Popular GOP.com Topic: Secession

Following the drubbing received at the hand of the increasingly far-left democratic party this year, after years of mind-numbing, brainwashing by the NEA and the liberal media elite; Republicans are scrambling to reshape their identity/image, with big ideas, inclusiveness, and an articulate leader. I have a simple, recommendation...Let's follow the example of the men who wrote and then pledged their life and sacred honor in defense of the Declaration of Independence. These same patriots later created the definitive tome on limited government.

It's way past time to quit buying into the idealist illusion that it matters which of our 2 ethically bancrupt and constitutionally illiterate parties has a solution to the problems facing the republic within the context of the existing monstrously morphed model of federal government. Legislatures and executives from both Republican and Democratic parties have given the American people large government, more debt, more regulations, more restrictions on individual liberty and more fear and uncertainty concerning what the United States of America has increasingly become, and what our country will look like in the future.
Even with a whole new crew in congress and oval office, we are still left with a federal behemoth bloated with countless intrusive, un-constitutional agencies, bureaus and departments, whose functionaries never run for elected office. This army of governmentalists amassing power like a black hole spending untold trillions of worthless, borrowed, fiat currency with interest, from a decidedly un-federal, manipulated Federal Reserve that has already declared that it is unanswerable to the American people and above the law. All this to further
regulating everything from pencil sharpeners to toilet paper. There is ZERO likelihood that this monster will ever be dismantled or even cut down to size, by it's own volition.

The only way to radically reduce the size and power of government over regular people, and thereby regain self-determination, and at the same time, to re-establish a social status quo typlified by common sense and reflecting the will of the people. I believe, is to start over. Why? Because it is easier to give birth than to raise the dead. How could this happen? Secession. Normally not counted among the establishment, since the federal government's militant responce to the last attempt had such a disasterous outcome. But the constitution no where gives to the Federal government the authority to prevent such a move, nor prohibits states from voluntarilly leaving the United States. Freedom to choose one's own government is the very essence of liberty. Our comparitively young country was born out of secession from Great Britain, siting causes of government abuse far less severe than we seem willing to tolerate today.

Texas, a state which possessed nation status prior to admittance into the U.S. would have the most obvious justification for declaring that maintaining the existing arrangement was no longer the best option for the people of Texas. With what would amount to one of the world's largest economies, No one but the most anti-libertarian could claim that Texas had no right and no ability to succeed once she again took her stand as the born-again Republic of Texas. Likely, Oklahoma, Louisiana, and Arkansas would ask to join Texas, as states within the new confederacy, followed by Missouri (sans St. Louis and Kansas City). Kentucky, Tennessee, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia and S. Carolina would follow suit, along with N. Florida, splitting away from it's growingly liberal brethren to the south. They would thus declare their ultimate
liberation from the Washington DC leviathan.

Rather than seeking the destruction of the sacro-sanct union and a charge of treason against the United States, this is merely Americans seeking what the patriots of the original 13 colonies sought. They did not seek to overthrow Great Britain, they merely sought a divorce from her.

Imagine, no privately-owned, european-based, globalist-serving central bank posing as FEDERAL, no government bailouts, no Internal Revenue Service to extort a tax on the labor of a person's own hand, no United Nations, no bloated, inefficient federal bureacracy, no collectivist world view forced on the populace by judges legislating from the bench. Nothing but the constitution and the Declaration of Independence from whence they came; and in pursuit of nothing more, and nothing less than "government by consent of the governed."
Unlike the confederacy of 1861, this new southern nation would possess enormous resources. Possibly Idaho, Montana, Wyoming, Utah, Arizona, and the Dakotas would follow suit.

There would be no war I think; for politicians and their globalist masters are cowards, prefering subtrafuge to head-on confrontation. To be sure, lawyers and courts would be up in arms, but at the very least, those whose charge is to represent the people will get the message. Meanwhile, those who are content to live off the federal tit while remaining under it's thumb, will flee in droves to what remains, while freedom loving Americans will move wholesale to the newly formed nation(s) that they will recognize as resembling the fabled country they read about in their history books. We can call it America 2.0


P.S. I love my country and my state, and took seriously my oath to "protect and defend the constitution of the United States from all enemies foreign and domestic. I am likewise, sadly persuaded that the greatest enemy facing the constitution, is the bureacracy, now bought and paid for by moneychangers who seek to coopt the patriotism of loyal, law-abiding citizens and wrap themselves in a flag soaked in the blood of true patriots, while they desecrate the constitution they also took an oath to defend.

DEO VINDICE

Bill Evans aka "Stonewall"

Afganistan also wanted you to underestimate them ........ha ha ha ha

Yeah preying mantis feeble........like the rest, youre entitled to your opinion and the rednecks dont bother you NOR call names...you people ARE bitter because we want to be happy and away from you and your kind.....so if you dont inderstand us....easy, just stay under the wing of your great system....dont you worry about the Rednecks we always survive.

Yeah preying mantis feeble

Umm, good one?

like the rest, youre entitled to your opinion and the rednecks dont bother you NOR call names

Oh, I've been bothered and called quite a few names by rednecks in my time.

you people ARE bitter because we want to be happy and away from you and your kind

My kind? You mean Americans? Enjoy your expatriation.

so if you dont inderstand us....easy, just stay under the wing of your great system

I will, thank you. Sorry you don't like this country or our Constitution.

dont you worry about the Rednecks we always survive.

Like cockroaches.

Anyone who is so patriotic to beleive in the way this country is ran now IS indeed of low mental wits. HELLO. We have always dreamed of the day we would have our own again , and if you dont like it....what's it hurt you? We dont understand....why are you so bitter?

Lamenting the power of the people (and their dislike for DC) is extremely elitist. That's what I see more and more - bureaucrats, politicians, talking-heads and their ilk blasting the people for seeing through the corruption and lies that form the basis of the US Federal Government today. Once outside of the power centers, it's quite obvious that almost everyone hates DC. It's not a partisan thing - it's a populist thing. We'd all be better off without that useless city directing our lives.

South Carolina would be a paradise, a Utopia, but for that accursed city! You know who else wants to get rid of Washington, D.C.? Osama bin Laden. I'm sure that's not the only thing you have in common with him.

LOL @ Brendanm! So, just because I hate the regulations, taxes, warmongering and all the rest from that cursed government cesspool, I must be a 'terrorist', huh? I must be similar to Osama bin Laden because I hate having my money stolen from me and my life legislated by people in suits who I wouldn't spit on if they were burning? Come on! DC is an abomination and the sooner we successfully get it out of our lives, the better. If you want their taxing, warmonger, regulating, etc then fine for you. But I do not, and millions of others don't want it either. It's wrong to force their tyranny upon we who hate DC and everything that goes with being ruled by it.

Yes. A mirror image. Possibly - nay! - probably a clone.

Amen!!!!

I fail to see a downside. The site owner may not like all the topics, but it gives them an idea of what their readers are thinking. This is a good thing.

Well, if liberal pundits were as intellectually dishonest as Bill O'Reilly, they'd use this as proof that the Republican Party wants to destroy the United States. When mentioned in conjunction with several prominent Republican officials who've mentioned secession, it isn't really all that intellectually dishonest. It just doesn't look good at all the GOP, having so many neo-Confederates on their site. Hopefully, the RNC will look at this as a sign that they need to start taking the increasingly extremist base of their party seriously and they'll begin to marginalize the fringe.

I'm not sure I comprehend your initial point, but as far as secession goes, one must always keep it on the table since the current administration appears to be bent on destroying our country. We need to have somewhere to go.

I'm sure there is a lot that you don't comprehend. The cognitive dissonance of wanting to destroy this country through civil war and secession while accusing the current administration wanting to destroy this country must be take up all your very limited mental capacity.

Who said anything about a civil war? Isn't peaceful secession an option?

Says someone who idolizes a racist traitor and fascistic dictator like Jefferson Davis.

Isn't peaceful secession an option?

Not a realistic one, though neither is civil war. The delusions and paranoid predictions of secessionists bear no resemblance to reality and will not come true, so they will never have the numbers (or the balls) for either. Never more than a bunch of redneck militia dipshits.

I'd be happy to give you some suggestions on where to go.