Rep. Trent Franks: I Came Within Three Days of Launching an Obama Citizenship Lawsuit

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Friday, August 28, 2009 at 4:06 pm

After a week of unwanted attention that seemed to end with him signing on to Rep. Bill Posey’s (R-Fla.) bill to demand birth certificates from future presidential candidates, Rep. Trent Franks (R-Ariz.) has released the audio and transcript from the town hall where, according to the Mohave Daily News, he had talked about suing for proof of the president’s citizenship.

The real story on what Franks revealed at the town hall? He was “terrified” of Obama and “willing to go into a lawsuit,” and “did all kinds of research” that, at first, did nothing to calm him. He only saw 1961 newspaper reports of Obama’s birth “about three days before we were going to launch a lawsuit.” According to the congressman’s spokeswoman, Bethany Haley, this period of investigation and decision came before the election.

The transcript:

The ironic part about this is I was one of the few Members of Congress that was willing, if I could come up with a way to prove that Barack Obama was not born in this country, I was willing to go into a lawsuit. I don’t know of any other Member of Congress who was willing to do that, because I wanted to make sure that we were protecting both the Constitution and, quite frankly, I was terrified of this guy. But I wanted to do it in a way that comported with the honest evidence that I have in front of me. And so we did all kinds of research. We found all kinds of conflicting research. And we had to say, ‘Okay, I’m going to divorce myself from politics and I’m going to look at the evidence for what it is, and see what we come up with.’ And one of the things that happened, about three days before we were going to launch a lawsuit, is that we found several different newspapers that had shown that Barack Obama was born in Hawaii two years after it became a state. Now, there was no way to have forged that… I just don’t have evidence that shows me that he was not born here. Now, I know that everybody says that they’ve got it, but I’ve never seen it.

Franks posted this at RedState.com along with a frustrated rant about the media coverage he got. “My actual remarks were the exact opposite of that which was blindly repeated by countless main stream news outlets,” he wrote at the conservative site.

Indeed, the original stories suggested Franks was about to sue, not that he’d considered suing in the past. But the fact that Franks was within 72 hours of filing this before the election is more of a shock than he seems to think it is. At that point, even a frivolous lawsuit, if filed by a member of Congress, could have become a national story.

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Anonymous
Comment posted August 28, 2009 @ 11:29 pm

I believe that up until fairly recently, due to privacy laws, HOSPITALS sent the birth information to the papers, not parents. That’s what happened when my kids were born…I never called the paper, but there they were, listed in the announcements. And the family lived with her parents…why is this so hard? That’s how her mother ended up raising Barack after she died…don’t you think if he had been living with his father in Kenya, he MIGHT have been raised there? Just a thought…


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Anonymous
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 12:45 am

Oh I don’t know. At least if he had actually had the guts to file the suit, he could say that he followed his conscience.

Trying to pretend that he couldn’t have found those birth announcements within 2 hours of beginning any diligent Google search is ridiculous. The birth announcements aren’t hard to find or hard to think of, if you’re being honest.

So I would argue that being willing to lie about whether you were ever going to file a frivolous suit makes one a bigger douchebag than merely filing suit.

But we’re quibbling over degrees of bigness. Both actions qualify as gargantuan douchebaggery.

It’s like the difference between Saturn and Jupiter when compared to Earth. Sure, Jupiter is bigger than Saturn, but they both dwarf Earth, so there’s no real need to have a pissing contest to see which one’s bigger.


Anonymous
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 12:50 am

I always get a kick out of counting the scalps you’ve taken, Florida. Even when some of the people who get outraged over your posts are otherwise intelligent, non-birthers.

But you haven’t done anything in the same league as “666″ in a while. You need to bring the fastball, high and inside. Enough with the curve and change-up. Time for the heat.


Anonymous
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 12:52 am

I know that there must be a reason you called Robert Gregoire a dining room table. I don’t want to spoil it with a Google search that tells me it’s a brand name, like Ethan Allen.

Please tell me there’s a funnier reason you called a person a piece of furniture.


boxxers06
Comment posted August 28, 2009 @ 8:46 pm

In Hawaii you don't have to show b/c to get an announcement in the paper ,all you have to do is call the paper and tell them you had a child.Also it has been proven that the barrack family never lived at that address that was printed.His mothers parents lived their.


Florida Christian
Comment posted August 28, 2009 @ 9:01 pm

Stupid Libs!

Hawaii is not even a state!


Anonymous
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 2:02 am

“Who are the barrack family?”

Oh come on, mantis. The barrack family is the family that lives in barracks. You’ve seen them. We call them “the Army.” They’re a family, or at least a brotherhood.

See, this is why conservatives question our patriotism. We’re so hung up on and moony-eyed about Barack Obama that we forget about our military. Hang your head in shame. Or at least go out for a few drinks tonight with your rich liberal buddies until you feel better about what you’ve done.


mantis
Comment posted August 28, 2009 @ 9:02 pm

In Hawaii you don't have to show b/c to get an announcement in the paper, all you have to do is call the paper and tell them you had a child.

False. The announcements are sent from the Hawaii Department of Health.

Also it has been proven that the barrack family never lived at that address that was printed.

Who are the barrack family?

His mothers parents lived their.

And we all know no one has ever lived with their parents, right?


strangely_enough
Comment posted August 28, 2009 @ 9:03 pm

Oh no, he's discovered the secret, evil, even secreter plan!1!

And, “lived their” what?


errol44
Comment posted August 28, 2009 @ 9:46 pm

Senator Intellectual finally figured out… whew! That was a close one.


Dennis
Comment posted August 28, 2009 @ 9:46 pm

Franks is unaware, I presume, of the lawsuits that have already been filed. And dismissed. But say this about Rep. Franks – he understands how the Republican voter thinks. Most are apparently as dumb as stumps.


gramiam44
Comment posted August 28, 2009 @ 9:48 pm

As an Arizona resident, I am ashamed that this ignorant,bigoted fool is part of our Congressional delegation. A substantial majority of us voted for this man as our President. Live with it!


Slim Cognito
Comment posted August 28, 2009 @ 9:49 pm

Yea, I'm going to be persuaded by a person who can't spell, use punctuation and has no clue as to the family name is of the person he's attacking.


gramiam44
Comment posted August 28, 2009 @ 9:50 pm

Florida Christian, Hawaii became our 50th state in 1959, two years before President Obama was born there. Your ignorance is very unattractive!


johnmartin
Comment posted August 28, 2009 @ 9:51 pm

So, they called the paper long distance from Kenya to get a birth announcment? They did live there. You just gave the proof. It was the 18 year olds parents address. The only thing more frustrating than birthers, is knowing that they vote with a head full of Rush Limbaugh.


johnmartin
Comment posted August 28, 2009 @ 9:53 pm

He is a Representative (Not a Senator). They are different. See School House Rock for further explanation


johnmartin
Comment posted August 28, 2009 @ 9:56 pm

Your kidding right? prove the guy who called you ignorant wrong by saying you were being satirical although the name doesn't imply in your favor. Real Christians don't identify themselves so narrowly.


arizonajack
Comment posted August 28, 2009 @ 10:00 pm

Who cares what this harelipped douchebag thinks? I'll bring a lawsuit against him to force him to grow a mustache to cover that hideous deformity from my children.


cperez4
Comment posted August 28, 2009 @ 10:01 pm

this sounds like the Sarah Palin school of mangled nonsense


whohearer
Comment posted August 28, 2009 @ 10:04 pm

I wonder if the same people would have protested McCain's legitimacy had he been elected, since he was not born in the United States, but in the Panama Canal Zone, which was, at the time, a protectorate of the United States, but not a part of the United States.


Talis13
Comment posted August 28, 2009 @ 10:07 pm

He is an ignorant racist member of the American Taliban.
What is the matter with you voters in Florida?
I suppose you believe in the tooth fairy too………….


MACV
Comment posted August 28, 2009 @ 10:09 pm

These people are NUTS. Now on to something based in Reality, like the deficit, health care & racism. The Health Care Debate is a “no-brainer”. Its like buying furniture. You can buy that sofa from the “Retailer” at a “Mark-up” or you can cut out the middleman and go straight to the “Wholeseller” and save a good sum of money. If you take the “FOR-PROFIT” insurance companies out of the equation and replace them with a Government-run NON-PROFIT system YOUR HEALTH CARE COSTS WOULD DROP DRASTICALLY. The nation's HMOs earned $6.7 billion in the first nine months of 2003, a 52 percent increase over the $4.4 billion reported in 2002, according to Weiss Ratings, Inc. HMO profits in California rose 46 percent in 2008, with nonprofit (what?) Blue Shield leading the pack, almost doubling its profit margin from the prior year (how does a nonprofit end up with major profits?). The money doesn't go towards your “health care”, it doesn't go to your “doctor”, it doesn't go for equipment. It goes directly into the pockets of the very people who are paying for the disruptions at these so-called “Town Hall” meetings and their SHAREHOLDERS. America get a clue and quit being buffoons or you will die because you can't afford “Health Care”, while Cuba, with its excess of Doctors and free medical care laughs their butts off!

As for the deficit, our tax dollars paid (and continue to pay) for the TRILLION DOLLAR wars in Iraq & Afghanistan. Our tax dollars also pay for the “Billions & Billions” of dollars in aid to Israel and other countries each year but I don’t see people jumping up and down screaming about “THAT MONEY”.

Every racist, every TPT Redneck (not the good rednecks), every white person who “Wants their Country Back” gravitates towards FAUX News and the Becks, the Hannitys etc., because they confirm their own preconceived notions and attitudes towards any uppity black man or hispanic or asian. In addition Beck, Hannity, Limbaugh et.al have to get their money from someplace, why not get it from the buffoons that believe in the tripe that spews from their mouths, many of these nitwits will buy their books too. Listen-up you Right-Wing Neo-con Racists. Hannity, Beck, Limbaugh, Malkin, Coulter etc., they all make MILLIONS OF DOLLARS a year OFF OF YOU, they have BIGGER & BETTER HOUSES than you do, they have a BETTER HEALTH PLAN than you do and they EAT BETTER than you do. They don't worry about LOSING THEIR JOBS because you give them your money, they don't wory about LOSING THEIR HOMES because you make their house payments for them. They are nothing like you they just love to USE YOU and you LOVE BEING USED! Once again it must be noted … The American population, on average, as a whole, reads, writes and comprehends at an 8th Grade Level, you're a bunch of easily manipulated 14 year olds, and they know it. All you have to do is ….. THINK ABOUT IT!


Talis13
Comment posted August 28, 2009 @ 10:10 pm

Florida (AmericanTaliban) Christian,

You ignorant tool.
Remove the IV dripping OxyRush juice from you vein. You dont have many brain cells left.


gkrasner
Comment posted August 28, 2009 @ 10:12 pm

Trent franks like every other repug talks out of the side of his mouth… but in his case he has a hair lip so it may be excusable…


bruin1954
Comment posted August 28, 2009 @ 10:13 pm

You really have to admire the forethought and careful planning of the Obama family, to consider the need for additional proof by way of an announcement and to take the time, in the midst of a new addition to the family, to make a call all the way to Hawaii, to get that birth announcement in the paper in preparation for their future plans for the take over of our great nation. With that type of generational pre planning, I am even more confident in our President and his plans for our country. I am happy that I voted for him.


Anonymous
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 3:15 am

Reference to Barney Frank’s response to the LaRouche lady @ a town hall meeting: “… like talking to a dining table.”


Robert Gregoire
Comment posted August 28, 2009 @ 10:15 pm

I wish that somebody would do that and settle this once and for all.


jimbo
Comment posted August 28, 2009 @ 10:17 pm

Does the right wing have a certifiable nut machine that gives and gives and gives? What in the hell is wrong with the repuglies? Is it because they recognise their brand is bankrupt, that they have no valid policy to hang their hats on, that they have nothing but 'no' to offer?


jimbo
Comment posted August 28, 2009 @ 10:17 pm

Does the right wing have a certifiable nut machine that gives and gives and gives? What in the hell is wrong with the repuglies? Is it because they recognise their brand is bankrupt, that they have no valid policy to hang their hats on, that they have nothing but 'no' to offer?


Blue
Comment posted August 28, 2009 @ 10:18 pm

Wait. Why is this even an issue at this point? Why doesn't the government produce the eligibility check they performed prior to swearing in Obama?

The article seems to imply that someone who is not legally allowed to be president can run, win, and be sworn in?

Got it a kick out of that – now where were we, oh yeah government health care…


jackejett
Comment posted August 28, 2009 @ 10:21 pm

We are going to be having Orly Taitz on our show tommorrow from 1-3pm

Please check it out and phone in if you have any questions for her.

http://www.rationalradio.org


gramiam44
Comment posted August 28, 2009 @ 10:23 pm

Not this Arizona voter, thank you very much. I was at the march in Phoenix last week and I wasn't a teabagger! MY Congressman is a Democrat and an outspoken supporter of Health Care Reform. Since I moved to Arizona, Democrats have taken two more Congressional seats and are eying more in 2010. In short, with the help of moronic types like Franks, we are turning this state purple. McCain and Kyl are now often referred to as the”twin embarrassments”.


trentfranksdouchebag
Comment posted August 28, 2009 @ 10:24 pm

Rep. Trent Franks said, “I Came Within Three Days of Launching an Obama Citizenship Lawsuit, then I realized, that if I did that, everyone would think I'm a bigger douchebag than I already am. So I decided against it.”


republicanstupidity
Comment posted August 28, 2009 @ 10:26 pm

IT'S BEEN SETTLED EXCEPT FOR DUMB FUCKS SUCH AS YOURSELF DINING ROOM TABLE


republicanstupidity
Comment posted August 28, 2009 @ 10:27 pm

HAHAHA TYPICAL STUPID REPUBLICAN


AdmC
Comment posted August 28, 2009 @ 10:31 pm

The thing is that McCain is “natural born” by law as was Mitt Romney's dad who was born in Mexico and ran in '68 which by the would make the O eligible if he were born in the Kremlin or Kenya of ONE single parent but he is not of a certain skin color so that is too much to swallow for some “true” Americans


sallysyracuse
Comment posted August 28, 2009 @ 10:33 pm

You just read that this guy has no proof that President Obama is not a US citizen and you come out with we're having Orly Taitz on your show. Which part of there is no evidence to support her story?


AdmC
Comment posted August 28, 2009 @ 10:37 pm

it was all part of their secret take over the US plan knowing he would be elcted in the 2009 election running against J. McCain and H. Clinton after G.W. Bush–the Russian Mafia told them this would be the case–don't you know anything? ; p


RightDownTheMiddle
Comment posted August 28, 2009 @ 10:38 pm

I'm embarrassed for the GOP and all its supporters……


EL pinche
Comment posted August 28, 2009 @ 10:41 pm

Hi digs her wig and clownish eyeliner


Rumblefish
Comment posted August 28, 2009 @ 10:42 pm

Rep. Franks…

Go fuck yourself you hair-lipped retard!!!


dizzypdx
Comment posted August 28, 2009 @ 10:42 pm

Sarcasm people, sarcasm.


Name
Comment posted August 28, 2009 @ 10:43 pm

Should have done it you fool. Then you'd have as much credibility as that lunatic Orly Taitz. Oh wait, you already do have as much credibility as she . . . ZERO.

I'm from Phoenix, and Rep Franks is an absolute disgrace to our state and county.


Blue
Comment posted August 28, 2009 @ 10:45 pm

Seriously for a second – it's not a matter of “…no proof he is not..” Please tell me that the government has proof that Obama's citizenship is such that he can legally hold the office. We seriously didn't screw this one up, did we?

Fun's fun I admit, but this isn't actually an issue, is it? Hate to be ignorant on this, but I can't tell if you folks are serious.


Blue
Comment posted August 28, 2009 @ 10:45 pm

Seriously for a second – it's not a matter of “…no proof he is not..” Please tell me that the government has proof that Obama's citizenship is such that he can legally hold the office. We seriously didn't screw this one up, did we?

Fun's fun I admit, but this isn't actually an issue, is it? Hate to be ignorant on this, but I can't tell if you folks are serious.


Blue
Comment posted August 28, 2009 @ 10:45 pm

Seriously for a second – it's not a matter of “…no proof he is not..” Please tell me that the government has proof that Obama's citizenship is such that he can legally hold the office. We seriously didn't screw this one up, did we?

Fun's fun I admit, but this isn't actually an issue, is it? Hate to be ignorant on this, but I can't tell if you folks are serious.


mohanna
Comment posted August 28, 2009 @ 10:47 pm

I wish you had. You would have to spend time and money, just for any court to refuse to hear it.


mohanna
Comment posted August 28, 2009 @ 10:49 pm

Don't be ridiculous, you couldn't be a bigger douche bag.


larspardo
Comment posted August 28, 2009 @ 10:50 pm

Are you suggesting that the republicans were going to use a trial lawyer?
The ones that they disparage so often; and file suit?
Why do these idiots even open their mouths?


toughcookies
Comment posted August 28, 2009 @ 10:51 pm

Hey dummie….
Arrest him if he is not a citizen…he is an illegal immigrant.

Are you chicken ?


JoeyTranchina
Comment posted August 28, 2009 @ 10:52 pm

Anybody is entitled to hold any opinion, if he or she is wiling to check the facts. I don't know anything about Rep. Trent Franks, but all this article tells me is that he hangs out with some people at the lunatic fringe of society who came up with a crack pot theory about then-Senator Obama's citizenship, which comported with his political prejudices, but when he checked the facts he found out that they were wrong then he went back to his fringe friends and told them so.

I am bothered by the fact that a member of congress would want this crack-pot conspiracy to be true, but the fact is — if these are the facts — he allowed his opinion to be controlled by facts and as I wrote at the beginning, he is entitled to his opinion.


Name
Comment posted August 28, 2009 @ 10:56 pm

So when he was pinned down, he admitted the truth, there is no evidence to support that Obama is not a U.S. citizen, but he succeeded in convincing thousands of Americans that we should be “very afraid of this guy.”


Manchesterian
Comment posted August 28, 2009 @ 10:59 pm

To think that President Obama just being in the race for presidency could have caused the uncovering of the level of apparent mental illness in so many elected Republicans is unnerving. Why didn't our most learned phychiatrists unearth this before? Protect the constitution indeed! The POTUS has a J.D. in Constitutional Law – he would know first hand that such an idea would not fly. Geepers!


Florida Christian
Comment posted August 28, 2009 @ 11:01 pm

You Libs are so stoopid! Dont you know that Obama has thousands of Black Panther Zombies that work for ACORN and Americorpse! He was born in Zambia and communicates with the reptillian alien overlords in England!

Get a clule Moorans!


michael_105
Comment posted August 28, 2009 @ 11:03 pm

I think thisis a planned Nuts to distract the conversation away from real health care reform. If they keep saying outrageous things we pay attention to that and not real health care reform.


larryv
Comment posted August 28, 2009 @ 11:05 pm

I think Rep Franks should file a lawsuit. Firstly , should any court in the country allow the suit to move forward, would end all the blather about the Presidents citizenship. Up or Down. But the truth is that Rep Franks and all the other “birthers” really do not want to know the truth, they prefer the doubts, the accusations, the bull ! It makes little people think they are very big. The fear the truth. I am sad that some of my fellow Americans have gone to such lengths to disparage this President. It is my belief that it is racist and bigots in this country mostly on the rights unwillingness to accept that the MAJORITY of the American people have elected a black man to lead the country. There disbelief and the subsequent nonacceptance have led them to lash out at the Presidents citizenship, comparing him to Hitler of all things and all the rest of the bile and poison. Sad times in this country when we should be shoulder to shoulder trying to solve the problems that face us.


Diane
Comment posted August 28, 2009 @ 11:08 pm

He was terrified of this guy? Why? Because he's black? And God forbid a black man be in charge of a bunch of white folks!


mombnnt1
Comment posted August 28, 2009 @ 11:09 pm

The Republicans are bound and determined to ruin this country. It is their crazy economic policies dating from the Voodoo economics to the hiding of the war costs by Bush that are breaking the back of our great nation. Franks is a looney tune who should be horse whipped and put out to dry…and the other jerks should be with him…wake up people ..these guys are making you out to be losers…They lie, steal your money, declare they are great Christians then blame someone else and you keep going for it…jeez…WAKE UP….


LibertyBelle
Comment posted August 28, 2009 @ 11:14 pm

Disgusting. That he would even admit this… perverse and unfounded garbage… These people are just disgusting.


JohnC
Comment posted August 28, 2009 @ 11:15 pm

Rep. Franks:

“I don’t know of any other Member of Congress who was willing to do that, because I wanted to make sure that we were protecting both the Constitution and, quite frankly, I was terrified of this guy.”

“Terrified of this guy.”

That just about sums up what the birther movement is all about.

Frankly, if I were dumb enough to believe in all the hooey about supposed death panels, death books, mass gun confiscation plots, government plans to take over health care and the economy, the imminent imposition of Sharia law, a civilian army, concentration camps and all the other hysteria plugged by FoxNation, I'm sure I too would want to manufacture constitutional arguments why Obama really isn't president.

This kind of nuttiness couldn't have been dreamed up by the creative genius of the greatest satire artists. We'd better document it well, because future generations probably won't believe that Sarah Palin and Glenn Beck were for real.


Lia Johnson
Comment posted August 28, 2009 @ 11:16 pm

He was terrified of President Obama? I'm not surprised at all. Typical GOP white-bread COWARD.


ajc9
Comment posted August 28, 2009 @ 11:16 pm

This man ought to be expelled from Congress immediately.


SusanMG
Comment posted August 28, 2009 @ 11:17 pm

It is amazing that these rich white Republicans are so terrified of an intelligent, calm black gentleman in the White House. And they were so afraid that they chose fluff over substance to run with McCain, thinking that we disgruntled Hillary women would come on over to the b**** from Wasilla with the Brady bunch in tow in every town. And they are still at it: willing to say anything, make up any lie, to bring this Presidency down and to stop health care for our own citizens, while they are perfectly happy to support wars, the death penalty, murder of an abortion doctor, people carrying assault weapons at peaceful rallies, torture, spying on Americans, the holding of people for years with no charges and no lawyers, not to mention the squandered surplus. NOW they're worried about money? Gee, where have you guys been when we were calling for the impeachment of Bush? Oh, right, he's a rich white Republican, and so his behavior is above reproach for you guys. It's getting tiresome tracking down the daily lies from you people.


SusanMG
Comment posted August 28, 2009 @ 11:22 pm

Oooh I'm scared. But not as scared as I was of Bush's private killers, the Blackwater crew. Not to mention the spying and torture and the erosion of our speech rights. And gosh, I haven't heard much about the Black Panthers in 30 years or so…


Steve X
Comment posted August 28, 2009 @ 11:25 pm

If you really plan on giving that moron Orly Taitz any airtime, you may want to change your URL. There's nothing even remotely rational about anything she says.


guest452
Comment posted August 28, 2009 @ 11:26 pm

this is just same old racist mantra works. coming out of the wood works next comes the hoods again repulithugs have gone completely no desputeing insane oh my god a black man's the president.


mycookie100
Comment posted August 28, 2009 @ 11:28 pm

Whats more, before Obama could raise a single penny for his presidential bid, the Bush White House, FBI, CIA and Justice Department all did a through investigation, or they couldn't have certified him eligible.
Call Franks and remind him, he's not smarter than all these agencies, POLITICAL GRANDSTANDING BY THE WINGNUTS AGAIN, boring


guest452
Comment posted August 28, 2009 @ 11:31 pm

when obama was elected president the republithugs went certifily insane every last one of them. every day a new one spouts insane rambling thoughts. the next step IS the white sheets and hoods AGAIN!!!!


SusanMG
Comment posted August 28, 2009 @ 11:31 pm

The other fact is, the Clinton team would have found it out first, were it true. They were looking under rocks to find something to turn the tide back to her…if the Clintons couldn't dig it up, it isn't there.


tonedaf
Comment posted August 28, 2009 @ 11:41 pm

IE; I wanted to deny the constitutional rights of the electorate who elected Obama. And I was going to do it under the guise of protecting the constitution.


dickdata
Comment posted August 28, 2009 @ 11:48 pm

Yeah, and I was within three days of marrying Angelina Jolie before I realized that Brad would be better for her.


no fun
Comment posted August 28, 2009 @ 11:48 pm

What kind of name is Franks? That's not american. Can we see your papers please?


guest452
Comment posted August 28, 2009 @ 11:48 pm

BLACK PANTHERS!!!! EVERY INSANE SCARED REPUBLITHUGS ANSWER TO EVERYTHING. BUSH ALMOST BOUGHT DOWN THE COUNTRY STEALING MONEY PHONEY WARS INSANE PEOPLE IN JOBS THEY WEREN'T QUALIFIED FOR. AND YOU WORRY ABOUT SOMEONE TRYING TO PUT HUMPTY DUMTY TOGETHER AGAIN. PRIVATE CHENEY BLACKWATER ARMIES ARE MORE YOUR SPEED. MOST SICK TWISTED THUGS LOVE THIS


SickofClintonBashers
Comment posted August 28, 2009 @ 11:50 pm

Do you have any proof of this or are you just spouting nonsense you claim as fact? If you have proof, post a link. Otherwise, shut it.


bgcarb
Comment posted August 28, 2009 @ 11:58 pm

What a racist buffoon. I think we need to call these people out for what they are, racists. We need to keep repeating it and repeating it, just like the birthers keep repeating their lies. Should we vote on whom we want to question regarding their birthplace? I like Bill Mahar's response, we’ll show you his birth certificate when you show us Palin’s high school diploma.


wokoye
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 12:07 am

Rep. Trent Franks, you are in idiot. You are not fit to be a congress man. It would seem that a man in position by now should know that if the current president is not a citizen it would have been exposed.


Fairvoice
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 12:14 am

Dear Americans, as a long time resident of Arizona, I want to apologize for the nutcases we continuously elect to office. They're not paid that well, and since a large part of Arizona is quite empty, and not connected to the outside world, a lot of these folks are still educated with mail order books from the Sears Catalog, and learn to speak and think at a fairly late stage in life. Maybe, sometime in the near future, when people with real fortitude are elected to office and the political education in Arizona will no longer consist of scratchy old John Wayne Movies, will we present some smarter creatures.


SusanMG
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 12:16 am

I love the Clintons…I wasn't bashing them, just that they have a tremendous group of people around them, and if there were something to be found concerning citizenship, they are the folks who would have found it…that's all. It was a compliment, geez. Touchy much?


stephenperry
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 12:28 am

Hear, hear.

I was watching Hardball about a month ago and Pat Buchanan was whining about how he thinks then-Judge, now-Justice Sotomayor isn't smart (she is). Buchanan was going on about wanting to see her LSAT scores.

Eugene Robinson of the Washington Post reminded Buchanan that he'd been “pushing Sarah Palin for President! Where are HER LSAT scores?”

I just about died laughing. Eugene was pretty worked up. I like his reporting and his take on things is usually spot-on.

Birthers are racist. No two ways about it. I've been writing that since I started posting here a month ago.


stephenperry
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 12:29 am

You forgot to mention ACORN. I'm pretty sure ACORN had a second shooter behind the grassy knoll, and ACORN faked the moon landings. You can see a lazy, shiftless black guy loafing just inside of camera range if you aren't distracted by the rippling flag.


stephenperry
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 12:31 am

I'm not sure that SickofClintonBashers did all that well in “reading comprehension.” You hadn't written anything to deserve that out-of-nowhere response.


tootiredoftheright
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 12:33 am

It's called a birth certificate as verified by numerous background checks done when Obama was a Senator when he went to college and when he was running for office. He has a security level above Top Secret. Do you honestly think the Secret Service, Department of the Treasury, the dozens of intelligence agencies we have in those country known to the public at large such as the CIA, FBI, and others even more secret such as the NSA, DIA wouldn't have run background checks on him?

The Republican gov of Hawaii confirmed he was born there, as did the state department of health there, there are newspaper announcements put out by the Department of Health at the time he was born, Obama has had US passports issued to him at various points in his life especially when he went to Indonesia, and Pakinstan (which travel was never banned for US citizens) which require a valid Birth Certificate to get. A birth certificate when you present it is then verified with the state or gov't agency if you were born outside the US to a US resident who confirms it is real.


sam252
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 12:33 am

Do it Biatch!


sedonakaren
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 12:33 am

Darn! I sure wish you had launched the lawsuit, spent a lot of your own money, and made an ass of yourself. Can't you Conservatives get it through your thick skulls that this country does not BELONG to just you? I know you got that impression over the last 8 year with Bush riding ripshod over everything and everyone. He lied, he spied, he cheated, he sneaked, and overall pretty much played “cowboy” for the 8 years he was in office. Since there was “funny business” concerning the votes each of the two times he was “elected,” I can understand why you might have thought BUSH was not a valid President. HOWEVER, President Obama was elected by an overwhelming majority of Democrats, Independents and yes, even REPUBLICANS. No one liked your candidate (McCain) and PALIN was as JOKE! Why don't you all give up on trying to spread lies about this president and concentrate on getting YOUR OWN ACT together! You have NO LEADER (unless it's Rush Limbaugh) or those college dropouts, Glen Beck and Sean Hannity!


Val
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 12:34 am

raotflmbo. hysterical.

apology noted Fairvoice


stephenperry
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 12:34 am

Well, have you noticed that he's BLACK? Pretty scary, huh?

No?

Well, then, you're an Obot kool-aid drinker. Wake up, people! The Devil can quote scripture to his ends, and Obama is good at public speaking. Do I have to put EVERYTHING together for you people? Anti-Christ. Mark my words.

Has the whole world gone libtard-insane?

(Seriously, how in the world can anyone be “terrified” of President Obama? He's not exactly the hulking linebacker type. Nor is he a gun-toting maniac. He didn't mug for the camera while holding an absurdly big knife, like Gov. Schwarzenegger did. What's to be afraid of? A President who takes his wife for dates in public? Ack! Run for the hills!)


tootiredoftheright
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 12:35 am

“. They're not paid that well, and since a large part of Arizona is quite empty”

Well you do have several hundred undiscovered aircraft wrecks dating back fourty years with a number being in the last five years since a lot of AZ flyers don't submit flight planes so it's not exactly empty.


tootiredoftheright
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 12:36 am

Add in the McCain camp checked out the rumours too and the gov of Hawaii was a McCain supporter who stated Obama was born in Hawaii as well as the state department of Health confirmed he was born there.


Val
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 12:36 am

lol I am going to choose to believe you were being sarcastic.


stephenperry
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 12:36 am

WB Florida. Where the hell have you been? I thought you went off to sell Obama-as-Joker t-shirts at town halls.

Have you seen Tuci78? We're concerned that he may have forgotten where he lives. If you see an angry-looking withered old faux-libertarian who won't leave Cracker Barrel until closing time, tell him he can sleep in a doorway somewhat near my neighborhood, as a gesture of my concern.


smilodon1
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 12:36 am

Too bad he doesn't have anything real to work on. He needs to get a life and work for a living.


sedonakaren
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 12:37 am

I am from Arizona, and you, along with your buddies John McCain and Jon Kyle are all an embarrassment to our beautiful state! You're all living in either the dark ages or lala land; I haven't yet made up my mind which one.

Why don't you just DO YOUR JOB instead of causing a ruckus in Washington? All you Republicans can do is say NO, tell wild lies, and criticize. When this country needs you so much, you are a disgrace to us all.


stephenperry
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 12:37 am

Florida is a master craftsman. Just click on the icon to the left of his name and read his posts. It's not hard to figure out what he's up to.


janeycat57
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 12:39 am

do people like this not know that if there was anything to this at all Hillary Clinton would have found it loooooong before Barack Obama even anounced he was going to run for president…….get a life Trent Franks……


Roland P.
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 12:40 am

OH, the hood is there alright. . . . virtual but, there. That goes hand-in-hand with the old saying:

Some people wear “sheets” over their suits. Others wear “suits” over their sheets.


stephenperry
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 12:41 am

I think that's a very charitable read of Congressman Franks' activities.

My own read is that he is cynically trying to walk a fine line.

I don't think he ever had any intention of filing a suit. He just wants to say so, now, as a way of building his anti-Obama fan base.

He wants the support of birthers without being a birther. He wants to be able to reassure the birthers that they aren't nuts, but he still wants a seat at the non-idiot table, and to be taken seriously by his peers.

I'm not buying what he's selling. And I believe this attempt to deceive the voters and get away with it will end up coming back to bite him when he has to run against a Democratic opponent when we have a health care bill and a recovering economy, as we will in time for the 2010 elections.


nualakavanagh
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 12:49 am

WHAT A MORAN. JUST THE KIND OF REPRESENTATION THE REPUBLICAN'S WOULD LOVE TO HAVE IN THE GOVERNMENT. I HOPE IT IS YOUR DOWNFALL, BUT I DOUBT IT. THERE IS ONE REASON AND ONE REASON ONLY THAT ANYONE WOULD FILE A LAWSUIT AND THAT IS THAT THEY HAVE BEEN LIVING UNDER A “ROCK OF RAGE” IN THE MONTH'S SINCE THIS BIRTH ANNOUNCEMENT WAS PUBLISHED.


nualakavanagh
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 12:50 am

That was funny. I needed a laugh.


nualakavanagh
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 12:54 am

The last ten reply's have been a hoot. I couldn't compete with any of them. My sentiments.


vwcat
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 1:05 am

What a joke this guy is. I honestly do not understand how so many fall for the lies and nonsense of republicans time and time again. For 30 years now. You'd think they would have learned after being burned by the repubs but, people always fall for such obvious garbage like what this guy is peddling.
One thing, this guy does not say why he is so terrified of a man that everyone agrees is decent and polite and very nice.


Roland P.
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 1:06 am

Great narrative, SusanMG. However, when you cut to the “nitty” “gritty,” reduce all this inflammatory rhetoric by many of these “Rethuglicans” to its lowest common denominator, what you get is “GUILT” and “FEAR.” They are guilty to the bone of perpetuating endless Racism, discrimination and living the life of the rich & “infamous.” Now that the people have elected a Black man as president, they are totally fearful of having done to them, what they have been doing to us for centuries.

Truthfully, I (we) have better things to do than to try and seek “retribution.” For their information, if every American was accorded an equal chance to make a contribution and “pay his fair share,” we would have an awesome country, regardless as to what color the president was.


thespecter
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 1:14 am

Q: What's the difference between UFOs and a Birther with a college degree?
A: UFOs have been spotted.

Q: How do you hide something from a Birther?
A: Put it in a textbook.


thespecter
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 1:17 am

Q: How do you start a Birther parade?
A: Roll a few cans of Skoal down the street.

Q: What did the Birther girl say while having sex?
A: Get off me Dad, you’re crushing my smokes


Steve X
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 1:21 am

In this ever-changing world that we live in, it's good to see that birfers will always be the stupidest ones in the room. Jesus, the GOP becomes more embarrassing every day. When Michael Medved and Michelle Malikn become the voices of reason in your party, you have officially jumped the shark.


Anonymous
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 6:27 am

Hey, thanks. I knew there had to be more to it.


SusanMG
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 1:37 am

Too bad the McCain camp waited until AFTER Palin accepted to check her out!


stephenperry
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 1:56 am

Eh, I'm pretty sure McCain “checked her out” when he took her to the creek on his Sedona ranch for a 10-minute “private meeting.”

I don't want to know what he saw, but I'm pretty sure that what he saw convinced him to accept her as his VP choice, even though he didn't know anything about her beyond her measurements.


rzoe
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 2:37 am

Tell me, was this idiot born in this country? Let's see some proof of that. Is it because Barak Obama is black that he's “terrified”? Has he checked John McCain's birth certificate? This is complete insanity.


Sivan
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 2:43 am

Republicans are showing their true colors. I am a conservative who has found a new home. I cannot see myself voting for these types of Republicans again.


Steve X
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 2:44 am

Hey, don't feel too bad. I'm from Georgia, and ever since the day Newt Gingrich was unleashed on the world, I've been apologizing to pretty much every liberal that I've met for all the damage that he's caused. After a while you get used to it.


America4Ever
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 2:47 am

The republican party – the Ku Klux Klan without the integritry.


ald
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 3:30 am

This should spell the end of the Republican party, I can not imagine a populace not thinking that these guys are absolute nuts, how can they possibly reelect these clowns.


TJ
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 3:44 am

Rep Franks is terribly uninformed and terrifies himself over a non issue. This questionable birth issue was debunked by several credible sources during the presidential campaign. He is 8 months and more behind the times.

I am very sorry for all of these elected officials who have allowed themselves to become so demoralized and so shallow that they are devoid of ability and desire to discuss issues on behalf of the government's business. Their will be no legacy when they complete their service unless that legacy is a charge of complicity in a crime of hate or incitement to violence.

Do their constituents not have any concerns, any needs, any important business before them? I almost wish he had filed his lawsuit to make national news and have the courts throw him out just as threw out the last one.


franksisamoron
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 3:47 am

He's my representative, I'm sorry to say. When you represent Sun City, you can say just about anything and get away with it. We had a board of supervisor in the county that said rather than use animals as test subjects, we should use gays…..and he was elected over and over again as will be this moron.


franksisamoron
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 3:51 am

yes, but we did elect Bruce Babbit, Mo Udall, and Janet Napalitano. Stewart Udall was from here also. Makes you miss Barry Goldwater for his common sence when you compare him to the wingnuts we have now as Republican representatives.


franksisamoron
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 3:54 am

don't feel bad. You could be from South Carolina…..


jamie461
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 3:54 am

Nimrod.


bluecollarjane
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 3:57 am

“He only saw 1961 newspaper reports of Obama’s birth “about three days before we were going to launch a lawsuit.”
____________________________

Maybe Rep. Franks should ask former Sen. Ted Stevens to help him figure out how to use the series of tubes that make up the internet. Perhaps if he works hard enough he'll be able to master useage of The Google.


huntingnarcissists
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 4:09 am

Mainstream “Media” not wanting the truth (either way) to come out? Imagine the slam on the RedDogs if they lost in court… Why not push them forward and let the spectacle turn against them? That’s a proper political crucsafction, no? But the self proclaimed third wing of or “checks and balances” of power, the media, not investigating the rumors? This doesn't strike you as odd? Willing to sue Palin over anything (how many lawsuits against her?) and a no-go on the biggest story of the year “Repub-Idiots-Loose”.. Or? If you're not thinking critical.. Now that's scary.

How about the lawsuit that will be brought against Obama. A class action from “We the People” for over $700B: August 14, 2009 Montana Town Hall Obama states that “two thirds from waste and inefficiency” is where he is going to get the 2/3rds to cover the remainder that we kick in to cover the whole of Health Care. Is anyone actually thinking out here or will we sue to wake you up? TWO THIRDS (Or 66.6% interesting number)

1. 231,000,000 Americans that should have right now free health care.
2. If the number is high, take it down by 50%. 115,500,000 Americans should have FREE HEALTH CARE TODAY.
3. Every poor and lower middle class US Citizen now struggling for HC should be covered.
4. Each sad story rolled in front of the camera and every single letter they have read should already be covered.
5. Ted Kennedy gave a great speech in the 80-90's stating that our level of care was bar none in the world… then proceeded to bilk the American tax payer into over taxation and didn’t even clean it up to help the sick…

EVERY DEATH due to health care issue is on our Government NOW. Arrest them all and try them for treason and murder.


claritymuchneedednow
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 4:23 am

As Americans we have tor raise the bar on finding out who our reps are before electing them. Too many of the people packing a government paycheck and healthcare benefits are too simple minded and lack critical thinking skills. Obama is a US citizen. Why are we still discussing this?
The GOP's movement to stop progress in the US while Obama is in power:
1. GOPers who proliferates lies at townhall mtgs.
2. Then there are the Birther
3. Fox News– what more needs to be said
4. Michael Steel the African American (“we aren't racist”) the anti-Obama
5. 6. and 7.Ann Coulter, Michelle Buchanan, Rush…


psnyder
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 4:29 am

Wow. There really ought to be some sort of intellectual capacity requirement to run for Congress. Hell, at least a CAT scan or MRI, just to demonstrate minimal neuronal activity. On the other hand, our representatives are supposed to be representative, so maybe that would be setting the bar too damned high.


B.
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 4:32 am

He supported a bill to end frivolous lawsuits, but was going to file a junk lawsuit based on internet smears?


revruc1
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 5:00 am

You may want to go back and check Arnold Schwarznegger. I think he may be running for President in 8 years.


revruc1
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 5:04 am

You are correct. Arnold Schwarznegger still cannot pronounce ka le forn ya. He suppose to be running for President in 8 years.


Micheal
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 5:11 am

claritymuchneedednow said:

“As Americans we have tor raise the bar on finding out who our reps are before electing them”.

I absolutely agree. Let's start with Obama and find out where he was born.


RCWW
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 5:46 am

I've been hearing that a lot lately. —about our current national ?leadership?


Florida Christian
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 5:47 am

YOU socialist democrats are stoopid!

Barry was born in Tanzaneia in 1984 and is not even old enough to be president! I have proof in the form of an email that I got from my pastor!

His so called hawaiaan certificate was planted by communist surfers that bribed a lady at the department of records.

Get a clue Morans!


wayoutwest
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 5:48 am

The real war is not between the left and the right, it is between the average American and the Ruling Class.
The partisan tribal drumbeating of the right is due to a mental phenomenon called motivated reasoning. Facts do not matter only winning or at least disrupting progress initiated by the Other.
These people aren't just wingnuts they are dangerous wingnuts. They are willing to destroy the country just to prove their backward chain of reasoning.
Reasonable Americans are beginning to stand up and counter this anti-democratic behavior. We need to continue to show that most Americans don't believe this nonsense.
They Lost.
We Won.
Get used to it!


stephenperry
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 6:23 am

WB Pete.


stephenperry
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 6:24 am

“You dumocrats just don't get it.”

I want a t-shirt that says that. Are you selling any?


stephenperry
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 6:25 am

Honolulu. We've been over this already. Where've you been?


patera
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 6:44 am

All I have to say: “Ye SHALL KNOW the Truth, and the Truth SHALL SET Ye FREE.”


calbearinillinois
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 7:01 am

Jon Stewart said it best: Losing is SUPPOSED to taste like a sh** taco! Get used to it. But the right refuses to play by the rules – at least to date. Not sure if their screaming will work – it beat the heck out of the far left from 1980-2008 (Clinton and the Third Way don't count) to beat their heads on the wall and shouting and screaming. But I'm certain they could stem the bleeding from their party a lot easier by not endorsing the furthest fringe and using the Karl Rove playbook.


calbearinillinois
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 7:08 am

Wonkette fan, are we? I assume from the moran comment.

Tanganyika/Tanzania and 84 ain't nearly original enough. I'm going with Leicester, England in 1961, as the secret double bastard grandson of Winston Churchill (how else to explain his Luciferian silver tongue) and some random dark skinned day laborer. MI-6 then dropped him in Hawaii with their sleeper cell of Kansas born and bred freaks the Dunstons to give him an American cover to eventually fulfil the dream of Anglo-American loyalty forever. Since a Kennedy had just been elected in the US, the fear was the IRA and Papists worldwide would have a sympathetic voice that could only be counteracted by a true English Lion. Little did they know Maggie and Ronnie would consummate their love in such a rich, bizarre alliance in the 80s.


calbearinillinois
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 7:10 am

That or mandatory drug use. That way we could just pass it all off when Bachmann, et al say stupid stuff.


calbearinillinois
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 7:11 am

Shh. Don't let the truth get in the way of a fun story.


Melangell
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 7:18 am

My god, who really cares what this Fox News watching, Glenn Beck worshipping idiot thinks? President Obama has the same exact birth certificate from Hawaii that I do. It was enough proof for the U.S. Army to allow me to become an officer (U.S. citizens only). Does any rational human think that the FBI/Secret Service/Pentagon would allow a person who does not meet the legal qualifications to be the president? Hell, if hell would have frozen over and Sarah Palin were to assume the office, they would allow it even though she is as mentally and intellectually qualified as a hedgehog. To what lengths will the Repugs lower themselves to in order to gain back power? We've seen the depths and lies and illegal activities they will go to keep it.


deminjersey
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 7:29 am

Even the Republican governor of Hawaii has verified the records and admitted that Obama was born in Hawaii. Now you just look like a racist.


MAINEGURU
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 8:06 am

How much more seperation can you get from Barrack Obama than to call himm a foreigner. It's actually hillarious. The man holds the most sacred position in the world and this bozo is questioning his citizenship! It's a little late for that don't ya think! What a dope!


guylombardo
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 8:12 am

“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, THE TRUTH IS THE GREATEST ENEMY OF THE STATE.” — Joseph Goebbels, German Minister of Propaganda, 1933-1945


notyouraveragebear
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 9:09 am

Trent Franks is the same congressman who earlier this year on Faux News said that Harry Reid's train line was supposed to go from Disneyland to the Moonlite Bunny Ranch brothel in Carson City http://thinkprogress.org/2009/03/02/franks-lie-…. This is all you need to know about this elected official and the people who elected him.


maggiemai
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 9:21 am

more virulent republican crap. do they ever stop? do they even know how harmful their crap is not just to the American mind and psyche but to the rest of the civilized world that reads this crap and wonders, as I do, who elects these idiots in America??? What kind of people live over in America that have such a low IQ as to elect a person like Trent Franks to any office at all, ever!


Xcopper6
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 9:38 am

Or you could be from Tn. This being a state who's voters shot theirselves in the foot when they voted against Gore when he ran. I have often asked people did they not think that electing Gore would have helped the state? Idiots.


grf67
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 10:29 am

Such a lawsuit in the face of all of the evidence would have been Franks legacy of shame for the rest of his life. He says that he has not seen President Obama's birth certificate. Does this mean that he has seen both bushs' birth certificates? Or is his outrage just for black people? He should have gone forwartd with the suit; then he could be looking for a different job. Jerk!


rongary
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 10:55 am

I am eager to see this!
My checkbook is locked and loaded.
How much spaghetti would it take?


rongary
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 10:59 am

beck is out in orbit, these thoughts are more distructive.
I want proof of yoor IQ, and a complte health plan certifying that your are without mental defect.
If you have a mental defect, we will take care of you. No regard for pre=exixting conditiones etc


runbabyrun2009
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 11:15 am

Here comes the robes and burning crosses.

And these people say they are Christians.

It really amazing how deep this racism goes.


lvwilkerson
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 11:22 am

That was just a way for him to draw attentionn to himself. MSNBC has been showing the birth announcements from two different papers for months now.

Maybe he should start paying attention to that network.

People need to stop voting for these repubs that show their ignorance and non-sensitivity.


davide58
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 11:23 am

I left the Republican partyin 1980 when I felt it was becoming the party of the lunatic fringe. This guy just proves me right once again.


rongary
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 11:27 am

Are you a real idiot or just the run of the mill idiot?


onewolff
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 11:52 am

With this type of person in congress and the millions and millions of viewers on a certain cable network it's no wonder we are where we are. When did Americans go from an optimistic people with a “Yes we can” attitude to a scared group of hate and fear mongers?


jimmccoy
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 12:45 pm

Boy I can tell you are a Trailer Trash Republican…First of all Morons is the correct spelling instead of Morans….Next, Capitalize Hawaiian because it is a proper name. Next, get your life straightened out because I really think you are heading for the LOONEY BIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1


qquest
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 1:19 pm

I am sorry to say I live in Az and have to tolerate politicians like Franks all the time.
He is totally playing to his base and will say anything – the more ridiculous the better. He has done nothing good for the people he represents or for the state.
I wish he would have filed the lawsuit so the rest of the country can see what kind of far right people Arizonans have to put up with. Fortunately I do not live in the district he represents.
I'm still waiting for him to say or do something that implies he is a politician representing the people of this state. We are not all right wing nut cases like him.


JoeC
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 1:19 pm

As an Obama supporter, I'm pleased to note that Rep. Franks was/is “terrified of this guy”. But I wonder just how many of our former presidents came with 'provenance' of their citizenship and birth? I doubt that many of us can provide enough proof of our ancestry to satisfiy the 'birthers' of this country. Is Rep. Franks ready to provide dna evidence? He may have been planted at birth as a backlash troublemaker for all I can tell!! Pish! Pish!


falstaffsmind
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 1:23 pm

The worse part of this story is he's lying. He knew full-well about Obama's bona fides, but he also knows he can score points with the vast uninformed if he pretends he was going to launch this suit. McCain is from his state, all he needed to do was call the campaign and ask if they researched it.


JoeC
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 1:40 pm

I've changed my mind about Rep. Franks' inane remarks after reading more of the comments it's engendered. If stupidity like that can generate so many opinions, I can tolerate him. Vote for him? Hell no!! Tolerate!! Such a wild compenduem as I've just read deserves it's own blog site. I've not laughted so hard since listening to Orrin Harch & John Culver eulogize Edward Kennedy last night. Keep up the retoric folks! I love it!!


arnoldedwards
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 1:45 pm

Is it this hard to accept an African-American man as president? He's been equated with Hitler and Nazism, but has any of these “intelligent” people read about Hitler's views on race? And if Obama is like Hitler, where is all his support from the neo-nazis? The debates that are going on in this country are ridiculous. If there is anything wrong with Obama it's his steadfast attempt at bi-partisanship. IT AIN'T HAPPENING and IT AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN!!! Read what the Republican senators and congressmen and women are saying.


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E_Joyce
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 2:27 pm

You never saw the evidence because you refuse to look at it. Just like you never read the Health Reform package but will be voting no, putting your Republican party before the constituents you represent. But I am sure that making this “confession” will give you cool points among the birthers and the fringe element of your party.


mycookie100
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 2:44 pm

In order for Obama to raise a penny for his presidential bid he had to have a through background investigation by the FBI, CIA and Dept of Justice, so they were all wrong to this guy.
He would have done a better job than these other agencies? This is a corrupt thug, call him and tell him all these agencies had to CERTIFY THE PRESIDENT, BUT THEY'RE ALL WRONG, AND HE'S NOT! Right, he's simply a racist.


johnbolog
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 3:14 pm

Is this guy a hair lip?


kamenwati
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 3:14 pm

You need to sue somebody to find your upper lip.


rob3rt1000
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 3:29 pm

Alaska should have demanded to see Sarah Palin's high school diploma.


Sunny Cal
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 3:38 pm

I just don't understand how our country became so ignorant. Well, actually according to my theory it was a result of the the “Reagan Revolution.” We have ignorant people doing the bidding of big business as if their issues represented the interests of the “common people.” As a “political junkie” I am more depressed and frustrated with the state of the union that I was under Bush yet my guy won the presidency. Imagine that!


Anonymous
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 8:43 pm

THANK you. I think a dozen people have misspelled that one.


Anonymous
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 8:47 pm

Relax, jim. Florida is being sarcastic. It’s all an act. He’s just an undercover agent.


Anonymous
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 8:51 pm

Oh, I was hoping to rile him up and make him tell me something about how Obama was born in the polar ice cap and put into Hawai’ian schools by Israel’s Mossad as part of a plot to steal mayonnaise and country music from white people.

But it’s just like a Cal grad to try to ruin a Trojan’s fun. Sort of how we ruined your fun on a rainy Saturday evening in Berkeley last November. I sat there, envying the people who, unlike me, were not too proud to buy a trash bag “raincoat” for 2 dollars from the guy selling them. I had to buy one for my date though. She was a prissy Stanford grad student. I’m glad she got wet. Wait that came out wrong.


captainsteve
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 3:52 pm

OBAMA, STOP HIDING. SHOW US THE LONG FORM BIRTH CERTIFICATE!!!


AmericanLadyINAZ
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 4:02 pm

What he and others should do if they want to expose Obama, is go after him for Dual Citizenship. Obama himself, said his dad wasn't a Citizen when he was born. Shhhhh don't tell! According to the Constitution, to be Pres, he would have to be a Natural Born Citizen and that means that both parents have to be Citizens. I guess his mom couldn't confer her citizenship because of her age or something … you'd have to read it. So, let them keep harping about his BC … they might get somewhere if they looked into the Dual Citizenship closer


True AMerican
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 4:04 pm

Socialists normally hide the origin of their birth.


qblogger
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 4:05 pm

Why are RACIST given so much press? Where is the credibility in journalism that correctly chastises such demagogues? Again, we blog and blog and blog but where is the repudiation and public outrage. Are we still a nation with such intrenched hatred and prejudice that all devices are allowed to justify this evil.

Not only is it in the RNC, GOP, Right-wing radio and the so called conservatives; it now infects and rots the very message of the Church. So called Christian activist come in the guise of clergy, but spew so much venom and discord. When the Church becomes a tool to promote Condemnation rather than Redemption; we are truly lost. It is now that we stand at the brink of destruction by our own hands. It is now that we decide the road we shall take that will decide our tomorrow.

I feel that our end is but a stones throw away; lest the voices of reason stand up and speak out against false-hoods. I see the legitimacy in the Progressive cause, who have proven the truth thought it be drowned out. For the Conservatives, there is some efforts but the truth bearers mostly remain silent fearing repudiation. They are the ones who must find the courage and take back the mantle of their party and stop the revile. More so than just their party's sake, but for the good of the country. Lest their be a Party of Lincoln no more.


jbjd
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 4:13 pm

Why is determining whether Barack Obama is a NBC a matter of such speculation? Surely, he either is or, not. Did Nancy Pelosi determine his eligibility status, before Certifying to state elections officials he Constitutionally qualified to be POTUS, as she was required to do in certain states before elections officials in these states would put his name on the general election ballot? That 'fact' should not be so hard to ascertain. An AG from anyone of those states could just ask her. http://jbjd.wordpress.com


ethrop
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 4:13 pm

that would be a sight to behold…
but he does have a hare lip..


senevada
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 4:13 pm

and the irrational the birther movement continues to expose the racists among us….


cheryl2
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 4:19 pm

Natural born means that he was physically born within the United States, not that both parents are citizens.


YMEB4
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 4:24 pm

Only in America will a black man ALWAYS be set to such scrutiny. No president in history has been under attack for such foolishness. This because of racial tensions…guns at speaking engagements!?!?. This is ridiculous and a true reflection of the camouflage that permeates in America, my homeland. The media is no longer NEWS it is truly sensationalism designed to stir hatred and divisiveness in a country that enters strange lands to perpetuate fairness and equality.


kemah
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 4:32 pm

Just think of the Civil War, the poor whites were doing the dying for the cause while the rich plantation owners were profiting from the war by growing cotton and tobacco to smuggle to England in return the smugglers bought back luxury goods for the plantation owners to have.

They did not want to bring back weapons because the confederacy paid in confederate dollars and who the hell wants that. The plantation owners told the poor whites that they would take care of their families, by feeding them, But the plantation owners only planted cotton and tobacco because of the profits, Corn and wheat was paid in confederate dollars,

It still happens today, poor whites serving the interests of todays plantation owners, large corporations.

Look it up in your history. Just the facts.


AmericanLadyINAZ
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 4:36 pm

Its not so much his origin of birth of NBC … it's his dual citizenship. In nosying about since typing that, I found this:
Q. Can a US President have dual Citizenship?

Answer #1 No.

The Constitution contains the term “natural born” for a US president. This term was used to prevent anyone with the possibility of having a foreign allegiance from becoming commander-in-chief of US forces, for obvious reasons (super fifth column, anyone?) A person with dual citizenship owes allegiance to both the US and the foreign government. They are required to obey the laws of both countries, which of course for a sitting US President would be disastrous to the US nation.

The term “natural born” is used to mean a singular allegiance to one and only one nation. Dual citizenship contradicts this.


dieselis
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 4:38 pm

So whats next proof Obama is the antichrist. I know this is plying the race card but, thats what we black guys do. So here it goes. A Black President never has any commander and chief been so srutinized in all of American history. Air Force 1 cost to much, new Marine 1's aren't necessary, he's not a US. citizen, its OK to threaten his life, tote guns at rallies he is appearing, call him a secret muslim, blatantly change the context of his speeches to project him as unamerican and have cast of supposidly news people that report all the bad none of the good and much of it are just outright lies and fabrications. Its the people that watch this stuff thinking its real news that are going to be hurt the most. Our Country's in utter termoil we need everyone onboard to fix it. There are those content if not elated to see our Country torn apart and fighting another civil war in which the death toll will make the first look like childs play. Stop the madness in the name of JESUS!!!


kemah
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 4:41 pm

Home schooling, teaching creationists theory, and no support for public schools. Charter schools are also dumbing down the students. Charter schools only are interested in profits and could care less of teaching.

This is what the repugs push because the dumber you are the likely you will vote repugs.


AmericanLadyINAZ
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 4:45 pm

none of this really matters tho … my main concern is where he is taking our Country. it doesn't matter that he has paid 1.6 Million dollars to keep all of his Records sealed and on his first day in Office, signed that into law. Just makes others wonder … why is he so secretive about his past? Why does he have so many Czars? Why does he want an army of his own? Why does he want to force vaccinations onto Americans? Does anyone else want to know the Answers or do you worry about him and his agendas? I'm NOT a Republican so don't think I'm some right wing birther … I just can't understand why he doing the things he is doing?


debbie1952
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 4:49 pm

If the Republicans in Congress spent half as much effort on actually doing something for the good of the country as they do sliming the Democrats and President Obama, they might be abel to gather a base of more than the wingnuts they have now. If they spent as much time writing legislation and working with the Democrats as they do obstructing the President's agenda, they could probably actually accomplish something. I'm sick to death of lies, gossip, spin and distortions coming on a daily basis from the Republicans. Every word from their mouths is a hypocritical lie or rumor or slandor. They don't have one decent idea between them. That leaves quite a few empty heads walking around Dthat there isn't one thing that they will do to make the lives of their constituents a little bit better and give the voters a reason to vote for them again; Why would anyone vote consistently for somebody who could care so little about the voters that they would tell lies and scare you out of selfishness because they lost an election. They are scaring their constituents and lying and smearing our President and whipping up the fringe into a dangerous blood red fury. They are supposed to be responsible leaders who were sent to DC to do the work of the people of this country. They are aslo supposed to be working for all the people of their districts and states, not just the republicans. Just like the President is the president of every citizen, not just those who voted for him. He has to consider every American in each of his decisions. Republicans and some Democrats need to remember that they are doing the work for all the people not just those who voted for them.


AmericanLadyINAZ
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 4:51 pm

I know many think this is racist bias against Obama … I had / have friends who are black and it's not his skin color. It's where I see him taking our country. I don't think we need Govt involved in any more of our lives. Why cant we just fix the PARTS of our current health care plan that are broken? Like the Fraud. LOTS of Congressman/Senators have admitted that there is TRULY only about 10 million ( cuz they are not counting the illegals / students who don't want healthcare / Seniors who don't cuz they pay privately) who are in TRUE need of health care
have you read the news where he will soon have complete control of the internet, how he is talking of using his own personal army to control Americans, put them in interment camps?

Does our Country sound FREE to you anymore??? the constitution guarantees us freedoms, freedoms he is taking away. the constitution provided the means for all we needed and every president since, has slowly removed rights. the IRS was supposed to only be a temporary fix back in 1913 … its NOT only Obama … its ALL the presidents/ governments who have slowly trashed the Constitution. I don't call myself anything but a Constitutionalist. Rep/Dem/libs are out of touch


AmericanLadyINAZ
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 4:52 pm

I care more about where he is taking our Country


AmericanLadyINAZ
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 4:56 pm

We are slowly becoming a Socialized Country under this Administration …. Read where he wants total control of the Internet, a bill that is soon to be passed.
Read about how anyone who grows a garden will have to keep *records* of who they give food to AND … you would have to pay a FEE of $500 to even grow a garden
Our Country is what it is ( was ) because of Capitolism … that will be NO LONGER if Cap and Trade gets passed
Fix the part of Health Care that is broken … there are only 10 Million who are TRULY in need of Health Care, Senators and Congressman are saying this in town hall mtgs. I've been to them
America is in DANGER …. Please stop reading what the Repubs are saying … Do your own Research and find the TRUTH


Sunny Cal
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 4:59 pm

Your ignorance is evident in your statements which are right out of the right wing republican nutjob scripts. You talk about secretive what about all of the constitutional abuses of the Bush administration. Vaccines? Ask Donald Rumsfeld why they are being pushed on us by threat of fear since his business connections help him benefit from that. Never in the history of the US have we had such corruption, cronyism, blatant abuses of power, constitutional violations as we have under Bush.

We spend billions on an unnecessary wary, we were lied to in order to get support for it and we have many soldiers dead and maimed as a result of the lies of Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and others. We can spend billions for this wasted war effort but not spend a fraction of that money to take care of us here at home!! The quality of our schools, roads, services, police, fire department and other vital services has diminished greatly yet we can afford to pay for this war. What about profiteering with no bid contracts and companies like Blackwater? Where's the conservative outrage against loss of liberties like wiretapping?

All this nonsensical talk about socialism. How many of the ignorant people who say “hell no to government healthcare” even know that that's who pays for their medicare? Do they even know what the definition of socialism is? Do they want to get rid of all government services since they say they are all so bad? Who will they call if someone breaks into their house? How about if their house is on fire? Or if we are attacked in war? Is government police, fire departments and the military so bad?

If government healthcare is so bad then why do all of these corrupt senators and congressman have it? Is the healthcare we give to the veterans and soldiers inferior? If so then why aren't they supporting the troups? The fact is that the VA does a decent job of providing care. I will listen to the corrupt politicians when they come down of their high horse and live like the rest of us. They get all kinds of special benefits from government yet run around and kiss ass to the ignorant masses and people like Beck, Limbaugh, Hannity and live in total hypocrisy.


Name
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 5:00 pm

Evidently, he isn't very smart. The newpaper article of Obama's birth is posted on the internet by Snopes.
If he was truely trying to investigate the authenticity of Obama's birth, wouldn't the newspaper archives be a logical place to start. Apparently, he is not willing to accept the birth certificate.


AmericanLadyINAZ
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 5:04 pm

There won't be a Congress soon … Obama's Czars will be taking their places. These Czars weren't voted on by the American People and report only to the President.
Where will we be ( Rep, Dems, Libs, alike ) when we don't have a Representative of our State to do what us Consituents need them to do?
Our Founding Fathers specifically wrote the Constitution in a way to deny such absolute power to emanate from one person. That was why they required that no principal officers could exercise any power unless the U.S. Senate decided to confirm them. That was also why they specified that even for inferior officers only Congress could create their positions and could still require them to answer to Congress. The Founding Fathers were specifically blocking the type of centralized power that President Obama is currently creating without our consent.
Thankfully, from what I've read, Any person on the receiving end of an order from any of these czars has standing to challenge their constitutionality in court. Any person whose pay is deemed excessive by Kenneth Feinberg, or affected by any other czar, could file a federal suit asserting that the order is an unconstitutional exercise of government power, and have a court both invalidate the order and hold that the position itself doesn’t legally exist. Then everyone could just ignore these czars, because they would simply be private citizens, without the authority to order any of us to tie our shoes.


jakeboquino
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 5:07 pm

Bush had a private army – Blackwater. Bush suspended Habeas Corpus, the 4th amendment, torture laws, and more, and yet that was just fine with the Right. No one was allowed into his rallies with dissenting opinions, several were arrested for wearing anti-Bush t-shirts. Again, the Right was fine with the suspension of 1st Amendment rights. Bush redistributed wealth to 12% of the population, and no complaints from the Right. There are over 30 million uninsured in the U.S. and 18,000 die each year from lack of health care. If you are afraid of losing your rights read the Patriot Act, we lost our rights the day it was signed by every Republican in Congress even tho only 2 bothered to read it. It is almost identical to Germany's Compliance Act of 1939. Do your own research and stop watching Fox.


ericscam22
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 5:10 pm

Republicans really are the scum of the earth, aren't they?


Sunny Cal
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 5:11 pm

oh my god lady you are scary! Your lack of facts is only surpassed by your ignorance. You are obviously copying from some right wing talking head and are not able to think independently. Get a life and learn the facts before you spout off nonsense. Only Nixon and Bush thought that “if the president does it then it's not illegal” wait I think you have to add Cheney, Yoo and a few others to the previous statement. Either way, your scary.


Sunny Cal
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 5:15 pm

Yes!! If our healthcare system (what system) was so good then why does the US have one of the highest infant mortality rates? I've lived in Sweden and Holland and the government healthcare worked just great. It is NOTHING like all of the ignorant talking heads say it is. I bet all of these people including the uneducated americans supporting their view have NO experience in these health care systems. They are democracies so if it was so bad they would vote to change it. I lived in Europe for 6 years and they were appalled at our lack of access to health care.


gregpetty
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 5:18 pm

typical republicans famous battle cry,I almost did something


chgoblue
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 5:21 pm

You really need to stop listening to Rush and Faux News. Obama is going to control the Internet? Haven't heard that one yet. Put American's in internment camps?

Is this Michelle Bachmann? Seriously, where are you getting your information?

I bet you weren't screaming this loud when Bush and Cheney wiped the floor with the Constitution the last 8 years so yeah, it is because we have an African-American President. Quit trying to spin it any other way.


nyboy47
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 5:21 pm

someone should be probably investigating your sanity…


midnight
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 5:35 pm

Why are these people so comfortable about revealing themselves as idiots? Just asking.


skybar
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 5:35 pm

Go ahead and file your ridiculous lawsuit, you pathetic loser.


skybar
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 5:37 pm

He was “terrified” of Obama. That tells me all I need to know.
Oh, and he did “all kinds of research.” He did a Google search.


nov42008
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 5:37 pm

“I had / have friends who are black” This is the most telling statement you are a bigot and or racist. You have acquaintances at work, who probably have never ever been invited to your neighborhood, or call you at home. Do they even know your home phone number?


terrylee57
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 5:50 pm

The 'birther' thing is racism by a different name. We are lucky to have Obama as our president!


WTF0829
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 5:55 pm

Constitutionalist? What do people mean by this? At what point should there have been no more amendments?


Anonymous
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 10:57 pm

Heehee. But of course, this wouldn’t be a frivolous lawsuit to the GOP, though, right? This would be a more important lawsuit than say a malpractice one where negligence maimed someone for life.

I would be so proud if that was my representative. I shouldn’t be so sarcastic though, my representative lives at C Street and is a Democrat. ugh


moelarryandjesus
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 6:26 pm

Trent Franks is a special kind of moron.


flowie
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 6:30 pm

What a useless article and a total waste of time.


Anonymous
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 11:33 pm

Or, to close the loop, from Arizona.


spinninghorse
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 6:53 pm

INAZ,Please respond to previous comments asking you if you had any such fears during the 8-years of the BUSH/CHENEY RAPE of our country and its constitution. Then, make plans to succeed to Texass along with all your other right-wing NAZI thugs. Good Riddance!


spinninghorse
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 6:56 pm

INAZ, you are definitely an idiot, no doubt about that. I too care about my country. I care enough about it not to let morons like you hijack our constitution and freedoms. Please, shut up, move to Texas, and drown in your own stupidity.


Anonymous
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 11:59 pm

O/T but you are thinking of November 2007, not 2008 (that was at the Coliseum). Yeah, I was at that crap fest (and damaged my cel phone battery) – but our Joe Roth Memorial unis were pretty sweet, ya gotta admit. And I got a free hat.

Can’t be loose about dates/times these days, or Orly Taitz will sue you claiming you are a Terminator sent from the future to enslave us all.


mmoore
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 6:59 pm

That is not what “natural born” means you idiot.


mmoore
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 7:00 pm

and how many socialists do you know?


mattiinkinen
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 7:20 pm

For a European it is terrible to follow the debate the republicans are having. Where is the respect for the next, where is the reach for common good. The quality of that debate reminds me of the Nazi Germany in 30's. Shame on you.


srdon
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 7:28 pm

hey captain steve aka captain clueless—having been married twice in hawaii to women born there and having a son born in the same hospital as the President, i regret to inform you the form presented by the President is the form you get from the State of Hawaii.

i suggest you just get over it, as this is our President for at least another 3+ years.

start doing something productive like advocating for the health care reform this country (and you) needs.


Anonymous
Comment posted August 30, 2009 @ 12:39 am

He’s back! I can’t believe it. I was so worried. I thought maybe 16 year old 54 year old Randwulf aka Roguewind aka randypuppy aka African-American White half-White married to a white half-white beautiful woman of color got lost in his own lies.

They are confusing lies, what with all the colors involved.


sterlingsilversurfer
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 7:44 pm

What planet do you spend most of your time in?


planetjeffy
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 7:52 pm

I almost did something is like threatening to sue somebody
to look tough or scare them. And this was the party that
ruled the planet the last 8 years. That is scary.


DonJM
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 8:04 pm

Does this guy know Michele Bachman?


Name
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 8:14 pm

So he is bragging about being an idiot? Wonderful.


stephenperry
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 8:17 pm

It actually means that he was a U.S. citizen by birth, instead of via a naturalization process.

Otherwise, how could John McCain, who was born in Panama, have been eligible?

Oh wait, I forgot. He's white. No one cares about his eligibility.


stephenperry
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 8:41 pm

Idaho is also accepting applications for whackjobs. But Texas DOES offer the right-wing fringe a special fringe benefit. AmericanLadyINAZ could be one of those volunteer border patrol vigilantes that assemble at the border on weekends to shotgun Coors Light tall cans and then take turns trying to shoot at the empties.


JimPA
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 8:59 pm

AmericanLadyINAZ – Can you show me where you get your “facts”? I looked on cnn, msnbc, cbs, abc even fox and didn't see any of this? Curious where got President Obama is pushing for home gardeners to keep a record of what they grow and they have to pay $500.


JimPA
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 9:05 pm

In one of your posts below, I asked where you get your “facts”.

Can you show me where you get your “facts”? I looked on cnn, msnbc, cbs, abc even fox and didn't see any of this? Curious where got President Obama is pushing for home gardeners to keep a record of what they grow and they have to pay $500.

Now I know. Emails, right? Do yourself a favor and don't believe everything in emails. Check them out a little.


JimPA
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 9:08 pm

Hey Stephen. You have to check out: http://washingtonindependent.com/56547/trent-fr…


Unliked
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 9:10 pm

Be for real just once is your life. How in the hell is the internet going to be controlled by one person? All of this hype about the Pres' BC is just senseless. If he had not been eligible to run for office it would have stopped at the nomination process you dim-wits. you also need to start thinking for yourself. Does that really make sense charging someone $500 to grow a garden? Your comments are foolish and noninformative. If you want to help stop spreading junk out there for those who are just waiting for 2-3 words to latch onto for more garbage.


Maxwells
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 9:23 pm

The U.S. Constitution requires the president and vice-president to be “natural born citizens”. John McCain is not. He was born in Colon, Panama, outside the Panama Canal Zone protectorate, as a citizen of Panama Federal courts, including SCOTUS, have not ruled whether those born of U.S. parents, but outside the U.S. or its protectorates, are “natural born citizens”.14th amendment doesn't apply because it does not define “natural born”. Act of 1795 distinguishes the broader category of “U.S. citizen” from those who are more specifically “natural born U.S. citizens”. SCOTUS has ruled that Congress cannot interpret constitutional phrases. So, its April 2008 resolution to render McCain eligible (which Obama signed) was knowingly non-binding. U.S.C. Title 8, 1401(c), enacted in 1952, is not retroactive, thus does not apply to McCain. U.S.C 8, 1403 applies only to those born w/i the Panama protectorate.


Greg
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 9:41 pm

The only reason this is an issue is because some white people refused to accept the fact that a Black Man is POTUS! Well, I got some other bad news for those people…The South as you know is will NEVER rise again!! You are all pathetic and what's worse about America….


Roberta Weiner
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 10:10 pm

The fact that there are people who believe that Barack Obama is not a citizen of this country is shocking, but not unexpected. With the election of the first Black man to sit in the White House was sure to get the racists crawling out of the woodwork.

What is truly unacceptable is that many who “fear” Barack Obama, who spread the rumors, who wear the tin-hats, have actually been elected to Congress. That these people use their place in government to spew the hate and bigotry, is the saddest part of this.

When elected officials cease to respect the office of the Presidency, it is a sad day in this country.

For those of us who voted for Barack Obama, did so not because he is a black man, but that his ideals, his policies, his intellect, and his vision for all of Americans, would move this country forward.

I think it is time for the Americans who wish to sweep this irrational hatred away, need to become more vocal. Whenever I read a remark, whenever I see one of these people speak lies, I call or write letters.

The naysayers are in the minority, albeit a loud minority. The rest, We the People, need to remind the loud naysayers it is the 21st century. They need to be dragged, even kicking into it.


bgcarb
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 10:41 pm

I'm guessing you got this bologna from the radical right radio propaganda machine, am I correct?? No logical person would conclude this, so it has to be made up. They want us to just repeat what they tell us. But, we have to think for yourselves. Let's be reasonable, what proof do we have of this?. If there is logical proof, then we can talk about it. If it is just hateful propaganda, then our country is getting close to being communist- like.


Florida Christian
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 10:49 pm

You dumocrats just dont get it!

As Glen Beck explained last night if you commies would even bother to watch his show, in 1974 the draco aliens held a secret meeting at Area 51 with ACORN and hatched plans to create an evil and secret army of marxists, called AMERICORPS.

They will be going door to door disguised as census takers but what they REALLY want to take is our guns and our bibles and turn Grandma into SOYLENT GREEN!!!

How come you libs is so stoopid?


Anonymous
Comment posted August 30, 2009 @ 3:55 am

Shit. You’re right. I keep forgetting that the new season is upon us. When I wrote “last November” I meant two Novembers ago. I got sloppy. I concede the point.

All the same, I did enjoy the game. It was more fun, even in the rain, than most football games I’ve watched. Except at halftime. Freakin’ impossible to get up the stairs and into the concession area. I stood in line with everyone else until I realized the line wasn’t moving. So I went back to my seat. I had really great seats for that one. Third row, 45 yard line.

Your throwback uni’s were interesting. Of course, in the rain and mud there wasn’t much differentiation between the two teams’ jerseys.

Orly Taitz has yet to win a lawsuit. Next she WILL sue the Terminator, my state’s Governor, to force him to run for President and save immigrant white Americans like herself from Obama.


bgcarb
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 11:07 pm

I always ask bloggers for some proof in what they say when they spew radical opinions as fact, but alas, I never get the proof, so I have to conclude it is just more communist-like propaganda.


bgcarb
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 11:18 pm

The reason we can't “just fixed health care” is because it's a big profitable business and they don't want us to. They bankroll many members of Congress, including the Bluedogs. Follow the money and you will usually find your answer.


radicalatheist
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 11:20 pm

If we took your bibles perhaps you would have time to read something that would help to educate you about the signs of paranoia and gullibility.
Religion is the biggest lie ever told, only the most naive, desperate and pathetic believe that crap.


bgcarb
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 11:22 pm

I don't get why people would accept Pres Bush or Sarah Palin's birth certificates as valid, but not Pres Obama, What is the criteria for acepting one and not the other?? Oh yeah, one BC is from a black man and the others are white people. Now I get it.


Priscilla Brown
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 11:32 pm

Please don't reproduce


RELAX
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 11:35 pm

I think it's more pathetic that you have to get on this wall and insult people that don't share your beliefs. Your just as bad as a bible thumping racist conservative. We should be fighting intolerance with tolerance. Grow up and relax.


betsybillet
Comment posted August 30, 2009 @ 12:05 am

hahah, how do people not realize this is a joke?

oh, right, because the actual conspiracy theory out there is equally nuts.


betsybillet
Comment posted August 30, 2009 @ 12:08 am

a “Constitutionalist” is usually a socially-Right-leaning libertarian, as if that makes any sense.


theSTATorg
Comment posted August 30, 2009 @ 12:14 am

The American Taliban needs to be exposed for what it is.

Stop The American Taliban is dedicated to EXPOSING any hypocrite in politics or otherwise that influence any legislation that would take away or limit the rights of American citizens.

http://www.StopTheAmericanTaliban.com


stephenperry
Comment posted August 30, 2009 @ 12:32 am

Awesome, thanks for using the “you dumocrats just dont get it” line, Florida.

I can't believe you could have sat quietly for so long. You let us all down. We had to work extra shifts.

It would go a long way toward making up for it if you'd use “this could all be laid to rest so easily” in a post soon.


Name
Comment posted August 30, 2009 @ 12:46 am

Right on-the Bible is so full of rape,war and incest, anf multiple wives that I certainly wouldn't let my children read it.


bgcarb
Comment posted August 30, 2009 @ 1:24 am

Trent Franks is a radical right racist……racist……racist……racist… racist……racist……racist……racist…


nov42008
Comment posted August 30, 2009 @ 2:13 am

We have a new Founding Father, his name is Barack Obama. The old founding fathers did not consider the world would change and we would get a black president, or the doctor would ask you “who is your insurer”. Name the insurance companies that existed when The Founding Fathers wrote the Constitution?


jacklynd
Comment posted August 30, 2009 @ 2:22 am

There is no chance that I will willingly watch Beck and there is no chance of you finding a gun or bible in my house. Now, if we could figure out a way to take negativity, lies and base human behavior and turn it into Soylent Green we could get rid of 1/2 of all Republican'ts.


bohite
Comment posted August 30, 2009 @ 2:28 am

Why was he afraid of Obama? Did he have any other information that could lead him to believe that this man was or posed a danger to the Nation? Please press this “nice” “patriot” to let us know what in Obama's past or appearance “terrified” him


JimPA
Comment posted August 30, 2009 @ 5:19 am

FL – You and Charlton Heston know the secret of Soylent Green. Charlton Heston is dead. I'd keep quiet on how Soylent Green is made.


oaklynne
Comment posted August 30, 2009 @ 6:37 am

“As Glen Beck explained last night if you commies would even bother to watch his show”

If you actually believe that a clown like Glenn Beck has any answers, you are one pathetic and “stoopid” conservative who reads too many science fiction comic books. Do you hear little voices screaming in your head? Are you getting any help, Mr. Florida Christian Tinhat?


stephenperry
Comment posted August 30, 2009 @ 9:19 am

Come on, oaklynne. Read the whole post. Do you actually think Florida Christian is being sincere, rather than facetious?

aliens? Area 51? Soylent Green?

There are plenty of indications that he's being sarcastic, and that you need to read past the words “Glen Beck.”


stephenperry
Comment posted August 30, 2009 @ 9:23 am

But see, now Florida is in the clear. It used to be the two of them in on the secret, and now Charlton Heston is gone.

“And then there was one.”

Ever see the Simpsons episode about the “Hellfish bonanza?” Grampa tells the story of art he and his WWII buddies stole from Nazis who stole it from the rightful owners. The last surviving member of the group got to keep the art. It came down to Mr. Burns and Grampa when “Asa Phelps” died in the beginning of the episode. Burns tries to kill Grampa before simply stealing the art from him.

Personally, I think Florida killed Charlton Heston. With logistical assistance from ACORN, the Black Panthers, and Obama's network of mainstream media hired goons.


skybar
Comment posted August 30, 2009 @ 1:24 pm

Soylent Green is Republicans! With a sprinkling of Democrats, just to spice things up.


Anonymous
Comment posted August 30, 2009 @ 6:39 pm

DUM@ZZ.

Someone could have really could have benefited from a Government School Education.


kladinvt
Comment posted August 30, 2009 @ 2:54 pm

OK, it's 2009 and we still have an elected official backward and mentally deficient enough to announce that he's afraid of the first African-American president! The ONLY reason for his fear would logically have to be deep inbred racism. So why is this guy in government?


Anonymous
Comment posted August 30, 2009 @ 8:10 pm

Start reading American Lady1NAZ…senior citizens all have Medicare paid by the government. Interment camps…personal army…where are you getting this stuff? Please don’t call yourself a constitutionalist. that is an insult to our Constitution. BTW, highways, social security, healthcare, etc were not in Constitution because it was written over 200 years ago. There was little healthcare then, you got sick, you recovered or died. Just because an issue is not in the constitution doesn’t mean that it is unconstitutional. Go back to school or back to your home planet.


Florida Christian
Comment posted August 30, 2009 @ 3:25 pm

What about Obamas death army? Its called Americorps and its run by ACORN! They are going door to door under cover of the census to take our guns and bibles!

This was all planned in advance in 1976 when Carter had a secret meeting with the aliens at Area 51!!!!

Get a clue Morans!


iconico62
Comment posted August 30, 2009 @ 4:21 pm

Please don't ever, ever use the word Christian in your moniker. It insults anything Christian. Better refer to yourself as a Beckite, reflecting the blind stupidity that is apparent in both your beliefs.
Otherwise, stf up.


wayoutwest
Comment posted August 30, 2009 @ 5:30 pm

ico62, don't get too upset with FC. He is trying to inject a little humor into this thread. We have been countering this afterbirther nonsense for over a month and it just won't die.
They Lost.
We Won.
Get used to it!


Anonymous
Comment posted August 30, 2009 @ 11:01 pm

Don’t feel too bad I am from Indiana. we have out share too.


JimPA
Comment posted August 30, 2009 @ 6:13 pm

“This was all planned in advance in 1976 when Carter had a secret meeting with the aliens at Area 51!!!!”

A “nice patriot” had pictures of this meeting on ARPnet (before the internet) but the pictures disappeared in September 77. They were something you could print using a dot matrix printer using letters. I wish I would of saved them. No, the more I think about it, I glad I never saved them.


JimPA
Comment posted August 30, 2009 @ 6:18 pm

“Personally, I think Florida killed Charlton Heston. With logistical assistance from ACORN, the Black Panthers, and Obama's network of mainstream media hired goons.”

My head is spinning like a top.


qblogger
Comment posted August 30, 2009 @ 6:31 pm

It was a joke. The guy thinks Beck is an idiot. Read the whole post. The blogger is a Progressive who is using sarcasm. The intent was for a “ha ha”.


oaklynne
Comment posted August 30, 2009 @ 8:02 pm

Whoops, my bad. Obviously I've read too many posts from conservatives who sound just like this blogger. Thanks for clarifying.


stephenperry
Comment posted August 30, 2009 @ 9:40 pm

Florida, this is obviously the pride of your new fleet. I don't mean to disparage it, but it's no “666.” That one was a career-maker for you.

Now you can basically phone it in. But don't use the phone. The aliens are listening to it and telling ACORN so that they can NOT mark your door with the blood of the lamb when they do the census to determine who lives and whose property gets redistributed.


stephenperry
Comment posted August 30, 2009 @ 9:41 pm

I wish I could sell the birthers my old printer. It prints Braille in color.


stephenperry
Comment posted August 30, 2009 @ 9:44 pm

Pete, don't you kind of find the non-birthers' hostility toward what they think is birtherism coming from Florida inspiring?

I do.

It's nice to know that people are still annoyed and offended by birthers. Soon birthers will be like assless chaps. Everyone hates them but no one talks about them because no one encounters them anymore except through freak coincidences.

I also like it when I read people calling birthers “dumbass” or “fuckwit.” Or when someone refers to Tuci78 as “test-taker.” Sniffle. It's like having a little plaque on my Obot paidblogger chair that says “stephenperry was here.”


stephenperry
Comment posted August 30, 2009 @ 9:45 pm

No sweat. Florida Christian baits his hooks really well. You're far from the first intelligent person he has fooled, and I doubt you'll be the last. Please keep posting. But train your fire on the real birthers.


stephenperry
Comment posted August 30, 2009 @ 9:46 pm

Republicans? No thanks. I'm limiting my fat intake.

“The Chinese? Those people are all gristle!” –Mr. Burns, The Simpsons


stephenperry
Comment posted August 30, 2009 @ 9:48 pm

Don't worry. Just picture the stability and serenity that is Randwulf's home life. All those imaginary people of various colors and half-colors, holding hands and cussing out Jane Fonda while trying to make a NEW dish out of bananas. It's enough to calm your nerves.


wayoutwest
Comment posted August 31, 2009 @ 12:36 am

Stephen, I think people need to, know the enemy, and keep their sense of humor. With all the craziness around these days it is difficult for some to know which end is up.

We do have a problem with the chattering classes and their defeatism and inability to understand that we won. It's time for people on the left to realize that and get on with acting like the ruling party.

When the repubs were in power the had their ducks in a row and did what they wished.

I guess the dems are a more diverse group and it's more like herding cats.
We don't need the repubs to pass anything and it's a little depressing to watch the left's inability to come together and move the agenda forward.

The left has been out of power so long they forgot what it's like to hold the power of the majority. A lot of arrogance in dealing with the right might be a good thing.

The next month or two will show whether they can get their act together


bobjennings
Comment posted August 31, 2009 @ 12:59 am

Three days? Well, someone must have told him-you will be a loser in court and in life.


stephenperry
Comment posted August 31, 2009 @ 1:09 am

Pete, I totally agree. The left doesn't seem willing to go it alone, even though the voters chose them, knowing that they're the left.

Some of the politicians on the left are still sort of holding a finger to the wind, unable to believe that the storm has passed. When the health care bill finally gets passed, and the economy starts expanding again, probably in the beginning of 2010, then politicians will start floating on Obama's incoming tide again. I think that will buoy their courage.

Until that happens they're afraid of being shipwrecked when Obama's gravity goes away and takes the tide with it.

I don't think much of the politicians on the left who don't have the courage to govern as they see fit, even though they believe doing so would serve the public good.

The assholes on the right govern/governed however they damn well pleased, knowing full well that doing so would be giving themselves and their cronies the gold mine while the American citizen by and large got the shaft.

I'm thinking maybe the next month or two is too short a timeline. 3 to 5 months, in my view. But we're on the same page. Mine just has more cursewords and less inspiring Muhammed Ali quotes than yours does.


stephenperry
Comment posted August 31, 2009 @ 1:28 am

Don't forget senseless and graphic violence. Barnyard animals got burned alive to get God's attention. (and PETA's…) Lotsa people got smited for nothing in particular. People got stoned for any of a myriad of so-called sins without so much as a prescription from a “legitimate doctor.”

Speaking of which, getting stoned is MUCH better now than it was in the Old Testament. Back then it meant having your jealous neighbors kill you with big jagged rocks. Now it means having an excuse for listening to crappy music and eating all the ice cream in the freezer in one night.


redimixer
Comment posted August 31, 2009 @ 1:47 am

I wish somebody would make a move;all I read is I was close but no cigar.


Fran Taylor
Comment posted August 31, 2009 @ 1:51 am

“fighting intolerance with tolerance.”

Are you saying we should tolerate racists? WOW!


basher72
Comment posted August 31, 2009 @ 1:52 am

What stopped him… the truth?


JimPA
Comment posted August 31, 2009 @ 2:23 am

Hey, his 666 got me. Struck a nerve and really pissed me off. FL probably needs to retool the message. Marking your door with the “blood of the lamb” is a good start. Maybe go Old Testament on the libtarts.

His “They are going door to door under cover of the census to take our guns and bibles!” is good but need something extra.


jjfitz
Comment posted August 31, 2009 @ 3:50 am

Truth is such an ugly word to a birther.


jjfitz
Comment posted August 31, 2009 @ 3:56 am

That's why I'm not a paid blogger anymore, when the opportunity for deathsquads came out it had much more pay than 'paid' blogging. Talk about easy work, these whimps don't even fight back. I don't consider it immoral because It was still more love than the insurance companies have brought, Oh wait, they brought this idea too. nevermind


jjfitz
Comment posted August 31, 2009 @ 4:01 am

so right


jjfitz
Comment posted August 31, 2009 @ 4:04 am

To whom are you speaking?


jjfitz
Comment posted August 31, 2009 @ 4:05 am

ahhh. miss the old days.


stephenperry
Comment posted August 31, 2009 @ 4:16 am

LOL jj, it sounds like you miss killing your neighbors with big jagged rocks.

Care to elaborate on how old the “old days” are? Are we talking Old Testament old, or reel-to-reel and 8-track old?


stephenperry
Comment posted August 31, 2009 @ 4:17 am

Priscilla Brown is speaking to the birther she mistook Florida Christian to be.


JohnnyKay
Comment posted August 31, 2009 @ 4:17 am

Off your Vitamin B again, Trent?


jjfitz
Comment posted August 31, 2009 @ 4:22 am

Shhhhh. Obama is black! Or somewhat black, or at least he isnt white.. mostly. But that's enough to get some people 'terrified', as I believe was the congressmen's words. Since most of them don't like telling that story, it manifests in other ways like 'birther' and the 'socialism' ranters, they can't possibly argue the contents of thier character or hearts, so they yell to the high heavens of SOCIALISM or “SHOW US THE BIRTH CIRTIFICATE”… is just any method to defeat the non whole-white POTUS, without asking yourself why his color bothers you.


JohnnyKay
Comment posted August 31, 2009 @ 4:25 am

Dick Cheney told him he'd never be ashamed of him.


jjfitz
Comment posted August 31, 2009 @ 4:28 am

Maybe they where forced to take a shower together in the congressional gym and O'bamma made him feel a bit short?


jjfitz
Comment posted August 31, 2009 @ 4:32 am

Take your stinking paws off me, you damn dirty ape! Madhouse!


jjfitz
Comment posted August 31, 2009 @ 4:38 am

They knew the risks.


jjfitz
Comment posted August 31, 2009 @ 5:00 am

Obama is making cows commit suicide too! I just know it

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/artic…


republicanstupidity
Comment posted August 31, 2009 @ 1:27 pm

YOU ARE A PRIME EXAMPLE OF STUPID ASS!


republicanstupidity
Comment posted August 31, 2009 @ 1:29 pm

BECK?? YOU HITCH YOUR WAGON TO A DRUNK DRUGGIE HIGH SCHOOL DROPOUT WHO DOES NOT EVEN HAVE A HIGH SCHOOL DIPLOMA? A WASHED UP DISC JOCKEY WHO COULD NOT EVEN KEEP A JOB ON TOP 40 RADIO BUT YET YOU BELIEVE HIM?? THAT SHOWS US HOW DAMN STUIPD YOU ARE


stephenperry
Comment posted September 1, 2009 @ 8:35 pm

Wow. Not only is your sarcasm detector set to “off,” but your caps lock is set to “on.” Interesting.


stephenperry
Comment posted September 1, 2009 @ 8:37 pm

Come on, man. You call out someone else for being stupid, when that someone is clearly being facetious.

And not only that, but you do so in CAPSLOCK.

And not only that, but you misspell “stupid” as “stuipd.”

Read things twice before you respond, and read your own posts 3 times before you hit send.

It will save you making a fool of yourself when you're trying to fight the good fight.


stephenperry
Comment posted September 1, 2009 @ 8:40 pm

jj, I think we're going to have to gather all the paid Obot bloggers from this site and pool our money. We will have to buy ourselves some liberal Congressional representatives with actual backbones.

Otherwise, we may never get to see what actual government by liberals looks like, post 1964. We'll just get a bunch of liberal professors who act like substitute teachers and keep asking the class “Is this what Newt Gingrich was teaching you? Where did he leave off? I don't want to get ahead of his lesson plans…”


wayoutwest
Comment posted September 1, 2009 @ 9:32 pm

Stephen, I don't think we have made enough in the last month to cover their hooker bill.
I'm visualising PBHO as the Little Yakazo guy on the Simpson's. Just wait he is going to do something really cool, i hope.


wayoutwest
Comment posted September 1, 2009 @ 9:51 pm

Booger Alert, I found Dr B at it again on the WND Blows The Obama Birth Conspiracy Wide Open thread. I think he is hiding form us but people there are handleing him easily.


JimPA
Comment posted September 1, 2009 @ 9:51 pm

Yea, the blogging isn’t paying what it did in the good old days (4 weeks ago). JJ has me thinking about signing up for the medical death squads. Mostly it is 3rd shift work which I prefer.

Here is the orientation film if you are interested:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grbSQ6O6kbs


JimPA
Comment posted September 1, 2009 @ 10:01 pm

FL doesn't need to retool. I was reading some of his responses and it’s evident he still has game. FL you were right and I was wrong.


JimPA
Comment posted September 1, 2009 @ 10:07 pm

We should be making real money off the birthers. We should be selling them something. White, 1000 thread count, 100 percent cotton with glossy sateen weave sheets? President Obama's Kenyan BC? Publish a “Birthers for Dummies” series? Something.


wayoutwest
Comment posted September 1, 2009 @ 10:07 pm

I can see it now Jim, You in a dark trenchcoat with Maxwell Silver Hammer playing in the background.


JimPA
Comment posted September 1, 2009 @ 10:14 pm

Check out monkey99 posts. He's one of us. Must have a different team leader.


JimPA
Comment posted September 1, 2009 @ 10:39 pm

Pete – Do you know if they supply the dark trenchcoat or do we have to buy one?

Good choice on the background music: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maxwell's_Silver_H…


JimPA
Comment posted September 2, 2009 @ 12:09 am

We’ll sell tee shirts to Republican congressmen/women to wear at their town hals and tea baggers meetings. They'll be Michele Bachmann inspired, 100% heavy weight cotton, union made in the USA tee shirts with “Will slit our wrists before we take government ran health care.” The shirts will be red because once they realize that they have government ran health care, they’ll have to slit our wrists. Unless they pull a Sanford (Gov Mark) and have a different set of rules for themselves.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/01/bachma…
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/24/sanfor…


stephenperry
Comment posted September 2, 2009 @ 7:57 am

A different team leader? Nuts to that. Time to frag an officer.


stephenperry
Comment posted September 2, 2009 @ 8:01 am

These are good ideas, Jim. Especially now that Bachmann has pulled a Putin and started rearing her head over our airspace again.

I thought the nonsense about how, like Palin, Bachmann is just waiting for a signal from God before running for POTUS was going to be the extreme end of her wackiness. But then came the wrist-slitting thing. At least some other people on that thread already urged her to slit down, not across, and deep, not shallow.

I'm glad you came up with some money-makers. I was stuck trying to find a publisher for “Spreading Birther Lies and Primate Thighs: The Petticoat Papers of Randypuppy.” But no publisher wanted to go blind trying to fix all his grammatical errors and typos. Plus one of the publishers I took it to is a big Jane Fonda fan and thus ruled out having anything to do with a Brokewind, I mean Roguewind, I mean Randwulf compilation.


stephenperry
Comment posted September 2, 2009 @ 8:24 am

Good catch, Pete. I just went over and said hello.


stephenperry
Comment posted September 2, 2009 @ 8:26 am

“You have to supply your own knobs.” –Moe Szylak the bartender, to Jimbo, who has just been allowed to join Homer's vigilante group, which beats people senseless with sacks full of doorknobs


stephenperry
Comment posted September 2, 2009 @ 8:30 am

Great reference. I like the Pretzel Wagon episode a lot. It has the mafia music from The Sopranos in it.

Agnes tells Marge “they'll kill ya five times before ya hit the ground” when she describes the Yakuza. I used that line on Tuci78.

I like the part when the franchise fair is going on, and the ladies are trying to decide whether to buy a filafel franchise. They taste some food, and they're enjoying it, and one of them asks “what's in this?”

This swarthy guy pokes his head out the window and mutters something about tabouleh and something I can't discern, and the saleswoman says “That's our chef…Christopher!” And he mutters at her in a foreign language and puts his head back in the window.


stephenperry
Comment posted September 2, 2009 @ 8:36 am

The thing that keeps me from joining the death squads is that I cannot stand people who take forever to make up their damned minds.

All that endless consultation and blather.

It's like going shopping with a woman.

“Do I really want this living will? Aren't people who live to be 100 always cranky and smelly? Maybe I should just end it all right now. But is now a good time to die? What does the government think? What's my life expectancy? Will the surgery cure me? Is there pain involved? Will people come visit me?”

I just want to say “hurry up and make up your mind, will ya? I got other people to suffocate today.”

I'm just not as patient as I used to be.

It's like the doctor who gives Marge breast implants when she goes in for a tummy tuck. She's peppering him with questions, and he puts the anesthesia mask on her while he says “Time is money. Ask the mask.” That's how I'd be.


JimPA
Comment posted September 2, 2009 @ 1:00 pm

Stephen said hello with a rolled up newspaper.


JimPA
Comment posted September 2, 2009 @ 1:05 pm

Don't give on trying to find a publisher for “Spreading Birther Lies and Primate Thighs: The Petticoat Papers of Randypuppy”. About the author is very compelling:

“Are you African-American as you claimed? White, as you claimed? Half-white, as you claimed?

Is your first wife alive, as you claimed? Is she dead, as you claimed?

Is your second wife alive, as you claimed? Is she dead, as you claimed? Is she white, as you claimed? Is she half-white, as you claimed? Is she a beautiful woman of color, as you claimed? Is her name Shamitra, as you claimed?

Did you really serve in the Marines in the 70's, as you claimed?

Are you really 54, as you claimed here? Or 16, as you claimed at Stormfront?”


republicanstupidity
Comment posted September 2, 2009 @ 1:27 pm

I BET SHINY OBJECTS AMAZE THE FUCK OUT OF YOUR STUPID ASS HUH?? GROW A BRAIN FREEK!! SEND BECK BECK YOUR HARD EARNED BURGER KING MONEY DUMBASS


republicanstupidity
Comment posted September 2, 2009 @ 1:29 pm

THATS SO STUPID ASSES SUCH AS YOURSELF CAN READ IDIOT BASTARD IS IT NOT TIME FOR YOU TO WHACK OFF TO GLENN BECK?


JimPA
Comment posted September 2, 2009 @ 6:57 pm

republicanstupidity – Did you see Beck yesterday. I caught a clip on KO. The guy is ready to snap. Looks like he is about to cry.


JimPA
Comment posted September 2, 2009 @ 7:01 pm

JJ said we just would have to load them on the cart. No talking, no saying they didn't get the email. If I have to interact with them, I just work from my Mom's basement.


stephenperry
Comment posted September 2, 2009 @ 7:49 pm

I don't watch Glen Beck. Nor do I misspell “freak” as “freek.” I'm not real fond of CAPSLOCK or Burger King.

But what have you got against shiny objects? Did you see my post about how to catch a raccoon (or a Randwulf) with a ball of crumpled aluminum foil? I'm sure shiny objects are impressive to you.

You couldn't even tell that Florida Christian was being sarcastic.

My sense is that YOU are the dumbass. But I'd be happy to review your 3rd grade progress report and see how you stack up against me. Post it here. You can even use CAPSLOCK.

Congratulations! You're the first ostensible non-birther that I've found annoying.


stephenperry
Comment posted September 2, 2009 @ 7:53 pm

You still don't get that Florida Christian and I are not birthers, do you?

Neither of us would be caught dead watching Beck. But of course, you don't understand that.

You don't even understand how to use an apostrophe. “THATS” okay. You just keep on attacking non-birthers. There aren't really enough birthers around to keep us all amused anyway. It could be time to start culling the weak and stupid from the ranks of non-birthers.

It's a public service. Otherwise you're likely to trade away your mother's trailer for some magic beans.


stephenperry
Comment posted September 2, 2009 @ 7:58 pm

Well I certainly wasn't going to try to say hello in English. Tuci78 doesn't understand language well.

But he understands (or at least fantasizes about) violence.

So I figured I'd use the direct approach.

All in all, I think I was pretty gentle with him, considering what a waste of carbon he is.

Apologies to Randwulf but I really think Tuci78 would be better if he was made entirely of salt.

Oh speaking of Randwulf, have you seen how unhinged he got at me over on the “World Net Daily Blows the Obama Birth Conspiracy Wide Open” thread? I'm about to go have some more fun with him over there.


wayoutwest
Comment posted September 2, 2009 @ 8:46 pm

Stephen, I found another suitable target for the paid Obama brigade. Her name is Sally Hill at the Constituent to Claire McCaskill thread.
Dr B can run but he can't hide and Randwulf is mumbling to himself, there is fresh blood in the water, time for the sharks to attack.


JimPA
Comment posted September 3, 2009 @ 2:18 am

LOL. I want to party with you cowboy.


Steve X
Comment posted September 3, 2009 @ 3:46 am

It sure as hell wasn't common sense.


Steve X
Comment posted September 3, 2009 @ 3:52 am

Oh…I see what you did there.


stephenperry
Comment posted September 4, 2009 @ 2:36 am

When fish and birds in and over the open ocean are looking for a meal, they follow dolphins, who can track prey from long distances.

Pete, you're doing such a good job at finding the birthers that we're going to have to take Flipper out of the Birther Stuffed Animal set that we use to entertain birthers when we need to go to the soda machine, and give it to you as a token of our esteem.

You found Randwulf and Tuci78, and now Sally.

I think Tuci78 only surfaced long enough to get a lungful of air, and then dived deep beneath the surface again. But I'll be waiting to spear ol' Captain Ahab with his own harpoon if he comes back to the surface.


republicanstupidity
Comment posted September 16, 2009 @ 1:16 pm

JUST THE USUAL REDNECK A HIGH SCHOOL DROPOUT FOLLOWING HIGH SCHOOL DROPOUTS THE BLACKS ARE COMMING THE BLACKS ARE COMMING TO TAKE YOUR HOUSE KICK YOUR DOG AND SCREW YOUR WIFE…HERE KITTY KITTY KITTY


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jjfitz
Comment posted October 13, 2009 @ 3:41 am

you still writing new lore Stephen?


stephenperry
Comment posted October 13, 2009 @ 5:26 am

Hey Joe, I haven't been here in about a month. I lost interest in the birthers and the health care discussion seemed to have leveled off.

I read your other post. I'm sorry to hear about the family health concerns, but I am sure the time you spent with family instead of here was well spent.

It's good to hear from you, my friend.


jjfitz
Comment posted October 13, 2009 @ 7:44 pm

Thanks! Good hearing from you. I too got tired of the birthers, coming up with new content for the same tired demands got boring.


stephenperry
Comment posted October 13, 2009 @ 9:10 pm

Yeah, I decided to try to teach my dogs how to use the broom and vacuum cleaner. They learn faster than birthers do, and they're more appreciative when you correct their errors.

Let me know via email when you find a new comment thread or article worth looking at. Or you can just reply to one of my comments here, as I'll see that in my email anyway.

Oh, and you still owe me a Coke, diet or otherwise. Not turning in my team leader badge till I get it, either.


jjfitz
Comment posted November 6, 2009 @ 3:20 am

Coke it is. Can't tell you the last time I had a soda, but sure. Or would you prefer a Black and Tan?

Same here, let me know if you find a cool thread.


stephenperry
Comment posted November 6, 2009 @ 12:08 pm

Good to hear from you, my friend.

When I went to England about 8 years ago to visit this Englishwoman I began a whirlwind romance with, I spent a lot of time with her father, much of it in the pub literally across the street from their house. Being anxious to impress her Dad, I asked if I could buy him a drink, and said “what're you drinking?”

In this great deep voice with a decidedly English accent, her Dad (who looks a lot like Robert Redford, except his hair is white) said “Guinness. I drink nothing else.” I thought that was really cool. But then he said “what are you having?” And I said “Black and Tan. Got to try one of those over here.” And he goes, “well, that has Guinness in it, doesn't it? Close enough. Make it two.” Well, we had quite a few more than two.

I ended the night by calling him a son of a bitch. I didn't remember that. He did. And lucky for me he thought it was funny as hell.

So I'll take a Black and Tan. Or a Jack and Coke. I'm not in the mood to be picky.

So has the birther thing finally died off? I haven't been paying attention. Still not sure whether we're going to have a public option. Things move too slowly. Plus Mad Men is more compelling drama than the daily punditry about this or that bill in this or that committee.


stephenperry
Comment posted November 6, 2009 @ 5:08 pm

Good to hear from you, my friend.

When I went to England about 8 years ago to visit this Englishwoman I began a whirlwind romance with, I spent a lot of time with her father, much of it in the pub literally across the street from their house. Being anxious to impress her Dad, I asked if I could buy him a drink, and said “what're you drinking?”

In this great deep voice with a decidedly English accent, her Dad (who looks a lot like Robert Redford, except his hair is white) said “Guinness. I drink nothing else.” I thought that was really cool. But then he said “what are you having?” And I said “Black and Tan. Got to try one of those over here.” And he goes, “well, that has Guinness in it, doesn't it? Close enough. Make it two.” Well, we had quite a few more than two.

I ended the night by calling him a son of a bitch. I didn't remember that. He did. And lucky for me he thought it was funny as hell.

So I'll take a Black and Tan. Or a Jack and Coke. I'm not in the mood to be picky.

So has the birther thing finally died off? I haven't been paying attention. Still not sure whether we're going to have a public option. Things move too slowly. Plus Mad Men is more compelling drama than the daily punditry about this or that bill in this or that committee.


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