Tea Party Patriots vs. Tea Party Express

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Friday, October 02, 2009 at 1:50 pm

I reported yesterday that there was some friction between the Tea Party Patriots and Our Country Deserves Better PAC, the organization that launched the Tea Party Express. Today, I confirmed that the discord is real, and that Amy Kremer, formerly a national coordinator of Tea Party Patriots, was pushed out last week because of her decision to join the upcoming Tea Party Express tour.

“As an organization, we do our best to be completely nonpartisan,” said Mark Meckler, a national coordinator for Tea Party Patriots. “That’s one of things that’s allowed us to survive when we were called Republican tools. Tea Party Patriots are very dissatisfied with the Republican Party — we have nothing against Our Country Deserves Better PAC, but they raise money for Republicans.”

Meckler did say that the antics of Mark Williams, the former radio host who has become a spokesman for Tea Party Express — and is often identified as a “Tea Party leader” because of this — played a role in the pushback.

“Williams has a tendency to go out to national media and say exceptionally inflammatory things,” said Meckler. “That can lead to the Tea Party movement being painted by the left as a bunch of racists. And that’s not the Tea Party movement.”

Joe Wierzbicki of OCDB disputed my characterization of the group as “Republican-centric” and “late comers” to the Tea Party movement.

“We had 2008 Libertarian Vice Presidential Candidate Wayne Allen Root speaking in Las Vegas,” said Wierzbicki, “had Independents AND Democrats speak at the various tea party rallies.” And he provided evidence that OCDB had endorsed Tea Parties from the beginning. Still, members of Tea Party Patriots argued that they had brought OCDB into the actual day-to-day of the Tea Parties, and that Williams was taking credit for a movement he had not started.

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Comment posted October 2, 2009 @ 6:20 pm

Hahahahaha.


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Comment posted October 2, 2009 @ 6:27 pm

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brendanm
Comment posted October 2, 2009 @ 7:30 pm

Mark Williams made the mistake of being too blatant about his racism. I guess it is an encouraging sign that the teabaggers don't want to be associated with that…


12srw12
Comment posted October 2, 2009 @ 8:56 pm

I have listened to Williams. He is just a mouthpiece for that PAC. I even held my nose and went to that Wierzjerk's blog. First, if anyone thinks they are not GOP then proceed quickly, do not stop to the nearest nut house. Second, I guess he thinks that if he throws a few words up on a blog that makes him top dog at the show. Yeah right, my guess is he lays awake at night trying to figure out how to suck money for his extreme right wing BS. No wonder they lost if they had anything to do with it.Thank God.


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danceswithtrees
Comment posted October 2, 2009 @ 11:20 pm

I like the fact that they are making this an independent platform for showing our disgust to both parties for their lack of looking out for the little guy. I hope the moderates and the left see this and joining us as the unemployment keeps rising and our leaders continue to fiddle..oh and go on Letterman.


Alpha Proffat
Comment posted October 3, 2009 @ 1:34 am

Oooh… Their little teabags have split; it's all loose leaves blowing in the wind, now… Soooo sad…


nolongeramericanidiot
Comment posted October 3, 2009 @ 11:17 pm

“had independents and democrats speaking at various tea party rallies”

What he DIDN'T say is that those tea parties are events that they ask groups to organize and Tea Party Express is the “guest of honor”. THEY don't get the local speakers, volunteers, or participants…they get (true) Tea Party Organizers (or other grassroots groups) to do it for them.

So, while it may be true that there were indies and dems, they weren't invited by Our Country Deserves Better/Tea Party Express.

Grassroots v Big Politics as Usual
It happens on both sides.


refusetobeanidiot
Comment posted October 13, 2009 @ 10:06 pm

The Tea Party is for disgruntled Americans that see our corrupted politicians
and corrupted Constitution and feel we need to get rid of these BA**ARDS
And fix our system.The Democrats and Republicans are equally at fault


carsonkid
Comment posted October 17, 2009 @ 5:42 am

Just clarify all of this… the True Grassroots of conservatism and the start of the Tea Parties was the Ron Paul presidential campaign movement. This can be confiremd because MSM DID cover small amounts of it during Ron Paul's Presidential campaign. The Tea Parties, which started at Vaux Hall in Boston and Boston harbor spread across the country with demostration marches.

There's plenty of videos of proof on YouTube with shots across the nation.

The Tea Party Express by OCDB is an afterthought based on Ron Paul's continued success united people from all walks of life and party affiliations. While the Rigged Duopoly separates and divides the people pushing them to singular ideologies.

Ron Paul and the Grassroots have been getting the message out to Americans across the country AND the current state of the Republican party and Nation, is proving the Paulites RIGHT.


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Andrew
Comment posted December 8, 2009 @ 1:29 am

what a bunch of crap. Tea Partiers are hardly non-partisan. Go to their websites and see for yourself. Their hatred for Obama (yes, that would be the man our country elected President) is totally repugnant. They are tools of the R's or they want the R's to be their beotches, but in NO WAY are the 'Baggers non-partisan.

Sorry Mark, this baby don't fly.


John Gaver
Comment posted January 30, 2010 @ 9:41 pm

In Texas, we have a name for this kind of a contest, which I won't say here (but it begins with the letter “p”). It's all about pride and the ego of the leaders of each group. Everyone wants to take credit, rather than just get the job done. I follow both groups and think that both are of value. It's just a fact of life that those who are able to get such successful groups off the ground are just going to have big egos. But, as the movement grows and joining together becomes beneficial, somebody needs to give. Now, I'll admit that Mark Williams is far from my favored choice to speak for this movement, but the simple fact is that he has more skill at keeping the Tea Party movement in the news than Meckler. It's time for Meckler to suck it up and admit that he just doesn't have the horsepower to lead the movement. Maybe, if we are lucky, someone even better will come along to replace Williams. But then, we'll probably have the same problem with Williams that we have with Meckler. Bummer.


John Gaver
Comment posted January 31, 2010 @ 2:41 am

In Texas, we have a name for this kind of a contest, which I won't say here (but it begins with the letter “p”). It's all about pride and the ego of the leaders of each group. Everyone wants to take credit, rather than just get the job done. I follow both groups and think that both are of value. It's just a fact of life that those who are able to get such successful groups off the ground are just going to have big egos. But, as the movement grows and joining together becomes beneficial, somebody needs to give. Now, I'll admit that Mark Williams is far from my favored choice to speak for this movement, but the simple fact is that he has more skill at keeping the Tea Party movement in the news than Meckler. It's time for Meckler to suck it up and admit that he just doesn't have the horsepower to lead the movement. Maybe, if we are lucky, someone even better will come along to replace Williams. But then, we'll probably have the same problem with Williams that we have with Meckler. Bummer.


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Comment posted July 23, 2010 @ 1:14 am

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Comment posted July 27, 2010 @ 11:55 pm

And you're a racist for calling The Tea Party “teabaggers”. But you're a member of their same race. What causes such confusion?


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