Inhofe: It’s Not Worth Suing Obama for His Birth Certificate Because It Would Take Ten Years to Get a Decision

Mr. Inhofe is a disgrace and he should resign immediately. I’m sick and tired of these un-patriotic scumbags spreading lies about President Obama. They want to ruin him, and don’t care if they ruin our country in the process. They make me want to puke!

Like the truth behind the so called “WMD” in Iraq that , opps, never existed? Like the truth that Dick Cheney had images and reports doctored to press for war? Like the truth that Libby and Cheney purposely outted Valerie Plame? Like the truth that George W has family ties with Osama bin Ladin’s family?…

Dude, spend your time worrying about whether or not the world is gonna end Dec 21 2012. You’ll have more fun and you’ll get better answers (and you won’t have to wait 40 years either).

PS. it is a damn shame someone who swore an Oath of Loyalty to the United States of America (not just to the Commander in Chief) is now scared she is actually going to war so she is playing that ridiculous card. Shame on her.

Well put. Short and sweet and deadly accurate.

ROTFLMBO Insane, you are all nuts! they are coming to take you away haha to the funny farm where all is …. well you get it.

and a wittle room with lots of soft pillows.

they issue BOTH. I want to see the “certificate”!

“Why did the FEC, under George Bush, the Federal Body that was responsible in the process not investigate this?”

I’ve answered this elsewhere but the reason is that the handlers didn’t want it investigated.

In reverse order:

“Did the RNC similarly file different forms for McCain? Have parties done so in the past?”

No for McCain – same document. Can’t answer the other question.

“Or maybe, just maybe, the standards that are required by the Feds are different than the State Secretaries? ”

Possibly but I can’t imaging that the one which included the certification wouldn’t be admissible. That would be illogical – especially given their responsibility to vet the candidates.

“And if Pelosi “knew” he was ineligible why would she submit the false statement to the Federal body? ”

That’s a good question. I can only presume that the language is required by the FEC and would have triggered questions if it was missing whereas the States just pencil-whip the paperwork. We’ll see.

………and remember, he’s the smart one from Oklahoma.

Clear evidence in the comments of a crying need for access to mental health care. Paranoia, obsession, delusion, and extreme sore-loserism. Pathetic.

This is some serious conspiracy; you just referred to about 50 public and private institutions in more than one country. Amazing with that much ground covered, not a single person stepped forward with any actual details to blow the whistle. Everyone involved, including GOP officials like the governor of Hawaii have confirmed everything to date. Sounds like grasping for straws…

And for the record, the judges have agreed to hear the case. It is up to the birthers to now produce some evidence. I can’t wait to see what “comes to light”…

S C U M B A G

I don't care if it takes forty years. The truth needs to be determined. If wrongdoing is found, at least the historical record can be corrected and those accountable can be taken to task.

Important update:

Another Obama birth certificate case is going to court. Minutes ago Judge Clay D. Land accepted an emergency hearing for tomorrow(Sept.11) at 2pm in Columbus GA. Flight surgeon Captain Connie Rhodes MD is scheduled to be shipped to Iraq the next day (Sept. 12). She is willing to go to Iraq as long as she knows that the orders going down the chain of command are lawful. Obama has yet to prove his natural-born citizenship. He should.

It is the republican wet dream to regain congress in 2010 so that their first official act in the next congress would be to impeach the President over his birth certificate!

The only damage being done is by having ignorant assholes like Inhofe in our government.

Inhofe is a disgrace and should resign….today!

He hasn't? They've already released his birth certificate… TWICE!

You think there was some kind of conspiracy in 1961 where they planted a fake birth announcement in the Hawaii'an newspapers??

Face the facts. You can accept that he was elected President. GET OVER IT!

Honestly, it’s likely not even that. This whole matter can never be put to rest until it has it’s day in court. That doesn’t give the idea merit; it means that we can finally put the whole mess to bed.

Unfortunately, once these cases are dismissed for lack of evidence, it will be said that “Obama got to the judges too.” That’s the beauty of a conspiracy; it can never really be put to rest. Everyone has just been bought, until the evidence that the birthers are looking for is proven (i.e. “never”).

It would be a little comical to watch, if it wasn’t so sad. The true die-hards have already said that they will never give up. Evidence is just a little inconvenient detail. I say let them all raise their hands, so that we can put tinfoil hats on them and call it a day…

Sorry, I meant “can't accept”.

John – say President Biden, say loud 3 times,
PRESIDENT BIDEN
PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN
PRESIDENT BIDEN!
Careful what you wish for.

What is it going to take for you people to get a life (and a brain). The state of Hawaii has addressed this twice. You obviously don't have enough to do. Come down to New Orleans and help people get back into their houses, use your energy for something useful instead of the stupid conspiracy crap floating around on the internet.

There is nothing important about your delusional updates.
Get the foil off your head, stop being afraid of black men and go
be a detective to find out all the wrongdoing Bush did. That will take
about forty years and by then all you nuts will be dust.

What does Inhofe go on to say after the transcripted portion ends? All I can clearly make out is “For us to have a Senator…”

The class action lawsuit was filed by Capt. Rhodes' lawyer, Orly Taitz. Who has produced not 1 but 2 fake birth certificates for President Obama.
The. End.

The actual, verified birth certificate is in Hawaii. Very easy to locate.
The tin foil hat is obviously far too tight.

“But there's black people there!”
captainsteve

I see the Craigslist obamabots are out in force today.

They can say all the lies they want, but obummer has not established natural-born citizenship. It's not just me saying it. Two Federal judges in two days agree.

Obummer can only hide so long. The truth will eventually come out.

• Original, vault copy birth certificate — Not released — over $1,000,000 spent to conceal — birth certificate — $15.
• Certification of Live Birth — Released – probable counterfeit
• Admitted British/Kenyan citizenship at birth — Admitted
• Hospital of birth — Three hospitals have some claim — 2 in Hawaii 1 in Kenya
• Obama/Dunham marriage license — Not released
• Obama/Dunham divorce — Not released by Obama — released by independent investigators
• Kindergarten records – “lost”
• Soetoro/Dunham marriage license — Not released
• Soetoro adoption records — Not released
• Fransiskus Assisi School School application — not released by Obama — released by independent investigators
• Punahou School records — Not released
• Soetoro/Dunham divorce – concealed by Obama — released by independent investigators
• Selective Service Registration — Released – and proven counterfeit
• Occidental College records — Not released
• Passport — Not released — investigation witness shot dead
• Columbia College records — Not released
• Columbia thesis — “Soviet Nuclear Disarmament” – Not released
• Harvard College records — Not released
• Harvard Law Review articles — None
• Illinois Bar Records — Not released.
• Medical records — Not released
• Illinois State Senate records — None
• Illinois State Senate schedule — “Lost”
• Law practice client list — Not released
• University of Chicago scholarly articles — None

It's such an interesting nexus of xenophobia, anti-cosmopolitanism, (cause Hawaii is just toooo exotic to those who live in “hollers”), racism, and white male chauvinism. It all morphs into “he isn't one of us”, and so no amount of documentation will ever, quell their fears.

It's paranoid. It's neurotic. It's a maladjustment to a changing demographic. It's a case of anti-intellectualism, and fear of the other.

Like I said: no amount of any proof, will rid them of their demons.

It is an illness. Writ L-A-R-G-E ! ! !

You need some serious medication.

Oh..good thing I read the last part…..I thought you were talking about all the laws that were broken by Bush/Cheney. You know like the politicizing of the Justice Dept. by Rove, the treasonous outing of a covert CIA operative, the shredding of the Constitution….I am quite sure you would not like to see anyone get to the truth about any of that or investigate it..right?

i guess he still has some brain left….

you are seriously delusional, dude.

So much junk, half truths, and misinformation. Just let it go.

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL, and did you want that from Ronald Reagan? He in all likelihood didn't have his original “long form” birth certificare”. Hell I can't even get mine! and I would bet, if you have an attack of honestly you dont' have yours either.

Most people don't. If you get a copy from your local Vital Stats office all you are likely to get if you are over 30 is ……….a Certification of live birth. Since when isn't an official state authority issuing a legal document not valid??

Why is the bar higher for a black man? Is Hawaii just toooo exotic? Was Alaska tooo exotic for Ms. Palin? Was being born in Panama (NOT in an embassy-recognized as legitimate US soil abroad) problematic? Didn't seem to bother any of the McCain supporters that HE wasn't a “natural born” citizen.

When do you just suck it up and say, my side lost? When do you realize that saving the economy, creating a viable new economy with the technology of the 21st century and providing even the illiterati with decent health care guarantees are part of a Pro-American, All American plan? Maybe when you're getting that cancer treatment or having that end of life options counseling with your mothers doctors, so you understand what her options are, and how you can best take part in her most critical life decisions. I hope so. Some people are hard of understanding, but we can hope for you.

Once he produces all these documents you say he is concealing, you will have no argument. Its the fact that you are making a controversy out of something that can be easily proven, but the Obama administration has chosen not to prove, that is even giving your birther movement ammo. There are plenty of people smarter than you who have checked into this before you. How convenient for you that anything that was shown is deemed a probable counterfiet, a proven counterfeit, etc. It is obvious why he isn't releasing them, it is to protect those individuals that will be harrassed, threatened, and exploited by your sick movement. You have no interest in the truth. You're still coping with the fact that what you thought would never happened, happened. There are more brilliant conservative minds who have conceded that you have no case. The SCOTUS surely would have taken this up by now if they had any inkling that any of these documents were fake.

How can any intelligent thinking, same American continue to fall for this ridiculous nonsense these people come up with. They are certifiable, all of them. I hope we get health reform soon cause all these people need to be put away and the keys lost.

You poor lunatic. No one could get most of these documents from any individual's life. Even someone like YOU has base privacy rights. I see that you have been nominated as the president of the lunatic fringe today. So here's my advice to you— take a vacation, take a lover, take a mood stabilizer, take your rantings and ravings over to any birther/teabagging picnic you can find.
It's so sad to see such sickness permeate in the weak.

And seriously, what do you hope to gain from his Kindergarten records? The President’s proficiency in finger paint is not really relevant to the presidency? Is that something that you would even inquire about from any other president? Come on…

It's not just Obama now. Did you see where Claire McCaskill got heckled for HER birth certificate?

So I guess it's just Democrats.

your truth is so muddled already. a lot of you are suffering from psychoneurosis..fear of the unknowns..your medication must be too numbing for you to know the truth. pity!

Since when is a legally issued state document not good enough?? Is it because it's Hawaii and not from Holler Junction? Is it because he's black/brown? Is it because he's edjumacated? Is it because his Dad was African? and immigrant who didn't like America enough to stay? or is it because his MOTHER is dead, and you feel free to say any jacked up wacko thing you can because all his family that was there is DEAD?

Shame on you, what a disgrace to human decency you are. Are you gonna go suck a dinosaur egg if and when the court cases agree with what all Americans know and accept; that our state documents are legal and binding.

I've made this point before on another site, and I'll make it again. The Senators representing these birthers are just playing the crowd. They don't have problems with a black man as president, but they know their consituents do. So in public, they do stuff like say “You lie” during an Obama address or go on record supporting legislation that one must prove his/her citizenship to become president. Its easy to do when Democrats have majorites; they know it will never go anywhere (so they will never go on record as questioning the president), but they score points with their constituents (who have proven to be very easily influenced by Fox News, Glenn Beck, et al). Its of course a great plan, because it works. And it helps the Democrats too, because they get to exploit the loons on the right. Senators just care about getting themselves reelected…they don't actually do what is right for the people.

Dave Weigel: Soros'/Rockefeller's hatchet boy.

Why isn't he trying to get the answers to the questions in this FAX?

CNN and the NYT were clearly being deceptive about what HI's governor said, yet for some reason Weigel has no interest in pointing that out. I guess Mr. Soros wouldn't approve.

in the world of the blind…they are still blinds!

captinsteve,

Really?, you're still clinging to this idiotic 'birther' BS?

Wow, what an ignorant idiot you must be.

captinsteve,

Really?, you're still clinging to this idiotic 'birther' BS?

Wow, what an ignorant idiot you must be.

The one fact people tend to forget, is that President Obama has been given probably one of the highest security clearences possible and most likely before Bush left office. So this means that the Bush administration confirmed his birth place prior to granting his clearance. Now does this mean that Bush is involved in the conspiracy?

the presidency of W in 200-2004 is more questionable than any other and he started the war in Iraq;

a war invading a country that was no threat to us; had nothing to do with terrorism; had nothing to do with 9.11; But Governor George W. Bush, when running for president promised to invade Iraq and he kept that promise on false premises

and SCOTUS unconstitutionally usurped the State of Florida's Constitutional right to solely determine the outcome of it's vote and appointed W. POTUS

He didn't really agree. He basically was able to give the appearance that he would support legislation, however, knowing in the back of his mind that it would take years for it to even get through our court systems. He's playing both sides. He plays to his constutients by giving the appearance that he agrees while keeping the status quo among his colleagues. We only hear about the stuff that gets leaked to the press. No one really believes that Republicans all exit right and Democrats all exit left when the day is done, do they?

captainsteve, i demand to see your birth certificate! from all i know, you are a russian spy!

you have no proof of anything . . . just because it's clear as mud in your little pea brain doesn't make it so.

For me, he has rescued my 401k after 8 disastrous years under Bush economic policies. Do you realize how much the market has gone up under President Obama? Or how much it went down under GW Bush?

There are more logical questions than answers.

What hospital was he born in? Who were the witnesses? Who was the doctor? Those answers are only on the long-form (the one that is sealed, even though some say nothing is sealed). Some say it doesn’t exist. But if it doesn’t exist then what did the people see that makes them sure of his birthplace?

Three different COLBs (Certification of Live Birth (short-form)) have been posted online by Factcheck etc. The first 2 had issues and were replaced. The current one has issues too (too detailed for here).

Some sites have said they “examined” the document. Which one, since they are all different? Why are they all modified? Why not release it/them to some independent skeptics? Why not release the long-form?

Three different hospitals have some claim to his birth-place, two in Hawaii, One in Kenya.

Why spend millions of dollars in attorney fees to prevent all documents from being seen?

On top of that, exists the issue of his Kenyan/British father. The constitutional concept of natural-born citizenship was to prevent dual allegiances. Why was that never addressed? They did for McCain (whom I did not support either).

To me there are more serious questions than serious answers. . .so I continue the search. You can to by going to these links.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/11/why_the_…

http://countryfirst.bravehost.com/phpBB3/viewto…

http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/04/aka-o…

http://69.66.218.3/public/patriotsHeartVsObama/…

http://www.friktech.com/2009/born.pdf

And today, new question, why did Nancy Pelosi sign two different campaign documents, one without the usual constitutional eligibility statement?

Check this out. It’s the DNC’s nomination documents (yes plural) for Obama to run for president. Only one is normally filed. In Obama’s case, two were filed. The difference between the two (both signed by Pelosi) is that one omits the standard verbiage swearing constitutional eligibility of the candidate.

“and that the following candidates for President and Vice President of the United States are legally qualified to serve under the provisions of the United States Constitution.”

Very odd.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_c3WtQv44wGc/Sp4O5_BKf…

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_c3WtQv44wGc/Sp4Rx6CcR…

.

The Senator and so-called “citizen need to return return to their respective group home for their daily meds.

Possibly the good people of Oklahoma will fire this lunatic and get someone who will represent the state better.

Then she will be considered in dereliction of her duties and will be courts marshaled — good luck with that.

haha that's good!

Sorry, I didn't run for president.

It's not all that difficult to sue the government for unconstitutional legislation. You just need:

A. A specific piece of legislation. (Helps to have something more clear in mind than vague alcohol and stupidity induced legal windmills)

B. A specific piece of legislation that is somehow unconstitutional. (Helps to read the constitution and the volumes of case law interpreting the thing).

C. Standing. So some sort of injury specifc and unique to you that isn't too far attenuated from this piece of legislation. (You know the thing that no one has had with the whole birther nonsense).

D. A good lawyer who specializes in these kinds of things. There are many in D.C., and yeah you need a specialist for that type of thing. (Someone who is not a real estate agent/dentist/quasi-lawyer)

E. Patience. (Thanks to the oh so genius BS called the War on Drugs, it takes you a while to cram something through the federal courts).

If the long form is required of all Americans then 1/2 the south and mid west would lose 100's of Millions of citizens since they were born at home with only family as witnesses. No Hospital forms only Health Department Form or Family Bibles as proof .

If your parents were born at home are you a citizen ? lol

If you really believe the Leader of the Free World is an Illegal Immigrant? Do something about it? Thought so.

“My President is Black”

Young Jeezy.

Good question. I'd love to know the answer.

Go to these two links and tell me Pelosi didn't know! She was covering her bases for sure!

It’s the DNC’s nomination documents (yes plural) for Obama to run for president. Only one is normally filed. In Obama’s case, two were filed. The difference between the two (both signed by Pelosi) is that one omits the standard verbiage swearing constitutional eligibility of the candidate.

“and that the following candidates for President and Vice President of the United States are legally qualified to serve under the provisions of the United States Constitution.”

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_c3WtQv44wGc/Sp4O5_BKf…

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_c3WtQv44wGc/Sp4Rx6CcR…

.

Scotty! please beam Captainsteve back up. He's a little confused

• Admitted British/Kenyan citizenship at birth — Admitted
WTF does that even mean?
Hospital of birth — Three hospitals have some claim — 2 in Hawaii 1 in Kenya
Please cite, or please stop lying.

People like Senator Inhofe helps these lunatics spread the nonsense for political reasons. They will keep these people in the dark for political gain. The more ignorant they are, the easier it is to control them. What they are not aware of is the fact that they are creating the groundworks for racial tension and possible violent actions in this country. These are old Senators that hae not achieved what President Obama has achieved. These guys have been in the Senate for ever and will never one day become President and they envy this young black man whom never taught will ever become President. They are truly mad at this reality and cannot live with it , so, they are trying to destroy it in order to prevent it from happening again. Racism at its core. Plain and simple.

Guess what? Captainsteve, The earth is not flat, it's round

He's found the incriminating FAX!1! Dispatch the black helicopters!

haha

You do realize the other Sen from Oklahoma, Tom Coburn, says the high schools are overrun with teenage lesbians, right?

Captain, I have learned not to go to blogs that the right wing nuts tell me to go to verify anything. The fact is, President Obama was granted a top secret security clearance by the previuos aadministration and if anything was wrong Dick Cheney and company will have leaked it out by now.

so? what's yer point! i demand to see your bc!

yep! having been through the TSSC process, there's nothing in one's past that won't be found out.

i'm Canadian…as i watch this i feel really sorry for the intelligent people in the States that are being bashed by the retards that the Gop is sending in office…..My advice to you would be seperate yourself from the south….let them become another country…The States of Idiots would be a good name…eventually they will die and then you'll become a great nation again.

I feel that the intelligent people are not having enough kids are the idiots are fucking like rabbits

The answers are logical. The questions, not so much.

RE: Inhofe: It’s Not Worth Suing Obama for His Birth Certificate Because It Would Take Ten Years to Get a Decision

Worth every hour of it to be rid of Puppet Obama and the Evildoers who pull his strings, program his teleprompter, and stimulate his brain.

This one is interesting because it proves that obama documents have been forged. It only needs an answer why.

http://usa-wethepeople.com/2008/12/obama%E2%80%…

Have fun.

Careful criticizing the oBamassiah TOTUS. . .The Craiglist minions are out in force tonight! haha

Can we join you?

Sorry, Captain, but the only thing proven at the other end of that link is that someone posted something on a website.

His sister said he was born at Queens. For a while he was saying Kapi'olani. His grandmother and the Ambassador of Kenya said Coast Province in Kenya.

Like obummer's fake COLB?

BirtherSteve – You birthers really need to get over yourselves, it's getting quite boring. Like when Bush stole the election of 2000 and all you wackos said to just “get over it”, now you really need to get over it. It's over and done with. Nothing is going to change the outcome of the election, and nothing is going to change the fact that a black man is your President, no matter how much you hate it.

Maybe you should try the Truther bandwagon, there may just be something to that one. You know, thermite in the dust, WTC 7, controlled demolition, etc. Wrap your wacky little hands around that one for awhile.

Guess what? You lost the election! Remember this phrase? “Get over it!” Inhofe is just siding with the tinhat group of the current Republican party that is bankrupt of ideas. Republicans had 12 years to help America and all we got was 09/11/01 on President Bush's watch. President Obama hasn't cured cancer, hasn't solved all of the world's problems and won't. Sad that the Republicans are out of ideas and have to resort to fear mongering and smears. Also sad that rush/hannity lead the party now. We need smart, honest Republicans! Know any? Now all we need is for Sarah, the quitter, Palin to tell us how man rode dinosaurs.

No, Captain. I was referring to the items which appear to have been created to advance a baseless claim.

Why hasn't Obama provided even one single shred of proof he was born in the US? That's what dumbocrats don't get and why Republicans are going to win on this issue.

He wishes. LOL

It has been shown over and over he is a citizen.
Proof to a republitard is a lie.

I didn't realize Dick Cheney was still hanging around Washington……

Listen up johncharls (aka fucktard)

His birth cert. has been produced TWICE! AND SHOWN ON TV MULTIPLE TIMES.

Get your head out of your ass already. You and your Reichpublicans are DONE!

Let me guess… and you believe Hussein's Iraqi government had something to do with 9/11?

Maybe CaptainCrazy should take that vacation to Hawaii, and while there visit the Hall of Records in the county where the President was born. There all of the public records are on file for him to look at and get a copy of, including President Obama's birth certificate. CaptainLooneyTunes will be comfortable in the fact that the Pres is really American, and he will have ahad a nice time in the sun as well.

Okay, putting aside the facts about his mother, being a “natural born”citizen, being the primary parent and her parents being the primary caregivers in Mr. Obama’s situation, and that he spent a majority of his minority in this country and his father was “absent” and did not make any attempts to bestow his citizenship on his son; besides the FACTS of the case, no, it does not take two to make a natural born citizen, it only takes being born on US soil. That’s it.

Dred Scott v. Sandford, 60 U.S. 393 (1857): In regard to the “natural born citizen” clause, the dissent states that such citizenship is acquired by place of birth (jus soli), not through blood or lineage (jus sanguinis): The first section of the second article of the Constitution uses the language, ‘a natural born citizen.’ It thus assumes that citizenship may be acquired by birth. Undoubtedly, this language of the Constitution was used in reference to that principle of public law, well understood in this country at the time of the adoption of the Constitution, which referred citizenship to the place of birth.

U.S. Supreme Court: Perkins v. Elg, 307 U.S. 325 (1939):
1. A child born here of alien parentage becomes a citizen of the United States. P. 307 U. S. 328.

2. As municipal law determines how citizenship may be acquired, the same person may possess a dual nationality. P. 307 U. S. 329.

3. A citizen by birth retains his United States citizenship unless deprived of it through the operation of a treaty or congressional enactment or by his voluntary action in conformity with applicable legal principles. P. 307 U. S. 329.

4. It has long been a recognized principle in this country that, if a child born here is taken during minority to the country of his parents’ origin, where his parents resume their former allegiance, he does not thereby lose his citizenship in the United States provided that, on attaining majority, he elects to retain that citizenship and to return to the United States to assume its duties. P. 307 U. S. 329. (etc.)

So, to put it as clearly as possible, any person’s citizenship is based solely on where he is born, until he reaches majority and chooses to change it. That’s it. This is why it is said that many Hispanic women try to have their babies here: it makes the child a US citizen.

So, if it’s not about the birth certificate, what is your argument, anyway?

I'll tell you why he hasn't. He can't. He's hiding something big. The truth will get out.

Obviously you have have only been listening to FOX. Let's face facts: You just can't stand the fact that the President of the US is black! That can be the only reason all these lies keep propagating.

Priceless, StephaneG, just priceless!

Steve, were you abused by a democrat when you were small?
Did a donkey kick you?
Where is YOUR long form birth certificate?
How do we know you aren't a terrorist trying to spread stupidity and angst among
the not so bright frightened racist among us?.
Who witnessed your birth? I don't know who witnessed mine. I too was born in 1961.
Some say Obama's long form bc doesn't exist. Who is some? Is it the same person
who made you paranoid of the female Speaker of the House.
You should really try to indict Bush and Cheney for letting Obama sneak past the FBI,
CIA and Homeland Security. I mean–I know Bush and Cheney would have done ANYTHING
to get Obama elected–Oh wait, No they wouldn't have.
Steve, Steve, Steve . . . .I'm sorry– I'm having too much fun doing this. I have to stop
because I feel I am enabling someone who is helpless against himself.

You just can't stand the fact that The President of the US is black. Be honest!

You just can't stand the fact that the President of the US is black! That can be the only reason all these lies keep propagating.

The inept logic in all of your stupid racist comments is self defeating. Real racists don't care if they're called a racist. The fact that you all call me a racist proves that you know I'm not.

Jim Inhofe is a liar and always has been. His own family had to sue him to get back money he cheated them out of. He was a failure as a mayor of Tulsa, OK; defeated by a sign painter with no political experience. He rode Reagan's coattails into the House and now in the Senate his only aspiration is to become the next Jessie Helms. While he’s not as overtly racist as Helms he’s not as smart either. So far I’ve had the unfortunate experience of living in NC while Helms was in office and now in OK while Inhofe does his ridiculous imitation of a Senator. I hope the people of OK smarten up like the people of NC did and vote the imbecile out.

A Steve with a Brain. Well done!

The Birthers have to be the most incredibly stupid group ever conceived by anyone, anywhere.

I'm curious, Captain; Is Obama's the first big conspiracy you've discovered? For instance, do you believe Americans have walked on the moon? Or, are you and Captain Steve gonna blow that wide open and expose the big lie there, too?

WHOA! That circular il-logic is making me dizzy, Cap!

And, just to add to your list “What has he done for me”: he also lowered my COBRA payments 65%, which is such a big help when you’re unemployed and have some minor (but chronic) health problems. GOD BLESS HIM For that alone!!!!

I live in Oklahoma. This senator is an idiot.

Yes, indeed. They are unleashing something that they can't control- irrational, violent, angry behavior by people who are incapable of responding to facts and are terrified because the president is a black man. They can't even conceive that his is probably the smartest man in the White House in a generation, or more, and has the capacity to become a great president. The attacks are embarrassing for their stupidity, but are also really, really dangerous.

Are you really that stupid or that hateful? Which one or both? Keep bringing this up. This birth certificate thing is the best thing for liberals to stay in power for decades.

This isn't to be argumentative, I'm curious. Why are you so convinced our President was not born in the US? You say there hasn't been “even one single shred of proof” even though the state of Hawaii has verified the authenticity of the document provided by Obama. What WOULD convince you? What evidence do you wait for?

Thank you. Tell that to redstate.

Inholf is a world class curmudgeon and fool. No one excels more in the sheer audacity of his misguided views on global warming and birther lunacy, to name a few. To quote Shakespeare, “Let the doors be shut upon him, that he may play the fool only in his own house”.

hahahahahaha

I cannot wait to go to a bunch of stupid redneck anti intellectual sites that bash the President. Why don't you find a hobby or something. Better yet, why don't you write the RNC and ask them why they did not find out that the liberals had gotten over on the stupid republicans. Don't go around asking Obama to verify your stupidity. Ask your republican representatives how come they let it happen? Why did your own party fail you? Why do you continually support the party that let an illegal alien become president? What a moron. Got to go Keith is on!!!!!!!

Do you realize what discussion like this do America? It's irrelevant, someone said word “liying” yesterday. This makes all of us look bad! I got my citizenship a year ago and I'm proud to stand behind our legally elected President. He has done more good for USA in few months than many others in lifetime.

tiredgirlie,

They have a serious problem with reality. I'm not being flippant here. In the face of the certificate itself, on countless forms of media, they STILL refuse to accept that Pres. Obama is a natural born American citizen. It goes deeper than that, as well. RACISM.

The birth certificate thing is a smoke screen to cover the fact that they are too cowardly to come out and say what everyone else knows. It's really the worst kept secret in America right now. You won't get a cogent answer from any Repub, neocon, righty-wacko or “Orwellers” (hint: they think they're keeping it secret, too).

Hmmm – Seems the Obama family has a history of being questioned if they are U.S. Citizens. BUT, I am “SURE” he is as Legal as his Aunt who is still living in the States. Funny he said he didn't know she was illegal and spent very little time with her – YET, every year he visited her and took his kids so she could see her Nieces. Pictures of them with year on several occasions show they were quite close. Well, that is all the way up until it leaked out during the Election….LMAO! You are who you Run with!

monkey,

Thanks. This really is disturbing. When people CHOOSE ignorance, fear and anger over facts good things do not generally follow…

If the dead could sue for defamation you would be in big trouble for appropriating the name of someone who could actually think.

He has.

http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/has_obama…

Dear Friends,

This is an issue that Mr Obana has caused, he loves this issue, and most likely is an US Citizen, but it afraid to show his birth certificate for another reason.

Most likely the names on it may not match the name of his father, or something else. This hurt him in the primary with Hilary, but not much in the general election, as the economy was the issue that caused people to vote.

But be assured of this, he is a Chicago born and breed, he is not doing anything that could hurt himself. The rest of should ask ourselves what has he done for me.

The article you provided reads a lot like the 9/11 truther and moon landing hoax conspiracy nutter pages I've seen out there. Given enough time, paranoia, and determination, I'll make you a bet I can prove that YOU weren't born in the USA. What I want to know is – in the face of overwhelming facts against your case (you know, an actual Hawaiian birth certificate legally deemed official and accurate) – why do you continue to persist in your fantasy? I'll bet that reason is an emotional one, and that you would have a very hard time verbalizing it – other than the fact that you just plain and simple hate Barack Obama. Just admit that to your self, and others – honesty is the basis of rational conversation, and we'll all respect you a lot more because of it.

This talk about Obama's birth certificate is idiocy. If his birth certificate is not authentic, his enemies (think John McCain and earlier, Hillary) would have unearthed that long ago. Who believes this has not been thoroughly checked and re-checked? Get real.

Dear monkey99,

You need to provide idenfication for a passport, you need to do it for a driver license, and you need to do it to get into the military.

So to ask somebody that wants to be president to do it, make a lot of sense, Mr McCain had to have a hearing to see if you could run.

The reason question is why has Mr Obama failed to put this to rest, most likely his BC has something on it he does not want out, and he normally wins on this story.

He can always pull it out in 2012 if he needs it, so why do it when you have already won. If I was a Republican I would focus more on the fact that everybody on the right and left agress he lied about the cost of heath care, and say. Him he is either a lier or is stupid, and it took the public about 6 years to say that about Mr Bush

Please give us some rational, logical reasons as to why you hate Obama and his policies so much. It would help in having a civil conversation with you. Otherwise you just sound like a raving lunatic. All I hear is hate from the Right, and yet I long to have a civil discussion where we can all intelligently discuss the merits of progressive vs. conservative ideas. Unfortunately, I am coming to realize that the Right has no useful ideas anymore. It's kind of like when you're arguing with your friends in school, and they've run out of intelligent comebacks and start calling you a 'doody-head' – it didn't speak of your opponent then, and it looks even more silly now, because ostensibly, you are an adult. It sure would be nice if you acted like it.

He has done more to destroy the Constitution and our way of life than anybody since FDR. Our children and grandchildren will live in a third world country and there's nothing I can do about it. You will live to rue those words, Jo.

Your reply is noted but a judge in California disagrees with you. I hope the man a.) has a large enough pair to see it through and b.) survives to make a final judgement.

BTW, the birth certificate is irrelevant. Barry's father was a Kenyan national and a British subject. Barry was born with dual citizenship and foreign fealty – he's not eligible, he's a usurper and he's a traitor.

Assuming that you are completely right and documents materialize that prove he was born outside the US (GIANT LEAP); what's your point? His mother was an American. Any child that she had would automatically be American. He could have been born on Mars and he would still be American. Worst case scenario (ABSOLUTE WORST), Obama would have had dual citizenship with some other country and would have had to decide when he turned 18 to stay a US citizen. Had he revoked his citizenship, that paperwork would exist with the State Department. No such paperwork exists. But please, go find it.

Oh, wait, maybe he's adopted… It doesn't matter. Adopted children have the same rights as natural born children. It's how Brad and Angelina can adopt children from outside the country. Besides, he was adopted by his stepfather, not his mother.

And I saw your post below. Please, if you are going to post “proof”, it's best to post it from reputable sites. Like so:

http://www.uscis.gov/propub/ProPubVAP.jsp?docke…

Sec. 301. [8 U.S.C. 1401] The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth:

(g) a person born outside the geographical limits of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is an alien, and the other a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, was physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less than five years, at least two of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years: Provided, That any periods of honorable service in the Armed Forces of the United States, or periods of employment with the United States Government or with an international organization as that term is defined in section 1 of the International Organizations Immunities Act (59 Stat. 669; 22 U.S.C. 288) by such citizen parent, or any periods during which such citizen parent is physically present abroad as the dependent unmarried son or daughter and a member of the household of a person (A) honorably serving with the Armed Forces of the United States, or (B) employed by the United States Government or an international organization as defined in section 1 of the International Organizations Immunities Act, may be included in order to satisfy the physical-presence requirement of this paragraph. This proviso shall be applicable to persons born on or after December 24, 1952, to the same extent as if it had become effective in its present form on that date

Senator Inhofe, I have believed that there were still Republicans that had a brain and were not hate filled and fear mongers. I see that yet another one of you have flipped your lid. God forgive for I am sure that there are true Americans out there that will not!

And you have what proof of any of this BS?

And you are an idiot.

If you don’t know that, you aren’t smart enough to discuss this with me. Do some research. Come back when you’re done.

It would be interesting to know what 'facts' you're referring to. Are you aware that Nancy Pelosi signed TWO certificates after the DNC convention certifying Obama's candidacy, that one of them did NOT verify his Constitutional eligibility and that it was that certificate which was submitted to the 50 Secretaries of State? The one WITH the certification was filed with the FEC. Why two? Why leave out the certification? Because they KNEW he was ineligible!
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/14583

Please don't show your stupidity. Plenty of evidence has been provided…in fact all except for the document that is considered “private personal information” by law. A Certificate of Live Birth, statements by the Hawaiian Secretary of State and the Chief of Medical Records that they had seen the original document, the birth announcements in the Honolulu Papers, the fact that Obama obtained a US Passport as a child (which required submitting a copy of his Hawaiian BC- not the COLB) which states his city of birth as Honolulu. The evidence goes on-and-on and on.

The Birthers have nothing…faked BC's, crazy scenarios of Anne Dunham running halfway round the world while in late pregnancy do she could have her baby in a malarial-wracked hospital in a Third World country. I guess the beaches in Mombasa were better than Honolulu? Then she flew all the way back, smuggling baby Barack through numerous foreign immigration points, to finally reach the US. Hiding her son in a Calabash she then had someone forge a BC (which supposedly doesn't exist, remember) in order than he would later be able to get a COLB (before they existed)?

She needed to do this because, even though Barack Jr. qualified for all aspects of US citizenship by dint of her citizenship…he wouldn't be “native born” so couldn't be President (ignoring for the moment that the Constitution actually doesn't say “native born” but allows descent by blood to constitute a natural born citizen). Yes! Anne Dunham KNEW her half-breed, mulatto son would, despite the segregation still in the South, the “literacy tests”, the fact that no black, anywhere, had held a public office above dog-catcher since radical reconstruction…that he would some day run and win the Presidency.

Now that's some optimistic Mom!

Obama HAS released his birth certificate. Hawaii doesn't use the term “birth certificate” but uses some other term but it's the same thing. Go to salon.com for a complete and thorough debunking of this myth. Moreover the birth announcement in the papers at the time came directly from the state of Hawaii as did all birth announcements. There would have had to been a vast conspiracy at the time of Obama's birth which doesn't seem plausible.

Anyone who still believes this nonsense is whacko.

So– by your logic Obama had to show ID to get a license. He has one. Obama got student loans so he had to sign up for Selective Service. He did. Obama got a passport so he had to have ID–a birth certificate and SS# . So–what are you saying? The passport office, the BMV and Selective Service are all in some criminal conspiracy to make a poor black kid from Hawaii the president. Plus the Bush administration, the FBI, CIA & Homeland Security. Listen to
yourself.

When you finally understand that no matter how many pieces of ID the president (and he is)
were to show you—you would say that it is fake. You have to. Your world would fall apart and you'd have to face the reality that Barack Hussein Obama is our President. That would probably crush you–and you know this. Really you do.

Also, please spellcheck before you insinuate anyone is a liar, or agrees or disagrees with anything you babble. I hate to be unkind, but when you are pontificating nonsense, better
to spell it correctly.

Nothing you posted has anything to do with “natural-born” citizenship. Wise up.

It's so ironic that you could be saying that about G. W. Bush and it would actually be ABSOLUTELY TRUE. In Obama's case it's not even CLOSE to being true. But, that's exactly how I felt for 8 long, tortured years of Bush, so welcome to my hell – hope you enjoy the stay!

The original poster on this chain asked for one shred of proof. A legal birth certificate, and it has been confirmed legal by the state issuing it, is a shred of proof. Now, is in contestable? Well sure, anything can be contested. But to say that Obama has not offered a shred of proof is inaccurate; he has. One that has been accepted by the U.S. Department of State that accepted his intention to run package, and one provided satisfactory enough so that two serious challengers against him, Clinton and McCain, never challenged it themselves. Unless you are saying that Rice (sec. of state of at the time) and McCain are also part of this conspiracy to elect a Kenyan President?

You forgot the tea baggers…but one and same in general.

He has provided evidence. Go to salon.com for a complete debunking of this myth. Unless you are afraid that democratic cooties will rub off on you…

Opinion noted {snicker}

The “What has he done for me” attitude is ruining this country. He doesn’t have any money. He can only steal it from the hard working decent people that it belongs to. Stop being a bum.

prsmith – I'm gonna ask you the same question I posed earlier which no one doubting Obama's American natural-born citizenship seems willing to address: What evidence could be produced which would satisfy your doubts? What evidence do you crave? What would be enough?

Clearly, if we had that we wouldn't be having this discussion {duh}.

As to the facts (sorry, I can't put that in quotes), the State of Hawaii has certified the authenticity of the Certificate of Live Birth. That's a couple of facts right there.

Even more sinister, why did those 50 Secretaries of State (about half of them Republican and many CONSERVATIVE Republicans) not challenge the Certificates? Why did the FEC, under George Bush, the Federal Body that was responsible in the process not investigate this?

Or maybe, just maybe, the standards that are required by the Feds are different than the State Secretaries? Did the RNC similarly file different forms for McCain? Have parties done so in the past?

And if Pelosi “knew” he was ineligible why would she submit the false statement to the Federal body? Your logic seems back-assward here.

not true he released a “certification.” he should release the “certificate.” the two are very different.

I don't the remember Bush showing a shred of evidence that he was from the US. I always suspected that idiot was in outer space. What about Cheney? How come he hasn't proven he was a US citizen? What evidence was ever shown his legitimacy as VP? Your real problem appears to be that you will hold on to anything so you can claim he's not your President. It's either because you are a die hard Repug, a racist, or more likely both.

Maybe in your mind, Captain Steve, but not in the state of Hawaii.

“Moreover the birth announcement in the papers at the time came directly from the state of Hawaii as did all birth announcements. There would have had to been a vast conspiracy at the time of Obama's birth which doesn't seem plausible.”

That canard gets really old. Mom (or grandma) gave a false report to the Hawaiian authorities who, under then current law, accepted the data since no hospital or doctor was involved. That data was released to the media resulting in the two announcements. There was no conspiracy.

You know so little about the laws of the US that you don't deserve to be a citizen. All that a person needs to be born a US citizen is to have ONE US citizen parent. And a person can even be born outside the US and still be born a US citizen if at least ONE parent is a US citizen. That's the way it's been for a long time.

So now he's born in CHICAGO????? Then he is for SURE a citizen. Can you people EVER get your stories straight? And you wonder why no one takes you seriously. Sheesh.

Not true an several levels. Shows how ignorant are the Obamaites.

1) Hawaii said they have the document. That's all. They didn't certify anything.

2) Obama released a “certification” not a “certificate.” He should release the “certificate.” They are two very different things.

Th certificate is what I WANT TO SEE!!!!!

Our world, my friend. Two sides of the same coin and both are destroying our country.

FDR saved our country — the US of A thrived under the FDR policies — without them YOU would probably be in worse shape today if not for FDR

— we are in the mess we are in now because reagan bush the rightwingnuts have been slowly chipping away at the great great policies this man put into our laws over the past thirty years — and yes the clinton's and obama's continue to promote anti-FDR policies

FDR was and continues to be the GREATEST PRESIDENT —- he was elected FOUR TIMES – they changed the law because of this man — his abilities — from a wheel chair no less are astounding to the current day

Here we go again. These people are in such denial that you probably need to be examined for a Personality Disorder under the DSM-IV (Possibly Paranoid, Schizotypal). You guys are wasting your time with this preoccupation with the black President. He's not going anywhere. I know you guys are praying to God that he's going away or at night dreaming about life the way it was before, only to realize you're in the middle of some nightmare. In this country Majority Rules, we voted for the guy that we wanted & we won. Take a step back to figure out what it is that you did wrong. Graciously accept defeat. Until the next time.

Inhofe's comments aren't news. This is the guy that refused to meet with now-justice Sotomayor because he said he would vote against her. He's also said he won't read the Senate health care bill because he's going to vote against it anyway. He thinks global warming is a liberal conspiracy. And he's a “C Streeter” that counseled Senator Ensign of Nevada on how to pay off his mistress and stay in the Senate. He's also defended Senator David Vitter (R-LA), famous for his role in the DC Madam case of prostitutes and Members of Congress. A real class act that reflects Oklahoma which is near the bottom of the US in ACT/SAT scores, literacy and common sense.

And btw, what has he done for me? I'll tell you what he's done for me. He pushed through legislation that included, among other things, a $25 a week payment tacked onto unemployment benefits, as well lengthening the time to file for a first federal extension and adding a second federal extension. I have been unemployed for 2 full years. I was able to work part time for part of that, but there are NO jobs right now. I have never seen it like this, I have never had this much trouble finding a job, and I have been working since I was 15. So what has Obama done for me? Saved me from homelessness, is all, saved me from complete financial ruin, is all, kept my head above water in the worst financial circumstances of my lifetime. So you know what you can do with your ignorant ramblings? You can stick them where the sun don't shine. Obama is in tune with the needs of the people on the bottom, including YOU. Wake up already, get your head out of your *** and figure out where your interests lie. If you have to feel outrage, check out the corporate take-over of our entire political (campaign contributions) and economic (jobs overseas, mil-industrial abuses) life. THAT is something to feel outraged about. But spare us the ignorance of your rants, please.

Citizen – yes. Natural Born – ? Given that 'natural born citizen' has not been defined, my opinion is just as good as yours. In my opinion, the SCOTUS has failed us badly (among others) by not addressing this issue LONG ago during the primaries. BTW, the 14th doesn't apply.

Hopefully the California lawsuit will resolve this one way or the other soon.

P.S. If Barry was born in Kenya (as indicated by the birth certificate entered into evidence in California), mom wasn't old enough to confer citizenship. THAT will be interesting to follow!

OK. My error. The Great State of Hawaii issues Certification of Live Birth. Sorry they don't use your preferred word.

And, at this point, you bore me. Bye.

It's so fun to be from a state in which Tom Coburn is the smart senator.

We're in the middle of a nightmare for sure but it has little to do with either Bush or Obama – they're mere puppets. God help our children and grandchildren.

You're the stupid one.

In 1961 his mother was not old enough to convey citizenship if he was born outside the USA.

And the are many types of citizenship. POTUS must be “a natural born” citizen. Historically that has been two us citizen parents and born on US soil.

you beat me too it. thx

The information was gathered directly from the hospitals.
I dare you to read the full article but I bet you are too full of yellow bile to do it.

Salon's handy-dandy guide to refuting the Birthers
Now you, too, can silence the annoying Birther in your life — and in just eight easy steps!

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2009/08/05/bi…

Where do these paranoid jerks come from? Old white men worried about their loss of power. (For full disclosure, I am an old (64) white man.) They are pathetic and their inciting terrorism and threats against the president should be prosecuted. It is time to end this charade and call them what they are LIARS.

Sen. James Inhofe does not undersatnad that even Pres. Bushes or Sen. McCain, or himself would not produce Birth Certificate and post it online. Where was Sen.McCain born again? I heard he was born on the ship, not on land, and therefore he may not qualify to be President of the United States. Sen. Inhofe would you post your birth certificate online? American people want to know if you were, infact, born in United States.
Pres. Obama gratuated with JD from Harvard Law School. What school did you gratuated from? What school did your followers gratuated from? I guess most of them may not admit to a Cal State system, not to talk about Harvard or Yale.
If you want to criticize Pres. Obama, you need to at least attend Harvard or Yale. He's from Harvard and he's a Pres. of teh United States and you're not. So sit down and be quite and go to school.

This covers it all.

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2009/08/05/bi…

Salon's handy-dandy guide to refuting the Birthers
Now you, too, can silence the annoying Birther in your life — and in just eight easy steps!

Dear Friend,

I am sorry you have not worked for two years, but ask yourself this question, why have you not worked? Is the economy better now than it was a year ago, and will it be better a year from now then it is today.

I do not know how old you are, but I remember Jimmy Carter, and I remember that bad economy, it was worst back then than today. Mr Obama and Mr Bush plan to increase the deficit is going to hurt us all. Soon the government is going to not be able to borrow money, and all the federal programs such as unemployment is going to be reduced a lot.

We need jobs, not green jobs, we need dirty dusty jobs building cars, planes, and ships, like we used to. What have I said that is incorrect? I am not outrage, and did not like Mr Bush at all.

I just understand the score and I understand what will happen to lot of people like you, you are going to suffer greatly, and people like no longer have the means to help you out.

I wish I could, but my home and my savings are worth lot less, my business is not making any money, and there is really no way to increase my taxes and my electric bills and expect me to stay open. I will lay off people, and they will suffer, I do not like this but it is a fact of life.

Cool. . .Here's captain Steve's handy dandy guide.

There are more logical questions than answers.

What hospital was he born in? Who were the witnesses? Who was the doctor? Those answers are only on the long-form (the one that is sealed, even though some say nothing is sealed). Some say it doesn’t exist. But if it doesn’t exist then what did the people see that makes them sure of his birthplace?

Three different COLBs (Certification of Live Birth (short-form)) have been posted online by Factcheck etc. The first 2 had issues and were replaced. The current one has issues too (too detailed for here).

Some sites have said they “examined” the document. Which one, since they are all different? Why are they all modified? Why not release it/them to some independent skeptics? Why not release the long-form?

Three different hospitals have some claim to his birth-place, two in Hawaii, One in Kenya.

Why spend millions of dollars in attorney fees to prevent all documents from being seen?

On top of that, exists the issue of his Kenyan/British father. The constitutional concept of natural-born citizenship was to prevent dual allegiances. Why was that never addressed? They did for McCain (whom I did not support either).

To me there are more serious questions than serious answers. . .so I continue the search. You can to by going to these links.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/11/why_the_…

http://countryfirst.bravehost.com/phpBB3/viewto…

http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/04/aka-o…

http://69.66.218.3/public/patriotsHeartVsObama/…

http://www.friktech.com/2009/born.pdf

And today, new question, why did Nancy Pelosi sign two different campaign documents, one without the usual constitutional eligibility statement?

Check this out. It’s the DNC’s nomination documents (yes plural) for Obama to run for president. Only one is normally filed. In Obama’s case, two were filed. The difference between the two (both signed by Pelosi) is that one omits the standard verbiage swearing constitutional eligibility of the candidate.

“and that the following candidates for President and Vice President of the United States are legally qualified to serve under the provisions of the United States Constitution.”

Very odd.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_c3WtQv44wGc/Sp4O5_BKf…

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_c3WtQv44wGc/Sp4Rx6CcR…

.

Dear Sir,

Sorry if you did not understand my satire, lol, it was about him as a politician, not as a person.

I do find it funny that you throught I meant the was born in Chicago, I really do not care where he is born. Why do I really care?

Dear Pug,

Do I proof of what? That there is something he does not want to share? Yes, I have proof he has not shared it, if he wanted to share it he would have.

That seems silly, I am not saying he is not a citizen, and I really do not care if he is or is not, does not really matter.

The point is he is the one that keeps this going and can end it any time he wants to, and has chosen to not end it.

This is a fact, he could release his original BC at any time, the state says they need his approval and he has not given it.

Just like his grades from College, he can release them or not, either way I really do not care, what I do care about is the fact that both the left and right agrees he lied about it not costing us any money for the 'plan” but I should believe him on other issue.

If you lie about one thing then why should I believe you on other things? That is reasonable, is it not?

Well, duh, you do not really understand that Obama's policies will help people in your circumstances even as you continue to ignorantly deride him for something that is not even an issue in the real world.

And btw, f.u. – the job market is MUCH worse now than it was even after 9-11.

The Pod people from outer space have come and taken possession of our brains. How else could we explain the NUTS still debating President Obama's citizenship. Could it be his black skin that is confusing you? Yes, we do have citizens of different colors, we do have citizens who were born in Hawaii and hopefully we have citizens somewhere in our country who want to focus on our problems and not on the preposterous nonsense spewed by the right wing talking heads who use you to line their pockets. Snap out of it!

Dear Leota,

Sorry to offend you with my prose. I really do not care if he is one of not, but we should have a requirement to provide documents to run for an office if a law requires it.

He is not a poor black kid from Hawaii, he went to one of the best private schools and he is not even a black american, he is half white american and half african american. He has not share experience with the black people of this country.

I am part Native American, I have a share experience of what it is all about, how my mother could was treated, and how my parent had to drive to another state for my mother to have so my BC would not say Indian.

I am glad you hate to be unkind, and sorry I force you to be unkind to me, but guess what, both parties are owned by the donors, and both parties do what is best for the donors.

The left and right are both fools to follow parties that have created a system that taxes unearned income at 15 percent but all earned income at least 16.8 percent. SSA and Medicare taxes are a regressive tax, and the new 8 percent tax on labor just raised the taxes on working people to 24.8 percent, while uneared income stated at 15.

Thing about who you support, and what they are doing, and who they are doing it to.

I was under the impression that Orly Taitz files lawsuits on a daily basis, with a different forged birth certificate from a different country each time. No? Look, Dems thought the 2000 race was stolen, they thought Bush deserted and should have been put in prison, etc., etc. Each side has their own thoughts. Bottom line for the Dems was 8 years of Bush. Bottom line for republicans, Obama's here for at least 4. Now can we focus on the issues? Please?

The only oddity is between your ears.

Dear Sir,

I am talking Jimmy Carter, and sorry but the job market is going to get much worse before it gets better.

CA government is going to cut lots of jobs, and soon the federal government will follow suit. See the government gets money from private industry, and when private industry get smaller they have less money.

Less money, means less money out, it is just a fact. So very, very soon, you are going to suffer much more, as inflation is going thru the roof.

Who gets hurts the most when inflation goes up, people without assets, as real wages fall, like what is happening now.

Did you actually read the article? Your questions would be answered. By the way my birth certificate doesn't say which hospital I was born in, just the town and state. It's NOT standard to put down the name of the hospital.

So Captain Steve just READ THE ARTICLE!

I bet the whole two document thing is bogus too. You just keep making things up.

Dear PieWee,

Did not Mr Obama monger fear in his speach, something about the deficit will go up if we do nothing and people will die?

Guess what the deficit is going up no matter what, and every single person born will die. He did not need to say this, as number the deficit is based on money in and money out. You expand the ecomony and the deficit goes down, you reduce the economy the deficit goes up

So nothing we do with health care in any of the present bills is going to reduce the deficit. The key to reduce the deficit is to expand business, and you do this by reducing the cost of running a business, and changing capital gains laws to increase taxes on capital gains.

Thing about our tax law for a second, I run a business and make a profit, I pay about 40 percent in taxes. I run a business and I sell it to somebody in china, I only pay 15 percent in taxes to sell the business. In china you pay no business taxes, so now the business that made say $1 in the United States makes $1.6 in profit in china, assuming my costs stay the same.

This is why all the business has gone overseas, our tax laws should not tax a business that reinvest the profits into the business, but should tax the crap out of somebody that tries to sell the business.

could it be that repugs are traitors, party first, county second

i can't wait for the treason trails to begin

Dear Fm21,

Different states have different rules and the question is not really was he born here, as most likely he was.

The older BC had a lot more information than they have today, my parents traveled about 40 miles to have me born in another state, so my BC would say Indian, as my mother was 1/4 native american.

The question is what is on his original BC that causes him to not want anybody to see it, and BTW your original BC is normally not even a legal document, as you are required to have one with state or county seal on it.

My original one is useless to me, I had to get another for a passport.

Captainsteve to inmate steve

I agree. Here's the full list of things hidden.

• Original, vault copy birth certificate — Not released — over $1,000,000 spent to conceal — birth certificate — $15.
• Certification of Live Birth — Released – probable counterfeit
• Admitted British/Kenyan citizenship at birth — Admitted
• Hospital of birth — Three hospitals have some claim — 2 in Hawaii 1 in Kenya
• Obama/Dunham marriage license — Not released
• Obama/Dunham divorce — Not released by Obama — released by independent investigators
• Kindergarten records – “lost”
• Soetoro/Dunham marriage license — Not released
• Soetoro adoption records — Not released
• Fransiskus Assisi School School application — not released by Obama — released by independent investigators
• Punahou School records — Not released
• Soetoro/Dunham divorce – concealed by Obama — released by independent investigators
• Selective Service Registration — Released – and proven counterfeit
• Occidental College records — Not released
• Passport — Not released — investigation witness shot dead
• Columbia College records — Not released
• Columbia thesis — “Soviet Nuclear Disarmament” – Not released
• Harvard College records — Not released
• Harvard Law Review articles — None
• Illinois Bar Records — Not released.
• Medical records — Not released
• Illinois State Senate records — None
• Illinois State Senate schedule — “Lost”
• Law practice client list — Not released
• University of Chicago scholarly articles — None

OMG! You poor thing. Barack Obama is an African American because his mother is American and his father was African. A true African- American. An American. Who do you think you are trying to say your existence in this country is truer than his? I am an African American woman. Sorry that your heritage was taken from you–but through this craziness you are trying to take someone else's identity. I went to an expensive private school and my parents worked in factories.
It's called SCHOLARSHIPS!!!! That's what Obama got. I pay 33% tax because I make the money to do so. I pay because it's warranted. I don't whine about it and hate the world. If you are such a libertarian give up the post office, public schools, medicare, don't drive on the roads or go to the library. I know who I support. You need to recognize who you are.

You lie!!!!!!!!!!

You're right. We are now the world's largest debtor nation. Unfunded liabilities at about $100 TRILLION. That's about $300,000 per person. How can we ever get out of that debt. We can't. Both parties are selling us down the drain.

Dear Carbman,

I am in the middle, I am an independent, I support no party, as both parties are bought and paid for by the donors. I am forced in every election to vote for people I do not really want to run my country, and normally do not really like.

These people care nothing about any of us, they care about the party, and how the party can get more money from the donors. What the parties do is get all the people on the left and all the people on the right to fight over issues that the donors are okay with.

See, like our tax code, unearned income is taxed at 15 percent, while just the SSA/Medicare tax on earned income up to 105K is almost 17 percent. With this new plan we are either going to charge everybody 3.8 in additional taxes, or the employers an 8 percent tax on labor.

So if I make say 1M a year, how much more take to I have to pay, I do not work so I do not need to pay the 8 percent on labor, that is good for me, and the only one is only 3.8 in additional taxes

Either what it is not much. How about if I make say 38,000. Then I pay an addtional 8 percent in taxes, about 3k more, or I pay 3.8K in addtional taxes for an rate of almost 28 percent.

And this is assuming I pay no income tax at all, I am paying more than the alternate min tax right off the bat.

The power to tax is the power to destroy, and both parties have destroyed our economy, and our jobs, while becoming very, very wealth. Look at Mr Gore he is worth over 100M, wonder why he got so much money, must be a very good speaker for that.

The repugs are in on it too. fyi I'm neither. It's about the power brokers. Goldman Sachs, Soros etc Peeps better wake up.

Dear John,

Mr Bush went to Yale, so that does it he had to be smart, and he had to be correct, yes. Guess what I went to Columbia, but I did not major in political science, I majored in Physics. Got a master in it, I new people that majored in political science, they were fun at a party and basicly useless every place else.

[...] See the full article from “The Washington Independent” [...]

Not much of a rise, Very well thought out response Markinrsm.Just trying to make the point that our problems in this great country, are not going to be addressed, if people like Captainsteve, continue to muddy the waters with what they must know is bullcrap. He's black he's an american, and he's the President. If you don't agree with him, come up with somwthing better. Acting out your delusions is not helping

I am not sure who commented on the Carter years, but I beg to differ, while yes the economy was bad, it was not as ours is now. Bush almost single handedly destroyed us and he did it without a care. What kind a man sits on his hands with the look of an idiot while being told that the Wrold Trade Towers were blown up? Obama cannot correct 8 years of poor stewardship in 7 mo, or 1 year, I even doubt he will be able to do it in 4. He is doing just exactly what he said he would do. I listened and read every speech he gave. He gave no hollow promises, he did not say no new taxes, he did not say the war in Iraq would end overnight. It cannot be fixed overnight and it cannot especially be fixed with a house and senate full of nitwit republicans only goal is to see him fail. What pray tell me what good would that do the country. I am so tired of people like you who rather than work in the system and try to make it better, sit in town hall meetings and shout nonsense about birth certificates and I don't want the government messing with my Medicare>>>> about fell over when I heard that one. Hey idiots, Medicate is run by the government. Morons, you are all morons. Just do us all a favor and move, China, the South Pole, just go!

Again with the taunts. So you know the answer? How do you know what a “natural-born” citizen is, if this doesn’t satisfy you? The courts have been, as usual, both ambiguous and clear. But you seem to know some difference that EVERYONE IN THE HISTORY OF THE US didn’t/doesn’t know. So why not share? Come on, oh wise one. Enlighten me.

You want him to read?

Oh please you are not old, if you are I have to be and I am not so neither are you:) Oh, I'm 62

I guess I can only respond in kind, with the likes of you: “I’m rubber and you’re glue…”.
Oh, and I didn’t ask for it. Didn’t need to. Those liberal pinky-commo socialists did what is morally correct for the government to do: they realized people needed help, and they responded. Personally, I hope my few dollars came directly out of your pocket.

I hope “God” doesn't help our children or grandchildren, personally.

You make some good points Sara, most of them are morons. But some are just scared of the future.

captain, you aint ever gonna get what you want and even if he did, you'd never be satisfied. The sooner you take your head out of your butt and grow up the better chance you'll have at living a normal life.

Texas! The could all move to Texas!

Bravo, Leota2, bravo!

Ummm Naaaa Texas isn't all that bad.

Not in Hawaii or in California. All you birthers seem to think because your state does things differently Hawaii must be doing things wrong. I requested a certified copy of my BC from LA county. I got a certificate of live birth. That is what it is called. I called them to make sure it was what I needed to get a new passport. They told me that they do not issue Birth Certificates and never have. I looked at my original, the one signed by the doctor. It also says certificate of live birth. My husband who was born in 1944 his also says certificate of live birth. The idiots who say a certificate of live birth is less valid are as dumb as Inhofe.
If the state of Hawaii says he was born there do you really expect us to believe someone who hasn't even met the man and is just so horrified that a man who is partially black is president.

Perhaps, but being scared of the future is so foolish. Fear usually causes mistrust and hate. We all have seen that in the last few months. For me I trust in God. In my 62 years I have seen a president assassinated, a presidential candidate assassinated, 5 wars, and many many other horrible things. I never thought in my lifetime to see a black person elected to the office of President, it was the proudest day of my life. I am a white woman who was raised to believe that all men and women were created equal. Our home was colorblind and I raised my children such and my grandchildren are being raised that way also. I guess if I had any advice to give anyone it would be this. “In God We Trust”

These folks are idiots. Let's get down to governing for America instead of wasting tet more time.

This is not about the birth certificate, Annitte. It's about the fact that Barry's father was a Kenyan national/British subject. Barry was born with dual citizenship and British fealty and that disqualifies him per Article II, Section 1 of the Constitution.

Some American you are. The dollar trumps patriotism. I also run a business and it would save me a bundle. I currently pay 174 employees. The average amount I pay my employees is about $44,000 and I pay about $16,800 per employee for health insurance for employee and family. I would save money. My taxes might go up but not nearly as much as I currently pay for health insurance for my employees. I bet it would only cost you money if you don't pay for health insurance for your employees.

I'm with you. But my point simply is that these guys are just jerks. Simply put they can't believe that a man of color could be president. And I agree, you are not OLD, at least not yet. LOL

Birthers are obviously people who suffer from a serious cognitive/personality disfunction. They are no different than a little 6 year old who cannot and will not stop screaming in the toy store when they don't get what they want. There is no getting through to these people with facts or evidence or whatever – heck, they won't even look at it – because they have ZERO capability to think rationally or to LET IT GO. They've been conditioned by the likes of WorldNutDaily, FAUX, and the Becks and Limbaughs to be the pavlovian attack dogs of the Right because it seems they want it and crave it and prefer it to a reality where they have to think and act for themselves. These people are a lost cause. Sad but true.

As an Oklahoman I am deeply embarrassed every time any Senator & Representative from my state including Inhofe open their mouth to speak. They do not represent the whole of the people in my state. But sadly they do have a large majority in my state duped into believing anything they say. I hope one day soon the people of my great state will wake up, realize who these so called representatives of the people are fighting for in Washington (not them), and finally elect people who give a damn about us, our state, and our country.

I read it — again. There are more holes in that puff piece than a brick of swiss cheese. It's pure conjecture, assumption – crap.

Now that we've dispensed with Salon's half-assed attempt at playing lawyer, what would you like to discuss?

Let's start with this. If you're correct, any bastard of any two-bit dictator (Idi Amin, Mao Tse Tung, Leon Trotsky – take your pick) who happens to be born on American soil can become our President. Is that what you believe?

Ya know, in some places and cultures, legitimacy is tracked through the MOTHER. Oh, horrors! So maybe it doesn't matter what his father was. His mother was A-1 United States citizen, and, as a Kansan, about as American as one can get. But thank you for playing.

“IN GOD WE TRUST' Words that have been twisted to mean hate and intolerance. But i see that you still understand them to be about love and tolerance.I am 57 years old and i have seen the same horrible things And their may be many more unless, we can stop the neo-cons, the people who preach hate in Gods name, the racists, and the people who use them for there own political and monetary gain

I grew up in a country that once was run by communist dictators and dirt poor ideological fanatics. After thirty years or so, I kept getting reminded how much the concerned “freedom lovers”, “individualist” right-wing republicans act and behave so similar to a communist cadre. In today’s America, there is no other reminiscent reminder of dictators and fanatic cadres than the republicans. If you don’t agree with them, they are the first one to label you. Similar to the old communists and their political cadres, republicans are good in framing and labeling opposition. Remember the term “Patriotic” the last eight years, and respect to the “office”? Whatever happened to that? Can you imagine how the republicans could have responded if someone heckled G. W. Bush in a similar manner during one of his incoherent “terrorism” speech? I am optimistic about our great country and its people. I am not losing sleep over someone taking over our nation or our freedom in one form or another. Not yet anyways. Because I trust that our military is doing their job. God is watching us. And we have alert citizens who keep politicians on check. The closest I came to worry about my personal freedom was when administration officials were talking about “the patriot act”, and firing legal professionals due to their political affiliations, etc. I never thought that the Republican Party will go so low to lose its civility and basic decency. They are so overwhelmed with hate and anger they are incapable of presenting their thoughts and ideas to the public in a coherent way and without calling names. They are acting like thugs, street gangs, or like a spoiled brat who throws tantrum when one didn’t get what he/she wants. I see or hear no valuable ideas coming from them. Saying “No” is not a public policy, or an ideology. It appears that Republican leaders prefer to see our nation and its people go down into the gutter rather than succeed with this president. How did they end up harboring so much hate and anger? Where were they when Bush and Cheney were riding us all for free in the name of Freedom and expanding democracy, or stumping on our freedom, on the basic constitutional rights and putting the country in such an economic calamity? What have they done or say the last eight plus years to improve the health care crisis in America? Please, don’t say it is not a crisis. I take it personal, because I am a self employed American, trying to leave the American dream. There is nothing that scares me more, than dealing with my health insurance company who keep raising my premium twice a year for no reason. Why are the so called conservative republicans all of sudden worry about our freedom and telling others to slow down about health care reform?

What a douchebag

Possibly but this isn't one of them. In this culture, it takes two to tango and both are required to be citizens – and foreign influence is a no-no. But thanks for playing.

Yes you are ron

Your atrocious grammar and spelling call everything you have written into question. Few Columbia grads miss the difference between “new” and “knew.”

I'll go slowly here. It really doesn't matter if you have a parent born on Mars, if you are born to AN American or IN America—you are American. Stanley Ann Dunham was an American citizen and Obama was born in the U.S. End of story.
You really need to re-read the Constitution.
Oh, and you aren't “born with …fealty” Fealty is sworn. What an asswipe. Why don't you just call the President and nigger in public like you most assuredly do in private.
There is no way that Obama's mother would/could have gone to Kenya during those years. Check a history source to understand why.
Our Congressman Abercrombie knew both parents.
Our Republican governor says Obama was born here.
Newspaper notices came from info given to them by the hospitals only.
One more thing, if you can read this much. Queen Kapi`olani started a hospital system. Get it? Queen's…..Kapi`olani?

As an Alaskan, I feel your pain.

Be thankful for South Carolina, then.

Sure, if one of them is democratically elected. That's the law, sir. Respect it.

Thank you for your perspective. You are correct. They yell the names they most resemble. Weird, isn't it? That the left is ideological fanatic, while the right put in place the Patriot Act.

Hey, I have a question. On what is this statement based:
“Why spend millions of dollars in attorney fees to prevent all documents from being seen?”
Can you back this statement up with anything other than “that's what they say”?

How? How are these two “different”? Give us your facts, sir.

Too bad you didn't learn anything from you experience. Freedom and liberty are everything.

Dictators prefer big powerful government. . .conservatives prefer small “weak” government.

It's NEVER wrong to want the truth.

Obama's birth certificate has been posted on the internet for nearly a year now. Futher evidence has surfaced in the form of birth announcements in two different newspapers in Hawaii. There is no case. No court in the land would take this up. Not in a hundred years. Nobody thinks John McCain is not a natural born US citizen even though he was born in Panama. Inhofe is simply nuts.

So by “small” you mean we should not have gotten into the “big” mess in Iraq? By small you mean that the so called “patriot act” was the action of a “weak” government? By small you mean that everyone not making six figures is only entitled to a “small” about of heath care. How bout taxes, let's keep those “small” for the rich while taking more form the poor. Sounds like wealth redistribution to me. Rob form the poor to keep the money flowing to the rich. You know America almost had a 2d revolution before the Constitution was singed, it would have put the creditors Vs debtors. Sometimes I wish that war had been fought, for Freedom is not just something limited by government, but by business and excess greed. Capitalism does work, but like communism, not in it's purest state. We need rules to make sure that no one is gaming the system on the low or the high end of things

No we should not have gone to Iraq.

The patriot act had lots of excess. Obama kept virtually all of it.

The federal government should not be involved in health-care, period. That's a state issue.

I believe in freedom. If you're free and you engage in business, it's Capitalism. Think about that.

Agreed we need rules. That's the constitutional obligation of the federal gov.

Regardless of where the Usurper Obama(Soetoro) was born he was born a Brit and was later adopted as an Indonesian.

Thanks for the comment ‘captainsteve’. I can assure you, I have learned some, may be not as much as I should. However, if you are holding onto conservatism and its ideology, (if there is one these days) because of such a simplistic view, I am afraid I won’t buy that. There are many dysfunctional and weak governments out there. Yet they are dictatorial, care very little if any at all about the country and its unbelievably poor people. The fact that a government is weak does not make it the right kind of governance. Similarly, the opposite can be true as well. And by the way, our nation shines as hope of freedom for many others in the outside world partly due to our military, which is the largest infrastructure in our government. I hope there is more substance out there than ‘weak is good’ and ‘strong is bad’ assumption, and cling right wing ideology (again, if there is one) as an alternative because of that; you mentioned “Freedom and liberty….”. Quite frankly I am not sure what that line says. I commend you for using such good catchy words. Unfortunately the phrase in this context carries no weight at all.

yes, douchebag He was born in US = US Citizen. Period. He had right to british citizenship but so what? He's still American. I didn't know birfers think british law trumps US law on US soil… that's a new one.

Yes, school registration form = naturalization document in birther world, right? Also, if you want to renounce US Citizenship, you have to be >18 (an adult), anyway.

America the disgraceful. How much disgust do you believe you can generate before the backlash? How much loss of credibility can American Government and democracy sustain to those who view us from abroad before any hope of leadership is extinguished? You are one of those many Wilsons in that chamber insulting the institution we prize, the leader we chose. You are a disgrace to that institution. America's days seem to get sadder and sadder and I am becoming more and more ashamed of her deteriorating values. It is really time for things to change when political terrorism prevails, and to those who beg to differ, who want me to believe they are not of the same ilk then rise to the occasion!

This guy needs to change his name in Inhole.
Because that's where his head is most of the time.

Stupidity has no bounds. Didn't realize psychiatric facilities allowed their patients to stay up so late.

Because the Republican Party has sold their souls to the highest bidder-that being the Health Care Industry. All that remains of the Republican Party is a bunch of pampered whiners that prefer to being wined and dined as a perk of their job than actually working on the problems in this nation. They represent big industry and corporation's interests and thumb their noses at the common man. They could care less about American citizens and each night they get down on their knees to pray to their only God-the almighty dollar. A bunch of sociopaths who are more than willing to sell us up the river for thirty pieces of silver.
They are the modern equivalent of Judas. May history forever keep a record of their names and their evil doings. Let us never forget what happens when dishonorable and dishonest men achieve positions of power.

Army captain’s lawyer Orly Taitz summons Obama, Gates By ALAN RIQUELMY
Summonses have been issued in the case of an Army captain seeking to stop her deployment by questioning the legitimacy of Barack Obama’s presidency, court records show. The summonses, issued Wednesday, are for defendants in the civil complaint of Capt. Connie Rhodes, who claims the president is “an illegal usurper” and “an unlawful pretender” and that she cannot lawfully act under his authority. Defendants include Obama, U.S. Defense Secretary Robert Gates and Thomas MacDonald, Fort Benning garrison commander. The complaint, filed Friday in the Columbus division of U.S. District Court, is similar to the July 8 suit filed by Maj. Stefan Frederick Cook, who sought conscientious objector status and a temporary injunction. California attorney Orly Taitz, a national figure in the “birther” movement, represents both.
According to the summonses, the defendants have 20 days to answer the complaint once received; they have two months if they are an officer or employee of the federal government.
Rhodes seeks to stop Gates, MacDonald and others from giving her and others orders until Obama’s citizenship status is established, her complaint states. She also seeks conscientious objector status based on her doubts of Obama’s qualifications. A hearing on the complaint hasn’t been scheduled.

America the disgraceful. How much disgust do you believe you can generate before the backlash? How much loss of credibility can American Government and democracy sustain to those who view us from abroad before any hope of leadership is extinguished? You are one of those many Wilsons in that chamber insulting the institution we prize, the leader we chose. You are a disgrace to that institution. America's days seem to get sadder and sadder and I am becoming more and more ashamed of her deteriorating values. It is really time for things to change when political terrorism prevails, and to those who beg to differ, who want me to believe they are not of the same ilk then rise to the occasion!

As an African American, I continue to believe that not one single American should feel hopeless. Unfortunately, millions of us do. You witness it in the faces of the homeless, the poor, bankrupted, unhealthy and foreclosed souls that often go unheard. You witness it in rural and urban America alike. I believe America is a great country, but I must admit that I have been taken aback by the vitriol coming from some of the confused people on the right. I wonder, if a cordial, intelligent leader such as President Obama can spark such unwarranted outrage from these people, then what do they think about average African Americans and other minorities in this country? President Obama continues to reach out to these people and they essentially spit on his hand and slap it away.

When I see footage of a supposed beloved former President Reagan, answering a little black girl's question using the word “Negro” in the 1980s, it hurts to my core. It tells me that the President of the United States, not too long ago, did not care enough to think about people that looked different. He was not tuned in. We didn't matter. And he placed emphasis on dividing us.

I would ask the birthers, deathers and every other scared “white person” out there, why are you so afraid and angry at people you perceive to be different from you? What have we taken away from you? Your heritage? Your loved ones? What? Please let me know why you hate us so much?

Why would you heckle and attempt to diminish a democratically elected President of the United States of America? This is so disrespectful. We should be ashamed.

Maybe after this latest suit is thrown out, as it surely will be, the plaintiff needs to be dishonorably discharged for inciting sedition.

You know something, RedGraham? You are a complete idiot. Your “adoption” theory is just deranged … and legally (and factually) incorrect. Hasn't anyone every told you birthers that it's dangerous to put your heads so far up your asses?

But birthers don't want the truth. Consider how readily they accept (even drool over) obvious forgeries and completely bat-shit crazy theories. They strain to come up with convoluted and often inconsistent conspiracy scenarios while rejecting the perfectly straightfoward account of Obama's birth that's consistent with authenticated documents that have been vouched for by government officials who have no connection with Obama. The birthers have obviously never heard of Occam's razor and neither have you if you think they are engaged in a search for truth. Their behavior does not suggest that they are searching for the truth; it suggests that they are suffering from some form of mental illness or personality disorder.

Give me a break. Your “sources” are the usual ridiculous blogs full of the usual unsubstantiated fabrications that the writers just pull out of their asses. And you find this stuff credible? I feel very sorry for you.

That personality disorder is sometimes called “hate”.

It ain't your pappy's Republican Party, that's for sure. Keep it up, fellas. It's good for the Democrats. You're marginalizing yourselves out of impact and legitimacy.

Wow, summonses were issued in a case! Egads. I expect the next stunning news will be that a clerk's time stamp was affixed to a pleading or that a lawyer signed something. Wow!

This one is going to get tossed like the others, and hopefully Orly will be investigated by the CA State Bar for the crap she's pulling, which includes barratry (look it up, it's a nice old legal no-no) and filing frivolous pleadings.

The question remains that if there is no truth to the claim that Obama is not eligible, why is he still spending all that money to prevent anyone from seeing the real birth certificate?

Thank you, CaptainSteve

The courts have been, as usual, both ambiguous and clear. But you seem to know some difference that EVERYONE IN THE HISTORY OF THE US didn’t/doesn’t know.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Bingo. . .That’s why the courts need to make a determination regarding Dingle Barry!

Unless these idiots are claiming President Obama had a different mother, his birth certificate is irrelevant. His mother was a US citizen, by birth; therefore, his birth (regardless of the father) rendered him a natural born US citizen, And, oh by the way, if his father had been a US citizen and his mother not, he would still be considerd a natural born citizen regardless if the birth occured in New York, Hawaii, Iran, Russia, or any other place on this earth.

Republican…get over it, already!

I live in Oklahoma. Inhofe is a nut case in the extreme. He likes the press he gets from making stupid remarks and really cares less about whether they're true or not. Perhaps he and Joe Wilson should open and ethics clinic, with guest speakers like Sanford.

Elvee? What money, where? I keep here about “millions” to prevent anyone from seeing his birth certificate? Do you really believe that, or perhaps it just makes to feel good think it could happen. Find a bar with good blues, C&W and old rock n' roll and a bar tender willing to listen, you'll be happier and the regulars will have had enough to drink to not realize—YOU ARE A NUT.

Wonderful comment. I agree totally (and I'm white).

You can't handle 'the truth'! That's why the lot of you watch Fox News.

like Germans setting up a concentration camp because a jewish German was elected to be German Chancellor, the irony is that this hate crazy dogs often refer to the tolorant patriotic Americans as Nazi. hatred coated in craziness and stupidity is nuclear

Sara A,

People like you are what make this country great. Thanks for being a true patriot.

How many of the birthers are parents? How many of the birthers who have big mouths, no brains, and microphones are actually parents themselves? Who will confront them and ask them to name, in sequence, and define the documents associated with a live US birth? Rupert Murdock, British citizen, wouldn't be able to, and neither would Rush Limbaugh (divorced three times, no children), Matt Drudge (gay, no children), mAnn Coulter (gay, no children).

I have taken the long form with me to request a Social Security card for my child. I was told by the government staffer at the Social Security Admin worker that the long form is NOT legal proof of identity. It is NOT an acceptable legal document. ONLY the birth certificate is acceptable. So for Lou Dobbs and anyone else to be yelling about the “long form birth certificate” shows that Lou is full of crap.

Transcripts are not public documents. My copy issued to me states clearly on it ISSUED TO STUDENT. There is only one way for a transcript to be released, and I'm not revealing it here, out of respect to university registrars. Again, how many of the big mouth, no brains group are university graduates? Probably none.

Is anyone else getting thoroughly sick of the endless cycle of verbal violence, most often started by people like Imhoffe lately? I know the DailyKOZ and the Left has it's share of bomb-throwers (rhetorically speaking), but do the rest of us really want to live like life is a WWF show? Good God, Imhoffe, get some professional help, will ya? I'm sure you were a wonderful guy, and must have earned considerable affection from your constituents over the year, but you're embarassing yourself and those self-same loyal supporters now.

To the people around Sen. Imhoff who love him, I respectfully suggest that you seriously think about helping him now, when he needs you. Whatever legacy he has is in danger.

As old as this guy is, was Oklahoma even a state when he was born? If it wasn't, maybe Inhofe isn't a citizen. Geez, when will these zealots give up?

“Unless these idiots are claiming President Obama had a different mother, his birth certificate is irrelevant. His mother was a US citizen, by birth; therefore, his birth (regardless of the father) rendered him a natural born US citizen, And, oh by the way, if his father had been a US citizen and his mother not, he would still be considerd a natural born citizen regardless if the birth occured in New York, Hawaii, Iran, Russia, or any other place on this earth.

Republican…get over it, already!”

So true.

And — white guy here, by the way — you have to wonder if the real issue underlying all of this birther nonsense isn't the fact you alluded to: that his father was black and his mother white. I know many people for whom “race-mixing” is still a problem. They're not as open about it like they were when I was a kid 50 years ago, but if you scratch a Birther or one of the yahoos throwing around “socialist” slanders, I'll bet you a barbecue dinner that old racial attitudes, and white supremicist sentiments (and you don't have to wear a white robe to believe that your race is superior) are bubbling beneath the surface.

Lots of attitudes have moved beyond the old, raw bigotry. But the bigots have just gotten more cautious and cowardly about expressing these sentiments, because they know the majority no longer shares that stunted view. I'm convinced that a LOT of the energy you see behind the birther lies, and the socialist hysteria, is based on nothing more complicated than a visceral dislike, or hatred, of the fact that the president's father was black, that his white mother married a black man, and that a black man is in the Oval Office. To these people, this is just not the way the world is supposed to look.

It's stupid, and it will ultimately fail. In the meantime, these clownish cowards are having their last day in the sun. I hope they enjoy it, because 10 years from now this whole episode will be laughable.

They're getting nastier, dumber. and more ignorant. This is how the white minority lost it all in South Africa. Good luck to this country.

Are they still around? I wonder how many will be able to take them seriously enough to elect one of them to the office of president? These folks are like a bunch of senile old has-beens, so bitter and angry at Obama for getting elected. As if he did it himself.

I'm an Okie, 65 years old, in all my life as a democrat, I have never saw such utter stupidity
as demonistrated by an elected official, Jim Inhofe is an embarresment to all Oklahomans.
I have never saw or heard of such disrespect for the office of the president as is going on now.
I did not like Geo. Bush, but I respected the office, why do these people continue to spread
hate and blatent lies?
Jim Inhofe, claims to be a christian, he need's to look in the mirror and ask what would Jesus
do.

Most of us don't hate, and many of us are horrified and saddened by the devolution of the right. But what we must do is stand strong in the face of hate, fear, racism and division; stand strong and be an example of what we want our country to be.

And if we do that, eventually we will get there.

They will not win.

This is just sick.

Wishing won't make it so, Red. This man is our president, whether you like it or not. And if we stand strong in the face of your hatred, you will not succeed.

We will, you know. You and your fear-mongering kind will not win this one, and America will be a better place for it, too.

Sorry. Elections have consequences. And you lost. Deal with it peacefully and respectfully.

Desperation has set in.The R's have no solutions.They will always be a minority party

Inhofe is a bible thumper and is one of the reasons I saw the light and became an atheist. How a bible believing Christian can possess such virulent hatred is beyond me. The same hatred Mohammed Atta had for the American people is the same kind Inhofe has for Obama. Religion tends to have that effect.

===”you have to wonder if the real issue underlying all of this birther nonsense isn't the fact you alluded to: that his father was black and his mother white”===

There are a couple of birthers out there who have expressed this sentiment.

Throw her in the brigg, she just doesn't want to serve her country!

===”Now, on the whole idea of the birth certificate for Obama, for example. You can do that. By the time you got a decision, it’d be ten years from now. And then the damage is already done.”===

Not unless Congress does it. If Inhofe really thinks that there is a “there” there, then he should get off his but and start a congressional committee to look into the issue. Inhofe happens to be one of the few people in this country with the standing to look into this matter, a U.S. Senator. Let’s see him man up and take action.

He won’t of course, because deep down he knows this is just nonsense.

And exactly what damage would inhofe be referring to? It would seem he had already decided that the outcome would be, “The court finds that President Obama could not produce another birth certificate and therefore we are ………..”
But since all the intelligent people out there know that would not be the outcome then he must be referring to the damage that such a ridiculous lawsuit would do the office of the presidency and to the nation as a whole.
Personally I'm glad that many republicans are playing to this very small percentage of their followers as it gives me confidence that after the 2010 elections their party will be history.
With any luck inhofe will be told get-out-hofe after the next election, (but I’m not holding my breath).

Stupid is as stupid does my momma always said. These “birthers” obviously need something
to occupy their time. Any intelligent and sane person has seen proof of the President's birth in Hawaii which was provided by the Republican governor of Hawaii. Sooooooooooooo Stupid

Please access the following link. It has been in existance since 2008 when candidate Obama was running for the Democratic nomination:
http://fightthesmears.com/articles/5/birthcerti…

[...] September 11, 2009 (non-posting) Update: David Weigel at WashingtonIndependent.com had the following to say about the [...]

I think that's great! Judges are finally getting smart and moving these things along so that they can be dismissed faster, save taxpayer money. Poor Red and WND think that they're getting the chance to have a hearing…they will, but it will be to dismiss for lack of, in Orly's case, intelligence.

What cracks me up is don't these people realize that we live in a youtube world. They can't fart in public without it being caught on camera.

Why even talk about the birthers anymore. they're crazy, let's leave it at that. We need to go back to the old days when these people would get put into asylums. What happened to those? we need to bring them back.

Perhaps someone should “Beck” Sen Asshofe by asking him to refute what 'some people say' about him fathering a child out of wedlock 15 years ago to a woman other than his wife. Perhaps he will offer proof that he was not in a certain place at a certain time, or that he doesn't have proof that checks for child support have been paid to the mother ever since the birth. It could become a standard question at every press conference he gives.

That thing with his STEP-GRANDMOTHER has been proven false. She corrected herself immediately after, and stated that BARACK OBAMA JR. was born in Hawaii. It’s also not fair trying to take a misunderstanding of a question, from a woman who doesn’t even speak English, and was going through translators.

You’re obviously just a bigot, who can’t let this go, because you have been shown the truth over and over.

You're right…the damage is already done because you have been elected by some dumb folks in Oklahoma. Give up this nonsense and start doing something productive for a change or is that outside your lexicon and absent from your DNA.

Peole don't get locked up in asylums anymore, they go in the internet.

As much as I hate Inhofe I believe he was explaining to this birther the futility of suing
Obama on anything. I'm not so sure he was saying obama wasn't a citizen just that suing
him would a waste of time.
Either way InHofe is an embarrassment to OK and the senate. He is living in some past
time warp not this world.

If Obama has a long-form, why doesn’t he show it? If he doesn’t have one, why not? People that hide things, usually have something to hide. He works for us. We have a right to know! We have a right to demand it!!!!!!!!!!!! We need to send a message to Obama and to EVERY OTHER POTENTIAL VIOLATOR OF OUR RULE OF LAW!!!!!!!!!!!

http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/04/aka-o…

Bye bye Barry! hahaha

Well, now we know the truth captainsteve…you're hiding something. By writing under a fake name you have to be. Therefor, using your logic, you are a bigoted foreigner trying to insert yourself into our political system. Well, I and the rest of the citizens of this great country know the truth and are here to tell you…

THIS IS OUR COUNTRY AND OUR PRESIDENT, YOU COMMIE SYMPATHIZER…GO BACK TO WHERE YOU CAME FROM!

A birth certificate, attested to by the Republican governor of Hawaii, isn't good enough? Or is he part of this grand conspiracy, too?

What the f**k is a long-form birth certificate? The one I have from Montana is half of an 8.5×11 piece of paper, with information on the front and back.

Not catering to the ridiculous demands of lunatics does not constitute “hiding something.” The only “message” you and the rest of the birthers are sending is that you are bat-shit crazy and possibly dangerous.

What is a “long-form” birth certificate? I'd never heard that term until crazy birthers like you started using it.

I don't know why this simple fact is so hard for you to accept: Barack Obama is an American citizen born in the state of Hawaii to an American mother and Kenyan father, and the lawfully elected president of the United States. His complexion is probably darker than yours, which I assume is lilly-white, but that's not a delegitimizing factor–nor very surprising, when you consider that he has an African father.

What's really ironic is that Barack Obama's Republican opponent, John McCain, was not qualified, as defined by the constitution, to be president because he was born ouside the US. John McCain was born in Panama.

captainsteve,

It's out there. Period. Why go on and on and on with this ridiculousness? After all the comments you've posted demanding proof, with the certificate online, in various places, I'm not so sure you would accept the real thing if it were placed directly in your paws.

Why go on? You called a previous poster “ignorant”. That just shows a lack of education. That is quickly remedied if they want to learn, which any human with a working brain actually WANTS.

You sir, are stupid. That is willful ignorance. And insane. That is doing the same thing over and over, expecting different results. You have been told over and over, how to find the real thing. You refuse to accept, in the face of actual fact, that Barack Obama is our President, that he is an American.

What is it exactly that keeps you yelling and screaming like barnyard fowl waiting for big pieces of sky to come raining down? The link you left on your last post says it all. The steady drip. I won't need to go there, I already realize there won't be anything worth reading there. You went there and came out, apparently quite a few brain cells shorter than when you went in.

You call yourself an American? This is unAmerican activity you're engaged in, here, pal. You're also lucky, because we don't prosecute the insane here, in America.

I'm waiting for someone to hit her with Rule 11 sanctions.

We should all want to:

1. End the controversy about Barack Obama's legal right to be president, being a citizen of Indonesia for about 15 years or more, even after 18 years old;

2. To see if he legally changed his name back to Barack Obama after adoption and living as B. Soetoro, an Indonesia citizen;

3. To see if he legally was naturalized as a citizen of the United States;

4. To see if he attended schools in the United States as an Indonesian foreign student on a student visa;

5. To see if he obtained a scholarship available only to foreign students, including a Fullbright Scholarship while at Occidental College.

6. To see if the surrender of his and his wife's law licences in Illinois had to do with lying about identity or nationality;

7. To see if he swore falsely in application for president, senator in Illinois, or law licence;

8. To gain release of his documents proving his identity, nationality, citizenship and travel to foreign countries;

9. To determine what passport he used to travel to Pakistan in 1981 when travel was forbidden to US citizens;

10. To see if he fraudulently obtained or created a Selective Service Registration and associated print-out that he had not signed up for at age 18 to deceive voters;

11. To see if he swore truthfully before Chief Justice Roberts that he, Barack Hussein Obama, will protect and defend the Constitution of the United States. (Both name, eligibility and purpose)

12. To see if he used his office to get Major Cook fired and his Afghanistan orders revoked to silence his legal attempt to verify Barack Obama's legal authority to be Commander In Chief of the Military and President of the United States. Note that both the president and Major Cook took oaths to defend the Constitution and that is all Major Cook was doing.

13. To see if his father listed on his original full birth certificate is Barack Obama Sr. a British citizen of Kenya; and if the place, date, time and details of his birth are accurately portrayed in the Certificate of Live Birth posted by his campaign. Hawaii official said he was natural-born citizen (That requires two American citizens with no legally divided citizenships.)

14: To see if his adoption by Lolo Soetoro was registered to his birth certificate; and if he hid it with the posted COLB.

15. To see how his sister also had a Certificate of Live Birth from Hawaii, though born in Indonesia, proving it was not necessary to be born in Hawaii to have such a certificate.

16. To see if these are criminal charges of voter fraud to deceive voters to gain control of the US government, forgeries, lying under oath, covering up illegal activity, and any other legal charges appropriate.

17. To see if all these charges can be quickly checked through the Quo Warranto in the Donofrio case.

Answer these and I'll accept the Usurper in Chief as my lawful president.

“Keep it up, fellas. It's good for the Democrats. You're marginalizing yourselves out of impact and legitimacy.”

If that were true, you'd be keeping your mouth shut and praying for us to continue.. No, you see the writing on the wall and you're trying to discredit where you can to shut us up. Guess what? It's not going to work. Nice try, no cigar

“You sir, are stupid. That is willful ignorance. And insane.”

A little moderation would be nice – both self and blog management.

The day he shows the real document is probably the day he can no longer be the president of the US

That's true, TF, the day after he leaves office in about 7 1/2 years. And then, when he shows how out-of-touch with reality you blowers are, he'll laugh at you all through his retirement. That will be entertaining.

I'm really not trying add to the debate but I thought it was funny congresswomam Schmidt didn't think President Obama should be in the Oval office and actually agreed with a “birther” about Obama the case of the missing birth certificate. It can be found on You-Tube.

Sorry, PR, no way we want to shut you up…we actually really don't even care about you. We just enjoy pointing out how delusional and out-of-touch all you blowers are…for entertainment value. Besides, every time one of you blowers open your mouth, you prove how truly brain-dead you are. So, please, keep it up…otherwise go back to your basement, turn on reruns of Gilligan's Island, and stick your thumb back into your mouth and it can remind you of Obama's privates and you can imagine yourself giving a black man a blow job…which is all you truly want to get out of this.

“1. End the controversy about Barack Obama's legal right to be president, being a citizen of Indonesia for about 15 years or more, even after 18 years old;”

Great Steve, glad to see you're finally aboard. The controversy is over and Obama's in the WH. Now you can go back to your little cave and dream up some other conspiracy to occupy your time, since it's obvious that reading and comprehension have no place in your life.

TaitzFan. . .do you know that her Georgia hearing starts in 15 minutes?

captainsteve,

The first question has been answered…….over and over and over. 2 through 17 mean nothing. Where do you people get this crap? You need to stop eating those toadstools.

No worries, I don't want you to go away. It's too much fun watching you nuts pee in the wind.

flar,

No sense in telling them stuff like that, they know, they just can't make that small intellectual leap the rest of us possess, in accepting the real thing when it is presented. It might seem cruel, but poking fun at these mental defectives is kind of rewarding. As long as they keep this up, they're removed from the national discourse, which is, in a sense, a public service.

There is no use to argue with the “Birthers”. If they want it to be true,
in their minds it IS true. There is no proof that would satisfy them and
to prove their point they will produce false birth certificates, create
“facts”, and pretend to be lawyers or experts on the constitution.

That’s really all I want to say on the subject; it’s childish and silly.

There is no use to argue with the “Birthers”. If they want it to be true,
in their minds it IS true. There is no proof that would satisfy them and
to prove their point they will produce false birth certificates, create
“facts”, and pretend to be lawyers or experts on the constitution.

That’s really all I want to say on the subject; it’s childish and silly.

Captainsteve: why do you lot persist in spouting so much nonsense, which is all certifiably false.

To take one little example: you state that you wonder what passport Obama used to travel to Pakistan in 1981.

His US one of course. The problem with your point is there was NEVER a travel ban for US citizens from visiting Pakistan. It's a convenient myth generated by the birther clowns to generate some “Oh my gosh” feelings in the easily duped.

Another point: minors cannot renounce US citizenship. Never mind.

Besides, sorry dearest: Hawaii has repeatedly claimed Obama. The only way the birthers will defeat him is at the ballot box. And, I will work hard to ensure that won't happen.

People like Senator James Inhofe should just admit their racism. They can't truly believe Obama isn't a legal citizen. It's been proven that he's a native of the United States. Born of at least one American Citizen and born on U.S. soil.
None of them raised a stink about John McCain having been born in Panama. Why isn't he referred to as “exotic”? Because exotic is just another world for “not white”.
How exotic is it be be raised by white people in the heart of Kansas?

Why would it be ten years with such an important issue. Looks to me like the Supreme Court could step or the Congress(ha-ha).Not one of the Democrats have the decency to do it and most of the Republicans. We have no one to help us but ourselves and Dr. Orly Taitz.

captainsteve, Fullbright Scholarships are granted to U.S. Citizens.

Another Fact that probably won't get in the way of your delusion

Let's not forget, either, that Bush vs. Gore, that great larceny of the modern age, took quite a lot less than 10 years to resolve.

Judge Carter in California has now set a trial date in January 2010 on this issue. He set a hearing date for October 05 to decide if discovery should be opened. As Obama has sealed his records and the birth and hospital records in Hawaii are protected by privacy laws opening discovery to allow a complete and final answer to this issue would be welcomed. Once there records are produced experts in immigration law and documents can render an opinon on his eligibility.

The issue for most people is and remains the failure of the Democratic Party to vet Obama before the primaries. All that was eventually done was Obama posting a photograph of a Certification of LIve Birth (“COLB”) on a website in June 2008.

The COLB posted by Obama on its face does not prove he meets the natural born citizen test. In the 1960's up to the time the laws were changed in Hawaii in the 1970's, anyone could walk in off the street and get a birth certificate for an infant on their word. In other words there could have been fraud and the only way to find out is to produce the records that confirm what Obama has said that he was born in a hospital in Hawaii. Obama has claimed he was born in a specific hospital in Hawaii. The name of the hospital, doctors and witnesses are all left off the COLB produced by Obama. Obama has refused to sign a release and produce the vault birth records that the State of Hawaii has announced they are holding, Obama has refused to produce the hospital records.

So at this time we have a person sitting in the White House that has not been fully vetted. That has been and continues to be the issue. Obama seems to have trouble understanding the vetting process.

Go back and look at the Hillary blogs in December 2007. They were filled with questions about Obama's birth certificate. So the Democratic Party was clearly on notice of the issue. They did nothing about it. Finally in June 2008 Obama posted the photograph of a COLB to factcheck, moveon and some other websites that have no vetting authority on behalf of the Democratic Party.

This is not about race, it is about the Constitution and the Democratic Party who clearly are willing to put their interests over the People by allowing a potentially unqualified candidate's name to be placed on the primary ballot. This issue is not going away and will be here in 2012 should Obama decide to run again.

Thanks, Doc, now we know to look for it to be thrown out on Oct 5th. Maybe we can have Queen meet Orly outside the court for a 1-song concert…”Another one bites the dust, another one bites the dust…”

Wow, I can tell you’re informed. Gov. Linda Lingle looks a little mannish, but I’m pretty sure she’s female.

Wow, I can tell you’re informed. Gov. Linda Lingle looks a little mannish, but I’m pretty sure she’s female.

For your reading enjoyment, the motion for dismissal that totally destroys Orly's case

http://www.politico.com/pdf/PPM124_birthersdism…

The Judge will grant the motion Oct. 5.

Gary Kreep is involved in the case again, so it is not just Orly. Glad that you seem to be able to predict Judge Carter. He is a fine jurist. Good luck getting Queen together. The singer may not be at his best.

once the video hit the 'net, she almost broke her cankles backpedaling.

As for Presidents willingly opening records, did anyone ever find where Geo.Bush was during a year or so of National Guard duty? somehow, I dont hear birthers crying for the record which was to be available at all times, found. So no raceism? The rabid right is a discredit to the party I once belonged to but became ashamed of, long ago.

Judge Carter had to force them to sit together and make nice to each other. Apparently they were behaving like a couple of brats fighting with each other in the court room.

Well, after Judge Carter grants the motion for dsimissal, Oct 5, Orly can appeal the decision all the way up to the Supreme Court if she wants.

Unfortunately for her, they will remember her from the last time when she insulted the Cheif Justice by demanding that he recuse himself from the inaugeration ceremony.

I figure I've got the same chance of getting Queen together as Orly, and Kreep, have of making it to discovery…none. So, I guess I'll just have to stand outside with a karaoke machine and sing it myself. Orly will understand…my singing rates the same as her lawyer skills, none.

There's a hearing going on right now in Columbus GA, Federal Building. . . .and emergency hearing for Captain Connie Rhodes, MD, flight surgeon, who is scheduled to be shipped to Iraq tomorrow on September the 12th. Capt Rhodes states that she is willing to go to Iraq, as long as she knows that the orders going down the chain of command are lawful orders. This case to be certified as a class action case, as she represents a whole class of plaintiffs situated in similar position.

Usurper obummer. . .show your true records!!!

Glad that you seem to be able to predict Judge Carter. He is a fine jurist.

That's why it's easy to predict what he will do. Any judge worth his salt would throw such baseless cases out of court, as many have done before him.

Oh, bummer, you FAIL.

You don't think that the SCOTUS would actually allow Orly to appear before them, do you Anti? Then again, maybe it would be a good idea. They could film it and use it to show lawyers what NOT to do when appearing before the SC. Wonder if the SC has ever laughed any lawyer out of court?

“You have failed me once again, Orlyscream.”

Like I said, the law clerks will no doubt remember her and round file her request for cert.

RATS!!! Now that would have been entertaining. Could you imagine her trying to pull some of that stuff on the SC. I don't think the court would look too kindly on a lawyer standing before them pouting and begging and not even citing any case law or proof to back up her assertions. I would have laid odds that Orly would have been in tears before it was over. Oh well, guess I'll wait for the movie…

“CaliforniaDreamin'” in a dream states as fact/truth…

“Barack Obama is an American citizen born in the state of Hawaii to an American mother and Kenyan father”

There you go! Proved it yourself. Obama is an “American Citizen”, but NOT a “Natural Born Citizen” (TWO US Citizen Parents, born on US soil) as required by The Constitution.
Thus INELIGIBLE for office. Case Closed.

Wrong. Try reading the Constitution.

The United States has two types of citizens, naturalized and natural born. Obama is natural born.

FAIL

mantis – I agree with you.

However, it gets sooo boring pointing out the same facts to people who simply will not believe them. If any court throws out their vexatious claims, that court is immediately accused of being “obviously biased” or, indeed, accused of being part of the great conspiracy.

You are correct. Obummer is a Usurper fraud!

Even Nancy Pelosi knows. That's why she sign two different campaign documents, one without the usual constitutional eligibility statement?

Check this out. It’s the DNC’s nomination documents (yes plural) for Obama to run for president. Only one is normally filed. In Obama’s case, two were filed. The difference between the two (both signed by Pelosi) is that one omits the standard verbiage swearing constitutional eligibility of the candidate.

“and that the following candidates for President and Vice President of the United States are legally qualified to serve under the provisions of the United States Constitution.”

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_c3WtQv44wGc/Sp4O5_BKf…

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_c3WtQv44wGc/Sp4Rx6CcR…

.

yaaaaaaawwwwwwwwnnnnnnnn.

Oh boring. More conditions and supposed breaches being invented. Now Pelosi is in on it too? It's funny that only the Birthers are the true American patriots who see through this Great Conspiracy, isn't it?

Explain it to me then. I'm open to new ideas. Why would the constitutional eligibility statement be removed in one version of the document?

I don't even need to look, Steve, these are probably the same type of documents as the Kenyan birth certificates that Orly is trying to pawn off. When are you ever going to come out of that cave and see the light of day? There is so much more wonderful in the world than spending all your time on the internet giving nameless/faceless morons who have no education the time of day. Oh well, you can lead a horse to water, but you cannot make an idiot any smarter.

But us folks in OK keep right on electing him over and over. Scary, isn't it.

The only thing natural-born about obummer is his gift of prevarication. I'd even go as far as saying it is SUPER-NATURAL!!!!!!!!!!

I know, Steve, no one ever told you about photoshop. Easy, neat, and ready to fool idiots like you. Sorry to burst your bubble, but if you believe in this crap, then you deserve to be treated like one.

Question the breach if the breach was not invented to bolster a frivolous claim.

And his citizenship, moron.

The President has to be an American citizen by birth. Period. There are other requirements – other than that he/she should be at least 35 years of age, be of a sound mind and not serving any prison sentence.

The whole world knows that one of Obama's parents was a US citizen and the other was not. But somehow you think that only the FBI and the Federal Election Commission didn't know that??!!

wrong. . .the constitution says the pres must be a special type of citizen. . .natural-born (as opposed to native-born or naturalized etc)

obummer probably isn't natural-born. He's a usurper.

Hardly. . .He's an illegal alien. . .Kenyan. The Bum should be deported with his Aunt.

Honestly, Steve, do you lay awake at night trying to make these things up? There are 2 kinds of citizens, and only 2. Sorry, but just because you don't know, understand, or even have any clue about it, doesn't make your delusional thoughts true.

You are so stupid, you deserve obummer.

There are 6, MORON! STFU!

“Natural born” simply means he was born to one or more American citizens, which he was. That's all it takes, and he didn't even need to be birthed on American soil, as it also applies to babies who are born abroad to.American citizens.

Sorry, Steve, every time you post you prove you have the stupid market cornered. I'm curious, what are the 6 different kinds of citizens that exist in your mind? This ought to be good…

wrong. . .ask yourself why only the president has to be “natural-born.” No other political offices have the “natural-born” requirement. Why is that? Got an answer?

What the hell do you mean “wrong”? I actually went and looked it up before posting, something that you apparently don't bother with.

Do your own research idiot. . .I'll give you a hint though. There are 5 listed in the US Constitution. . .freakin dumba$$.

Let me guess. . .you went to public school, didn't you? dumbas$

Ah ok I see, you're a troll. Should've just said so, carry on.

Actually, Even if both your parents are aliens, if you are born in the U.S. you are a natural born citizen. – Wong Kim Ark

LOL you are out of your freaking mind, Steve.

Jim, Steve is just putting his faith in a document that can be photo-shopped like anything on the internet, including what you put your faith in: Mr. Obama's COLB.

Jim, Steve is just putting his faith in a document that can be photo-shopped like anything on the internet, including what you put your faith in: Mr. Obama's COLB.

Dredging up the past eh?

Let's take a walk down memory lane.

Bill Clinton fired knuckle children into an intern's dress, teaching the nation's youth a BJ is like a handshake.

Both Bushs took us to war in Iraq over false pretense.

Reagan's Contras were basically treason.

Carter established a useless growth of government called the Department of Energy. Remember the DOE's original purpose: Reducing our dependence on foreign oil.(how's that workin' out?)

Basically we've been tag-team raped by both sides of the aisle, ever since good ol' Woody Wilson established the federal reserve, putting all of our currency value and economy in the hands of a private bank with unelected board members.

Secrets aren't well kept in Washington. The proof of Obama's qualification is that he is sitting in the White House. If he wasn't legit, we would have by now President Biden. Some folks won't accept the truth, because the rumor is so much juicer. Let's start another one: that he has coffee every morning (in the private quarters, obviously) with Elvis.

Get off my lawn!

Captainsteve posted some links to images earlier, but here's the article they came from. A very conservative paper, from Canada. I advise everyone to take this with the same grain of salt the birthers take with the colb, and the obotomizers take with the Kenyan BCs.

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/14583

I do — the other Founders hated Alexander Hamilton, not born in the colonies as they were.

You're welcome.

Get off my lawn!

wrong again moron. . .Hamilton was grand-fathered in. Natural-born only applied to those born after the signing of the constitution. . .Freakin' idiot. No wonder the country is falling about and morons want Dingle Barry to give them a handout.

thx epi. . .quite an irony is it not? They question everything on the internet except Dingle Barry's fake COLB! Strange world.

A website that explains the issue thoroughly, and links sources(though I haven't vetted all of them):

http://www.theobamafile.com/ObamaNaturalBorn.htm

So is Inhofe implying there should be an alternative to a lawsuit and just what would that alternative be when he states “the damage is already done.” What is going on with these people?

captain of the dick ship obviously, Drop dead loser

That the best you can do, Moron?

Go get your welfare check. I'll fly my jets.

I studied civics and can tell you with 100% surity that a presidential candidate must be a 'natural born' citizen to be eligible. This is not the same as a citizen. There are obviously different means of becoming a citizen. By your logic, any immigrant who files for and is granted citizenship is eligible. This is simply not the case.

Also, 'natural born' means both–yes, BOTH–parents are citizens.

Steve, do you mean that constitution with a 14th amendment that you seem to conveniently ignore. That constitution that says nowhere that a natural born citizen has to be born of 2 citizens'? That constitution that you are so terribly misstate every time you post? That constitution that most folks here have read and understood and can't believe you're even american because you misquote it so often. The constitution that we americans, including the president, follow but you ignore when it doesn't fit your needs? Is that the constitution you're talking about?

Actually, epi, I put more faith in a document that has been verified by 3 state officials, including the governor, and backed up by 2 announcements in the paper over anything steve wants to put out here anytime. And if you're so shallow you'd believe an anonymous poster over people who are willing to stand up, show there face and be held accountable over a nobody who thinks that this gives him some sort of power (probably while he's whacking off in front of his computer) then I have nothing but indifference to anything you have to offer. Sorry…I just don't understand how you can live your life not wanting to see the truth.

Dude, you need to go back to grammar school. You wrote so many sentence fragments I lost track of your message. You must be another public school success story. Am I right?

I'll try to be a mind reader and address what I think you were trying to write. The courts have been mixed on the definition of “natural-born” citizenship, but generally it has been recognized as being the child of two citizen parents. The courts need to decide that issue, not the DNC or the obamabots. That's only one issue however.

First he has to prove that he's not an illegal alien. He won't because he can't. He's an America hating, Saudi King bowing, dictator loving, former cocaine addict, racist Kenyan usurper Chicago thug! Send him back to Kenya with his Aunt!

.

Steve, Steve, Steve…take your thumb out of your mouth and repeat slowly…Obama is the President. Obama is the President. Obama is the President. There now. Can you explain why, via the law, it is not up to Obama to prove it at this time? Or are you just going to start pouting again and stick the thumb back in? I think the most likely response is to call me a name and make something else up…probably the same boring argument you've used before. Can you please try to come up with some new material?

Here's why, Douchebag. Watch it and weep.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZgHEGP5Y78

Your obamassiah is a fraud. Repeat after me, obumer is a fraud. obummer is a fraud.

.

Steve, have a nice evening. It's been entertaining and I hope that at some time in the near future you come out of that cellar and see what a wonderful world it truly is. Otherwise, enjoy your illusions and I'll see you on another birther thread to see how your material is coming along. Remember, imagination is a wonderful thing, and a curse to those who get lost in it.

Thx Jim, I wish you a nice evening as well.

The first and most obvious would be to somehow prevent BHO from running for re-election in 2012 such as with state laws requiring original longform Birth Certificates.

So now you want to repeal the 10th amendment Red? Or do you just want other states to give up what few rights they still have left? I think you'll find states very reluctant to do that.

lol

You flunked civics? Figures

Natural Born means “Born in the U.S.”

Or, more accurately natural born mean “by the nature of birth.” in other words if a something is an innate characteristic at birth, then it is a natural born characteristic.

For example, you can be a natural born athlete even if both your parents are total klutzes.

It is the same way with citizenship. If you are born on U.S. soil, then you are automatically a U.S. citizen. You have obtained citizenship by the nature of birth, thus you are a natural born citizen, even if your parents are illegal immigrants.

Lesson in manners. Stopped reading at the end of your first line. You want to get people's attention, be logical, be smart, but don't bash. There's nothing cool about blowing your hot air on people.

Some Dumb-F state legislatures in Missouri proposed something like that. They wanted all candidates to present a long form BC to the state before being placed on the ballot. That lasted about 5 minutes before someone pointed out that, like Hawaii, Missouri only has “short forms.”

Your loss, not mine.

One more time.

There are two types of citizenship.

Natural and naturalized.

Natural citizenship means that you were born a citizen.

Naturalized means that you were not born a U.S. citizen, but became one afterward.

How hard is that to understand?

Well, since he is a senator, maybe he should man up and start impeachment proceedings.

Senator Chicken squat won't do that because he knows it's B.S.

We are still waiting for you to list these “6″ types.

So, CaptainSteve, what are the 6 types of citizenship again?

LOL

http://federalistblog.us/2008/11/natural-born_c…

Here's a quote:
Rep. John A. Bingham commenting on Section 1992 said it means “every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen.” (Cong. Globe, 39th, 1st Sess., 1291 (1866))

If every stupid comment made by a congressman had the force of law, we'd be in deep shit in this country.

Scotus, 1898, United States v. Wong Kim Ark trumps Bingham's remarks any day.

If you're too busy to read it, say so, but don't ignore it while pretending to know all that was said in it.

Anti, I'm still at a loss at to which country's constitution CaptainSteve is reading. The things he comes up with are almost straight out of some of Orly's filings. I have to assume he's using the constitution of the country he lives in, which must be communist or a dictatorship. Since most of what he cites is not in ours. But, he's got me curious too…what are the 6 types?

Amazing how little people who only have hate in their heart know about the laws of the land, isn't it Anti?

Like I said, do your own research. Every time you ask, you prove how stupid you are. You wouldn't ask unless you thought I was wrong. You must be another one of the “government option” school success stories! Just admit you're stupid and don't know, Moron.

I already gave a hint. You're so pathetic, I'll give you another hint.

Arnold Schwarzenegger is one of the 6 types.

Actually, Arnie is one of 2 types…naturalized. Steve, you really do need to read our US constitution and not the one from where you're at. It's just confusing you.

If mr Inhofe doesn't think it 's worth suing Obama over i guess it isn't worth reelecting mr.Inhofe isn't either.If he refuses to stand for the people who gave him his job no matter how diffcult it may seem to be,then he won't be getting any of my support either.That may not seem like a big deal but If one person won't then there are others who will? and they will be my Sentor.Too bad Inhofe you have gotten lazy,and been too long on the so called job you were hired for.

LOL poor Inhofe. He really stepped in it.

The birthers think he is a sell out, and everyone else thinks he's a nut.

[...] Inhofe on Obama By David Ben-Ariel Inhofe: It’s Not Worth Suing Obama for His Birth Certificate Because It Would Take Ten Years to Ge… [...]

[...] Inhofe on Obama By David Ben-Ariel Inhofe: It’s Not Worth Suing Obama for His Birth Certificate Because It Would Take Ten Years to Ge… [...]

[...] Sen. Inhofe on Obama’s BC By David Ben-Ariel Inhofe: It’s Not Worth Suing Obama for His Birth Certificate Because It Would Take Ten Years to Ge… [...]

[...] Inhofe: It’s Not Worth Suing Obama for His Birth Certificate Because It Would Take Ten Years to Ge… [...]

Since you Obamamaniacs avoid WND, I thought I'd post this:

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageI…

Nixon was pardoned for lying.
Clinton was ignored for lack of morals.
Obama will be forgiven for cheating.
Rome did not fall in a day.
The USA has only a few decades.

Sorry Adam, I don't avoid it. I just ignore it, since they've already proven and admitted that they will post fake documents and lies. If I want information, I'll go someplace else. If you want fiction, you can have WND.

No it hasn’t. Look at all the US Presidents who only had 1 citizen parent.

Watch out, your ignorance and stupidity is showing.

I just had a second thought on that, Anti. If Missouri had passed that legislation, no one born in Misery would be able to run for President in Missouri. Wonder how many other candidates this would have snagged where their states have only the short form? Of course, we all know that if the candidate was white, this would be waived. Again, showing the blowers true colors.

I think you mean it's not worth suing him because you can't win. You'll LOSE and it will prove legally he's a US citizen. My god you people are retarded. He's an American, get over it already you losers.

So what does he suggest? Revolution? It's now come out the treacherous DNC knew Obama wasn't eligible according to our Constitution, and undoubtedly many conservative cowards did too. Regardless, Emperor Obama, the fraud? and foreigner, has got to go!
http://www.davidbenariel.org

hilarious

Oh boy, David, just what this board needs. Another blower on here blowing about their site. No thanks, I'll leave it to the delusional to give you clicks. Fleece them for your beer money.

My site offers plenty of links about this topic of the fraud and foreigner Obama/Soetoro/Obama, which intelligent folk grasp while others just growl about while they cry in their beer.

No, your site offers a lot of way out theories and fake documents that no sane person would believe in a million years. Past that, Obama's president and you blowers are the only ones crying in your beer. BTW, are you another one of those that wants to see Obama's privates. I mean, that is really low, even for blowers.

It's sad you hate the plain truth of the Bible and history. Sounds like you've been truly Obamatized.

Oh yeah, I know your type David…use the bible to prove your hate, especially of the black man. I use the bible too, to pray for you and hope you finally see the sins in your way and quit letting the devil lead you down the path of hate and destruction. I know that the satan already has control of you, you can fight back and beat it. Come back to the word of Jesus, YOU CAN BE SAAAAAAAAAAVED!!!

Rats…lost him. Oh well, let's hear your theories Dave, you have to convince me that you have some real info and not made-up crap to get me to click on your site. Convince me a click is worth it to me…give me some reason to disbelieve that Obama is not our legal president.

I hate that which is evil and love that which is good, just like the Bible teaches and my articles prove.

I don't need you or your clicks, but what legitimate Americans need is for the apparent president usurper to bring his documents to light and stop keeping the United States in the dark. Even you should question his miserable failure to do so.

Cool, I don't need to give them to read fiction. Hawaii says he was born there, including 2 newspaper articles confirming the birth. That's more proof than any of you blowers have even come close to coming up with. So, if you don't want people to read your own version of fiction, that's fine with me. Have a nice evening.

The proof we have is the shady character Emperor Obama has FAILED to bring his documents to light but the fraud and foreigner did let his slaves produce fiction that has been clearly discredited.

Obamatons can mindlessly blather whatever they want, but the facts remain Obama/Soetoro/Obama has miserably failed to prove he is a natural born citizen. Sad you just don't get it or apparently don't want to be confused with the facts.

Awful lot of typing for saying nothing, David. He's proved it just fine, can't help it if you don't understand anything as mundane as the constitution and the law of the land. It's a shame too, those who wrote the constitution did a wonderful job. And SCOTUS even likes Obama. Pub legislators are falling over themselves backing away from the claim anytime they open their mouths otherwise, because they too know what kind of kooks you folks are. Poor David, Orly, and the rest of the blowers…rats are abandoning ship faster than you can create web sites to bleed the idiots.

If you want to be deceitful and dishonest with yourself as your idol – the fraud and foreigner, the president usurper Obama/Soetoro/Obama – and remain in denial he's paying expensive lawyers hush money to keep America in the dark by refusing to bring his documents to light, you're reprobate, Obamatized, and given over to delusions of Obama's grandeur. Sad.

Since Obama apparently doesn't understand plain English, maybe if we ask him “Where's the BIRF Certificate?” he'll finally understand. After all, his racist comrades like the discredited Van Jones (another “conspiracy” proven true), are foolishly proud of speaking eubonics… Talk about the dumbing down of America. Now we have Obamatons who don't care for our Constitution or Republic and hate those who do.

I'm being completely truthful…you've got absolutely nothing. You don't have the constitution on your side, you don't have the courts on your side, you don't have the law on your side, and you're losing republican congresspeople almost daily as they are exposed. So, braniac David, what are you gonna do? You can't get the courts, you can't get congress, you can't even get the army ( I know this is a little hard for your tiny mind to grasp, but the POTUS is also the CIC). You got so little of nothing, all you're left with is weak insults. Have at it, I know the source…your insults only serve to amuse me.

What legitimate Americans do not have is any legitimate proof that the apparent president usurper, the fraud and foreigner Obama/Soetoro/Obama, is a natural born citizen.

WND has reported that Obama has kept the following documents in the dark, fearful to bring them to light, as they expose him for what he is:
his kindergarten records, Punahou school records, Occidental College records, Columbia University records, Columbia thesis, Harvard Law School records, Harvard Law Review articles, scholarly articles from the University of Chicago, passport, medical records, files from his years as an Illinois state senator, his Illinois State Bar Association records, any baptism records, and his adoption records.

The treacherous DNC knew the shady character was suspect and pimped him anyway. The whole bloody lot must be held accountable and brought to justice.

The Mistake, The Evidence, Obama is NOT a constitutional president
The Theory is Now a Conspiracy And Facts Don’t Lie
By JB Williams
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/14583

What We The People have is an apparent president usurper who refuses to be transparent with his long form birth certificate and is wickedly intent on keeping Americans in the dark, failing to bring these documents to light that expose Obama/Soetoro/Obama as a fraud and foreigner, as WND has bravely reported:

his kindergarten records, Punahou school records, Occidental College records, Columbia University records, Columbia thesis, Harvard Law School records, Harvard Law Review articles, scholarly articles from the University of Chicago, passport, medical records, files from his years as an Illinois state senator, his Illinois State Bar Association records, any baptism records, and his adoption records.

The treacherous DNC knew Obama/Soetoro/Obama wasn't eligible according to our Constitution and pimped him anyway, deceiving all those useful idiots who voted for him. The whole bloody lot must be brought to justice.

The Mistake, The Evidence, Obama is NOT a constitutional president
The Theory is Now a Conspiracy And Facts Don’t Lie
By JB Williams
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/14583

Won't you let the truth set you free? Deprogramming from the Obama cult is possible.

It looks like Obama is heading to court and then we'll see if he's a pig wearing lipstick or just a pig with an over inflated ego that will show the american people that he's just a kenyan with socialist communist up bringing like the birthers said all along?
It took longer to get tricky dick to resign ?I wonder how long before Barry will try to resign?or get impeached.He may even have some company when they discover that Nancy Lying Pelosi knew about his ineligibleabilty before he was nominated.It's looking like the house of Barry is starting to rock,and the wind is blowing the rehortic he spews right back in his lying face?right along with his health care plan that has put americans at risk of ration health care by the goverment .They have already lost over 81 million on tarp and bailouts funds that we the people will have to eat the loss that they have sold the bonds that was a 1/3 of their worth back to the banks that sold them.Thanks Tim G ,your a real piece of work cheating the people you are suppose to be working for.

or fact check.org? for all the lies a man can stand.Im watting to hear that they was the one who delivered Barry Obama,and he's actullay from OZ, Hawaii?

I just read this,and I can't tell you that finally we will see where this man from.We already know where his loyalities lie,and it's not in the USA. The Obama obts are running scared now.
I guess Micheal was right “It don't matter if your Black and White,if you are a Usurper you will get punished? Let's hope Pelosi will get hers too?

The Republican governor of Hawaii and the Dept of Health have stated that the birth certificate that obama has online is his actual birth certificate and authenticates his american citizenship.

And can you prove that you were born in the united states. And do not tell me that the governor of your state has authenticated your birth certificate. That just will not do.

And how about Joe Wilson. Could his parents have taken an illegal immigrant and got the authorities to forge a birth certificate? Why is he in Congress?

Nice rant again, David. I understand your need to feel important. But, until/unless you can prove he wasn't born in Hawaii, you got no chance. No one will give you the time of day to try and go back and bother old teachers, classmates, etc with your wild unsubstantiated ideas. I know you won't give it up, you're too lost in the illusion you've created for yourself. So, enjoy pissing into the wind, buddy…and do bath every once in a while.

Obama owes America an apology! The president usurper Obama/Soetoro/Obama has YET to prove he is legitimate, that he is a natural born citizen, and doesn't deserve any respect. Sheeple can bleat support for the fraud and foreigner all the way to the slaughter, while brave souls will expose Emperor Obama has no clothes!

There's a very apparent why Obama/Soetoro/Obama fears to bring these documents to light and continues to fail to be transparent:

his kindergarten records, Punahou school records, Occidental College records, Columbia University records, Columbia thesis, Harvard Law School records, Harvard Law Review articles, scholarly articles from the University of Chicago, passport, medical records, files from his years as an Illinois state senator, his Illinois State Bar Association records, any baptism records, and his adoption records.

Are Obamatons so Obamatized they just don't get it? Or is it they simply don't want to be confused with the facts?

David, the only apology anyone here needs is from you and the other blowers. He's proven he's a citizen to the american people…and you've proven how little you truly know and understand. You'll have to come up with a lot more than way out theories and misstatements of the constitution and laws of the country to worry our POTUS. But, keep on living in your dream world…at least there you can only hurt yourself.

As bravely reported by WND:
The Hawaiian certification of live birth Barack Obama posted on his campaign website and distributed to select news organizations as proof he was a “natural born citizen” would not be accepted as a “birth certificate” even for some Hawaiian state government eligibility issues, WND has learned.

The investigation follows a Honolulu Star Bulletin column Saturday, which quotes a state Department of Health spokeswoman as saying the state's current certification of live birth is recognized “as an official birth certificate meeting all federal and other requirements.”

The website of the Department of Hawaiian Home Lands, however, states clearly the certification of live birth touted by the Obama campaign, White House press secretary Robert Gibbs and a host of other Obama defenders is not acceptable as a form of identification to qualify under this program.
http://tinyurl.com/m4zsqq

WND? You mean another site that passes off crazy theories as fact? Well, you can hang your hat on them…and we'll just laugh. That is the legal BC of Hawaii and you and WND cannot change that by making up facts.

Those who cannot refute, ridicule; cannot debate, defame. These facts, however disturbing they are to some, remain true:

The “Certification of Live Birth” posted online and widely touted as “Obama's birth certificate” does not in any way prove he was born in Hawaii, since the same “short-form” document is easily obtainable for children not born in Hawaii. The true “long-form” birth certificate – which includes information such as the name of the birth hospital and attending physician – is the only document that can prove Obama was born in Hawaii, but to date he has not permitted its release for public or press scrutiny. Oddly, though congressional hearings were held to determine whether Sen. John McCain was constitutionally eligible to be president as a “natural born citizen,” no controlling legal authority ever sought to verify Obama's claim to a Hawaiian birth.

Obamatons also vainly attempted to dismiss the plain truth WND exposed about the racist Black Communist Van Jones as a “conspiracy” and have pie all over their face. When will they ever learn? It is the fraud and foreigner, Obama/Soetoro/Obama, and his useful idiots who are engaged in the biggest cover-up in America's history.

Again, I have to agree with you, David, you cannot refute the Hawaii BC so you ridicule. Thanks for pointing that out. BTW, it does prove he was born in Hawaii, since officials have verified it and just because you won't accept it is of no consequence…he's still POTUS.

Actually, David, It is you and the other blowers that are involved in a massive conspiracy, fortunately for you, a conspiracy of stupidity is not against the law. So, have fun with WND and make sure to donate generously, since the only reason they keep this up is to soak you idiots.

Where's the birth certificate? Why has your god failed to bring his long form birth certificate to light? Do you buy many bridges in the desert?

Jim, why remain in denial? How Obamatized can you get? The president usurper, the fraud and foreigner, Obama/Soetoro/Obama has FAILED to bring to light any of these documents, including his long form birth certificate and sheeple like you are aiding and abetting his terrorism against the Constitution, our Republic and We The People:

his kindergarten records, Punahou school records, Occidental College records, Columbia University records, Columbia thesis, Harvard Law School records, Harvard Law Review articles, scholarly articles from the University of Chicago, passport, medical records, files from his years as an Illinois state senator, his Illinois State Bar Association records, any baptism records, and his adoption records.

So much for being transparent!

Runningbear…did you not realize this case has already been thrown out of court? She filed in Texas and lost. She won't win here. So, enjoy getting your hopes up for nothing.

FYI They are set for Jan 2010,and they haven't been thrown out of court? sorry to disappoint YOU!
Have a nice day?

according to your list: molested by Dems. and raped by Rep’s. so
naturally, paranoid. Since it’s exhausting to be paranoid, and I can
tell you many times, in individual lives that we’re “taken”, I will
only concentrate on the paranoia that I think will get innocents
killed or other wordsbrutalised As I agree that I and many I know are
hostage to the insurance industry that can yank us around, and do, in
any way they please, holding our choices for health in their hands.
This ranks high on my list. If I’m to be counted among the
“duped” (again) let it be by my emerging belief that all past
organized religion is a crock, namely, another form of mind control,
and that actually, if ANYONE BELIEVES in the Bible, they are
undoubtedly seeing our current President, Barack Obama, as did their
biblical counterparts, unaccepted in his own country. It really
doesn’t matter to me if he’s from another planet: in fact, Why Not?
Wouldn’t that be fitting for the “second coming”? Chew on that, Sarah
Palin (I too was a hockey mom from further No. than she, a Rep. legacy
that actively supported many a right wing candidate until I began to
open my eyes and look farther than my cocoon.) If you’re worried
about loosing democracy, start to worry about who you’re loosing it to
the fastest. I don’t want it to be religious zealots, insurance
dictators, gun toting crazies, name branding, diarrhea-of-the-mouth-
terrorizing, right wing talk show fanticizers who cater to zombies
that never question THEIR “facts”! I see this as a revelation of the
“hidden” truth that prejudice (fear) is alive and well and as pogo
would say, “we’ve met the enemy, and the enemy is US!” sorry, gotta
leave this to the conspirators, now.

Take a look at the Certificates Pelosi signed to put Obama on the primary ballots:
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageI…

Ah good. More obviously forged documents from WND.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?st…

Good grief these people are nuts. If, and I say If this was true, then pray tell why something wasn't done before the election, why is it that no one said a word about this so called conspiracy before the election? And my next question is, DO YOU DO YOU REALLY WANT MCCAIN/PALIN IN OFFICE It gives me chills to think of what they would have done to us.

Umm, you're confusing a “Certification of Live Birth” (which Obama's sister, who was born in Indonesia, has) and a “Birth Certificate.”

Only the Birth Certificate reports things like the hospital and doctor names.

Unless you're psychic, you know nothing about where he was born.

Sorry Eliot, maybe you should call out the FBI since Hawaii says he was born there. No Psychic needed. Plus, 2 birth announcements in the papers and a witness who talked to the doctor the day he delivered Obama. That's 3 strikes and your out!!!

If Barrack or Barry has nothing to hide then why are all his files sealed? His college documents, documents about his parents? Come on people do you believe everything the tv tells you? If you do then I guess the tv is getting its job done, while we fail as informed citizens…

[...] http://washingtonindependent.com/585…get-a-decision Inhofe: It’s Not Worth Suing Obama for His Birth Certificate Because It Would Take Ten Years to Get a Decision [...]

A judge dismisses military doctor’s case calling it frivolous
http://www.wtvm.com/Global/story.asp?S=11141631

Tells me that he doesn't want some delusional birther nuts digging around in his past and threatening ex-classmates and teachers when they won't say what you blowers want to hear. I'm sure that those people appreciate it.

David, the only denial is by you and the rest of the blowers. And, that's probably the best reason anyone could come up with to keep them sealed…the last thing his ex-classmates and teachers would want is deranged blowers coming around threatening them when they don't say what the blowers want to hear.

The shady character Obama/Soetoro/Obama has yet to prove he is a natural born citizen, even if his useful idiots remain in denial of his duplicity, having fallen under delusions of Obama's grandeur. Sad.

http://www.davidbenariel.org

BUZZZZZ…wrong again David. He has proven it because the state of Hawaii says he was born there. I can't help it if you don't believe in the constitution, SCOTUS precedence, or the law of the land…it is what it is. Besides, if you refuse to believe in anything like that, who the heck are you going to get to listen to your arguments. And no, I no longer click on blower sites…too much forgery, misquoting, and general delusional ramblings.

Actually he was born to an underage woman who did not meet the residency requirement at that time and to a Kenyan-Brit which could have made him a dual-citizen except Britain did not recognize dual-citizenship. Hence whether born in Hawaii, or more likely Kenya, the man Obama was born a Brit before he was adopted as Indonesian Barry Soetoro. You anti-bithers keep adhereing to that fraudulent computer image of a Hawai Certification of Live Birth & I'll keep repeating that the man is not eligible to be prez. So lets just agree to disagree until the truth finally comes out.

More lame excuses from sheeple who aid and abet Obama's deception. Bottom line is the fraud and foreigner, the president usurper FAILS to be transparent with his long form birth certificate and pays hush money to keep legitimate Americans in the dark, failing to bring these documents to light that obviously expose him :

his kindergarten records, Punahou school records, Occidental College records, Columbia University records, Columbia thesis, Harvard Law School records, Harvard Law Review articles, scholarly articles from the University of Chicago, passport, medical records, files from his years as an Illinois state senator, his Illinois State Bar Association records, any baptism records, and his adoption records.

Inexcusable! THINK about it (those who haven't been completely Obamatized and maintain some critical thinking ability).

Despite the mindless bleatings from Obama''s sheeple, the facts remain the same that the president usurper, the fraud and foreigner, has failed to bring his long form birth certificate to light, as well as his kindergarten records, Punahou school records, Occidental College records, Columbia University records, Columbia thesis, Harvard Law School records, Harvard Law Review articles, scholarly articles from the University of Chicago, passport, medical records, files from his years as an Illinois state senator, his Illinois State Bar Association records, any baptism records, and his adoption records.

Clearly something isn't kosher and Obama/Soetoro/Obama's afraid to show it and others fear being confused with the facts those who love our Constitution have patiently and repeatedly pointed out:

OBAMA'S A FRAUD, A BIG LIE!

Actually, the only mindless bleatings going on are on your side. And, the facts do remain the same…Obama is the duly elected leader of the USA and you're just a poor excuse for a human being. Just because you don't like it, doesn't give you any rights to anything you're asking for…thankfully. Because the only one I've found lying is you by misquoting our constitution and making up laws that never existed. Let me end by saying that I know that you blowers are after only one thing…to see Obama's privates and possibly give him a blow job, since that's about all you're good for.

It's sad that apparently you don't care for the facts, having been thoroughly Obamatized (having fallen under delusions of Obama's grandeur) and bleating Obamisms/*blackspeak, and are hatefully racist with double standards and hide behind Obama/Soetoro/Obama's half-blackness to avoid facing the hard facts that the fraud and foreigner, the president usurper, continues to arrogantly refuse to be honest with legitimate Americans and open up for public scrutiny those documents that would prove whether or not he is a natural born citizen, as our Constitution requires (believe it or not).

Even though you just don't get it, and don't care to grasp the severity of this Constitutional crisis, for those who do I will repeat what the treacherous dog Obama/Soetoro/Obama has failed to disclose, knowing such information would indict him and those who aid and abet his terrorism against We The People, our Republic and our Constitution:
his long form birth certificate, his kindergarten records, Punahou school records, Occidental College records, Columbia University records, Columbia thesis, Harvard Law School records, Harvard Law Review articles, scholarly articles from the University of Chicago, passport, medical records, files from his years as an Illinois state senator, his Illinois State Bar Association records, any baptism records, and his adoption records.

*blackwhite- The ability to accept whatever “truth” the party puts out, no matter how absurd it may be. Orwell described it as “…loyal willingness to say black is white when party discipline demands this. It also means the ability to believe that black is white, and more, to know black is white, and forget that one has ever believed the contrary.”

http://www.newspeakdictionary.com/ns-dict.html

It's sad that facts get in the way of a good rambling…yours. If I'm standing up for the constitution and rule of law against someone trying to overthrow the duly elected leader of my country using forgeries, non-laws, and misquotes from the constitution, I'm exactly the type of person Orwell was looking for…someone who questions people like you trying to make this country into your own fiefdom. In that case, I'm doing good

“The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it.”
– George Bernard Shaw
(1856-1950)
Irish comic dramatist
http://quotes.liberty-tree.ca/quote_blog/George…

************
“Where's the Birth Certificate?” We have every reason to be “cynical” of this apparent president usurper, the fraud and foreigner, even if others just don't get it or care to and hate those who expose it, afraid to leave their blackspeak plantation.

Emperor Obama has got to go! Justice demands it.
http://tinyurl.com/bbx7fm

The president usurper, the fraud and foreigner, continues to disrespect We The People, trample our Constitution and despise our Republic by his miserable failure and arrogant refusal to stop keeping America in the dark and bring these documents to light that will reveal whether or not he is a natural born citizen:

Obama's failed to be transparent with his long form birth certificate, and he's suppressed his kindergarten records, Punahou school records, Occidental College records, Columbia University records, Columbia thesis, Harvard Law School records, Harvard Law Review articles, scholarly articles from the University of Chicago, passport, medical records, files from his years as an Illinois State Bar Association, any baptism records, and his adoption records.

Those who haven't been Obamatized, who reject the blackspeak of the Obamatons, who maintain critical thinking ability and great love for our country and Constitution, know the treacherous and shady character Obama/Soetoro/Obama is a clear and present danger to our national security and is far worse than 9/11.

BLACK DAY IN AMERICA: Obama Wins, America Loses (he “won” aided and abetted by scandal-ridden ACORN and illegal campaign contributions, both domestic and foreign)
http://tinyurl.com/lf4yhl

The people “have a right, an indisputable, unalienable, indefeasible, divine right to that most dreaded and envied kind of knowledge– I mean of the character and conduct of their rulers.”
– John Adams (1735-1826)

If Obama is the usurper he appears to be, America has a BIG PROBLEM – regardless of whether or not those who have been Obamatized grasp the seriousness of the situation or others (who amount to conservative cowards) are afraid to state the emperor has no clothes.

Either Obama is a legitimate natural born citizen or he is a president usurper who needs to be dealt with swiftly, as the law of the land demands.

Every legitimate American must write and/or call their representatives and demand proof Obama is a natural born citizen.

“It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men.” — Samuel Adams (1722-1803)

http://www.davidbenariel.org

If Obama isn't a fraud then why is he with holding this information? I have read all the rants on here with no legitimate answer found as to why he is keeping his life secret. That would end this tirade but Obama continues to run and hide. He is also found to be a habitual liar just like he is a christian which is also a big lie and he run on this lie to be elected only to find out he is in fact muslim Obama is nothing but a liar. End this now by showing the American people the necessary documentation and transparency and cooperate quit hiding behind the lies and show us the long form and all your records on eduation that are sealed. When somebody has to hide something and spend a fortune doing it he has something he doesn't want you to see. Maybe you Obamanites need to ask yourself why he is doing this? You people deserve also to know why he is doing this why not get it over with and show us and put this to rest finally if your right fine then people will go away but if were right what do you have to loose? We should all get behind this for all our sake who knows what will find but were not gonna find out by bickering and fighting one another lets get the answers together and put it to rest then all could be satisfied.

Obama must have the burden of proof that he is a natural born citizen eligible to be president. Since he has failed to prove his eligibility the public has a right to remove him from office. Instead of a tea party we need a march on Washington to regain control of the White House.

Wrong again, Obama proved it and Hawaii authenticated it. Good as gold anywhere in the US. Why can't you folks at least have a minimal amount of intelligence when spouting about things you know nothing about?

French get MD doctors to come to there home when they are not feeling well.
But stupid Americans have the best system it makes you drive to the Doctors office wait for hours yet you are to ill to go to work, but hard work you are doing by going to the doctor.

And in after hours the French have a crack team of commando Doctors to make home visits. The Senators of USA do not get that even – forget average stupid joe American fool.

And when you call 911, you don't speak to a dispatcher but to a Doctor. And if an Ambulance is sent it has a doctor on board with 7 EMT's and they take the ER to you no need to wait to take you to the ER!!!!

I wish I were a Frenchwoman!

hey jim. You better check to see if there was any poison in you kool-aid.

obama really sucks!! >:[

obama really sucks!! >:[

OBAMACARE/OBAMA ELIGIBILITY
MARCH ON WASHINGTON DC
At the Ellipse – President’s Park South
17th St & Constitution Ave, NW
DATE: SATURDAY, MAY 29, 2010
TIME: 12:00 NOON – 4:00 P.M. Help Make This Go Viral!!!

http://obamacrimes.com/?p=844

obama really sucks,you are the same