Obtained: The CIA Documents Dick Cheney Says Vindicate Torture

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Monday, August 24, 2009 at 5:41 pm

We’ve obtained and scanned in the two CIA documents that former Vice President Dick Cheney claims justify his longstanding arguments that torture was an effective interrogation and counterterrorism tool. As you read them, consider this post as well.

Here they are, after the jump:

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Pingback posted August 24, 2009 @ 9:45 pm

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johnhkennedy
Comment posted August 24, 2009 @ 11:42 pm

Keep up the pressure for multiple and unrestrained investigations of all of those suspected of torturing or conspiring to torture during the Bush-Cheney Administration.

THIS INCLUDE BUSH, CHENEY, RUMSFELD, and their lawyers.

KEEP ASKING ALL POLITICIANS AT ALL PUBLIC EVENTS

“WHY DO YOU SUPPORT TORTURE?” If they aren't actively calling for enforcement of our Federal Torture Laws, They DO Support Torture.

SIGN THE PETITIONS
Demanding
both a Commission of Inquiry
and a Special Prosecutor
For All Their Crimes
at ANGRYVOTERS.ORG

http://ANGRYVOTERS.ORG

Only Prosecution Stops Torture!
Only Prosecution Stops Violations of Our Constitution and Rule Of Law.
.


strangely_enough
Comment posted August 24, 2009 @ 11:53 pm

As Ackerman noted, the liberal admixture of “interrogators” and “debriefers” is conveniently nebulous. The level of redaction does not help much, either.


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Pingback posted August 25, 2009 @ 9:24 am

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Pingback posted August 25, 2009 @ 4:17 pm

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Pingback posted August 25, 2009 @ 8:57 pm

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Pingback posted August 26, 2009 @ 2:35 am

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Pingback posted August 27, 2009 @ 8:59 am

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NorwegianShooter
Comment posted August 27, 2009 @ 4:52 pm

Both of these documents appear to be scanned wrong. Both documents jump to page 7 after the title page. 1-6 is at the end of the document. Did anybody actually look at these?


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Pingback posted August 27, 2009 @ 8:42 pm

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anon
Comment posted August 28, 2009 @ 6:54 pm

Don't you think you could have posted a scanned pdf of the papers instead of that rediculous SCRIBD service which makes it impossible to enlarge the type enough to read while actually keeping the whole width of the page visible?

Why does ANYONE upload to Scribd.
It's universally horrible.

Everyone hates reading from it.


anon
Comment posted August 28, 2009 @ 7:17 pm

What is extremely significant that no one has talked about what page seven of the second document window says (page seven displays first for some reason so it is the first page you see.)

It says that KSM planned the operation on Sept 11 and KSM had not even been a member of Al Quaeda. (if you read the reports on KSM that have come out he was a disgruntled student who had attended college in America in North Carolina and had been treated badly then including having his shoes thrown in the lake when he took them off to worship at the mosque. (thanks North Carolina bullies for prompting 9/11)

Ossama bin Laden didn't think of 9/11 or conceive it or plan the attack against the USA until KSM came along and ossama refused to do it the first time it was presented to him and only agreed to a scaled down version after changing his mind in 1999.

So really it was KSM who caused 9/11 primarily . I wonder if Ossama had ANY plans to attack the US at all before KSM came along or if the whole thing was simply a result of a kid who was bullied in college in the USA and therefore hated America and wanted revenge.


anon
Comment posted August 28, 2009 @ 7:29 pm

Funny. Page 6 of the document which is page 12 in the display confirms that KSM said he had bad experiences in the North Carolina and felt the USA was racist becuase of it and that fueled his terrorism.

So red state rednecks prompted KSM to Target the USA on 9/11.

Too funny and sad.


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Pingback posted August 31, 2009 @ 8:17 pm

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troutbum
Comment posted September 2, 2009 @ 2:36 pm

“Thanks North Carolina bullies for prompting 9/11″?!?!?!?

Are you serious? “Oh, I was bullied in school so I'm going to plan an attack on a whole nation”. Give me just a small break.

You seem to forget about the attacks on the Cole, the attacks on those very same twin tower buildings a few years earlier, our embassy, etc. Did THOSE happen because someone was insensitive in North Carolina?

Attempting to shift the blame to America because KSM didn't like what someone else did one time at band camp speaks volumes about your view of reality.

You have no idea what the details of the circumstances were yet you're more than ready to lay blame on us. By all means, take the word of a guy who planned the deaths of 3,000 Americans that he 'was bullied' and somehow that was the root cause of this situation.

Idiot.


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Pingback posted September 3, 2009 @ 3:10 pm

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Pingback posted September 7, 2009 @ 5:43 pm

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angryamerican
Comment posted September 12, 2009 @ 5:29 pm

can't even read this shit cause they edited too much of it. cia is such a crock of shit


thec
Comment posted September 18, 2009 @ 6:47 pm

Hey ” anon 2 weeks ago “….research is your friend,…”North Carolina” went Blue,… you libs said Israel was the reason for 9/11? You libtards are a joke.


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