Finance Panel Shoots Down GOP Amendment to Keep Legal Residents From Getting Care

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Thursday, October 01, 2009 at 10:35 pm

Deep into the Senate Finance Committee’s marathon debate over health care reform, Democrats Thursday night killed a GOP proposal that would have forced legal immigrants to wait five years before getting federal subsidies on the proposed state insurance exchanges.

Sen. Jon Kyl (R-Ariz.), sponsor of the amendment, said it would simply align exchange policies with those of Medicaid, which requires the five-year waiting period for legal immigrants. “I would like to preserve the law as it is,” he said.

But Democrats were having none of it. Sen. Robert Menendez (D-N.J.) said the Kyl proposal, aside from treating legal residents like second-class citizens, would also put those folks in the tough position of being forced to buy insurance without lending the means to do so. “That clearly is a Catch 22,” he said.

As Daphne pointed out recently, Republicans have exploited the hot-button immigration issue so successfully in the health reform debate that Finance Committee Democrats have gone so far as to exclude illegal immigrants from buying even unsubsidized insurance on the exchange. It’s purely a political move, for no one — on Capitol Hill or off — has offered a good explanation for how allowing folks to buy insurance coverage from private companies using U.S. dollars could harm the country. Indeed, it would likely keep those people out of emergency rooms, saving taxpayer dollars.

The debate has grown so absurd that it feels, at times, like some voices don’t care to distinguish between legal immigrants and illegal immigrants. As Menendez said, under Kyl’s waiting-period amendment, “legal permanent residents” would be prevented from availing a benefit “that they helped to fund.”

The Kyl amendment fell by a count of 10 to 13, along strict party lines.

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bob_h
Comment posted October 2, 2009 @ 12:26 pm

Republicans have exploited the immigration issue so successfully that their approval among Latins is in single digits.

Does Kyle feel he has to appease the Joe Arpaio crowd back home in AZ?


DelawareBob
Comment posted October 2, 2009 @ 1:49 pm

It's just one thing after another with these illegal aliens. One thing after another. Why can't our immigration laws get ENFORCED? Why can't our legislators see hoe these illegal aliens are destroying this Country?

Illegal aliens have made America the dumping ground for all their illegal alien children, then we have to school them and give them free medical care.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSe3C5vMafM&NR=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_ZnX9JRo5M&NR=1

I for one, am sick and tired of these ILLEGAL ALIENS snubbing their nose at our immigration laws and the many other laws of this Country. If our Federal Government can not ENFORCE our immigration laws, and get these ILLEGAL ALIENS out of this Country, then let the States do it! One way or another, an end has to come to this illegal immigration, and not with AMNESTY! Amnesty will only encourage more ILLEGAL ALIENS to invade our Country and reward those who broke our laws and raped the American taxpayer in many ways…depressing our wages, taking our jobs, overwhelming our schools with their ILLEGAL ALIEN children, driving without a license or car insurance, all the crime from stolen identities to rape, drugs and everything else.

It's time for ZERO TOLERENCE with these ILLEGAL ALIENS. It's time for them get out of this Country and back in their own Country where they belong. When we get rid of the ILLEGAL ALIENS, we will get rid of all the problems that go with them. THAT IS A FACT!

As for this Sen. Menendez, he is what you call a REAL IDIOT!


strangely_enough
Comment posted October 2, 2009 @ 5:01 pm

You do realize they are talking about “legal residents,” right? The people who did the right thing?


FHman
Comment posted October 3, 2009 @ 12:19 am

DelawareBob,

Why don't you read the article before spouting off. The fact that you go off ranting at illegal aliens when the article is about legal residents, just makes you look odious and ignorant.

Perhaps we should instigate some reverse immigration policies in the USA. We could export people whose minds have shrivelled up and stopped working from watching too many TV pundits (such as yourself). I hear North Korea is willing to take all of them for a nominal fee ;)


MaryJay
Comment posted October 3, 2009 @ 3:39 pm

Even legal immigrants should not get federal subsidies the minute they touch US soil. It is unfair to native-born Americans who have paid taxes to support our social services all their lives. Why, for instance, should a legal immigrant's grandmother get to collect Social Security immediately? I have paid into the SS system for 30 years and I still have 18 more years to go before I can collect. Why should someone's grandma who never paid anything at all start collecting immediately? The Kyl proposal was reasonable as well as showed a rare sense of protectiveness toward the interests of native-born Americans (which we rarely see from our “representatives.”)

You can't have open borders and a welfare state. We are bankrupt and will become even more bankrupt with “representatives” like this. +


MaryJay
Comment posted October 3, 2009 @ 3:40 pm

Republicans have exploited the immigration issue so successfully that their approval among Latins is in single digits.
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Maybe “Latins” should be forced to decide who they are most loyal to: their “race” or their country. Right now it seems like the only thing they care about is their “race.”


FHman
Comment posted October 3, 2009 @ 10:02 pm

MaryJay, what on earth are you talking about ?

You can't collect Social Security the “the minute they touch US soil”.

Immigrants have to pay into the system and gain sufficient credits just like the rest of us.

Since you are limited to gaining a maximum of 4 credits per year (regardless of how much one earns) and you need a minimum of 40 credits to collect retirement benefits, an immigrant would have to work at least 10 years to gain those benefits.

If you are going to post an opinion at least back it up with facts.

Oh I'm sorry, I guess the facts don't fit your bigoted world view…


chrisjay
Comment posted October 3, 2009 @ 11:45 pm

in their ignorance and racism, wingers reflexively conflate legal immigrants, illegal immigrants and even latinos whose families have been citizens for generations. That is why latininos have abandoned you in droves. It is not them who are obsessed with race it is you.


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sallystrange
Comment posted October 5, 2009 @ 2:38 am

Oh, so now the Republican party is synonymous with the country? And you wonder why they hate you.


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