Dick Armey: Don’t Attack Joe Wilson, Because Obama Called People Liars, Too

There was a difference here, The President called the peopl who were actually lying, liars, and Joe Wilson was supporting a position that was in, itself a lie when he tried to shout down the President.

I re-read the text of the President's speech and did not see the word “boldfaced” anywhere. copy/paste: “the claim, made not just by radio and cable talk show hosts, but prominent politicians, that we plan to set up panels of bureaucrats with the power to kill off senior citizens. Such a charge would be laughable if it weren't so cynical and irresponsible. It is a lie, plain and simple.” He stood before no one and called them a liar. Some people don't know what civility means I guess. So who is lying Mr. Armey-where did the President stand before congress and call someone a boldfaced liar??

Republicans = Inbred morons

I don't think he feels bad enough – he is already defending his outbursts and declaring to continue to fight against the Obama Health Care Plan, when he should be stating he will work with Obama and Congress.

I don't think is was spontaneous and I don't think he should be representing any civilized people. He is an example of what is going wrong in this country – rich, elitist men doing whatever they feel like whenever they feel like doing it. He should be brought down in some way for this. He had to be told by his party to apologize and I do not think it was sincere or would have been offered at all if he was left to his own decision on the issue.

I am very glad Joe Wilson does not represent me. I am very Glad that President Obama is representing this entire country. Joe Wilson needs to remember that President Obama was elected by the People OF The United States OF America!!! He IS our president and he deserves every measure of respect that office demands — especially from a US congressmas whom should be setting an example of how a democracy functions.

There is a time and place for everything – he knew better, but he decided he was above decorum and misbehaved – I hope he is sanctioned or given some appropriate 'smack' because I don't think he understands what he did.

Congressman Joe Wilson should not be condemned. He merely got confused into thinking he was at a town hall meeting. He was surrounded by ordinary Americans: lawyers, doctors, retired corporate executives. This was obviously a town hall meeting. Also, he is of the Wilson clan. They have a genetic need to correct false statements by US Presidents. Remember Ambassador Wilson? Thirdly, like a good conservative, he was paying a debt. He owed somebody over $200,000 worth of opposition to health care. All Americans should remember. When you are bought, stay bought and give good value for your bribes.

Leave Joe Wilson alone. He has a right to call a lie a lie without being stupidly censured. Dems were not punished for booing Bush so get over it. Freedom of expression is being compromised here. Punish Code Pink for their invasions, Black Panthers for their intimidation, etc., etc. That is Joe Wilson's job and his obligation to his constituents. I fully support his right to speak out, be it negative or positive.

Contact Rep. Joe Wilson directly to express how you personally feel about his recent outrageous behavior:

Rep. Joe Wilson (R, SC-2)
House Office Building
Washington, DC 20515-4002
Phone: 202-225-2452
Fax: 202-225-2455
Email: Joe.Wilson@mail.house.gov

The rules are you cannot call the President of The United States of America a “liar.”

Also, President Obama never yelled “out of turn” at anybody, much less in front of the entire viewing audience of The United States of America.

“Unparliamentary Speech”

A Member should avoid impugning the motives of another Member, the Senate or the President, using offensive language, or uttering words that are otherwise deemed unparliamentary. These actions are strictly against House Rules and are subject to a demand that the words be taken down. A demand that the Member’s words be taken down results in the clerk reporting the words and the chair ruling on the propriety of the words. (If the demand is made in the Committee of the Whole, the Committee rises and reports them to the House where the Chair rules on their propriety).

The offending Member may obtain unanimous consent to withdraw the inappropriate words or the demand may be withdrawn. Following such a withdrawal, the Member proceeds in order. However, if the Member’s words are ruled out of order, they may be stricken from the Congressional Record by motion or unanimous consent, and the Member will not be allowed to speak again on that day except by motion or unanimous consent.

The GOP has completely disintegrated and fallen to new lows. We are listening now to the words of someone with the moral actions and background of Dick Armey?? (research for yourselves how he came to be married to a student and divorced his wife). He STILL has the 'good old boy' politics, though we are in 2009, and he is one who believed the words from Dick Cheney about the Iraq War, which he now admits he should never have voted for. Shouldn't surprise us he tries to defend Joe Wilson, he is of the same mold!
FYI, I am a former Republican and I am ready for the likes of a Joe Wilson or a Dick Armey, to exist no longer. Facts about the health care issue are not where your concern lies, yet another political move to the far right, now that has your attention.

Joe Wilson, nor anyone else has the right or privilege to yell at anyone holding the office of President of the United States during a speech. As usual, people confuse freedom of expression with correct conduct….not the same thing.

I am glad you liked my blog enough to answer. Very little “correct conduct” has been demonstrated of late by leftists so why expect it from the righties?? I think everyone has a right to his/her dissention in a non-violent way so Good for Joe…you have a right also even tho we disagree.

Well, looks as if Joe willingly withdrew his “inappropriate comments” and apologized, did not speak the rest of the day so sounds like he followed these little parliamentary rules all by himself. Too bad we do not see same done during the meetings I have viewed of late. These rules perhaps need some revamping to include “the elected officials should at all times maintain deep respect for the citizens who elected them only for the representation of the rule of the majority, not the officials' dreams”. I like that rule, don't you?

yes and no…

1. Elected officials should ALWAYS respect their voters, no matter
what side of the “issue” they stand and visey-versey (heh)…. Nobody
should be subjected to “heckling” in politics. This isn't sports. I
feel that “hecklers” are lead by their emotions which should not play
a direct roll in creating or governing law. You can be emotional on
the inside and in private, but yelling never accomplishes anything. I
think “hecklers” should be escorted out of any debate, speech, court
etc.

2. I absolutely think that the elected officials should challenge
what the think is wrong (even if its the majority) and promote what
they “dream” to be right. They are elected to represent the “people”
of their county, city, state and country. BUT the “people” should know
when stepping into a voting booth exactly what the person for whom
they are casting that sacred ballot stands for and what they want to
accomplish while in office.

Its a hard eff'in job, politics…. with all those special interests,
the uninformed, the non-mind changing and the greed oriented (and the
mixtures of all of those) finding the right balance can be tough.
Politics ain't easy, especially now. I can only hope that our leaders
can come together and do what they were elected to do. Create a fair
and just world for all our people. Our lives are in their hands.

I hope you have a fantastic weekend. I unfortunately am moving in our
cold wet DC weather…. but that always means pizza and beer!! Gotta
take a little bad to get the good sometimes, ya know ; )

Take Care ZK

Peyton-

Good points, Peyton. However, it is very sad that many people could not judge the person for whom they voted when stepping into the booth in Nov. Our so-called leaders cannot come together now since there is too much divisiveness among the citizens as well as the politicians. Too many chiefs, not enough indians who want to follow blindly. Too many nasty words have been blasted out in public throughout the campaign as well as afterwards so one might expect exactly what happened when Joe Wilson blurted out “You LIE!” After so much non-professionalism, outbursts, even fights on the floor of the House would not surprise me. One hit deserves another if one has that frame of mind. I find the entire “show” totally hilarious and the most lacking in intelligence as far as the mentality in DC goes in many more years than I want to share with you. Have a nice weekend. Cya at the Tea Party. :)

President Obama addressed a joint session of Congress on Wednesday night. Joe Wilson a member of Congress from South Caroline, “You Lie”, or”"You Liar” words were heard around the world. The world hiss and gnashed their teeth at the Republicans. It was a free ticket at the Circus. These White Southerners have no respect for a Black President.

Remember the Dred Scott decision – Judge Taney's ghost was riding Joe Wilson back and just wouldn't let him go. “The black man has no rights by which a white man is bound to respect”

Nancy Pelosi failed to bring order to the House floor. She just dropped her lip and let the disorderly conduct by the republicans continue throughout the speech. Joe Wilson should have been escorted out.

I dunno; Wilson certainly doesn't SOUND like he is from SC. Guess you don't know what a southern accent from that state sounds like. Dunno if half of the South even knows about the Dred Scott decision. Maybe you live in the past. Wilson yelled “You LIE!” He didn't say a word about race. BTW, is Obama more black than he is white? He sure looks and sounds white.

obama was lying. what else would you call something thats not the truth? I dont care whos saying the lie. President or not. Where was all the outrage when the dems were booing President Bush? A little double standard. Go Joe. Joe Wilson for President 2012

GOOD SHOW,JOE.WE LOVE YOU!!!

Did you forget in Obama speech when he said “THAT IS A BALDFACE LIE” Obama is allowed to call people liers, but nobody else can.HMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!!

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