Alan Keyes: My Birther Lawsuit Will Proceed

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Wednesday, October 07, 2009 at 4:44 pm

The perennial presidential candidate blogs that his quest to overturn the results of the 2008 election — which he surely would have won had Barack Obama had to answer questions about his citizenship — will continue, his lawsuit having not been dismissed.

I just received a call from Orly Taitz, my attorney in the case seeking proof of Obama’s eligibility for the Office of President of the United States. Judge Carter has released a statement declaring that the dates he set for the hearing and trial on the eligibility issue are confirmed, and it will move forward as scheduled. Apparently he was not swayed by the Obama lawyer’s arguments.

Background on the trial right here. And here’s an explanation of what is actually happening–Taitz, of course, is lying, and a decision to dismiss could come at any time.

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chrisjay
Comment posted October 7, 2009 @ 8:53 pm

Yay! The circus is gonna stay in town for another week! I never seem to get enough of the Birfer freakshow, but don't judge me—we all have our dirty little vices…


darthtater
Comment posted October 7, 2009 @ 8:54 pm

A phone call from the queen of birfistan is not verification of the Judge's ruling…


Antibirther
Comment posted October 7, 2009 @ 9:05 pm

er not quite. The judge has yet to rule on the motion to dismiss.

Apparently Orly got her panties wet beacuse the court confirmed the previously set tentative schedule. She seems to think that this indicates that the court will rule in her favor, but I think it simply means that the court follow set procedures to establish schedules untill as long as a case is still open and since the ruling on the motion to dismiss has not come in, the case is still open.


Doug Mataconis
Comment posted October 7, 2009 @ 9:11 pm

Yea, I don't think so Alan:

http://belowthebeltway.com/2009/10/07/orly-tait…


Antibirther
Comment posted October 7, 2009 @ 9:15 pm

What's that say, I'm having trouble opening the site.


mantis
Comment posted October 7, 2009 @ 9:27 pm

Apparently he was not swayed by the Obama lawyer’s arguments.

Yes, Alan, this is apparent from the fact that he hasn't ruled on them yet. He also hasn't ruled on whether the sky is blue, so apparently he has not been swayed by the visible spectrum's arguments either.


strangely_enough
Comment posted October 7, 2009 @ 9:32 pm

Orly Taitz, my attorney

Some jokes just write themselves.


republicanstupidity
Comment posted October 7, 2009 @ 9:37 pm

Did'nt the Judge is Ga tell the lost Gabor sister that he would fine her?? Hit her dumbass for a 100, 000 for wasting the courts time and for being stupid. Does this moron have a green card?????


BigGuy
Comment posted October 7, 2009 @ 9:49 pm

It was $10,000, and the two weeks he gave her to talk him out of it expired last week. He hasn't issued a final ruling yet, but the fact that she accused him of being corrupted by Obama isn't going to help her. Should be any day now!


Jorge
Comment posted October 7, 2009 @ 9:54 pm

And Republicans wonder why we need to reform education in this country…


Notamailorderlawyer
Comment posted October 7, 2009 @ 10:05 pm

I dunno if Orly actually “lied” on this one, I truly believe she is so incompetent and so ignorant that she does not know how to read a case management order. On the other hand, maybe she and Lincoln (her disbarred convicted felon legal assistant) figured they needed to milk their idiot followers out of all the money they could get, and quick. The birfers are so excited they cannot push Orly's PayPal button quickly enough.


chrisjay
Comment posted October 7, 2009 @ 10:06 pm

OMG.
Orly Taitz
Alan Keyes
—More than the sum of its parts:
“Orly Taitz, my attorney…”
somewhere in the universe an angel has just had a brain aneurism


JohnC
Comment posted October 7, 2009 @ 10:20 pm

It's ironic that the same people who can't even understand the import of particular court proceedings are the ones arguing we've got it all wrong on the meaning of “natural born Citizen” in the Constitution.


Bob
Comment posted October 7, 2009 @ 10:40 pm

That's Birfistan in a nutshell.


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lkt
Comment posted October 7, 2009 @ 11:44 pm

I hope they all donate their next trailer payment to her! Bankrupt the fools!


Irish_Wake
Comment posted October 8, 2009 @ 12:37 am

Is this is the lawsuit Tracy was all worked up over?


tracyfair
Comment posted October 8, 2009 @ 1:59 am

Look buddy, I about had ENOUGH of you!

( | )

Kiss it!


tracyfair
Comment posted October 8, 2009 @ 2:00 am

Amen!


Tracy's From Oklahoma
Comment posted October 8, 2009 @ 2:29 am

Um, to help uneducated people like you.


Irish_Wake
Comment posted October 8, 2009 @ 2:30 am

Sorry, I had to ask because you neglected to share that information. If you did include these details, I missed 'em.

Your humble servant.


Notamailorderlawyer
Comment posted October 8, 2009 @ 2:37 am

I agree with you, for the most part. But I read somewhere that Orly was bragging some old guy in Arizona (not McCain, lol) sent her a $2,000 check. Bilking seniors out of their money is pretty reprehensible. Then again, so is calling for armed overthrow of the US government. Orly will wind up in jail before this is all said and done.


littybell
Comment posted October 8, 2009 @ 3:53 am

LOL!! I am wiping tears of laughter over here!!! Keep it comming!


littybell
Comment posted October 8, 2009 @ 3:57 am

LOL!!! Stop it!!! LOL For Gawd's sake you killing me here!!


RedGraham
Comment posted October 8, 2009 @ 6:30 am

During the election, then Senator Obama published a statement at his website which said that his birth status was “governed” by the British Nationality Act of 1948. How can a “natural born citizen” of the United States be governed – at birth – by British law? The issue is that Obama has admitted to dual Nationality. Obama is not a “natural born Citizen” by his own admission! Obama cannot legally be President of the United States and he knows this!


RedGraham
Comment posted October 8, 2009 @ 6:57 am

Why is it that former ambassador/twice-former presidential candidate/editorialist & former talkshow host Alan Keyes' courtcase in pursuit of discovery of the Obama's pertinent documents is not in the news? If it was some miniscule nonsense about Dan Quayle or W's Nat'l Guard service or Palin's daughter it would be frontpage. But here we are with a possibly fraudulent president & even the National Enquirer is muzzled.


darthtater
Comment posted October 8, 2009 @ 12:03 pm

I think she filed a motion to extend and probably didn't sign that one either…I think Judge Land should be ruling soon…as soon as he picks himself up from rolling on the floor laughing…


darthtater
Comment posted October 8, 2009 @ 12:04 pm

No kidding…still laughing at an angel having an aneurysm!


darthtater
Comment posted October 8, 2009 @ 12:09 pm

She has to work up her donor base…otherwise she's going to be doing some unnecessary root canal's to pay her pending 10k fine in the GA court she was bounced out of…

Even her arch nemisis co-counsel (Kreep) says this is not a ruling of any kind. At least he understands that this wasn't signed.


darthtater
Comment posted October 8, 2009 @ 12:15 pm

If it were real news it would be…sadly, birthers are not news, just entertainment.

The Birthers' have been bounced out of “every” courtroom because they are clueless about the constitution, constitutional law, federal law, statutory law, gravitational law, Murphy's law and life in general. You should be thanking the media for being kind enough not to further the embarrassment.


darthtater
Comment posted October 8, 2009 @ 12:16 pm

Birther Mythology is not evidence for a court proceeding…


darthtater
Comment posted October 8, 2009 @ 12:16 pm

ROFLMAO!


Antibirther
Comment posted October 8, 2009 @ 12:17 pm

“Why is it that former ambassador/twice-former presidential candidate/editorialist & former talkshow host Alan Keyes' courtcase in pursuit of discovery of the Obama's pertinent documents is not in the news?”

Because it is not news.

(other than for a handfull of people, like myself, who enjoy watching the antics of the insanely stupid)


Antibirther
Comment posted October 8, 2009 @ 12:21 pm

I beg to differ, She has had enough experience in the court system. It is deliberate on her part. She has been shown to be a pathological liar time and time again.

BTW, go to this site and do a person search for her cases

http://www.occourts.org/online-services/case-ac…


Majority Will
Comment posted October 8, 2009 @ 2:30 pm

“How can a “natural born citizen” of the United States be governed – at birth – by British law?”

You answered your own question. He can't. British laws don't apply to U.S. laws.

“Obama is not a “natural born Citizen” by his own admission!”

Patently false, easily disproved and ridiculously delusional.

“Obama cannot legally be President of the United States and he knows this!”

Only in your sad, warped, little mind.

Get someone to read this to you slowly. Repeatedly if necessary until you come out of your stupor.
http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/does_bara…


Majority Will
Comment posted October 8, 2009 @ 2:35 pm

Most birfoons are feverishly typing with one hand as they fantasize over Oily Taintz.


Majority Will
Comment posted October 8, 2009 @ 2:38 pm

“Orly will wind up in jail before this is all said and done.”

Probably. And unfortunately it will make her a martyr in the glazed over eyes of the idiot birfoons. Then again, she could probably escape capture by flapping those fake eyelashes fast enough to launch herself skyward like Dumbo did with his ears.


Irish_Wake
Comment posted October 8, 2009 @ 3:15 pm

At one time the United Kingdom was a worldwide empire. As that empire began to wane, the English enacted The British Nationality Act of 1948 (BNA).
The BNA granted the citizens of a former British colony, such as Kenya, the ability to petition for British citizenship. This applies to President Obama's father.
The children of such a citizen are granted the ability to petition for for British citizenship until their 21st birthday, regardless of place of birth. This applied to the young Barak Obama until he reached the age of 21.
Therefore, he was not 'governed – at birth – by British law'; British law allows people that fulfill certain ancestral requirements the ability to petition for British citizenship. The BNA was written by the English Parliament specifically addressing a large, worldwide population that broadly share President Obama's ancestral heritage.
I am unaware that the President 'has admitted to dual nationality.' I suggest this is this an extension of a failure to understanding of the BNA, since admitting dual nationality is at odds with releasing proof of natural born citizenship.
I have not been convinced by the birther's arguments. Lawyers say 'If the facts are on your side, pound on the facts. If the facts are against you, pound on the table.' I find their facts to be mainly emotional.
I am curious why this suit was not brought in Hawai'i, since that is the state that originated the questioned documents. Personally, I see this as a waste of the court's time, as U.S. District Court Judge Clay Land hinted in his dismissal statement. If this is necessary, are there any bets on how long the hearing will be drawn out?


Notamailorderlawyer
Comment posted October 8, 2009 @ 4:03 pm

Thanks. I've read about all there is to read about Orly. Which is why I included the other possibility: that she and disbarred Lincoln figured they would gin this up to make some money.


chrisjay
Comment posted October 8, 2009 @ 4:35 pm

BTW spaceyfair, we're still waiting for you to PROVE that your husband isn't in MY country illegally—–What are you hiding???????
WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


tracyfair
Comment posted October 8, 2009 @ 5:58 pm

Because Obama OWNS the news, didn't you know that.

Eventually, the MSM will have no choice. Someone is going to have to tell the sheep, that Obama is LEAVING the White House. LOLOL


chrisjay
Comment posted October 8, 2009 @ 6:01 pm

For once, spacy, you are right.
Obama IS leaving the Whitehouse, eventually.
In 7 and a half years, to be precise.


tracyfair
Comment posted October 8, 2009 @ 6:01 pm

Says who?


tracyfair
Comment posted October 8, 2009 @ 6:03 pm

LOLOL, he was born here idiot and once again, HE isn't the President and dosn't need to prove a damn thing!


tracyfair
Comment posted October 8, 2009 @ 6:05 pm

LOLOL, learn how to spell, DOH!


strangely_enough
Comment posted October 8, 2009 @ 6:13 pm

Ah, the touchstone of birther lunacy- he's a British citizen and therefore…
Love. That. One.


strangely_enough
Comment posted October 8, 2009 @ 6:16 pm

Godwin's law, too.


tracyfair
Comment posted October 8, 2009 @ 6:27 pm

In yur dreams, Girly Mon…


tracyfair
Comment posted October 8, 2009 @ 6:28 pm

Obama is an illegal alien


chrisjay
Comment posted October 8, 2009 @ 6:33 pm

You are very macho sounding. Or maybe you are large enough to squeeze me like a bug. Kinda like a female Rush Limbaugh, pig eyes n all…


JusTheFax
Comment posted October 8, 2009 @ 6:35 pm

What's wrong with all you people! The only reason it is not news, is the liberal media is protecting their man…oh, I am just shocked!!

I am an ordinary citizen and am sick, sick, sick of all the political maneuvering and obvious bias! Just stick to the Constitution please!. Hey OBAMA, JUST answer a few simple questions like, 1. Show us the beef (real birth certificate). 2. Why ya spendin $1M to keep your school records, medical records etc. out of public eye when all other presidents and candidates have provided complete disclosure? 3. Why did ya apply for foreign student aid if you were a citizen? 4. How come you promise transparency in government as the refreshing CHANGE and yet with your liberal media friends helping you out, refuse to produce a few simple documents to clear the air? 4. And what is all this hurry, hurry to pass bills without the Congress even reading them?

Someday all you kool-aid drinkers will appreciate “the insanely stupid” who just want the Constitution of the US upheld when the day comes for you to go to court and a “law to clear your name” just might be shoved under the rug because some judge out there just don't like you! I'll bet you scramble to find that needle in a haystack if it meant YOUR freedom. SO THE LAW DOES MATTER, especially for the highest office in the land or we cease to be a ligitimate democracy and are headed for a dictatorship where the elite get by with anything, i.e., Charlie Rangle (aka, another tax evader) AS a recent example. Joe Q Public would be losing his home or worse by now if it happened to him.

NO KOOL AID FOR ME!!

KEEP GOING BIRTHERS TILL WE GET SOME PLAIN ANSWERS THE FOLKS CAN LIVE WITH.


strangely_enough
Comment posted October 8, 2009 @ 6:35 pm

Get back to me when he starts ginning up a war right before the midterm elections, and uses said war to get reelected with the full cooperation of the MSM.
Now that's something no one wants to talk about.


chrisjay
Comment posted October 8, 2009 @ 6:45 pm

Spacy, when you get us laughing like this you need to be tolerant of the occasional keystroke misfire—sometimes its hard to see straight with this kind of comedy gold running full-bore outta the tap…


SpacelySpaceSprockets
Comment posted October 8, 2009 @ 6:49 pm

Maybe you should just hop on the Impeach Obama For No Apparent Reason train. I hear WND is getting started on this stupidity now. This birth certificate nonsense is getting old and stale. We need new stuff to laugh at.


Antibirther
Comment posted October 8, 2009 @ 6:51 pm

1. Show us the beef (real birth certificate).

He did. It’s not his fault if you won’t accept the standard documentation that the State of Hawaii provides.

2. Why ya spendin $1M to keep your school records, medical records etc. out of public eye when all other presidents and candidates have provided complete disclosure?

He isn’t. All of the cases were dismissed before they went anywhere. Most of the early cases didn’t even list him as a defendant. The judges have started to dismiss these cases “with prejudice.” Which means that the plaintiffs will have to pay Obama’s legal bills.

3. Why did ya apply for foreign student aid if you were a citizen?

He didn’t. Some one posted that as an April fools joke. It’s now October and the joke is still going strong.

4. How come you promise transparency in government as the refreshing CHANGE and yet with your liberal media friends helping you out, refuse to produce a few simple documents to clear the air?

He doesn’t have to do anything to appease a couple of cranks who won’t accept anything he does anyway.

4. And what is all this hurry, hurry to pass bills without the Congress even reading them?

Hey, didn’t we already answer # 4? Anyway, what are you talking about congress not having time to read the bills, they wrote them.


Antibirther
Comment posted October 8, 2009 @ 6:54 pm

Are you just being an obnoxious troll or are you really that stupid?


Antibirther
Comment posted October 8, 2009 @ 6:54 pm

Now you are definitely being a troll.


Antibirther
Comment posted October 8, 2009 @ 6:55 pm

How do you spell “Tracy?” T. R. O. L. L.


chrisjay
Comment posted October 8, 2009 @ 6:56 pm

That's right, Birfers, KEEP GOING ! Keep at it until you bleed every last shred of credibility from the rightwing. You'll probably take down the entire GOP with you but, hey, all's fair etc, right?
One of the byproducts of your Quixotic mission is the gradual inoculation of Obama against any number of accusations from imagined to real, and with the huge mess our President has to clean up, it'll be nice for him to be insulated from much of the whiney white noise as he goes about his work for the next 8 years————-Keep up the good work!


7
Comment posted October 8, 2009 @ 7:09 pm

1 – BO’s birth certificate, which was authenticated by the State of Hawaii as well as its Republican governor, was released. Only thing is, people not living in the reality based community don’t want recognize it because it is contrary to what they desperately want to believe.
2 – BO has not spent any money suppressing release of any documents. Also, you are wrong in saying that every president has released such documents. For example, George W Bush never released his National Guard docs, and for good reason. The money spent meme is one of those things that has been tossed out there with no proof to back it up. It’s a lot of bologna that it appears, you are gobbling up like its filet mignon.
3 – BO did not apply for financial aid as a foreigner.
4 – More nonsense that has no basis in reality.
5 – Passing bills with out reading them? You mean the way the Republican Congress passed the Patriot Act with out reading it?

Just like Orly, you seem to totally ignore a very basic principle of American jurisprudence that the burden of proof rests with the plaintive, not with the defendant. If the birthers have any evidence, they are free to present it. So far the best they could come up with as “proof” is the results of an AOL internet poll, and fake Kenyan birth certificate that was such an obvious fake it clearly was created just to make the birthers look crazy (which admittedly is a rather easy task). Again, the burden of proof is on Orly and the birthers, not on Obama. I know that really sucks for your team, but that is how it works here in America. The good news there are places where such rules are not employed. Places like China, Cuba, Iran. Maybe you might like it there.


7
Comment posted October 8, 2009 @ 7:23 pm

Well, this should be rather easy to verify if its true. Can you provide the cached link to his website that includes this statement?

(cue crickets chirping)

Just as I thought.


Secular Progressive
Comment posted October 8, 2009 @ 7:40 pm

The only reason it is not news, is the liberal media is protecting their man

Ahh, the irony of someone crying that this is not in the news, on a news media website, where the story is being reported.
Only in Lunatic Fringeland does stuff like this fly


Majority Will
Comment posted October 8, 2009 @ 7:49 pm

It's obvious that it's both.


chrisjay
Comment posted October 8, 2009 @ 8:06 pm

yesterday you said he was Jamaican. Make up your mind which story you're going with today. Jeez you are as confused as Oily…


ObamacornLies
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 2:51 am

F off…hey, didn’t your name say DarthHater before…

hahaha


Anonymous
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 2:58 am

No, just stupid.


Steve_X
Comment posted October 8, 2009 @ 10:10 pm

“Why is it that former ambassador/twice-former presidential candidate/editorialist & former talkshow host Alan Keyes' courtcase in pursuit of discovery of the Obama's pertinent documents is not in the news?”

Because Alan Keyes is a perpetual loser, and nothing he does is newsworthy. He wasn't newsworthy when he ran for president (and lost), and he wasn't news worthy when he ran for the Senate (and lost). Like the birfers, Alan Keyes always was and always will be a joke.

The only think newsworthy about birfers is how stupid and delusional you are; so stupid that you file frivolous suit after frivolous suit with NO evidence whatsoever, and delusional because you seriously think that a judge will waive your burden of proof because you don't have any evidence.


littybell
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 12:51 am

Still stupid I see. Oh and bye the way we are still awaiting those official citizenship documents from your hubby. We can't have all these “Foreign Aliens” running around here thinking they are “REAL AMERICANS simply because they up and married some dim witted US citizen!! We got to keep America for American right! LOL!!


Majority Will
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 12:58 am

2. Why ya spendin $1M to keep your school records, medical records etc. out of public eye when all other presidents and candidates have provided complete disclosure?”

You're a liar with no proof. And pretty crappy at copy/paste. Put up or STFU, idiot.

By the way, the million dollar figure originally came from birfoon and troofer Philip Berg. He didn't have proof either and was laughed out of court. But it doesn't matter because you're just that freakin' stupid.

In October 2004, Berg filed Rodriguez v. Bush, accusing the President of the United States and 155 other parties of complicity in the 9/11 attacks.
This 237-page civil lawsuit included allegations pursuant to the RICO (Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act) against The United States Of America, the Federal Emergency Management Agency, the Department of Homeland Security, George Herbert Walker Bush, George Walker Bush, Richard Cheney, Donald H. Rumsfeld,and numerous others, totaling 156 defendants in the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Pennsylvania.

You're in good company, guano for brains.
And you deserve to be mocked and ridiculed as often as possible.


Majority Will
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 1:02 am

“Why did ya apply for foreign student aid if you were a citizen?”

It was an online April Fool's Joke, fool. Want proof or are you too slow to figure this one out too?


Majority Will
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 1:04 am

“4. How come you promise transparency in government as the refreshing CHANGE and yet with your liberal media friends helping you out, refuse to produce a few simple documents to clear the air?”

He's referring to transparency in government revoking HIPAA laws to satisfy freaks and identity thieves like you. Holy crap, you're stupid.


Majority Will
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 1:05 am

“4. And what is all this hurry, hurry to pass bills without the Congress even reading them? “

Did you ask your Representative or are you the sniveling coward you seem to be?


Majority Will
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 1:06 am

“I am an ordinary citizen . . .”

No. You're not. You're twisted, paranoid and delusional.


Majority Will
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 1:09 am

“1. Show us the beef (real birth certificate).”

I'll believe Linda Lingle, the State of Hawaii, the State Department and the Secretaries of State. You are an anonymous coward with zero credentials, no credibility, and a nasty stench even over the internet. Phew. You're disgusting.


littybell
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 1:13 am

Yeah but how do WE know you are just an “Ordinary Citizen?” Where are the papers to prove it! I say you are a foreign agent trained by the Telaban and sent here to overthrow our legitimate government with mindless birther rantings!! OK, THAT IS IT…. new rule!! ANYONE CLAIMING OUR PRESIDENT IS FOREIGN BORN MUST FIRST PROVE THAT THEY THEMSELVES ARE NATURAL BORN CITIZENS. I want affidavits from the Doctors, Nurses, neighbors kindergarten teachers, babysitters along with original LONG FORM BIRTH CERTIFICATES with verifiable proof of official signatures(so you better hope these folks are still alive.) ROFLMAO!!!


Majority Will
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 1:14 am

I think he's coming on to you.


Majority Will
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 1:14 am

From your planet?


Majority Will
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 1:16 am

Maybe Rush sold him some hillbilly heroin.


Bob
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 1:20 am

The court denied Taitz's request for relief from the stay of discovery:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/20818334/KEYES-BARNET…

The court explicitly said the motion to dismiss is still under submission.

So: Alan Keyes (and his attorney, Orly Taitz) have epically failed. Again.


littybell
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 1:23 am

Ok, but who is going to break this news to TRACY?!! ROFLMAO!!!!


tracyfair
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 2:13 am

So, he can't be Jamaican AND be born here?

Wow, you ARE that STUPID!


tracyfair
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 2:15 am

lolol, so what is it gonna prove, once you see it? If he WASN'T born here, then I'm racist? LOLOL


darthtater
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 2:16 am

No basis in fact.


darthtater
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 2:17 am

Forgot that one… ;)


tracyfair
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 2:20 am

Obama Birth Certificate filed in Citizenship Case

In the case of Army Captain Pamela Barnett v. Barrack Hussein Obama, Attorney Orly Taitz has filed a copy of Obama’s birth certificate in the US District Court in Santa Ana, California in preparation for court trial January 26, 2010.

The certificate shows Obama was born August 4, 1961 in Coast General Hospital, Mombasa, Kenya. If Obama attorneys cannot produce a valid US birth certificate, then Obama cannot be president and may even be deported back to his native Kenya.

This blog may be verified by contacting the Santa Ana Federal Court, or Atty. Taitz at 949-683-5411, e-mail dr_taitz@yahoo.com. Contrary to the belief of liberals one cannot be a US President unless they were born in the US

http://www.thecitizen.com/~citizen0/node/39859


tracyfair
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 2:23 am

That's right…the mothin to dismiss HAS NOT been denied!

So, yap all ya want!


tracyfair
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 2:28 am

Doh, Tracy is way more on top of the news, than littybell and as I said earlier, the MTD, has not been denied EITHER. I'd be more afraid about that. All that means the stay hasn't been dropped, YET! Once MTD is thrown out, then discovery WILL come in!


tracyfair
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 2:28 am

BLA BLA BLA, SHUTUP!


tracyfair
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 2:30 am

I guess you'll believe them, the same way you will believe Van Jones, William Ayers and Wade Rathke (Obamacorn's best buddies)

You guys suck!


tracyfair
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 2:32 am

hahaha, this is your guys ONLY way of fighting, cause you have no FACTS! When you're down and out attack their personally…
Nuttin new!


tracyfair
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 2:33 am

They are cowards. It shows all over this page!


tracyfair
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 2:35 am

Yaeh, there aare a few freaks after me, so let me just BREAK all my promises and trash the Constitution! Ain't gonna work!


tracyfair
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 2:36 am

Ahhh April Fools…LIAR
FAIL


tracyfair
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 2:37 am

So, ALL his lawyers, for ALLLL these casesm are doing it all for FREE?
LOLOL, a lawyer working for FREE, lolol…now that's funny!


tracyfair
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 2:39 am

OMG, I opened my paper today and ORLY is on the FRONT page of the Style section. I mean BIG, front page. And I am clear across the country!

WooHoo


tracyfair
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 2:40 am

And can you prove that his lawyers are working for FREE? Prove it, otherwise it is NOT free!


tracyfair
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 2:42 am

What, gettin scared?


tracyfair
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 2:44 am

I am 5'4″, 120 pounds and I bet I COULD squash you like a bug. You sound like a 12 years old, so shouldn't be that much of a problem!


tracyfair
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 2:45 am

I think I just threw up in my mouth!


littybell
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 2:47 am

So why don't you file your own lawsuit against President Obama with the help of Orly? Because when this one gets dismissed she will need some other nutter to file another one and you fit the bill perfectly. Just remember to leave hubby at home or INS might nab him and deport him to his HOME country. Remember, try not to impute someone's citizenship status unless you can prove you own! Dumb ( I )!!


tracyfair
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 2:48 am

Which WOULD match up Red, because Kenya was part of The British Protectorate of Kenya, back in 1961! Exacly what is says, on his Kenyan birth certificate!


tracyfair
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 2:49 am

I think I hear your Mommy calling! Run along now…


littybell
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 2:51 am

Oh Look! The Alien harboring birther is at a loss for words!! LOL!!


Steve_X
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 2:52 am

“The certificate shows Obama was born August 4, 1961 in Coast General Hospital, Mombasa, Kenya. If Obama attorneys cannot produce a valid US birth certificate, then Obama cannot be president and may even be deported back to his native Kenya.”

Ah, more delusional birfer nonsense…but why am I surprised anymore? Without evidence, facts, or law on their side, nonsense is all birfers have to go on.


littybell
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 2:53 am

Which section the Funnies? LOL!!


tracyfair
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 2:54 am

Nahhh, you just bore me. Anything you say, just sounds like a 12 year old and a total waste of time!


littybell
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 3:01 am

Time! Something you birthers have plenty of. Tell me, are there elephant unicorns living in your world?


wayoutwest
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 3:09 am

ALERT! ALERT! The truth is finally out and we must act now. This is not a test repeat this is not a test.

All paid Obama bloggers are to report to their ACORN or SEUI assembly points to be issued their cattle-prods or tranquilizer guns, depending on which training they received at Americorp indoctrination camp.

There you will recieve your assignment for Operation Rogue Rabbit Roundup. The internment camps are operational and awaiting the arrival of birthers, deathers, teabaggers, nativists, libertarians, Larouchers, and anyone else who dares to question the Leader.

The Leader thanks all paid bloggers who drew out the unbelievers and allowed them to be tagged and now bagged.

Identifying your targets will be aided by the fact that they wear tinfoil hats and appear paranoid and delusional.

The Final Solution is at hand, do your part and the Leader will be pleased.

PRAISE THE LEADER!!!


thesheriffsani
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 3:25 am

I would wager a bet that Obama's still in office by January 19, 2012, but I can't trust someone harboring an illegal immigrant.


littybell
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 4:18 am

Clap! Clap! You really work hard on this didn't you. I bet I know where Limbaugh, Beck enjoys sticking you with their cattle little prods.


RedGraham
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 4:26 am

Barack Hussein Obama II is NOT an Article II Natural Born Citizen of the USA!


SpacelySpaceSprockets
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 4:42 am

Yep, this one is fake too, A Fake TracyFair, a fake. It will be tossed out like yesterdays news.


SpacelySpaceSprockets
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 4:44 am

Yeah, but we're winning and you're slowly losing your mind over it. Frustrating, isn't it?


SpacelySpaceSprockets
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 4:50 am

So scared I'm shivering, baby! I hope the fact these court cases aren't going anywhere is driving you actually insane.


SpacelySpaceSprockets
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 4:51 am

Can you prove you're actually not stupid, prove it otherwise you are. See what I did there?


SpacelySpaceSprockets
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 4:53 am

and your stupidity proceeds you, madam.


littybell
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 4:56 am

Why, because you say so? Give your proof to Orly so she can prove her case. I mean if you had all this indisputable proof of his citizenship why the hell did you go and let Obama beat the hell out of Mcain/Palin in that landslide election 10 months ago!! Why did all you freaking nutters allow this “Un-natural born citizen” to even run for President at all? You all are a bunch of B*tch A ( I ) sore loosers with straw in your head for brains! Either, prove your F*ing case OR shut the F* up!! You'll notice that I said OR cause you all to too stupid to do both. LOL!!


SpacelySpaceSprockets
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 4:56 am

Yes, but it will be and then what will you do? I can sense the frustration Tracy. Isn't it maddening that no one will listen to you, that your words are ignored? It's killing you, isn't it? Slowly killing you inside, where it hurts the most.


SpacelySpaceSprockets
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 4:57 am

Ahh, don't worry about Red, he just makes shit up as he goes…


RedGraham
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 5:35 am

Why isn'this stuff on the evening news and in the headlines?
UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
CENTRAL DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA
CIVIL MINUTES – GENERAL
CV-90 (12/02) CIVIL MINUTES – GENERAL Page 1 of 1
Case No. SACV09-0082 DOC (ANx) Date October 5, 2009
Title CAPTAIN PAMELA BARNETT, ET AL. V. BARACK HUSSEIN
OBAMA, ET AL. Present: The
Honorable
David O. Carter, U.S. District Judge
Kristee Hopkins Debbie Gale N/A
Deputy Clerk Court Reporter / Recorder Tape No. Attorneys Present for Plaintiffs: Attorneys Present for Defendants:
Orly Taitz
Gary Kreep
David DeJute, AUSA
Roger West, AUSA
Proceedings: 1. MOTION BY DEFENDANTS TO DISMISS CASE 2. SCHEDULING CONFERENCE
Cause called and counsel state their appearances. Argument by counsel. Motion taken under submission.
On September 8, 2009, the Court previously set tentative case management dates. The Court now orders those dates be made final. Case Management dates are as follows:
Motion for Summary Judgment Hearing December 7, 2009, at 8:30 a.m.
File Motion for Summary Judgment November 16, 2009
Opposition to Motion for Summary Judgment November 26, 2009
Reply to Motion for Summary Judgment November 30, 2009
Final Pretrial Conference January 11, 2010, at 8:30 a.m.
Jury Trial January 26, 2010, at 8:30 a.m.
3 : 21 01 Initials of Preparer kh
Case 8:09-cv-00082-DOC-AN Document 81 Filed 10/05/2009 Page 1 of 1
ANY QUESTIONS?


littybell
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 6:19 am

Nope. Just let up know when you loose the case. Thanks! lol


Majority Will
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 12:44 pm

You don’t know? You really are an idiot.


Majority Will
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 12:45 pm

Now you’re stalking people? You’re a dangerous idiot.


Majority Will
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 12:47 pm

And you’re still a stupid little dog barking from the end of your chain.


msdaisy
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 11:17 am

I'll tell you what IS in the news; Obama has just become the 3rd sitting President to be awarded the Nobel Peace Prize! GoBama! Now I wonder how stupid all you Birthers are going to feel when he goes down in history as the greatest President of our time. Probably not as stupid as you’ll look in the history books!


7
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 4:53 pm

I never said his lawyers were working for free. It appears your reading comprehension skills are as shaky as your grip on reality.


ObamacornLies
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 5:06 pm

No butterflies and zebras

Clapton Rules!


ObamacornLies
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 5:10 pm

And socialist/communist chose him baaawwwwwaaahhhh

guess they are old friends…


ObamacornLies
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 5:12 pm

“2 – BO has not spent any money suppressing release of any documents”

LIAR LIAR pants on FIRE

FAIL


Majority Will
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 12:30 pm

And you're STILL an idiot.


Majority Will
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 12:32 pm

He types with one hand while fantasizing about Beck and Limbaugh in a thong.


Majority Will
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 12:34 pm

I never said that and you're an asshole.


Anonymous
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 5:35 pm

These individuals whom you characterize as ‘biting the dust’ haven’t gone anywhere—they’re still your lawmakers. See, the way it works, doublewide, is that we hold events which are calles ELECTIONS and hte majority decides who governs. The minority then waits until the next election to try again. We call this system ‘Democracy’ . You should do some of your research on this topic. I think you will find it enlightening and it should ease your distress and confusion. You’re welcome.


Majority Will
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 12:35 pm

Where's your proof, sniveling, little coward? You deserve to be mocked.

You are unpatriotic and should be charged with sedition.


Majority Will
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 12:37 pm

You're not making sense. Did you stop taking your lithium?


Majority Will
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 12:40 pm

Some of it is pro bono. Go look that up, dipstick.
When did defending yourself from idiotic, frivolous lawsuits become illegal or immoral.

Don't think too hard, little idiot. You'll hurt yourself.


Majority Will
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 12:41 pm

Obama won the Nobel Peace Prize. And you're still an insignificant loser.


7
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 5:53 pm

Read it again. Saying OB never spent any money suppressng release of his docs is not the same thing as saying his lawyers are working for free.

Reading comprehension FAIL

BTW do you care for another helping of sour grapes?

Jump in Obamas Approval Ratings


ObamacornLies
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 5:53 pm

lolol, if I ain’t mistaken, you seem might PROUD of Mr. Rangel!

lolol


Anonymous
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 5:53 pm

Jimi Hendrix wrote the song you just quoted (Little Wing) but since your racism is somewhat sublimated, in your case it manifests in giving Clapton credit for a song that a black man wrote (and performed much better than Clapton did)


Anonymous
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 5:57 pm

You are a true moron. If he were born here, he might be of Jamaican ancestry, but he would be an American. Your ignorance is truly a painful thing to behold. Typical Birfer.


ObamacornLies
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 5:59 pm

Well, considering his lawyers have been in court MANY TIMES to try and have these cases dismissed BECAUSE they don’t want to show his REAL birth certificate, kinda makes you look like you have no clue what the HELL you are talking about!

Give it up!
YOU LOSE!


7
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 6:11 pm

You do realize that every time these cases your team brings to court are dismissed, the court orders them to pay for the defense legal bills. The lawyers are being paid, but not by Obama, but by Orly’s clients. So not only is Orly losing the cases, but she is also letting her clients get stuck with the bill to defend Obama. Kind of funny, aint it, to be forced to pay for the defense of someone you are trying to remove from office?


ObamacornLies
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 6:16 pm

Dozens have covered it, but Derek and The Dominos perfected it!

My husband is a huge Hendrix freak, as am I. So, once again, shove that race card, up your ass.

Oh, and by the way, Jimi above anything else, STOOD FOR FREEDOM, which is against what you lefties want!


tracyfair
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 1:19 pm

Why thank ya!


tracyfair
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 1:20 pm

Winning, pffftttt..I'm sure…
Not one once of truth here from you losers!


tracyfair
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 1:21 pm

No, YOU are unpatriotic. Stepping all over the Constitution!


littybell
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 1:22 pm

ROFLMAO!!


tracyfair
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 1:27 pm

He was served, BEFORE he was sworn in, meaning he was NOT the president at the time. And with no proof that he IS LEGAL, than he should NOT be represented by the US Attorneys Office!


ObamacornLies
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 6:28 pm

Proof all over all ya gotta do is read!


tracyfair
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 1:28 pm

I wonder if they will force him to give back the Nobel Peace Prize, when he's kicked to the curb!


tracyfair
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 1:30 pm

Yeah, he'll need it when he gets booted out of the Whitehouse for FRAUDING the American people…


tracyfair
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 1:33 pm

Cause they are SCARED! It might tarnish their little liar some more, plus the idiots will start to find out whats up and they can't have that. Just censor the news against him and the people stay stupid! That's just what they want!


tracyfair
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 1:34 pm

Oh we are gonna PROVE it, don't you worry! Then YOU will SHUT THE FUCK UP!

LOLOL


tracyfair
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 1:36 pm

lolol, I was wondering where they all went….

CLASSIC!


tracyfair
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 1:36 pm

Sorry, but that was REALLY lameeeeeee!


tracyfair
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 1:37 pm

Oh, that was just sooo hilarious…

NOT


ObamacornLies
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 6:41 pm

Can you be Italian, and be born here? Can you be African and be born here?
Forgot about you lefties and your political correctness.

lolol

It’s actually none of your fucking business about my husband, but if you must know. He was conceived in Jamaica but born here to his Jamaican Father (naturalized american) and American mother, who currently live back in Jamaica, which is why we go there every year, hence the Jamaica videos!

LOOOOSER!


littybell
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 1:47 pm

And so are you. So thank you. There is nothing like a hot cup of stupid to go with my bagel in the morning.


tracyfair
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 1:51 pm

Well drink up your cup of stupid, stupid!


7
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 6:56 pm

Speaking of proof, yesterday you claimed that on his campaign website, Obama said he was born in a country governed by the British Nationality Act of 1948. You were asked to provide a link to the page where this appeared(understandably it would be a cached link). You never provided the link. Care to do it now? After all, I’m sure you don’t want to look foolish and would want to back up your claim.


tracyfair
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 2:01 pm

No frustration here…

I'm gettin ready to celebrate!

WOOHOO


littybell
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 2:11 pm

Hello!! You straw brained, colossally stupid A ( I ) wipe! You and your stupid kind never said a word about his citizenship until after you saw your Mcain/Palin asses getting spanked in the election!! Then to top it off you all allowed OB to seek elected office in the first damn place. Now I know it is hard for you to follow sequences but bare with me here…. If OB is unqualified to serve then he should have been unqualified to run!! PEA BRAIN!!! He ran for President for over two years!!! You and all you your bat sh*t crazy friends had that long to freaking WALK to Kenya and bribe a Kenyan official to give you all a bogus certificate to clog our court system with. Instead you brilliant F*ers wait until he wins the election by a landslide! Tell me, when you have your crazy meetings in crazy town with all your crazy Friends, why didn't one you crazy beans bring this up!!


ObamacornLies
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 7:17 pm

Sorry, wasn’t me. I’ve never been to his campaign website. I know it was the British Protectorate of Kenya, where he was born. I may have responded to that comment, but don’t think I wrote it. I have heard of it though and think I’ve even seen it around. Look around, not hard to find!


littybell
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 2:18 pm

Your witty repartee is mind blowing.


Steve_X
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 2:28 pm

Oh you birfer…writing something in all caps doesn't make it true. Here, let me show you.

Birfers are NOT ignorant delusional morons.

See? Even though I wrote that in caps, it's still a false statement because birfers are delusional, ignorant morons.


7
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 7:32 pm

Sorry, I was mistaken and stand corrected. You did not make this original claim, although you do seem to support it. However, you are wrong in saying it is not to hard to find. Seeing how such a claim was never made, it would be very very very very hard to find (outside of Lunatic Fringeland at least)


tracyfair
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 2:41 pm

All I can say is, talk to your skank Pelosi, that was her doing. She's heading out in 2010 anyways, thank goodness! Hope she takes her socialist,.communist, illegal alien with her!


tracyfair
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 2:43 pm

Wins by a LANDSLIDE? LOLOL, ever hear of Acorn. I guess you didn't know that they are being investigated for voter fraud in over 15 states…Nahhh, would hear that on the state run TV News!


tracyfair
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 2:44 pm

Frustrating, eh? LOLOL

SUCK IT UP!


tracyfair
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 2:44 pm

Coswell Cogs is #1


littybell
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 2:52 pm

So in your cluster F*ed Pea Brain it all coming together for you huh. Well, good luck with that! But stupid, you still let let OB RUN for office!!


tracyfair
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 2:54 pm

Yeah, “I” let him…lolol

You people are MORONS!


littybell
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 2:55 pm

OK stupid, your are loosing your train of thought again. We are discussing OB's birth certificate here.


tracyfair
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 2:59 pm

DUHHHHHHHH, she is the one that CHECKED out his birth certificate, IDIOT. Go learn something and come back when you are a little more educated!


littybell
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 3:01 pm

Well according to you we are must be smart enough to elect a “Non-Citizen to he highest office in the land while you buffoons watched in stunned disbelief!


msdaisy
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 3:10 pm

Getting a little testy now are we??? Funny how that always happens to crazy people when their delusions are confronted. Your Birther movement has been talking tons of utter bullshit for months and months. And every time you get slapped down you start to name call and blame the whole rest of the (rational) world for being in a conspiracy. Then you continue to say you’re “GONNA” prove it. Well??? Why not just prove it and get on with it then? Its time to “Shit or get off the pot”. But the fact is that you CAN’T prove squat or you would have done so already. You may as well try to prove to the entire world that water ISN’T wet!


littybell
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 3:11 pm

So when are you and Orly going to be bring a lawsuit against Pelosi for aiding and abetting to put an “Un-Naturally” born citizen citizen in the presidency? Come on dummy, this case needs to clogging up the courts along with Obama's bogus birth certificate! Why wait until she looses the election! CHOP!! CHOP!! call Orly and file your case!!


littybell
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 3:17 pm

Nope but is hilarious!!


littybell
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 3:21 pm

Nope.


Anonymous
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 8:37 pm

I thought you were leaving, pinhead. So leave already. Be gone. You are a waste of electrons.


Bob
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 3:41 pm

“Why isn'this stuff on the evening news and in the headlines?”

Because it is a routine order from a case that's about to be dismissed.


Anonymous
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 8:50 pm

“If I aint mistaken…” Now there’s a walking punchline if I’ve ever seen one!


Anonymous
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 8:52 pm

I’m guessing that you have a reserved stool in some sleazy bar where you do LOTS of celebratin’…


tracyfair
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 4:41 pm

hahaha, every time I get slapped down. You mean with someone calling me a name like a fat pig or a racist. That's because they can't take the facts that are put right in front of their face. Believe me honey, they are not slapping me down, one bit.

You are the ones being slapped down with facts and can't handle it, so you retort to name calling, typical.

Say cheeeeeeeeeeeese


tracyfair
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 4:42 pm

I proved plenty, it's not my fault you can't read!


tracyfair
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 4:43 pm

Ahhhh, I see you liked my ( | ),
sure…I'll let ya copy from me…

lolololol


chrisjay
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 4:47 pm

Hey chunky, where was you husband born? Here or in Jamaica? What's your story today? Shall we call you Sybill?


tracyfair
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 4:50 pm

Actually, if you were up on your current evenTs, you would have seen that Skank Pelosi is being added to the list of defendants for this case.

As requested by retired military Magistrate Steve Neuenschwander:

HI, Orly. Is it possible the judge has saved you from two possible or most probable appeals by the defendants? As he has indirectly, as it appears, denied their motion to dismiss without specifically stating, he has in effect barred them from an appeal on that matter. Likewise, he has also forced them now to either come clean or continue with discovery of the facts. In either case he puts them in the uncomfortable position of perjuring themselves along with Clinton and Biden. I was thinking that as we now have evidence that Pelosi altered the DNC Certification that she to be added as a defendant to the case as well as the witness and the notary public to the two certification documents as even the notary is at minimum culpable in the conspiracy as she notarized both documents on the same date and most probably at the same time.

Steve Neuenschwander

YOUR WISH IS GRANTED!


tracyfair
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 4:51 pm

Yur gonna hafta do some researching before you come in here next time!


7
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 4:55 pm

Today on the Right Wingnut Menu:
Sour Grapes


tracyfair
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 4:57 pm

Uh huh, so is Rangel
Another one bites the dust

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2009/10/…

Oh look…news on your skank bitch Pelosi…DRAIN THE SWAMP MY ASS, she IS the swamp!

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2009/10/09/andre…


msdaisy
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 4:59 pm

The only thing any of you have proven is how to be thrown out of court and laughed at. What you claim as “proof” the courts call garbage. If you had anything even resembling “proof” it would have been taken seriously long ago. But all you have is forgeries, hearsay and flat out nonsense and lies. You have proven nothing other than your ignorance.


tracyfair
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 5:04 pm

Not at all. When you look at the judges…all Socialists/Communists…it makes all the sense in the world. He even said he didn't deserve it, sooo…he knows what's up.


tracyfair
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 5:23 pm

Obama's OWN grandmother stated (while being recorded) that he was born in Kenya and she was present for the birth. Even if they say she misspoke about where, she wasn't in Hawaii at that time, so you figure it out!


chrisjay
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 5:29 pm

Sorry tubby, I'm sitting perfectly still in my tree patiently adjusting the coathanger antenna on my tinfoil hat but I'm still not getting the 'research' updates that you're getting…I'll keep at it, though


AXJ ROCKS
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 5:29 pm

Probably but looks like HOMELAND SECURITY has paid Judge Carter a visit.


tracyfair
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 5:34 pm

What chu talkin bout WILLIS?


7
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 5:38 pm

Communists? Dude, its 2009, not 1979. I know you Regressives like to live in the past, but come on, thats just crazy.


chrisjay
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 5:48 pm

'Frauding' is not a word you ignorant Birfer


tracyfair
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 5:56 pm

Oh and birfer IS? Perhaps in the Urban Dictionary!

IDIOT!


Gun Totin' Liberal
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 5:58 pm

The only people that are scared is Glenn “Cry Baby” Beck and his legions of crazies. He says it himself, while choaking back on his Vics Vapor Rub induced tears.


chrisjay
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 6:31 pm

A little slow on the uptake, aren't you Jumbo? The intentionality of the mis-spelling of Birther is a well-established concept. Oh and by the way, repeatedly beginning your sentences with 'perhaps' does not make you appear any smarter.


tracyfair
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 6:43 pm

Last I heard, this wasn't English class, so fuck off teach!


wayoutwest
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 6:53 pm

Chris. I see that playing whack-a-mole with the afterbirthers is still the game of choice on this site.

I gave up trying to use logic and facts on them long ago, i found that sarcasm and ridicule provided more interesting results.

Hammer them enough and their heads begin to rotate and the projectile vomiting begins.

I and other paid Obama bloggers have retired on our earnings and we are glad to pass the baton to the new crew.

Your checks are in the mail.

Pete


littybell
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 7:11 pm

Stop casing aspersions on these who are no longer here defend themselves you crackpot! So in your world 1 + 1 equals rabid squirrels in your head!


littybell
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 7:13 pm

Who wouldn't find an ass that talks fascinating.


littybell
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 7:19 pm

ROFLMAO!!! Now that was hilarious!!The utter stupidity continues to grow with each dismissal. Do you and Orly plan on subpoenaing the dead too?


SpacelySpaceSprockets
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 7:23 pm

Sorry Tracy, that would be the dream you had last night. Reality is a cold, hard bitch-slap to the face. Obama's not leaving office anytime soon.


littybell
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 7:23 pm

AHH but Alas dummy, I am not psychotic or delusional so I may never get the secret messages that you do. But by all mean keep posting them because I find them utterly amusing!


tracyfair
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 7:24 pm

Uhhh yeah! I wasn't here, when they were leaving replies to my commnets, so BITE ME!

And how do you know they aren't HERE? lolol, cause you are THEM! LOOSER, you guys don't have enough on your side so you all have to make 10 accounts for yourself…

hahahahaha


SpacelySpaceSprockets
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 7:26 pm

Come on Tracy, say it. Say “Wherez Rony Ray-Gunz medal?” All the cool conservatives are saying it these days.


SpacelySpaceSprockets
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 7:28 pm

Ha, do you kiss RayGunz corpse with that mouth?


SpacelySpaceSprockets
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 7:32 pm

Never happen, Tracy. Not in a million years are you ever going to able to prove anything other than Barak Obama is a natural born citizen of the United States and is eligible to be President.

So you can STFU anytime now.


SpacelySpaceSprockets
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 7:33 pm

The fact you are looking for is in a vault in the State of Hawaii. The COLB is a birth certificate, always has been and always will be.


tracyfair
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 7:34 pm

Ok people, I am leaving. So don't reply to my comments cause I am not here to defend myself. You'll hafta wait til I come back…

LOLOLOL, IDIOT!


msdaisy
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 7:35 pm

Debunked, yet again! (Imagine that) The woman who “supposedly” made that statement is not even BO’s real grandmother, but the 2nd wife of BO’s paternal grandfather and in fact no blood relation at all. She is just a poor woman living in a hut in a poor village looking for attention, or perhaps trying to cash in on her STEP-grandson’s fame.

Not to mention that “alleged” recording was another Birther “invention” by a Philadelphia lawyer named Phillip Berg and it was never verified as authentic. His proof was a lot like yours. “Someone knew a guy who had a cousin whose roommate’s girlfriends X-mother-in-law’s hairdresser said so.” So hay, there’s your proof, right?

As I said, you have “proved” nothing. And as for what we have on our side? We have the laws of the land that and the Supreme Court of the US that has verified and sworn in Barrack Obama as the lawful POTUS. (Deal with it!) And none of your bullshit fantasies will ever change that. SLAP, SLAP, SLAPPED Again! LOL!


SpacelySpaceSprockets
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 7:35 pm

Hmmm, restating proven lies does not equal “proof”.


tracyfair
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 7:37 pm

The Kenyan one looks much more legit than that piece of garbage he's provided!


SpacelySpaceSprockets
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 7:47 pm

Oh you mean the computer-generated COLB from the State of Hawaii? Yeah, totes fake Tracy.

Yeah, how could he be a senator and get a driver's license and a passport with that “piece of garbage”, right?


jedidad
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 7:48 pm

BATTLE HYMN OF THE UNSINKABLE BIRTHERS!
(Sung to the tune of “The Battle Hymn of? the Republic”)

Mine eyes have not yet seen
Obama's birth certificate.
It is hidden in a vault
Where only God's Right Hand can get.
Obama's C. O. L. B. is a
Lousy counterfeit.
It's truth we're marching for!!!!

Orly! Orly! Hallelujah!!!
Orly! Orly! Hallelujah!!!
Orly! Orly! Hallelujah!!!
It's truth we're marching for!!!!

(Author grants permission to reprint on web or in print and to perform in public)


SpacelySpaceSprockets
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 7:49 pm

So leave already, don't announce it, just go fergawdsakes.


SpacelySpaceSprockets
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 7:53 pm

That is all kinds of awesome! Orly! Orly! Hallelujah! Come Tracy, you know the tune…and Red can be your Supremes on back up vocals.


SpacelySpaceSprockets
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 7:55 pm

Because you have been unable to keep those kids off your lawn, that's why.


7
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 7:56 pm

The “Kenyan” one was revealed to be a forgery in less than 24 hours

The bc that was provided by the Obama camp has been verified by the state as well as its Republican gov.

Listen, I realize that the facts are not working to your advantage. But maybe you will feel better if you just repeat the mantra from Colbert:
“Facts have a well known liberal bias”


chrisjay
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 7:57 pm

weak
go back to your Starwars videogames


Troll Translator
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 8:00 pm

TRANSLATION: These damn liberals keep using facts to combat my myths! They are laughing at me and making fun of me and are just so mean! Its just so unfair that the majority of Americans have rejected my leaders and values. I hope they dont say anything about me once Im gone, because I cant defend myself, although playing the victim is something that brings me joy.


chrisjay
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 8:07 pm

People don'r realize that Glenn Beck had a minor role in the George C Scott biopic about General Patton.
He was only in one scene: he played the young soldier who Patton confronted when he noticed the soldier crying–when he wouldn't stop the general bitch-slapped him!


chrisjay
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 8:09 pm

Thanks West. I appreciate the gig and I'll try to earn my keep. I've never been paid for having so much fun!


littybell
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 8:17 pm

Mummmm… no we don't. We can keep right on posting and watch your little head spin when you get back! lol


ObamacornLies
Comment posted October 10, 2009 @ 1:36 am

Call me whatever the hell you want, I could care less. Just proves that you all have no argument with our facts, so you go with the personal insults!

Throw em at me and prove my point!


Anonymous
Comment posted October 10, 2009 @ 1:36 am

O_0


Anonymous
Comment posted October 10, 2009 @ 1:38 am

I was going to say don’t give them any ideas, but I want this entertainment to continue!


Anonymous
Comment posted October 10, 2009 @ 1:39 am

LMAO!…thanks…now I have to clean my laptop from the spewed coffee…


Majority Will
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 9:32 pm

You deserve to be mocked ridiculed as often as possible. I wouldn't call you a fat pig. We don't know if you're fat.


Anonymous
Comment posted October 10, 2009 @ 2:43 am

You rightwing clowns would LOVE to co-opt Hendrix & Clapton—-they’d spit in your face if they were here to see you putting words in their mouths
FAIL


ObamacornLies
Comment posted October 10, 2009 @ 2:50 am

Debunked MY ASS! LOLOL

Actually, you should try to get your facts straight first, before you start mouthing off.

Second, Onyango (Barack’s paternal grandfather) married Akuma who was Barack Obama Sr.’s mother, Barack’s “actual” grandmother. Onyango’s third wife was Sarah. HOWEVER since Akuma left the family when her children were still young it is Sarah who is often referred to “by Barack” as his “grandmother.” She was the primary caregiver for Barack Sr. after his mother left.

He refers to her as “GRANNY” and really is the ONLY mother Barack’s father remembered. Barack speaks of her in his book AND she also attended his inaugeration. So, as far as Barack is concerned, THAT is his ONLY grandmother and the only paternal grandmother that he has EVER met!

Yeah, a poor woman living in a hut, where Barack is plastered all over the walls and where he visits, from time to time.

Oh and look, Barack’s Father and Grandfather are buried on the poor woman’s land. How dare them be buried there for ATTENTION and FAME!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cf6qSB6Lt4w


Anonymous
Comment posted October 10, 2009 @ 2:51 am

So your husband is an ANCHOR BABY. Haven’t you seen hate-dwarf Michelle Malkin rail against the travesty of anchor babies on Fox? She thinks your husband is one of the biggest problems in the USA. Take it up with the rage-aholic skank if you have a beef with that sentiment, don’t whine to me about it. Oh, & Lou Dobbs—he badmouths your hubby INCESSANTLY


ObamacornLies
Comment posted October 10, 2009 @ 2:57 am

More proof of a cover up! He was born in two different hospitals in Hawaii, imagine that!

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=103306


RedGraham
Comment posted October 9, 2009 @ 10:23 pm

Neither is birfer.


darthtater
Comment posted October 10, 2009 @ 1:27 am

LMAO!!!!


darthtater
Comment posted October 10, 2009 @ 1:28 am

Routine Court Orders are not even remotely news…


tracyfair
Comment posted October 10, 2009 @ 3:01 am

Well, if I don't announce it, how is everyone gonna know that I am not here to defend myself, as you state are the “rules” of this message board!

lolol


tracyfair
Comment posted October 10, 2009 @ 3:04 am

lolol facts
you guys haven't posted ONE fucking fact here. All you do is call people names, because you have no other answers.

LOLOL


tracyfair
Comment posted October 10, 2009 @ 3:05 am

Oh ok..that was actually your rule. Ummm, like Obama, that was just a lie.

Ahh I get it!


tracyfair
Comment posted October 10, 2009 @ 3:49 am

I Love it!
Hallelujah


tracyfair
Comment posted October 10, 2009 @ 3:49 am

you ranggg???


RedGraham
Comment posted October 10, 2009 @ 5:42 am

Another of my suspicians confirmed.
Obama’s Attorney General, Eric Holder, has apparently hired a cadre of left-wing, Democrat campaign bloggers to troll through the Internet looking for news stories and blog posts that denigrate the Obama agenda. After such websites are found it is the job of these secret lefty bloggers to leave comments that come to the support of Obamaism in the comments sections. It seems that Eric Holder has created his own little propaganda unit in a valiant effort to become the Bloggi Riefenstahl of the Obama era.


littybell
Comment posted October 10, 2009 @ 5:56 am

So now you think people are following you around on the internet! ROFLMAO!!! Have you seen the little “Green Men” yet?


AXJ ROCKS
Comment posted October 10, 2009 @ 6:15 am

Love it…

BATTLE HYMN OF THE UNSINKABLE BIRTHERS!
(Sung to the tune of “The Battle Hymn of? the Republic”)

Mine eyes have not yet seen
Obama's birth certificate.
It is hidden in a vault
Where only God's Right Hand can get.
Obama's C. O. L. B. is a
Lousy counterfeit.
It's truth we're marching for!!!!

Orly! Orly! Hallelujah!!!
Orly! Orly! Hallelujah!!!
Orly! Orly! Hallelujah!!!
It's truth we're marching for!!!!

(Author grants permission to reprint on web or in print and to perform in public)


chrisjay
Comment posted October 10, 2009 @ 6:20 am

One of your extra-chromosome cohorts posted this juvenalia several hours ago, buckwheat
weak


chrisjay
Comment posted October 10, 2009 @ 6:25 am

Yes Red, we are here. You are surrounded. We are paid Holder operatives and our marching orders are to beat you down whenever and wherever—–My master did not warn me, however, how easy and feeble our prey would prove to be. All I have to do is lift a buttcheek & out slips a rejoinder which easily smacks your weak drivel to the carpet.
I love my job


RedGraham
Comment posted October 10, 2009 @ 7:14 am

Typical Holder-ordered, AC0RN-paid, M0VE0N.org, messages are just a bunch of infantile insults like “you are an idiot” or “that bleach-blond Taitz is crazy” or “Keyes is a sore loser” or “Pat Boone is a has-been” or “birfers are just a bunch of racists” or “Chuck Norris has been hit in the head a lot”. Sad part is some of these antibirfers are so gullible they post this stuff gratis. My posts are entirely for the purpose of keeping the BC issue going so, perhaps in January, the truth gets put on display. Then The Great Usurper will become a part of our past, our nation will be saved and justice will be served.


msdaisy
Comment posted October 10, 2009 @ 12:22 pm

I looked into my crystal ball and I see the future. Next week Judge Carter will toss Orly and her case out to the garbage heap where all the other Birther cases have gone. Orly will then demand Judge Carter resign or be removed, call him an idiot accuse him of treason and accuse “the Obama brown shirts” of conspiracy (and everyone else who opposes her) and manipulating the courts. Followed by probably calling (yet again) for the military to openly revolt and remove the imposter BO by force. She will probably go on such a high pitched babbling rant in the courtroom that the Judge will charge her with contempt and (hopefully) throw her ass in jail, and or have her disbarred just like that assistant of hers.

Shall we wait and see???


thesheriffsani
Comment posted October 10, 2009 @ 2:58 pm

No, Red, you're posting because you still have your stars 'n bars panties in a bunch that the American people can and did elect an uppity negro with a funny name as President of our United States of America. Obama will still be President in January, and the January after that, and the January after that, and, well, probably the January after that if the GOP keeps ridin' the crazy train. Book it.


thesheriffsani
Comment posted October 10, 2009 @ 2:58 pm

I'm sorry, I can't hear anything over the loud whistling of Dixie in the background.


msdaisy
Comment posted October 10, 2009 @ 5:06 pm

Bingo! An uppity “Muslim” Negro in the crusty old white guy only White House. Yep, that about sums it up right there.


RedGraham
Comment posted October 10, 2009 @ 5:44 pm

Like I posted previously. I voted for negro Alan Keyes who is considerably more black than the Obama. I would have been proud to see Colin Powell or Condi Rice in the Oval Office. In fact I was happy to see the Obama get the nomination over Hellary. But then I found out the Obama is actually a Kenyan-born Brit who became an Indonesian-moslem named Barry Soetoro. You can't hide the truth forever and the Obama kool-aid drinkers better come up with some more fake documents by Jan.26.


thesheriffsani
Comment posted October 10, 2009 @ 5:48 pm

And some of your best friends are uppity negroes too.

Oh, and Obama will still be President on the 27th granted that a Birfer, Al Qaeda, or the swine flu doesn't get him first. You can bet on it.


Doubtful
Comment posted October 10, 2009 @ 5:53 pm

Jan. 26th? Like in your dreams there's going to be a trial?

Hey, wanna bet on that? I could use some extra cash.


chrisjay
Comment posted October 11, 2009 @ 6:40 pm

It's just a matter of time now, before Orly files a complaint against herself———or should I say, one of her selves…


chrisjay
Comment posted October 11, 2009 @ 6:42 pm

Wait: first I'm accused of being a whore paid by Holder to post here, then I'm ridiculed for doing it for free?
You people are all over the rubber room, aren't 'cha?


msdaisy
Comment posted October 11, 2009 @ 7:32 pm

Yea, wouldn't you like to see her try to take that to court! ROFLMAO


Antibirther
Comment posted October 11, 2009 @ 9:56 pm

Didn't you get your check yet?


Steve_X
Comment posted October 11, 2009 @ 10:07 pm

My guess is that since she's lost so many cases, she'll accuse herself of being a brownshirt because she can't get Obama removed from office. It makes no sense to a sane person, but in the Orlyverse anything is possible.

Well, anything except meeting the burden of proof.


Irish_Wake
Comment posted October 11, 2009 @ 11:07 pm

What evidence supports the accusation 'Kenyan-born Brit who became an Indonesian-Moslem'?


AXJ ROCKS
Comment posted October 11, 2009 @ 11:29 pm

My crystal ball says Judge Carter is going to trial…will be fun…


Anteni
Comment posted October 12, 2009 @ 4:56 am

So you voted for Alan Keyes. Quite interesting now I understand why you are supporting the birther movement. It has absolutely to due with the merits of the case, but your beliefs in Alan Keyes lies. Alan Keyes seems to be one of the must jealous men in America. Have a politician defeat you for one of the two Chicago seats in the US Senate. Then having that person go one to become President of US, while never securing a single elected office.

PS. we don't call them “negro”


Anteni
Comment posted October 12, 2009 @ 5:21 am

Scared??? The entire birther movement is about fear. The fear to accept that the Obama won the election. So, instead of engaging in meaningful debate, they engage in fearmongering and spreading lies.

There is a difference between fact and opinion. There is an importance of integrity in the public debate. There is an importance of doing research on a topic to determine its validity.

Instead birthers engaging is misinformation, ignoring of facts, and accepting obvious deceptions.


Anteni
Comment posted October 12, 2009 @ 5:27 am

The reason is obvious, you took a paint brush and wrote the words “Judge Carter is going to trail.” No, it has been fun watching birthers lose their grip on reality, while AXJ and WND continue to feed their paranoia.


ObamacornLies
Comment posted October 12, 2009 @ 5:38 am

Yeah Right. The only fear, is that you Obamacorn lovers have a 50/50 thought in your mind, that we “might” just be right, don't ya. You put the Kenya certificate up and the other piece of crap next to it and ask which one is MORE legit.

There is not one lie that us here, FOR ORLY have posted. Everything is backed up with facts. So why don't YOU go check them first, before you start calling others liars, LIAR!

There is a huge difference between fact and opinion and I suggest you read the comments here and find out the FACT! Das right, do your research and you will see that out FACTS are TRUE!

Your whole comment up this is total misinformation, ignoring the facts and deceptions. POT KETTLE BLACK, I'd say…


ObamacornLies
Comment posted October 12, 2009 @ 5:41 am

Glenn Rulesssssssssss!


ObamacornLies
Comment posted October 12, 2009 @ 5:43 am

Hey Gun Totin, ya better hold onto that gun ya got there, Mr. Wonderful is trying to take them all away. They are already working on it!

Whacha gonna do when they come fer you…bad boys, bad boys


msdaisy
Comment posted October 12, 2009 @ 12:51 pm

Okay, Monday morning, wonder if the batshit will hit the fan today? Lets think about what possible charges Judge Carter will slap Orly with. Barratry, contempt of court, making false accusations, multiple ethics violations including accusing all the Supreme Court Justices, all the members of the House and the Senate, the Attorney General and the POTUS of treason. Then there is incitement and openly calling for the violent overthrow of the entire US government, slander, making threats of legal action against anyone that opposes her, and practicing law outside her jurisdiction, just to name a few.

She’ll probably be hit with all of the above, and then some!


Doubtful
Comment posted October 12, 2009 @ 12:57 pm

msdaisy, I don't doubt any of it, except –

It's Columbus Day. Maybe it will happen tomorrow!


msdaisy
Comment posted October 12, 2009 @ 2:11 pm

Damn, brain fart! I needed to go to the post office today too, and was in fact getting ready to go. Thanks!


Majority Will
Comment posted October 12, 2009 @ 7:12 pm

I know you’re too stupid to understand plain English so get someone to explain the following transcript to you.

MCRAE: When I come in December. I would like to come by the place, the hospital, where he was born. Could you tell me where he was born? Was he born in Mombasa?

OGOMBE: No, Obama was not born in Mombasa. He was born in America.

MCRAE: Whereabouts was he born? I thought he was born in Kenya.

OGOMBE: No, he was born in America, not in Mombasa.

MCRAE: Do you know where he was born? I thought he was born in Kenya. I was going to go by and see where he was born.

OGOMBE: Hawaii. Hawaii. Sir, she says he was born in Hawaii. In the state of Hawaii, where his father was also learning, there. The state of Hawaii.


Majority Will
Comment posted October 12, 2009 @ 7:14 pm

MCRAE: When I come in December. I would like to come by the place, the hospital, where he was born. Could you tell me where he was born? Was he born in Mombasa?

OGOMBE: No, Obama was not born in Mombasa. He was born in America.

MCRAE: Whereabouts was he born? I thought he was born in Kenya.

OGOMBE: No, he was born in America, not in Mombasa.

MCRAE: Do you know where he was born? I thought he was born in Kenya. I was going to go by and see where he was born.

OGOMBE: Hawaii. Hawaii. Sir, she says he was born in Hawaii. In the state of Hawaii, where his father was also learning, there. The state of Hawaii.


Majority Will
Comment posted October 12, 2009 @ 7:16 pm

http://search.freefind.com/find.html?id=4669786&pageid=r&mode=ALL&n=0&_charset_=&bcd=÷&query=worldnetdaily

The many, many lies and libel of Whirled Nut Daily.


chrisjay
Comment posted October 12, 2009 @ 4:37 pm

My crystal ball foretells a competency hearing in Orly's near future..


chrisjay
Comment posted October 12, 2009 @ 4:58 pm

I think the last time I have heard blacks referred to as Negro might have been by Archie Bunker in the '70's


Majority Will
Comment posted October 12, 2009 @ 7:08 pm

You're insignificant and pathetic. There's your fear, Tracy.


captainsteve
Comment posted October 12, 2009 @ 9:14 pm

The above smear message is paid for by the obama’s paid propaganda team.

Notice to all. . .The “frequent posters” here work directly for obama (via fight-the-smears or the like). It’s pretty obvious once you start to see how predictable they are. They NEVER accept the validity of any statement (no matter how true) that doesn’t fit their marching orders.

It’s a total waste of time to “argue” with them. They aren’t looking for truth or understanding. They’re just trying to knock down obama dissent, and keep lies in play such as, “obama’s mom was a citizen, so he’s natural born.”

http://www.publiusforum.com/2009/10/07/the-obam…

If there wasn't anything to the citizenship issue, Obummer wouldn't be hiring thuggish bloggers to smear those who question. That’s about the same as the Black Panthers Obama posted outside polling places. We are dealing with a thugocracy!

They can see the obama charade collapsing; they are out in one last-ditch effort with every finger and toe in the dike; their fear is maxed out; they are $hitting in their pants! They are the “Custer’s Last Stand” or “Baghdad Bob” of the failed obama era!

Keep up the pressure, but stay out of the way when the dike ruptures! Fail fraud TOTUS fail!

OBAMA, STOP HIDING. SHOW US THE LONG FORM BIRTH CERTIFICATE AND YOUR OTHER RECORDS!!!!!

HOPE-for-CHANGE


captainsteve
Comment posted October 12, 2009 @ 9:15 pm

The above smear message is paid for by the obama’s paid propaganda team.

Notice to all. . .The “frequent posters” here work directly for obama (via fight-the-smears or the like). It’s pretty obvious once you start to see how predictable they are. They NEVER accept the validity of any statement (no matter how true) that doesn’t fit their marching orders.

It’s a total waste of time to “argue” with them. They aren’t looking for truth or understanding. They’re just trying to knock down obama dissent, and keep lies in play such as, “obama’s mom was a citizen, so he’s natural born.”

http://www.publiusforum.com/2009/10/07/the-obam…

If there wasn't anything to the citizenship issue, Obummer wouldn't be hiring thuggish bloggers to smear those who question. That’s about the same as the Black Panthers Obama posted outside polling places. We are dealing with a thugocracy!

They can see the obama charade collapsing; they are out in one last-ditch effort with every finger and toe in the dike; their fear is maxed out; they are $hitting in their pants! They are the “Custer’s Last Stand” or “Baghdad Bob” of the failed obama era!

Keep up the pressure, but stay out of the way when the dike ruptures! Fail fraud TOTUS fail!

OBAMA, STOP HIDING. SHOW US THE LONG FORM BIRTH CERTIFICATE AND YOUR OTHER RECORDS!!!!!

HOPE-for-CHANGE


captainsteve
Comment posted October 12, 2009 @ 9:15 pm

The above smear message is paid for by the obama’s paid propaganda team.

Notice to all. . .The “frequent posters” here work directly for obama (via fight-the-smears or the like). It’s pretty obvious once you start to see how predictable they are. They NEVER accept the validity of any statement (no matter how true) that doesn’t fit their marching orders.

It’s a total waste of time to “argue” with them. They aren’t looking for truth or understanding. They’re just trying to knock down obama dissent, and keep lies in play such as, “obama’s mom was a citizen, so he’s natural born.”

http://www.publiusforum.com/2009/10/07/the-obam…

If there wasn't anything to the citizenship issue, Obummer wouldn't be hiring thuggish bloggers to smear those who question. That’s about the same as the Black Panthers Obama posted outside polling places. We are dealing with a thugocracy!

They can see the obama charade collapsing; they are out in one last-ditch effort with every finger and toe in the dike; their fear is maxed out; they are $hitting in their pants! They are the “Custer’s Last Stand” or “Baghdad Bob” of the failed obama era!

Keep up the pressure, but stay out of the way when the dike ruptures! Fail fraud TOTUS fail!

OBAMA, STOP HIDING. SHOW US THE LONG FORM BIRTH CERTIFICATE AND YOUR OTHER RECORDS!!!!!

HOPE-for-CHANGE


RedGraham
Comment posted October 12, 2009 @ 9:19 pm

Foriegn-born Dr. Taitz is holding her own against the most powerful man in the world. Sounds like she's pretty competent to me. I mean hey the guy won a Nobel prize so he can pay his lawyers or donate to his benefactor-ACORN.


chrisjay
Comment posted October 12, 2009 @ 11:15 pm

“Orly holding her own”
reminds me of the man falling from the highrise skyscraper:
3/4 of the way down he starts to relax a little & says to himself “so far, so good”


Anonymous
Comment posted October 13, 2009 @ 5:41 am

“There is a huge difference between facts and opinion..” Yes, spacey, and an even LARGER difference between fact & fiction.
I just heard Ron Reagan field this question from a caller: “So you don’t think Fox News is fair & balanced?”
Ron’s answer:”I don’t think it’s news!”
Same applies to your “facts” AND opinions.


ObamacornLies
Comment posted October 13, 2009 @ 6:03 am

You won’t be saying that once the usurper is gone. I can’t wait for that day!


ObamacornLies
Comment posted October 13, 2009 @ 6:06 am

Bafoony


ObamacornLies
Comment posted October 13, 2009 @ 6:08 am

When he’s brought down, you will see the proof!
Obamacorn is shaking in his boots right now!


ObamacornLies
Comment posted October 13, 2009 @ 6:17 am

So, you agree that the McRae interview is REAL, right?

Well, you actually forgot the first part, where she says he is from Kenya and was there when he was born. Funny how you cut off the beginning of the interview.

Typical

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGWcD5OHm08&feature=related

hahahah LIARS!


ObamacornLies
Comment posted October 13, 2009 @ 6:23 am

If it was a total forgery, Judge Carter would have already thrown this out of court. Obama’s lawyers are fighting to dismiss for technical reasons because they can not let this get into court or he will be busted!

Oh, I can’t wait til the day!


ObamacornLies
Comment posted October 13, 2009 @ 6:25 am

Get back under the fridge…


ObamacornLies
Comment posted October 13, 2009 @ 6:45 am

pond scum, your man is goin downnnnn


ObamacornLies
Comment posted October 13, 2009 @ 6:45 am

yap yap yap

boringgggggggg


ObamacornLies
Comment posted October 13, 2009 @ 6:45 am

stalking, uhh yeah…that’s it


littybell
Comment posted October 13, 2009 @ 2:46 am

So whose fault will it be when the jude throws the case out? GO ahead and start your counter argument early so all the bases are covered.


borderraven
Comment posted October 13, 2009 @ 3:09 am

Motion taken under submission.

Translation: The court will think about it over the weekend, see ya Tuesday.
.


ObamacornLies
Comment posted October 13, 2009 @ 5:37 am

You got it!


ObamacornLies
Comment posted October 13, 2009 @ 5:39 am

Wow, I'm surprised you accepted that Columbus Day post, they didn't even PROVE it! We show you loads of things WITH PROOF and you believe none of it.

Get a life!


ObamacornLies
Comment posted October 13, 2009 @ 5:44 am

You guys act so sure of yourselves that this is going to be thrown out. It's the same ARROGANCE that Obama had, try to get the olympics in Chicago. The idiots even admitted they already purchased the grounds for the village…LOLOL

That was so fuckin funny when they were dumped, in round one.

Man that was classic seeing all the people faces in Chicago, they were like Huuuuuh? Duhhhhh? We don't rule the world, huuuuhhh?

IDIOTS!


ObamacornLies
Comment posted October 13, 2009 @ 5:47 am

Democrats are losing bigtime in 2010, watch and see.

This is gonna be great to watch the walls come tumbling down!


ObamacornLies
Comment posted October 13, 2009 @ 5:49 am

Look around the facts are all over!


ObamacornLies
Comment posted October 13, 2009 @ 5:50 am

Womp womp womp, watch and see!


ObamacornLies
Comment posted October 13, 2009 @ 5:54 am

You wish that's all it was. Cause if that were the case then there would be nothing we could do about it, they would call it racial and be done with it. But, consideing there is much more, including felony criminal activity and total outright lies about policy and all the acorn connections, HE GOING DOWN! No question about it!

It will all be out very soon and you all will look like total idiots. Sheep following the herd, with no mind of their own!


ObamacornLies
Comment posted October 13, 2009 @ 5:57 am

You wish you could smack someone down. You certainly ain't done it here. You brag and brag about slapping people down and I see is you calling people names. We put facts right in your face and you disregard it as lies. We know you really see the truth, you are just forced by your shepherd to follow the rules…sucks to be a slave for Obama, don't it?

lolol


ObamacornLies
Comment posted October 13, 2009 @ 5:58 am

Why, you thought someone was following YOU around. Oh no, they are stalking me…

wah wah wah, lame ass liars!


ObamacornLies
Comment posted October 13, 2009 @ 6:00 am

Ya think? I beg to differ!
Mark my words!

He will be thrown out on his ass and back to Kenya or Indonesia. He last had an Indonesian passport, so maybe he will be deported back to there.


Anteni
Comment posted October 13, 2009 @ 6:14 am

Everything is a smear for you. Didn't I read this exact same comment else where. Stevie you just don't know what a smear campaign is. What you are engaging in is a smear campaign. However, nobody who believe in finding the truth believes your nonsense.

I can see your fingers loosing grip on reality.


Anteni
Comment posted October 13, 2009 @ 6:17 am

News flash. That wasn't a comment. It is a cut and past just. Just search a little lower and you will find the exact same words. You are praising someone who can't even think for themselves.


Anteni
Comment posted October 13, 2009 @ 6:23 am

Get a life! Is that what you are chanting to yourself while you are ignoring the facts?

Let us look at a funny example. A fake birth certificate was found by Orly Taitz, even after it was proven to be fake Orly Taitz submitted as evidence. To birthers conjecture is proof. Forgeries are evidence. Deceptions are arguments.

Yes please continue to chant to yourself “Get a life!”, then maybe you will actually get one. And, just maybe you will be able to accept the facts that we call life.


captainsteve
Comment posted October 13, 2009 @ 6:31 am

Wrong as usual. Not everything, but the above smear message is paid for by the obama’s paid propaganda team.


captainsteve
Comment posted October 13, 2009 @ 6:33 am

Thx. They don't like the truth to get out. Just like the don't want the truth out about Obummer's b/c, citizenship, or identity fraud to get out.


captainsteve
Comment posted October 13, 2009 @ 6:37 am

“Themselves” is plural, idiot. The correct term would be “himself.” Don't lecture others when you're a moron.


msdaisy
Comment posted October 13, 2009 @ 9:07 am

There “is” nothing you can do about it you dumb ass. Obama is the rightfully elected POTUS. And none of your fantasies are ever going to take him down. Deal with it!


ObamacornLies
Comment posted October 13, 2009 @ 2:07 pm

How have you proven the one from Kenya is FAKE. Where is your proof? Just because you say it's FAKE, don't make it so. ACTAULLY, top forgery experts have said the the Hawaii one is a forgery. NO THOSE ARE THE FACTS!

Get it right next time!


ObamacornLies
Comment posted October 13, 2009 @ 2:08 pm

Here's all the proof anyone needs. Read it and wake up!
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs…


ObamacornLies
Comment posted October 13, 2009 @ 2:10 pm

Yeah, that's what you are hopin…lol
He's goin down!


Irish_Wake
Comment posted October 13, 2009 @ 3:21 pm

Good point.
Removing a posted image of a birth certificate from the Web proves President Obama is (insert conclusion here).
What else could it possibly mean?
I bet the court that dismissed this case feels foolish now!
I bet the court that fined Ms. Taitz $20k for 'wasting judicial resources' feels foolish, too! http://www.scribd.com/doc/20996403/Gov-uscourts…


Irish_Wake
Comment posted October 13, 2009 @ 3:40 pm

The court summarily dismissed Ms. Taitz' first birther suit. This is proof.
The same court has levied a $20k fine for wasting the time of the defendant and court. This is proof.

In our judicial system, evidence accepted in federal court is usually given greater weight than stuff written on a blog.


Antibirther
Comment posted October 13, 2009 @ 4:03 pm

I bet that Judge Carter is reading Judge Land's smackdown of Orly right now.


Majority Will
Comment posted October 13, 2009 @ 4:55 pm

“Alan Keyes: My Birther Lawsuit Will Proceed”

But in the real world, it will be tossed out of court like all of the other frivolous lawsuits.


Majority Will
Comment posted October 13, 2009 @ 4:56 pm

Logic and reason is wasted on lonely, pathetic Tracy.


Antibirther
Comment posted October 13, 2009 @ 5:04 pm

“top forgery experts”

LOL stop, you're killing me! LOL LOL LOL


captainsteve
Comment posted October 13, 2009 @ 5:05 pm

Obama is a fraud. 25 fake SS#'s? Honest people only have one. His crimes will be revealed in time. Just wait.


Doubtful
Comment posted October 13, 2009 @ 5:08 pm

LOL, Sammy, you still expect your OMG moment!

What's wrong, Judge Land doubling Orly's fine wasn't enough for you?


BigGuy
Comment posted October 13, 2009 @ 5:19 pm

Hey, I have an idea! You name the “top forgery experts” who say the COLB is fake and I'll name the Hawaiian officials who say it's not.

Then we'll compare their expertise and credentials.

OK? Sound fair to you?


Irish_Wake
Comment posted October 13, 2009 @ 5:19 pm

Mr. Lies is Tracy the Fair?
By the way, the Cap'n says we are paid propagandists. Are we on piecework, or hourly? And should we file timesheets?


captainsteve
Comment posted October 13, 2009 @ 5:32 pm

Why not?

81% in AOL poll want to see the long-form.

see the poll here.

http://www.politicsdaily.com/2009/07/24/hot-sea…

Only an Obummer cult-follower, that knows he's a fraud, would want to keep the long-form hidden.

HOPE-for-CHANGE


Doubtful
Comment posted October 13, 2009 @ 5:39 pm

Read Judge Land's decision. He explains it very well, and most of us have no problem understanding it.

Maybe you should read it a couple of times.


ObamacornLies
Comment posted October 13, 2009 @ 5:44 pm

hahaha BigBuy, we all know what that means…

little penis


ObamacornLies
Comment posted October 13, 2009 @ 5:48 pm

lololol


ObamacornLies
Comment posted October 13, 2009 @ 5:49 pm

can I borrow that comment…lol


ObamacornLies
Comment posted October 13, 2009 @ 5:49 pm

The above smear message is paid for by the obama’s paid propaganda team.

Notice to all. . .The “frequent posters” here work directly for obama (via fight-the-smears or the like). It’s pretty obvious once you start to see how predictable they are. They NEVER accept the validity of any statement (no matter how true) that doesn’t fit their marching orders.

It’s a total waste of time to “argue” with them. They aren’t looking for truth or understanding. They’re just trying to knock down obama dissent, and keep lies in play such as, “obama’s mom was a citizen, so he’s natural born.”

http://www.publiusforum.com/2009/10/07/the-obam

If there wasn't anything to the citizenship issue, Obummer wouldn't be hiring thuggish bloggers to smear those who question. That’s about the same as the Black Panthers Obama posted outside polling places. We are dealing with a thugocracy!

They can see the obama charade collapsing; they are out in one last-ditch effort with every finger and toe in the dike; their fear is maxed out; they are $hitting in their pants! They are the “Custer’s Last Stand” or “Baghdad Bob” of the failed obama era!

Keep up the pressure, but stay out of the way when the dike ruptures! Fail fraud TOTUS fail!

OBAMA, STOP HIDING. SHOW US THE LONG FORM BIRTH CERTIFICATE AND YOUR OTHER RECORDS!!!!!

HOPE-for-CHANGE


BigGuy
Comment posted October 13, 2009 @ 5:54 pm

Oh, jeez, we've got a real intellectual here. I guess that explains why the other arguments were as stupid as they were.


Antibirther
Comment posted October 13, 2009 @ 6:15 pm

“Judge Land was bought off. “

You're just jealous because no one has come up and offered you big bucks to be in the super cool, secret Obama club.


captainsteve
Comment posted October 13, 2009 @ 7:02 pm

Judge Land is a dishonorable sellout, just like most of Dingle Barry's supporters. Half the country rightfully believes that the truth should be known, and this should be put behind us.

Yet they continue the game of hiding the truth, and ridiculing those who want to know. They are the lowest of low. In them I find the answer to a question I've long asked, “how did Hitler or Manson find mindless cultist followers.” Now I know. I think Barry's crew would have been right there.

It's a sad time for goodness in the world, especially America.


ArthurB.
Comment posted October 13, 2009 @ 7:16 pm

Judge Land's decision seems perfectly reasonable to me.

Have you read it? Why don't you discuss some of the finer legal points you disagree with?

Maybe that would be more effective than jumping up and down and calling him names.


Irish_Wake
Comment posted October 13, 2009 @ 7:45 pm

“How did Hitler or Manson find mindless cultist followers.”

Priceless.


captainsteve
Comment posted October 13, 2009 @ 8:06 pm

The above smear is provided by the obama’s paid propaganda team.


captainsteve
Comment posted October 13, 2009 @ 8:07 pm

The above smear is provided by the obama’s paid propaganda team.


captainsteve
Comment posted October 13, 2009 @ 8:48 pm

Obama, show your birth certificate!

Should we trust Obama and his online short-form B/C when he has hidden all his other documentation and long-form B/C, and lied about everything else? Here's a few of his lies.

He said:

He was a moderate and would govern from the center.

No new taxes on anyone making less than $250K.

Cap-N-Trade would on cost the amount of a postage stamp per day.

No more Washington as usual.

He said he wrote his own books. Bill Ayres wrote “Dreams.”

No earmarks.

Never used an alias name.

No lobbyists in Cabinet.

He would keep track of the bailout money.

No free health-care for illegals.

No government funding for abortion.

Health-care debate to be broadcast on C-Span.

No programs enacted without having the funding (Pay-Go).

All new bills to be available for public review.

Didn't want to run car company.

Doctors remove kids tonsils just to make more money.

Enact policies to make world safer.

He would not desert Israel.

He would get out of Iraq.

He would close Gitmo.

He would do whatever it took to win in Afghanistan.

He would get Bin Laden.

He said he barely knew William Ayers the domestic terrorist and pentagon bomber.

He said he wouldn’t prosecute the CIA agents re detainee treatment.

He would keep a balanced budget.

No deficit spending.

He would be bi-partisan.

Didn’t really know much about ACORN.

Wouldn't allow government funds to pay for abortions.

Would stop illegal immigration.

His Uncle helped liberate the Auschwitz concentration camp at end of WWII.

No government takeover of health-care.

He would represent ALL Americans.

He also said he was born in Hawaii. Hmmm

Thanks, but I think it’s time to see the LONG-FORM birth certificate, and other records!!!!

HOPE-for-CHANGE


Anonymous
Comment posted October 14, 2009 @ 3:43 am

No not arrogance just knowledge and assurance that Orly has no factual information to prove her case. So go help girlie prove her case stupid!


Anonymous
Comment posted October 14, 2009 @ 3:51 am

What F*ing rule are you talking about!


captainsteve
Comment posted October 13, 2009 @ 11:56 pm

Obummer came to power by circumventing the Constitution and rule of law. His brainwashed masses better realize that it’s you who are in the minority. If Dingle Barry gets away with the scam, everybody will soon enough see that laws no longer have meaning, as it currently is with the corrupt vermin of Ozero’s legacy on the South side of Chicago. The free-for-all will be on. I sure wouldn’t want to be in the minority along with you. You think you can thumb you noses at giant? You better think twice.

People need to wake up and see this Usurper-in-Chief for the lying fraud, America hating, Saudi King bowing, Marxist/Socialist, dictator loving, former cocaine addict, racist Kenyan Chicago thug for who he is!


Anonymous
Comment posted October 14, 2009 @ 5:49 am

Looks like Keyes v. Obama Jan.26th 2010 might be our last best hope. But I know I will give this up only when the truth comes out or they pry my cold dead fingers from the keyboard.
Update: October 9, 2009 This simple question is followed by the text of Article II of the U.S. Constitution. Call it an open book exam . . . please comment with your answers.
Is the son of a British subject born on U.S. soil eligible under the Article II natural born eligibility clause to be President of the United States?
“No Person except a natural born Citizen or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty-five years, and been fourteen years a resident within the United States.” U.S. Const. Art. II, Sec. 1, Cl 4
Update: July 30, 2009 Recent publishing of the Certificate of Live Birth of twins born the day after Barack Obama show Obama’s COLB number indicating a later birth, a higher number. This only supports, circumstantially, my conclusion that Obama’s COLB was from a 338-5 compulsory registration. Obama’s birthdate was earlier, but not produced by a licensed birthing facility. The mother, Stanley Ann Dunham visited the local agent for the health department at a later date to register the birth without a birth certificate.
Secondly, the jurisprudence of challenging ‘prima facie’ evidence is the key reason for demanding Obama’s original 1961 birth registration information. The Hawaii department of vital records either has a birth certificate from a licensed birthing facility, or merely a compulsory record of data from undocumented and unconfirmed sources. (See H.R.S. § 338-5)


Anonymous
Comment posted October 14, 2009 @ 5:49 am

Looks like Keyes v. Obama Jan.26th 2010 might be our last best hope. But I know I will give this up only when the truth comes out or they pry my cold dead fingers from the keyboard.
Update: October 9, 2009 This simple question is followed by the text of Article II of the U.S. Constitution. Call it an open book exam . . . please comment with your answers.
Is the son of a British subject born on U.S. soil eligible under the Article II natural born eligibility clause to be President of the United States?
“No Person except a natural born Citizen or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty-five years, and been fourteen years a resident within the United States.” U.S. Const. Art. II, Sec. 1, Cl 4
Update: July 30, 2009 Recent publishing of the Certificate of Live Birth of twins born the day after Barack Obama show Obama’s COLB number indicating a later birth, a higher number. This only supports, circumstantially, my conclusion that Obama’s COLB was from a 338-5 compulsory registration. Obama’s birthdate was earlier, but not produced by a licensed birthing facility. The mother, Stanley Ann Dunham visited the local agent for the health department at a later date to register the birth without a birth certificate.
Secondly, the jurisprudence of challenging ‘prima facie’ evidence is the key reason for demanding Obama’s original 1961 birth registration information. The Hawaii department of vital records either has a birth certificate from a licensed birthing facility, or merely a compulsory record of data from undocumented and unconfirmed sources. (See H.R.S. § 338-5)


Steve_X
Comment posted October 14, 2009 @ 2:06 am

^ Another of Orly's split personalities is at it again! Run!


Steve_X
Comment posted October 14, 2009 @ 2:10 am

Straight from the forums at World Nut Daily…more spammed talking points!


Steve_X
Comment posted October 14, 2009 @ 2:12 am

Straight from the forums at World Nut Daily…more spammed talking points!


captainsteve
Comment posted October 14, 2009 @ 2:19 am

Obama is a liar. I’ll believe his new promises AFTER he keep some old promises.
Watch this video about his past health-care promises. You’ll see obama lie like a dog in his very own words.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3JKDTBOYKg

JUST SAY NO TO obamaCARE!!!

Original, vault copy birth certificate — Not released — over $1,000,000 spent to conceal — birth certificate — $15.
Certification of Live Birth — Released – probable counterfeit
Admitted British/Kenyan citizenship at birth — Admitted
Hospital of birth — Three hospitals have some claim — 2 in Hawaii 1 in Kenya
Obama/Dunham marriage license — Not released
Obama/Dunham divorce — Not released by Obama — released by independent investigators
Kindergarten records – “lost”
Soetoro/Dunham marriage license — Not released
Soetoro adoption records — Not released
Fransiskus Assisi School School application — not released by Obama — released by independent investigators
Punahou School records — Not released
Soetoro/Dunham divorce – concealed by Obama — released by independent investigators
Selective Service Registration — Released – and proven counterfeit
Occidental College records — Not released
Passport — Not released — investigation witness shot dead
Columbia University records — Not released
Columbia thesis — “Soviet Nuclear Disarmament” – Not released
Harvard College records — Not released
Harvard Law Review articles — None
Illinois Bar Records — Not released.
Medical records — Not released
Illinois State Senate records — None
Illinois State Senate schedule — “Lost”
Law practice client list — Not released
University of Chicago scholarly articles — None


Steve_X
Comment posted October 14, 2009 @ 2:28 am

Straight from the forums at World Nut Daily…more spammed talking points!


RedGraham
Comment posted October 14, 2009 @ 2:54 am

Here's a nice statistic. According to an AOL poll, 85% of all Americans believe that Obama's birth certificate needs to be produced.


ArthurB.
Comment posted October 14, 2009 @ 3:25 am

Here's an even nicer one.

Of the 100 Senators and 435 Members of Congress, every single one of them voted to accept the tally of the Electoral College declaring Barack Obama President of the United States.


captainsteve
Comment posted October 14, 2009 @ 4:38 am

Why I'm not a stupid lefty-loser-libtard.

If a conservative doesn’t like guns, they don’t buy one. If a liberal doesn’t like guns, then no one should have one.

If a conservative is a vegetarian, they don’t eat meat. If a liberal is, they want to ban all meat products for everyone.

If a conservative sees a foreign threat, he thinks about how to defeat his enemy. A liberal wonders how to surrender gracefully and still look good.

If a conservative is homosexual, they quietly enjoy their life. If a liberal is homosexual, they loudly demand legislated respect.

If a black man or Hispanic is conservative, they see themselves as independently successful. Their liberal counterparts see themselves as victims in need of government protection.

If a conservative is down-and-out, he thinks about how to better his situation. A liberal wonders who is going to take care of him.

If a conservative doesn’t like a talk show host, he switches channels. Liberals demand that those they don’t like be shut down.

If a conservative is a non-believer, he doesn’t go to church. A liberal wants all churches to be silenced.

If a conservative decides he needs health care, he goes about shopping for it, or may choose a job that provides it. A liberal demands that his neighbors pay for his.


captainsteve
Comment posted October 14, 2009 @ 7:21 pm

Does Dingle Barry act guilty?

When a car is pulled over by a cop. A normal honest person pulls over and shows their license. Simple.

Criminals will engage in all manner of tricks and evasions to to keep the truth from being known. The more energetic the evasion, the more serious the likely crime.

It's pretty obvious which behavior obummer has chosen. He's GUILTY!!!


ArthurB.
Comment posted October 14, 2009 @ 7:38 pm

Now, Sammy, explain that analogy, would you? Are you saying that President Obama has disobeyed a lawful order from a law enforcement official?

Cause gee, if he did, I would agree with you.

But I bet you're making the whole thing up!


captainsteve
Comment posted October 14, 2009 @ 8:12 pm

Don't be a fool. The key is the vigorousness of his evasion. The conclusion is obvious. He's a fraud.


ArthurB.
Comment posted October 14, 2009 @ 8:27 pm

Nope, you're the fool. Your implication was that he was evading a legal order.

If he's just evading the harassment of wingnuts like you, I applaud his “vigorousness.”


BigGuy
Comment posted October 14, 2009 @ 9:30 pm

Oh, OK, then the problem was with your analogy.

It's not like being asked for your driver's license by a cop.

It's more like being asked for your driver's license by a derelict lurking at a gas station.

Yes, I think vigorous evasion is absolutely the correct response!


captainsteve
Comment posted October 14, 2009 @ 11:20 pm

Like I care what you think. You're nothing to me. Be gone slime.


ArthurB.
Comment posted October 14, 2009 @ 11:32 pm

Oh my, Sammy, I must be upsetting you.

I wonder, could that OMG shoe be on the other foot?


captainsteve
Comment posted October 14, 2009 @ 11:48 pm

You know nothing, Scum.


ArthurB.
Comment posted October 14, 2009 @ 11:51 pm

Poor Mensa Man. Pathetic and defeated.


captainsteve
Comment posted October 15, 2009 @ 12:04 am

The Ofraud’s supporters love to trot out newspaper ads as proof. We’ll here’s an article from Nairobi Kenya’s newspaper, the East African Standard, about Obummer’s Kenyan birth. This was in 2004 before Bill Ayers and his radical left buddies began re-engineering him and scrubbing the internet for evidence of his true background.

http://web.archive.org/web/20040627142700/easta…

.


captainsteve
Comment posted October 15, 2009 @ 5:08 am

AP News item. Barry was born in Kenya.

Here’s an article from Nairobi Kenya’s newspaper, the East African Standard, about Obummer’s Kenyan birth. This was in 2004 before Bill Ayers and his radical left buddies began re-engineering him and scrubbing the internet for evidence of his true background. The Ofraud’s supporters love to trot out newspaper ads as proof. Here’s the real deal. AP News verified!

http://web.archive.org/web/20040627142700/easta…

.


captainsteve
Comment posted October 15, 2009 @ 5:12 am

Your new name is Herpes. You're like a bad disease that doesn't go away. How appropriate. Although I might be doing you a favor, cuz Arthur is an extremely lame name.


AXJ ROCKS
Comment posted October 15, 2009 @ 5:47 am

Party is over for OBAMA.

Obama Born In Kenya According To 2004 News Article

Apparently OBAMA supporters now have a lot of explaining to do to Judge Carter, Orly Taitz ( which is presenting it to him as we write ), and the rest of the AMERICAN PEOPLE:

http://axj.puntoforo.com/viewtopic.php?t=2827

http://web.archive.org/web/20040627142700/easta…

Sunday, June 27, 2004

Kenyan-born Obama all set for US Senate

Kenyan-born US Senate hopeful, Barrack Obama, appeared set to take over the Illinois Senate seat after his main rival, Jack Ryan, dropped out of the race on Friday night amid a furor over lurid sex club allegations.

The allegations that horrified fellow Republicans and caused his once-promising candidacy to implode in four short days have given Obama a clear lead as Republicans struggled to fetch an alternative.

Ryan’s campaign began to crumble on Monday following the release of embarrassing records from his divorce. In the records, his ex-wife, Boston Public actress Jeri Ryan, said her former husband took her to kinky sex clubs in Paris, New York and New Orleans.

nh-obama.jpg (12114 bytes)
Barrack Obama

“It’s clear to me that a vigorous debate on the issues most likely could not take place if I remain in the race,” Ryan, 44, said in a statement. “What would take place, rather, is a brutal, scorched-earth campaign – the kind of campaign that has turned off so many voters, the kind of politics I refuse to play.”

Although Ryan disputed the allegations, saying he and his wife went to one ‘avant-garde’ club in Paris and left because they felt uncomfortable, lashed out at the media and said it was “truly outrageous” that the Chicago Tribune got a judge to unseal the records.

The Republican choice will become an instant underdog in the campaign for the seat of retiring Republican Senator Peter Fitzgerald, since Obama held a wide lead even before the scandal broke.

“I feel for him actually,” Obama told a Chicago TV station. “What he’s gone through over the last three days I think is something you wouldn’t wish on anybody.”

The Republican state committee must now choose a replacement for Ryan, who had won in the primaries against seven contenders. Its task is complicated by the fact that Obama holds a comfortable lead in the polls and is widely regarded as a rising Democratic star.

The chairwoman of the Illinois Republican Party, Judy Topinka, said at a news conference, after Ryan withdrew, that Republicans would probably take several weeks to settle on a new candidate.

“Obviously, this is a bad week for our party and our state,” she said.

As recently as Thursday, spokesmen for the Ryan campaign still insisted that Ryan would remain in the race. Ryan had defended himself saying, “There’s no breaking of any laws. There’s no breaking of any marriage laws. There’s no breaking of the Ten Commandments anywhere.”

—AP


RedGraham
Comment posted October 15, 2009 @ 6:56 am

Joan Swirsky writes that Douglas Hagmann, in an interview with Dr. Laurie Roth, revealed, “The reason for the media blackout about [Obama's] birth-certificate issue was nothing less than organized Mafia-like dire threats to members of the media, issued not only from the heads of major TV and radio stations, but also from Federal Communication Commission officials. According to Hagmann and [his investigative partner] Judi McCleod, who conducted a nine-month investigation and documented their findings scrupulously,” threats were made to fire major talk-show hosts if they mentioned Obama's birth certificate, threats were made by FCC officials to yank broadcasting licenses, and memos were circulated by corporate TV headquarters to all on-air employees advising them not to mention the birth-certificate issue, his lawyer's license or his college records.(“Who is behind quashing the birth-certificate issue?”; Aug. 26, 2009; RenewAmerica.com )
SEE Mychal Massie article: Globalists cover-up Hiding Obama's Past
ALSO: the 2004 Illinois newspaper article claiming a “Kenyan-born candidate for U.S. Senate” was running instead of Ryan.


chrisjay
Comment posted October 15, 2009 @ 7:46 pm

Omigosh: I guess that makes Rush Limbaugh the bravest man in the history of the universe for chronically making birth certificate jokes on his show.
Silly me, I thought he was just a run-of-the-mill shock jock when in reality he's a freakin' superpatriothero for spitting in the face of such solemn threats and going about his Obama-bashing undeterred
same as Beck
same as Savage/weiner
same as dodderin' Lou Dobbs
same as Mann Coulter
so brave, to flip the bird to the Mafia, each & every one of them


captainsteve
Comment posted October 15, 2009 @ 8:12 pm

Does Dingle Barry act guilty?

If a driver happens upon a DWI road-stop, a normal honest sober person says sure and shows their license. Very simple. Issue over. But not Barry, he would get twenty attorneys, claim some manner of special privacy privilege, and resist every effort to get him to comply. Why would anybody fight so hard to hide the truth?

Criminals engage in all manner of tricks and evasions to keep the truth from being known. Generally, the more dramatic and energetic the evasion, the more serious the likely crime.

It's pretty obvious which behavior obummer has chosen. He's GUILTY!!!


ArthurB.
Comment posted October 15, 2009 @ 8:25 pm

LOL, Sammy, that's cut and pasted from what you wrote yesterday! OMG!!!

In case you forgot, my response was:
____

Now, Sammy, explain that analogy, would you? Are you saying that President Obama has disobeyed a lawful order from a law enforcement official?

Cause gee, if he did, I would agree with you.

But I bet you're making the whole thing up!
___

Do you want to repeat the whole exchange? You ended up sounding pretty lame last time around!


BigGuy
Comment posted October 15, 2009 @ 8:39 pm

Now, with all apologies to Arthur, I like my answer better.

If a driver happens upon a derelict lurking at a gas station and the derelict demands to see his driver's license, I wonder what's going to happen?

Chances are the driver's going to pay no more attention to the derelict than our President is paying to you.


Sashland
Comment posted October 16, 2009 @ 3:59 am

Does that mean they are untrue?


captainsteve
Comment posted October 16, 2009 @ 4:11 am

More evidence of Dingle Barry's Kenyan birth.

http://allafrica.com/stories/200802180051.html

Wake up people! Obummer is nothing but a Usurper-in-Chief, lying fraud, America hating, Saudi King bowing, Marxist/Socialist, dictator loving, former cocaine addict, Muslim racist puppet Indonesian Kenyan Chicago thug!

OBAMA, STOP HIDING. SHOW US THE LONG FORM BIRTH CERTIFICATE AND YOUR OTHER RECORDS!!!!!

HOPE-for-CHANGE


captainsteve
Comment posted October 16, 2009 @ 5:14 am

More evidence of Dingle Barry's Kenyan birth.

http://allafrica.com/stories/200802180051.html

http://www.nigerianobservernews.com/4112008/411…

http://web.archive.org/web/20040627142700/easta…

http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2006/…

Wake up people! Obummer is nothing but a Usurper-in-Chief, lying fraud, America hating, Saudi King bowing, Marxist/Socialist, dictator loving, former cocaine addict, Muslim racist puppet Indonesian Kenyan Chicago thug!

OBAMA, STOP HIDING. SHOW US THE LONG FORM BIRTH CERTIFICATE AND YOUR OTHER RECORDS!!!!!

HOPE-for-CHANGE


RedGraham
Comment posted October 16, 2009 @ 5:24 am

Then there's this exerpt.
Big Issue | Financial Standard | Maddo | Pulse | Style | Society
Sunday, June 27, 2004
Kenyan-born Obama all set for US Senate
Kenyan-born US Senate hopeful, Barrack Obama, appeared set to take over the Illinois Senate seat after his main rival, Jack Ryan, dropped out of the race on Friday night amid a furor over lurid sex club allegations.
The allegations that horrified fellow Republicans and caused his once-promising candidacy to implode in four short days have given Obama a clear lead as Republicans struggled to fetch an alternative.
Ryan’s campaign began to crumble on Monday following the release of embarrassing records from his divorce. In the records, his ex-wife, Boston Public actress Jeri Ryan, said her former husband took her to kinky sex clubs in Paris, New York and New Orleans.


RedGraham
Comment posted October 16, 2009 @ 8:08 am

When I joined the United States Marine Corps and later the Nat'l Guard I had to show my original long form birth certificate.
When I became a police officer I had to show my original long form birth certificate.
I didn't point Army officials to some website with a jpeg image of what “appears” to be a certification of live birth document. Which by the way, is NOT valid evidence in any court of law that I know of.
Additionally, I didn't hire Perkins Coie to fight release of said long form and I didn't send DOJ lawyers to do the same thing.
If every soldier has to provide the original bc then the Commander in Chief should follow the same rules. that is unless he has something to hide.
Obama is hiding something.


msdaisy
Comment posted October 16, 2009 @ 10:35 am

Let me answer something for all you bird brained Birthers. You continually ask to be shown the LONG FORM. There are three reasons you will never see that. 1. The BC that Obama has already produced IS in fact a legal State issued BC. 2. It has already been verified by the State of Hawaii as authentic and accepted by the US Government as valid. PERIOD. And 3rd, even if Obama DID produce all the hospital records of his birth from the moment his mother entered the hospital to the time of her discharge with baby Barrack, every single one of you without exception would claim that all the documents were forgeries, so what would be the point? GET IT! It would be pointless because you people are just like the witch hunters of Salem Mass.

Your delusional “evidence” is nothing but wild accusations and insanity. Orly and the rest of you are certifiable! Judge Carter is no more going to take this shit to court than Judge Land did and every one of you are headed for a huge disappointment when he boots this crap out of his courtroom. And Orly is steadily on her way to either jail for contempt or to disbarment or both.

Now I’m sorry to say I won’t be around to watch the fun for the next couple of days, I have to go out of town, and just in case Judge Carter issues his slap down before I get back just let me say in advance; “I told you so!”

Have fun, see you Sunday!

Daisy


captainsteve
Comment posted October 16, 2009 @ 4:34 pm

Obama defenders don't want to seek or admit the truth. Obama’s story includes three different hospitals.

1) He said in his book “Dreams from his Father” that he found his birth certificate. Hawaii said they have it. Lets see it!

2) Stop the legal blockade; authorize Hawaii to release whatever they have.

The factcheck COLB has been questioned for many reasons.

OBAMA VERY LIKELY IS COMITTING THE BIGGEST FRAUD OF ALL TIME!!!


captainsteve
Comment posted October 16, 2009 @ 5:36 pm

More proof of a coordinated Obama citizenship/background cover-up, and the Honolulu Advertiser newspaper is part of it.

For days I’ve been posting the following news article where Tammy Duckworth, who claimed to know Obama well (and now on the payroll), says Obama was born in Indonesia.

The article states (14th paragraph),

“Both were born outside the country — Obama in Indonesia, Duckworth in Thailand — and graduated from high school in Honolulu — Punahou and McKinley, respectively.”

The original article and quote can be seen here.

http://74.6.239.67/search/cache?ei=UTF-8&p=Duck…

But in the last day or so (Oct 16,2009) the Honolulu Advertiser scrubbed it clean. That quote has been removed. They sanitized article. The new sanitized cover-up version can be seen here.

http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2006/…

How is it that our “history” can be so easily re-written? I remember when we used to criticize the USSR for re-writing their history to suit their political desires. We are doing it in America NOW!!

People need to be screaming bloody murder. Write to everybody you know. Let them know we're not going to take this anymore!


captainsteve
Comment posted October 17, 2009 @ 12:31 am

Keyes Barnett transcript now available:

http://bit.ly/3Aq05z


RW&B
Comment posted October 17, 2009 @ 12:39 am

Thanks, captainsteve, that's quite a read!

But I must say — after Orly raised a big stink about how inaccurate waveydavey's account was, they seem very similar to me.


ArthurB.
Comment posted October 17, 2009 @ 2:02 am

Sammy, can you really be so lame as to think that it helps your case to trumpet evidence of his Indonesian birth in one breath and evidence of his Kenyan birth with the next?

What's the logic there, it double-proves that he wasn't born in Hawaii?


BigGuy
Comment posted October 17, 2009 @ 2:15 am

LOL!! Yeah, Sammy, pick a birthplace and go with it!


patgund
Comment posted October 17, 2009 @ 2:39 am

I never understood why the birthers seem to think Obama showed government officials a JPEG of his COLB.

Logically he showed them the document that said JPEG was scanned from. The document that has been confirmed by the State of Hawaii. The document that is accepted by the US State Department, Department of Defense, and other State and Federal officials.

Logically he also isn't obliged to show it to any unofficial Tom, Dick, and Harry who demands to see it.


patgund
Comment posted October 17, 2009 @ 2:41 am

Very interesting read. It's quite the OMG moment when one realizes how much the actual transcript differs from what Dr. Orly was telling her followers.


patgund
Comment posted October 17, 2009 @ 2:50 am

Well, lets take a look at the people who claimed in their “expert opinion” that the COLB was a forgery.

Namely “Ron Polarik” and “TechDude”.

Neither has provided any proof of identity. Instead they claim some deep dark conspiracy.

Neither has provided any proof of their training, their skills, their knowledge, or any evidence that they have any of the skills they claim.

In short, they're both nameless, faceless internet “experts”.

There is more credible, verifiable proof that Obama was born in Honolulu, Hawaii, than there is about either “Ron Polarik” or “TechDude”.

As for Sandra Lines, all she said is that it was impossible to determine from an on-line graphic if a document was geniune or a forgery, and that one would have to examine the real document to make sure. Which is exactly what Dr. Neil Krawetz said when he deconstructed Polarik's claims and showed he didn't have the knowledge he claimed to have.

Maybe “Ron Polarik” is an unlicensed pastoral forensic expert?? Stranger professional claims have been made by birthers.

Factcheck held the real document in their hands, and the photographs they provided are consistant with a State of Hawaii issued COLB from the last few years. While this is not proof positive, it is certain more conclusive evidence of the documemt's physical reality than any “evidence” the birthers have shown to try and claim forgery.


patgund
Comment posted October 17, 2009 @ 2:54 am

“Wake up people! Obummer is nothing but a Usurper-in-Chief, lying fraud, America hating, Saudi King bowing, Marxist/Socialist, dictator loving, former cocaine addict, Muslim racist puppet Indonesian Kenyan Chicago thug!”

Wow, did you get that out in all one breath??

Kenyan or Indonesian. Make up your mind, okay Sam?

Yeah, how dare he kiss and hug a member of the Saudi Royal Family! Oh, wait, that was Bush who played kissyface with a member of the House of Saud…..


patgund
Comment posted October 17, 2009 @ 3:17 am

I'm a moderate. You might call me a liberal.

I'm a gun owner, and strongly believe in the right to bear arms and the right and responsibility of personal defense.

I eat meat.

I support the defense of this country.

I'm straight and could care less what consenting adults do in the privacy of their bedrooms. I just want people to have the same rights across the board.

If an African-American or Hispanic man or woman wants to identify as Conservative, it's no skin off my back.

I see government's roll as to help people get back on their feet and become a self-supporting productive member of society as fast as humanely possible.

People should be able to listen to who they want, but there should also be equal access to several points of view within the market place of ideas.

A person's choice of religion is their personal choice, and they should have the right to practice it free of interference. However, that doesn't give that person the right to impose their faith or beliefs on others.

And Health Care should be part of the commons.


RedGraham
Comment posted October 17, 2009 @ 8:23 am

What had “birthers” done that was so over the top? They asked to see Barack Obama's birth certificate, and to date, they have been denied that “crazy” request. In fact, multiple law suits have been filed across the country in numerous forms, simply seeking access to Obama's personal history, and most recently, a judge has fined one of those attorney's $20,000 for “filing frivolous law suits” on the matter.
Meanwhile, taxpayers have picked up the tab for over $1.5 MILLION in Obama legal defense fees, used to keep Obama's birth certificate, his school and college records, his passport and travel records and his law practice files Top Secret. So far, the “transparent president” is anything but “transparent.” He is the ONLY president in US history to hide his entire past. from the Give Us Liberty website Oct. 14, 2009


GunnyRed
Comment posted October 17, 2009 @ 8:53 am

the allegiance sworn by any federal district judge to the U.S. Constitution as the supreme law of the land. Moreover, that individual judge swears to God, and to the people of the United States, a promise to properly administer justice according to all prevailing laws of the United States. If this is so, I wonder why Judge Carter has been the only federal judge, prior to and subsequent to the election of Barack Obama as President of the United States, to consider the requirement set forth in the U.S. Constitution, for the President to be a natural born citizen, as a law that should be enforced.


AXJ ROCKS
Comment posted October 17, 2009 @ 4:04 pm

Good post AXJ, reading through it we can clearly see Judge Carter is a practical man and right from the get go he has West tell him how it would work in Arnold Schwarzenegger ran for President and West concedes it would end up in Court just like this case has.

At minute 08:50 West concedes this Court has Competent Jurisdiction and there would be standing. Orly has won.

At minute 08:59 Orly starts right, this is not about impeachment, that is only for an eligible candidate and legitimate President and Obama might not be. Well done.

At minute 09:00 Orly explains to Judge Carter why he has competent jurisdiction under a case of Quo Warranto. Well done.

At minute 09:03 Orly goes for the jugular and states this is a legal question of constitutional law, not a political nor congressional matter so therefore they are out and this is a Court of competent jurisdiction. Well done again.

At minute 09:00 Orly explains to Judge Carter why he has competent jurisdiction since there is no Res Judicata tried on the merits. Brilliant.

At minute 09:17 Orly explains to Judge Carter why he has competent jurisdiction under a case when there is a violation of the Constitution. Brilliant again.

At minute 09:39 Orly explains to Judge Carter that the Secretary of the State of California did not verify Obama's eligibility. This is a grave matter. Well done.

At minute 10:00 Kreep asks Judge Carter to issue the appropriate Subpoena. Well done.

At minute 10:50 Orly explains to Judge Carter how Osama Bin Laden can win a Presidential Election with the help of the King of Saudi Arabia. Sad but true.

At minute 10:55 Orly explains to Judge Carter why he has competent jurisdiction and the American People have the right to enforce the Constitution. Well done.

At minute 11:24 Kreep sums it up for Judge Carter why he has competent jurisdiction. Well done.


AXJ ROCKS
Comment posted October 17, 2009 @ 4:08 pm

Thanks Captain. Looks like Judge Carter has gotten West to give in right away. If the Governor of California ran for President and won where would this end up?

Court.


AXJ ROCKS
Comment posted October 17, 2009 @ 4:09 pm

Her presentation was even better than we read about. See you in Court.


patgund
Comment posted October 17, 2009 @ 5:08 pm

I'm sure that's what she wants her supporters to believe.

Again, the court transcript argues a different viewpoint


patgund
Comment posted October 17, 2009 @ 5:14 pm

The birth certificate has been shown And confirmed. Repeatedly. The birthers keep moving the goalposts back or find some excuse not to accept it.

You know, I keep seeing people bandy around a number that Obama supposedly has spent to hide his records. I've seen anywhere from $500,000 to $1 BILLION cited. And I always ask the same question.

“What proof do you have of that amount?”

To date, I have never gotten an answer to back up that amount. Do you have that proof??

Oh, and Dr. Orly wasn't fined $20,000 just due to “frivolus lawsuits”, but rather things like opening insulting the judge in her filings, a violation of courthouse rules.


chrisjay
Comment posted October 17, 2009 @ 7:33 pm

Don't worry the Birfers are moving forward with confidence and purpose. The latest weapon in their arsenal: Photoshop hermaphrodite porn.
They never claimed to be classy, I guess


chrisjay
Comment posted October 17, 2009 @ 7:34 pm

Who ya gonna believe, the US legal system or Orly? huh?


chrisjay
Comment posted October 17, 2009 @ 7:37 pm

As a law officer you certainly seem to have a low opinion of our legal system, as well as a faulty understanding of legal concepts of document authentication


patgund
Comment posted October 17, 2009 @ 8:45 pm

I think the most interesting thing about the transcript is how many times Judge Carter asks Dr. Orly a straightforward question about her case that she simply can't answer. This is followed by her inability to stay on the subject.

Oh well, I see her law clerk, disbarred felon Charles E. Lincoln III, is already greasing the slides for an excuse if/when the case is dismissed, as witnessed by today's attacks against Judge Carter's legal clerk. (This seems to be one of Dr. Orly's usual tactics when something doesn't go her way in court – blame the clerk. She did that with SCOTUS as well.)


patgund
Comment posted October 17, 2009 @ 8:47 pm

*Laugh* The US legal system and the US Constitution.

Not the pretzels Dr. Orly likes to try and tie both into.


patgund
Comment posted October 17, 2009 @ 8:50 pm

Yeah. Isn't it funny how the wire service article from AP's OWN archive doesn't include that. Almost like the writer in Kenya wrote a couple extra paragraphs to the AP story to add local flavor…..


captainsteve
Comment posted October 17, 2009 @ 9:25 pm

That's a stupid comment, as if West made any brilliant comments. Everybody is fishing, cuz there's so little case law. Don't be a dufus, Taitz did an admirable job, as did Kreep.


patgund
Comment posted October 17, 2009 @ 11:12 pm

I didn't say anything about West, did I? I suspect the defense attorneys are simply biding their time until the case is dismissed or Dr. Orly has another meltdown.

Gary Kreep certainly did a better job at presenting his arguments, but that's not surprising, he's an experienced attorney from a pretty good law school. Dr. Orly's on-line law school background showed badly though. It's not surprising that Drake and Robinson wanted Kreep to represent them after dealing with Dr. Orly's behaviour.

Ironically, it was Drake who first suggested to Kreep about taking on Dr. Orly as co-counsel in the Keyes v Bowen case. I suspect Drake and Kreep rather regret that.

Actually reading though all the official court transcripts shows that Judge Carter has had to lead Dr. Orly step-by-step all though the proper procedure several different times, almost having to lead her by the hand though the proper way to render service at the first hearing. Even with the last one, she didn't make her case very well, kept wandering off the subject, and kept bringing up things that had nothing to do with the matter being discussed at that point.

I realize what you want to believe Mr. Sewell, but the transcript doesn't back up Dr. Orly's version of events. For that matter, none of the official transcripts do for any of the hearings.


patgund
Comment posted October 17, 2009 @ 11:19 pm

According to US case law, US legal code, and 200+ years of court rulings, there's only two forms of US citizenship recognized.

1) A citizen at birth, also called a “Natural-Born” or “Native-Born” citizen. One who has citizenship at birth due to either being born in the United States (jus soli)) or being born overseas to one or two US citizen parents (jus sanguinis)

2) A naturalized US citizen, i.e. someone who as an adult has given up their birth citizenship to take on US citizenship. Naturalized US citizens are unable to become president.

There is nothing in US history or US case law to support the “three states of citizenship”, or that possible dual-citizenship at birth somehow diminishes ones US citizenship status. Under US law, one is either a citizen at birth or a naturalized citizen, with no other states or levels being recognized.


ObamacornLies
Comment posted October 18, 2009 @ 8:13 pm

Wow, we got one week left people…I wonder if Judge Carter will rule on this case, before then:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHKydRfajuo


ObamacornLies
Comment posted October 19, 2009 @ 9:14 pm

WRONGGGGGG, go do some research and come back when you are a little more educated!


Anonymous
Comment posted October 19, 2009 @ 9:31 pm

An image of a physical COLB was scanned and posted on line.

In addition, photos of that COLB were later taken and posted.

The COLB is a legal birth certificate accepted by the United States Government (including the DoD and State Departments) for purposes of proving identity and citizenship.

In addition, the details shown on the COLB match information given by the State of Hawaii, including data in their birth index.

Therefore the logical conclusion is that the image of the COLB shown on line is in fact a scan off of an official State of Hawaii document issued by their Department of Health.

I have yet to see any credible evidence to the contrary.


Anonymous
Comment posted October 19, 2009 @ 9:46 pm

Oh really?? Care to point out where I’m wrong?

It’s a simple fact that the courts and legal texts over the last 200+ have been using “Natural-Born” and “Native-Born” interchangably.

Examples:

“There is no difference in right between the native-born citizen and the naturalized alien, except that the latter cannot be made president or vice-president of the United States.”
- The Citizen of the United States, Simeon E. Baldwin, pg.94 (available on Google Books)

“To be a candidate for President of the United States, a person must be a natural born citizen, or a citizen at the time of the adoption of the Constitution. This provision gave the American people the right to have a President who would always be one of the their own native-born fellow citizens.”

- “The Making of America” by W. Cleon Skousen, p. 528 (Published in 1985 by The National Center for Constitutional Studies. Note the use of both “Natural Born” and “Native Born”)

“The Constitution requires that the president shall be a native-born citizen of the United States…”

- Preparing for citizenship : an elementary textbook in civics (1913) by Guitteau, William Backus

“Citizens are either natural-born or naturalized. One who is born in the United States or under its jurisdiction is a natural-born citizen without reference to the nationality of his parents. Their presence here constitutes a temporary allegiance, sufficient to make a child a citizen.”

- Commentaries on the Law of Persons and Personal Property (Dwight, 1997), p. 125

“Under the longstanding English common-law principle of jus soli” persons born within the territory of the sovereign (other than children of enemy aliens or foreign diplomats) are citizens from birth. Thus, those persons born within the United States are “natural born citizens” and eligible to be President.”

The Heritage Guide to the Constitution” (2006), edited by Edwin Meese, Attorney General under Ronald Reagan, and authored by James C. Ho.

Some of those are quite Conservative sources, some are older sources. All of them predate Obama running for office, and most predate McCain’s first bid in 2000.


Anonymous
Comment posted October 19, 2009 @ 9:55 pm

“Top Forgery Experts” You mean “Polarik” and “TechDude”, neither of which have ever provided anything like their training, background, experience, or even their real names??

In other words, nothing to prove they’re anything other than nameless, faceless internet “experts”.

There’s more credible and verifable proof as to Obama being born in Hawaii, then there is in the existence or training of “Polarik” or “TechDude”.


Jim
Comment posted October 19, 2009 @ 5:31 pm

WARNING: It's fine to argue with the blowers, I promise you it's funny. However, I recommend you do NOT click on any of their links. They have been proven to be just wild theories and forged documents. There have also been reports of viruses attacks from these sites. As you can see from their posts, they have nothing but BS to offer and dismiss real evidence as if it didn't exist. Also, by clicking on their sites you provide them with more advertising dollars, since the number of clicks determine their pay rates. Besides, if they really had anything worthwhile it would be on FOX news and not only in their imaginations.


Jim
Comment posted October 19, 2009 @ 5:33 pm

Sorry, he won't rule until Orly pays what she owes. $20,000, I believe. Maybe you could pay it for her corny, then you could see the next beatdown sooner.


ObamacornLies
Comment posted October 19, 2009 @ 5:38 pm

We have all donated. She will have her $20,000.


Jim
Comment posted October 19, 2009 @ 5:41 pm

Ok, well send it to me and I'll make sure that Judge Land gets it.


ObamacornLies
Comment posted October 19, 2009 @ 5:42 pm

LOLOLOL, why don't you just let people decide for themselves. They don't need you to tell them what is believable or not! AND anyone can scan the site for viruses. I've been to all the sites and NO VIRUSES HERE. Your comment is just spin to hide the truth!

Is this David Axelrod and his goons?


ObamacornLies
Comment posted October 19, 2009 @ 5:43 pm

BITE ME!


Jim
Comment posted October 19, 2009 @ 5:52 pm

BTW, if you look on down the thread you'll see they've just started posting links to one another, because they hope some unsuspecting reader will click on them. But, you will also note, that in other threads on this site, once we stopped clicking on their links, they became much less into the arguments because we demanded proof of what they were stating and they had none. So, before you click on a link, ask them what they're trying to prove with their link. You will soon see they have nothing but the BS that you can read throughout this site…no need to click, no need to help blowers out.


Jim
Comment posted October 19, 2009 @ 5:57 pm

That's Orly's job…why do you think she's charging you 20 grand?


ObamacornLies
Comment posted October 19, 2009 @ 6:27 pm

BEWARE PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyuHWgC5lyk&feat…


ObamacornLies
Comment posted October 19, 2009 @ 6:31 pm

No REAL birth certificate has been show, to date!

FACT


ObamacornLies
Comment posted October 19, 2009 @ 6:32 pm

ahhh looks like they scrubbed capt steve's thumbnail…lolol


Jim
Comment posted October 19, 2009 @ 6:32 pm

Corn is at it again, all caps as if she's found something worthwhile. Another waste of time, corn. So what's this blower flick show, Orly giving you the bite you were looking for below? Is she nibbling enough for you? Is it worth the $20 grand you collected for her? Maybe you should get together with AXJ and make it a threesome, we all know how much you folks like blower porn and ditzy bleach blonds do seem to be your type.


ObamacornLies
Comment posted October 19, 2009 @ 6:33 pm

You go ORLY!
http://images.salon.com/ent/tv/feature/2009/08/…


ObamacornLies
Comment posted October 19, 2009 @ 6:36 pm

From Orly…

“Clerk for Judge Carter, Siddharth Velamoor, worked for the law firm representing defendants in my prior case Keyes et v Bowen (challenging Obama confirmation by the sec of State of CA Deborah Bowen)”

Obama's got his guys in there…


ObamacornLies
Comment posted October 19, 2009 @ 6:38 pm

Give it up Jim. You have LOST. This will never end and you know it, until he is proven FAKE!


ObamacornLies
Comment posted October 19, 2009 @ 6:40 pm

WARNING: The above post is just a LIE, to keep you from seeing the truth and becoming educated on the facts!

Do not believe the Obamacornians!


Jim
Comment posted October 19, 2009 @ 6:45 pm

I depend on that. If you didn't have this conspiracy, you'd just make up another. So, this is as good as any to make you look like the idiot you are. I haven't lost a thing. President Obama is sitting in the WH, and blowers are headed for another failure. Of course, nothing surprising there since blowers have no idea about our constitution and laws and follow around a mail-order attorney like a dog following a b*tch in heat. So, keep your noses to the a-hole and keep plugging along till you can build up another Judge and have him shoot you down too.


Jim
Comment posted October 19, 2009 @ 6:50 pm

Corny, I'm still waiting to see any truths from you. The last thing you've ever wanted was the truth. All that I've seen is wild theories and forged documents…something the courts don't take to kindly to. So, if someone wants the truth and to become educated the last place they need to go is WND spin-offs that have no basis in facts.


Anonymous
Comment posted October 19, 2009 @ 11:52 pm

That is except the one from Kenya.


Anonymous
Comment posted October 19, 2009 @ 11:52 pm

That is except the one from Kenya.


Anonymous
Comment posted October 19, 2009 @ 11:52 pm

That is except the one from Kenya.


ObamacornLies
Comment posted October 19, 2009 @ 7:19 pm

Yo Jim (aka David Axelrod) don't you have something BETTER to do, on MY tax dollars?


ObamacornLies
Comment posted October 19, 2009 @ 7:21 pm

I agree, that Hawaiian COLB is FORGED! Something the courts won't take to kindly too, once they find out! So, if someone wants the truth, let the case resume!


ObamacornLies
Comment posted October 19, 2009 @ 7:22 pm

Oh and Mr. Axelrod, tell BARRY, I said hello. Is he sitting there right next to you? LOLOL


Jim
Comment posted October 19, 2009 @ 7:24 pm

I still haven't received the $20 grand from you corny, so I'm doing this on spec at this time. When you send me the money, then you can claim you've paid for my time. Until then, laughing at your delusions will have to do.


ObamacornLies
Comment posted October 19, 2009 @ 7:25 pm

lolol
the goonies
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5UG7ISJfP0


Jim
Comment posted October 19, 2009 @ 7:26 pm

I don't know, why don't you look up from where you have your nose stuck up Orly's a$$ and see what's going on around you. You may be surprised to find I'm standing right there taking your pictures for WND to use in their latest article claiming you're Obama's mother.


ObamacornLies
Comment posted October 19, 2009 @ 7:26 pm

Hellooo, to get RID of the one that is “SCREWING US”, Ya IDIOT!

Come on, get with the program haus!


ObamacornLies
Comment posted October 19, 2009 @ 7:27 pm

That's ACORNY, to you!


Jim
Comment posted October 19, 2009 @ 7:30 pm

OK, so you're a corny blower, have to give credit where credit is due.


ObamacornLies
Comment posted October 19, 2009 @ 7:31 pm

Awesome, tell em I can play BBall too…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnP2FEY2mB4


Jim
Comment posted October 19, 2009 @ 7:34 pm

Corny shows exactly why you don't need to click on any of her links. She makes an accusation with no proof, like back in Orly's old country. Maybe Judge Land's quote would be good here. No, might as well just leave it as “Corny in Wonderland”.


ObamacornLies
Comment posted October 19, 2009 @ 7:36 pm

YAP YAP YAP, go do whatever it is you whitehouse people are supposed to be doing! Stop wasting our tax dollars!


Jim
Comment posted October 19, 2009 @ 7:37 pm

Corny: “So amazing how this world was made, I WONDER IF GOD IS A WOMAN!”

Makes sense, during Her time of the month she created blowers. She was a bit cranky and off her game then…


ObamacornLies
Comment posted October 19, 2009 @ 7:39 pm

That's just a verse in the song that's on my video. Wasn't asking for a response!


Jim
Comment posted October 19, 2009 @ 7:42 pm

Now, unable to prove her “COLB is forged” statement, corny tries to deflect from the fact she has no proof. See, no need to click, the blowers are self-proving they have no proof of their statements.


Jim
Comment posted October 19, 2009 @ 7:47 pm

Corny: “Hellooo, to get RID of the one that is “SCREWING US”, Ya IDIOT!”

Congrats, Corny, you're finally going to get rid of that mail-order lawyer that's been screwing you. About time! How much are you into her for before you finally realized she wasn't a Lawyer? You DIDN'T already donate to her FF(Frivolous Fund), did you? Well, now with the money you've saved you can afford to hire a real lawyer. But wait, will a real lawyer even take the case or are you only left with Kreeps?


ObamacornLies
Comment posted October 19, 2009 @ 7:51 pm

We've posted plenty of PROOF to prove it. But, you want to tell everyone that the links go to viruses and scare them. My links are all free of and viruses, that is just the current scare tactic Obamacorn is using right now.

need the proof again on the COLB, click here:
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs…

atlasshrugs has been proven virus free, so don't believe their JIVE! Research the website first, then check out the FACTS! These FACTS can't be faked. They are pure facts about the lining up of borders and other screwups, while they put the forged COLB together.


Jim
Comment posted October 19, 2009 @ 7:55 pm

Sorry, reflex response.


ObamacornLies
Comment posted October 19, 2009 @ 7:55 pm

Sorry, too BORINGGGG, to even answer that one…


ObamacornLies
Comment posted October 19, 2009 @ 7:57 pm

Not one missed basketball shot, can you beat that?


Jim
Comment posted October 19, 2009 @ 8:01 pm

Sure can…BTW, I'm the white guy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oACRt-Qp-s


ObamacornLies
Comment posted October 19, 2009 @ 8:06 pm

LOLOL, you CLICKED MY LINK. So, I guess you have a virus now. So, you think that is NOT my video? Let me give you some proof. Check the description of that video,
you will see this: Jim (aka David Axelrod) from WashingtonIndependant.com is a LIAR and a FRAUD!

LOLOL


Jim
Comment posted October 19, 2009 @ 8:08 pm

No, because I've already clicked on them and found that the forgeries were created by the person trying to say Obama's BC was a forgery. Pretty neat trick isn't it. WND even wrote about it and said Obama's was a real BC and the forgeries on other sites were fake. Pretty sad when someone's forced to make forgeries in order to call a real document a forgery.


ObamacornLies
Comment posted October 19, 2009 @ 8:09 pm

Obama's already tracking and censoring my YT channels, so don;t worry about turning me in to them.


ObamacornLies
Comment posted October 19, 2009 @ 8:14 pm

The fucking birth certificates are MOOT, anyways. Obama was adopted by and Indonesian man, as quoted by Michelle Obama and his name was legally changed to Barry Soetoro, as proven on his elementary school records, which also said that he is muslim.

There are no records whatsoever, that show he ever had it changed back. He also went under the name Barry Soetoro, when he went to college here as well. He an Indonesian Muslim, face it!


Jim
Comment posted October 19, 2009 @ 8:43 pm

Actually, that's not true. Whatever happened in Obama's youth has no affect on his nbc, only he could have changed it once he reached the age of adulthood. So being adopted is a non-issue. The Muslim part is you just trying to scare people and has no basis in fact. So sad when you have no proof you rely on scaring people.


Jim
Comment posted October 19, 2009 @ 8:44 pm

That's OK, I didn't click on your video, you didn't click on mine. Mine was a joke, but then again, so are you.


ObamacornLies
Comment posted October 19, 2009 @ 8:51 pm

oook, you need some muslim proof now? Comin at ya!

http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2009/01/barack-…

Obama's half-sister, Maya Soetoro-Ng explained to Jodi Kantor of the New York Times: “My whole family was Muslim, and most of the people I knew were Muslim.”

http://www.meforum.org/pipes/5544/barack-obamas…

And, this doesn't help:
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageI…


ObamacornLies
Comment posted October 19, 2009 @ 8:58 pm

Can someone explain why this article was scrubbed?
This is the before article:
http://216.221.102.26/blogger/post/The-Duckwort…

and this is it now:
http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2006/…


ObamacornLies
Comment posted October 19, 2009 @ 8:59 pm

The truth hurts!


AXJ ROCKS
Comment posted October 19, 2009 @ 9:30 pm

We had nothing to do with those pics but no one has denied them nor has any legal action been taken against the author or the publisher of the pics so they must be true. At this point they are legal evidence and Judge Carter will receive them as evidence.1961 pics showing she was not pregnant. Going to be hard to explain.

Looks like Orly will present the pics.


BigGuy
Comment posted October 19, 2009 @ 9:32 pm

“no one has denied them nor has any legal action been taken against the author or the publisher of the pics so they must be true.”

Yep, that's pretty the general level of your logic.


AXJ ROCKS
Comment posted October 19, 2009 @ 9:34 pm

Of course, all dictatorships are run like this.


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RedGraham
Comment posted October 19, 2009 @ 11:50 pm

The allegiance sworn by any federal district judge to the U.S. Constitution as the supreme law of the land. Moreover, that individual judge swears to God, and to the people of the United States, a promise to properly administer justice according to all prevailing laws of the United States. If this is so, I wonder why Judge Carter has been the only federal judge, prior to and subsequent to the election of Barack Obama as President of the United States, to consider the requirement set forth in the U.S. Constitution, for the President to be a natural born citizen, as a law that should be enforced.


buckaroni
Comment posted October 20, 2009 @ 1:58 am

That's right. Obama won the election by a landslide because us communists elected him. Be prepared tin foil heads for the day we're going to round you all up and put you in camps – preferably on a deserted island where we won't have to listen to your idiocy. This is a dictatorship now and we, the brownshirts, have control. You can't fight us. Join us or you're out of here.


buckaroni
Comment posted October 20, 2009 @ 2:01 am

The sad thing is that you birfers are going to be around for the next 8 years – the same amount of time Obama will be in office. But you are entertaining – I'll give you that. I think Bill O'Reilly said it best… who cares?


chrisjay
Comment posted October 20, 2009 @ 2:04 am

All evidence that Birfers ever existed will soon be completely 'scrubbed'. The Obama secret scrubbers started months ago—–with your brain


buckaroni
Comment posted October 20, 2009 @ 2:06 am

Yes. That's all they have. Wild theories and forged documents. But they're entertaining and so much fun to play with. It's going to be a sad day when all of their options are gone. I so look forward to David Carter's dismissal of Orly's lawsuit and it's coming soon.


chrisjay
Comment posted October 20, 2009 @ 2:07 am

It's true, cornhole: when we're done harassing Birfer bloggers, our next gig is rounding you up for the FEMA camps. Haven't decided yet whether you'll have to bunk with Mann Coulter or Pig Limbaugh…will let you know


chrisjay
Comment posted October 20, 2009 @ 2:10 am

True enough: when we tease the Birfer chimps here it has a tendency to make them feel important. If we ignored them they'd go away but where's the fun in that?


buckaroni
Comment posted October 20, 2009 @ 2:11 am

None of these crapping links offer any proof. No hard evidence. If they were real and actual proof, Obama wouldn't have ever been sworn in. The judges that have seen this evidence have either dismissed it or refused to hear any arguments because they know you have no argument. Only speculation and lies.


Jim
Comment posted October 20, 2009 @ 2:13 am

I don't believe he'll release it until Orly pays her bill. Funny how she thinks the government has all these amazing powers of cover-ups and 50 year old conspiracy theories, and she doesn't realize they also have amazing powers of persuasion in order to get nutty attorneys to pay their bills. I've started a collection from all the blowers on this thread…they can just send their money to me and when it gets to 20 grand, I'll pass it on to Judge Land and then Judge Carter can grant the motion to dismiss.


bearclaw
Comment posted October 20, 2009 @ 8:14 pm

Uh, maybe it is because the Constitution gives the federal courts no role in removing a sitting President from office.

If you think federal judges have that authority, where is it in the Constitution?

And imagine this scenario: conservative President elected with a strong majority of the popular vote and Electoral College, but a liberal Supreme Court. Justices decide they don't like the President. They accept review of a case challenging his eligibility to serve. All it takes is five justices — five people appointed for life and not elected by the people, and whose decisions are not final and not reviewable (there is no higher court, after all) — and they can remove the President from office.

The Founding Fathers rightfully gave the powers of impeachment and removal of the President to the House and the Senate, which are politically accountable to the people.

Oh, and Judge Carter hasn't “considered” the “natural born citizen” requirement. The arguments so far have had to do only with whether the plaintiffs have a justiciable claim in Judge Carter's court.


ObamacornLies
Comment posted October 21, 2009 @ 12:25 pm

He is NOT a sitting President. He is ILLEGALLY there. An illegal alien can't be President, so he is JUST A PERSON, NO PRESIDENT!


ObamacornLies
Comment posted October 21, 2009 @ 12:27 pm

Hmmm, that's a hard choice, I lvoe them both! Either is fine with me!


chrisjay
Comment posted October 21, 2009 @ 1:13 pm

Can you keep up this petulant, whiney tantrum for 8 years?
I won't listen to it for 8 days, so you're gonna have to find a healthy way to vent this rage year in & year out without hurting yourself or anyone else
Seek help


Jim
Comment posted October 21, 2009 @ 3:08 pm

Well, here's her appeal. Doesn't look like she responded to any of the Judge's points, which is no surprise.

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/documents/2009

Wonder if she was going for 30?


Jim
Comment posted October 21, 2009 @ 3:10 pm

Oops, try this link instead.

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/documents/2009…


chrisjay
Comment posted October 21, 2009 @ 5:28 pm

I don't see why you can't have 'em both: heck, I'll even throw in Miserable Maulkin as a bonus


bearclaw
Comment posted October 21, 2009 @ 6:01 pm

Illegal alien? You are totally unhinged. And I can say that without using the capslock key.


ObamacornLies
Comment posted October 21, 2009 @ 6:10 pm

8 years? You are delusional. He definitely isn't getting re-elected, without all of Acorns fraudulent votes. They have been busted big time and that is the reason he WON the election, becuause of fraud!

I think it will be proven that this whole election was based on FRAUD by Acorn and the whole election will be void, possibly before he is proven illegitimate. Either way, he got there by fraud


chrisjay
Comment posted October 21, 2009 @ 6:58 pm

Uh oh Corny, you're slipping! You momentarily conceded that BO's challenge would be getting RE-ELECTED, before catching yourself and returning to proper-Birfer script & proper Birfer terminology such as “void” and “illigitimate”
You'll have to watch out for that stuff in future: you might get ratted-out to Orly!


ObamacornLies
Comment posted October 21, 2009 @ 7:31 pm

LOLOL, this case is going to get so much publicity, that these Judges aren't going to be able to bought anymore, behind closed doors. People are going to be watching, and it will be a lot harder to get these secret meetings conducted.

Once everyone starts to hear about it, you will have MANY, MANY more people interested in wanting to know, where he was REALLY born or at least who his allegiance is sworn to!
http://www.ledger-enquirer.com/news/breaking_ne…


msdaisy
Comment posted October 21, 2009 @ 8:03 pm

Another one bites the dust. Kerchner v Obama, dismissed, no standing. Imagine that. Okay Orly, you’re next! Though I believe yours will be a bit more severe than a simple “dismissed”, since you have continued to slander Judge Land after he imposed a fine and found you guilty of contempt.

In her notice of appeal she did everything except call Judge Land an asshole and tell him to piss off. LOL! She called him bias, outrageously prejudice, she accused him of intimidation and threats, and she also called his remarks nothing short of a political lynching!

Oh yes, and she’s even suggesting on her blog that the citizen grand jury’s should start investigating the judges!

Yep that’ll go over about like a big old smelly fart in church!

(BTW, I'm back! My trip was very nice thank you, but it's damn cold in Canada!)


msdaisy
Comment posted October 21, 2009 @ 8:07 pm

Uhhh, yes he is a “sitting president”. Duly sworn in and actually sleeping in the White House! It's legal, deal with it.


ObamacornLies
Comment posted October 21, 2009 @ 8:18 pm

He's gonna be sleeping with Mama Sarah, back in Kenya, when we are done with him. He's in the country illegally, helloooo. That means deportation, back to where he came from!


msdaisy
Comment posted October 21, 2009 @ 8:32 pm

OMG, yes please, by all means I think she should present those pictures. Judge Carter will shit himself in absolute disbelief I’m sure. I mean of all the other crackpot evidence you Birthers have isn’t shit compared to that smoking gun!

Come on now all you anti-birthers, don’t you see that this is “real” evidence and they may actually “get” somewhere with this movement if they present those pictures to Judge Carter, and I think we should all have the good grace to encourage them on this one! Orly really needs to show those pictures to the Judge! Don’t you all agree??


msdaisy
Comment posted October 21, 2009 @ 8:44 pm

Okay all you anti-birthers, I just read AXJ Rock’s post yesterday that Orly will probably present those nude pics of Obama’s mother as evidence to Judge Carter. And by all means I think she should present those pictures. Judge Carter will shit himself in absolute disbelief I’m sure. I mean all the other crackpot evidence they have isn’t shit compared to that smoking gun!

Come on now don’t you see that this is “real” evidence and they may actually “get” somewhere with this movement if they present those pictures to Judge Carter, and I think we should all have the good grace to encourage them on this one! Orly really needs to show those pictures to the Judge! Don’t you all agree??


RedGraham
Comment posted October 21, 2009 @ 11:39 pm

And this from Alan Keyes ref Obama Kenyan-born newspaper articles”…it would simply indicate that some people in Kenya thought (perhaps mistakenly) that he was born there. Kenyan newspaper stories from 2004 (online or otherwise) are no more definitive proof of Obama's birthplace than uninformative birth announcements in Hawaiian newspapers from 1961.
This episode simply illustrates the need for what I and many others have sought:
a Constitutionally authoritative investigation of the facts;
a similarly authoritative evaluation of its results;
And, based on that evaluation, a Constitutionally authoritative judgment of law and fact as to whether Obama satisfies the Constitution's clear eligibility requirements for the Office of President of the United States.”
Seeking to blame and persecute those who are asking public officials to abide by their sworn duty to uphold the Constitution further aggravates the impression of malfeasance. Some continue to insist that this request indicates hostility to Obama. The real hostility (and perhaps even invidious discrimination) is shown by the unwillingness to accord him the same opportunity for resolution of all doubt that John McCain enjoyed. Do some of the power elite think they gain advantage, from perpetuating the impression that only fear of some adverse reaction based on race, rather than undisputed Constitutional authority, accounts for Obama's continued presence in the White House? Like the workplace whispers that resentfully ascribe advancement to “affirmative action”, rather than proven qualifications and performance, the ongoing refusal to allow Constitutionally authoritative closure in this matter smacks of more ill will than the honest desire to clear the air of doubt.


Jim
Comment posted October 21, 2009 @ 11:48 pm

1) Hawaii says he was born there, backed up by 2 newspaper announcements and a witness. SCOTUS says that makes him a NBC (that's why the Chief Justice felt comfortable swearing him in)
2) Obama is now our sitting president, only Congress can remove.
3) Alan Keyes is and always has been a bad loser. He carries no weight other than the BS he spews for his next spotlight cause. He'll be gone soon enough, till his next paranoid delusion…or until the pubs need another fall guy to take over an election for them.


Doubtful
Comment posted October 21, 2009 @ 11:58 pm

No, I don't think so. First of all, the news accounts aren't comparable — one is a foreign article by an unnamed author, inaccurately sourced to AP, while the other is a listing routinely compiled from official Hawaiian records.

But in any case the newspaper accounts would at best be secondary and corroborative. The Certification of Live Birth is proof that Obama was born in Hawaii, and will remain so until such time as it is shown to be invalid.

That's what you should be working on, because as long as he's got a valid Hawaiian birth certificate, from a legal point of view that's where he was born, regardless of what else you might come up with.


Jim
Comment posted October 22, 2009 @ 12:14 am

I'm sure Obama's family will think long and hard about retiring to Hawaii when he's done with his term(s) in office. The better question is will corny's head explode in rage before then?


bearclaw
Comment posted October 22, 2009 @ 12:47 am

Alan Keyes — concern troll.


bearclaw
Comment posted October 22, 2009 @ 1:01 am

A link to the court's order, for those who are interested:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/21406205/Kerchner-v-O…

The birfers, of course, will see a deeper and broader conspiracy. The birfers are like a lousy and delusional baseball team. They lose 30-0, and all of their batters strike out. Instead of realizing that they suck at baseball, they blame the umpires. The worse they lose, the more convinced they are that the umpires are crooked.


bearclaw
Comment posted October 22, 2009 @ 1:09 am

President Obama is trembling at your awesome power, Cornhole.

Are you willing to commit to a date by which “we” will have accomplished this? Because I would like to return to this thread on that date, and remind you that you were wrong . . . again.


RedGraham
Comment posted October 22, 2009 @ 6:52 am

1) Kenya says he was born there, backed up by 2 newspaper announcements and a witness. SCOTUS did not say that makes him a NBC (that's why the Chief Justice was uncomfortable swearing him in)
2) Obama is now illegally our sitting president, only Congress can remove oir he can resign. (too bad we can't recall, yet)
3) Alan Keyes was never a bad loser. He is one of the smartest men in the world but the leftist-media refuses to spotlight his cause. Obama'll be gone soon enough with his delusion of granduer…or until the libs need another fall puppet to take over an election for them.


chrisjay
Comment posted October 22, 2009 @ 1:09 pm

What is a “fall puppet”?
Also, if you don't like Keyes being called a bad loser, we can compromise and drop the adjective:
Alan Keyes is a loser.
better?


Majority Will
Comment posted October 22, 2009 @ 4:46 pm

More copy/paste from the resident village idiot.


Majority Will
Comment posted October 22, 2009 @ 4:48 pm

Holy crap. You truly are a paranoid idiot.

“He is one of the smartest men in the world”

Compared to you I suppose. LMFAO

“Obama is now illegally our sitting president”

Only in your tiny, pea brain, paranoid, delusional, irrelevant mind.


bearclaw
Comment posted October 22, 2009 @ 5:14 pm

“Alan Keyes was never a bad loser.”

I agreee with you on that. Alan Keyes is not a bad loser, he actually is exceedingly good at losing. Pretty much an unblemished record, when you think about it:

U.S. Senate, Maryland, 1988: lost to Paul Sarbanes, receiving 38% of vote.

U.S. Senate, Maryland, 1992: lost to Barbara Mikulski, receiving 29% of vote.

Republican Presidential Primaries, 1996: lost.

Republican Presidential Primaries, 2000: lost. Best result was 20% in Utah.

U.S. Senate, Illinois, 2004: lost to Barack Obama, receiving 27% of the vote.

Republican Presidential Primaries, 2008: lost. Best result was 2.7% in North Carolina.

Constitution Party Presidential Convention, 2008: lost to Chuck Baldwin.

To be fair, Alan Keyes did win the America's Independent Party nomination for President in 2008. After that party was formed by . . . Alan Keyes. He was on the ballot in three states and won 0.04% of the vote in the general election.

Notice a trend? The more he runs for office, the worse his results. He has never won. By contrast, even Harold Stassen won twice for District Attorney and once for Governor of Minnesota.


RedGraham
Comment posted October 23, 2009 @ 7:56 am

Obama Sr. gave several press interviews where he stated for the record that he was an African nationalist whose personal destiny was to participate in the development of his beloved and soon-to-be-independent Kenya. Perhaps most decisive was the fact that Obama Sr. had a home, a legal wife under British Kenyan law, and two children back in Kenya waiting for his return, which he did as soon as he completed his studies. All of this establishes that Obama Sr. had no intention of making either Hawaii or the US his home, and therefore Obama Sr. was never domiciled here. The REAL BC probably has Obama Senior as “biracial” & Obama Junior as a Brit-Kenyan. Be nice when we can finally see that BC.


RedGraham
Comment posted October 23, 2009 @ 8:01 am

And more unsubstatiated name-calling from one of Obama/Holder's minions. Fact is I have a well-above average IQ, 2 college degrees and paralegal certification. I served over six years in law enforcement before becoming a detective. Yeah-I probably am as stupid as the attorney Doctor Taitz but she does more than namecall unlike her inferiors.


msdaisy
Comment posted October 23, 2009 @ 12:04 pm

Ahhh Hahaha! Orly Taitz, a fraud, a liar, and adulterer! Okay birthtards, by Orly’s own (so-called) legal logic she is “Guilty” until proven innocent. AND Here is the evidence!

Read it and weep!

http://www.scribd.com/doc/21451147/Lucas-Daniel…


AXJ ROCKS
Comment posted October 23, 2009 @ 6:05 pm

Someone has posted the Judge Carter has ordered discovery on the AXJ website: http://www.axjus.com .


Jim
Comment posted October 23, 2009 @ 6:08 pm

AXJ, didn't you hear? Judge Carter has said he won't rule until Orly's sanction is paid to the other court. So, the dismissal will be released when Orly pays the $20 grand she owes. Since you're such an amazing and far-reaching cartel, it should be no problem for you to gather those funds together and pay that for her. Of course, you might want to add in another $10 grand for incidental expenses such as meals (Orly only eats at the best restaurants), clothes (high-end only for her), transportation (first-class all the way for Orly!), and, of course, plenty of bleach. If you want to send that to me, I'll be sure the Judge gets his payment. See, I can copy and paste too!


darthtater
Comment posted October 24, 2009 @ 3:41 am

Still spamming? Sheesh…you that hard up for site hits?


RedGraham
Comment posted October 24, 2009 @ 4:37 am

So now you're the racist?


RedGraham
Comment posted October 24, 2009 @ 4:38 am

You just don't like him because he's black…racist.


AXJ ROCKS
Comment posted October 24, 2009 @ 4:40 am

As soon as Judge Carter orders discovery.


AXJ ROCKS
Comment posted October 24, 2009 @ 4:48 am

The American People are getting sick of all these demagogues. Right now all they want is the truth. Is Obama eligible or not. That is all.


bearclaw
Comment posted October 24, 2009 @ 4:52 am

Is there a single fact in my post that is incorrect? I said he is very good at losing. That is demonstrably true. He has never won.

What, may I ask, is racist about that?


RedGraham
Comment posted October 24, 2009 @ 6:09 am

My country was born July 4, 1776 and died January 20, 2009 when The Great Usurper took that botched oath of office. He took it again the next day WITHOUT a Bible.
Cause of death: self-inflicted by ACORN-induced voters for a fake candidate in a fake election


AXJ ROCKS
Comment posted October 24, 2009 @ 7:02 am

Judge Carter is an intelligent man and can see through all this. He is writing an extensive motion to dismiss so even if the DOJ files an appeal it will go no where. The DOJ has found a Judge that is neither scared of them nor will be intimidated. He knows exactly what is involved here. Meanwhile the case will continue.


RedGraham
Comment posted October 24, 2009 @ 7:57 am

It is far past time to get past the shrill critic of people asking about Obama's Constitutional qualification to be president and answer some basic questions and requests: 1. Please release the long-form of your birth certification to clarify any question about your birth. 2. Did your mother relinquish your US citizenship, as was her right and legal requirement, when she married and her new husband adopted you in Indonesia? 3. Is it correct that you did not get your first US passport until 2004? 3. Under who's passport and as who's citizen did you travel when going to Africa, Indonesia, and Pakistan before 2004? 4. If your US citizenship was relinquished or that you gave allegience to a foreign country, when and how did you recover your US citizenship? 5. Did you at any point or in any respect attend any US college a foreign student? Answer these and I'm sure the whole birth issue will go away. What I do not understand is the $1M+ spent by Obama to fight public dislosure of any of this information and of the media, in particular, shilling for him to cover this up. It is not unAmerican to ask a candidate or now president(?) to prove he is actually a Consititutionally qualified citizen. Sweeping this issue under the rug with derision doesn't answer the questions and does a disservice to the nation.


Anteni
Comment posted October 24, 2009 @ 10:43 am

Wow. One has to wonder how you were able to find such lies. See the further you stretch the truth the more of a fool you make yourself seem. Your arguments are so disjoint from logic, that you fail to realize that you have to dismiss most facts to support your conspiracy. This includes the death of the president in 1982, 27 years before Barack Obama became president. Calling you are moron will be just to nice.


Anteni
Comment posted October 24, 2009 @ 10:50 am

Red.

You are a fraud.

Alan Keyes is a perfect example of sore loser. Keyes has never won a single elected office he has ran for. The only reason that he was on the ballot in California and 2 others states is that he failed to get the GOP nomination.

If there was any legal principles for your false claims then they would have already been ruled on by congress.

The only issue that the government of Kenya has with the issue of Obama's birth certificate is by questioning those birthers who forged a Kenyan government document.

Stop making things up, you are just embarrassing yourself.


Anteni
Comment posted October 24, 2009 @ 10:58 am

It is hard to understand why you would refer to another poster as racist, when only the facts are present. Alan Keyes is a poor politician. This has absolutely nothing to do with his supposed ethnicity.


Anteni
Comment posted October 24, 2009 @ 11:02 am

It is OK RedGraham. Really, it is OK. Within a democratic elections some people win, while others lose. Just because you can't accept the results of the election you shouldn't crying.


chrisjay
Comment posted October 24, 2009 @ 5:54 pm

If this is no longer your country then, by all means LEAVE.


chrisjay
Comment posted October 24, 2009 @ 5:59 pm

I would never dream, for instance, of calling Keyes an Uncle Tom. He is far too bitter and hateful to be mistaken for such. Michael Steele, on the other hand: now THAT'S an Uncle Tom! He is so comically exploited by the GOP—-named his blog at GOP.com 'What Up?' LOL


chrisjay
Comment posted October 24, 2009 @ 6:05 pm

Ooh that's clever psychology, Red. Cap'n concussion tried that one for weeks, just made me laugh as much as all his other ranting. I can see the sensitivity of the issue and I know Birfers are tired of being called racist, but you have to realize that although there are other motives fueling Birferism racism (albeit subliminal, on occasion) is impossible to ignore. Having a couple of tokens around like Keyes & Steele will not inoculate you from the charges, and calling your tormentors 'racist' is just funny.


chrisjay
Comment posted October 25, 2009 @ 2:06 am

Well, I'd say you're an expert on demagoguery—you practice it often enough around here!


chrisjay
Comment posted October 25, 2009 @ 2:07 am

The notion of you INSIDE the legal system—-in ANY capacity—–is truly nauseating


buckaroni
Comment posted October 25, 2009 @ 1:29 pm

There's no point in releasing it or answering any of the questions you birthtards have because nothing is ever going to be satisfactory. There will always be a problem with any document you're shown or answer you're given. So, what's the point?


Anteni
Comment posted October 25, 2009 @ 2:13 pm

Less us address your points.
1. His long-form or what ever you want to call it. This is irrelevant, since you refuse to accept that an authenticated document is genuine.

2. In legal context a person can't lose their citizenship when their parent marry or renounce their citizenship. However, this point conflicts with 1.

3. Legally speaking you have no standing on this issue.

4. Repeating 2. However, it even contradicts 1.

5. Makes absolutely no sense. I would try to decipher it, but why bother.

Only morons believe that an innocent people shouldn't defend themselves.

The only thing that has missing is birthers understanding of logic.


Anteni
Comment posted October 25, 2009 @ 2:16 pm

Wow. Copy and paste. It is good to see that you know how to use a computer. With the efforts you are putting in to spread misinformation you could honest do something that make you not seem like a fraud.


Jim
Comment posted October 25, 2009 @ 2:36 pm

BWAHAHAHAHA…Judge Carter said that the DOJ lawyers have been nothing but professional and had had no outside contact with him. He then berated Orly for posting his phone number on her web site and complained about BLOWERS trying to intimidate him with improper contact. Were you one of those people, AXJ? Were YOU trying to intimidate the Judge and found he wasn't scared of YOU? Yes, he is intelligent and will dismiss…just as soon as you pay the $20 grand Orly owes in Georgia.


Anteni
Comment posted October 25, 2009 @ 4:11 pm

Wow. With such a good education, one would expect you to actually use it instead of be ignorant to the facts. About you IQ you seem to not be using it. I think you should give some of it to Taitz, she needs all the help she can get.


Jim
Comment posted October 25, 2009 @ 4:15 pm

Yeah, right. We've seen what you understand about the law, so that pretty much blows the rest of you statement, Red. Now, if you ever get out of that basement and quit going to WND and other blower sites, I'm sure you can raise that IQ over 50.


chrisjay
Comment posted October 25, 2009 @ 7:29 pm

Birthtards are so crazy they think intimidating a judge is gonna help their mission. How bats**t is that?
I think I've been overestimating these evolutionary dead-enders…


buckaroni
Comment posted October 26, 2009 @ 12:53 pm

At least they (birthtards) make life amusing. Hate to see them go….


darthtater
Comment posted October 26, 2009 @ 5:39 pm

True…it has been VERY entertaining! ;)


Majority Will
Comment posted October 26, 2009 @ 6:21 pm

No one cares what you think, you arrogant traitor.


Majority Will
Comment posted October 26, 2009 @ 6:23 pm

You're a paranoid piece of traitorous dung with zero proof, zero common sense and obviously WAAAAAAAAY too much spare time.


Majority Will
Comment posted October 26, 2009 @ 6:24 pm

Yes. Now GFY.


Majority Will
Comment posted October 26, 2009 @ 6:27 pm

It's not unsubstantiated at all. You, like all traitorous birthtards, are pathological liars.

Your demands are irrelevant. And you deserve as much ridicule as possible as your lunacy is just as insulting to true Americans and to the laws of the United States.

If you can't take it, don't dish it out, little puss puss.


Majority Will
Comment posted October 26, 2009 @ 6:28 pm

You're an idiot. That is certain.


AXJ ROCKS
Comment posted October 27, 2009 @ 6:13 am

* Expand ?
* Guest

Michael Dixon 6 days ago
The writer's use of the words “insane” and “ridiculous” in describing Taitz and her position sets the tone for his opinion piece. I got the distinct impression that the writer has only a superficial knowledge of the issue and, therefore, resorts to the ad hominem attack of the messenger, Taitz, rather than refute her arguments, which he fails to do. The bedrock issue is Obama's citizenship status and whether or not he meets the Constitutional requirement of being a “natural born Citizen” of the United States. If it can be shown that he does not, then we have a monumental Constitutional crisis on our hands, one that is unprecendented. One act on the president's part would answer the question: make his original, full birth certificate available to the public. Why will he not do so? Why did he not so so during his campaign when the issue was first raised? The Certification of Live Birth posted on his website and elsewhere on the Internet is insufficient and unconvincing to many people. Taitz, whatever else might be said of her, is trying to get to the bottom of this matter and bring closure to it. The writer of the above article seems not to grasp this truth. In fact, neither he nor Orly Taitz nor you nor I knows where Obama was born. It is imperative that we know if we believe in our Constitution and wish to uphold its integrity.


BigGuy
Comment posted October 27, 2009 @ 5:05 pm

The Certification of Live Birth is legal proof of his having been born in Hawaii, unless it can be shown to be invalid. The so-called “long form” is irrelevant, in that the additional information it contains has no bearing on presidential eligibility.

If I were you, I'd work on finding flaws in the COLB, because if it is valid your case is dead in the water regardless of anything else you might come up with.


AXJ ROCKS
Comment posted October 28, 2009 @ 1:54 am

Obama’s COLB was never accepted by the Hawaii Registrar!

It’s only been “filed” but never “accepted.” If it hasn’t been accepted, it’s not certified or official according to the State of Hawaii.

Notice the lower left hand corner for wording “filed” or “accepted.” Side by side comparison of two officially certified “Accepted” Hawaiian COLB’s with Obama’s unofficial “filed.”

http://s55.photobucket.com/albums/g160/steveb77…


RedGraham
Comment posted October 28, 2009 @ 2:10 am

If the Obama's lawyers produce the required authentic untampered with documents in court on January 26th then I have a lot of crow to eat & Alan Keyes will have yet another loss to add to his record (which is as bad as Lincoln's). If the Obama stonewalls or stalls yet again on providing evidence he is a natural-born citizen then we should fly our flags upside down & at least one state should secede for a remnant of Americans to migrate to.


AXJ ROCKS
Comment posted October 28, 2009 @ 3:04 am

We'll all create the State of AXJ. No Federal Government, No Taxes. No BS. Just simple American way of life. Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness.


Doubtful
Comment posted October 28, 2009 @ 10:10 am

It's simpler than that. If Judge Carter wants to see if Obama has a real Hawaiian birth certificate, he will most likely ask the Department of Health to send one directly to him. That way there'll be no doubt about the document's authenticity.

And what the DOH will send him will be a Certification of Live Birth. If it shows Obama's place of birth to be Honolulu, like the one on FighttheSmears and FactCheck, then it's all over.

But there's not going to be a trial on January 26th; Orly's simply lying about that. Most likely the case will be dismissed, and if it's not the DOJ will appeal. There's no way the January schedule can be met.


bearclaw
Comment posted October 28, 2009 @ 1:34 pm

Just don't try doing it within the borders of the United States, traitor.

I understand that Somalia is pretty much your libertarian wet dream: no functioning government, no taxes. Nothing but life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. You might try the tribal areas of Afghanistan and Pakistan as well. You'll really like that.

Good bye and good riddance.


RedGraham
Comment posted October 29, 2009 @ 2:09 am

I would think the January schedule could very easily be met. How hard would it be for the Obama to just get his BC and release his college records. We can worry about the Indonesian adoption, draft registration and Social Security Numbers issues later. Let's see that BC!


RedGraham
Comment posted October 29, 2009 @ 2:46 am

In Wikipedia…under the article “Early Years” we can see that Sun Yat Sen , the first president of China was actually born in Nov. 12, 1866 in Guangdong province, China.
Then the article exposed how egregiously irresponsible the Hawaii officials are in issuing birth certificates:
“In March 1904, he obtained a Certificate of Hawaiian Birth issued by the Territory of Hawaii, stating he was born on Nov. 24, 1870 in Kula, Maui by signing a statement declaring so, providing a photograph of himself and having Chinese friends attest to his birth.”
So even a 37 year old China-born man could get a Certificate of Hawaiian Birth from Hawaii officials stating he was born in Hawaii, there is no doubt at all that baby Obama would also be able to obtain a birth certificate from Hawaii officials after being born in Kenya then flew back to Hawaii with his parents to register with the officials and announce on newspaper as born in Hawaii.


RedGraham
Comment posted October 29, 2009 @ 3:12 am

This is an excerpt from Obama's lawyers attempt to quash the evidence & dismiss the case Keyes v. Obama scheduled for January 26th.
1. The defendant was not notified in advance of the serving of the subpoena (which is required in the case of a request for personal records). This makes the subpoena invalid.
2. The student records could have no possible bearing on the case (which dealt with whether the California Secretary of State and the California electors had a duty to verify Obama’s eligibility).
3. The whole thing is moot, since the Secretary of State already certified the election and the electors already voted.

Pretty telling isn't it?


RedGraham
Comment posted October 29, 2009 @ 3:51 am

Obama has not conclusively proven that he was born in Hawaii. More importantly, he is not an Article II 'natural born Citizen' because when Obama was born his father was a British subject/citizen and Obama himself was the same.


Doubtful
Comment posted October 29, 2009 @ 10:30 am

No, Red, you're confused. The January deadline will not be met for the reasons I gave you — whichever way Judge Carter rules, the losing side will appeal. That could take months. And in the unlikely event that the eventual ruling led to a trial, both sides would be granted discovery, also a lengthy process — especially if your side tries to argue for irrelevant documents like college records.

Of course, a BC has already been made public, but it hasn't been produced in court as far as I know. Like I said, if Judge Carter orders it, he will get a COLB from Hawaii, verify that it proves that Obama was born in Hawaii, and the case will be done.


Doubtful
Comment posted October 29, 2009 @ 10:35 am

It is, but I suspect it tells different things depending on which side you're on.

That's why we have judges. Any bets on which way Judge Carter's going to rule?


BigGuy
Comment posted October 29, 2009 @ 10:41 am

Take a deep breath and read what I wrote again.

“The Certification of Live Birth is legal proof of his having been born in Hawaii, unless it can be shown to be invalid.”

I'm not sure how you can argue with that; it's what the law clearly says.

As far as his father's citizenship is concerned, there's not a single reputable constitutional lawyer who supports the two-citizen-parent theory — and don't bother giving me minority opinions or irrelevant Swiss philosophers. There's not a single legal precedent that agrees with you.

But please, be my guest. If you can get court rulings in your favor, then I guess you're right. But so far you've gotten none, and I think that's because you're wrong.


Doubtful
Comment posted October 29, 2009 @ 12:43 pm

Ah, you missed the chance to bet. But it's OK, you would have lost.

Remarked the judge,

“The hearings have been interesting to say the least. Plaintiffs’ arguments through Taitz have generally failed to aid the Court. Instead, Plaintiffs’ counsel has favored rhetoric seeking to arouse the emotions and prejudices of her followers…”


Guest
Comment posted October 29, 2009 @ 6:36 pm

I am so enjoying going back to your old posts, and pointing out that you are wrong and you lost and Judge Carter isn’t going to look at the nudie pics of your mom.

How does it feel to lose again?

Judge Carter just emphatically granted the Motion to Dismiss, as we told you he would do.

And he took special care to note the incompetence of Orly Taitz.

Go back to AXJ and WND and commiserate with the rest of the birthtards.

Bye!

http://www.scribd.com/doc/21808122/Judge-Carter...


Guest
Comment posted October 29, 2009 @ 6:36 pm

I am so enjoying going back to your old posts, and pointing out that you are wrong and you lost and Judge Carter isn’t going to look at the nudie pics of your mom.

How does it feel to lose again?

Judge Carter just emphatically granted the Motion to Dismiss, as we told you he would do.

And he took special care to note the incompetence of Orly Taitz.

Go back to AXJ and WND and commiserate with the rest of the birthtards.

Bye!

http://www.scribd.com/doc/21808122/Judge-Carter...


Guest
Comment posted October 29, 2009 @ 6:42 pm

Idiot. Judge Carter just dismissed the lawsuit. Look at my post below. Compare it to Judge Carter’s decision:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/21808122/Judge-Carter-Ruling-on-MTD?autodown=txt

Judge Carter said the same thing I did: the federal courts have no role under the Constitution in removing a sitting President from office.


Guest
Comment posted October 29, 2009 @ 6:42 pm

Idiot. Judge Carter just dismissed the lawsuit. Look at my post below. Compare it to Judge Carter’s decision:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/21808122/Judge-Carter-Ruling-on-MTD?autodown=txt

Judge Carter said the same thing I did: the federal courts have no role under the Constitution in removing a sitting President from office.


Guest
Comment posted October 29, 2009 @ 6:42 pm

Idiot. Judge Carter just dismissed the lawsuit. Look at my post below. Compare it to Judge Carter’s decision:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/21808122/Judge-Carter-Ruling-on-MTD?autodown=txt

Judge Carter said the same thing I did: the federal courts have no role under the Constitution in removing a sitting President from office.


Guest
Comment posted October 29, 2009 @ 6:49 pm

He has now ruled, and you WON!!!!!

Just kidding. You lost. Again. Of course. Also.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/21808122/Judge-Carter-Ruling-on-MTD?autodown=txt


Guest
Comment posted October 29, 2009 @ 6:49 pm

He has now ruled, and you WON!!!!!

Just kidding. You lost. Again. Of course. Also.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/21808122/Judge-Carter-Ruling-on-MTD?autodown=txt


Guest
Comment posted October 29, 2009 @ 6:49 pm

He has now ruled, and you WON!!!!!

Just kidding. You lost. Again. Of course. Also.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/21808122/Judge-Carter-Ruling-on-MTD?autodown=txt


bearclaw
Comment posted October 29, 2009 @ 2:32 pm

No discovery. No trial. You lose again.

Judge Carter just emphatically granted the Motion to Dismiss, as we told you he would do.

And he took special care to note the incompetence of Orly Taitz.

Go back to AXJ and WND and commiserate with the rest of the birthtards.

Bye!

http://www.scribd.com/doc/21808122/Judge-Carter


bearclaw
Comment posted October 29, 2009 @ 2:33 pm

So funny.

No discovery. No trial.

How does it feel to lose again?

Judge Carter just emphatically granted the Motion to Dismiss, as we told you he would do.

And he took special care to note the incompetence of Orly Taitz.

Go back to AXJ and WND and commiserate with the rest of the birthtards.

Bye!

http://www.scribd.com/doc/21808122/Judge-Carter


bearclaw
Comment posted October 29, 2009 @ 2:37 pm

“Judge Carter is an intelligent man and can see through all this.”

Yes he can!

How does it feel to lose again?

Judge Carter just emphatically granted the Motion to Dismiss, as we told you he would do.

And he took special care to note the incompetence of Orly Taitz.

Go back to AXJ and WND and commiserate with the rest of the birthtards.

Bye!

http://www.scribd.com/doc/21808122/Judge-Carter


bearclaw
Comment posted October 29, 2009 @ 2:44 pm

Pretty telling that Judge Carter just dismissed the lawsuit. And took special care to note the incompetence and unethical conduct of Orly Taitz.

Semper Fi!

http://www.scribd.com/doc/21808122/Judge-Carter…


bearclaw
Comment posted October 29, 2009 @ 2:52 pm

January deadline??? HaHaHaHaHa.

No discovery. No trial. You lose. Again. Also.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/21808122/Judge-Carter…


Dr. Maloney
Comment posted October 29, 2009 @ 2:59 pm

Dr. Maloney 0 minutes ago
“Plaintiffs have encouraged the Court to ignore these mandates of the Constitution; to disregard the limits on its power put in place by the Constitution … Plaintiffs have attacked the judiciary, including every prior court that has dismissed their claim, as unpatriotic and even treasonous for refusing to grant their requests and for adhering to the terms of the Constitution which set forth its jurisdiction. Respecting the constitutional role and jurisdiction of this Court is not unpatriotic. Quite the contrary, this Court considers commitment to that constitutional role to be the ultimate reflection of patriotism.”

Judge David Carter


Majority Will
Comment posted October 29, 2009 @ 3:33 pm

Sun Yat Sen was born in China in 1866, but obtained a Certificate of Hawaiian Birth as an adult in 1904 based on fraudulent information (false statements from himself and a witness that he was born in the Territory of Hawaii). He did that because there was a price on his head set by the Imperial Government of China, and he was trying to avoid capture. 1904 was very different from 1961.

The laws have changed significantly since 1904 to prevent fraud.

From wikipedia:
“Opponents asserted that Hawaiian officials had not explicitly addressed the fact that Obama was born in Hawaii, and pointed to a provision of Hawaiian law that permits the issuance of certifications of live birth to those born outside the state or even outside the country. However, the suggestion that this could have applied to Obama was rejected by Janice Okubo, director of communications for the Hawaii Department of Health: “If you were born in Bali, for example, you could get a certificate from the state of Hawaii saying you were born in Bali. You could not get a certificate saying you were born in Honolulu. The state has to verify a fact like that for it to appear on the certificate.”

More importantly, your paranoid delusions are irrelevant.

DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH
News Release
LINDA LINGLE
GOVERNOR
_________________________________________________________________________________________________________
CHIYOME LEINAALA FUKINO M.D.
DIRECTOR
Phone: (808) 586-4410
Fax: (808) 586-4444
_________________________________________________________________________________________________________
For Immediate Release: July 27, 2009 09-063
STATEMENT BY HEALTH DIRECTOR CHIYOME FUKINO, M.D.
“I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, Director of the Hawai?i State Department of Health, have seen the original vital
records maintained on file by the Hawai‘i State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama
was born in Hawai‘i and is a natural-born American citizen. I have nothing further to add to this statement
or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago.”
###


chrisjay
Comment posted October 29, 2009 @ 4:10 pm

They'd call Linda Lingle a race-traitor if she were white LOL


darthtater
Comment posted October 29, 2009 @ 6:27 pm

How's that crow tastin???


chrisjay
Comment posted October 29, 2009 @ 8:50 pm

We'll give you Kentucky. Take that extra-chromosome slag heap, along with Palin, Orly and Joe Wilson.
We'll finance the 75-foot wall and fully-patrolled moat we'll build around your shit hill Birthtard kingdom.


Anteni
Comment posted October 30, 2009 @ 7:27 am

To bad it is over. More court cases will not change anything. The more you spread will not change anything.

Barak Obama is the duly elected 44th and current president of America. He is a natural born citizen and was born in Honolulu.

Keep your disillusion going.


Majority Will
Comment posted October 30, 2009 @ 2:33 pm

“Plaintiffs presume that the words of Emmerich de Vattel, John Jay, and John Armor Bingham alone empower this Court to define the natural born citizen clause. The Complaint conveniently chooses to ignore Congress’ long history of defining citizenship, whether naturalized or by birth. See Charles Gordon, “Who Can be President of the United States: The Unresolved Enigma,” 28 Md. L. Rev. 1, 7-22 (1968) (contrasting 150 years of active Congressional legislation against judicial restraint).”

- The Honorable Judge Carter


RedGraham
Comment posted October 31, 2009 @ 2:12 am

Obama has room to relax a bit now with the dismissal of yet aanother challenge to his presidency in a lawsuit that claimed he is ineligible to the nation's highest office because he isn't a natural-born US citizen. In a 30-page ruling, US District Judge David O Carter of California threw out the case on technical grounds saying his court lacked the jurisdiction to rule on a case intended to unseat a sitting president.
Still no Birth Certificate except from Kenya.


RedGraham
Comment posted October 31, 2009 @ 2:33 am

So once we actually know what citizenship Obama listed is on his college records and what is stated on the original Hawaiian BC we can pretty well give up on the idea he's not a natural-born US citizen. Both easy fixes if The Great Usurper would just go ahead and release those documents. It would be a lot cheaper than paying over a million dollars to conceal them.


Anteni
Comment posted October 31, 2009 @ 5:38 am

Red it is over. I am sorry to break it to you it is over. You can continue in your disillusion, but no one has legal standing to get access to such information.

With you people insulting the president and being unreasonable why would anyone satisfy your requests. Honestly, are you that disillusioned or think people are that stupid.


Majority Will
Comment posted October 31, 2009 @ 3:21 pm

Birther movement leader Orly Taitz is planning a protest in New York City this weekend against a television personality who refuses to air her insane conspiracy theories — Fox News' Bill O'Reilly.
The protest is set to take place on Veterans Day, November 11th outside FOX headquarters in Midtown.
O'Reilly dismissed the birthers in July, saying he had investigated and settled the issue.
“That theory has been around for a while. The Factor investigated, found out it's bogus. But Mr. Dobbs is still engaged…

Again, we found out that President Obama was born in Hawaii.. we were sent the documents. And what are you gonna do? I don't know why it's still around…”
The host later called the birthers “stupid.”

Read more at: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/30/orly-t

Oily Taintz's paranoid plans for 11/11 is a disgrace and dishonorable to all U.S. veterans.

Birfers are disgusting traitors.


Majority Will
Comment posted October 31, 2009 @ 3:22 pm

You're a disgusting, deranged liar and traitor to the U.S.


AXJ ROCKS
Comment posted October 31, 2009 @ 8:49 pm

Orly is just asking O'Reilly and opportunity to express her point of view. What is wrong with that?


Jim
Comment posted October 31, 2009 @ 8:52 pm

Because he believes, like a majority of Americans, that she's bat-sh*t crazy. Why should he have that on his show. Besides, O'Reilly prefers to hear himself speak, him and Orly would NEVER get along long enough to do an interview.


Anteni
Comment posted November 1, 2009 @ 3:11 am

O'Reilly has stated that “we found out that President Obama was born in Hawaii.” And later call birthers stupid. You make it seems as though Ms. Taitz has more to add to the discussion. He has already made up his mind on the facts.


oliveoil
Comment posted November 1, 2009 @ 7:32 pm

Alan Keyes is nuts, too. Let him go ahead with his lawsuit–he has no life and these birthers have no life!!!


Majority Will
Comment posted November 1, 2009 @ 11:27 pm

You're a criminal and a liar.


AXJ ROCKS
Comment posted November 1, 2009 @ 11:56 pm

What proof does O'Reilly possibly have? A Certificate of Live Birth which was filed but never Accepted by the Rigistrar of Hawaii.


AXJ ROCKS
Comment posted November 2, 2009 @ 12:11 am

This could be interesting! Obots ATTENTION!

Saturday, October 31, 2009
ORLY'S CASE STILL ALIVE?…DID JUDGE SCREW UP OR DID HE LEAVE DOOR OPEN ON PURPOSE?…
Carter’s not yet given a final Judgement

October 30, 2009 by John Charlton
HAS FAILED TO IMPLEMENT RULES 54 AND 58

Legal analysis by John Charlton

(Oct. 30, 2009) — Dispite all his rancor and loony constitutional theories, Judge David O. Carter has failed to give final judgment in the case Barnett vs. Obama, leaving the door open to further filings and proceedings.

His ruling has not dismissed the case, but rather merely dismissed arguments presented so far. This is the interpretation had if you read the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure 54 and 58.

Rule 54(b) reads as follows:

(b) Judgment on Multiple Claims or Involving Multiple Parties.

When an action presents more than one claim for relief — whether as a claim, counterclaim, crossclaim, or third-party claim — or when multiple parties are involved, the court may direct entry of a final judgment as to one or more, but fewer than all, claims or parties only if the court expressly determines that there is no just reason for delay. Otherwise, any order or other decision, however designated, that adjudicates fewer than all the claims or the rights and liabilities of fewer than all the parties does not end the action as to any of the claims or parties and may be revised at any time before the entry of ajudgment adjudicating all the claims and all the parties’ rights and liabilities.

Rule 58 (a & b) reads as follows:

(a) Separate Document.

Every judgment and amended judgment must be set out in a separate document, but a separate document is not required for an order disposing of a motion:

(1) for judgment under Rule 50(b);

(2) to amend or make additional findings under Rule 52(b);

(3) for attorney’s fees under Rule 54;

(4) for a new trial, or to alter or amend the judgment, under Rule 59; or

(5) for relief under Rule 60.
(b) Entering Judgment.

(1) Without the Court’s Direction.

Subject to Rule 54(b) and unless the court orders otherwise, the clerk must, without awaiting the court’s direction, promptly prepare, sign, and enter the judgment when:

(A) the jury returns a general verdict;

(B) the court awards only costs or a sum certain; or

(C) the court denies all relief.

From this it can be seen that since the clerk has not yet added a Judgment record to the Docket, that Carter is indicating, despite his heavy handedness to the Plaintiffs, that he might allow a second amended complaint, which includes a request for relief for the political candidates, whom he acknowledged had standing, so long as their request for relief was redressable: such as a monetary reward howsoever small.

Judge Carter has from 10 to 30 days after his ruling on the Motion to Dismiss to add such a judgment dismissing the case with prejudice to the docket, otherwise he is formally indicating that he expects Dr. Orly Taitz, lead counsel for the plaintiffs, and Attorney Gary Kreep, for his plaintiffs, to submit a request to file a second amended complaint. Indeed, without such ruling added to the docket, the Plaintiffs can initiate such a request action.

Posted in Law Cases | Tagged Captain Pamela Barnett vs Obama, Dr. Orly Taitz, Gary Kreep, Judge David O. Carter, Rule 54(b), Rule 58 a & b | 2 Comments

1.
on October 31, 2009 at 5:19 AM Jack

Looks like Judge Carter HAS enabled checkmate against Team Obama after all:

Well done, Orly Taitz case moves forward solely for Plaintiff Keyes for redressable relief of monetary damages, thereby avoiding political question (leave that to Congress once Keyes recovers even nominal damages for pre-Presidential fraud against CandidateObama) and Team Obama has nothing to appeal to delay the trial.

2.
on October 30, 2009 at 10:43 PM Jack

CARTER DECISION FATAL FLAW: When all is said and done, ONE CLAIM MOST DEFINITELY SURVIVES, and that is Keyes’ claim for fraud committed by Candidate Obama before becoming President, which Judge Carter pretends away on the sole basis of Orly having filed same on 1/20/09 at an hour afterObama took the Oath. That’s a “red herring” because Obama took the valid Oath on 1/21/09, no Presidential immunity exists for tort fraud by Candidate Obama before becoming President, and “before-or-after” Oath filing by Orly is irrelevant for such case which does NOT seek Presidential removal, albeit Judge Carter pretends that IS the sole relief sought by Keyes.

——————————–
IT WOULD APPEAR THAT ORLY, COULD IN FACT, FILE A SECOND AMENDED COMPLAINT AND SIMPLY FILE A CLAIM FOR ELECTION FRAUD AGAINST OBAMA…SHE GETS A JUDGMENT…THE WHOLE WORLD IS THEN OFFICIALLY ON NOTICE THAT OBAMA IS A CRIMINAL…AND THEN THE PUBLIC CAN PUT PRESSURE ON CONGRESS TO HAVE HIM REMOVED, SINCE CARTER HAS BEGGED OFF.


mystylplx
Comment posted November 2, 2009 @ 1:45 am

Birfoons will no ore accept reality than flat earthers will accept that the world is round.

But they are at least entertaining! Go birfoons!


Anteni
Comment posted November 2, 2009 @ 4:51 am

Did you read his comment. Actually, AXJ did get it correct.

He wrote “He is writing an extensive motion to dismiss.” Reread it again if you don't believe me. AXJ got one thing right, he correctly predicted that the case would get dismissed. However, he failed to realized that DOJ wouldn't want to appeal it.


Anteni
Comment posted November 2, 2009 @ 8:09 am

I look left the world seems flat. I look right the world seems flat. I look forwards and backwards, the world seems flat. However, I having travel I know the world is round. I look at a birth certificate I know it is real. Over a year and no government official has claimed that it is fake, I accept it as real. The birth certificate isn't really that complicated concept.

Yes, they are entertaining mostly when they make jaw dropping stupid comments.


Anteni
Comment posted November 2, 2009 @ 8:20 am

Alan Keyes, is one of the most jealous American men alive. Never winning public office every time he enters an election. Being continually being rebuffed by the GOP as a presidential candidate. Being flown into Illinois and losing to the man who would become president. Then slipping into disillusion and deciding to run in 3 states hoping that you can become president. Then getting less that 0.1 percent of the popular vote.

I once read that Keyes challenged Obama on the nature of his citizenship during a debate for the Illinois state senate. When Obama stated he wasn't running for president. Keyes, believe that it was “a gotcha moment.”

These people can't think logically.


Anteni
Comment posted November 2, 2009 @ 8:21 am

What proof do you have that your are not clinically insane?


darthtater
Comment posted November 2, 2009 @ 10:19 am

Same post in a different forum….

Still more lies from Birfistan…


darthtater
Comment posted November 2, 2009 @ 10:21 am

You truly are delusional…and reality challenged aren't you…nothing you posted is factual.


darthtater
Comment posted November 2, 2009 @ 10:23 am

True…but because no “official” claims it's fake, they assume the officials are in on the conspiracy…dumbass birfers are so entertaining!


bearclaw
Comment posted November 2, 2009 @ 2:45 pm

You have been wrong about everything so far. You and the people whose opinions you cut and paste are wrong on this one as well. The understanding of FRCP is, well, nothing short of breathtakingly ignorant. Judge Carter issued an order granting a the defendants' Motion to Dismiss as to all parties and all claims. Judgment will follow.

But I'd love to see Orly try to file a Second Amended Complaint after Judge Carter told her, quite clearly, the he would not allow it. If she files it, count on Judge Carter sanctioning her.


bearclaw
Comment posted November 2, 2009 @ 2:57 pm

Why do you care? I thought you and your neo-nazi pals had big plans to secede from the United States. How's that going?


bearclaw
Comment posted November 2, 2009 @ 2:59 pm

“Still no Birth Certificate from Kenya.”

I fixed your mistake.


RedGraham
Comment posted November 2, 2009 @ 4:45 pm

once we actually know what citizenship Obama listed is on his college records and what is stated on the original Hawaiian BC we can pretty well give up on the idea he's not a natural-born US citizen. Both easy fixes if The Great Usurper would just go ahead and release those documents. It would be a lot cheaper than paying over a million dollars to conceal them.


RedGraham
Comment posted November 2, 2009 @ 4:48 pm

The KGB left Russia (& moved to Washington, DC?). Freedom OF Religion now exists in Russia. Russia has run-off elections. Seems Russia is indeed more democratic than the US these days. Obama is an illegal-alien and a usurper.


Jim
Comment posted November 2, 2009 @ 4:50 pm

Really Red? Thanks for showing how truly idiotic you are. The only thing you know about Russia is what Orly tells you, obviously. Or did you miss who's really running the country?


BigGuy
Comment posted November 2, 2009 @ 4:53 pm

It's actually easier than that. His COLB is prima facie evidence, and unless you can show that it's not authentic, it is full legal proof of where he was born. According to the law, there is no need for long forms or college records.


Anteni
Comment posted November 2, 2009 @ 5:37 pm

Why should anyone show anything to a birther like you or any birther. You have continually lost court case after court case. Also, you guys have proven utterly inept in reading a simple court ruling. Keep making things up. You guys have proven yourselves utterly dishonest time and time again.

Now, your repeating the same nonsense.


Anteni
Comment posted November 2, 2009 @ 5:47 pm

Does Red know the reason why countries have run-off elections. This is just the birthers same strategy. Type any nonsense with the hope that no one will notice that it is just stupid.


AXJ ROCKS
Comment posted November 2, 2009 @ 10:24 pm

The only idiots here are the anti-birthers and Electoral College which accepted the word of a person that has not proven he is eligible to occupy the Office of the President. A supposed certification of live birth that was filed and not accepted is a useless document. Like an application for residency in the USA is useless to prove one is a legal resident. More and more Americans are becoming aware of this and more and more are realizing Obama is taking us down. Just look at CITI Group today. Bank of America is next. Then what?


Jim
Comment posted November 2, 2009 @ 10:30 pm

Let's see, this evening he's calling everyone who doesn't agree with him an idiot. I think the majority know that it's the other way around. Now he's inflating his number of followers. Of course he doesn't understand the internet enough to know… BTW, having trouble paying the bills are you AXJ. Losing web sites? Blaming others as usual, I assume. Yeah, we're watching it start to fall apart. Following Queen Orly down the tubes.


Anteni
Comment posted November 2, 2009 @ 11:58 pm

Man you must be grumpy. What happened did you get up on the wrong side of the bed. The house voted to certify the vote of the Electoral College. AXJ, it seems what is keeping you in reality is your little finger. Before you would post links to your web site, now you are just posting spam. However, I will give you credit for actually taking the time to write comments (even though it is just spam).


AXJ ROCKS
Comment posted November 3, 2009 @ 12:09 pm

ORLY TAITZ asks the OBAMA Administration where are all the AXJ pics and posts of OBAMA' FAMILY?

Why have they all bee deleted starting with the 1959 pic of Stanley Dunham and Obama Sr?

It is true the summer of 1961 pic of Stanley's daughter in a bikini on the beach shows she was not pregnant?

It is true Obama is really Obama Sr.'s second son and was born in Kenya?


chrisjay
Comment posted November 3, 2009 @ 4:34 pm

SHOW US ALL YER PITCHERS!!!!

WHAT ARE YEW HIDING????????

WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


RedGraham
Comment posted November 3, 2009 @ 11:28 pm

Appears USA is the New Russia. see Taitz's question to the court: “Have you ever heard of a lawyer being able to challenge Stalin?” She then launched into the story of how her great uncle was sent to a labor camp in Siberia, and lawyers weren't able to free him. Her great aunt, stricken with grief, slit her own wrists but was rescued by a neighbor. After years and years in Siberia, Taitz's uncle returned to his family, only to die soon after. The moral of the story? “That's what happens when citizens don't have the power to enforce their constitutional rights given by God and given by the Constitution.”
It was the biggest applause line of the day.


RedGraham
Comment posted November 3, 2009 @ 11:30 pm

The Kenyan BCs are also prima facie evidence. Perhaps an authentic Hawaiian BC would trump them all. Wait…


ObamacornLies
Comment posted November 3, 2009 @ 11:54 pm

CAN YOU HEAR US NOWWWWWWWWWWWW?

hahaha
Mr. Deeds leaves Washington!

VIRGINIA…
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/04/us/04vote.htm
Governor – Loss for Democrats

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/ar
Lt. Governor – Loss for Democrats

http://www.wset.com/news/stories/1109/674779.html
Attorney General – Loss for Democrats

NEW JERSEY
http://blogs.usatoday.com/onpolitics/2009/11/ap
Governor – Loss for Democrats

NEW YORK
http://blogs.usatoday.com/onpolitics/2009/11/ny
Mayor – Loss for Democrats

Maybe you will believe these facts. No way you can lie about it!

We took you down, EVEN WITH your fraudulent Acorn votes!


ObamacornLies
Comment posted November 3, 2009 @ 11:57 pm

Posting this personally, FOR YOU!

CAN YOU HEAR US NOWWWWWWWWWWWW?

hahaha
Mr. Deeds leaves Washington!

VIRGINIA…
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/04/us/04vote.htm
Governor – Loss for Democrats

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/ar
Lt. Governor – Loss for Democrats

http://www.wset.com/news/stories/1109/674779.html
Attorney General – Loss for Democrats

NEW JERSEY
http://blogs.usatoday.com/onpolitics/2009/11/ap
Governor – Loss for Democrats

NEW YORK
http://blogs.usatoday.com/onpolitics/2009/11/ny
Mayor – Loss for Democrats

Maybe you will believe these facts. No way you can lie about it!

We took you down, EVEN WITH your fraudulent Acorn votes!


ObamacornLies
Comment posted November 3, 2009 @ 11:58 pm

I just left you some nonsense, up there…
Read it and weep, a sign of what's to come in 2010


RedGraham
Comment posted November 4, 2009 @ 12:04 am

So we are at the same place we started at, more evidence to show he was not born in Hawaii, little to show he actually was born in Hawaii, a magic birth certificate that no one has been allowed to see. It has been sealed along with his school transcripts, remember the press even had to demand that Bush released his school transcripts but now things are different for some reason.


AXJ ROCKS
Comment posted November 4, 2009 @ 1:27 am

New website for Judge Carter. Enjoy anti-birthers:

http://jdocarter.cjb.net/


GunnyRed
Comment posted November 4, 2009 @ 3:04 am

As a student in Indonesia, He is registered as an Indonesian citizen. This makes sense, as indonesia requires citizenship to go to school there, and does not allow dual citizenship. Obama has refused/failed to show he naturalized in the US as an adult. If he hasn't his childhood citizenship was relinquished, he is an indonesian citizen, and any certificate he waves around is as good as Confederate money.


Anteni
Comment posted November 4, 2009 @ 5:22 am

Stop making things. We have to wonder why this moronic conspiracy isn't capturing peoples imagination. Could it be because it is so asininely stupid. When you have to dismiss facts to make arguments, you end up having problems with logical consistency. Anyway, we know you don't care, since you are more concerned with spreading lies.


Anteni
Comment posted November 4, 2009 @ 5:24 am

Why didn't you leave a loss by GOP in a region that has been conservative for over 100 years. Hmmm, I wonder why.


Anteni
Comment posted November 4, 2009 @ 5:25 am

Wow. Captian you for once told half the truth. We will reform you soon.


Anteni
Comment posted November 4, 2009 @ 5:29 am

Why are your records off-limits to Americans. What do you have to hide? It doesn't make sense that you seem to be hiding something. I am honestly starting to believe that you are a spy for some foreign government.


Anteni
Comment posted November 4, 2009 @ 5:32 am

Everything Taitz tells you are third had stories. Man, just go to Taitz house if you are so intrigued by her stories. She will love the attention. She will probably tell you how she has body guards armed with banana's just to protect her.


Killer Kowalski
Comment posted November 4, 2009 @ 8:26 am

Do the birthers have something against IQ's over 60??? The facts are that Barack Obama’s mother married an Indonesian national (Lolo Soetoro) and that they all moved to Indonesia when Barack Obama was 6 years old.

Law No. 62 lists who is an Indonesian Citizen. Most are not relevant. This one is of interest:

(1)A foreign child of less than 5 years age who is adopted by a citizen of the Republic of Indonesia acquires the citizenship of the Republic of Indonesia, if such an adoption is declared legal by the Pengadilan Negeri [state court] at the residence of the person adopting the child.

However, Obama was over 5 years old when he went to Indonesia so it does not apply. Law No. 62 says nothing about a child 5 years or older acquiring citizenship.

The principle of no dual citizenship PREVENTS the acquisition of Indonesian citizenship:

Article 9.

(1)The citizenship of the Republic of Indonesia acquired by a husband is automatically valid for his wife, except if, after the citizenship of the Republic of Indonesia has been acquired, the wife possesses still another nationality. Obama's mama was a US citizen.

Indonesian law is designed to prevent dual citizenship; however, it does so with the full acknowledgment of the laws of other nations. Provisions of Indonesian law already in place deal with dual citizenship, and prohibit acquisition of Indonesian citizenship in that case when dual citizenship would otherwise be created. Therefore, US Law which DOES NOT ALLOW a minor to renounce their citizenship, in no way interferes with Indonesian law.

Your writing is worth less than Confederate money. It is bullshit.


Killer Kowalski
Comment posted November 4, 2009 @ 8:44 am

They are fakes, proven frauds. Prima facie evidence? What a jackass.

http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2009/08/kenyan-b…


AXJ ROCKS
Comment posted November 4, 2009 @ 8:56 am

So once we actually know what citizenship Obama listed is on his college records and what is stated on the original Hawaiian BC we can pretty well give up on the idea he's not a natural-born US citizen. Both easy fixes if The Great Usurper would just go ahead and release those documents. It would be a lot cheaper than paying over a million dollars to conceal them.


GunnyRed
Comment posted November 4, 2009 @ 10:23 am

So where did he attend kindergarten?
His 1-1-68 First grade records list the same DOB as the Hawaiian COLB & Kenyan BCs and the Place of Birth is listed as Honolulu(if Lolo Soetoro did not actually adopt Obama but claimed him as a son Honolulu would be the best option to list as Lolo may not have been to Kenya)
Student Name: Barry Soetoro
Citizenship: Indonesian
Religion: Islam
Parents: Mr. & Mrs. L. Soetoro


Killer Kowalski
Comment posted November 4, 2009 @ 10:48 am

There is NO RECORD of Obama ever having been adopted. The school records in Indonesia were filled out by his stepfather, not Obama. It clearly says he was born in Hawaii. He attended kindergarten in Hawaii. I'm sure you have seen the article by his teacher who discussed his birth in Hawaii with the treating physician. In fact she wrote to her own father about it. What is your comment on his teacher's statement?

http://www.buffalonews.com/494/story/554495.html


bearclaw
Comment posted November 4, 2009 @ 2:55 pm

“Judge Carter is an intelligent man and can see through all this.”

You wrote that. About a week ago. Remember?


chrisjay
Comment posted November 4, 2009 @ 4:17 pm

Congratulations, Cornhole, on your acknowledgement of the elections yesterday. This is what we real Americans mean when we talk about democracy. There was another election last Nov and it's results are every bit as binding as the ones from yesterday's event: you can't pick and choose, like you do in your nose.


Majority Will
Comment posted November 4, 2009 @ 4:56 pm

News Release
LINDA LINGLE
GOVERNOR
_________________________________________________________________________________________________________
CHIYOME LEINAALA FUKINO M.D.
DIRECTOR
Phone: (808) 586-4410
Fax: (808) 586-4444
_________________________________________________________________________________________________________
For Immediate Release: July 27, 2009 09-063
STATEMENT BY HEALTH DIRECTOR CHIYOME FUKINO, M.D.
“I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, Director of the Hawai?i State Department of Health, have seen the original vital
records maintained on file by the Hawai‘i State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama
was born in Hawai‘i and is a natural-born American citizen. I have nothing further to add to this statement
or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago.”
###


Majority Will
Comment posted November 4, 2009 @ 4:58 pm

Facts and logic only make the birfers' heads hurt more.


AXJ ROCKS
Comment posted November 4, 2009 @ 7:27 pm

Another meaningless letter. We want to see the records that were actually accepted, not filed…


bearclaw
Comment posted November 4, 2009 @ 8:01 pm

“Judge Carter is an intelligent man and can see through all this.”

You wrote that. About a week ago. Remember?

We want to see you admit that Judge Carter was right.


bearclaw
Comment posted November 4, 2009 @ 8:09 pm

And there were two elections for seats in the House of Representatives. The odd thing is that the U.S. Constitution requires that members of the House must have been U.S. citizens for at least 7 years. But I didn't hear any demands for the candidates in CA-10 or NY-23 to provide proof of their citizenship.

Oh, the candidates were white.

Nevermind.


bearclaw
Comment posted November 4, 2009 @ 8:12 pm

“Judge Carter is an intelligent man and can see through all this.”

You wrote that. About a week ago. Remember?

So you think Judge Carter is intelligent. Wasn't his Order to Dismiss a wonderful piece of legal reasoning?


GunnyRed
Comment posted November 5, 2009 @ 2:35 am

Depending on what his long copy vault birth certificate states, this may or may not deepen the problem. If it states either of the two hospitals and the hospital records prove that he was in fact born in one of the Hawaiian Hospitals, then the location of his birth will definitely prove he is entitled to be a US Citizen in accordance to the 14th Amendment. This of course does not necessarily give him the necessary status of a natural born citizen.


Anteni
Comment posted November 5, 2009 @ 4:27 am

What I love about birthers' lies is that they inspire people to learn. See the problem that bithers have is that they just don't understand what they are talking about. What I mean is that they start from what they believe and build their deception around that.

A little information for you. States are responsible for keeping vital records including birth certificates. These vital records are important for the states so that various records can be kept about its citizens. The vital records are actually property of the States. Most of the times the vital records are issues to the citizen who is represented by those vital records, and the rest to someone who a direct relationship to that same citizen.

What does this mean. If a state government has the original birth certificate for a person born, then that person by definition is a born-citizen. This obviously includes the Hawaii birth certificate for the president.

It really isn't a complicated issue.

Here is one problem that you have. Either there is no definition for natural-born citizen. Or, anyone born in American territory is a natural-born citizen. However, there are special cases where a person could also be a natural-born citizen.

The America that you believe that exists, doesn't. There aren't two classes of citizens born in America. Remember, one of the founding principle of America is to eliminate the class system with one exception. That exception is those who are born in America (which include the special cases) and those who aren't.

So it is time do drop you disillusion and move on with your life. You disillusion is damaging you ability to reason logically.


Dr. Maloney
Comment posted November 5, 2009 @ 8:48 am

Hey Jackass, A document cannot be filed without being accepted. It would not be on file had it not been accepted. Stay in kindergarten.


Dr. Maloney
Comment posted November 5, 2009 @ 8:50 am

Barbara Nelson of Kenmore will undoubtedly think back to the day he was born. It was Aug. 4, 1961, at Kapi’olani Medical Center for Women & Children in Honolulu.

“I may be the only person left who specifically remembers his birth. His parents are gone, his grandmother is gone, the obstetrician who delivered him is gone,” said Nelson, referring to Dr. Rodney T. West, who died in February at the age of 98. Here’s the story: Nelson was having dinner at the Outrigger Canoe Club on Waikiki Beach with Dr. West, the father of her college friend, Jo-Anne. Making conversation, Nelson turned to Dr. West and said: “‘So, tell me something interesting that happened this week,’” she recalls.

His response: “Well, today, Stanley had a baby. Now that’s something to write home about.”

The new mother was Stanley (later referred to by her middle name of Ann) Dunham, and the baby was Barack Hussein Obama.

“I penned the name on a napkin, and I did write home about it,” said Nelson, knowing that her father, Stanley A. Czurles, director of the Art Education Department at Buffalo State College, would be interested in the “Stanley” connection.

She also remembers Dr. West mentioning that the baby’s father was the first black student at the University of Hawaii and how taken he was by the baby’s name.

“I remember Dr. West saying ‘Barack Hussein Obama, now that’s a musical name,’” said Nelson, who grew up in Kenmore and went to Hawaii in 1959 to be in Jo-Anne’s wedding party. When Nelson was offered a job as a newspaper reporter and photographer at her friend’s wedding reception, it led to her living in Hawaii for 47 years. She returned to Kenmore in 2006.

http://www.buffalonews.com/494/story/554495.html


AXJ ROCKS
Comment posted November 5, 2009 @ 12:26 pm

FILED BIRTH CERTIFICATE NOT VALID IN THE USA! OBAMA IS KENYAN.

Just published report by AXJ-KENYA proves he is the 2nd son of Obama Sr. and was born in Kenya.

If you filed an application and the supporting documentation is not sufficient for it to be accepted what would be the status of your application in the DoH database?

For example, somebody tried to register a birth using an affidavit, and not all required documents were presented at the time. Register can receive your application and file it – it will not be accepted until the remaining documents are submitted as well.


Anteni
Comment posted November 5, 2009 @ 12:56 pm

Yes, and you are stupid enough to attempt to argue that a document can be on file for 40 years without anyone noticing. I have to wonder what other moronic arguments you are going to present.


Anteni
Comment posted November 5, 2009 @ 12:59 pm

See birther have a short attention span. Just look at there arguments.


bearclaw
Comment posted November 5, 2009 @ 1:18 pm

“Judge Carter is an intelligent man and can see through all this.”

You wrote that. About a week ago. Remember?


chrisjay
Comment posted November 5, 2009 @ 6:50 pm

You pulled that out of your ass. A friend of mine got a job in Indonesia several years ago. Upon arrival, he placed both of his kids—–yes, US citizens——-in public school with no problem whatsoever.
This lying thing is what Birfers excel at.


chrisjay
Comment posted November 5, 2009 @ 6:57 pm

A truly chaotic mind.
There is no equivalency between the processing of a typical birth certificate and an application for “residency”.
Your “filed but not accepted” statement is a meaningless non-sequiter.
You are entitled to your opinion re:Obama's performance as POTUS. To all of your opinions, my response is
who cares?


ObamacornLies
Comment posted November 6, 2009 @ 12:17 am

OHHHHH YEAHHHHH!

Thursday, November 5, 2009
Congressmen ask for Obama's birth certificate – U.S. Rep. Nathan Deal and “several colleagues” to ask Obama to release birth certificate

U.S. Rep. Nathan Deal, now a Republican candidate for governor, this morning declared himself in sympathy with those questioning whether President Barack Obama was born in the U.S.A.

The occasion was an online chat the congressman had with supporters this morning. And the question came from Tom Crawford of Capitol Impact.

“Do you believe that Barack Obama is a native-born American citizen who is eligible to serve as president? I am asking because your comments on this issue have been a little ambiguous. I would appreciate your clearing this up.”

At 9:17 a.m., Deal tapped out this:

“I am joining several of my colleagues in the House in writing a letter to the President asking that he release a copy of his birth certificate so we can have an answer to this question.”
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Somehow, you know its coming. That OMG moment is just around the corner. You can feel the inescapable reality creeping up on you. Something will leak. Someone will spill the beans.

“For nothing is hid that shall not be made manifest, nor anything secret that shall not be known and come to light.”
Luke 8:17

Obama “I have nothing to hide but I’m hiding it.”


Anteni
Comment posted November 6, 2009 @ 6:49 pm

One has to wonder how many times Nathan Deal will reverse his position.

An interesting perspective on Nathan Deal.

– quote —
Republican gubernatorial candidate John Oxendine said he believes Obama is a legal U.S. citizen.

“Any serious adult running for governor of Georgia needs to understand that we have a responsibility to do business with the president of United States,” Oxendine said. ” Questioning his citizenship after he has been elected to the highest office in our land is disrespectful.”

Ben Fry, a spokesman for Republican gubernatorial candidate Eric Johnson said, “We take the government of Hawaii at its word when they say the president is eligible to serve.”

– end quote –

It is hard to believe that this position will in anyway help his prospects of securing the Republican gubernatorial, and definitely damage his case as even becoming Governor.


AXJ ROCKS
Comment posted November 7, 2009 @ 2:37 am

Nathan Deal says he’ll ask for Barack Obama’s birth certificate and sends letter to the entire Congress, both Houses, Senate, and Supreme Court!

Published letter states the following:

Dear fellow Congressmen and Women,

It has come to my attention that apparently Mr. Obama has yet not presented a certified copy of his long form birth certificate to the Electoral College and until he does so according to our Constitution he is not eligible to continue occupying the Office of the President.

As an American, Republican, and Congressman I hereby give Mr. Obama till the end of this month to present his birth certificate or resign that position before I request the immediate creation of an emergency investigation into this matter.

I have seen the document published on the internet and do not think it suffices for many reasons among them that it states it has only been “filed” and not “accepted”, it does not state nor the hospital nor doctor, and we have a sworn statement from 2 women in Kenyan stating they were present when you were born there.

Unforutunately Mr. Obama, in a country ruled by the Law this is prima facie evidence for any Court of Law including our Supreme Court that you are not eligible to occupy the Office of the President.

I also hereby inform you Mr. Obama that I have distributed a certified copy of this letter to all my fellow members of Congress and we are awaiting your immediate public reply to this letter.

Sincerely,

Mr. Nathan Deal
Republican Congressman


RedGraham
Comment posted November 7, 2009 @ 2:58 am

Dear Congressman _________,
Barack Obama has still not proven conclusively that he was born in Hawaii. His biological father was a Kenyan-Brit. His mother was not a legal adult and did not meet the age&residency requirement in the new state of Hawaii to confer “natural-born” status on Barack Jr. There have also been credible reports the man some people refer to as president was actually born in Kenya.
Two Birth Certificates have been acquired by attorney Dr. Orly Taitz stating Obama was born in Kenya. At least two African newspapers and an Illinois journal at one time, when Obama was running for U.S. Senate reported he was “Kenyan-born”. In fact his own Grandmother Obama once claimed she was present at his birth in Kenya.
As a boy from age five to ten years Obama lived in Indonesia as the son of Lolo Soetoro his mother's second husband. Mr. Soetoro allegedly adopted young Barack so he could enroll in school as an Indonesian citizen. Obama/Soetoro went to visit his grandparents, the Dunhams, in Hawaii at ten years old and remained there until adulthood.
You have probably heard how Obama has paid well-over a million dollars to lawyers to keep all his school, college and passport records sealed. Indeed the first day in office Obama made a Presidential Proclaimation his records are off-limits to the public. This should have been what's called a “red-flag”.
And still nobody has seen the original Hawaiian Birth Certificate. A few suspect computer images of “Certifications of Live Birth” have been posted on the Internet. Hawaii has a notorious reputation for providing birth documents to foreigners even before statehood including to the first emperor of China. Obama's belated draft registration is reported to be counterfiet as well. Doctor Taitz claimed in court that Obama has used thirty different Social Security Numbers, that's right I said “thirty”. Another red-flag.
The Democratic Party, chaired by Howard Dean, allowed Obama's name on the ballot without verifying his natural-born citizen status which is required by our Constitution. When Nancy Pelosi signed and sent the elector certifications to place Obama on the presidential ballot in 2009 she only nervously signed the one for Hawaii(coincidence?). None of the other forty-nine documents had an original signature and left out the part about the candidate being “costitutionally qualified”.
Former ambassador and presidential candidate Alan Keyes has been at the forefront of the so-called “birther movement”. He and all birthers are met with derision and ignored by the mainstream liberal media. What little exposure we birthers get is ridiculed as crazy, racist and stupid. We just want to know the truth. Singer Pat Boone, actor Chuck Norris, andf author Jerome Corsi have all publicly questioned Obama's legal status to be president.
I hereby accuse Barack H. Obama of being an illegal-alien and usurper ineligible to even run for President of the United States. Further, as a natural-born citizen and combat-veteran I do hereby demand Obama release the documents in question or resign immediately. If he does not comply with this demand I expect his impeachment and removal by congress. Thank you.


Anteni
Comment posted November 7, 2009 @ 4:19 am

Why bother taking time to write such other nonsense. You the problem that moron's like you don't realize is that it was a very simple verification process to confirm the birth certificate was authentic. Yes, this process was completed before the election had started. Anyone, who perpetuates your lies just doesn't understand the implications of their ignorance.


AXJ_SUCKS
Comment posted November 7, 2009 @ 8:03 am

I'd agree with your last sentence that uses the word ignorance if in fact the birthers were actually ignorant. Fact is, they're just plain stupid.


Anteni
Comment posted November 7, 2009 @ 8:46 am

GummyRed, you are an utter moron. His mother remarried, it is not that a complicated issues. Also, you are willing to use a forgery to support your argument. Do you honestly understand the utter nonsensical nature of your arguments, or are you really that stupid.


AXJ ROCKS
Comment posted November 7, 2009 @ 12:53 pm

SUSAN HERBERT will go down in history as the first woman that has actually obligated the Supreme Court to pronounce itself on an appeal from a lower Federal Court in regards to different issues at hand.

Namely, is a woman as equal as a man under the law? Does she have the same rights pro se as any man to appeal a case from a lower Federal Court?

What is exactly understood by a natural born citizen? Does Mr. Obama meet the eligibility requirements to occupy the Office of the President?

Our organization known as Action for Justice (AXJ) is taking these issues very seriously and will soon discover that since the internet did not exist 200 years ago, a copy or facsimile of a document published on the internet is useless document and cannot prove anything, and only an original document to prove that one was in fact born in the United States will have to be produced to the Supreme Court.

Thank you Susan Herbert for bringing this matter to the Supreme Court.

You have once again managed to obligate the other members of the Supreme Court to discuss the Obama Birth Certificate issue and they must declare they have competent jurisdiction first to see the case, and then declare any Law or Action by the Executive null and void since it is unconstitutional and contrary to the natural born clause and Mr. Obama will have no resort but other satisfy the requirements of the Court or Resign.

His Oath to that Office is not proof or evidence of anything because he needs to present a document. An actual true Birth Certificate with the name of the hospital and doctor or midwife that delivered him.

According to common law there had to have been two (2) witnesses to prove someone was actually born where they say they were born.

Judge Carter failed THE AMERICAN PEOPLE miserably when he did not take it upon himself to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States and dismissed the case. It can now be appealed before the Supreme Court as well.

Yes THE AMERICAN PEOPLE do have standing on Appeal before the Supreme Court and yes Magistrate Judge Roberts can be recused because he participated in this matter, and can even be impeached if it is found that Mr. Obama was not eligible to occupy the Office of the President in the first place.

God Bless America!


chrisjay
Comment posted November 7, 2009 @ 1:34 pm

In the Birfer mind quantity trumps quality. It's like a middle school student with a report due, but with nothing of value to say: every teacher knows the excruciation of grading papers written by these children—–Birfers in training.


Anteni
Comment posted November 7, 2009 @ 2:51 pm

That is why documents that are required to prove a person is a natural born citizen are keep by the state health department in the state that person was born.

One of the major principle of American law is all people are innocent until proven guilty. AXJ, Orly Taitz, and others haven't provided no evidence to support their position. However, they attempt to stomp on the laws of America by engaging in slanderous behavior and dubious behavior.

We have a natural born citizen as president of America. He has produced an authenticated America birth certificate, which is all that is required for a natural born citizen.

You lost the election so give it up. Ever court has either refused to hear you argument or have dismissed them with harsh words.

Give it up it is over.


AXJ_SUCKS
Comment posted November 7, 2009 @ 3:21 pm

Have you heard about the stupid birthtards
Beaten down by the facts every time
Have you heard about the stupid birthtards
They're all losers, but they still keep on tryin'

Oooooooh-hooooooo-hooooooo
Oooooooh-ooooooh-hoooooooo

Sit down, take a look at yourselves'
Don't you want to love Obama?
Everyday the people see your lies
You have to face up, you can't run and hide

Have you heard about the stupid birthtards
Beaten down by the facts every time
Have you heard about the stupid birthtards
They're all losers, but they still keep on tryin'

Unlucky in law
Least that's what they say
They lost their brains
And they threw all their thoughts away
They still keep searching
Though there's nothing left
Stake their cost as lost
Now they have to pay the cost

Have you heard about the stupid birthtards
Beaten down by the facts every time
Have you heard about the stupid birthtards
They're all losers, but they still keep on tryin'

“It's not okay”, they frown and say
'Cause this president is driving them crazy
They all show what goes on in their heads
And if you watch then you'll see they're paranoid

Sit down, take a look at yourselves'
Don't you want to love Obama?
Everyday the people sees your lies
You have to face up, you can't run and hide

Have you heard about the stupid birthtards
Beaten down by the facts every time
Have you heard about the stupid birthtards
They're all losers, but they still keep on tryin'

Have you heard about the stupid birthtards

Have you heard about the stupid birthtards

Have you heard about the stupid birthtards

Now tell me have you heard about the stupid birthtards


ImaWrighty
Comment posted November 8, 2009 @ 1:06 pm

What's with all the removed comments?
I didn't know you could remove your comments here…hmmm


RedGraham
Comment posted November 9, 2009 @ 12:10 pm

Some of the moderators got kickbacks from Eric Holder.


bearclaw
Comment posted November 9, 2009 @ 5:17 pm

Wondering who Susan Herbert is? I wondered. I googled “Susan Herbert” and “birther” and, let me tell you, the birthers posting here are rational and succinct by comparison. Susan Herbert apparently believes that she is the real President, has delivered to us our “real” Constitution, and has or will dissolve the U.S. government. Actually, I don't know what she believes because I can't understand her pseudo-legal/philosophical ramblings. Another blogger tries to help:

http://www.tarstarkas.net/blog/2009/10/07/wingn…


chrisjay
Comment posted November 12, 2009 @ 3:49 pm

Yeah, that's why anti-Birther remarks were removed?
You are feeble minded, Red


RedGraham
Comment posted November 13, 2009 @ 2:28 pm

Just as a blind squirrel finds a nut once in awhile antibirthers unwittingly speak the truth on rare occasions & the truth cannot be tolerated by the Obama's people.


RedGraham
Comment posted November 14, 2009 @ 2:46 am

You mean “their” arguments?


RedGraham
Comment posted November 14, 2009 @ 2:50 am

Now is the time to fly our flags upside-down until The Great Usurper-Obama releases his Birth Certificate and college records and comes clean about his citizenship. Barack Obama is clearly an illegal-alien & has no business even running for U.S. President.


caljohnjr
Comment posted November 25, 2009 @ 2:53 pm

what u are describing as a Birth Certificate, (capitalized because it is the name of a document, for you slow people…) is nothing more than an information page. It has no seal, time of birth, attending physicians, etc.
How slow can you be? My birth certificate is basically the same age, and guess what? I can order one and have it in a matter of minutes if I choose….poor mislead liberal freak!


Turk the Strongman
Comment posted November 26, 2009 @ 7:24 am

Your knowledge could fit on the head of a pin. Don't come on to a forum of experts demonstrating how little you know.

The granting of authority to the Department of State to issue a Passport implies that the authority to prescribe the manner in which citizenship must be proved has also been granted. When this authority has been granted to a federal Department or Agency, the rules that the Department or Agency will use are then promulgated as regulations. These regulations are maintained as part of the Code of Federal Regulations (CFR).

The Department of State has issued regulations under CFR22.51.42 that state the following requirements for a citizen to prove birth in the United States:

(a) Primary evidence of birth in the United States. A person born in the United States generally must submit a birth certificate. The birth certificate must show the FULL NAME of the applicant, the applicant’s PLACE AND DATE OF BIRTH, the full name of the PARENT(s), and must be SIGNED by the official custodian of birth records, bear the seal of the issuing office, and show a filing date within one year of the date of birth.

The COLB furnished by Obama carries the seal as required and has had time of birth. There is NO LEGAL REQUIREMENT that a hospital or the name of the attending physician be present — NONE.

The State of Hawaii has issued a Birth Certificate that meets all of the requirements of CFR 22.51.42. That Birth Certificate is certified by the State of Hawaii, and is considered proven by the Laws of the United States. It will be up to anyone who challenges its authenticity to prove, by a preponderance of the evidence, that the Birth Certificate is actually invalid.

There is a very high standard of proof that must be met in order to override the Constitutional ‘Full Faith and Credit’ standard granted to the State of Hawaii in this matter. That standard of proof would require that the complainant show proof that there was an actual fraud committed by the State of Hawaii in the certification of that Birth Certificate, or that the certificate itself was fraudulent. Either way, the burden of proof rests with the complainant — YOU.. Merely making accusations that this may have happened is not sufficient.

This would be true even if a foreign power were to present a Birth Certificate that was claimed to show birth in another country. Under the standard of ‘Full Faith and Credit’ that is specifically provided for in the Constitution, the public records of the State of Hawaii would take precedence over the public records of any foreign power. In order to meet the required burden of proof, the foreign record would not only have to be proven as true, but also the State of Hawaii’s record would have to be proven separately as false.

Demanding President Obama's birth certificate is the 21st century version of 19th century demands of newly freed slaves: Show me your papers. And when they did they were still lynched. Hatred makes you blind — you poor misled right wing dirtbag.


caljohnjr
Comment posted November 28, 2009 @ 11:06 am

What we were discussing has absolutely nothing to do with race….why does it have to always be this for you black people? Oh, I am being presumptious….you are just a sympathizer? Who knows, the only thing is that this “person” is running our country in the ground….you will beg for mercy on that day, you liberal freak!! God bless your poor baby killing, welfare wanting, government give me more soul!!


RedGraham
Comment posted December 17, 2009 @ 2:01 am

This explains why Keyes was so upset when the Obama was (illegally) elected.
An AP reporter stated the following:
Kenyan-born US Senate hopeful, Barrack Obama, appeared set to take over the Illinois Senate seat after his main rival, Jack Ryan, dropped out of the race on Friday night amid a furor over lurid sex club allegations.
This report explains the context of the oft cited debate, between Obama and Keyes in the following Fall, in which Keyes faulted Obama for not being a “natural born citizen”, and in which Obama, by his quick retort,“So what? I am running for Illinois Senator, not the presidency”, self-admitted that he was not eligible for the office. Seeing that an AP reporter is too professional to submit a story which was not based on confirmed sources (ostensibly the Obama campaign in this case), the inference seems inescapable: Obama himself was putting out in 2004, that he was born in Kenya.


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Comment posted December 17, 2009 @ 7:01 am

This explains why Keyes was so upset when the Obama was (illegally) elected.
An AP reporter stated the following:
Kenyan-born US Senate hopeful, Barrack Obama, appeared set to take over the Illinois Senate seat after his main rival, Jack Ryan, dropped out of the race on Friday night amid a furor over lurid sex club allegations.
This report explains the context of the oft cited debate, between Obama and Keyes in the following Fall, in which Keyes faulted Obama for not being a “natural born citizen”, and in which Obama, by his quick retort,“So what? I am running for Illinois Senator, not the presidency”, self-admitted that he was not eligible for the office. Seeing that an AP reporter is too professional to submit a story which was not based on confirmed sources (ostensibly the Obama campaign in this case), the inference seems inescapable: Obama himself was putting out in 2004, that he was born in Kenya.


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What an idiot. An “actual true” birth certificate with the name of the doctor or midwife? Do you even KNOW what the law requires for a birth certificate. I'll tell you.

The Congress has granted the Secretary of State, and by implication the Department of State, the authority to issue Passports under US Code, Title 22, Chapter 4.. The granting of authority to the Department of State to issue a Passport implies that the authority to prescribe the manner in which citizenship must be proved has also been granted.

When this authority has been granted to a federal Department or Agency, the rules that the Department or Agency will use are then promulgated as regulations. These regulations are maintained as part of the Code of Federal Regulations (CFR).
The Department of State has issued regulations under CFR22.51.42 that state the following requirements for a citizen to prove birth in the United States:

(a) Primary evidence of birth in the United States. A person born in the United States generally must submit a birth certificate. The birth certificate must show the full name of the applicant, the applicant’s place and date of birth, the full name of the parent(s), and must be signed by the official custodian of birth records, bear the seal of the issuing office, and show a filing date within one year of the date of birth.
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Under this CFR, a Birth Certificate will be accepted as proper evidence of Jus soli citizenship if it shows the full name of the applicant, the applicants place and date of birth, and the full name of the parent(s). The certificate must be signed by the official custodian of the birth records for that state, and the record must bear the seal of the issuing officer. In addition, the filing date shown on the certificate must be within one year of the date of birth. If all of these requirements are met, the certificate is proven under the CFR and by implication, under the general laws enacted by Congress. In order for that CFR to be over-ridden, wither the CFR would need to be changed, or the Congress would have to specifically change the requirements by legislation.

The State of Hawaii has issued a Birth Certificate that meets all of the requirements of CFR 22.51.42. That Birth Certificate is certified by the State of Hawaii, and is considered proven by the Laws of the United States. It will be up to anyone who challenges its authenticity to prove, by a preponderance of the evidence, that the Birth Certificate is actually invalid.


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Alan Keyes never saw a crazy cause he didn’t love.He’s a real “Nut Job”,and he is well matched by his attorney


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