Black GOP Candidates Mount Serious 2010 Bids Nationwide

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Tuesday, October 06, 2009 at 6:00 am
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Texas Railroad Commissioner Michael Williams at the 2008 GOP Texas State Convention (williamsfortexas.com)

“Let’s talk about race,” wrote Michael Williams.

It was September 22, six days after former President Jimmy Carter suggested that race was one reason for the special political animosity toward President Barack Obama. Williams, the four-term Texas railroad commissioner–a job, he tells everyone, that has everything to do with energy policy and nothing to do with railroads–had already dinged Carter for the remarks. But in a long blog post at his campaign website, Williams went further.

Image by: Matt Mahurin

Image by: Matt Mahurin

“As an African-American son of the South,” wrote Williams, “I grew up in a time and place where you didn’t have to divine intent or deconstruct code words to find racism.” The crisis in America, he explained, was the proliferation of people calling one another “racists” for their position on Obama’s policies. “We have rid our institutions of government of the practice of discrimination; if only we could rid our political discourse of the ugliness that ensues when we ascribe discriminatory motive to statements with no obvious discriminatory aspect.”

There was a nuts-and-bolts political point to this. Williams is one of the nation’s very few African-American Republicans who hold statewide office. He’s running for the U.S. Senate seat expected to be vacated by Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison (R-Tex.), a candidate for governor that year. If elected, he would be the only African-American member of the Senate, as the appointed and scandal-plagued Democrat Roland Burris is retiring next year. That means Williams is threatening to jump out of obscurity and into the position of a credible, high-profile critic of Obama.

“Williams is awesome,” said Erick Erickson, managing editor of RedState.com. “He’s a true rock star in the movement right now. People like him because of his beliefs, not because of his skin color, but there is definitely a bonus to having a black conservative who can be a voice of opposition to the first black President.” One example of Williams’ rock star status came in July, when he joined Liz Cheney as a speaker and guest at the RedState Gathering in Atlanta.

Williams is only the most experienced and best-known African-American Republican candidate out of a pool of them mounting a serious bid sfor national office in 2010. In Colorado, 31-year-old city councilman Ryan Frazier is running for the U.S. Senate seat held by Michael Bennet, a first-time candidate who was appointed by Gov. Bill Ritter (D-Co.) In Florida, Lt. Col. Allen West (Ret.) is making his second bid for a swing seat in Congress held by Rep. Ron Klein (D-Fla.). In western North Carolina, Ret. Col. Lou Huddleston is running against freshman Rep. Larry Kissell (D-N.C.). Reached by TWI, all of them stressed that their campaigns had nothing to do with race. At the same time they pointed out if they got to Congress, the image of the GOP would change immediately, and any attempt to find racism in Obama’s critics would hit some sand traps.

“I don’t know if some of the criticisms President Obama has received have been about veiled prejudices,” Frazier told TWI while on the road to an event in Durango, Col., a small city with a black population of less than one percent. “But when it comes to me, Democrats are not going to be able to use some of those same tactics and rhetoric–which have actually tended to work for them–accusing me of disagreeing with the president because of his race. I’m not one of those Republicans sitting around, questioning the president’s citizenship.”

While Republican strategists have spun some outbreaks of racial dialogue to their advantage–virtually all of them feel that Jimmy Carter’s comments reflected poorly on the former president, not on Republicans–there is a stark awareness that the party’s lack of African-American faces is a problem when opposing the first African-American president. Despite the elevation of RNC Chairman Michael Steele, not many Republicans spoke highly of his attempts to turn racial controversies against the Democrats, such as his suggestion that the White House may have pressured Gov. David Paterson (D-N.Y.) to leave the 2010 campaign because he’s black. As the party has pointed to anti-tax Tea Parties for proof of political momentum, the lack of more African-American spokespeople has been notable.

“It’s hard for a white liberal to call black a Republican a racist,” said Richard Ivory, the editor of HipHopRepublican.com.

Since former Rep. J.C. Watts (R-Okla.) retired in 2002, the party has had no African-American representation in Congress, and that’s led to some missed opportunities. In 2005, when then-Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean joked that Republicans couldn’t match the diversity of a Democratic meeting unless they invited “the hotel staff,” the semi-official Republican response to Dean came from a decidedly low-profile group of eight black Republicans in Mississippi.

In 2006, when the party ran credible African-American candidates in Ohio, Maryland, and Pennsylvania, GOP strategists gleefully turned the race card over on Democrats. Rep. Steny Hoyer (D-Md.), for example, was pilloried by Republicans for saying then-Senate candidate, now RNC Chairman Michael Steele had followed his party “slavishly.” But in a bad year for the party, its top-tier African-American candidates were wiped out.

Black Republicans have no problem portraying Democrats as especially interested in bringing them down. Herman Cain, a 2004 U.S. Senate candidate in Georgia–who lost the primary to now-Sen. Johnny Isakson (R-Ga.)–has claimed that Democrats want him and fellow black Republicans to “stay on the plantation.” The National Black Republican Association called the January 2009 election of Steele “the Democrats’ worst nightmare,” an accurate reflection of the reason some Republican National Committee members gave Steele a shot at the job. In an interview with TWI, Ken Blackwell–who has remained a sought-after conservative speaker since losing a 2006 race for governor of Ohio–argued that Democrats targeted him early to prevent the rise of a powerful black Republican voice.

“When I was re-elected as secretary of state, I got 42 percent of the African-American vote,” Blackwell reminisced. “That just worried the Democrat strategists and leaders. So I got targeted. If I had been running for another term as secretary of state, they wouldn’t have wasted the time on me. But a conservative, African-American governor? That’s problematic.”

Some of the party’s 2010 hopefuls have hurdles to overcome within the party. Neither Williams nor Frazier is the favorite in his respective Senate race. Despite polls showing that either of them would be likely to win their general elections, Williams trails either Lt. Gov. David Dewhurst (R-Tex.) and Attorney General Greg Abbott (R-Tex.), and Frazier trails former Lt. Jane Norton (R-Co.), who entered the race only last month. “Michael Williams is a black candidate for the U.S. Senate in Texas,” said Cal Jillson, a political science professor at Southern Methodist University in Dallas. “How much of a chance would I give him of surviving a runoff with Dewhurst or Abbott? None.”

The prospects are better for Huddleston and West. Privately, Republican strategists suggested that they will not face serious primary challenges, and are strong contenders for support from the National Republican Campaign Committee if they post strong fundraising numbers of their own. West raised more than $550,000 in 2008 for his first race, with what he characterized as “nothing” from the state or national parties, and pulled 45 percent of the vote in a district that gave 48 percent to George W. Bush in 2004 and John McCain in 2008. West relished the idea of arriving in Washington and demanding membership in the Congressional Black Caucus.

“They don’t want that to be out there,” West told TWI. “They don’t want to see empowerment. They want to have entitlement. You undercut the people like the Jesse Jacksons, the James Clyburns, the Maxine Waterses. You know–the John Conyerses, the Diane Watsons. I am their worst nightmare and I understand that. I welcome them to come and engage me on that level.”

Huddleston, who ran and lost a campaign for the North Carolina legislature last year, may be running in a more favorable district. While Rep. Larry Kissell (D-N.C.) easily won the seat in 2008, he was aided by a massive turnout of African-American voters who make up 28 percent of the district. Huddleston said he’d had eyeball-to-eyeball conversations with black voters who split their ballots for Obama, Kissell and him. He also hinted at a possible endorsement from former Secretary of State Colin Powell, whom Huddleston called a “mentor” in his military career.

“He and I have communicated,” said Huddleston. “Let’s leave it at that.”

Alone among the Republican candidates that TWI spoke to, Huddleston balked at the idea of becoming a high-profile, go-to spokesman on racial flare-ups if he got to Congress. Democrats keep their base “stoked” when they “play the race card,” he said. “I will not be a token for anybody. If I’m on your team, you let me on because I can play the position. And if you’re a reporter and you ask me to comment on what Jimmy Carter said about race, I will give you my time. I’ll have the expectation that you come back to me to talk about national security, or about trade, or about one of the issues I actually am running on.”

According to Bruce Bartlett, a conservative economist whose book “Wrong on Race” argued that Republicans should be able to capitalize on Democrats’ weak record on racial progress, Huddleston might have the clearest view of how a black Republican could take advantage of the political scene.

“Not to be crude,” said Bartlett but I think [J.C.] Watts and [former Rep. Gary] Franks (R-Conn.) were always viewed as tokens in the black community. Their election led neither to an increase in voting for Republicans by blacks nor any increased effort by Republicans to attract black votes.”

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crashmodem
Comment posted October 6, 2009 @ 11:33 am

You misidentified Kay Bailey Hutchinson as a Kansan, instead of Texan.


chrisjay
Comment posted October 6, 2009 @ 4:11 pm

Republicans in general and the three or four known black Republicans in particular don't seem to like talking about the charges made by the most famous black Conservative in the modern era, Justice Clarence Thomas. Lest we forget his response to Anita Hill's sexual harrassment charges:”I am being subjected to an electronic LYNCHING”
Oh, and HipHopRepublican.com—-I can hardly wait to check that one out LOL


rob333
Comment posted October 6, 2009 @ 6:24 pm

The strategy should be aimed at neutralizing racial accusations as a leverage producing event.

Once this narrative is fully developed, you depolorize racial animus AND destroy to victim – oppressor narrative.

I think Obama's tenure in the White House is unintentionally achieving this goal.


jose2323
Comment posted October 6, 2009 @ 6:53 pm

Founded in 2004, HipHopRepublican.com is a New York City based political/music blog helmed by a group of young moderate Republican and Libertarian bloggers of all economic and social backgrounds (and independent conservatives) of all colors, all of whom possess diverse viewpoints and hail from various urban regions across the United States.

The blog was started out of a frustration with blind party loyalty and 40-plus years of mismanaged urban polices and a Republican Party that seems to have forgotten about minority and urban issues.

Our hope is that the Republican Party will create and launch an urban agenda that empowers urban and minority Americans not governmental institutions. We also believe that outreach is not pandering but is being responsible for taking action to grow our Party in communities where we are currently under-represented. It is a valid and necessary business module for reaching our overall goals of winning elections and being politically relevant.


Suzanne
Comment posted October 6, 2009 @ 6:54 pm

poor fools!


jose2323
Comment posted October 6, 2009 @ 7:06 pm

Why?

They are fools because they dare to follow there convictions? This “group think mentality” is truly getting scary. So, if you are a minority and you disagree with the Democrat or Progressives you’re a traitor to the race? Perhaps the term “poor fools” would better used to describe those who think minorities should all think as they do.

This is exactly why the Republican Party needs to reach out to minorities more. The left seems to go nuts when these candidates run for office. Democrats have so much going into making the GOP appear racist that anything that appears to show diversity the party they freak out. Sadly, the Republicans are so out to lunch with regards any serious minority outreach that Democrats can easily get away with such accusations.


jose2323
Comment posted October 6, 2009 @ 7:26 pm

One other thing there are many Minorty Republican groups launching on there won without the help of teh party.

http://vietrepublicans.com/ -Vietnamese
http://yhra.wordpress.com/about/ – Hispanic
http://iarcnational.org/ – Indian Republicans
http://www.naira.org/ – Indian
http://blackgop.ning.com/ – Black
http://blackrepublicans.ning.com/ Young Black Republicans

Also on Facebook there are many Asain Republican groups.


chrisjay
Comment posted October 6, 2009 @ 8:14 pm

Well, actually I followed the link to hiphoprepublican and was struck by how many posts it has accumulated indicting black conservatives for ignoring incidents such as Limbaugh calling Obama BOY and basically calling Colin Powell a racist for supporting Obama.
Good luck. You're gonna need it!


Swami_Binkinanda
Comment posted October 6, 2009 @ 8:24 pm

This would be hilarious if it wasn't sad. Maybe it's sad because it is hilarious. When the party in question has three pet colored people it uses to pretend that it is inclusive, it's a joke. Hiphop Republicans? That's a bunch of jokes all piled together that might include Jayme Kennedy and Warren Beatty. Multiethnic Republicans “on there won” are on their own because the party and its members don't like them.
Are the Democrats a shining light? Not on their own, but it is the only party where you don't see overt white supremacism and where there is even a concern about how to bring people up no matter their race or circumstance. Libertarians are white power solipsists in a fantasy realm, and real fiscal conservatives are now on the left.
The GOP has become the White Power Party and has less than a passing familiarity with its own platform, an empty sales pitch they don't even pretend to follow anymore. Liberty from big government, meet the Department of Homeland Security and the Pentagon's Welfare for Southern Indigents program. Lower taxes and freedom, meet the War on Terror. Anti-socialism, meet Goldman Sachs and the Bush family. Religious freedom, meet the American Taliban, hypocritical Southern Baptists and child abusing conservative Opus Dei Catholics who would love to shove their theologies down your families' throats. Meet Ted Haggard, Mark Foley, and Larry Craig.


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ohio_lady
Comment posted October 7, 2009 @ 5:28 pm

Fools,they are. While we black liberals work in the fields for change these house negros pretend to be something they are not. Go head get used. For their sake i hope they are rich dummies and not broke ones oh and by the way when your ready to come back we will be waiting with open arms.


arbyONE
Comment posted October 7, 2009 @ 5:52 pm

Republicans are a tool of BIG BUSINESS in this country in their continuing effort to enslave and dominate average people. That is their only reason for existence. In order to obtain the needed voting power to GET elected, they USE RACISM and RACIST ATTITUDES to recruit southern white racists as their voting block because NORMAL people with any good sense or education would just NEVER vote Republican. So they have to appeal to racists. Because racial hatred is still one of the most STRONGEST emotions that can make people ACT by voting against their own self-interest, just to keep Black people and other minorities oppressed in this country. That is the Republican legacy–appeal to un-educated white racists, basically in the South, to form their basic voting block and get elected. Then get to Washington and actually work on behalf of big business–not the average to poor white people who voted for them.
The poor white people who vote Republican are too stupid to know that they've been USED and don't care as long as they think black people will still be effectively oppressed. Bottom line–there is no place for black people or any other minority in such a dreadful political party as the Republican Party.


keith74
Comment posted October 7, 2009 @ 5:57 pm

This is rediculous…kind of reminds of me of the blind character from the David Chapelle show who thought he was white and the head of the KKK…Don't people know that the right wing republicans are the white racist of America? And that they can single handedly be the cause of many of America's downfalls and worlds recentred hatred of American policy and antics…Republicans think they rule the world and everything in it…and will hate you simply because of the color of your skin..When black people refer to white people as devils…these are the people they are talking about…the republicans..no other race would get nowhere if they had their way..yes maybe one or two as tokens but for the most part…one should think janitor when it comes to upward mobility for blacks if republicans have anything to do with it… They should all just go away…the world isn't like that anymore…heck! The world is majority color…


smat
Comment posted October 7, 2009 @ 6:00 pm

Nothing wrong with this. As black folks climb the ranks of corporate america and academic circles, the old racism excuses for failure begin to fall on def ears. Once we leave the welfare – waiting for a handout mentality – and begin to become big time tax payers we will slowly look at candidates who offer controlled spending policies. We will want far more money spent on those trying to improve their situation instead of those who waddle in thie poverty for generations. No excuses since OPRAH, CONDELEEZA, and numerous others come from poverty and far more extreme times of racism to succeed. Does any black kid in 2009 have an excuse that a black kid didnt have 100x over in 1969?


arbyONE
Comment posted October 7, 2009 @ 6:10 pm

SMAT

If you think racism no longer dominates this country, I'm not sure you're all there. What do you think Tea Parties are? What do you think opposition to good health care is about? What country are you living in? And that tired old line about “black people wanting handouts” is just that–old tired and untrue. I've never wanted ANYONE to give me anything!! I just want them to GET OUT OF MY WAY and stop trying to hinder my effort!


keith74
Comment posted October 7, 2009 @ 7:05 pm

Smat – a few make it but the majority do not..one or two black folk can't be the considered the gyst of an entire race…those few become icons or heroes if you will…people to look up to..but for the most part our people remain in bondage due to repeated cycles of bondage…and dont forget we are only 40 years out of segregation where we were all held down to a certain degree and not allowed freedoms..and just because we were signed out of segregation does not mean that it did not continue behind close doors…my point is..is that it a process that will take time….


keith74
Comment posted October 7, 2009 @ 7:08 pm

The message below was for SMAT


Steve_X
Comment posted October 7, 2009 @ 7:32 pm

It's just too bad that the Republican Party will never support a Black Candidate.


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jose2323
Comment posted October 7, 2009 @ 11:02 pm

For all the Democrats hollow and vindictive rhetoric, demanding answers as to why the GOP is not diverse, it is they who lose should such a reality come to the fore. Believe me when I say this: The last thing the left wants is a conservative version of Maxine Waters!! So, perhaps a simple suggestion might be the following: if you really, really want to piss off a liberal then donate to and support Minority Republican Candidates. After you make a donation, sit back and watch Democrats panic should one ever get elected.


jose2323
Comment posted October 7, 2009 @ 11:06 pm

Listen to the hate and anxiety dripping from “THE HATERS” on here, instead of being happy for thise guys they seek find fault..how shameful! Do soemthing better with your life, stop blaming Republicans for eveything. Maybe you have not heard but Obama got elected and he is spennding this nation into debt, perhaps that should be on your radar?? Ever heard of debt?


jose2323
Comment posted October 7, 2009 @ 11:13 pm

*Black Media Bias Blog Watch*

The purpose of this blog is to focus on the various media messages that are crafted by and streamed toward the Black Community by people who have a certain agenda in doing so. They are waging a campaign to amplify their own ideology where the conditions in our community are as their narrative indicates. They are the new media arm of the machine that is increasingly dominating our community but seeking to reduce its accountability for outcomes there in. They prefer unity over introspection.

http://bqpfrc-bias.blogspot.com/


Steve_X
Comment posted October 8, 2009 @ 3:07 am

Didja hear that, Black Republicans? The GOP will support you the same way that you support Michael Steele and Alan Keyes. If you seriously think that minorities (especially Black voters) will consider the GOP when the Rush Limbaugh tells the Black RNC chairman to stay in his place, then I've got a bridge to sell you. The fact that he considers every Black person that voted for Obama a racist is just the icing on the cake. The fact that no Republican has ever stood up to Limbaugh's insanely hateful rhetoric would be the candles that sit in the icing on the cake. Alas, not even Colin Powell is safe from Limbaugh's race baiting. Is it really any wonder why the extreme majority of Black voters won't touch the GOP with a ten-foot pole?

And do I even need to say anything about Alan Keyes? He's a Black Republican, and he has never gotten ANY support from the party. How many failed Presidential and Senate bids is he up to now? I lost count around '04 when he was slaughtered by Obama in the Senate race in Illinois. Combine that with the core of the GOP being taken over by the South, and you've got a recipe for a lily-White GOP for years to come.


jabailo
Comment posted October 8, 2009 @ 4:11 am

In many districts black family income exceeds that of other ethnic groups. They have good reason to support low taxes and minimal government intrusion. Many blacks are also small business owners and entreprenuers, working hard on Main Street. Big Establishment Liberals like Joe Biden have left small business excluded from the stimulus while shoveling billions to their cronies. It's just and natural for working and middle class people all over this country to vote Republican.


Piepiepie
Comment posted October 8, 2009 @ 7:55 am

Exactly.


Piepiepie
Comment posted October 8, 2009 @ 8:01 am

than your site and philosophy is ill-titled if on the one-hand you hand over loyalty to a party that offers nothing to the agenda you claim to be interested in, and on the other you complain about blind party loyalty.

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vjh1968
Comment posted October 8, 2009 @ 1:32 pm

You obviously have no clue what you are talking about, Steve X. Rush is not a racist. I listen to him every day. You probably are a racist because you put an X after your name like the evil and racist Malcolm X. Colin Powell is a RINO who voted for Obama so he is not a great example. Alan Keyes is a great American who runs from CHICAGO. Hello, when is the last time you heard of a push for any Republican from there??? They are NOT going to win in that corrupt cesspool of a city. Rush has never told Michael Steele to “stay in his place”, you totally made that up and the fact that you are saying such insanely hateful things just proves that you are a full blown racist. Time to confess!


vjh1968
Comment posted October 8, 2009 @ 1:34 pm

Then you need to vote Republican! Why don't you try actually attending a tea party and guess what??? There are actually black people there! Get a clue before you just spew Democrap talking points!


vjh1968
Comment posted October 8, 2009 @ 1:35 pm

Oh, my God, you are the worst kind of racist!!!


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That_Darn_Republican
Comment posted October 8, 2009 @ 1:42 pm

Interesting article and it is about time more media outlets disengage the suppression of the reality that blacks are people… not statistics to be utilized whenever socially and politically expedient to advance the cause of social justice. No citizen of the United States should be the trivialized subject of “good press… bad press”. As the last stretch of the campaign to elect the sitting “Afro-American” president, one could easily notice a visible pang of distress in the ranks of the social dissidents on the far left fringe elements. Blacks didn;t tow the idealogical line. I recently dicussed this issue on a recent interview on a conservative talk radio show and what came out of that was there is [in fact] a revenge mode going on for black or hispanic voters who opted to say no to this round at the Kool-Aid dispensary regarding the Yes on Prop 8 ballot measure in California clarifying the language of marriage in the state as being between a man and woman.

This was a core betrayal as far as the left was concerned and proved convincingly that you can lead a man to the Kool Aid, but you can't make him drink. In my district there is a widely spread ethnic demographic from Asian, middle class White, Black and Hispanic and no one is forcing them to admit the things they are sharing with me. People want to be free… free from idealogical oppression and tampering of these big-brained coffeehouse philosophers in the halls of academia who somehow feel they know what's best for American's – clearly there are two people that live in this country… American's, and people who live here. The latter have no vested loyalty in the nation that secures the blessings of liberties they take for granted every day. More and more blacks [not Afro-American] are shaking the Kool-Aid victimology “high” and are realizing they have a heritage and a say in their destiny as well as a birthright in freedom and want their inheritance. I say let them have life, and have it more abundantly.

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California 39th District


jellyjean24
Comment posted October 8, 2009 @ 2:03 pm

Wish I lived in Texas so that I could vote for you. Go get 'em. God Bless you.


jellyjean24
Comment posted October 8, 2009 @ 2:17 pm

Are you crazy? I am a Republican and consertative. I would gladly vote for anyone with most of the same values as I have. As soon as we stop putting race in front of “American” we will be a “united” country. I don't care about color. I care about the heart and soul of the person. Democrats have done more to harm the poor than any Republican ever has. Forget about race and the race card, and look at them as an American that is interested in Freedom, Liberty, and Justice for all.


Steve_X
Comment posted October 8, 2009 @ 2:57 pm

“Rush has never told Michael Steele to “stay in his place”, you totally made that up”

Wrong again: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0309/19498…

“You probably are a racist because you put an X after your name like the evil and racist Malcolm X.”

This is officially the stupidest thing that I've ever read in my life. I won't even dignify this stupid shit with a response because the English language doesn't make words to point out just how fucking stupid this is.

And by calling Colin Powell a RINO you just proved my point: Republicans will never support an Black candidate, because no black candidate will ever be conservative (read: hateful) enough to ever gain any traction in the party. If you think for a second that the party of birfers tea baggers, deathers and other assorted loons will accept a dark skinned man as President, you've got another thing coming.

“and the fact that you are saying such insanely hateful things just proves that you are a full blown racist. Time to confess!”

So…me calling out Rush Limbaugh like the hateful bigot that he is makes ME the racist? I suggest that you go look up the definition of that word in a dictionary. Here's a hint: it doesn't mean what tea baggers and tea partiers think it means.


vjh1968
Comment posted October 8, 2009 @ 3:59 pm

The article proved nothing except that people like you will look for racism in every little thing that any white person says. Michelle Obama came from slave roots and she is first lady of the United States. Have we not come full circle? Don't you think it is time to stop falling back on the tired and worn out racially charged attacks on people when you only make yourself smaller? I challenge you to listen to Rush and take off the blinders that have been put on you by the Democrat party. You might actually learn something.


vjh1968
Comment posted October 8, 2009 @ 4:02 pm

Go Michael Williams! You can win this one! Time for Ms. Kay to go. She is too Beltway!


vjh1968
Comment posted October 8, 2009 @ 4:04 pm

Excellent Comment! “More and more blacks [not Afro-American] are shaking the Kool-Aid victimology “high” and are realizing they have a heritage and a say in their destiny as well as a birthright in freedom and want their inheritance. I say let them have life, and have it more abundantly.” AMEN!!!


That_Darn_Republican
Comment posted October 8, 2009 @ 5:23 pm

Thanks… I appreciate the sentiment.


Jen
Comment posted October 8, 2009 @ 5:24 pm

How credible a critic of President Obama is has nothing to do with colour and everything to do with content. Unfortunately for the GOP, they keep letting inmates run the asylum, so any rational criticism gets drowned out in the Czars-Ayers ghostwriting-fascist-communist-marxist-Hitler demogoguery that we keep hearing about.

Look at it this way… how credible is Alan Keyes?


Jen
Comment posted October 8, 2009 @ 5:33 pm

Just a suggestion, but credibility would be gained through losing the buzzwords… “Kool-aid”, “Socialism” “America is under attack”, pretty much the entire “us vs. them” mentality.

But what do I know… I just have a “a poor education with meaningless liberals arts degree”.

It's beyond time to get serious and buzzwords and fear-mongering only work for so long.


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Comment posted October 8, 2009 @ 5:35 pm

yes Jose, I have heard of debt… I remember thinking of exactly that subject with the GOP Congress and White House was conducting 2 wars and pushing for more tax cuts and increased domestic spending.

Sorry, but the GOP has shot their wad on the fiscal conservative front for anyone with even a short memory.


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Keyes ran from Illinois, not Chicago. And he didn't win not because he is a black Republican but because he is a fear-mongering dingbat.


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Where in the HELL were you people for 8 damn years?

You cry about freedom… where were you for 8 damn years?

You cry about spending… where were you for 8 damn years?

Or is all the stuff the tea-partiers carp about alright so long as it is Republicans doing it?


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Problem1: Republicans do NOT come into African-American communities to ask for their vote!

In the 40 years that I have been a registered voter, I have YET to see…or meet..a Republican candidate in my neighboorhood to ask me for my vote.

Problem 2: Republicans do not address the issues that are important to my neighboorhood!

The GOP pushes for tax breaks for the wealthy…..but in my neighboorhood, no one is working a livable wage in order to PAY taxes! Republicans want to increase defense spending….but in order to defend the American way of life, they want to cut education spending…or change it so that minorities won't have access….and wealthy Caucasians don't pay to send their children to private schools. Republicans feel that racism doesn't exist….but look at the racist sentiments professed by their so-called media outlets – FOX, Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity…..they disparage black people as monolithic thinkers…..but those of us who CAN think DO see the difference in their philosophies!! Republicans BOOED Colin Powell at the GOP National Convention when the General stated (correctly) that the GOP needs to embrace Affirmmative Action!

Problem 3: Republicans consistently change their policies in favor of the wealthy…and against the American PEOPLE!!

Note the GOP's stance on Health Care: Tax Cuts that favor insurance companies! The GOP has YET to address insurance companies' persistent DENIAL of claims due to pre-existing conditions….and the refusal to embrace the idea of universal health care! Note the GOP's stance on housing and redlining: they have consistently pilloried the CRA as reasons for the housing bubble…..but did not restrict the sub-prime mortgage market as needed due to the increased PROFIT motive! Note the GOP's stance on home forclosures: The banks will consistently profit from foreclosures but the American public will continue to suffer!

Problem 4: Black Republicans must KOWTOW to the party line or be discredited! If a black Republican comes out for universal health care, Affirmative Action, better educational opportunities WITHOUT the profit motive, keeping jobs in America, greater diversity in the work place…..issues that resonate with the preponderance of the American public……that person will be totally discredited by the party. Besides….those that are there arwe tokenized by the party itself!!

Problem 5: Republican policies ALIENATE minority voters!!

See problem 4 – and add the Hispanic policies that the GOP expounds to the equation…..and note the alienation that is occurring. The GOP is basically known as the “Southern White People's Party”…for the GOP is failing to note the changing demographic of the nation. Saying “We want our country back!” is decrying the racism that is still persistent in this country..and denies the fact that minorities are as much AMERICANS as Caucasians are!

GOP has a lot of work to do….and Michael Steele, Ken Blackwell, Clarence Thomas WON'T be the ones to address the problems; they'll just be additional fodder to the GOP plantation!!


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I have listened to Rush; I've even called in! Limbaugh IS racist! He had told Michael Steele to “get in his place!” Limbaugh went after Colin Powell, saying that he wasn't a true Republican because he thought outside the “normal, whote” Republican mantra! Lest you forget Limbaugh's foray into sports on ESPN….when he marginalized Donovan McNabb??

You are expounding revisionist history….for you are not stating the ENTIRE fact: a) Malcolm X, aafter making his pilgrimage to Mecca prior to his assassination, renounced the teachings of Elijah Muhammad, and migrated towards a more moderate form of the Islamic religion! b) Alan Keyes has YET to gain support from the GOP….and Keyes is NOT from Illinois, but from Maryland! Keyes was an opportunist sesking political office from Illinois; he was not versed in the concerns of the Illinois populace!

Those that forget their history are DOOMED to repeat it!!


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The nation has YET to come full circle; it has yet to evolve! The racial attacks have come from those who believe that the Constitution is an all-inclusive document! If you read it, you will find that minorities were not considered to be human beings, that slaves could be imported after 1808 at a price of $10/head (Article 1, Section 9: The Migration or Importation of such Persons as any of the States now existing shall think proper to admit, shall not be prohibited by the Congress prior to the Year one thousand eight hundred and eight, but a tax or duty may be imposed on such Importation, not exceeding ten dollars for each Person.)

I've listened to Rush, Hannity, Beck, Larry Elder, Michael Savage, and others of the ilk; it really pains me that people can't see past their hatred of human beings just because they are different……and can THINK for themselves! Please, don be a sheep….for in the end, you'll be sheared…and eaten!!!


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Being intellectually honest… credibility is established when you have a credible position on a real topic to which I believe I have established. However, it does look like we have a difference of opinion when citations are made that hit home. Whether they are rhetorical or matter-of-factly… your claims I used “attack” or “socialism” come now, I used no such inflammatory language. But I do know human nature… people get riled when you hit them pretty close to the mark. This is America – we call a spade a spade here.

I will challenge you on this though… if your language is important, why doesn't the democrat leadership post the bills online so the public can read them? Tactically though I could see how such a thing could present a problem for the deliberate word-smithing of the the “do as I say, not as I do” crowd of the left. But who am I [after all]? I'm just John Q. Citizen and couldn't possibly be so savvy as to detect the complex and sophisticated mind that weaves so much chicanery and deception from of some these highly-evolved life-forms on the far left, nahh… not at all.


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The Klan and other white nationalist/supremacist groups, including anti-government militias and neo-Confederates, tend to be Ron Paul supporters/Libertarians, actually. Republicans tend to focus on more generalized racial resentments and nativist sentiments.


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And let's not forget the birthers, the racist signs at the tea prties, the “Citizen grand juries” (aka lynch mobs)…the list goes on an on.


Steve_X
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Of course I've heard of debt. I knew about debt way back in the 80s, when Reagan tripled the national deficit. I also became more acquainted with debt during the Bush years when he turned the Clinton (D-AR) surplus into the biggest deficit the nation had ever seen.

Funny how conservatives only complain about debt when it's a Democrat doing the spending. I wonder where all of those tea-partiers were from 2001-2009?


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Comment posted October 8, 2009 @ 7:49 pm

I have listened to Rush Limbuagh, and the only thing he does for me is remind me why I'm a liberal that votes for Democrats. And I'm sure that the party of “Barack the Magic Negro” has many things to tell me about racially charged attacks.

And the name of the party is “Democratic.” By purposefully getting names wrong in order to spite people you only make yourself smaller.


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First of all, I'm pretty sure Jen was using “socialism” and “America is under attack” as general examples of nonsensical fear-mongering and demagoguery used by wingnuts like you in addition to the specific example of the childish and excessive use of “Kool-Aid.” Second of all, no, you actually wouldn't be able to understand much of the language in many pieces of legislation, including the health reform bill under debate. There is a lot technical and legalistic language that is incomprehensible to most people (including many members of Congress, who have professional staff for that purpose). And when Sen. Roberts (R-Kansas) openly admits that he wants the bill posted online so that the insurance company lobbyists who fund the campaigns of the Baucuses and Grassleys in the Senate (and often write a lot of legislation) have a chance to analyze the bill, or when Republicans attack Obama for not posting a bill that allows women to sue employers when they discover discriminatory practices (something the conservatives on the Supreme Court, who range from apathetic to hostile to civil rights and prohibitions against discrimination, made necessary) online for five days before signing it, you lose most of the moral authority on the issue. I support posting bills online, as many of them are, but not when it is done as a transparent delay tactic or at the bidding of their lobbyist financiers or with what should be completely uncontroversial pieces of legislation like the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act.

Also, you shouldn't endorse bigotry against homosexuals.


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Joe Biden didn't write the stimulus bill and the largest piece of the bill was a tax cut for working Americans. That is only a small part of how asinine and nonsensical your comment is.


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Maybe when Republicans stop the racist attacks on Michelle Obama, like comparing her to a gorilla (http://tinyurl.com/ks7she) and calling her and the president “uppity” (http://tinyurl.com/5szf6m), we can celebrate how far we've come to a greater extent. And when the majority of the Republican Party questions the very legitimacy of President Obama's claim to be an American citizen, as he “isn't one of us” (hint, hint), your argument is completely hollow.


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Brendan,

You helped validate my point… you believe that somehow “legalese” precludes the average person's ability to break down and understand what they post. Apparently you may have missed the million plus who marched on D.C. or the TEA events that continue to spring across our nation because they did read, cogitate, and judge the content of the bill… and found it unacceptable on its face. Now congressional democrats don't want to post bill – does that require a degree in rocket science to figure out? No… they have been exposed, it's that simple. Now you made rank projections about the Supreme Court that I can't lend any credence to. I cannot understand you somehow considering in any way, shape or form that simply adding time for congress to read a bill and post it online in the mean time somehow is a delay tactic is a bit incredulous. You have no civil right to health care provided by the federal government anymore than you do have the federal government equivocate a behavior with someone's ehtnicity… simply foolish.


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I'm curious if these Black Republicans know they will be required to give up any new policy ideas they have for the good of the party. Republicans do one thing well and that's follow orders from Limbaugh or Beck. And what they want is a Republican majority bowing to their every command. No matter if it takes our Country down the toilet or not.
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The tea parties didn't read the contents of “the bill” since there still isn't one health care bill — there are 5 different committee versions and during the summer there were 4 versions.


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@mainer

You are presuming the TEA parties started yesterday… HR3200 has been available to read for some time. I have the entire bill in PDF format, however the committee bills are NEW – please explain why Pelosi and Reid are reneging on their promise for transparency? Before they were all too happy to put the bills up. Now they FEAR the TEA party patriots who demand accountability from those who are elected to serve on their behalf, not think for. It seems to me like congressional dems hands have been forced by the public and their progressive back-door antics have been vetted – they can't lie forever.


brendanm
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Okay, now I think you're just an unserious, fringe crank. Not only do you inflate the numbers of teabaggers who, in an attempt to exploit 9/11, descended upon D.C. to wave insane and often racist signs by an absurd margin (70,000 = 1 to 2 million in wingnut math?), but you claim that these angry clowns were objecting to actual provisions within proposed health care legislation. You might be able to convince the people stupid and ignorant enough to vote for you that President Obama and the Democrats in Congress want to subject their white grandmothers and babies to death panels, euthanasia, eugenics, and rationing, and that “Obamacare” will give undocumented immigrants free health care while potentially denying care for Republicans and mandating forced abortions and sex changes, and all the other nonsense spewed by right-wing demagogues and paranoid hacks, but don't you dare try to pull that bullshit with me.

If you don't know enough about the Supreme Court and their actions in the Lilly Ledbetter case and others, I'm not going to sit here and educate you. I didn't call health care a civil right, though as the Universal Declaration of Human Rights declares, it is a human right. As for “equivocat[ing] a behavior with someone's ehtnicity,” I'm not sure what you mean (are you trying to comment on affirmative action? hate crimes?).

As for the delay tactic claim, it would be more than a little disingenuous to deny the goals and tactics of the Republicans and the corporatist, conservative Democrats. The online posting of the final bill for 72 hours to be voted on and the legislative language would mean weeks of delay from the end of the writing and debate and amendment process before the final committee vote, which is unprecedented and a pointless delay.


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@brendan

Ok, now that you are done with your globalist meltdown… I'll say this. There was nothing of value in you last retort. Just baseless idealogical fluff that is only important to your corner of the coffeehouse – so, stop it, for your own sake. You made an idle projection that somehow Americans are bound by the international perception of the value of so called “human rights”… you'd be wrong. I know minds like yours retreat to the ranks of global consensus to rinse yourself off and make believe that any of those far flung machinations actually have any value in real world, after all, talk is cheap, but projection is [well] cheaper. Ledbetter is just a prcedent… congress is sworn to uphold the Constitution and protect us from foes both foreign and domestic, well we have a standing army for the external threats – but for you wheat grass sipping egomaniacs, congress was supposed to stand in the gap. Their oath does not in any way make them beholden to preserve the subjectivity of precedent, though it is widely held fact that all of your ill gotten social gains have been by such chicanery. However, that is not to say there are good precedents and pad precedents, we a nations of moral laws and convictions and that will never change not subject to subjective engagement by the socially licentious – who did you possibly think you were fooling with that misguided diatribe of yours. I am sorry you feel clarity is less important that rushing a bill through without reading it simply for the expressed purposed of “overwhelming the system” ergo Cloward-Piven, that is all this is. Shove a bunch of BS on the desk of lawmakers and intimidate them from action… ha! Surely you jest?

Now the liars don't want to post it up because vigilant citizens vetted the unconstitutional legislation. Lastly… try to dumb down the numbers as you wish – you do so at your own peril, it won't change the landscape any. Between 1.5 and 1.7 million citizens regardless of political background marched on D.C. – sorry that bothers you and sorry conservatives and blue dog dems are not in a rush to add more reckless spending on the the national deficit. You want healthcare… buy it yourself, or excersize you most basic American liberty and move where you can get it.


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