion of Iraq, but I don't think he is racist or that he would use race-baiting. But labeling a descendant of slaves as “slavish” is offensive and dumb regardless of intent. Perception and providing openings to your opponents to accuse you of race-baiting are important factors to consider.

We're talking about Micheal Steele, for fuck's sake; it shouldn't be difficult to understand that speaking indelicately (or dumbly, or buffoonishly, or incomprehensibly, or absurdly dishonestly or hypocritically, or insanely, as the case often is) can be damaging to yourself and your cause. Of course, Steele's response was worse than the offense, but how about a little less partisanship and a little more intellectual honesty?

By: alchemytoday

alchemytoday — Wed, 21 Oct 2009 03:22:10 +0000

It's stupid only in that people listening to him are stupid. Slavish is an apropos adjective for Republican candidates who uncritically toe the party line or risk being labeled RINOs. Steele had spent the past decade chairing the county and state GOP before being Lieutenant Governor and was running a campaign stressing his nonexistent independence. Hoyer's pointing out his history of devotion to the party, not that he let the party exploited his race.

By: brendanm

brendanm — Wed, 21 Oct 2009 01:41:06 +0000

Considering his record, Hoyer probably didn't mean anything by it (as opposed to neo-Confederate, anti-Voting Rights Act Southern Republican congressmen calling Obama “uppity”), but it was still an incredibly stupid choice of words.

By: brendanm

brendanm — Wed, 21 Oct 2009 01:05:08 +0000

Let's see his birf certificate first!

By: CarltonVanNostrand

CarltonVanNostrand — Wed, 21 Oct 2009 00:16:35 +0000

Huh? How is it remotely relevant whether a news interviewer is an American citizen? Based on what principle of journalistic ethics must CNN or anyone else disclose his citizenship?

By: nibblybits

nibblybits — Tue, 20 Oct 2009 23:18:03 +0000

Be careful using the word “renege” too. (From Larry Wilmore, senior black correspondent of The Daily Show.)

By: nibblybits

nibblybits — Tue, 20 Oct 2009 23:14:04 +0000

Of course, he switched citizenship purely to get around the foreign ownership of media laws in the US. Don't believe his wife is a US citizen, nor his children by his first wife. Of course, context doesn't mean much to your ideology either.