Barton’s Greatest Hits: Wind Power Might Mess Up Global Wind Patterns and Make the Earth Warmer

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Friday, September 18, 2009 at 2:55 pm

Speaking of Rep. Joe Barton (R-Texas) — who apparently is weighing a run for the Senate seat being vacated by Kay Bailey Hutchison (R-Texas) — Kate just passed along the all-time money-est Barton quote ever (and that’s saying something) about how wind power might aggravate climate change. From a March 10 House Energy and Commerce Committee hearing:

Wind is God’s way of balancing heat. Wind is the way you shift heat from areas where it’s hotter to areas where it’s cooler. That’s what wind is. Wouldn’t it be ironic if in the interest of global warming we mandated massive switches to energy, which is a finite resource, which slows the winds down, which causes the temperature to go up? Now, I’m not saying that’s going to happen, Mr. Chairman, but that is definitely something on the massive scale. I mean, it does make some sense. You stop something, you can’t transfer that heat, and the heat goes up. It’s just something to think about.

This man was once the chairman of the committee, which this year passed the Waxman-Markey climate bill.

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Thehaymarketbomber
Comment posted September 18, 2009 @ 7:30 pm

I seriously doubt that Congressman Barton is dumb enough to really believe this but he obviously thinks that we are.


rengle
Comment posted September 18, 2009 @ 8:19 pm

Trees and tall buildings get in the way of the wind, should we eliminate those. Where do these people come from, another planet!


rationalthinker7
Comment posted September 18, 2009 @ 8:23 pm

Seems to me that this is as dumb as thinking a few million cars could generate enough carbon emissions to affect climate change. At least he acknowledges that God is in charge and not Democrats or Republicans. He is just as arrogant as you global warming alarmist to think that man could do anything to affect our vast atmosphere.


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K Ackermann
Comment posted September 20, 2009 @ 11:58 am

You don't think so? Here, meet Joe Barton.


Clifton Ealy
Comment posted September 20, 2009 @ 3:54 pm

I'm your standard lefty who's all in favor of wind power. But let's not kid ourselves: this is a real danger, and if you replace “God” by “Nature” in the above quote, it's exactly right (and shows a decent grasp of basic science).

See for instance this (http://www.pnas.org/content/101/46/16115.full) from the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.


monkey99
Comment posted September 20, 2009 @ 9:00 pm

The only quetion I have to ask is, What's he smoking?!


rucio
Comment posted September 21, 2009 @ 5:17 pm

Actually, this is indeed a serious issue, if not on a global level (yet) then certainly in terms of local environments. A simple illustration of how much giant wind turbines affect air flow is the fact that they appear as severe thunderstorms on weather radar.

Here are some papers examining the issue:

Weather response to management of a large wind turbine array – http://www.wind-watch.org/documents/?p=1431

Use of Wind Energy in Power Generation: Some Questions -
http://www.wind-watch.org/documents/?p=675

Can large wind farms affect local meteorology? -
http://www.wind-watch.org/documents/?p=930

Influence of large-scale wind power on global climate -
http://www.wind-watch.org/documents/?p=711

Impact of a large-scale offshore wind farm on meteorology -
http://www.wind-watch.org/documents/?p=931

Climate Impact of Surface Roughness Anomalies – http://www.wind-watch.org/documents/?p=1433


monkey99
Comment posted September 21, 2009 @ 10:13 pm

Barton's comments are preposterous in the extreme. Wind turbines alter weather? I have an easier time believing cow belches contribute significantly to global warming (which, by the way, is also bulldukey).

What's next? Mice running against the rotation of the Earth will cause it to slow?

Obviously, Bonehead Barton is no scientist OR researcher of any kind. Statements like these put him squarely beside Orly Taitz, purveyor of insanity, princess of ridiculousness, queen of the village idiots. He's in good company.


rucio
Comment posted September 21, 2009 @ 10:31 pm

Indeed, as the U.N. reported, the livestock sector accounts for 37% of all human-induced methane, which has 23 times the warming effect of CO2.

That, of course, is only one aspect of cows' contribution to global warming. Animal farming generates 18% of human-induced greenhouse gas emissions as measured in CO2 equivalent. That's more than all transport (cars, trucks, planes, ships, trains). It is also a major source of land and water degradation, as well as a driver for deforestation.

http://www.fao.org/newsroom/en/news/2006/100044…

Barton may be exaggerating or more likely feigning his concern, but his claims are based on actual research.


monkey99
Comment posted September 22, 2009 @ 1:01 am

Why hasn't the case been made before? and why nothing done? Is it on the EPA's list of “things to do”?

Until the case is made, it's all theory. Kind of how the right makes the case for evolution (except that one IS true).


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Mysterycity
Comment posted June 27, 2010 @ 1:29 pm

This is all part of the illegal immigration problem. Too many Mexican illegals equals too many taco food trucks. A switch to Mexican food which is hotter than normal food served from poorly ventilated carbon using food trucks equals significant climate rise in areas that are already hot! Hotter food equals higher temperatures! How can that NOT be true? Stop immigration from hot food eating countries now!


Actual scientist
Comment posted June 28, 2010 @ 2:01 pm

Except you don't need wind, wind is basically a huge number of moles worth of air molecules all moving together in the same direction but kinetic molecular theory shows us that any time two molecules with different temperatures come into contact there will be a heat transfer. But Barton is trying to claim that by having the molecules moved differently with windmills, etc, that the heat will be destroyed. Heat CANNOT be destroyed, just transferred between objects.


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Zack
Comment posted July 15, 2010 @ 9:27 pm

And don't forget the greenhouse gasses emitted after consuming Mexican food.


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Comment posted August 30, 2010 @ 7:11 pm

you fail


Skyglider
Comment posted October 13, 2010 @ 10:12 pm

Actually global climate modeling studies out of M.I.T. support this theory. Too many wind turbines can alter vertical turbulent motion and horizontal heat transport. If you don't know about this type of science or if you are not a scientist maybe you should keep your lame comments to yourself.


LP
Comment posted November 14, 2010 @ 6:30 am

But in that study, wind farm if installed in water there will be a drop in temperatures by one degree Celsius over those regions.


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